/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Shion is not very good...

>>56467320
Let me guess, you "need" more?

>>56467417
Her main weapon is kinda good since explosions from Bomb stamp can also proc the homing missiles, but everything else are a wreck.

>>56467320
guys really live in apartments like this and don't see any issue

>>56467417
if you max the black holes, the garlic, and get her a BL fujoshi, she becomes ridiculously cheated for the endless mode. i used to main her before i started using irys.

>>56467320
That's my place wtf

what's the best set of collabs for endless on a tankier character like korone?
jingis, snowflower sake, ???

dodge or dodge-reward needs to be revamped or scaled to amount of enemies - this is already possible using mechanics from mio's mama skill for example.

Show me your cursed interior design.

>>56467734
>Black Magic deals a metric ton of damage and gives capability to quickly traverse out of sticky situations.
>Garlic gives her the capability to skip most special oriented items, favouring a variety of either ranged or multishot options
>Beetle turns her into a MSGK GOD.
lmao, your playstyle is a wreck.

>>56468509
msgk gives me headache from the sudden jarring teleports

Hit me with your food opinions. I like the Veggie Burger.

The more I try to do 3 hard with random characters, the more I'm convinced you need some fandom levels just for the stats and to speed up the first collab by not spending levels on skills.

>>56467369
Give it to me straight, fellow Mikopi! How is she in 0.6?

>>56468681
I just take manta soup when I'm going for a challenge run or fruit salad when I'm farming for coins

>>56468681
Gura's really enjoying that burger, huh...
I like the pufferfish meal

best character for doing a no-skills run?

Is Devil Hat good on anyone? I’m considering it on Subaru to equalize her baseball a bit but it might just be a stupid idea.

Playing as other girls who I'm not fans of has made me like them a little more

>>56469039
Literally anyone on stage 1.

>>56469039
Doesn't matter if you want to do just one run for the achievement. Any character with upgrades will slap stage 1 without issues.

>>56468791
I managed it with half of the ID girls with Fandom turned off, since I GRank 21'd them all instantly but didn't want to be given random Skills I didn't even know yet.
Just prioritize survivability & avoid items that don't immediately help you, like Study Glasses & Halu. Once you pass it enough times to know what to expect when it naturally gets easier.

>>56469067
For an AOE DPS build maybe, since everything dies before reaching you. But at that point you could use the slot for something more optimal.

Is there ever a situation where I should take Lab Coat over Glasses or Halu? It feels super weak compared to either, and especially weak compared to both.

>>56468791
You do. The 5-10 minute period especially will absolutely crush a character who's not on the 2nd gachikoi rank.

>>56468863
Doesn't seem like anything got changed.

If I'm understanding the scoring right, prioritizing killing as many enemies as possible is the best way to maximize points. So staying ahead of the curve and killing Yagoo up to minute 40+ is the best way to earn points. But how do you do it? Is there a decided best collab for DPS? I've been using Holy Fire and it's very strong but if there's a better one I would love to know.

Been running Gura with:
>Holy Fire
>Absolute Wall
>Broken Dreams
>Rap Dog
>Lamy Water

Obviously Halu and EXP glasses are a must, I also like Headphones and both anvil items, but my sixth item is still undecided as well. Not sure between more EXP, survivability, or something like Hope Soda for more DPS.

>>56468509
>Black Magic deals a metric ton of damage and gives capability to quickly traverse out of sticky situations.
What sticky situations are we talking here? Putting a portal and running 2 screens away then teleporting back while missing all the mobs to kill for exp? Trying to run away from Yagoo?
>Garlic gives her the capability to skip most special oriented items, favouring a variety of either ranged or multishot options
Similar problem to Curse Ball, if you let it dictate where you're heading you gonna die fast. Or are you suggesting the Idol Costume + Breastplate build so you kill mobs with the reflect damage instead?
>Beetle turns her into a MSGK GOD.
One skill activates every 8s, another is a slow moving autonomous Spider Cooking. It's more of Beetle being broken by doubling the damage of skills than her own skills being good.
Also in order to get the bonus Atk from kusogaki she needs to intentionally ram into the enemies every 15s, else the skill does literally nothing.
But enough about it, how about you post your leaderboard record of her if you have any? That will be more persuasive than whatever you said.

>>56469317
why not membership as last item

>>56469197
It took me a bunch of tries to get a run with Risu going and I spent a few hours today trying to do it with Suisei, everything just goes too fast so if you don't find a speed buff quickly and start working on your first collab ASAP you're pretty much toast.
I wonder if the next update will increase the store stat upgrades past level 10 or if true hell will happen with the new stages.

>>56469246
I managed to do it with Irys without issue
The critical thing is surviving past the 10 minute mark and the dual bosses. Once you get past that the rest of the stage is basically smooth sailing

>>56468791
If I was doing hard stages with a rankless character I'd prioritise getting two weapons for a collab, something that boosts movement speed, and only after all that headphones or something that heals. Helps if you aim for a collab that has extra effects like the snow sake or eldritch horror.

