/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Which combo of weapons create the "busiest" screen?

i hope Kay yu move yagoo to 60 minutes mark instead fo 30 minutes, i'm trying to have fun

>Fauna gets special dialogue from Nemu
>Piggy Bank has a different name if you play Moona
Are there any other hidden easter eggs in the new update?

After clearing stage 3 hard with Shion I'm convinced whether she's good or not is up to playstyle. Either she does nothing and her portals solely exist to fuck you up, or she hits like a shotgun and lets you control the map.

Aki
No weapons
No items
No upgrades
No specials
Belly dance only
Final destination

This is your meme run for today.

>>56514255
The Takos behind the house leave if you visit them as Ina

HOW DO I BUILD ZETA?

>try the holo who I think is the most boring in hololive
>she is actually fun

I am conflicted

Man I was gonna complain about how Matsuri has the worst kit but damn if it isn't FUN to stack haste and go full SPEEN TO WEEN

the absolute state of my right thumb tho...

>>56514130
You literally become a touhou boss with idol live super collab

>>56514255
Special dialogue if you talk to Bloop as Gura

>>56514447
Shion is hard because I see her as a "flanker" aka I use my portals to teh fullest

>>56514620
micomet, eldritch horror, you only get one super so idol concert

>>56514562
Crit up
Kinda like Suisei but ranged

Enchanting should always roll a new stat, I'm tired of wasting anvils.

Anya isn't considered flat?

I think my clock is broken

>>56514961
Nice clock

>>56514620
Matsuri went from just fuck my shit up to holy fucking kek really quick, still I don't think I'll play with her again any time soon
https://streamable.com/sev1r2

getting max fandom on every character will take at least 60 minutes per character... i don't know if i'm ready to play 40 hours of stage mode

thoughts on running this build for leaderboard times?

>>56513314
>>56467417
before this update she was who i used to idle farm coins while doing something else.
just stay on top of the portals with her dodge, garlic that picks the exp and constant aoe dmg from portals and garlic all i had to do was pick the skills and special if i got in problems.
i do believe she is one of the best for 1hp endless she is with who i have survive the longest at 1 hp 43:42

am i stupid or should i not stack crit on suisei since axe swing is guaranteed crit

>>56515613

>>56513837
Is there any chance in hell Hololive could just pay the guy some pennies and turn the game into an official product? They could port it to the Switch and make millions.

>>56515510
I heard 2 normal and 2 hard stages was the fastest way. Is doing all 3 hard stages enough?

>>56515741
>doing all 3 hard stages enough?
Yes

What's the lewdest HoloHouse you can make?

>>56515561
Absolute Wall and Lamy Water are needed for Yagoo survivability. Holy Fire seems to be the best DPS option I can find. Broken Dreams I'm not sure about, but Rap Dog is a must. Glasses and Halu are must drops within 10 levels like you say. Membership is only 50 attack so it doesn't seem that useful to me. Personally I don't find healing needed at all for late game. I know it's a meme to say just don't get hit but by the time Yagoo is fast enough to hit me he'll one shot me even with 3-400 HP. So I just take Phoenix Feather to account for any missteps. I personally take both anvil items to help me get to a +25 weapon with decent rolls. Definitely thinking about replacing the coat with something better like Headphones or another defensive/offensive option, still can't decide.

>>56515561
Personally I'm not fond of the coat but maybe you can make it work. I just don't like the worst case scenario for it, on top of that the chance you'll get the stats you need with those levels is left to chance. If you're running Piman, maybe three weapon build would work better but the jury's out on that. I mainly say that because you'd use the super collab for utility, and since Piman boosts main weapon damage, you'd use all your anvils enhancing that. Besides that, Eldritch Horror only works on kills and I don't feel comfortable running healing that only works on kills in Endless. But maybe it'd work on certain characters. It all sort of depends on your character too. Maybe someone else has better advice since I can't break 10m like some of these other people.

>do money run
>first time getting over 100k coins
>game crashes
20 minutes down the toilet.
im going to use cheat engine and take back my money.

welp this was 14th, holy fire runs are no joke.

>>56515930
halu increases your score?
so thats why, i was asking myself why when i survived longer there was people with higer score.
i thought endless only cared about how long you survive, but does killing yagoos also add to the score?

>>56516295
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Score

Man I don't think I'll ever enjoy endless mode the way it is right now
Why can't they just loop the whole stage with scaled up enemies each loop instead of this Yagoo nonsense

>>56515930
I've found my tank build lacking when it comes to getting past 40 mins with the damage ramp, so i may try switching to a higher dps setup like you've suggested to optimize the exp and score i can get in the early 30 min range. Broken dreams seems really good for the aoe slow and ill need to try out feather + headphones myself to see how they go.

>>56516114
defiantly agree on eldritch, as the hp of yagoo's later on is too much to even land a single kill for that hp recovery, will also try dropping coat as taking it in a tank build probably isn't a very smart idea...

>>56514130
This is cool

Does shit like bomb stamp synergize with greed?

>>56516488
I'd also say your build also depends on who you're using. You might swap a weapon or item depending on character. Like for Kiara, she prefers damage reduction effects and probably doesn't really care for healing.

this FAT FUCK absolutely refuses to hit the NUMBERS... might have to send him to the same upstate farm his oshi went to...

