/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining

3D Debut lol
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1692790652030042536

ChoKoyo
It's Koyover

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

https://youtu.be/uXVEJ0V3opE
>Even Asmongold is playing this game
What is nijien waiting for?
It's free on steam and everyone can play it

>>56435233
>twitch
would've liked to see this on Youtube, damn

grim

Subaru>>nijisanji pandering whores
remember this when you betray hololive next time mayo

>>56435210
Recent clip numbers
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Why arent we discussing today's gold Holokeks?

>>56435233
They are squeezing her one last time before she leaves?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>180,341: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>177,364: Salome (Nijisanji)
>34,477: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,402: Nui (Nijisanji)
>30,767: Suisei (Hololive)
>29,416: Flare (Hololive)
>27,778: Chiroru (Indie)
>26,331: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>25,359: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>21,039: Flare (Hololive)
>19,482: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,306: NeruMero (Indie)
>19,038: VSPO (VSPO)
>16,699: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,677: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,541: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,633: Aqua (Hololive)
>15,562: Gura (Hololive)
>15,294: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>14,411: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,819: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>13,048: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,637: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,385: Nene (Hololive)
>11,266: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>11,152: Luna (Hololive)
>11,132: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,781: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>10,718: AZKi (Hololive)
>10,369: Nose (VSPO)
>10,131: Ponpoko (Indie)
>10,104: Lui (Hololive)
>10,051: Calliope (Hololive)

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>56435301
>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program
3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)
7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi
8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live
9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order
15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up
17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live
18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait

>PER COMPANY
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Nijisanji
3x: Pekora
1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Yashiro

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
155x: Hololive
57x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
54x: Pekora
20x: Miko
16x: Marine
8x: Nijisanji, Subaru
7x: Toya
6x: Kuzuha
5x: Aqua, Suisei, Yashiro
4x: Hal, Hololive, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Mio, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Tsukasa, Ui

>>56435270
>Ookie ookie!
Powerpro is owned by Konami retard.

>>56435272
AIIIIIEEEEEEEE Plebbit don't look!

>>56435248
Why isn’t Nijien playing Holocure?Even Asmongold is playing it.

Cunnies rule this board !

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>>56319661
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>>56204985
Meanwhile in the saddest general on this board...

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>8/18 DAILY TALLY
15,562: Gura (Hololive)
13,819: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
10,504: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
10,051: Mori (Hololive)
8,817: Mysta (Nijisanji)
8,113: Fauna (Hololive)
6,941: Nerissa (Hololive)
6,045: Luca (Nijisanji)
5,823: Bijou (Hololive)
5,407: Shu (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 2023
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning
3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party
4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke
5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke
8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament
11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS
12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games
13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream
14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)
15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure
16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream
17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)
18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
6x: FuwaMoco
3x: Gura
2x: Bijou, Nerissa, Shiori
1x: Fauna, Mori, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
51p: FuwaMoco
23p: Gura
20p: Bijou, Shiori
19p: Nerissa
8p: Mumei
6p: Kiara, Mori
5p: Fauna
3p: Luca
1p: IRyS

>>56435267
Fauna follows them all who cares

>>56435248
Why is Holocure so better than VS though?

>>56435410
Don't show this shit to me.

Chu~

>>56435411
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
171x: Hololive
55x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
22x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
17x: Mumei
16x: IRyS
13x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Mysta, Vox
7x: FuwaMoco
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Bijou, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Nerissa, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
216p: Fauna
161p: Ina
160p: Mori
144p: IRyS
141p: Mumei
121p: Baelz
114p: Gura
101p: Kronii
91p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
77p: Mysta
74p: Vox
64p: Luca
56p: FuwaMoco
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
25p: Bijou, Pomu
24p: Nina, Shiori
22p: Nerissa
19p: Ike
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Bandage
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Magni, Bringer
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>>56435370
waiting for mods supporting and nijicure

>>56435270
Why are subhuman indos like this? Did your mom use the Citarum River water to bring you up as a baby

>>56435430
Where is Holocure co-op??? Why Kay Yu wants to add homos instead of making the game better?

