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Why is Indonesia such an important country for vtubing, despite its relatively low impact globally in other areas?

>> No.56500198

>>56500076
That's the flag of Poland you big dingus

>> No.56500463

>>56500198
retard spotted, poland has the colors swapped.

>> No.56500571

that's the flag of monaco you biggus dingus

>> No.56500581

>>56500076
Because Nijisanji started the retarded Asia pandering and Hololive followed with "monkey see monkey do mentality".
Indonesia is a terrible horrible choice, not only they bring negligible income they are community AIDS.

>> No.56500640

>>56500076
Kurwa! That's Poland.

>> No.56500743

>>56500076
Indonesia is actually used to evade taxes in Japan

>> No.56501278

>>56500076
Japan want to conquer Indonesia like the good old time before Hiroshima/Nagasaki

>> No.56501437

>>56500198
dumbass

>> No.56501574

>>56500076
We've talked about this before anon...
It's an easy test ground for JP market, lots weebs there, access, and things I don't remember.
Try searching "Indonesia market" around 4~5 days ago on archive website.

>> No.56501682

>>56500581
>YAGOO said he's inspired by AKB48
>AKB48 has Indonesian sister JKT48
>Obviously it's Nijisanji lmao
Retard

>> No.56501945
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56501945

>>56500076
I literally never heard of Indonesia until I watched Hololive

>> No.56502043

Fourth most populated country in the world
Some notable, established idol groups like JKT48
Strong diplomatic and economic ties to Japan
A significant portion of the population knows English to some extent

>> No.56502321

>>56501682
He may say he's inspired by AKB48 but the fact that he keeps hiring people who can't sing or dance makes that smell like bullshit. Hell, the most recent hire, Shiori, sings worse than your average drunken salaryman karaoke.

>> No.56502515

>>56502043
Most populous but with shit GDP. India or Brazil would make more sense from a cashflow standpoint

>> No.56502529

>>56502321
at least half of gen 3 can sing and one of them is a likely contender for the best singer in EN
>Verification not required.

>> No.56502826

>>56502321
Monna exist it's the closest thing you can get to akb48

>> No.56502886

>>56502043
>Fourth most populated country in the world

>Gets Kobo to 1 Mil. subs
>Stops watching her
>Still keep subbing just to own the western haters
>Get her to 2 Mil. subs
>Kobo barely has 5k ccv
Cringe fans. ID 3 is a great gen and yet Indos don't care about them. They just like throwing Kobo's big sub count around

>> No.56503014

>>56502529
>best singer in EN
That's a very low bar. But I do agree gen3 has the best EN singers so far, but it's FWMC. Nerissa's karaoke was pretty bad, and anyone can sound okay in studio with enough audio engineering. Dogs sounded quality live

>> No.56503478

>>56502043
Crazy how Indonesia is apparently the 4th most populated country in the world but you don't hear anything about it. Most people don't even know Indonesia exists. Nothing important comes out of it, and there's no Indonesian international diaspora that exposes the world to their culture. It's like one of those South American or North African countries nobody knows/cares about, but it has a larger population than Russia, Mexico, Japan, etc.

>> No.56503700

>>56502515
Pajeet don't watch anime or vtuber in general and you know this, it's why NijiID outlast NijiIN.

>> No.56503874

>>56501682
>nijisanji opens an ID branch
>hololive decides to open an ID branch too
>nijisanji makes a even worst decision and opens India and Korean branches
>hololive puts on a break and think "are they serious?" and stop at just having a twitter accounts https://twitter.com/hololive_In / https://twitter.com/hololive_kr
>Coco happens
>hololive finally leaves the shadow of mimicking nijisanji and the English branch happens

>> No.56504117

>>56503874
I don't watch Nijisanji at all. Does their Korea branch do okay? If someone told me Hololive was opening a Korea branch I would think that made more sense than ID.

>> No.56504192

>>56503874
You think it ends there?
>nijisanji opens male vtubers audition
>holo opens tempiss audition

>> No.56504453

>>56503478
It's also the biggest muslim country. No one thinks of it when talking about Islam.

>> No.56504632

>>56504453
I don't understand how everyone shits on things like WWE and golf for operating in the islamic world but no one cares that vtubing companies are doing business with these human rights hellholes

>> No.56504652

>>56500076
their real market isn't "indonesians" but chink bloodline. Indonesians can't afford superchat lol

>> No.56504657

>>56504453
Yeah I remember that one.
>"What's the largest Muslim-populated country?
>"Uhhh, Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Egypt?"
>"No, it's Indonesia"
>"Indowhat? What the fuck is an Indonesia?"

>> No.56504681

>>56500076
They watch streams?

>> No.56504948

>>56502321
???
there are plenty of jpop idols who aren't particularly good at singing or dancing, including 48g idols.

>> No.56504974

>>56504117
There is no Korean branch in Nijisanji anymore.

>> No.56505101

>>56504948
Show me a single professional jpop idol who sings like this.
https://youtu.be/KXkeVfSd63g

>> No.56505221

>>56504632
No one cares about "human rights" ever since the west made China their factory

>> No.56505357

>>56502043
Yet indonesians need a fucking visa to be a tourist in Japan, while their brothers Malaysia Singapore etc etc can just jump on a plane and have fun.
I will never not be salty reeeee.