>>56516647
yeah both running high hp builds and piman in general are extremely character dependent. I was running it on Kiara earlier as her hp scales the best with the stat up and her sword is strong enough with its multihits and large aoe even at high levels.

anyone else loves to let XP pile up first before picking it up

>>56515661
You should because is crit is guaranteed only from base weapon
Stacking crit rate and multihit collabs to proc as many tetris blocks as possible is the way to go (and now she got Beetle to make them hit extra hard)
>>56515702
lurk moar
>Cover actually requested a meeting with Kay Yu
>they actually wanted to add some paid content into his game
>the man said "no" because he wants to keep it free and small-scaled no matter what (it's also why he still prefers itch.io over Steam - to him, the former one has the true "freeware" experience)
>instead they agreed to work together on some other project (maybe, he wasn't really clear on that regard)

>>56517179
>because is crit
*because this crit, sorry typo

>>56517114
Yeah, yesterday I went from lvl 100 to lvl 150 with Kaela in one go. It's like edging

>>56516835
It's definitely nice for her, especially since she's gonna be face tanking a lot so high HP builds are the way to go for her. I'm stumped with Subaru though. I can't tell if it'd be better to do an HP pump build or not. Like despite being a tanky character, it's shockingly hard to survive Yagoos. I guess it's because one skill is worthless against them and the other only activates every ten seconds. And the third skill is a tank skill, but her HP sucks. And if you want to run away, she doesn't have bonus speed or a slow or a stun built in. The fastball hits shockingly hard with some investment, I could hit 3k per ball and she throws them out like a machine gun, and this is just with Piman. The downside is the fastball hit limit really sucks, only 8 is pretty bad for killing large groups. But if you go for a normal, full build, she dies a bit too fast because of the lack of control abilities. And if you go full tank, you can survive Yagoos for a really long time, but you don't do jack shit to them. I don't know.

Can you import custom music for stages?
Also how viable is playing only a single character? I unlocked my oshi and she's the only character besides the Myth characters I have. I've cleared the 4 stages so far.

>>56517693
I only played Gura for like 99% of the game. It makes me sad that she's just mid-tier. I played some of the others that have a more fun playstyle for me but I always ended up back with my oshi. But if you want all achievements you need to play everyone.

>>56517332
she has pretty poor low hp ratios so i don't think stacking tank with piman is the way to go, she does have high speed so that could be good assuming you're running an open stage. Maybe exp items, headphones, and both anvil items to power up a supercolab that carrys you through early yagoos? To be honest it looks like a tough character to build around afters seeing the skills like you said.

>>56516130
You manage to crash it... How?
Did you have a browser with 100 tabs open and rendering an animation at the same time?

>>56515561
I don't think PPP is worth it if you are not going for solo weapon build, and Bandage is amazing against Yagoos, especially when you are already running Full Meal. Didn't test Focus Shades myself yet, but with all collabs being range/multi here it should be a decent option, probably replacing coat. I really don't think coat is viable as a leveling item.

>>56518178
Well, my record is about 36 minutes. And despite me complaining about her fastballs, they do hit hard and fast if you build for them. I've had runs with her that ended around 600-700 HP but those were three weapon runs where I used the super collab more for utility, like Snow Queen to actually have a stun. If I went more for damage, I might be able to push 4k or even 5k on them but I don't want to sacrifice too much survivability, and like I said the power of the main weapon is offset by the hit limit. Her biggest perk aside from that is just having very accessible invincibility, so sometimes you can just run into the center of Yagoos and keep throwing shit because they can't do anything anyways.

>>56514936
Reine is

Is it me or is the fishing minigame broken? Using keyboard and I swear some of my inputs just aren't registered

>>56518596
I felt the same but it turns out I just needed to git gud

>>56518485
If you're still able to consistently kill the yagoo's at 36 mins i would genuinely suggest eldritch as its heal is based off up to 5% max hp, this combined with membership/breastplate and your usual tank setup may be enough to survive the poke you receive, the other thing i was considering was focusing on using her ult as it ignores knock back resist and does fairly high dmg. With high hp, idol costume and the spicy seafood udon food although i'm not sure if this would work in practice.

>>56517858
are there skill unlocks that are behind playing a certain character?

>>56518596
After fishing for a few hours I have concluded that from time to time the fishing minigame will just drop inputs for a second or so. Doesn't seem to correlate with harder strings or anything, I've seen day/night transitions blamed but it doesn't seem to be reliably that. If you're good enough you should be able to save your streak either way, but it's pretty easy to get tilted and drop the string if you start second-guessing your timing when it happens.

>>56518913
It's at 36 that I die from lack of speed/control, usually. It's mainly not enough speed though, I guess I got spoiled on Kiara's slowing fire and took it for granted, that stuff allows you to kite Yagoos for a really long time without getting hit. If I go solo weapon and invest a bunch in Speed/HP, I can survive way longer but at the cost of not killing Yagoos. It's mainly trying to find the right balance of bulk, speed and power that's hard. The special strat, I'm unsure about. Because the special itself is good, Subaru with Plush can just dive into a bunch of enemies if she's near death to hopefully get more revive stacks if she has none, but the special isn't the constant damage you need to get high scores.

>>56487394
>If a skill refers to "on damage", it's specifically damage to your hp, not body pillow.
Unless you're Moona.

>>56519050
Oh, yeah there's items hidden behind characters. I forgot.

>>56513837
Is the meta now playing Holo House instead of the main mode?

>>56519192
try using frozen sea for the aoe slow effect, i found it really useful for late yagoo's, i believe the special strategies is only viable if the food triggers per hit as then you can build around it almost always being up, the speed stamp is also viable if you can't outrun them anymore, even with its damage decrease the speed can buy you an extra 2 mins, other than that i suppose you can hope for more speed stat ups or take something like energy drink.

>>56514130
Bae ult + ring of fitness + x-potato + idol live

>>56515510
Still faster than it was before the patch

Don't you feel that Kobo is kinda shitty? Or maybe my strategy for Hard 3 is wrong... But I only could handle Halu 2, going up totally destroys me.

how are people reaching a million+ coins in a run? i feel like im getting some pretty ideal runs with early greed and superchat and halu but i still only reach 500k with irys. am i missing something?

>>56489542
Grab Piggy Bank. DLC is designed to perfectly synergize with it. Also choose your Stamps wisely. I'd advise Bomb & whichever 2 effect-on-hit ones you want.
>>56504123
I grab it every time just for the extra challenge.
>>56505853
The effect. One of Zeta's skills specifies "crit hits with non-melee attacks" for a proc. This item increases the chance of just that. Presumably Lui's planned to have a similar kit, and he's just introducing it now since it lines up perfectly.
>>56509008
I assume he means save it for the biggest possible hoards of enemies to maximize the coin harvest. And/or keep an eye on your Royal Tea stacks and time it to ensure they never run out (since Greed scales off damage now).
>>56509632
Nah the Blue one was in the first update with the other 2. Red lowers your attack, Green heals enemies. DESU I'm surprised we haven't gotten a 4th yet. A purple poisonous DoT AoE seems inevitable.
>>56510229
...Fuckin' how?
>>56510615
Isn't it on the Achievements list in-game? On the main menu?