>>56435430
deeper gameplay, mainly

>>56435270
Niji Koshien came after Vtuber Koshien

>>56435437
ew cooties

can't wait for nijisanji livers killing hololive fans on their stream

Holox announcement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR9q_J-8mfM

everyone is playing holocure huh?

Gura gaining subs fast again I guess more streams + Advent boost.

>>56435502
>As if blacksanji would let them play a holoshill game

>>56435467
Instead of making the base game better, adding farming and housing elements is a retarded move since now you have to balance both sides, wasting valuable dev time that could be used to perfect the game on dumb shit like adding co-op, adding ult union skills, adding more modes like tower defence or protect the castle.

Guys when is Nijicure gonna drop?

>>56435476
Imagine Subaru and Koyori stealing Koshien now that Maimoto is dead.

It's over...

>>56435410
is this a troll?

>>56435518
>

>>56435554
Sure faggot!
>As if Kay Yu is not an Anime Artist
He's probably always free right???

>>56435554
Not only is the housing and farming system inferior to animal crossing. The implementation of a casino is totally irrelevant to the main part of the game.

>>56435233
Will she go menhera again like in her outfit reveal if this doesn't get atleast 30k viewers?

Man this is has seriously gotta be one of the worst performing holo songs in good long while

>>56435596
>2.0 complete new design vs a outfit change

Fauna really should graduate. All she cares about is herself and her bottom line. She is completely fake and refuses to play games str actually likes and instead rips off games from another content creator because she knows it'll get decent numbers. But because that's all she cares about she'll eventually lose fans to advent who are actually playing things the enjoy regardless of numbers. Look at them continuing Donkey Kong. They have actual glee when they play it unlike Fauna and her boring ass coasting with whatever NL plays.

>>56435641
the thumbnail makes me to not want to click it

>>56435518
expecting kiara numbers

>>56435602
Lousy western game dev deserves the rope. Let's just hope it's not Yandere sim 2.0

>>56435641
this one is NOT good man I don't know what else to say here

>>56435267
>following the drunkard that is one step away from being an AVchuuba
BASED
NERISSA PLEASE START A PATREON WHERE YOU STREAM YOUR MASTURBATING SESSIONS.
Just prize it at 100 dollars a month for 2 streams like other AVchuubas and you will earn more there than in Hololive

>Morning in Europe
>Faunaschizo shows up
like clockwork

>>56435410
They have literally no fans on the board? What the fuck?

>>56435760
at this point I'm pretty sure it's the board equivalent of a ritualpost

>>56435742
which one is that?

>>56435641
Do we have a good performing Holo song this week? Feels like Neal double down on the cull

>>56435637
Kay Yu just knows his audience. JP Holos are intractable gambling addicts.

Luna spent 4 hrs just fishing in Holocure. She's built different.

>>56435787
necoma karin

Did pomu get 20k?

>>56435660
Now post Vesper number

>>56435787
Necoma Karin from Kemo Refle, they also have a bunny loli that just got banned from the 18+ streaming site, a dog that loves RPing and a wolf that is quite S, hilarious and pay to play (i.e. no ASMR without background music unless you pay etc)

>>56435801
Seems like everything in the past week has been moving at a snails pace.

>>56435641
It's a good song actually, not sure why it would be performing quite this bad. The MV is pretty good too certainly a big step above the usual powerpoint presentation MVs a lot of songs get.

iryscucks you know she's never getting near the 2,0 reveal numbers again right?

>>56435641
she should have made a music video for the actually good song on the ep (believe it or not there is one)

>>56435845
was the site anti cunny or something?

Uhh guys isn't this just a tad bit unfair

>>56435641
It might be her worst performing song, but it's far form the worst performing holo song
Just take a look at recent MVs on AZKi's or Sora's or Nene's or...
A lot of holo music is underperforming, and it's mostly the super heavy hitters like Marine and Suisei that are guaranteed good numbers

>>56435894
Everybody in this image below 7300 should graduate.