>> No.56505413

>>56505357
Commonwealth privilege. Thanks brits

>> No.56505425

>>56504453
because it's not a totalitarian muslim country
think of it like india
scratch that think Europe for u midwits, with so many different nations and cultures,
that is Indonesia with their different islands and all. there are christians regions buddist regions chinese regions Java regions and saudi level muslim regions

>> No.56505427

>>56505101
tell me how many akb48 member could sing and dance well. do your rep

>> No.56505443

>>56505357
It's the government being retards as usual

>> No.56505654

>>56504652
chink indonesians are still indonesians

>> No.56505659

>>56505425
Last time i heard about your country was about a church getting bombed

>> No.56505690

>>56505425
I am honestly more baffled that hololive official shop didn't fucking deliver to Indonesia buy deliver to Malaysia. Like man that is literally one island

>> No.56505717

>>56505654
No, theyre chinks.

>> No.56505755

>>56505101
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gW5MMWtoD5o
full disclosure she did end up graduating from that group but she's the first one that came to mind

>> No.56505767

>>56503478
Indonesia is just that weird. And its weirdly flexible political sphere didn't help with that

>> No.56505784

>>56504117
failed spectacularly with only one talent having popularity Nun Bora, which was popularity with japanese viewers not korean.
she graduated "for school reasons" and later debuted in Vspo
nijisanji korea and nijisanji id got merged into nijisanji as a whole before Anycolor's IPO so they could have a better looking presentation with only "NIJISANJI & NIJISANJI EN"
Luckly for hololive ID, the EN branch success spread to them when ID2 debuted

>> No.56505795

>>56505659
not indo but kek
that's the muslim ISIS region for ya.

>> No.56505815

>>56500581
Yagoo literally said it was because animes are popular and well established in Indonesia. Keep dreaming your shit brand matter Nijifag.

>> No.56505934

>>56505755
So what you saying is
you don't need talent to be an idol...

>> No.56505936

>>56500076
Because anime and Japanese culture is really popular in ID

>> No.56505964

>>56504652
the non-muslims are quite successful there
it can't be region can it looks at most muslim nations
yup.. it is

>> No.56506023

>>56505755
That's not quite as bad as Shiori but she does drop into the same "breathy lyric reading" kind of singing in parts, so I will accept this.

>> No.56506040

>>56502515
>India or Brazil
please god no

>> No.56506107

>>56503478
>4th most populated country in the world
sometimes I forget when a country is over 100million they are already in top 15 by population

>> No.56506120

>>56506040
At least they would get quarantined into their own branch and stop shitting up our chats
please visit brazil

>> No.56506129

>>56502886
Cringe country frfr

>> No.56506165

>>56505934
some idols are good at singing and dancing but those aren't the only talents in the world. idols are also entertainers, radio hosts, comedians, models, actresses, etc. etc.
the appeal of being an idol fan is following the journey of a girl you find charming and seeing how she grows and gets better through hard work and perseverance.

>> No.56506188

>>56500076
>strong weeb culture
>better at English
>more diaspora worldwide
>is known more worldwide than Indog
>more JP diaspora here than Indog
>closer geographically & culturally with JP
Cover should've opened HoloPH instead of ID. What a waste.

>> No.56506288

>>56506120
>they would get quarantined into their own branch and stop shitting up our chats
you know you would think that would be the case but if my experience with mmos has taught me anything its that even if a dedicated south/central american option is available they will inevitably end up in NA servers speaking Portuguese there regardless for some reason

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56506295

>>56500076
>indonesian flag is just the polish flag rotated 360 degrees

o kurwa

>> No.56506308

>>56504652
nah more like because most Indonesian are impulse spender, they will take debt if it to support their oshi. as example most kpop stan ain't chink and I know some people that literally take absurd interest online loan just to buy concert ticket.

>> No.56506381

>>56503874
Now Yagoo can't disband the burden branch because muh unity while Riku had them kicked out a long time ago

>> No.56506460

>>56506188
holo niji akb48 prove that id > ph

>> No.56506480

>>56506188
>wanting a branch full of Millie
Oh god imagine the horror

>> No.56506487

>>56503874
>hololive finally leaves the shadow of mimicking nijisanji
>Tempiss

>> No.56506546

>>56506460
Didn't AKB open a PH branch and it was a disaster?

>> No.56506551

>>56502515
as a Brazilian, we are the worst venture you can think of
our currency lost so much value in less than 10 years
our regulations are extremely bureaucratic that Nintendo fucking left brazil

>> No.56506558

>>56502321
>he keeps hiring people who can't sing or dance
you mean exactly like akb?

>> No.56506575

>>56502886
>>56506129
yeah the ID fanbase is terrible, always waxing lyrical about how they don't have "idol culture" yet if you open /warkop/ half the posts there are about "whores" and "cucks" and "cocksleeves".

>> No.56506578

>>56506487
That problem has now been corrected with Omega Tranny gone and Jap-sama in.

>> No.56506738

>>56506188
>Cover should've opened HoloPH instead of ID. What a waste.
Remind me what happened to MNL48 again???