>>56519434
By "meta" you mean coin farming? If you're good enough to not drop your 100+ combo at red exclamation marks then yeah, it's much faster than IRyS Endless Mode grind.
>>56519806
Kobo seems to be in the better half of ID update (at least from what I've tested - she's not Risu / Moona / Kaela but she's still good)..

>>56519869
Do you have all the shop upgrades?
Did you cook the strawberry sandwich?
Are you using all the right stamps?
Are you circling the enemies as close as possible?

>>56517179
>the man said "no"
What a fucking moron, holy shit.

damn fauna is nuts with some new items

man jingiskan beetle fauna doesnt fuck around
i tried it and megamiko appeared and instantly died

>>56519869
I got 1.5m with piggy before that, here wanted to test taking glasses instead, got fucked with greed stamp around minute 13 instead of 5, and died a minute earlier than on the piggy run. Would be well over 1.5m too if not for that.

Holocure made me finally want to check out Anya. I really like her design but never got around to catching her streams.

How the fuck do I get 10k damage again?
Building up belly dance with Aki for 20 minutes?

>>56519068
There's also the times when it's a particularly rare fish and even just missing 2 inputs is enough to fail

>>56520300
Yeah, or Suisei with all the damage and crit damage items.

>>56520348
I've been trying the Suisei route all day and the best I've got so far is 4.5k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s0IpNxh6Hs
my wife Ume is playing Holocure in an hour

>>56520300
I remember doing it with Mori. Not sure if the patch changed that

>>56520380
solo weapon piki piman with beetle made it easy for me, could also use hope soda and face mask and ollies item

>>56519950
yes
no
i think so? im using greed, bomb and solo
i'm trying to circle closely, yeah

does the food really make that big a difference?

>>56520223
does the stage make a big difference?

How the FUCK are people getting less than 4-5 minuntes in time mode?

Is there a list of names that got added to holohouse?

>>56517179
>>56520096
If that serves for him to eventually add Rushia, Coco and Aloe, then so be it. Otherwise, screw him.

I've been playing the characters in order to see who I like and I think Matsuri is the only one I have actually disliked both early and late, am I missing something with her that makes her fun?

>get hit and trigger GOD, weapon then knocks them back out of the damage
>trying to play a rhythm minigame in a visual clutter mess

>>56519806
Grab a Bodypillow & at least 1 healing item. It'll charge Praise quicker whilst minimizing interruptions, for more consistent ATK buff up-time.

>>56519050
Check the Achievements menu on the main screen. It lists what unlocks what. IIRC the only Items/Weapons locked behind characters are all "survive as [x] for 10 minutes".

Can't believe it took me this long to go past 30. I fucking love sana

>>56516602
I'm pretty sure that Bomb's purpose is to basically extend the AoE of your main weapon, so any stamps/effects tied to landing a hit with your main weapon benefit greatly from it.
So in 0.5 yes. Now I'm not so sure, since Greed got reworked to emphasize damage-per-hit over number-of-hits.

>>56516406
Vampire Clone, please understandu.

>>56520639
With cheats.

Kay-yu needs to add a way to start with Halu in the first roll. I lost almost all my rerolls trying to fishing it in the first pull. And that cost me the 4th collab. Not that matters, my wife Roboco is so godman highspecs that ended with Halloween Myth in less than a minute.

>>56520771
There's no way Aloe's going to be a character. There aren't enough memes and references to build a character around

>>56521277
>There aren't enough memes and references to build a character around
Kek

>>56521277
Then she would be Azki 2.0 or maybe she would kay made a deal with cover and she would be appear as triangle

Zombie Rushia will be a boss in a future stage
She will resurrect zombie Sana, Coco, Aloe, and the forbidden final zombie, Chris

Quick what's the quickest way to unlock Beetle

>>56521241
I agree, but I think Strange Seafood Soup is the closest you'll ever get.
>>56521277
And then you look at Roboco's kit and realize "oh, I guess you can do it without memes and references".

>>56514562
>>56514887
Zeta's only scaling stat is crit but it's only for one Skill and it isn't even damage-based, it just gives you more EXP. Nowhere near Suisei, who has all 3 skills and her main weapon built around Crit (all for DPS purposes).
The TTGL glasses you unlock by playing her for 10 minutes are perfectly suited to that one skill tho. So I'd advise grabbing them ASAP and aiming for a final collab build with no melee weapons, to maximize their usefulness. Off the top of my head, if you're on track for all of that, see if you can nab Study Glasses along the way too; the new added effect should gel very nicely with the rest.
Oh and she has no healing so at least one healing/defensive item is big value. The stretches when she's not invisible can feel like forever.

>>56521241
Of all the RNG cope, complaining about it at the start of a run is on you - just restart

>>56521573
>just spam restart
Good game design retard.

>>56515561
id make sure you get one of the ringfit weapons
others have stan'd the shield, i personally thing the ball spam offers so much knockback its hard for even the yagoos to get close until 35min
but get one of them
ultra collab wise id get wine instead, wine can freeze yagoos and give you room to move inside the crush, since frozen yagoos you can just walk through them for no damage
but this is a more defensive playstyle if youre someone like suisei or calli who can literally kill them faster than theyre coming in yeah probably fist

>>56521446
That is a thing of the HoloHouse? I just started playing this weekend and didn't pay attention to it, yet.
>>56521573
I usually do, I just think that 3 rerolls would be enough but got greedy and tried to make a new super Collab. Again, in the end it didn't matter.

>>56516655
just make a farm of your oshis mascots anon
besides you will be throwing away all the shit ones to get platinums when youre lv4

>>56514620
>Matsuri has the worst kit
Bandages are her reference. That's a hint to build her with the express intention of getting hit as much as possible.
Pick up stuff like Breastplate & Plushie and run straight into the hoards. Blitzkrieg.