>>56469039
sana
her skills are shit anyway she used to be farming meta cause of the knockback on her orbs

>>56469067
Aqua. Probably homing multihitters like Mumei & Fauna. Zeta cuz of her ranged Skill. Almost-definitely Risu. Azki maybe?
DESU it also depends on what weapons you pick up and collabs you make. Avoid it if you get lots of Melee.

I SUCK at the ID stage.
Any tips on how to deal with the ranged spam in the late stage?

>>56469315
Yeah, no changes to her kit or values in the patch notes. I'm more curious whether the changes in collabs, the new items and super collabs have given her anything new to tinker around with.

>>56469039
akai haato, her skills are dogshit

>>56469522
just don't get hit bro
If you really need help, try using one of the dodgy or tanky characters. Irys, Azki, Fauna, etc

>>56469246
Characters with dodge Skills and/or Bodypillow, I guess. Lemme re-read the descriptions.

>>56469450
I honestly never considered that. Do you think with the greed stamp I can stay on top of anvil upgrades? The damage does seem really good, might try it out.

>>56469039
I used Sana and paired it with a level 1 weapon run. I love the thicc chocolate but her kit and weapon are kind of unspectacular. Anyone can work though. Just remember to have 3 Eliminates (4 if you pair with level 1 weapon) so you don't fuck.
>>56469067
Pair with Stream of Tears and probably Frozen Sea. Dunno what character. Anya comes to mind because Slumber slows everyone but you lose so much damage that there's got to be someone better.

>>56469522
Membership + breastplate + body pillow + bandage + plushie + headphones.

>get on the Leaderboard
>but it's with a chuuba you can't stand watching
Pain Peko

>>56469246
>Is there ever a situation where I should take Lab Coat over Glasses or Halu?
In short, no. At max level the coat generates 4% EXP every 2s, which means you gain a level every 50s provided you don't get hit. Even if we use the best(impossible) scenario of you somehow getting the max level coat at minute 0 and not taking any damage until minute 30 when Yagoo spawn, you only get 36 level out of it. I'm sure as hell either Glasses or Halu already give more than that.

>>56467320
Is Tempus being added eventually?

>>56469586
haachamas poison is ridicoulous at lv3 though

>>56469246
>>56469640
...Wait.
>Glasses: Increase EXP gain by 10%.
Okay yeah makes sense pick up a dorito worth 10 and you actually get 11, easy.
>Coat: Gain 1% EXP every 2 seconds.
...% of what? Not "1 EXP", "1%". 1% of all the EXP you picked up in those 2 seconds? 1% of YOUR current total EXP? This might be broken after all.

>>56469522
play tank cucks. glass cannons are jilted this patch

>>56469860
>Anya comes to mind
Anya's literally the token Melee character lel.
Not that it wouldn't work, just found that irony funny.

>>56470117
1% of however much exp you need to go up a level, so basically you'll always gain a level every 100 seconds

>>56470117
you gain that % of your current level
1% isnt much but at lv3 its 4%
4% of your level is a level every 25 seconds
its actually really fucking strong if you get it first item,, then halu, then glasses
lv200 runs are real ive been getting in the 190s on my haachama score runs

Is kusogaki bracelet worth taking for halu runs?

>>56469984
you're retarded for playing chuubas you hate

>>56470067
her main weapon is so good that you can afk with it. as for her poison, its aight - you still need to spec into it to make it really good and then so are lots of other skills and ive seen better.

>>56470024
>>56470219
>>56470237
Ah % as an increment of the current level bar, not as a direct % of a variable. Narahudo.
I've been avoiding it til I replay Roboco.

>>56470302
Kusogaki Shackle doesn't affect Halu as Halu affects enemies and not yourself. Halu is a no-factor for Kusogaki Shackle.

>>56470302
If you fill the other 4 slots with shit like Asacoco sure I guess.

>get Manager Lv 3
>go to hire the first new worker since Lv 1
>see this
this damn squirrel

>>56470302
>>56470409
Any item that has a red part in the description benefits from the shackles, in regards to Halu it only depends on whether the buffed enemies are giving you too much trouble or not.

>>56470219
>>56470237
Read >>56470024
Common misconception about the coat is that it actually generates the EXP every 2(TWO) seconds, not 1(ONE). It would be an amazing item if it were the latter, but alas the item just take too long to ramp up. 1 free level every 50s PROVIDED you never get hit during that is a joke when average run is ~35 minutes, and if you had Glasses instead of Coat then you would've get more EXP from the dead Yagoos anyway.

>>56470316
But her kit is good...

I thought Ollie revive ability would be overpowered but I guess if you die on endless you just end up being spawnkilled anyway. Kinda weak.

>three fire collabs
>two ice collabs
>one water collab (no stream of tears isn't water)
>one lightning collab
I need more elemental themed collabs that don't overlap each other. I'm trying to go for a theme here.