>> No.56506772

>>56506460
>>56506480
As if ind*gs are any bettrr
>>56506575
They are ungrateful and full of schizo. I dont know why yagoo even bothered investing in them since he said that ind*gs dont pay

>> No.56506808

>>56506558
I'm gonna level with you, I don't watch 3DPD

>> No.56506818

>>56506188
The true SEA VTubers Powerscaling:

TH >(power gap)> ID >> PH >> MY

>> No.56506868

>>56506808
then don't speak about idols or mention them to make a point

>> No.56506882

>>56506738
???? They still exist retard

>> No.56506931

>>56504632
Indonesia isn't ruled by bonesaw wielding autocrats.

>> No.56506933

>>56506818
*VN>TH

>> No.56506960
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56506960

>>56506188
Oh hell no, absolutely no flips

>> No.56506962

>>56505357
Got colonized by the wrong country, hence no Commonwealth privileges.

>> No.56507082

>>56506962
The birts actually conquered us for a few years when the dutch fell to napoleon....But they returned us when napoleon was defeated.

>> No.56507091

>>56506772
They are, upcoming ID 4th gen is the proof

>> No.56507157

>>56507091
Cant wait for ID to dilute themselves and become 3 views.

>> No.56507181

>>56506188
But if they're better at English they can just watch HoloEN.

>> No.56507221

>>56507157
Sure pagpag boy

>> No.56507260

I fucking hate Indogs so much it hurts.

>> No.56507267

>>56507181
I would watch HoloEN if they hire a Filipino

>> No.56507366

>>56507267
>>56507181
Millie... you ended up in the wrong place...

>> No.56507381

>>56507260
Fucking same. This board became shit ever since holoID debuted.

>> No.56507389

>>56506868
I thought it was a safe bet that people hired to sing and dance would be able to sing and dance. My mistake

>> No.56507404

>>56506308
doesn't change the fact that chink is their real market for "idol thing" in Indonesia. nobody care with kpop except woman

>> No.56507535

>>56503874
>hololive finally leaves the shadow of mimicking nijisanji
They still do it from time to time, only difference is that Nijisanji's half baked ideas(that are good in theory) are made into actually good with Hololive.

>> No.56507559

>>56500076
Dirt cheap, as well as a good relationship and proximity to Japan.

>> No.56507596

>>56507389
Idols are there to go on a journey of self improvement and increasing success the fans can support them on.

>> No.56507692

>>56500076
dirt cheap, good access to internet, decent interest in weebshit. Mixture of EN and ID. A lot of people there are learning japanese as well.

>> No.56507708

>>56500076
Rather have Indonesia than any other SEAmonkey country

>> No.56507750

>>56500198
did you mean monaco anon?

>> No.56507819

>>56507389
it's true that singing and dancing is part of the job but it doesn't stop there.
there are plenty of actual singers in japan, if people were exclusively looking for good vocals they'd have plenty to choose from outside of idols.
idols have different things to offer, so there's value in an idol that can't sing but can do other things or is charming in other ways. same can be said about hololive girls.

>> No.56507850

>>56507596
>to go on a journey of self improvement
that's Japanese view on idol. Korean industry potray idols as literal perfect being

>> No.56507865

>>56504117
You have to remember that the population of Indonesia is 5 times bigger than that of South Korea and with the Japanese language taught in schools and culture there being pretty popular, it was an easily accessible market to enter.
Korea is a different story. Japanese vtubers are discussed more at DC Inside (the equivalent of 4chan or 5chan/5ch for Koreans) than Korean ones. Koreans already had their own style of avatar streamers (albeit static images) so a lot of the original fanbase of vtubers were Korean weebs who learned Japanese or post-MYTH, were people that had learned English in school.
This is slowly starting to change but direction is debatable. While Kizuna Ai and Hololive were the influences of the first generation of Korean vtubers, the second gen is split between people who were inspired by Hololive/Nijisanji/Nijisanji KR and from the VRChat streamers who took the role of the aforementioned Korean avatar streamers. The biggest corpo in the market follows the later and was seeded from regular and fans of the biggest VRChat streamer Korea and do a lot of generic Twitch content like react streams.
The scene there is also very volitile. Nijisanji KR had two explosive incidents related to bullying that turned good will against them and killed growth in their own market aside from the members who switched to Japanese. There's been tons of indie related drama, some of the biggest indies have been outed as being terrible people.

>> No.56507891

>>56504652
No, they are all working-class indogs, with a mix of native Indonesians and Chinks, approximately in a 50/50 ratio.

>> No.56507934

>>56507850
what country did hololive originate in?
take your time.

>> No.56508170

>>56507381
go back newfaggot. holoid debuted before this board even exist

>> No.56508237

>>56507535
lol except for the males. it's their one big gaping L.

>> No.56508394

These people are poor yet they would rather support their Oshii than eat for 3 weeks

>> No.56508530

>>56500463
>>56501437
absolute state of idiotic newfags

>> No.56508543 [DELETED] 

>>56505815
I love the fact Faggo threw a bone to these subhumans, and they became his loyal 24/7 seething army.
You subhuman monkeys truly have fucking nothing to live for.
Anyways, your post is dogshit, Anime is well stablished literally all over the world.

>> No.56508671

>yuropoors, SEAneighbors and huefags are seething
feels good to be indoCHAD

>> No.56508883

>>56508671
Hey, only burgers get to call them yuropoors. Much like only yuros get to call us mutts.