>>56521699
Yes, you can cook food which gives you a buff for the next N runs. There's one that increases Halu chance, and one that increases Glasses/Labcoat chance, among others. Can't stack them so it's still worse than if they just let you start with Halu.

>>56521699
>That is a thing of the HoloHouse? I just started playing this weekend and didn't pay attention to it, yet.
Yeah, you can now cook food and take it to levels. Different kind of food gives you different kind of buffs, and Strange Seafood Soup greatly increase the chance of Halu appearing. Again, it's not the perfect way to implement early Halu, but it's the best we have so far.

>>56521277
Mesugaki.
Demon.
DJ.

That's a ripe enough concept on its own for 3 character kits.

>>56521277
Just give her the modified Azki's kit.
Azki needs a big update anyway with her recent Geoguesser shenanigans.

>>56521438
Stage 1.

>>56521872
...Shit that works on several different levels.

>>56521901

>get to the final bosses on stage 3 hard on my first try with Risu with overpowered build
>die instantly as soon as they spawn even tho they were nowhere near me
Huh?

>>56522080
They rush you and throw puddles on the ground which are hard to see.

>no achievement for 100+ chain fishing
Oh well. Huge haul at least.

whats the best way to get coins? i havent played since JP were first added.
halu + superchatto?

does leveling up halu do anything besides coins and mob strength? if i just want density for xp should i just ban it after level 1?

>have 75% crit
>get super sake
>"get +20% crit"
>now have +89% crit
huh i always thought it meant 20% raw
no, its 20% of your current crit because ????

>>56522446
theres a stamp that gives % chance per base weapon hit to drop coins
pick whoever you want and look for the stamp then go ham
supperchatto helps just to automatically pick up the coins but super experience also picks up coins now so its not strictly necessary
if you really want to farm then use irys, her base weapon multihits so many times it gets alot of rolls on the stamp

>>56522497
Each Halu level increase enemy spawn rate by 2, so by getting more enemies you also get more EXP

>>56515561
>>56518382
I tried. I think it went relatively well, but my killrate really dipped around 37. I got really screwed by anvils, 15% fails felt more like 70% fails. Maybe I could last like a minute longer and kill Yagoos faster if not for all the anvil damage lost.

>>56522926
>>56515561 (me)
glad to hear it went well anon! i would suggest taking one of the %25 dmg reduction item's (membership/breastplate) as they really help when tanking late game yagoo's. You could also possibly swap out eldritch for another item as it loses value late game.

just realised you can sprint around Holo House by holding confirm
now I feel silly

>>56523475
I might try replacing Sea/Eldritch for Broken Dreams/Snow Sake. Dunno about damage reduction, bandage + full meal always felt better, especially on Irys with Headphones. Wouldn't know which one of bandage/meal to replace for like Membership.

>>56521277
Just grab some memes from her current persona.

I still dont understand what beetle do, increase 100% dmg of what, main weapon ?

>>56524199
desu i think the healing from full meal would be enough to sustain without bandage, but I'm not 100% sure what item would have the better synergy with IRyS's kit. However I'd suggest changing eldritch for bone-bros as it gives massive damage and works great with focus shades.

i got the nub of the hammer at lv40 here
it may be possible earlier than we thought
sure you might not roll the rest of the hammer for a while, b ut what really is the lowest level

>beat 3h first try with full-tank erofi+breastplate
fun but paint was laggy

>>56524687
forgot image
you can see it in the top right

>>56524687
3 collabs
theoretically you could get it level 1 with just holozon drops + anvils but you're obviously going to be picking up exp
maybe 30 with kaela

nub just means you have a collab+equip that can combine

How do you reach 500hp? Best I could do was ~400 with pikiman and bandaid. Is it all luck, or is there a character who gets some extra buffs?

>>56524502
damn, that looks good
meanwhile mine looks like this

>>56524537
Damaging skills, not weapons. So Gura's Whirlpools, Shion's Garlic/Black Holes, Sana's Gravity Wave, etc.

>>56524905
ive gotten nub without the right item, i think it just checks viable collab

>>56524798
The nub just indicates that you have a collab that can create a super collab. It won't become the handle till 50, which is when the actual hammer can drop.

Holy shit rock loli engage with chat banter like a pro, shes playing the long game. Please be pekora of en

>>56525024
main weapon only, that will add the chance for you to pick HP up in your level up screen

Has there been any math done to compare the glasses and coat? I assumed glasses were superior but I'm doing casual stage one clears for fandom ranks and with an early coat and random weapon picks(only ended up with one collab; Broken Dreams) I still got to level 101 with Okayu by the time I finished the stage(20:13). This is with a file that has most upgrades at level 3-5.

>>56525024
well first of all pick someone like sana or kiara that has high base hp, since the +10% rolls off that, some characters only have 40/50hp so its a big difference
make sure you have all the +hp buffs in the A-chan shop
then plan to go endgame so you keep getting the hp rolls so coat/glasses, and bandage pikipiman for hp
also Jingisghan super Collab gives 100hp so get that
i reached 800 hp as sana doing this

>>56525024
elite cooking+uber sheep super collab gives +100hp
roboco for +20% exp gain or kiara for highest starting hp, not sure what the math is like for which is better

>>56525448
>>56525305
>>56525239
Thanks. I will try with the collab, that should get me enough.

>you can get Golden Fish with the starting rod
Hmmst'veth.

>>56522080
Each one has a different attack. >>56522137 is Ina's.
Might also depend on what healing you were running.

>>56522525
What character? It should have been a flat CRT increase, so it's possible you caught them between a Skill reset.

>>56525499
Yeah, I got a golden shrimp on my 8th cast. It can happen, just rare.

>>56525024
Do that again with Korone. She gets bonus HP.
Also it doesn't have to be Stage mode. Try Endless.

>>56525567
baelz

>>56525613
I was farming base fish for workers and it appeared at 99 lel.

>>56525681
>btich do i see you watching other holos
>silly koresuki looks like you need a few koro punches again
>i only hurt you cause i love you just stop being silly alright

>>56525676
Hmmmmm, yeah IDK her CRT% buff is unconditional and doesn't even change when you level it up. That's odd.
Did you have any other Crit items, like the GWS Pill? Also by "Super Sake" do you just mean lv3? Cuz that's 20%, Super's 30%.

