/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*yawn*

>>56833912
Anon, it's 2023. Nobody cares about what Mori does anymore.

>>56833912
>e-celeb
Anon he got commissioned to write music once, if he's an e-celeb then so am I

>>56834078
I care, anon.

You going to spam threads because you got laughed at for trying to attach Mori to this guy when all she did was commission a 20 second guitar rift from him?

>>56833912
>14.5k followers
>eceleb
raise your fucking standards, nijitroon and/or dramafaggot

>>56833912
The fact that you think commissioning someone for music makes you friends with them shows me that you never had any friends. Get a life, loser.

>>56834078
This happened because Mori fucked him over

>>56833912
He's right you know? Why work for free

Nijinigger monkey fanning the flames like an ale

Nigger prolly confusing fan submission with job opening

are we really getting a part 2 to this thread? there must be better drama

>>56834373
Guessing the OP of the last thread made this one since he didn't get the Mori hate thread he wanted so he lied even harder in the OP this time.

>>56834103
you wrote music for mori?

>>56834078
the one piece collaboration says you are wrong. Why do Mori antis even try anymore when the entire universe shows them how wrong they are?

We just had this thread
Conclusions
>he is not friends with mori, he did a 10 second jingle for her transformation sequence, this seemed to basically be the highlight of his career since it made it into his bio despite not being a vtuber fan
>one individual in the previous thread mass replied to everyone on cooldown defending the tweet, after this person was banned the twitter account suddenly started replying to people
>Nijifans and Holofans put aside their differences to shit on this guy

>>56833912
Mori will make a stream defending him. Kiara will make a stream defending mori defending him. Nerissa will make a stream defending kiara defending mori defending him. Rock cunny will make a stream defending nerissa defending kiara defending mori defending him and so on and so on

>egotistical artist decides to use his platform as a soapbox
This is as much Mori's fault as HoloBass's meltdown was Ame's. Which is to say not at all. I say this as someone that genuinely dislikes Mori for the shit she's done in the past and still refuses to watch her streams. She isn't to blame that some guy she commissioned for a 15-second riff got an inflated ego and decided to get himself blacklisted from future Cover projects. If you are gonna hate someone do it for real reasons. If she defends the fucktard, then yeah go apeshit, but this is jumping the gun.

>>56833912
>e-celeb thread
>schedule a stream like she did with Connor
What do you call it when some dramafag has no idea what specific words mean or doesn’t even know actual events?

>>56834487
Or they just blacklist and ignore him

Hey I just whipped one of his valuable tracks up in 15 minutes, think he'll pay me for it
https://vocaroo.com/1jBdkGo2SsGV

I don't give a FUCK about what cunts are saying on X

>>56834526
>What do you call it when some dramafag has no idea what specific words mean or doesn’t even know actual events?
South East Asia

>>56834573
Ah yes myth. Ina, gura, kiara, ame and random trans wizard hat lady

>>56834278
A. Exposure of fuwamoco mornings is actually a good deal
B. You actually want to do something for people you like

>>56834278
I dunno anon, why did your parents allow you to live?

>>56833912
No one cares, go back to your split furfags.

>>56834678
Anon…. The trans character is actually the one with the Kiara hat on
t.I’ve read the comics

>>56833912
Connor has clout this guy could only ever dream of. If you think mori would further ruin her career over this guy then you're just delusional

>>56834103
this, he ain't an e-celeb and really ain't even a friend for her. he's literally some guy she hired to do something for her once. that's it.

of course, this guy wants to tout that because it's a big deal for him, but people generally get like that when trying to puff up their own resumes going "yeah I've got connections to the top people in the industry pfft tough luck kid"

>>56833912
>e-celeb
i get the e part but celeb doko?

>>56833912
What happened to the first thread? I still have to cash out my (You)s.

>>56833912
Why are nijiniggers suddenly trying to drag mori into this?

>celeb

>>56833912
who's this?

>>56834447
No but I sent a superchat to gura once

>>56834278
to make artists who only work for money seethe.

>>56835068
a literal who that decided to poison his own brand

>>56833912
I dislike how AI is shoved into everything these days, but whenever I see fuckers like this guy I'm sort of glad it's a thing that will put them out of a "job".

