/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56860057
that's a fucking orc retard

>>56860057
Now that there's no more need for jealousy and shitposting:
What did he do and why did he do it?

>>56860479
30-something year old perpetual independent NEET who don't need no mane-chan Dimitri Jap holding him down

>>56860479
bc he´s retarded

a post so dumb and racist it isn't even aware that it's racist, impressive

So when is his return stream?

>>56860479
He's what happens if you take some random faggot from here and get him to join hololive.

>>56860964
me during fuwamoco's jp stream...

>>56860479
he RAPED aqua in japan

Imagine ruining your own dream job. Like, what is there to look forward to after that?

>>56860479
> realized he and magni were holostars en, the others barely worth their time investment
> tried negotiating for better terms when the contract was up for renewal
> convinced magni the best move was to do so united
> fell flat on his face while overestimating how much leverage they had to renegotiate
> realized he dun goofed
> got a counteroffer which was just his own contract again
> threw a hissyfit and called his manager a chinkoid nigger
> raped nodoka on the way out of the office
> now moping angrily in his bedroom pining for a spear he didn't really buy

>>56861357
menhera won

>>56860057
No way he can comeback as that. His chat would be spammed with Holo-related questions and hate.

>>56861245
Qrd

Should have joined nijisanji instead of homostars

>>56861028
but the pec guy seems alright

>>56860057
No. It's only ogreginning

>>56861532
qrd: I made it up but it's 100% true

>>56860479
most likely couldn't handle the off stream side of the job, too much stuff and couldn't keep up, when the moment of renewing the contract presented, he just decline it

>>56860057
I hope he necks himself next
Good riddance

>>56860057
Who?

>>56861357
It's not him. It's Altare who ruined his dream job.

>>56860479
He didn't do anything.
Contract ended in July.
They didn't like the contract.
They spent the next month revising a new one/renegotiating and it wasn't good enough so they quit.

>>56863162
Lol fuck the fans right? I cant afford my Lambo!

honestly no idea about this one. the other one is pretty simple though, he's bigger on his RM than on his side gig. it's only natural for him to focus on the RM if he didn't like the supposed renewal. pretty shitty for them and cover to delay this kind of shit but i guess there were things happening and they were worried it might sour the hype. oh well, corpos be corpos.

>>56861439
Yeah, the first part is my take as well. They didn't realize JP companies don't fuck around.

>>56863302
This is such a retarded and tone deaf take.

>>56863302
NTA, but its also possible the stars get peanuts compared to the girls in regards to revenue splits.

>>56860451
fpbp

>>56863162
Same thing happened to Sana, but she got a graduation stream. They probably went on a "strike" and forced Cover's hand. Idiots.

>>56863302
Should mcdonalds employees think of the poor, poor customers before they fuck off to find something better?

>>56863490
>making up rrats just to make the homos look better
Yeah, and I'm sure Yagoo personally molested them, unlike the girls. After all, they had to have a good reason to quit, being such responsible and mature adults.

>>56860479
He's an IT fag. Anyone who's ever had to interact with those people knows how they are.

>>56863538
Sana knew she was quitting long before her contract was up, so she could plan ahead and have a graduation stream on her last day.
Magni and Vesper were in middle of negotiation while their contract were expired. No active contract = no graduation stream.

>>56863538
Sana got a month long goodbye.

>>56863624
>making up rrats just to make the homos look better
>You did the same thing to make them look worse
Yeah, alright retard, neither of us know what happened
/thread

>>56861245
to be fair she's asking for it

>>56863707
W-wait i work in IT, I try to be pretty nice whats wrong with me?

>>56863917
You're autistic and you smell

>>56863457
>he's bigger on his RM than on his side gig
Magni got better ccv than his RM.

>>56863917
you're not nice to look at or interact with

>>56863731
Exactly, they were fucking around way too close to the expiry date. If they wanted a better contract they should have negotiated earlier, but nooo, they just had to get new models so they could have more (perceived) leverage through sunk cost.

>>56863734
Yes, because while she was lazy and stupid, at least she wasn't dumb enough to try and go on a strike to get a better contract. She wanted out so she got out.