>>56525825
heh

>>56525069
looks comfy, just need some mats to break the floor monotony
hopefully we get them next updates

>>56525069
incidentally I really hate how the walls take up an even number but the width of the house is an odd number so you can't wall off a segment like that without leaving a gap in your wall

Last two hires will be reserved for Ruffians.

>>56525883
the super collab with Sake i mean, Snow Queen
Snow Queen was giving me multiplicative crit chance

holy shit i didnt know this one existed
absolutely wasted on a stage run
>>56526358
>not making ryan gosling an amevestigator

>>56526638
I really should farm all the unlocks for more interesting builds.

how do i turn off fandom?

>>56526782
Refund it in the shop

>>56526782
its an upgrade in the shop

>>56526797
>>56526803
oh fuck i'm retarded, thank you

The walls in the house fucking suck. Kay Yu fix this shit.

How do you turn off weapons for leveling up? Trying to coin farm and it seems like other people can somehow do it but I can't?

>>56527332
Shop upgrade

>>56527332
Shop upgrade.

>>56527433
>>56527470
What are you talking about it's not ther-
>There are different tabs in the shop
Oh I'm an idiot. Thanks.

>Super superchat first item
>Greed stamp is the last stamp to drop at 25m
草

is candy worth taking with shackle

>>56527719
if you already have shackle, sure
if it's not endless you don't need shackle

>>56526797
>>56526803
huh i didn't get achievement, should i buy g rank off too?

>>56528213
You have to not pick the skills during the game too, dummy.

>>56528252
so no passive skill? i can still get item and weapon right?

>>56528213
Eliminate skills. You turn off fandom to not start with random ones or full skills due to fandom bonuses. Weapons and items only, no character skills.

>>56528288
Yeah. Just can't have any of the 3 character-specific passives.

>>56528304
>>56528323
alright

>>56528304
>>56528323
oh yea, what about ultimate skill?

>>56529011
I think that one is fine, but not like you need it if you run 1 normal for achi.

>>56529011
Your special? You can use that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOG_JcpSwio More Cure today.

>>56529132
We're all watching Ela right now

>>56529132
this time what, she finally clears s2 normal?

>>56529132
>Kronii
>Chat is disabled for this live stream.
lmao

>>56529175
she just got super feather
fucking streamer luck

>>56529247
Skill is when luck becomes a habit

Am I supposed to rush collabs or do I max out character weapon/skills first?

>>56529404
Skills should be maxed out by default from Gachikoi rank, so you don't have to worry about them.

>>56529453
What if they're not?

>>56529404
Depends on the character, some awakened main weapons are super strong and can carry you for a while as you work in items and look for weapons. Either way by the time you hit 50 it's good to have a collab+item ready for your super collab of choice.

How is manager mode supposed to work? The stupid hires run out of stamina in like 5 minutes and if they use plants then they cost more coins to feed than they generate.

>play Kaela
>get No Pressure
>get Spider Cooking
>realize they don't overlap correctly, one is clearly off-center
I'm pretty sure Spider Cooking is centered, is No Pressure off-center?

>>56529771
They're a coin loss early on, they start breaking even fairly quickly and by the time they reach level 7 or so they start making money. Currently mine are level 25-30 and collectively they bring in nearly 200k going from full stamina to empty.

>>56514255
special dialogue from Bubba if you're Ame

>>56529109
>>56529120
thank you

>11m score
fucking how?
also this was the rank 1 but when I checked just now it's disappeared
maybe Kay thinks he is cheating?

Tried Risu first time. She's nuts.

>>56530688
He's playing in Japanese.

>>56530688
>11 HP
How?

>>56531520
Took a +10 HP levelup probably.

>>56531520
hardcore+food that gives hp

>>56531520
>>56531581
Pufferfish food.

>>56513837
>finally beat the no hit achievement
>celebrate
>final achievement doesnt come
so do i have to finish the ingame achievement list or something to unlock the steam one?
im so tired...

>>56531781
Are you sure you did it?

>>56531850
81 out of 82 on steam
i assume the ingame achievement has to fire
which means completing all gachikoi right?

>>56514562
Glasses + Anvil build
Her skills and weapons all crave fast XP and when stealthed, becomes an almost instant kill weapon.

If you need more defensive items pick up Headphones instead of anything else, you need to stall until you reach stealth again, offensively you're looking at Idol Outfit and anything that can improve her main weapon.

If you're going to play with Weapons on, then cutting board and BL is good to keep her from being horded, basically anything that has a KB so you can time the stealth proc yourself.

If you manage to find Iofi's sticker, it's over for every single boss

When is it not worth taking
>exp glasses
>credit card
>anvil item

>>56531918
Have you tried restarting the game? I know originally the completion achievement sometimes required a restart.

How would you guys want them to expand the side holo house stuff?

I'm stupid bros. Should I switch?

>>56533058
I want the slaves to still work even when they have no stamina.

>>56532577
yeah, nah
at this point im sure it really is tied to the ingame list
which means completing all gachikoi (which i havent done)

>>56533063
You can switch with the solo stamp, but the attack speed one should be even better. In that stage you probably don't need stop stamp to slow down enemies, but it's also an option.

Marge, why is my game running so slow? I remember it running fine when I downloaded from itch.io. But now both versions are slow.

>>56533209
Thanks. Unfortunately I already sold the haste stamp but I could probably still hit 1m coins.

>>56532258
>glasses
Always take if they drop early. This was the case before and they've only gotten stronger.
>credit card
It's hit or miss and loses a lot of value in Endless, mainly due to the fact that anvils are RNG and even though it provides guaranteed anvils it still requires four levels to max it out and it's only going to provide 9-19(realistic average would be somewhere around 13-15 if leveled quickly) so you'd still need to see about ten RNG anvil drops per run for it to compete with something like the Researchers Coat which, if you play well, is basically guaranteed to give 22-24 levels and only needs to be upgraded twice.