>> No.56509244

>>56508671
Indofaggots are seanigggers retards. Really hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Fucking underage board. Worse than Reddit.

>> No.56509302

>>56501278
The Muslims kicked their ass

>> No.56509349

>>56509244
You must be 18 years or older and be able to read english in order to post in this board.

>> No.56509375

>>56508883
I'll give them a pass in exchange for the cunny

>> No.56509406

>>56500076
It isn't. Philippines is unironically more important than that muslim shithole.

>> No.56509624

>>56509406
>pinoys
roru, rumao even
Who gives a shit, they are still seanogs.

>> No.56509709

>>56500076
I would rather have china than this irrelevant country

>> No.56509853

>>56509302
No, it was the nuke.

>> No.56509896

>>56509406
lol no. none of the SEA countries are important. the only important shit on that side of the world is Taiwan.

>> No.56510119

>The seethe
It feels good being inGOD, there will be no HoloEU, HoloPH, HoloKR, HoloBR

>> No.56510176

>>56502515
>Brazil
FUCK NO, lets forget logistic and monetary shit for a second here and focus on the cultural aspect: yes, weeb shit if very popular here, BUT, idolshit and kayfabe simply will not work, Brazilian music taste is very insular and people see no point in 'hiding' under a (actual) mask when it comes to fights and streaming. If YAGOO ever decide to do, say, a Hololive LatAm, it might work, but only if Brazil is NOT included. If there is a way for Hololive to work here, it needs to be in a completely different and strong approach and that's a huge risk.

>> No.56510219

>>56508671
>>56510119
Is this how you guys cope living in a shithole? By pretending to be superior to those living in better countries?

>> No.56510421

>>56509896
>SEA
>Taiwan

>> No.56510476

脳ある鷹は爪を隠す

>> No.56510504

>>56510219
>better countries
Jews are illegal in indonesia.
Lgbt is mental illness in indonesia.
Communism is death sentence in indonesia.
Feminism is a good joke in indonesia.
If your country is better than indonesia then you'd have no trouble to tell the class what's your country, right?

>> No.56510522

>JKT48 is the most popular AKB48 group sister right now, BNK48 is recline too hard.
>somehow has strong ties with japan despite their history. their law also very weak, so it easier to open business in indonesia.
>weeb culture is strong in indonesia
>holoID has higher ccv median than nijiCN

>> No.56510545

>>56510219
cope, there will be no holoPH

>> No.56510561

>>56505755
Is this the absolute worst you could find? Still not quite the holo SOUL levels.

>> No.56510623

GO FUCK YOURSELF INDOGS

>> No.56510650

>>56510504
>Lgbt is mental illness in indonesia
So Reine gets harrassed for being in a yuri ship, right?

>> No.56510689

>>56510504
Singapore.

>> No.56510708

>>56510504
>Indonesia
>pros: based as fuck laws
>cons: filled with Indonesians
Life isn't fair

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>>56510522
>>somehow has strong ties with japan despite their history.
I think, people who keep seething about a war that happened way before they're born are the odd ones here.

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56510746

jesus christ this thread stinks

>> No.56510803

>>56510746
Indonesians literally having sex with kobo wife in these slums rn

>> No.56510907

>>56510504
All of this while also being the free-est country in SEA. Like, what kind of open air prison the other countries are running?

>> No.56510919

>>56510746
Holy mother of slums

>> No.56510971

>>56510746
>goys look at da slums!
You can count countries w/o slums woth your toes.
And yes, burgerland have slums too.
I think it's way worse than indonesia.
Like, have you guys ever been to florida?

>> No.56511046

>>56510650
The rules stop applying when you have enough money. Reine has enough money that the millionaires in other branches still comment on how rich she is. Can't go into any detail without it being dox, but she's effectively untouchable in Indonesia.

>> No.56511107

>>56510971
Have YOU ever been to florida? Unless youre a bottom-of-the-barrel poorfag, you wont live in slums that bad

>> No.56511243

>>56506188
>>56506960
Finally, the dream of Koko about a Mexican branch would be accomplished.

>> No.56511254

>>56511107
Of course, we're talking about slums here, retard-kun.
Like, I took extra precautions when i step out from my car so that i don't step on some homeless people's shits on florida.

>> No.56511262

>>56510746
>paved road
Eh, could be worse

>> No.56511310

>>56511046
>yuri not allowed unless you have fuckoff money
Yep, it's a shithole.

>> No.56511335

>>56500076
>vtubing
The only people watching Twitch are Koreans or SEA anymore.

>> No.56511410

>>56511262
and brick houses too!

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56511447

>>56510746
Indoslums I kneel

>> No.56511499

>>56510746
Is this NY?

>> No.56511576

>>56511499
I imagine NY would have bigger road, this one can only fit two cars in some parts.

>> No.56511770

>>56502321
Retard who doesn't know what an idol journey is, you don't start from the top dumbass, if that is your requirement then suisei might aswell not exist.

>> No.56511913

>>56500076
4th largest country in the world and anime is more popular there than it is in white countries. There's not a lot of other options. China lives in a bubble, I assume class issues cause South/West Asia to be irrelevant, I'm not sure what South Korea's excuse is.