>>56435882
>>56435676
is this guy the same? does he have a name? i have seen him in every thread

>>56435742
>>56435845
Dude buy an ad.

>>56435893
Nah, I mean she has been regularly shown up in the top 10-20 streamers for quite a while so it is weird that she got bonked for a stream where it was just a static image where all you could see was her holding a cock and her face, you couldnt see her loli body

>>56435894
I believe NijiEN has the potential to grow and get numbers again. They just have to change their management structure and fire most of their livers and hire a completely new group who aren't jaded and voices fit the models. Oh and they have to be entertaining as well.

>>56435922
They're working on it

>>56435928

>>56435894
>crab game
uuuh, what did mysterio mean by that?

>>56435958
>art from /vtai/
I bet he doesn't even have the lewd ver.

>>56435916
It's astounding how deadbeats always without exception changes the conversation to be about other holos

>>56435916
Youtube is culling Record Label involved Holos.

>>56435928
just some europoor schizos. they show up at 2am for me every night.

The HoloEN box today is 48k without Gura. That's impressive.

>>56435928
Everyone i hate is the same guy.

>>56435894
>graduation buffed mysta
>Loses to a rat playing a 20 year old game

>>56435965

>>56435996
The initial statement was about Holo songs.

Waiting for my wife to finish Genshin impact new story

>>56435916
80% of Holo music perform badly no matter how good they are
The part of Holo fanbase who actually listen to music all gathered at the best of the best music Holo

>>56435916
>Nene
I refuse to believe that her Pikmin VODs have more views than her new song with AZKi.

>>56436027
Yes. I refuse to believe there is more than one person here this retarded.

>>56436074
>>56436075
>Samefagging one second apart
I see you purchased the ultra variable delux edition.

>>56435965

>>56435641
She puts out too much in too short of a timeframe.

>>56436030
Hasn't that faggot been graduating for weeks now? How long can it be buff?

Reminder to check your ads page to see who Google thinks you are and to deboost ads you have no interest in

>>56436147
ACCELERATE, 100K IN EACH SONG (10 SONG) = 1M VIEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnXz-QYRms
>Under 100k views
>Released 1 day ago
How grim is this for a full MV of a song on her new album?

>>56435894
Yeah its fucking bullshit, where the hell is our raid-free tally?

>>56436176
Sana Irys and Choco in the trash. Based.

Kaychama, please add a block option

>>56436196
None, if it didn't happen to NijiEN, it's never happening to HoloEN

>>56435696
>kiara numbah
>on the weekend
resubmit your answer

>>56435410
How are they doing this, even Coyo's threads manage to get more posts with like three IPs total

Lofifags, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

>>56436196
They were all raid-free.

>>56436211
I wish i can get a restraining order on some holos being near my house.

>>56436147
The Nijisanji of music artists.

>>56435285
She's not leaving (for good)
She just won't be using the model much and making side money from merch and subs.

>>56435641
Don't look at Nene's, Mel's, Roboco's, etc. song numbers.

>>56435696
>weekend 3d
>without the kiara debuff
no it will not be kiara numbers

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1692793521227669944
Seriously though what the fuck is wrong with Yagoos face

They could've chosen any thumbnail so why pick one that makes her look like a complete tard?

>>56435267
>Added Reimu and Finana
What do they have on the table? Can they sing to save their lives?

>>56436070
I think it's less that and more about changes in the YT algo
The holo audience for the most part don't exhibit kpop stan behavior and instead rely on the algo, which has been really hit and miss lately, or have a 3rd party source (mori's one piece collab, marine's tiktok)

>>56436307
Youtube chooses the thumbnail for shorts

>>56435995
It got two actually

>>56436307

>>56436305
He took all these picture on a bad day that’s all. Do you retard think every set of picture were taken separately?

