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A bunch of EN vtubers completely destroyed their reputation and their fanbase for two people who have now graduated all while one of the best EN gens in history have made their mark.

>> No.56861792

>>56861127
Whores like Ame and Kronii should graduate along the two homos

>> No.56863207

Honk honk

>> No.56863663

>>56861792
They really should. There is no shame in graduating after a few years of being an idol.

>> No.56863765

>>56863663
>unfortunately, idol culture is a thing

>> No.56863830

>>56861127
>pic unrelated

>> No.56863868

I see hoomans are still memoryholing her StarsJP collab.

>> No.56864202

>>56863868
it's ok when it's JP

>> No.56864300

>>56864202
more like: it's okay when it's JP and the girl in question doesn't speak a speck of Japanese

>> No.56864492

Mori deserved it though.

>> No.56864566

>how does this situation affect me, a number obsessed faggot?

Are you still upset to this day that Cover burned all their China money?

>> No.56864740

>>56861792
No now is the time to strengthen bonds and bring the back into the fold. They made a mistake, and now will surely never do it again. They've been broken completely and utterly. Now is the time to rebuild them.

>> No.56865705

>>56864740
whores dont like being told what to do. they would jump off a cliff if you told them not to

>> No.56865711

>>56861127
If mentioning a man's name "destroys your fanbase" you never had a fanbase to begin with. What you had was a collection of mentally ill retards jacking off to you and wouldn't care even if you died on stream. They'd just find a new PNG to cum to.

>> No.56865896

>>56861792
Playing a video game with people make you a whore? Times sure have changed. Oh wait no, you have downs syndrome.

>> No.56865934

>>56865711
Seethe harder homobeggar

>> No.56866049

A bummer, I guess.

>> No.56866059

>>56861792
They cant graduate ame because shes the janitor

>> No.56866108

>>56861127
Is it not better to know their true natural and get out?

>> No.56866176

>>56861127
>destroyed their reputation
only in your deranged paradigm

>> No.56867531 [DELETED] 

>>56861792
FPBP

>> No.56868367

I know this is a low effort bait thread but there's something I'm genuinely confused about wrt unicorns. You want your chuubas to never collab with males, right? So from a strategy point of view, you want to create incentives such that catering to unicorns is more attractive than not catering to unicorns. I've seen the argument that unicorns superchat way more (don't know the actual numbers), which is the carrot. The stick is supposed to be that you anti and leave the chuuba if they step out of line.
The problem is...what do those incentives select for? Chuubas that either: avoid GFE/unicorns like the plague, or chuubas that do GFE until they're popular enough that pandering to normies might be more profitable (since you're literally selecting for chuubas that value money more than usual). Corpo vtubers are popular enough that anti-ing them is just disincentivizing them from pandering to you, which seems counterproductive. Wouldn't a better use to time would be to go all-in on grooming 0-2 views?

>> No.56868708

>>56868367
Anon here a strange fact you forgot, most unicorn don't anti their previous oshi, yes there is one or two retard around there but they are the exeption.
What "unicorn" do? they just silently leave and go to the next place.
Most of the "anti" action of unicorn do is thrashing the male that goes around, basicaly leaving their oshi totaly out of the issue, and live rent free in homobeggar head and those will anti the girls anyway because they "pander to the incel".
"Unicorn" don't need to do much when their oposant are pretty much showing the amount of twitter brainrots they have on a daily basis.

>> No.56868728 [DELETED] 

>>56866059
It's easy to fire a janitor, what do you mean?

>> No.56868874

>>56868708
We should bring back gachikoi

>> No.56869131

>>56865705
This, they're rotten apples, there's nothing to fix or salvage there.

>> No.56869206

>>56861792
This. Just cause those 2 Homos are gone doesn't mean I forgive them.

>> No.56869269

>>56861127
I'll reiterate the point i made when tempiss debuted : what is the point of this shit? I totaly now expect tempiss to have disapear within the next year.

>> No.56869332

>>56868367
I'm a quiet unicorn. I'll watch my oshi but if she collabs with a guy, I'll tune out and hope she's not the next time i watch her.

>> No.56869407

>>56868708
Doesn't that just mean the stick is even weaker? It just seems obvious to me that you'll only get reliably unicorn-friendly chuubas if they're: extremely menhera, or small enough that they need to do GFE to pay the bills.

>> No.56869439

>>56865711
Thank you for describing vtuber fanbases and why they are exactly the kind of people to shower these girls with money in the first place.

>> No.56869458

>>56869332
We're gachikois.

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>>56861127
>completely destroyed their reputation
I wish that was true but Kronii pulled like 12k playing Holocure yesterday. She had way more viewers than anyone in Advent.

>> No.56869539

>>56861792
Kroni had their dicks like every week. Cant compare her to ame

>> No.56869598

>>56865711
you're too normal and reasonable for /vt/
lurk more and develop brain damage or gtfo

>> No.56869627 [DELETED] 

>>56869539
Ame had dick in her 6 times in only a month and told her audience to eat shit.

>> No.56869643

>>56865711
That's exactly what they signed for. And if they didn't know that, that's on them. And if YOU don't know that, then you're just as much of a lost cause.

>> No.56869651

>>56868708
This

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>>56861792
>>56863663
>>56865705
>>56866059
>>56868728
>>56869206
>>56869627
>>56869643

>> No.56870666

>>56864566
And that's a good thing. NijiEN can freeze in hell

>> No.56870723

>>56861127
Correct and based. Assuming you're talking about Advent, that is.