>>56834986
They always try this shit with Mori. There was some drama a few months ago about some /meat/ chuuba who supposedly got raped or something by some dude who was a friend of a friend of a friend who knew the big frankenstein looking dude in Boogey Voxx, who Mori has worked with before.

>>56834473
/thread

>>56833912
this isn't mori related nor is the shitter a eceleb. saying that it's hilarious the sheer seethe two adorable dog girls are causing in the soulless of our rotting dying civilisation.

>>56834224
ironically 14.5k followers sounds about right for the standards of a nijitroon

>>56834278
He is right, except that he is barking at the wrong tree. He should tell it to the fellow composers, not the composition beggars.
He must say things like
>Don't just offer your composition for free, especially for big guns
But then, offering your own compositions for free is what artists do. I mean, that's what caused the KyoAni arson.
But also then, it is not like the KyoAni thing since they can publicly publish it, so they can claim that's their own. Plus the free exposure. The most important thing, the fucking exposure.
Just how arrogant this guy is?

u fukken wot m8?
It's literally trivial and <audio> supports way more than <embed> ever did.
The fact websites aren't blasting people with music in every tab is literally a good thing and only a fucking retard would think it was bad.
This cunt wanting to go back to the days of midis on every website.
The fact websites like Spotify fucking suck is a Them issue, not the web.

>>56833912
>completely original melody
literally impossible
https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2020/02/every-possible-melody-has-been-copyrighted-stored-on-a-single-hard-drive.html

>>56835068
dumb nigger who made a short jingle for mori and plastered her name all over his bio afterwards for clout
now he's dragging her name down even though they only had a one time association

>>56833912
Chad making the Fuwamoco droids seethe

>>56834986
This guy dragged in Mori himself

>>56834275
>This happened because Mori fucked him

Truly the absolute worst cesspit hours of the day

>>56835286
seems to me like he's the one seething kek

>>56834473
>Nijifans and Holofans put aside their differences to shit on this guy
dyrbi

>Mori's Response: play game made for free, FOR FUN

>>56834224
That's exactly what an e-celeb is, retard. Someone not famous enough to be an actual celeb and only have followers on this gay internet.

>Try to smear shit on the company as a whole by making vague statements as if Cover isn't giving them a large enough starting budget
He's going in for round two lmao

>>56833912
who?

>>56835215
Artists historically did a lot of work for free, they tried to convince people that what they’re doing is worth paying for and sustaining because of the art itself, not by screaming into their face that they need to care about it for no reason but them saying so

>>56833912
i got blocked because i mention mori , yagoo and hololive en lol

>>56834448
>The most popular franchise in Japan couldn't get her views

>>56834473
>one individual in the previous thread mass replied to everyone on cooldown defending the tweet, after this person was banned the twitter account suddenly started replying to people
Kek. Imagine exposing yourself like this.

I got about a dozen (you)s in the last thread that were all deleted altogether, it really was just one guy and it was Joshua

>>56833912
>be musically talented ruffian
>not really a professional composer, just able to mix some shit in a software and have a good ear for music
>don't have industry connections no any desire to monetize my "skills"
>be fwmc fan
>they ask for fans like me to compose a 10 sec jingle for them
>immediately realize they're giving a chance for nobodies like me to contribute to their streams
>do something for people I like
Somehow this means they're stealing from me? Somehow this means they're stealing from professional composers (who shouldn't really want to have to do anything with fan events like this)?

I like how nobody but OP is seething at Mori for this, it's become a Laugh at Joshua thread and the OP is still seething.

It even tried to sell a "Mori hates FWMC" rrat

>>56833912
How is the last situation from Twitter?
From the last thread I learn
>He doesn't know shit about vtubing
>Worked with mori but didn't even watch her
Any new news?

Meanwhile Mori:
>Plays Holocure.
>Is oblivious to what's currently happening.

>>56833912

I like the another spin on "Mori's friends hate Hololive" when the jingle this nigger was commissioned for was for a FREE animation Mori's actualy friend/fan Kay Yu made for her

>>56835068
literally me

>>56835741
I'm sorry for your loss

>>56834278
That's like asking why Pebbles don't request to get paid for their Pebblesona.