>> No.56511978

>>56507381
>>56508170
>T. Retarded jealous pagpag wrote this.

>> No.56511984

This thread reeks sheeting pagpag eater

>> No.56512031

>>56510504
Funny thing is 99.9% of the muslims will never meet or even know what the jews looks like yet they fucking hate them like they hate pigs.

>> No.56512063

>>56512031
What islam indoctrination does to muslims

>> No.56512127

>>56500076
Probably because the country has a large number of English speakers.
And Moona’s big tits.

>> No.56512159

Why isn't Taiwan a valid market? They're a well populated country, east Asian culture, exposed to anime and rich.

>inb4 ccp

>> No.56512168

>>56500076
Funny how HoloID was on a trajectory similar to nijiID before ID3

>> No.56512203

Yeah, luckily Yagoo decided to open branch in ID. Imagine Hololive version of Milie and hololive version of Millie yab

>> No.56512219

>>56512159
Before 2021: HoloCN fans would not be happy
After 2021: chinks would spambot and probably dox them

>> No.56512286

>>56500076
Despite the closeness, i think its 10x better than flip i guess

>> No.56512321

>>56512203
Millie is not a the entirety of the philippines. There are a lot of better indie vtubers there.

>> No.56512468

>>56512321
>There are a lot of better indie vtubers there.
Better person maybe. But by tangible matrix, Millie is the creme of the crop.

>> No.56512546

>>56506188
the phillipines is the brazil of asia

>> No.56512634

>>56504117
It did better than the ID branch. Except one of their talents was fucking the Korean management and got the entire branch axed and herself fired/sued by Anykara for defrauding the company.

ex-NijiKR has been mostly absorbed into NijiJP with most of the talents being fluent in Japanese. Ha Yun, Seffyna, Nari, and Nagi all do alright and collab with JP a lot. They're basically JP talents.

The ones like Hada and Hari who can't speak Japanese fluently are kinda fucked though.

>> No.56512712

>>56512031
Don't care jews are anti christ

>> No.56512723

>>56512321
Honestly no, there are no good flip vtubers. Their entire culture is toxic and self-destructive. Flips only respect being hotheaded and confrontational so "seiso cute girls" don't exist. All their women are like Millie pretty much.

>> No.56512734

>>56512203
Millie had a free nepo-pass into Hololive if she wanted it. She chose NijiEN instead because she wouldn't join without Enna. I'll never stop being thankful that things turned out how they did. Hololive dodged two atom bombs that day.

>> No.56513048

>>56512734
>Millie had a free nepo-pass into Hololive if she wanted it.
nigga really
>The Not Indonesian has a freepass because retard Moona likes her

>> No.56513178

>>56513048
Considering Moona offered to vouch for her to get in? Yes. Don't pretend like ID doesn't have the sway to get someone into Hololive either. Because they already did.

>> No.56513443

>>56502515
>Brazil
Saint Seiya vtuber might works there.

>> No.56513553
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>>56503478
>Nothing important comes out of it
Nasi goreng is kinoludo

>> No.56513640

>>56512723
I like Skye Shinryu.

>> No.56513816

>>56512634
Jesus christ is Niji ever not in the middle of a scandal?

>> No.56513910

>>56513816
Like right now?

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>>56506381
>burden branch
>perform better than NijiEN
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.56514013

>>56504652
>Indonesians can't afford superchat lol
You say that but their superchats are literally thousands of dollars worth due to the gambling sites using streamers for promotion
I'm surprised it hasn't happened for the ID girls yet

>> No.56514088

>>56500076
>muslim nation
>lots of youngsters that are breaking free
>not fucked up like their "cousins" in the middle easst
>still fucked up though

>> No.56514131

>>56513910
Are people done being mad about Selen's tournament and imminent graduation already?

>> No.56514309

>>56514013
It happened once to Kobo, but they were using Sociabuzz

>> No.56514361

>>56512723
>Flips only respect being hotheaded and confrontational so "seiso cute girls" don't exist.
As a Flip they do exist but they're seen as weak and submissive by millennials onwards. It's the fault of modern western garbage idealism, since the "ideal" Filipina is meant to be seiso cute in demeanor, the Maria Clara.

>> No.56514522

>>56514309
That's what I mean, Sociabuzz
I think it should happen more often because I've seen it happen loads of times to various big ID streamers before
Getting millions of Rp per month is no joke, as long as you don't say the name of the donator then the ID govt will turn a blind eye

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>>56500743
How can a man be so based?

>> No.56514569

>>56514004
>muh ccv numbers
show holoid merch revenue monkey

>> No.56515077

>>56514569
> muh merch number
Show me in which site they posted merch number other than holoID's Tokopedia

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>>56502515
>India
hey remember when Nijisanji made NijiIN?

>> No.56515366

>>56515304
They would have thrived under holo.