>>56863604
>comparing streaming to being a fucking wagie
stfu leffen

>>56863917
You gotta admit that a lot of people in IT are autistic. Not all of us are, but there's at least a couple in every department and they're enough to make everyone else seem bad by association.

>>56860057
what do you expect from /wvt/

>>56863707
What does being a furry have to do with it?

>>56864051
not just talking about ccv. his RM is getting invited to cons and shit. decently known in the twitch community too. and to that note, i think he kinda wanted to bring that community in but cover put a stop to it at some point. those collabs just fucking stopped.

>>56861749
QRD?

>>56864051
His RM youtube account has 800k subs. Combine that with a comfy twitch ccv and it's probably a better time investment to build his own portfolio instead of someone else's.

>>56864945
His RM barely pulled 400smth average viewers on a good day before he was suspended and a good amount of that viewership came from people frequenting doxxsites, aware that he was Magni.
Starting from a bit before the suspension he actively started to make more and more refs to his Magni persona and more and more people flocked as they became aware of it.
Oh yea and he also dropped merch for his RM today of all days.
Let's be real, he just used Stars as a stepping stone, whether or not that was his intention from the start, who fucking knows. But he definitely saw an opportunity to siphon that audience towards his RM and jumped on it. It's definitely kinda scummy.

>>56864009
True

>>56864595
It doesn't even have to be that Cover put a stop to it but that they make it difficult to collab with outsiders.
When it comes to random entitled twitchtards they can't handle having to check up on and agree to certain things because they hate professionalism.

>>56861028
Axelbros…

There's a lesson to be learned here, and that lesson is don't accept a model drawn by pako.

>>56865799
>His RM barely pulled 400smth average viewers
>/vt/ doesn't realize you can make money on youtube in other ways than straight CCV

>>56865799
>Its scummy to want your fans to know you VA'd a character
You would get along with all the film and videogame publishers who don't want to put people in credits. Now tell me anon does this apply to the women and why can't people use work they participated in as stepping stones for future work?

>>56863917
You are here. Do I need to say more

>>56865951
Axel got Zeta and Nodoka pussy and Altare got Kobo cunny
It's only the two incels who quit

I love you Randissimo.

>>56866420
I'm sure >>56865799 is very upset at Coco getting into a Yakuza game, right anon?

>>56866716
Hope Axel is graduating next

His tweet count just dropped by two.
Either he's active, or someone he retweeted deleted their posts.

>>56865799
>suspended
He wasn't suspended

>>56865799
This

>>56867099
Yes. We got stuck with a dried up hag instead of a cute girl.

>>56860057
Reaper hands definitely typed this.

>>56862994
Sing it sister, Vesper is never the one at fault!

>>56864595
Then why'd he join Hololive if he had such a great youtube and twitter following? The only reason is to join for clout.

>>56863917
stephen king wrote a book about your kind. you are evil.

>>56867732
Yes.

>>56863917
You guys are nice but you're no frontman material, your autism can only take you so far

>>56864935
He's an aspie
Just like vesper but they seems to take the opposite approach, shinri sees vt anti-male statement as a warning, whereas vesper sees it as an offensive statement and try to prove them (or us?) wrong (which backfired)

>>56868209
No he isnt. You’re confusing him with lex. He was orbited by /wvt/ vtubers because he couldn’t say no to a collab like Koopa.

>>56867582
>hag
Thats the best part faggot

>>56865799
This is so clear yet people refuse to accept this, Kek
Retards don't know how youtube works, having tons of dead subs is not impressive and nobody was really interested in his persona before (the most important thing), just a boring non attractive guy
At least people are curious now, good for him I guess

>>56868311
oh, lex is /vwt/ chuuba?
although nothing wrong if you assume that he also came to /asp/ aswell.

also, unrelated but it's kinda funny how /here/tuber (especially the male ones) can end up in two different spectrums with no inbetweens. one can end up as a retarded schizo like Vesper and Enna, whereas the other can end as a safe, forgettable, barely there chuuba like Shinri.