>>56469740
membership doesn't seem to cost very much but greedstamp make its free

>>56470841
What are your tears made of?

it's happening
https://twitter.com/NewAnhDNH/status/1691680667917300018

>>56468549
this
I hate it when I'm hoarding a big mod to drop a MSGKick and then get teleported to bumfuck nowhere because of the black hole

I can't beat stage 4.

What's the last fish you unlock with the Golden Rod? I've been fishing for over an hour with it yet the highest I'm getting are still axolotls...

>>56472146
Cook your vegies in holohouse then

>>56471437
100% pure salt

>>56471437

>>56472162
anon...

>>56472146
what do yourt stat upgrades look like?

i see the pedophiles are in full cope mode today. there is no way shion doesnt get reworked even if it takes a couple more big patches.

>>56472466

>>56472536
I can safely disregard most of people's opinions on her due to the fact that they usually dislike her amazing special

>>56472651
My only two issues with her were the awkward main shot and the teleporting. they could just replace the teleporting with a different skill and she would be fine.

>>56469600
>>56469966
>>56470170
I can't do it, I've been at this for 7 hours. It's impossible for me.

The only worker meta that matters:
If they want shark at max level then fire them immediately and try again.

>>56472715
There are worse mains, dunno why people always complain about hers. Teleporting is pointless tho, yeah. More likely to kill you by accidentally stepping into it, instead of helping you, it's like a sorc using Oculus all over again.

>>56469522
>>56472969
nani the fuck are you talking about? You cant beat it as a normal playthrogh with no restrictions?

>>56473011
At least golden rod can fish up sharks, god forbid they want shrimps.

>>56472969
When in doubt just go solo weapon Irys and build defense, you can literally stand still and tank everything.

>>56472969
Same. Nothing I'm trying is working.

>47-48mins run for top 5 chocoball in stage 3H
how the fuck
charm doesn't work for yagoos so is it about ult spam with super idol costume for stat debuffs?

>>56473088
Just switch back to the first rod and fish for an hour. You'll have a thousand of them. The first tier of fish are so easy that even at max speed it's easy to keep the chain going infinitely.

>download game
>fish for 45 minutes with my wife
>get shiny wall ornaments
This game is addicting

>>56469317
I dunno, it's hard to choose. Don't forget you also have food items from the house. There's also stamps you gotta think about. It's hard to find the sweetspot between damage and power. This was my most recent run, these balls hit hard but I died around the 36 minute mark. And I wonder, did I need more damage? More survivability? Or maybe Snow Queen would be better to freeze the Yagoos? Or perhaps I should have picked the get special on hit food instead of the invincibility one. I'll probably have to experiment more.

>>56473413
Your wife is very cute.

>>56473530
I have a hard time making that super collab useful against the yagoos

>>56473285
>Beetle
>Jingisukan
You figure the rest yourself.

>>56473827
if you get a good run going ive been able to stay in it and heal up to 35min before
after 35min it just seems like a waste

So did anyone already checked if pic rel can work if you're aiming for top spots on leaderboards or is it a meme?

hello i was talking with friend and we're both pretty new to game and we were talking about gorilla's paw
they were saying that the loss of crit makes it not worthwhile in general so i was wondering how impactful crit generally is in this game and what cases you would want that item over not taking it
hopefully they add yonkisei soon and make towa's item more interesting as well and not make the stupid tmt joke

>>56474097
How useful crit is varies a lot by character. You'd basically always want gorilla paw on Korone for example.

>>56474097
If I'm using a character that has low crit: take it
If not: skip it
If not but I can handle having less crit while I wait for the super collab: take it anyway

Why do I keep doing this?
THE SPEED TIER LIST (0.6 edition)
>S for Speed is Life
Fubuki (225/can reach 330 when you pop Friendzone)
Roboco-San (280: Gains a 100% speed with her Special Attack)
>A for Amazingly fast
Kronii (256: technically 256.5, but I don't know how the game deals with decimals)
Okayu (256)
Gura (245)
Iofi (245: if she keeps the SPD buff)
Ayame (234)
Ollie (225)
>F for Fast
AZKi (216)
Matsuri (210.25)
Fauna (210)
Miko (210)
Mel (210)
Aqua (210)
>K for kinda fast
Mori (182)
Kiara (168)
Bae (160)
>M for Meh
Ina (150)
IRyS (150)
Aki (150)
Subaru (150)
Risu (150)
>T for Tortoise
Haachama (145)
Mumei (140)
Mio (140)
Korone (140)
Sora (140)
Choco (140)
Reine (140)
Kobo (140)
Zeta (140)
>Z for ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Ame (135)
Shion (135)
Kaela (135)
Sana (130/ Technically she can reach 182 with the buff from Astrology, but it is too unreliable)
Suisei (130)
Moona (130)
Anya (120)

Here is the list with the numbers: https://files.catbox.moe/b7jdv1.png

>>56473976
I tried, and it's quite a meme. Hardcore mode will add bonus multiplier for your current score*final minute value*0.02
In short, if you get to 30 mins then your score is the score you would've gotten in normal run multiplied by 1.6. The problem is that the majority of your score in normal run comes after the 30 mins mark by killing the YAGOOs, since they're counted as miniboss and worth 1000 points each. In Hardcore mode though you get touched by them you die so it's by no means worth it.