It's worth noting that the increased chance of anvils spawning also works with Kaela's skill so it's a genuinely good item for her but it still loses value in Endless.
>anvil item
Blacksmith's Gear? Generally considered very good since it only requires a single level of investment to get a lot of value out of it, though this assumes you get it early on.

>>56530688
100% cheated

Should I fish to get all the upgrades? Seems like the farming strat assumes that you're on full upgrades.

>>56533058
- Give the mems some lines to say when you talk to them like Kaela replying to you with a "Get some help"
- Be able to assign certain mems to do certain tasks like farming and fishing and possibly more activities if they're added
- Have the mems visit your house like they visit the outside area
- More activities of course but that's probably already coming with the casino being hinted at
- More decorations for the house that you can only get from beating the hard stages
that's all I can think of for now

>>56533058
give me a golden soil that can grow x99 of whatever is planted, I'll pay anything for it

>>56533058
Let me cook super food using crops that were watered by Reine's piss

>>56533058
Let me have sex with the girls so I have a reason to go there.

>>56530688
I just recreated this and got a similar amount of kills, more coins, but died way earlier (~32 minutes). My final score was just over 4m.
So unless the bonus points for hardcore survival time beyond 30 minutes is massive, it's probably cheated.

>>56533517
There's no real need to farm anything. If you're going to invest time in fishing just use workers to make money.

>>56530688
Hardcore + exp items + CC items/stamps + infinite kiting.
It's actually a decent setup. Snowqueen freezes everything that comes in range, and frozen enemies don't deal collision damage. Cuttingboard had a small knockback to help push enemies away. Mumei's homing feathers are strong and homing means no real need to aim, plus stun/knockback stamps apply on the explosions as well so tons of CC. Then it's just grab every speed powerup and outrun for as long as you can.

I got idol outfit, superchat time and greed stamp with Reine but only made 20k after 20mins, what else am I not considering?

>>56534064
halu

>>56533058
>>56533559
Also
- Add an online function for the house interior so that you can visit and let other players visit your house. No multiplayer, just a window with player names with a screenshot of the interior that you can click on and a visit number counter so that the most visited houses are on top of the list and a search function so that you can search for a friend's house for example

I should try going for +600% atk.

>>56533921
>HC bonus = Base(Final minute*.02)
So at 32 minutes, you would have gained an additional 2.5M. Assuming all things the same, at 45 minutes you'd have gained 3.6M, and that's just for hardcore. He also would have gained higher base scores for time and levels at the very least, which would push the HC score even higher

>>56533058
1) character interactions when you talk to them based on who you are seems pretty obvious
2) making an overall town for them and just spreading out the area, put fauna and the farm in a cute forest, etc.,, it'd be cute if it become a small world

>>56534286
I should mention my score was also with hardcore. Not sure if that changes much.

>>56534064
Halu and spicy seafood udon

>>56534153
Is that Randy Savage?

>>56534494
Not a ton. We can almost calculate his score straight up by the screenshot, but the big problem is we don't know how many of those kills where Yagoos, and they appear to be considered either mini-boss or boss tier. So the longer you survive, assuming you are still securing some kills, the more your score shoots up. Looking at his end results, ignoring all yagoo kills, he'd be sitting ~7M for score, which means he'd only need
-800 Yagoo kills (if they are considered bosses)
-4000 Yagoo kills (if they are considered mini-bosses)
With 28k kills, neither of those are impossible.

>do no items, no weapons, lv1 main, hard mode at the same time for achievement purposes
>end up with so low damage that I can't kill halloween bae in 13 minutes, despite using special on cooldown
At least I have pacifist finally

>>56533058
Add additional floors to the house.
Add a temporary fishing buff that costs a fuckton of coins.
Add more food that isn't just basic stat boosts because Pufferfish is already broken for that(I hope it gets nerfed).
Merge the speed/yield soil because honestly faster growth is pretty useless. Having the two combined would make it great for when you're fishing/farming for worker food.
Add a new third soil option that triples time needed to grow but significantly increases yield and gives a chance to provide a rare version of the crop which can either be purely for collection or used to create enhanced versions of current food or entirely new foods.
This would probably come off as pretty "trolly" but a fandom wars minigame that basically amounts to an auto battler. Pit your workers against other fan groups. It'd probably be a bit too much work to give each fandom a unique skill set so just have a few different skills and allow the player to assign them as desired. Make this another coin sink.
Add a few generic simple minigames. At least one puzzle game since JP loves those. Tie at least one grindy reward to each.

>>56535428
This but also more crop slots

Is there any way to relock unlockable items? I'm sick of sinking an hour into a score run only to have it ruined because one of the items never appeared. Ten eliminations just don't cut it anymore with how bloated the item roster is now with niche and useless trash items. I feel like I'm being punished for doing the achievements.

Holy shit some of the characters have such different gameplay, the dev is so creative.

>>56535821
Eliminate needs to be bumped up to a 20 upgrade. Rerolling is still fine at 10.

>>56535895
That's probably the main thing that sets HoloCure apart from VS and others in the genre. Most of the characters feel different to play and encourage different builds.

>>56536036
I've never played VS or others.
How are they different? Do they have as many characters as this game?

>>56535898
We need some way of perma-trashing items. I will never take Labcoat, Feather, or Sweets, for example. All that they do is burn off eliminations and rerolls and I would be better off if I had never unlocked them. A minmaxer who uses Cheat Engine to just buy out the shop and unlock stages has a huge advantage over me because I actually played the game and unlocked the achievements that dumped this garbage into my pool.

>>56536309
Sweets is a straight dps upgrade, and feather is removed from your pool on death.

>>56536144
VS has everyone start with a different weapon but everyone can get every weapon for the most part (don't know if thats changed) collabs are more like evolutions that require a buff item and you can't aim. There's not much to recommend it above HoloCure unless you want to see a different art style and I've played like a hundred hours of it

>>56536517
>The item remains in inventory even after all revives are consumed.
Ok, no, this is retarded.

>>56536144
one big thing about VS is that you cant aim
at least that was what i recall struck me most when i first started playing this

Kay Yu must really like Mona but completely ignores Zera existence.. Moona kit looks so cool and flashy while Zeta's is so... boring. I know she's a secret agent and all that, but her attacks and skills look so bland.