>>56861439
Nice fiction. I reject it and substitute my own:

>The plan was always for Magni and Ves to stay for a year then leave
>They were in Holo to attract a wider audience for their original channels/brands
>They sifted out the homo "unicorns" and other such filth by deliberately being as antagonistic and unapologetically based as possible at all opportunities
>The plan succeeded pretty well. Job done partner, time to go home
>Exit stage left
>Drive to the most distant lake for the fishing trip of the decade before their triumphant return in their old identities

Hololive got pumped and dumped by two absolute gigachads

>>56868719
>>56865799
Don't forget he deletes videos that underperform to make it seem like every video he uploads is a success.

>>56860479
The very first thing he talked about after debut was him having a menhera breakdown and quitting his comfy overpaid IT job. Why are you surprised he did it again?
The dude is a manchild.

>>56868032
stephen king is evil

>>56861357
Yeah I don't get it either, he seemed so fucking enthusiastic about it from the start I'm not sure what changed other than genuine menhera, or if the pay was THAT bad.

>>56864051
Other anons already told you why CCV isn't the only thing that brings in money but it will certainly increase after this.

>>56860479
Cause he is a retard no seriously he is a retard leaving an easy job and the perfect work for him yet ruining it like an imbecile.

>>56860057
Randon's design was miles better than Vesper's, even after Pako's redesign.

>>56860057
who the fuck is this

I know you’re here you menhera faggot
If I ever see you in your 2view shit channel ever again I’ll make sure you crawl back to your wage cage
You will never stream shit ever again
Fuck you for ruining everything

>>56870197
I'm going to shit on his channel as well to be honest i bet he convinced Magni to be a retard like him.

>>56869491
Really? I thought it was fishy that he had such a high sub and view count but not as many videos as I thought he would have.

>>56869211
Lex was embroiled in the drama surrounding the discord made from /asp/ it was a whole thing, but yeah you can see /asp/ faces in his recommended channels on twitch.

>>56870144
Randon is a fairly good design, buffed by the fact there aren't any other orc tubers out there. Vesper 1.0 I thought was good, Vesper 2.0 was cringe because it felt like a insecure person's redesign of V1.0.

>>56870632
Yes.

>>56860451
First post, best post.

>>56870197
Now Kronii...people should be allowed to do whatever jobs they want. There are plenty of other boys in Tempus you can collab with now. Put the gun away Kronester.

>>56870153
Vesper since he got YABBA DABBA DOOED out of hololive

>>56870358
Magni actually has a more successful roommate to jump ship to. Vesper was nothing but a 2view orc.

>>56869854
1. He's mentally incapable because muh anxiety
2. He's given up early and the only reason he's stayed this long was because he thought the interaction with the girls was enough, but he was then cockblocked by the management, therefore didn't see a reason to stay (both don't have to be mutually exclusive)

>>56860057
It just doesnt make sense, just yesterday sisters assured me they would graduate in two more weeks.

>>56869464
Factual and straight, I hope to find them on my friday mornings

>>56860057
>This is the best /wvt/ had to offer
This god forsaken cesspit should die already

>>56871398
This is the kinda grude post I can get behind. Made me laugh.

>>56861357
Guess the fucker just stopped dreaming.

>>56869464
I'd believe it if vesper was out capitalizing, but he's been radio silent, probably breaking down.

>>56861357
guess he'll be going back to being a best buy/geek squad wageslave

>>56860451
orcwari da

>>56872437
kek

>>56870808
Yeah never understood why anyone thought 2.0 was a good idea. Honestly 1.0 would have been fine into perpetuity.

>>56871700
Same. Nothing like a good stream with the bois to start the shitty day off right. Any bets on when Randon will return?

>>56860479
IT guys are power mad. They like to create rules. They aren't fond of following them.

>>56872377
>breaking down

Unlikely. He's probably too busy shitposting on /here/ and /elsewhere/ and playing FTL for the billionth time. He's a mystic-type, no attachments, no commitments, just pure passion and wanderer syndrome. He'll come back when he does, and most of those he picked up will be waiting for him when that happens

>>56861357
Turns out your dream job sucks if it doesn't pay well

>>56872841
>Any bets on when Randon will return?
Hes been radio silent.
I question if he will ever come back.
I initially thought that maybe he would just start showing up in Magnis RM shit, but I think he's too menhara/paranoid to do that.
I legit dont think we will ever hear from him again.