>>56468863
Garbage compared to the others.

alright I'm theorycrafting the optimal koro run (no super drops) for yagoo killing and surviving.
is rap dog+holy fire enough offensive dps that I can sacrifice the remaining 2 collabs for absolute wall and the sake? last item sausage or books?
or should I drop wall or sake for one of the weiner collabs and have last item wamy water?

>>56469039
AZKi, the music note multiplying itself with a lot of haste is a no brainer.

Should I have marketing on when trying to clear stages normally? I always feel so underleveled.

>>56473285
>charm doesn't work for yagoos
Yes it does.

>>56474097
Depends, but it's generally good. If you're just starting and have <20 crit or you're likely to go over 100 anyway than it's absolutely fantastic. It's actually really good on Bae since she can go well over 100 crit thanks to RatNG. The 1.4 multiplies your ATK%, so it's a lot of damage for one item.

>>56475023
You can only make 1 super collab, so that build is impossible. Korone probably wants Jingis, but I haven't played her since grinding gachikoi last patch, so take that opinion with some salt.

>>56475393
I meant the glowstick wamy water collab, not the super that is that + sake. if I remember correctly the normal collab is called <somethingsomething> sake as well

>>56475023
rap dog is unironically a good yagoo killing weapon cause of its -def debuff, super sake is a good yagoo one too cause yagoos arent immune to ice and when you get swarmed you just move through whichever one nearest to you got iced and never actually get hit
other than that pick ones that dont actually go on the floor, cause you will have to move at some point

>>56475479
I think you'd be better off going Bone Bros, Endless Tears, Wamy Water. Water has a stun, fairly big sprite especially with +Size, and it hits the Yagoos that are actually on you. I also still think Jingis is the correct super collab, but that's how I would build with Holy Fire.

>>56475604
yeah jingis even with doll, breastplate and membership, doesn't seem to heal enough so normal sake collab + rap dog + holy fire seems to be really good dps. last collab wall for running + books or sausage last item for the tiny amount of knockback seems desirable too.

>>56475712
I'm pretty sure Plushy actually reduces Jingis' healing with its pink damage. Swap it with Full Meal.

>>56475892
hmmm I'll try that before giving up on jingis. I figured the DOT from plushy would have the opposite effect, give jingis more time to heal.

NNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED LUNA IN HOLOCURE RIGHT NOW

>>56475892
with this set up, jingis, lightning weiner, rap dog, snowflower sake seems good. or is there better dps than lightning weiner for this?

>>56474425
he bacc

Starting to see the appeal of Reine for casual farming. She doesn't need (or rather, can't effectively use) the single-weapon Greed combo, all you need is her special and idol costume (or Idol Live, but you lose Bardiche).

>>56473042
>>56473171
>>56473214
after almost full 9 hours, it's done
if I didn't stack all those defensive skills, I'd be dead before the ID3 stage

>>56476293
you only have one collab.

I can't beat stage 4 as Shion. You guys told me she's broken but she can't fucking do it.

So, you know how apparently Snow Queen's base crit apparently stacks with Sake's crit for some reason, and Jingi keeps Sheep's food drops? Idol Live with Super Idol Dress lets you keep the double special from the super dress. If you can somehow get Super Idol Dress early, Idol Live is probably your best choice for a collab.

>>56476293
>lv53
Just use Halu and Glasses in every build you ever make. That way you will rush collabs and super collab. Also learn what items you need for collabs instead of picking random shit. Elimination and reroll are huge, invest into some if you haven't yet.

>>56476098
>item is haste-based
sugar rush gremlin
am excite

>>56476353
Yeah, like we said she's broken.

>>56476293
nicely done anon!

>>56476536
Some people might not realize but in 3H stage you can just run to the box at the top and with some luck start the run with a random super item, your best bet to get such super Idol Live build going as long as you are patient with stage reroll.

>>56476293
Good job anon. Criticism if you care for it:
You're building way too defensively. If the character has decent healing built into their kit you can typically get away with one good defensive item. Two at most. If they lack healing you'll likely want one defensive item and one healing item. Maybe throw in an extra defensive item if you take something that negatively affects your survival like Energy Drink or Face Mask. Glasses are a universally great item to take. Halu as well once you get strong enough to handle it.

So, I dunno what exactly the "massive bonus" is supposed to be for doing Hardcore, since the score isn't itemized, but it clearly doesn't have shit on Halu. Definitely doesn't seem worth the bother to run it.

my only major achievement left is the fucking no-hit by projectile one
how THE FUCK can it be managed without getting a good rig? i always get fucked by random fps drops

>>56477399
Play Fauna. Use the projectile destroying stamp too if you must.