>>56536612
feather should be the same as the super feather
each time you pick it, you get a revive stack, up to 5
each time you die and revive, you get 10% HP and attack

there, it's now not a complete waste of an accessory slot

>>56536735
I had lots of fun with Zeta. All ID3 girls are good IMO.

>>56536144
In VS the difference between each character is minor. Starting weapon is just a basic weapon that anyone else can get. Stats are slightly different. At best you have a passive like getting an additional projectile every few levels. It's nothing major and after you've played HoloCure you realize just how similar they all are.

>waa waa this item is not really good
Fucking kill yourself.

>>56536735
He clearly wanted to rush ID so he could get some of his favorites in.
Moona, Ollie, Reine and Kaela are extremely well done.
On the other hand, you have Zeta and Anya who are extremely uninspired. They even get a single fan rep that has a reskin while the others get multiple fans + boss models.

>>56536309
>Labcoat
Why?
>Feather
Fair but it's an amazing item for newer or less skilled players or just to have as a safety net.
>Sweets
Why?

Not every item is going to be optimal and it shouldn't be that way. I'm assuming you like to do tryhard endless grinds and you get mad whenever a run doesn't come together all that well due to RNG. The thing is RNG is a staple of this genre and many others it was built from. You're not meant to have a great build every time. You're meant to work with what you get while having a certain degree of control to help push things in a direction you favor.

My house spawned a second toilet and every time I try to move it or delete it my game crashes

>>56537040
Anya has one of the most creative passives in the game.

>>56537092
Mucho texto for zoomers

>>56537130
>kamioshi tries to install 2nd toilet
>try to reject her
Gay?

Why the hell does every freaking worker want shrimp
I don't have shrimp
I'm fishing eels and koi by the dozens
Eat the fucking river noodle instead you fucksticks

>>56513837
I wish the game had specific collabs for each character. I know it would be a ton of work, but it'd make them feel more unique, cause all the subweapons and collabs make them feel pretty samey at times.

>>56537130
There's an option in the shop to reset your house.

Korone seems really overpowered
She basically has everything in her kit from the beginning and can build whatever she wants

>>56537159
>Mucho texto
You can't be serious.

>>56521958
https://files.catbox.moe/ougxv4.webm

>>56537297
>BoR in chat
Is he still around?

>>56537286
>Korone seems really overpowered
Just like in real life!

>>56537286
Well she is by far the strongest Holo girl so it makes sense.

Can someone explain in great detail how Reine gold farming works?
As far as I can tell I just take Superchat and Idol Costume and punch more or less on cooldown. Greed stamp solo weapon like normal. Take lots of stat ups and max hp. Halu/Exp/Anvil builds don't seem necessary

However even with maxed everything I still have to pay a lot of attention to farm any real amount of gold in Stage 3 Hard. It's basically a coin flip whether I get to Myth, and I can't really make it far enough into endless to make it worthwhile. I'm getting about 200k a run only. Do I just downgrade to a lower stage or is there a way to make this work?

>>56537397
Yes, in fact he was one of the organisers of putting a Miko ad in Times Square for her 5th anniversary

>>56537482
Get halu for sure.

>>56537134
The heal and slow enemies while standing still?

Sure, but it has no synergy with the rest of her kit. Her stacks lose 5 whenever she gets hit and her double hit/pick up range skill potentially works.

I found the heal skill's best use to slow down enemies momentarily because it has a 1-2 second delay after you move. To get the most milage out of her skill, you would need extremely specific items and you can't do that in majority of runs.

>>56537281
I see. Thank you.

>>56537092
NTA but for Labcoat, it's because currently it's inferior to Glasses in every way assuming you also take Halu.
Labcoat : 4% EXP every 2s, 1 level every 50s assuming you never get hit.
Glasses : 30% bonus EXP, additional 0.3% weapon damage every level.
In a 30m run, you get 36 level out of Labcoat if you never get hit, while with Glasses you get roughly (your current level without glasses/3) bonus level. With Halu, it's extremely easy to hit level 100 even without Glasses in an Endless run, you usually get it some minutes before YAGOO start spawning. Glasses also come with benefit of scaling your damage over time, while Labcoat just reset completely if you get hit in that 2s gap.

>>56537286
Her kit is very well rounded, which makes her great on her own, but does also mean she doesn't specialize in anything. Really fun for solo-weapon, but others can do various builds better.

>>56537286
Her RGB stamp game is weak

>>56537482
A few things here. For one, get halu. Halu means more spawns, more mob density, and more enemies hit with each ult. Also halu grants bonus coins at the end of a run. Second, there's no real reason to do stage 3 hard for it, your better off doing regular stage 1 or 2.

>>56537645
>In a 30m run
Items aren't balanced entirely around tryhard runs. I'd wager most people only do it once or twice to see if they can or maybe a few runs for coin farming but those aren't score runs.

For regular stage completion the coat is arguably better assuming you aren't constantly getting hit.

>>56537558
>it has no synergy with the rest of her kit.
Many characters are like this. Not everyone has a set of three skills that feed off of each other. Sometimes characters just have a nice bonus thrown in.

>manager caught me playing holocure
>"we have a time and place for that.."
>haha yeah things are slow and i finished my tasks for the week
>"i need you to clear your desk by today"

>>56536517
Limiter, Injection, Credit Card, Plushy, Feather, Energy Drink, Piggy, GWS, Devil Hat, Coat, Headband, Sausage, Shackles, and Bounce Ball. Those are just the unlockable items, there are also default items that I will never take. There are 77 armory items competing for 11 inventory slots and it's only going to get worse as more patches add more items.

>>56537092
Endless score runs take over an hour, so yes I'm mad when all that time is completely wasted because I never saw Full Meal. Slapping together a good enough build is fine for stage mode, but missing out on one item kills a score run because the Yagoo section decides your score and is purely a gear check. When 10 eliminations, 10 rerolls, and almost 100 level up screens aren't enough to even see all the items there are too many damn items.

>>56537770
I guess so, but I'd pick it more often if it's reworked to 2% every 1s. Current Labcoat is just too inconsistent and punishes you too hard when you get hit.