>>56835715
>>plays holocure
Of course she does, she doesn’t share that faggots opinions at all

>>56835529
The caps lock HEY LISTEN TO ME, THEY NEED TO BE PAID doesn't help his case.

>>56835754
don't be sorry, my daddy taught me never to be ashamed of being a literally who poor white finnish twink

>>56835684
trying to shit on cover with this narattive
>I'm hearing that they may in fact be broke creators. Does HoloEN not supply their creators with the resources

>>56835741
How's the fetal alcohol syndrome treating you?

My guess is this guy got the same issue as that one Composer back then. Some of his inner circle friends must be Mori antis and gaslit him into doing this to drag Mori down

>>56834849
Yes I’ve worked for a multi billion dollar business. That business is McDonalds but still

>>56835831
Pretty good, i get girls sometimes giving me pity fucks when i tell them i have it. They aren't even disgusted when i tell them i play the bass!

Apparently thr concept of a payday is lost on him also

>>56835823
Actual kek, now I fully believe that fucker use 4chan

>>56834278
Why pay someone when somebody else does it for free?
He should complain about creators who flood the market with cheap supply, if anything. FWMC are no charity.

>>56835446
The dude twisted the whole meaning of working for exposure. To every artist I know that means someone asks you for a commission, you give a quote and they try go “oh I can’t pay but think of all the work you’ll get from the exposure!”.
My dad was a gardener and people tried it with him too.
A contest you choose to participate in is different.

>>56835834
No, this stuff happens because Mori has the uncanny ability to attract narcissists and grifters to leach from her without realizing it. It's actually pretty fascinating to watch.

>>56835907
You'd had to have had a job in order to have a payday and not just mooch and live rent free in your parent or gf's basement.

>>56835940
you have an uncanny ability to reject meds

>Yeah, would fans do something for free? Sounds ridiculous haha

>>56835940
>Suisei
>Watame
>Marine
>Reol
>Arcane
Are all narcissistic grifters.

The mind of a Mori Anti really is fascinating.

>>56835940
hi OP

>>56835907
Is anyone even posting about them being broke on there?

>>56834078
I still blame Mori for what happened with Kronii.
The only reason things haven't gotten worse is because the males in Mori's clique are getting terminated.

>>56835939
Agreed, if you don't like the contest then don't submit. If you don't like it but still submit then you're an idiot.
In the end, FWMC never said that they wouldn't pay the winner or that all submissions would have ownership transferred to hololive. The dude's kicking up a fuss he created on his own

>>56836020
People like Joshua DESPISE people who do creative works for free.
Like, absolutely hates it.
His Twitter is filled with rants and retweets in relation to it.
It's honestly hilarious.

>>56836022
Suisei is the biggest narcissist in all of Hololive

>>56836069
>Management can convince someone like IRyS
>Didn't put 2 and 2 together and realize that Mori, Kronii and to an extent, And were just shielding their friends from scrutiny by volunteering.

>>56835508
>Worse numbers than a fucking Niji
This isn't declining, it's a total collapse

Why are we giving clout to someone who just did a 10-second jingle for Mori and that's all he did anyway?

>>56836176
>Mori Anti is also a Suisei Anti.
Figures.

who?

>>56836178
remember when they tricked kanata into that collab with males and she ran away and hid in a corner basically throughout the entirety of it?

>>56836188
>And yet still leads all of EN in total views this month.
YouTube pays for the views not CCV, my friend.

A cute fun fan submission contest gets turned into a shitshow thanks to faggots on /vt/ making a literally who's opinion on twitter blow up.
deadbeats are the worst

>>56836131
this is why I fully support AI taking all the jobs from twitter art fags like him
Its also funny when you see shitty twitter artists who put "don't train AI/ML on my account"

>>56836248
Mori, since the tempus debut, has dropped hints that she's only doing things to shield other ENs from the scrutiny.

>>56836217
I dont anti Suisei, narcissistic girls are sexy as hell

>>56836261
Universal paying for bots to justify the contract.

>>56834986
That's just how this board operates. It's full of retards who can't comprehend thoughts more complex than PINK WOMAN BAD!!!!!