>>56873055
shut up vesper

>>56873120
legitimately they should do a wellness check on the guy

>>56860479
middle aged man who never had shit going for him gets a crumb of attention from girls half his age and he goes mad

>>56873216
Magni's RM has brought him up a couple times. He's alive and playing BG3 and that's about all we know.

>>56861357
Now I wonder exactly what the fuck they make them do outside of streaming. Clerical work?

>>56860479
I still see no evidence that proves the "Vesper cheated with Magni's gf" rrat wrong. They had an irreconcilable falling out, and both left. Everything was a bit too abrupt for just being contract negotiations. They would have had time to do a graduation stream like Sana if that was the case.

>>56860451
That sums it all up

>>56873267
He's just like me fr fr

>>56863917
IT guys don't get out of their social comfort zones enough to talk to people, so they aren't as experienced in social interactions and thus are generally hard to get along with
it's just a common stereotype and might not even apply to you, so nothing against you btw

>>56873424
Since they were Stars English, I'd say they had the smallest workload out of all the branches. The only things I can think of is signing random merch and making thumbnails.

>>56873055
thing is, the people who do want to build their house and shack up are, like every other corpo vtuber, staring down the barrel of graduation at the end of their run.
It's smart to just rip the band-aid early and ditch before you're entrenched in something you dont like. Any oldfag with a job has seen it happen or even done it themselves.
The absolute inability to springboard is going to be the biggest limiter on recruitment in the long run. You can go far with corp, but you better not dream of going much farther than that.

UH
UH
UH
UH

GOOD MORNING

>>56860057
stop shilling yourself

>>56860057
>turns into a Vampire to seduce Kronii
>turns back to an orc to seduce Mori
I kneel

>>56870197
You do know you can still contact him outside of cover, right Kronii?

>>56860057
What's Magni roommate account? I know about ogre but not magni

>>56865799
I knew he was a fucking fraud from his day one stream

>>56875097

>>56870197
Kronii calm down

>>56862701
Why bother getting the new model if he was just going to decline?

>>56872437
kek

>>56876164
getting those made can take 6 months to a year, renewal probably wasnt even a consideration when he comitted to the model.

>>56869464
>Cope

>>56870066
This. Even Holostar is far easier than live. They rarely doing 3D stuff, and they even make less cover songs.

>>56863490
>Star
>Smaller audience than live
>Thus smaller akasupa count and merch sales
Of course their income is smaller you idiot. This is like how Women football are bitching about lower pay than Men football.

>>56869854
I think he just can't handle it.
Remember his deleted drunken stream in Japan?
Completely unhinged and slurring around and to be honest it's more annoying than fun.
Dude is a powder keg ready to explode.

>>56873068
Truth. Learned that the hard way.

>>56881579
that stream eventually got archived as membership content, but god. what a fucking night. dude was completey gone

>>56865799
I prefer his older streams when he's just alone, talking to the audience.
Now he made a whole classroom (obviously from his Magni income) and make skits thinking he's the next SNL
DESU I like his old format better. This new version is shit. Heavily scripted content can get boring pretty fast.

>>56867882
>The only reason is to join for clout.
Pretty much, yes.

>>56873055
>mystic-type
sister what are you on about

>>56866194
rumao I swear Pako is going to read one of these with his limited english and felt even worse than the ones he already read on japanese, poor dude didn't deserve any of this, specially with how much he celebrates streams.

>>56865799
>400 ccv
>bad
thats a comfy full time job

>>56860057
Nah it's only beginning. He's back and already posting.

>>56861613
both have shitty contract perameters....

>>56873055
how can you type this and not feel embarrassed?

>>56861357
>dream job
>homos
roru
it has every drawback of being a big corpo chuuba without any of the benefits, complete opposite of Hololive

>>56881179
>live
go back

Most vesties won't watch randon because he doesn't keep his model, sad to say. Corpo fans are the most superficial of them all and on top of that he's male so it's GG. I guarantee his audience will just latch onto the remaining holostars instead.