>>56477399
Play Stage 1 Hard, there is only a single projectile wave, at 17 minutes. Play who ever you want, and at 16:55, pick a direction and just run, and you'll be able to outrun the projectiles. I'd suggest using Bae, so you can nuke the end boss who is the only other enemy that fires projectiles.

>>56477399
It's not no hit, it's no damage. That makes it a lot easier. Play on S1H, get body pillow, play a character with a shield, and maybe get absolute wall even though it's not reliable. There are only two sources of projectiles: the saplings are sporadic and won't do much unless you stay still, and the final boss can be killed quickly if you have enough dps.

For performance: turn off damage numbers. Play in a lower resolution if you must. It should barely matter.

>Use special
>get 50 crit and 50 haste
Huh? Is this normal? And before you say anything about the Sake, I got really bad luck with rerolls.

>>56477734
Yes it's 50 to all stats with that super collab.

>>56477734
Check the details on the super collab.

>>56477734
At least read what the super collab does...

>>56477825
>>56477834
>>56477876
I thought I read that effect from food you could eat, not the super collab. I think I'm losing my mind. But the effect doesn't refresh if it's from double special so that's something to note.

>halfway through 3H as Suisei
>Shuba gets stuck in the about to punch pose forever because of a tetris block while Haachama is spamming bullets right above
>can't run through the duck into a safer zone so I just get squeezed into the corner and die
Yeah fuck this I'll just stop trying for now

>open Holohouse
Where did the last two hours go?

This is how much I make with a maxed farm going from max stamina to zero.

I really wish the end screen had damage numbers.

>>56477018
>You're building way too defensively.
It was the build that got him through the stage after 9 hours, anon.

>>56476353
Get the extra projectile stamp, bomb stamp and stack haste. She's a fucking death machine if built right, otherwise she's garbo.

>>56478204
i get that he wanted to make a comfy clone of tomagatchi/chao garden type shit but its so bad both mechanics and efficiency wise

>>56478301
Yeah let me just rig the RNG real quick.

Please help me
I don't want to die

>>56478947
Run.

>>56467417
Shion's my favorite character I love using the portals to warp around

Not sure what to do with the bottom-right corner. Still need more money for more props.

>>56476637

>Marketing: Increase the number of fan spawns by 1 per level. This will increase the difficulty
>Increases XP gain and actually makes the game easier

>>56478471
>rig the RNG
Not needed, just went on a run and did it first try and I didn't even get the bomb stamp. Did you max out the armory already? Stage 4 is pretty hard compared to the others, I think it's even harder than Stage 3 Hard.

Damn the first place on Mumei Stage 3 Hard really smells fishy. I don't think it's even possible to reach level 261 in mere 31 minutes.

>>56479799
nice

>>56480496
90% of your deaths should be from getting mobbed. It increases the likelihood of that happening.

>>56480519
>I think it's even harder than Stage 3 Hard.
No shot, stage 4 is a step up from the usual normals, but it's not really that difficult. 3 Hard isn't too bad either, but the first 5 minutes are easily the hardest of any stage due to the small map and quick ramp-up

>>56480717
99% of deaths are from having the wrong items.

>>56480826
>I don't know how to play unless RNG gives me an optimal setup

>>56480938
If you don't kill fast enough you lose. It's that simple.

>>56481018
>I don't know how to play unless RNG gives me an optimal setup

Is it just shit luck that I only get greed stamp 30 minutes into endless mode every time

>>56481039
Cope.

>>56481085
This is why you don't rely on optimal farming runs to make your money. Just get your workers set up instead of constantly rerolling/restarting and praying for an early Greed stamp.

>>56479799
Impressive

>>56481085
yeah, but with like 4-5 more stamps in the pool you can get screwed even harder

>>56481157
I am NEVER going to fish. Fuck you Ina.

>>56481157
Not him but
>Just get your workers set up instead
That's what I did. It only took me over 16 hours of farming and fishing to level everything up and get the golden rod and a few dozen millions of coins but yeah, it's totally worth it.

>>56481678
>16 hours
I hope you mean over the course of 16 hours and not actually 16 hours dedicated to sitting there fishing and farming because fishing takes up a bulk of the time needed and getting the Golden Rod only takes like three hours total if you can consistently reach a good chain.

>>56481940
>"""only""" 3 hours of the most boring shit imagineable

>>56482071
Three hours to set up an infinite money generator compared to three hours of grinding boring coin farming builds with many attempts being complete busts due to RNG which does not sustain you long-term.

How do I get 10k damage in one hit. Is it only possible with pumping up Suisei's axe?

>>56482477
Suisei solo stamp build, Aki belly dance nuke and I think EN Curse can build up with a big enough chain.