>>56835939
Exactly this, people are mindbroken iver the "paid in exposure" thing that they believe it holds no truth. Obviously trying to pay someone that expected and needs real money in elusive "exposure" is not something you can do, similarly, if you’re a literal who this also doesn’t work.
None of these things apply in this case though, people can join in on this with the prosoect of exposure by an actual big channel, that’s totally different

>>56836261
Doesn't really exclude what the first anon said. Hardly anyone cares for what she's doing anymore, she's just getting views from her music. She should just retire from streaming since she killed that career path by herself already.

>>56836178
>>56836308
LMAO
Mori hates idol culture and loves trying to owni the haters so homo collabs are a no brainer for her.
Kronii just stupid and almost never turns down a collab offer which is why Mori constantly takes advantage of her.

>>56836346
Anon, do you live in your own reality? If there was indeed botting, then why wouldn't they do the same for streams if it was that easy?

>>56836308
my post wasn't even remotely about mori though. holo management and their managers are the ones i'm criticizing

>>56836280
>he think anyone care about this other than /here/
The faggot come here personally to get btfo anyway.

>>56836444
>Why would a record company not bot a stream for a video game and bot music video vods?
You tell me retardbeat.

>>56836286
kek, that's always funny.
About as stupid as "just make laws to ban guns", "it's illegal to murder you know".
Yeah, all those criminals are gonna listen when they are gutting you.
The likes of OpenAI, Stable Diffusion and NAI getting caught out by some peolpe was because they left in entrypoints for genning stuff by a specific person. If those tags were removed from the dataset, literally none of them would have known. Be it their unique art style or whatever else.
Not that it matters now. LoRAs have made it trivial to bolt on new information on top of existing models with ease, using very little information at that.
They've already lost the game. (and so have you)

>>56836436
This post is so incoherent because you cannot define what idol culture is.

>>56836436
>hates idol culture
Why do Nijiniggers love to lie? All she said used to not care about idol culture until she met Milky Queen. That was BEFORE she joined Hololive.

>>56836538
Everything they know about Mori stopped in 2021.

I dislike Mori but you're really reaching here OP. How's it even her fault this dude is a retard?

>>56836487
Them being a music company doesn't mean that they can't do the same for streaming CCV. This is hilarious that you can't do a coherent conspiracy piece to save your life.

>>56836500
>>56836538
>Cuckbeats making assumptions that you have to be from another company to hate Mori.

>>56836578
it's just bait anon. if you haven't caught on the mori antis are clinically insane

>>56835508
Ouch, tempus and racism did a number on her

>>56836618
>They should bot stuff they won't directly profit from.
Keep going full retard.

>>56836633
They also magically have concluded that Mori's views are bottled as a cope to why she leads EN monthly because vtubers should just be streamers.

>>56836436
coping kronie lmao you now remember the
>unfortunately because idol culture is a thing
comment she left under a clip channel.
There's a reason they get along so well, don't try to pin it all on mori

>chuuba organizes a fun community contest
>dumb fucks acts as if the chuuba is forcing people to work for free
Which mental illness is this?

>>56836538
Mori's logic
>Idol culture is very cringe forcing audience buy multiple copies of the same CD.
>SUBATHON IS COOL!!! BECAUSE THIS CULTURE ALLOWS AUDIENCE TO SUPPORT THE TALENT!!!

>>56836698
>Cuckbeat taking the comment out of context
Such many cases!

>>56836578
>How's it even her fault this dude is a retard?
Because Mori haters are blind as bulls seeing red.
Bitch had a lot of problem, but the hate is completely overblown.
P-cuck isn't even her friend.

>>56836742
I'm no cuckbeat, I dislike mori too, but I will call out a coping faggot when I see one.
Kronii is as bad as Mori is

>>56836779
>I'm no...
Lie #1

>>56836538
>>56836568
>BEFORE she joined Hololive
>Everything they know about Mori stopped in 2021.
Kek, deadbeats aren’t even internally consistent about their cope

>>56836792
Lie #1 :
>Believing in " you're either with us or against us"

>>56836792
yeah yeah whatever, keep coping about how pink woman corrupted the clock woman as if she wasn't always just a grifter

>>56836841
>Yean
>>56836828
Imagine getting BTFO by the guy admitting it.