>> No.56870752

>>56861127
mumei is pure sex

>> No.56870783

>>56861792
FPBP

>> No.56870987

>>56861127
whores are gonna whore
>>56861792
fpbp

>> No.56871124

>>56865711
Shit like this is why the matriarchy and female only zones will never flourish. Women inherently want to be around men.

>> No.56871218

>>56871124
South Korea.

>> No.56871351 [DELETED] 

>>56871124
>Women want to be around men
Which is normal. Kronii and Ame were merely following God's intentions

>> No.56871523

>>56869489
Why fucking lie faggot kronii got 10k biboo got 12k playing elden ring

>> No.56872276

>>56868367
For whom has ditching the unicorn audience actually paid out - growthwise?

>> No.56872452 [DELETED] 

>>56872276
Suisei is the only one

>> No.56872944

>>56872452
Thats an extreme case because Suisei has her music to fall back too. I know it might sound crazy to compare Mori to Suisei but she has something similar with her own music. Mori can be a 2k ccv with zero supas but can post one song that does 3 millions and gets on top of the charts for a week and she's golden. The problem are the Kroniis and Ames that have nothing else but streaming going for them. Right now Ame has fallen to barely scrapping by, complaining about the price of ubereats when she used to order out every day. If you know you don't have that safety net then it's absolutely stupid to risk it all to "own da incelz". And I really can't feel sorry for them.

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>>56868367
anon, normies are not the most profitable nor the most loyal, solid fanbase you think they are. They mostly drop the vtuber or watch a stream or two. That's all.
Who buys vtuber merch? Unicorns.
Who watches more vtuber content than anyone? Unicorns.
Who built this hobby as the main clients? Unicorns.

>> No.56873507

>>56872944
Even Suisei is deceptively careful with controlling her public appearances with guys. I don't think she's ever done a single gaming stream with any holostar. It's all talk shows or music. In a sense, there are zero 'casual' streams, there's always an agenda.

>> No.56874037

>>56868367
This is why I laugh at anyone blaming idol culture. What we have in vtubing is a new culture still evolving and absorbing input from a relatively new community. There are some elements from idol culture, but they don't fit exactly into this new dynamic along with the EN audience attempting to emulate what they see and that's why you have this kind of drama.
Are streams intended to be shared intimacy with viewers or strictly a business product? If some are or aren't, how can you tell? Before streaming itself became a business, streams with your idol were like a private time.
Is the OW stream like a fan event except with men sitting next to their idols (extremely abnormal), or it is more like a TV variety show where the girls are just guests and men are there, but in a strictly professional sense (perfectly normal)?
>chuubas that do GFE until they're popular enough that pandering to normies might be more profitable
Yes, this is what happens in the idol industry. Most girls see being an idol as a stepping stone. They build up some fame and networking connections while being an idol and not having a boyfriend.
Once they are ready to move on with their career or get a boyfriend, they graduate and amicably separate from their unicorn fans with a heartfelt teary sendoff.
This doesn't happen in vtubing because there is no further career to move into, such as acting or singing.

>> No.56874040

>>56865711
DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE UNLOVED MENTALLY ILL THEN

>> No.56874726

>>56861792
Nah, Kronii and Ame seem to just follow the direction of the branch. They've never tried to bring in ecelebs or do any of that shit, they (along with many idiots in the fanbase) seemed to genuinely believe in the coworkers cope and that they're all the same, even though that clearly was shown not to be the case considering that the separation proved crucial in avoiding shitstorms. Their attitude seems pretty neutral (neither favoring idol nor eceleb/twitch trash), not like the 'I want to change da culture' type, it seems like they'll just go along with the standing rules. So as long as a proper system is in place, there should be no issues. Unfortunately, I don't think that's something I feel like I can count on but...yeah.

>> No.56875593

>>56865896
No, you're the retard with downs syndrome. A non virgin woman interacting with men any way whatsoever makes her a whore. Fuck off to nijishitji if you don't like it, cuck

>> No.56875718

>Best En gens in history.
>Already dipping to below 10k live viewers before the month is even up.
???
That doesn't compute.

>> No.56876114

>>56868708
>pretends to not see the whore screaming posts

>> No.56876341

>>56871218
Really fucking issued nation where half of the population seethes about men while also being smug about their power and the other seethes back.

>> No.56876510

>>56875593
heh.

>> No.56876596

>>56875593
Then you can say every holo girl is a whore since they interacted with Yagoo one way or another

>> No.56877982

>>56876596
Yagoo can't fuck the Hologirls

>> No.56878118

>>56869407
IDK, what is the amount of ex-stars that are found dead because they aren't as popular as they were once. To hit closer to home, who would fell honnestly surprised if michael cat or vox are found dead in their bathtub tommorrow? I'll answer, no one who is mature engouht.
This is the stick. Also know that unicorn during peacefull time are the one who generate second-handed hype, so when you lose them it's irrecoverable. The people who chassed them will soon find you boring due to the community dying, and you are left with nothing. And no matter how much money you have you will never taste the crow cheering on you ever again.
Is it a good enought stick for you?

>> No.56878224

>>56861792
Kronii should graduate, as for Ame, I'm not too sure

>> No.56878243

>>56861127
Kek

>> No.56878552

>>56874037
Anon you're too intelligent to be on /vt/, please lurk moar and be dumber.

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