>>56474425
I think you need to count Moona's spd on her goddess form too

>>56482377
>three hours of boring shit compared to three hours of playing the game
tough choice

>>56482477
I somehow got it with Subaru and I don't even know how it happened.

I wanted to make a trophy display in the middle but they only attach to walls

If I'm going for a main weapon only run, am I screwed if I get presented with 4 weapons on level up and I'm out of re-rolls and eliminations?

>>56483558
you can buy something in the upgrades to limit your number of weapons

>>56483558
um... anon? Anon are you dumb gay and retarded? anon?

>>56483558
You can literally disable weapon drops bro

>>56483606
>>56483620
>>56483710
Oh shit, I'm retarded
I never check that 3rd tab

>>56482751
Shit, I forgot that one, neither in the menus nor in the wiki it says what the buff is, but in-game it's 100%, right?
If that's the case, put her on A tier over Kronii

is solo weapon suisei worth taking crit on or should i just stack atk ups, how does the scaling work on her blocks/special

>>56483053
>using a door against a wall to simulate a cabinet/cupboard
Genius.

Does the negative upgrades increase coins or score?

>>56473413
Really love Roboco, she's cute and really strong, wanna test her out with the new exp glasses and coat.

Fauna is literally the best character in the game. She's fucking broken.
>2 passive skills that heals constantly
>healing buffs her attack and speed
>healing also deals massive damage with one of her skills
>can get 5 shields that negates attacks making hardcore runs a cakewalk, especially when combined with headphones since it rolls for dodges first and then if it fails it uses up the shield
>main weapon is an aoe that homes in on targets
>ult is a get out of jail free card that heals and procs her thorns skill and last for a whopping 10 seconds

If you mained Fauna you didn't beat the game.

>>56485123
I used her to double up on No Healing Items on Hard + No Items.

What's the build for Zeta? I can see her invisibility/invulnerability mechanics being really powerful, but I don't know how to capitalize on it

>>56485123
I need to use her with the beetle and the watame cooking super collab whose name escapes me.
Exist, therefore, infinite vine pegging.

Unrelated note, if I were doing a 3-weapon run (main, super collab, generic) should I replace Solo Stamp or swap it? 60% is still 60% even though it's not 90%.

>>56485348
I thought solo stamp is 40% fuck me

>>56485348
I thought it was 45%. You have three empty slots for 15% each. Also, now that I see
>Stamp doesn't affect baseballs
God why is this weapon gimped so fucking badly compared to the other character weapons.

Main Weapon Only
No Weapons
No Items
No Skills

>>56485977
>>56485615
My mistake, I was thinking we had 6 weapon slots EXCLUDING main weapon.
45% is still 45% even though it's not 75%.

What do the fans with the glowsticks do? The ones with the AOE ring around them.

>>56486251
The blue ones kill you.

>>56483053
Good job Kapumin

>>56486251
Red buffs, green heals and blue slows you which can very easily lead to a death.

>>56486589
Red debuffs your attack.

Do Azki's skills count body pillow damage?

>>56486118
What map? And what about Stamps?

>>56487139
No. If a skill refers to "on damage", it's specifically damage to your hp, not body pillow. "on hit" does include hits to body pillow, but not dodges.

No superchat or greed until 10 minutes in and I was still able to collect 500k. Coin farming is absolutely nuts in this update.

>went to check on my gachi ranks
>they changed the system
at least this seems easier to do.

Anyone else getting game freezes when special groups spawn (lines of enemies, circles, etc) after afking holohouse for a few hours?

>>56487824
Yeah this happened to me too, don't know if it's related to the holohouse but restarting the game fixed it.

>>56487824
I was just noticing that. Probably some memory leak. It's better to quit and restart the game after an hour or so.

>+20% Damage Rate Lava Bucket
>+Knockback Effect Spider Cooking
>Wasted because I was out of Pufferfish meals
Someone please kill me, that 100% would have been a world record run.

>>56487312
Any, but obviously the harder the map the bigger your epeen.
Stamps sure since they're part of the main weapons.

Please add the random selection button in again...

>>56487824
Definitely a memory leak of some kind. Restarting fixes it.

Is it just me or does Risu seem hard to use?
I kept dying on stage 4 with her despite having full upgrades. Maybe it was the Halu

>>56469522
If you want a braindead strat
Fauna with two weapon slots.
Weapon: Jingisukan, whatever
Item: Just build defensive + beetle - Membership, Nurse Horn, Plushie, Beetle, Breast Plate, Full Meal etc…
Stamps: Attack, Vampire, Solo/Pekora
Stats: HP>ATK>whatever
Once you get jingisukan any current stage mode is just free

I messed around with Shion and Miko a bit but I don't really want to play without my oshi.

>>56478366
>efficiency wise
That's good money though, unless you're playing a money farming run it'll be hard to beat that number, which gives you the freedom to try random builds without feeling like you're missing out

>>56489542
As with all characters that have no natural defense in their kit I use plushie + full meal + vampire sticker just to prevent getting instagibbed. At least thats what I did to do S3H

>>56489542
Stage 4 is actually pretty difficult.