>>56833912
Why does he assume they won't credit the winner?

>>56836726
The mental illness known as Twitter artist entitlement. They're all like this.

>>56836881
Because it's an obvious falseflag. I'm thinking this is the same case with the Death Sentence guy. Likely having Mori antis in his inner circle.

>>56836881
Fuwamoco are notorious already for hating their audience.

>>56833912
Condoms for Joshua

>>56836881
Perhaps he equates Hololive with Twitch retards.

>>56835508
>>56836188
>>56836634
retards.

>>56836977
why tho?

>>56836977
No they're not retard stop making shit up

>>56836632
>>56836737
Now you are just being incomprehensible retard. You guys keep spamming "Mori hates idol culture", so I just provided the context original quote. No sane person will listen to that and conclude "Mori hates idol culture", since she was talking about her meeting Milky Queen for the first time and liking idol culture. And if you still want to pretend she hated idol culture and hololive without quoting (since you know that will destroy your argument)
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1505592488127389700

>>56836977

>>56836742
cuckronie coping real hard

>>56836977
Literally no one genuinely believes this. Unless you have a mental illness.
Watch streams

>>56837034
I think he's being sarcastic, or just retarded

Right on cue.

>>56836818
And you never quoted your source for the bullshit you sprout. "Mori hates idol culture, please bereib!".

>>56837131
>Watch streams
Got any clips? Preferably 20 seconds or less.

>>56833912
It’s incredible that the firsts to create a yab in advent ended up being Fuwamoco.

>>56837017
>Cherrypicks collabs znd holocure early access
The baldur's gate collab and karaoke you linked are extra retarded. Shiori raided mori and 16k people fucked off within 10 minutes.
Baldur's gate had her starting 1 hour ahead of everyone to get the views. 1 hour later 5k people fucked off and another hour later she had less views than Kiara. See pic.
Basically has to resort to tricks to get views.

>>56837073
I don't care if mori doesn't care about idol culture, subaru(hololive JP) said the exact same thing as mori.
But since mori is famous for being a twitchild, it's very funny that she believes streamers and idols are two completely different things.

>>56837226
I've seen Mori do this before, she tried to pull it on Gura with hilarious results.
Imagine losing viewers, to a waiting room.

>>56837222
The yab is by Whori's e celeb friends that she bought into hololive for clout. Not by our doggos.

>>56837286
Well imagine getting to get those viewers and still get trounced in monthly views.

>>56837181
This might shock you but I’m not that Anon. Anyway she had stated early on that she dislikes idol culture, that is not some rrat just because you’ve memoryholed it. Maybe she has changed, idk, but I just don’t care to watch her anymore

>>56837226
Yes, you are right, it's much more honest to cherry pick a stream that got shown from 12 different pov's, one that was a multi pov moba(!) stream and part 12000 of an jrpg stream, those are the only real numbers.
fucking pathetic retard, they probably bullied you out of /#/ and now you shitpost in cheap bait threads instead.

>>56837222
It’s because normies can’t stand their perfectly clean performance. It’s like they’re presented with something that shouldn’t exist, it fries their brains

>>56837331
>Maybe she has changed, idk, but I just don’t care to watch her anymore
No, you still care, which is why you're seething that despite having low CCV, Mori still dominates EN hard on what actually matters (views)

I'm fucking dying

>>56837402
But the views!

>>56833912
>>56835246
>>56837402
this faggot is not only a kiss ass but sounds like the kind of retard that has a meltdown over AI art

>>56837402
kek, he is probably realizing his stunt could get him black listed by cover.

>>56837431
fucking good, the dogs being cute and asking their fans to be involved with the music is exactly that, fucking cute
>"NOOO you gotta hire a starving artist"
fuuuuuck off

>>56837286
That's kinda pathetic. Most girls would stream at whatever time they want without thinking of overlap, because their fans would watch them regardless of who is on. Guess she knows she's just a waiting room

>>56835246
You can actually play an <audio> automatically

Just put a muted attribute on it

Audio niggers to the camps!

>>56837321
this person isn't moris friend nor is he an e-celeb. Fucking retarded anti cunt

this thread is shit compared to the last one. did reddit find out?