>> No.56515382

>>56514569
>muh two percent merch
HAHAHAHAHA REALY NIGGA HAHAHAHA

>> No.56515449

Man I wonder how much money Coco cost Cover in the long run

>> No.56515594

>>56513816
Anon wasn't entirely accurate with his summary of the Niji KR situation. I think I might be missing a couple things but:
Ara fucking management was unconfirmed but speculated. The particular manager was known from leaks to have been the manager to take the side of Moarin in that debacle immediately after NijiKRs debut. tldr she the defacto head of the agency Anycolor bought when NijiKR was formed to seed a fanbase. she was outed as a bully who had made national news for almost beating a classmate to death. when her agency was merging with NijiKR, she screwed over a lot of indies who had joined it like Alice Mana with terrible contracts
From the leaked conversations with Yuya, Ara bragged about leveraging whatever relationship punitively against members of the branch she disliked, especially those who pandered to non-Koreans. she openly shit talked and spread dox about branch mates and indies in their conversations. After Yuya graduated she dropped a big Google Doc outlining their conversations but not any stuff about NijiKR that would have violated the companies NDA.
Ara sued Yuya for defamation over it (reputational damage counts as defamation, true or not; same as in Japan) along making a list of claims such as that Yuya was actually one who was harassing her, was stalking her, was threatening violence her, etc.
When the leaks happened, her other NijiKR turned her into a pariah overnight. Didn't mention her name, completely skipped drawing her in anything for the upcoming branch anniversary. In the fallout, Anycolor closed the branch, half the members whose to graduate and half stayed behind and were moved to JP.
One day with no warning several months after the merge, Anycolor completely unpersoned her without notice. She was completely scrubbed from the list of members, from the group photos of members.

>> No.56516065

>>56508530
dumbass

>> No.56516089

>>56513910
This you guys? >>56515448

>> No.56516260

>>56514131
speak of the devil
>>56516089

>> No.56516454

>>56502321
It's like Selen without the cuteness, what the fuck

>> No.56516520

>>56505755
She has a cute smile, so it's forgivable...I'm gonna gosling

>> No.56516542

>>56510522
>>56500743
>This
Indonesia is dirt cheap and one of the third world, well not anymore, they have Higher GDP that they are no longer considered as poor. BUT, foreign buying power is still greater on Indonesia, Ironically, than some Third world countries. Controlled by a weak government and laughable democracy, Indonesia had poor laws and restriction. It's the most black legalized market out there next to Thailand. No wonder Canada, EU and JP exploits the nation.

>> No.56516574

>>56510504
Holy shit I should go live in Indonesia. How's the English speaking population?

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>>56515449
If you are referring to pulling out of China, most talents barely felt it. Only Fubuki truly suffered on that one. Here's an old image that should help answer your question though. The TL;DR is that China was only worth about 9.4% of Cover's revenue. Which means, considering the size of the country, they were the stingiest fucks alive. China wasn't worth keeping around. For posterity, here's the copypasta usually posted with the image:

Repost, because a good /biz/nessman would never leave free (you)s on the ground, and a good /biz/nessman also hates China to their core.
>Here's the chart of numbers for the main HoloJP girls, August of 2020, the last month I can reliably pull data that wouldn't be thrown off by the controversy. I'll convert it into USD, because that's the only currency that matters.
>If you take the Bilibili revenue total and convert it to USD, it means that Bilibili donated $135,240 in August, 9.4% of the total revenue for the month.
>Now, I'll use a superchat tracking site to find out EN's numbers. In fact, let's just do one, Calliope Mori, just because she's the one that goes on /hlgg/ enough to take a shitpost and put it in a song.
>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg/superchat
>This site has the last month of spachas, and from that one month alone, Calli has made $174,983. If we take the data for all the HoloEN girls and pool it together, that becomes $574,667.
>In the one month period since they have had Superchats active, HoloEN has lapped the donations generated by all of Bilibili for all of HoloJP four times over.
>Keep in mind that, going by the initial stats and converting to USD, All of HoloJP, Bilibili and Youtube combined, made $1,443,027 dollars in August 2020.
>TL;DR: HoloEN fucking obliterated an entire country's revenue generation within the same time period

>> No.56516717

>>56516642
Aqua was more popular on bilibili, had an episode on depression when the coco haachama happened.

>> No.56516797

>>56516642
ID was by far the most generous in donation,
contributing 62% of overseas profit towards cover

>> No.56516889

>>56516797
Huh? last time I remember superchats were not a thing on ID and when the first ID gen debut they had to substitute streamlabs.

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Cover pick Indonesia and that's enough for me to know that Indonesia is the best country

>> No.56516993

>>56516717
Relative to everyone else, yeah she was bigger. But it "only" made up 22% of her superchat income. Compared to FBK losing a whopping 57% of hers. The reason you didn't see the chinks mourning for Fubuki was because she made it known in advance that she stood by Coco by going out to meet her during the suspension. That was the moment when they knew Cover was siding with Coco over China. So instead of trying to pretend FBK was being held hostage, like they did with Aqua, they consider her a traitor and spammed her chat and hashtags for close to a year.

>> No.56517029

>>56500076
Alright, so here's a great idea.
Cambodian branch within each corpo.

>> No.56517194

>>56516642
>>56516993
Not defending any Insects, but this calculation is just wrong. If you considered back /jp/ days membership and superchats weren't and a thing and monetization was an event closer to a new costume and 3D showcase. CN probably donated more if you consider most girls doesn't stream on bilibili but they still do donate on youtube. Yes, even if you try to maneuver it with mental gymnastic they still had their vpns and most profits was done by CN and JP.