>>56537989
>tryhards
>gets salty
lmao

>>56537942
>working on a sunday

>>56537942
Well you are an idiot, congratulations.

>>56537770
Thats a thing I cant help but think about now. A LOT of people are gonna playt his different ways. Some folks are gunning for millions of coin drops some just wanna play the hard stages some wanna mix/max others wanna do 1 HP or challenge runs and some folks just wanna pick up the game witht he cute vtubers and kill everything in stage 1 over and over.

This creates an lot of ideas on whats best in different circumstances that dont match up and a lot of us more autistic types are likely to spurg out if it doesnt match what we are doing

>>56537537
That just means I'll get wasted far earlier in Stage 3 Hard, which I guess is a skill issue, but I genuinely don't know what I'm doing wrong. I just never end up with enough damage to clear quickly. This is with fully maxed items (typical example: horn, plushie, piki, membership, costume, SC) and every anvil going to weapon upgrades.
I could just go back to IRyS for coin farming but god damn it there's no challenge in that.

>>56537757
Okay, a normal stage is an entirely different ball game, just wasn't sure if I'd be nerfing my income unnecessarily.

>>56537942
Moron

I bet you main baelz

>don't get glasses
>restart run
It's that simple.

>>56537645
where do retards get the idea that 30% more exp translates to 30% more levels?
total exp needed to reach a level scales by the level raised to the 2.1 power. 30% more exp gives around 13.3% more levels.

>>56537942
If you got fired for playing a vidya game at a desk when all the work was done then there was more going on than you are telling us

>>56538227
He probably had his dick out

I keep dying with Zeta on the hard stages, it's hard to get sustain on her

>>56520986
There's exactly one which wants you to do more than 10 minutes. Gotta clear stage mode as IRyS to unlock Hope Soda.

>>56538260
All his fault then. Everyone knows you only do that if the boss is already doing it

>>56537991
>but I'd pick it more often if it's reworked to 2% every 1s.
That would be fucking broken. Currently an early coat can amount to about 24 levels in a 20m stage clear assuming you upgrade it quickly and don't get hit too much(or just take Body Pillow since it's a universally good defensive item for anything other than fighting Yagoo.)

>Found my employee playing holocure today
>"haha yeah things are slow and I finished my tasks for the week
>tell him he needs to clear his desk by the end of the day
>Go home and spend some quality time with Kobo

>>56538434
Based

>>56538434
Based mane-san

>>56537942
what exactly is the time and place for playing video games at work? that line makes no sense.

>>56538629
Depends an office job might just have a "Get X things done and you are on the clock 9-5". Its not like a store where customers are always coming in so the possability of downtime while still on the clock isnt unheard of fior that sort of job

Kaela is working on last achievement, update doko tweet soon

>>56538629
The time and place is at home.

>guy in the cubicle next to me got fired for playing Holocure at work
>fucking idiot didn't rebind all the keys so that you could play in the background while also typing like I did
>just got gachi rank with Mel while being paid
>they even promoted me to fill the other guy's spot

>>56538431
The ceiling will be unchanged, anon. I only proposed it to lift the floor and gives it better average EXP gained because getting hit while on that 2s gap fucking sucks. The item is too much of a 0-100 with how it resets the rate from 4% to 1% completely on a single damage received.

>>56539332
>The ceiling will be unchanged, anon.
My mistake then, I assumed you meant 2%/s baseline. It still wouldn't be a very big difference overall unless you're constantly getting hit and as I already pointed out the penalty can be bypassed with the Body Pillow.

If it's buffed at all it should get some kind of minor offensive or defensive component. In most cases it's better than the Study Glasses for exp but it doesn't increase damage.

>>56538814
What is the last achievement? Didn't she complete it last patch?

>>56540236
it was bullet hell achievement, she is done now

>>56540390
Ah, that was very easy I get it without trying in Hard 2 playing with Moona.

>>56540147
It could be the defensive version. 0.5% damage reduction per level gained through labcoat alone would be good enough. Around 30 minutes for endless run where you would get the coat few minutes in and die after 30 something = 18 to 36 levels depending on how many times get hit, so 9-18% damage reduction.

Does turning enemies to takodachi still give you the same rewards as killing them?

GOLDEN FISHING ROD OWNERS ASSEMBLE
POST PIC OF YOUR OSHI HOLDING IT

>>56541705
Not quiet there yet. Rhytem games are for my oshii not me. Hell im not even sure hwo to spell it correctly

>>56541403
Yes.

>>56541705
My oshi isn't in the game.

>next update even bigger
https://twitter.com/holocuredev/status/1693339206255522123

Thanks Kaela

>>56541705
uuuu

where do you guys stop leveling crit chance on high score runs? is 75% the sweet spot or do you get closer to 100%

>>56521446
Strange seafood soup should give the effect of Halu 5 and stack with actual Halu.

>>56542371
There won't be much new content, but there will be 1000 very specific achievements to get, like clear x stage with y character using z collab on Tuesday.
>>56542442
Around 80% where I stop prioritizing it and only get when the other option is pickup range.

Are Golden Fish only for selling? No other special use?

>>56542574
cant you put golden shit in your house, some people been dropping screenshots in here

>>56542636
That's a separate furniture item you buy for free when you fish up a particular Golden Fish the first time

>>56542574
Catching a golden fish unlocks a trophy of that fish for the house.

>>56542687
Same shit.

>>56542442
Depends on character. On Bae I'll go all the way to 100 and prioritize it over ATK until a bit over 80, but on a character with no crit synergy I just take it when it randomly shows up early or over SPD and PUR.

>>56542847
In endless runs SPD is kinda more important than crit.

What are the three I'm still missing?
Clear with a special character?

>>56543065
Use the ID girls

>>56542906
I'll clarify that all my endless runs since 0.6 have been fat fuck self healing idols sitting on top of Jingis blobs and facetanking.

Rate my "Only Option 1" run.

Turns out you don't need magnets when you are the magnet.

>>56537989
>Injection
Just heal faster.

Still can't beat stage 4. The 10 minute boss always kills me.