>>56435641
>>56435860
I clicked on it and after 4 seconds I had to stop it.
What makes the rest of it worth retrying?

>>56436307
Retarded girls are cute!
Caveat: only if they look young.

>>56436307
it's auto

>>56436307
Because her being cute retard is her identity.

>>56436320
Reimu is like Shu, knows how to sing, refuses to sing

>>56435928
Faunaschizo comes on to shit on her regularly in multiple threads, he also has a completely different writing style than the other guy.

>>56435410
Why does the Ethyria anon keep creating these threads? At least create those if at least one of their chuubas are streaming.

Top Twitch right now.
Dancing, pink, chicken lady is unmatched.

That's her default expression most streams

>>56433625
>2x
no it's not. do 4x and skip all fillers/non-canon

>>56436336
You can’t just blame the algo, Holo music perform badly because the fanbase have no drive to do it, you gotta nurture the habit of your fanbase if you want them to give you numbers. And almost no Holo teach their fanbase to listen to their music

>>56435550
not putting out content is bad for the algo, yeh

>>56436399
Western vtubing is really grim

>>56436419
holy newfag

is your oshi og?

>>56436403
irystocrats your oshi....

>>56436428
>00:30 LA time.
Hmm, I guess that's not actually that late.

>JWU
>HoloKRCA shilling FGO got almost 20k
>no raids
how the fuck

>>56436436
He's right. Big numbers on music doesn't have anything to do with discoverability. It all comes down to how well you've trained your fans to play that shit on loop. Don't tell me you actually thought millions of people were stumbling into k-pop videos and listening to them?

>>56436456
Numbers bad = EU hours
it is 09:30 in euroland how dare they not watch streams

>>56436449
2 of them are lies.

>>56436449
Is Joel actually OG?
I thought he only got his model in 2020-21.

>>56436304
at best she'll match mori's right?

>>56436473
Playing it on loop doesn't work. Neither does playing it on a playlist. These are the most common methods Holofags use to listen to music. It's also why most views don't count/.

>>56436462
What's funny is that there isn't anything new enough to warrant that interest. Just pure astroturfing.

>>56436482
it's Saturday

>>56435641
you wanna see dire check out spotify

>>56436482
Why do you sound so retarded? Are you a real EU?

>>56436462
Never seen real popular demand before?

>>56436449
>2017
Bandwagoners. My oshi is a true OG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6sNkCWqZQ

>>56436545
I have seen people seriously arguing that 3 AM counts as euro time before

I just had a dream that a member of Advent collabed with tempus. is it fucking over for me to think about homos even in my dreams

>>56436540
Only 6 feet under is doing well. Did it come out sooner or something?

>>56436557
>real

>>56436583
anon...

>>56436545
>>56436522
>sarcasm doesn't come across through text

>>56436473
A good song will get numbers even when hidden as long as it's not killed by the algo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqMKCYBTzM&pp=ygUMQmx1ZSBjbGFwcGVy

>>56436583
homo

>>56436518
What did they announce anyway?

>>56436583
At least give us the dream streams numbers!?

>>56436515
It does. Every full playthrough gives another view. You actually need to listen to the whole thing though, Youtube tracks if you stop playing it and will only count a view when the playtime on your account exceeds the length of the video. This matters more for VODs since the length of the video is multiple hours.

>It's also why most views don't count/.
Copium. Views always count as long as you're actually watching the video and not spam refreshing the page.

>>56436624
Unironically any song that a holo puts out will get big if it is good, you have a floor of like 100k people that will give it a try which is real fucking good for discoverability

>>56436654

>>56436672
It was a collab with Regulus and Nerissa and I think Bijou was there too, in my dream it was only on a schedule so no numbers

>>56436585
It’s the only song with actual meaningful lyrics

>>56436730
Black Sheep has meaningful lyrics. They're angsty, but they're not meaningless.

>>56436723
>not dreaming about the numbers
Why are you gay?

>>56436320
Reimu is a great singer that has only done 2 karaokes in the last year

>>56436624
Blue clapper is catchy on top of being a pretty good & iconic song. I sometimes search for it deliberately too.