>>56467320
Reminder to manually backup your %localappdata% save because your save can get bricked. I BSoD'd when backup software was running with Holocure open (doesn't happen with other games).

>>56489542
That stage is just bullshit. Blue stick fan is one of the most binary DPS checks in the game. The 10 minute boss shits projectiles out of every pore.

>>56489841
300k after having to waste time and resources feeding the shit out of them is ass, not to mention having to feed them for stamina even after that. a few 1-2mil irys runs could probably clear out the holo house money sink if you care about that stupid crap

>>56490352
Idk how to back up my save automatically

>>56490457
lol just move faster bro

>>56489542
Isnt she one of the best characters in the game? Are you sus?

>>56490561
The game is susceptible in general. Some ledditor said his save got destroyed by lightning (implies the rest of computer is OK). backup_save_n.dat file doesn't do shit

If you reach 20 minutes on endless does that count as "beating" the stage?

>>56490638
I'm at base fandom level with her so that might be why I was struggling since I wasn't moving fast enough to avoid damage. I eventually just gave up on Halu5 and cleared it

I don't know why but I can't control the character as well on controller as on keyboard

>>56491072
no

>>56477399
Use Fubuki her passives allow her to dodge enemy attacks, get the negate damage and shield passive items for extra protection.
Get the chance to destroy projectiles, and haste weapon stamps, and since her weapon attack in a circle around her it will keep you safe from projectiles. You can also get the candy passive item to increase your haste even more so it helps with deleting projectiles.
You can also use this setup to get the hardcore achievement.

Tried sana for the first time and got 30% size on micomet. My eyes have cancer now.

>>56474425
thanks viperanon

Yeah I think Im burnt out for now. Played a bunch before and after this patch came out - got every cheevo besides the gachikoi ones, gold fishing rod, level 4 manager, g21 all characters and all outfits. I need another 13 month break.
pic not related at all

>>56491072
no, endless doesn't count for beating the stage at all for gachikoi and achievements stuff
yeah it's retarded, go bug kay yu about it

>>56492243
I always go for size enhancements and milk with Sana. Don't care if it's not efficient. It's amusing.

>>56492661
I swear there is one thing in the game that counts if you go over 30 minutes for endless?

>>56492243
I think you can get a screenwide Eldritch Horror with Sana

>>56492672
I also had a pretty impressive dong.

Finally got all of the main achievements after failing bullet hell 3 times in a row, feels good man.

Does beetle work with Suisei's crit splash?

>>56488532
There's stage 1 hard. Could probably manage stage 2, but it's late so I'll give it a go tomorrow.

>>56494985
I just took it and it does.

I got to management level 3, do I start replacing all my workers with gold star ones now? Or do they all require expensive/rare food and I should keep some silver stars?

>>56496385
No. Assuming you were smart and only hired workers with a level 15-20 cap the first time around you should be able to reach manager level 4 with them. That's what you need to get the highest tier of workers with the best stats.

>>56496385
who cares bro just fish until you unlock everything

>tuna
>SEA turtle
>manta ray
>shark
>in pond

>>56496714
>refrigerator
>in pond

>>56496913
>Kronii clock
>in pond
Actually very realistic

>>56497152
>dick
>in shark

>First time making Curse Ball collab is with Kaela
How many games within a game can we have

Does anyone know if anvil upgrades stick to weapons:
base weapons upgraded before colalb
collab upgraded before super collab
?

>>56500367
Enhancements stick and it's the only way to get two at once on a collab item. Upgrade effects do not carry over.

>>56499923
you should be able to trigger cursed ball with melee weapon

>>56467320
Welcome to my crib

>>56489542
Just fucking spam nuts and you win, she's actually the best character to use Luna's candy on because her skill deals percentage-based damage so the decreased damage doesn't matter. You just cover the screen in nuts and clones and it feels nice.

>>56483053
I will steal your TV from the window.

Food gives max HP even in hardcore... doubt that's intended.

what are the odds

>>56476353
>can't beat the spam stage with one of the girls that start with area damage
post build so we can laugh

who else gets a ton of damage out of their skills that I can run a beetle build on? fauna was way fun

>>56502049
Gaki holes are too slow and can't even kill the mobs in one pulse.

>>56502040
>he doesn't know
enjoy while you can

>>56502485
yeah, I figured something wasn't right

>>56502485
What doesn't he know?

>>56490457
>shits projectiles out of every pore
lol what projectiles all it does is try to body slam you

>>56502926
its another bug that stops working if you unlock everything its probably getting patched already

>>56503192
Ah, good to know. I was wondering if I was getting more super items than usual. Thanks anon.

>>56489542
i dont know if only using base weapon with solo stamp is cheating but i cleared stage4 with her

There's no reason to even take Halu anymore unless you're grinding money now that there is a +spawn upgrade that doesn't make everything stronger.