>>56870197
Kronii WTF show some restrain sister.

>>56895558
I know I will. He was entertaining.

>>56860985
I'm hoping he's sensible enough to wait for 31 Aug. Don't want Jap corpo coming after him for some fabricated shit and abuse of fine print.

Looking back at what he hasn't privated plus clips, he seems so much happier as Indie. Dude was chafing under so much corpo regulation.

>>56869854
It was probably pay. Cover pays their talents in yen which is fucking falling in this economy.

>>56895558
Vesper had one of the ugliest male VTuber models ever created, and it already filtered women who were just looking for a hot guy to get off to. Pretty much his entire audience was there because they liked him.

>>56896652
Yeah I'm thinking September 1st he puts something up on his channel.

>>56895558
i will in fact watch more of him because he wont be slowed down by corpo bullshit and le heckin tempura unity

>>56860057
MAKE THE NEXT THREAD /ORK/ OR IM GOING TO MOSLEST YOU OP

>>56860057
>He is expcting a good model avatar from one of the top vtuber agency then he got the most ugly looking-like-free-model from some sketchy website.
>commissioned a new well made avatar but the management forbid him to use it.

At least with these 2 gone at least Tempus HQ is officially dead in the water. Vanguard doesn't have much life in it beyond Bettel. Either way, they're all going to be on a shorter leash.

>>56860057
>He is expcting a good model avatar from one of the top vtuber agency then he got the most ugly looking-like-free-model from some sketchy website.
>commissioned a new well made avatar but the management forbid him to use it.

>>56892732
Hololive not liver you moron

>>56873120
>I legit dont think we will ever hear from him again.
Respond to his spear.

>>56868032
>stephen king wrote a book about your kind. you are evil.
That doesn't mean much coming from Stephen King I've seen his twitter.

>>56895558
Oh my good can you stop playing the victim already
keep begging if you want, people will watch him out of curiosity and this drama with boost his popularity
happy for that leech, but he'll become a 3-view within a month. he's not that entertaining and he's a liar

>>56869854
Not everyone works well in the corpo ecosystem.
And there's really no way to tell for sure until you've done it.

Of course he was excited at first. Who wouldn't be? But then the reality sets in and if it isn't for you, then it isn't for you.

>>56898116
So their RM are friend?
I knew Magni convinced Vesper to quit, fucking cunt ruined everything.

>>56868032
>Stephen King
>Good
Do you even see his twitter content?
Dude is part of the problem

>>56895558
>he believes vesties actually watched tempus
Rumao
he will def lose an audience without the corpo branding but vesties arent moving on to the other boys. theyre just gonna go back to the girls

>>56875626
magni is black?

>>56898116
kek that arthur pfp

>>56896857
based

>>56896857
thank fuck. i have my chill orc ojisan back again without the singing idol journey bullshit. idol journeys are for cute girls only.

Turns out holobronies only care about the holo brand than the actual talents. Connor was right.

>>56897364
Bettel isnt even making Vesper at his peak numbers. its legit over unless they seriously band together and stop infighting over stupid shit

>>56899465
The only other Star I would have watch was Magni but he was just ok. All the others just don't click right for me.

>>56900000
wasted get

>>56900000
I hope the remaining boys do well, but honestly Mangi and Vesp were by far the strongest out of the group, won't be easy to patch that hole

>>56860057
Ok faggots sell me on this guy
Ive only watched daimonji and aethel for male vtubers. Why does he make /vt/ seethe so hard.
I will watch his career blossom with great interest

>>56900076
Bettel was fine for me personally but Vesper and Magni were the pull that kept me watching Tempus and engaged with the community.
i literally just dont care for Tempus anymore now that theyre gone, though i hope Axel and Altare are able to succeed on their own now that they have more genmates to lean on.
imagine if they didnt have the others and it was just the 2 of them to deal with this shit.