>> No.56517480

>>56517029
Cant wait for the bug eating stream

>> No.56517545

>>56517480
Hell yeah, fried and seasoned tarantula!

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>>56510650
No, Yuri is not as haram ad yaoi anon please educated yourself. And I am fucking serious

>> No.56517806

>>56500076
Do you think Poland will start a war with Indonesia with copying their flag? I would.

>> No.56517933

>>56517806
That would be some funny shit. Imagine that Indonesia wins and claims territory with Europe.

>> No.56517977

>>56517933
>within

>> No.56518049

>>56517806
you know poland has no navy right?

>> No.56518275

>>56518049
So which country would actually win?

>> No.56518319

>>56518275
Indonesia would just zerg rush them

>> No.56518376

>>56517806
poland flag is flipped down, u meant monaco?

actually monaco flag is copying indonesia
their flag is from 1800, while indo came from 13th century, majapahit empire.

>> No.56518495

>>56518319
At that point, would Turkey absorb them or would they form an alliance?

>> No.56518564

>>56518275
no one, because Poland can't get to indonesia and Indonesia can't get to Poland. You might as well have declared war on Mars for all the good it would do

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>>56500076

>> No.56518628

>>56518564
How many mosques are in Poland?

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>> No.56519156

>>56502321
dumbass, idol agencies dont hire people who can sing and dance, while that is a plus and can help. they all start the same with training. agencies produce idols, they dont hire idols. thats the whole point as to why everyone is rooting for their oshi to do her best.

>> No.56519240

>>56503874
niji left their foreign branches to the sidelines to fend for themselves, no promo or anything. worse yet is when they renamed IN to English then back. then merged everyone to the main branch anyway. its a mess

>> No.56519427

>>56518717
slava ukraini

>> No.56519521

why theres so much pagpag eaters in this thread

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>>56515449
It wasn't even Coco's fault. it's the bugs fault themselves. they literally attempted a hostile takeover of Hololive. mainly HoloCN, but if Cover bowed to them, eventually they'll be crippled to China's fit (it's China basic practice of foreign businesses entering their territory) Coco was just their convenient target because she was the only american Holo at the time and everybody knows China hates Americans the most
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/5044878/#q5044878

>> No.56519798

>>56502515
nah, india is more populous and would bring in more viewers sure, but they never spend money online and theyre even worse than newfags and seamonkeys

>> No.56519832

>>56510176
isnt that just LatAm in general?

>> No.56520005

>>56505101
I already had low expectations for her as an EN but jfc

>> No.56520294

>>56505784
>she graduated "for school reasons" and later debuted in Vspo
even though Riku could manifest her ability as a liver she pursued a life outside vtubing?!

>> No.56520298

>>56503014
>Scuffed half-hour karaoke during the dipshit relay
>Two full-featured karaoke streams
Gee, I wonder why Nerissa's karaoke wasn't as good? Noone will watch her second one tonight at this rate

>> No.56520318

>>56516993
>But it "only" made up 22% of her superchat income. Compared to FBK losing a whopping 57% of hers

Aqua's 22% was still bigger than FBK 57% because Aqua was on top of SC back in 2020. That 22% was also 2nd in bilibili as well (iirc).

>> No.56520395

>>56519521
Because they're seething about the impossibility of holoPH.

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56520569

>>56500076
>multilingual
>cheap
>japanese business connections
The idea is to get poor third-worlders to extract money from people in rich countries because of currency exchange rates and different costs of living. An ID chuuba can get by on very little compared to anyone living in the west or Japan.
(Of course, indonesians /here/ think otherwise because it damages their national pride.)

>> No.56520677

>>56506188
Honestly, as much as I dislike indos, filipinos must be the worst that SEA has to offer. I don't think I've ever met or watched someone from the Philippines that I have liked. (Half of that is due to the retarded "pinoy pride" sentiment. Nobody fucking cares.)

>> No.56520751

>>56506818
>TH
Is that Thailand? If so, I agree. I've never met a thai that wasn't super-polite and nice to speak to. It's like night and day compared to the others.

>> No.56520799

>>56520677
>>56520751
Have any experience with Cambodian or Vietnamese girls?

>> No.56520945

>>56520799
numba wan fucky?

>> No.56521000

>>56520945
What?

>> No.56521015

>>56520799
Never been to Vietnam, but Cambodia seemed similar to Thailand to me. Both are very poor countries and you have people still getting mangled by undetonated bombs and land mines in the Cambodia. The women seemed both polite and cheerful, even living under relatively harsh conditions. (The men too for that matter.) I understand that it's probably different if you're a native though, us tourists only glimpse the surface level.
Maybe their different temperaments have something to do with religion. Buddhism is big in Thailand and Cambodia, while the abrahamic religions have a strong foothold in Indonesia and the Philippines.

>> No.56521106

>>56520395
I'd cringe at HoloPH if it happens. But it still baffles me how HoloID got 3 generations.

>> No.56521144

>>56516642
>>56516993
It's incredibly naive to think bilibili was the only CN income. First, the whole Coco Taiwa drama happened because of CN viewers using VPNs to watch YouTube streams. They were a significant portion of what's said to be "YouTube income" in that table too. Second, they had actual IRL events in China among other things, stuff that wasn't even happening in JP, it showed who was truly investing big money into Hololive. Not to mention vtuber boom in the West started from Azur Lane collab which is what enabled shorts/clips like Scatman etc. to hit YouTube algo.