>>56504123
They definitely stack.

>>56504123
>>56504190
Does Halu scale with the stage-based cashmoney multiplier?
If no then never ever 3H Halu.

>>56504123
I need more.

>>56504123
My endless score sucked when I didnt take halu

How the fuck do I avoid getting hit on hard stage
Do I just refund extra spawns upgrade?
Also is there character with guaranteed dodge?

I don't watch Zeta. What's her connection to Kamina's glasses?

>>56505636
Fauna is a guaranteed "dodge"

>>56505853
Possibly none, Lui uses them often. Think like how Shion unlocks the La+ Shackles.

>>56505853
According to the wiki it's from Lui https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Focus_Shades
Zeta just unlocks it, just like Shion unlocks La+' shackles.

>>56505853
No fucking idea, but Lui-nee does have those in her base model so maybe its just a placeholder, reference to Lui-nee like the Kusogaki Shackles, that or Zeta loves Tengen toppa to death.

Crit seems weirdly underpowered

At what percentage of haste and attack interval reduction (from a stamp) not worth picking up on Korone?
It's just amusing to me to Orayo! everything as fast as possible

I have to close the game every few hours or suffer massive frame loss.

What do you call this collab?

>>56506453
fish lvl?

I was checking the Changelog https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog#0.3_Release
and it says:
>First public release, featuring the 11 hololive EN talents
but I remember downloading and playing the first version that only had Myth and no gacha, no shop items, no aiming and only the first stage. Am I going crazy?

>>56504123
Bro, marketing has always been there

>>56502465
used the recommended stats
>inb4 super item
got it last and felt bad about dropping it

>>56500809
>does not carry over
does that also mean Kaela's material grind effects get reset on collabed weapons as well?

>>56506702
The first public release had all of Holo EN.

>>56506994
material grind is a character buff and not linked to the weapon

>>56507000
bruh wtf, I remember getting excited to finally be able to play as council and seeing the new gacha system. there's no way.

>>56507149
Then it wasn't the public release.

>>56507131
neat

fucking shit I remember super collab counting as 4th collab (disable 1 weapon slot) but trying again on pre-bricked save I didn't get Full Collab

pretty good coin haul from fauna considering this was not coin run at all. I just had greed stamp and also I didn't even wanted to do endless just classic hard stage, I noticed it's endless when I killed Bae lol.. god I need to sleep

how the fuck did people get to 1 mil gold with Reine I don't get it. what am I doing wrong

>>56508770
Are you spamming her special or timing it right?

Rrat OHKO'd me before I could do my follow-up special...

>>56508850
I spam it, do I need to time it? How?

>play Sana
>Noel Milk doesn't show up in 90 levels
I feel like I lost the run.

I just got to stage 4 and suddenly the game is fucking impossible, what the fuck? Enemies are tanky as fuck, even though I do have an extra attack level than the recommended one. Should I go grind for more coins at the previous stage?

>>56509569
The new cheer enemy, one with blue aura slows you down. That bastard cost me several runs before finding out.

>>56509632
Yeah, I literally just died to him. I thought he was the regular healing bastard, so I got too close before I realized. It doesn't help that I was playing as Calli, who is slow as fuck to begin with.

You DO fish with the zoomed out camera for style, don't you?

I really expected IRyS money farming to be nerfed this update, but they somehow made a more degenerate money farming character in Risu. Just got 300k in a single run, highly recommend.

Look at Friend go!

>>56510229
Would be nice if stream of tears wasn't so weak

Anon, what is this hidden achievement?

technically, reine can be used to farm coins faster than irys right? Her weapon seems to be multihit

>>56510061
>300k
lol. lmao, even

>>56510185
are those nodoka bodypillows? holy shit playable assistants would be so dope

>>56467320
how do i build zeta?

>>56509960
how

>>56510728
can i ask why wouldn't you pick a super collab or spare 2 weapon slots for it? Is stats better?

>Fishing
>Gura takes some fish that were dropped by another NPC then immediately leaves
That little shit

>>56511583
Greed stamp activates on your main weapon only, you don't want any other weapons because they would just end up killing enemies without getting much gold out of them

>>56511817
I see i understand

Someone got to level 330 with Risu? Wtf?

>>56511709
Edit your save file and set Gura's value to 0.0 as punishment

I know you can't reroll when going for No Thoughts Head Empty achievement, but can you eliminate things that pop up below slot 1 so they don't come up in slot 1 in the future?

>>56511709
damn brat...

>>56512932
Yes

thanks for recommending this build, cute kusogaki is very fun to play.
the amount of enemies and projectiles during the last minutes made the game lag.

this run takes forever but i wanna hit 2m

>Suisei literally melts Baerrat with 3k crits
>but I guess I tripped over 1 sapling bullet earlier so I don't get the achievement
FUCK UUUUUU

>>56513476
>fauna
>lvl 3 whisper
>lvl 5 pillow
>lvl 5 headphones
There's your free achievement.