>>56837525
It's honestly hilarious seeing him shitting on the web tech not changing.
It improved leaps and bounds above the clusterfuck we had before of NPAPI plugins and embeddable media players. Holy fuck that was awful.
Browsing webpage and suddenly you have Windows Media Player in the webpage. Disgusting.

>>56836881
Musician asshurt, he's one of those Metallica you wouldn't download a car types who fantasizes about the Tower Records days that are just gone and not coming back. Which is fine, you used to have to touch grass to make music, hell you guys watched Bocchi, right? The cost of producing music is a tiny fraction of what it was and so is the compensation, what was an industry is becoming a hobby that's only "crowned" by a small industry. It's good though, getting published is a lottery like system that doesn't reward skill, it especially never did in Mori's genre.

Mori reminds me of my dad but only because my dad happened to be a super skilled guitarist who never got noticed despite making it to Hollywood and getting close to the right people because success in music consists of knowing the right people. Some people want to make it seem like nepotism is taking over but it's actually the old nepotists slowly becoming too rootless and weak to hide the fact the winners are just picked at random by a guy with a guy with a good ear. Now, you're becoming the guy and it's turning music back into real work, not good for music's forever and permanently fakest and least trusted figure: the rapper and/or lead singer.

>>56837643
Nijifags trying to use this as a way to shit on holos instead of this faggot

>>56837331
>A month after her debut
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIU0xG-lXkQ&t=1966s
Again, when people say she hates idol culture, they are quoting this timestampped part out of context. If you actually have a source, then be my guest. But she is clearly talking about when she met Milky Queen and it changed her mind about idols.

https://litter.catbox.moe/rucje5.mp3
that'll be $1999.99 plus tip

>>56837643
The previous thread got Joshua sperging in it

>>56837696
Nope, Holos arent doing anything wrong, but holofaggots like you are massive hypocrites.

>>56837759
Now this thread is OP trying to involve Mori and seething because the drama isn't dragging Mori in and people just laughing at the Sperg.

>>56837713
>Watching anything with Mori
I am not clicking that link cuckbeat.

>>56837643
Joshua got banned so he's not here sperging and mass replying.

>>56837836
>I want proof
>Proof is given
>I don't want to watch it
This is what insanity looks like

>>56837827
The fag dragged Mori into this himself >>56837402

>>56837713
wow, I was wondering why she was in Connor's stream, but now my question is answered.

>>56837900
> Calls her Mori
I'm beginning to believe that he was gaslit by a close friend who's a Mori Anti.

>>56837878
That’s not me lmao
>>56837713
Good, still not watching her though

>>56837944
Or more likely, Mori just doesn't keep good company.

>>56837328
Last I checked Gura isn't leeching off everyone possible to prop up her CCVs.

>>56837981
>Still trying hard to implicate Mori
The animation was done by Kay Yu. Mori could easily just use another BGM if she wanted to.

>>56837817
if you cant see the difference between this and the Selen thing you are a retard

>>56835106
Based.

>cuckbeats desperately doing damage control for the 137943599445th time

>>56838034
>She could have, would have, should have
But she hired Joshua

>>56833912
>14.5k followers
>ECeleb
Have the standards been always this low?

>>56838090
>Spam that Joshua is Mori's friend
>All he did was made BGM for her intro and put her in his bio for clout
>Spam le Mori hates idol culture
>Does not give a source
>Sperg out when people link the original context, where she was just talking about how meeting Milky Queen changed her mind about idols
>REE damage control

>>56838279
It's not even funny anymore.
Cuckbeats are like battered wives. Mori viciously beats you again and again and yet you keep going back and even defending her.

>>56837962
>Good, still not watching her though
But you will spam the catalog on how Mori hates idol culture without giving source, amirite?

This is what Joshua was doing:

>https://youtu.be/YwrcVHspPEU?si=3eZWf_Pu0xr3YLT7

>>56838371
I am not spamming anything, now stop believing that every post of an opinion is made by the same person

>>56838354
>seething that no one believes his "Mori's e-celeb friend attacks Hololive: Do you think she will schedule a stream defending him from the rabid Holo fans like she did with Connor?" narrative

>>56837654
Windows Media player if you were lucky.
Worse a flash media player

winner winner chicken dinner...