>>56900297
he collabed with Kronii and became a shitposting target since its easy to get (You)'s with him. otherwise he's just an autistic guy that enjoys playing old school games and talking about old internet/weeb shit. comfy watch if youre into that sort of thing

>>56899804
sisters are not even subtle

>Betray your friends
>Betray your fanbase
>use holo as a way to boos your shitty indie career
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO KEEP WATCHING MEEEEEEEE

cry more nigger
it was always pretty clear you guys hate hololive and now that they are gone you have yet another reason to shit the board
kek

>>56900537
Cool il watch him as long as he makes vt seethe

>>56867882
>Then why'd he join Hololive if he had such a great youtube and twitter following?
Because it's fun.

>>56895558
I mean look at Tucker Carlson. The golden boy of Fox, once he got canned he moved to twitter or something, expecting his audience to follow and they didn't.

>>56860057
>>56860451
It's not Ogre, everything will be Orky

>>56869854
My armchair rrat:
All the way back to his debut stream he mentions feeling inadequate for the position, but at least he pushed on and did the best out of it for a good while. But I think the suspension at the end of the year was such a big embarrassment he never fully recovered, and in a moment of weakness, those previously suppressed feelings of inferiority began encroaching back onto his psyche, causing even minor slip ups to feel devastating and leading him to self sabotage. The so called menhera arc in his later days may have been a result of a "I can't do anything right, fuck it, don't give a shit anymore" approach.

>>56900297
He makes unicorns seethe and he likes weird boomer games and fucks off innawoods sometimes, probably best known for chatting streams, we’ll see him around again soon

>>56874474
>an orc to seduce Mori
Not small enough.

>>56901559
Tucker is a two-faced sensationalist journo cuck and deserves irrelevancy, at least tubers are good for a laugh sometimes regardless of affiliation

>>56874474
he does like fat girls so i believe this rrat

>>56860451
These are all but interchangeable terms.

his orc model is superior anyways

>>56876164
People drop money on outfit reveals.

>>56860057
I honestly think he was hard to deal with behind the scenes. There's fighting for a better deal and there's just being absolutely annoying while fighting for a better deal.
He had this ego that he couldn't temper.
Don't get me wrong having an ego is fine. But there are times when you just have to not include it in the equation.

>>56881579
>>56881909
anyone got a mega or something?
or a stream name so i can search for it myself

>>56861028
>/here/
he's scared of us though

>>56873068
anime animators...

>>56863917
Most IT guys were unpopular midwit nerds. After working in a company for a while they become very hard to replace. When they realize this they become arrogant and rude
Vesper tried to pull this shit off when he realised he was the most popular Star.

>>56860451
Good eye

>>56862701
I think this is the most likely case. He probably really liked to be a vtuber with HoloStars but didn't expect the off-screen, business side of it, and potentially Japanese business culture especially. Combined with him being a fairly stubborn person. Vesper probably saw the contract period ending and felt it was probably for the best if he left sooner rather than later.

>>56901966
why was he suspended at the end of the year anyway?

>>56918513
I have different theory
First of all, Cover is pretty lax, I mean look at Ayame and Gura, able to take time off for MONTHS. They still care about Vesper even when he got suspended for a long time.
I believe this is Magni's doing. He influence Vesper to ask for bigger pay just like the Writer Guild did. The problem is they're Stars and don't have enough bargaining power.
Magni came out from this unscathed, but Vesper will be a nobody again.

>>56919952
From the way he put it, it seems like he mouthed off to his manager one too many times and they basically put him in time out to remind him he isn't the boss

>>56912807
no fucking shit
He fucked up everything he could fucked up and this place isn't a safe free hugs zone
Guy literally MADE IT and all he had to do was not being a fucking retard but from how things turned out he seem couldn't adapt to a corporate work enviorment

'ate cover
'ate idols
'ate holo-"stars"
'ate youtube by alphabet ($GOOG)
luv me salt lamps
luv me gay orcs
simple as

>>56922303
I love Vesper. But him being a contrarian and act like typical American wagies actually pissed me off.
I understand that Americans are celebrating individualism so much. It used to led to people with great personality. But now people like that are in the minority, replaced by people with big ego who think their feelings can trump a good work ethic.
This is why I believe that StarsJP (and if they want to, StarsID) always better.