>> No.56521344

Yagoo should just disband HoloID and debut HoloTH and HoloES instead. You get better streamers while still having the advantages ID have like low expenses.

>> No.56521379

>>56521015
Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds nice.

>> No.56521752

>>56520751
It might raise some eyebrows but let's do HoloAxis with a German, a Japanese, an Italian, a Thai and as a bonus a Finn as a co-belligerent member.

>> No.56521807

>>56521752
Wait, how was Thailand part of the Axis powers?

>> No.56521810

>>56521344
nijiseethe

>> No.56521863

>>56521807
I don't know if they were officially an Axis state but they were allies of Japan so some consider them being part of Axis.

>> No.56521884

>>56521752
You forgot the Romanian who will be in charge of acquiring assets from competition.

>> No.56521967

>>56521863
I had no idea

>> No.56522327

>>56521106
Law of averages and the human condition, along with decent cross-culture pollination.

>> No.56523123

>>56521752
Don't forget Taiwan.

>> No.56523182

>>56520569
you spoken like a true indog, indog.

>> No.56523407

>>56515366
Thats some hard copium you are smoking right there anon

>> No.56523424

>>56511913
>I'm not sure what South Korea's excuse is.
They historically hate Japan?
But I think a HoloKR will unironically work there, 4th Gen have a collab cafe and all there even without Kaichou.

>> No.56523496

>>56505755
Yeah, that's bad, but she's cute.

>> No.56523517

>>56500076
JAKARTA

>> No.56523557

>>56521810
You have no rebuttal because you know it's the truth.

>> No.56523568

>>56505934
It's about doing your best. If you're always doing your best you can have thousands of fans cheering you on.

>> No.56524143

>>56500198
Anon is just from Australia

>> No.56524186

>>56500076
the guinea pig

>> No.56524276

>>56523517
No, we went by boat

>> No.56524389

>>56500076
>fourth most populous nation
As the fourth most populous nation, it's surely the fourth greatest nation, they must appeal to such an important market.

>> No.56524394

>>56523557
>Make subjective (and retarded) suggestion
>It's the truth
what did he mean by this?

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INDONESIA MENTIONED

>> No.56524938

It's simple. Indonesian girls are very cute.

>> No.56525260

>>56524394
that means the anon is retarded pagpagseeth

>> No.56527077

>>56500076
It's an entire densely populated archipelago of Japanese pop culture dickrider schizos.

>> No.56527873

>>56500076
The amount of saltiness in this thread is amazing, just go outside and eat shit, europoor

>> No.56528280

>>56500076
ID is just a testing ground. Now that the market has proven to be worthless no other company dares to touch it. Ever wonder why there's no idol, Vspo, Vshojo ID? Heck even Nijisanji disbanded theirs

>> No.56528375

>>56528280
Nijiseethe

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>All these seethe toward the branch that is literally doing its own thing
>Most of it is made by Seanigg themselves
Even though I don't like HoloID, the degree of jealousy is just pathetic.

>> No.56529229

>>56502321
Technology and production trickery can make anybody's singing passable, but bad dancing still can't be saved without using paid dancers.

>> No.56529362

>>56523557
Niji gave up on Indonesia while Holo was able to monopolize the region, only a seething Niji would want ID disbanded

>> No.56529904

>>56502515
>Most populous but with shit GDP
You just described India

>> No.56530007

>>56519832
anything bad you know about "Online Latam" add a 1.5x multiplier exclusively for Brazil

>> No.56531147

>>56500076
Big community clipper just second to china a few years ago

>> No.56534103

>>56513553
Bro, I had never heard of that until you just posted it. I'm sure Indonesia has a lot of kino stuff but they just don't promote themselves anywhere nor do anything to export their culture.

>> No.56534183

>>56527873
>europoor
nah. probably just other SEA anons.

>> No.56534363

>>56528280
holy newfag, do more reps.

actually prob just seething pagpag lovers

>> No.56535197

The Kiaranus

>> No.56535442

>>56500581
>Indonesia is a terrible horrible choice
Retard

>> No.56536685

>>56509302
Cope, Abdul

>> No.56537003

>>56502515
>Most populous but with shit GDP
India is an even more backwater place than Indonesia. One look at their GDP per capita and PPP should tell you everything you need to know. Enough with this "large market" bullshit. Pajeets have no money to afford anything beyond food and have no developed infrastructure to actually carry out vtubing. Finally, why the hell would we ever want more of these creatures infecting our space? They've already ruined most of the internet and are by far worse than SEAmonkeys or Chinks.

>> No.56537228

>>56505425
>think of it like india
So even more underdeveloped and poor? Are you sure you want this comparison?

>> No.56537895

>>56508394
Indogs are the true Unichads

>> No.56537913

>>56520298
You're acting like she can't set her own schedule. Why did she wait two weeks to do a full karaoke?

>> No.56539161

>>56500076
it's not

to the extent it is though, it helps to have the 4th largest population of any country on earth

>> No.56543412

>>56500198
lol

>> No.56545207

>>56520395
I don't think even Filipino anons want a holoPH.

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