Why is Ogayu behaving more and more like a slut? Is this menopause symptoms?

>>56435581
How many teams they can make only using Hololive members? There are 59 right now, put A-chan, Nodoka and maybe Yagoo and you have 62 in total. The homos are obviously excluded.

/nijien/ is uncharacteristically fast. Are they having a melty?
>summoning the /nijien/ spy

Okayu really loves Gura

>>56436797
Like 4 at best
Koshien beggar keep forgetting that the format doesn’t work for Hololive, they don’t have the people for it

>>56436515
They definitely do count
Kpop stans were mentally ill enough to do all the trial and error to figure out the best looping practices (and YT trying to fight the cancer without killing all its music views)

>>56436817
I skimmed, they're having a slapfight about parasocialism and whether it's toxic for men to enjoy idol culture. Also someone (Ennaschizo?) is baiting them into Luxiem v Luxiem and defending Luca.

>>56436399
Korean domination

>>56436191
Old album

>>56436817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkXHJOVamGM

>>56436399
>black modesty shorts
I know the Koreans are prudes by law, but I blame Hololive for this.

>>56435860
UMG released literally a song every 2 weeks for the last month and a half.

>>56436869
Can't they just use 10 Holos per team for starters? Fill up the remaining with Joshukun #1 etc?

>>56436933
I mean they can, but the effect on numbers will be reduced and at that point it’s not the traditional Koshien format anymore

>>56436176
>Holocure mindbroke nijikek
Success breed jealousy yet again.

>>56436869
4 teams can still work out for an one day event but it won't have the whole month long arc Koshien has for obvious reasons.

>>56436428
>Korean
>Korean
>Japanese
>Korean
>English
>Japanese
>English
>Chinese

The heck you mean "Western"?

>>56436931
Mori is suffering from the NijiEN "spam buff" problem, but the music version.
Like, for instance, whenever I see a stream of hers pop up with "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT!" I instantly say in my had that it's a new song or MV, and what d'ya know, it's always true.
This stuff stops feeling special and starts feeling routine eventually.

>>56436911
AIEEEEEE GRADUATE ALL THE HOMOS

>>56436911
>Last stream >10 days ago
I didn't even know he was gone.
Didn't he have a sub 2k stream the other day? Did he delete it?

>>56436931
Why did Mori sign with the music jews when her songs were already getting way more attention under the Hololive brand and she had complete control over them?

>>56436585
It came out 2 weeks before Carousel which came out two weeks before the rest of the album 2 days ago. It normally takes a couple of weeks to get into top 10 after release because Spotify weighs past numbers as well as growth. It’s also about to be overtaken by Carousel and Future Island is right there at the top.

>>56436983
Yeah it is grim that there are nearly zero english vtubing streams in the top
Glad you saw what I saw

>>56437004
Validation

>>56436988
>Face not cut off
Nah, it's just a talk stream.

>>56436996
When you are ruled by numbers you die by the numbers

>>56437004
The One Piece deal?
Collabs with Reol and ACAne?
US distribution?
A Sololive and that Apex concert?
Unspecified future opportunities she’s mentioned that are on the same scale as One Piece?
Not having to handle all the logistics herself?

You cannot fucking tell me First Army doesn’t plan their shit for gold. The moment Nijisanji stop their event spree we see buff stream popping up like popcorn

Collab with Mea, Roberu, Tamaki, and... Aqua! later

WATCH OUT CALLIOPE THE NIJIHOMO IS COMING FOR YOU

>>56437004
There's big benefits associated with it, like for example her stateside logistics stuff and online store, big-name collabs and producers that she doesn't have to source and make deals for herself, etc. Really significant stuff.
I do think they're mismanaging her release schedule and pace though... But what the fuck do I know

>>56436982
She is under contract, not much she can do to slow down the music release

>>56437118
Huh? Isn’t Aqua over in Marine hours today?

>>56437048
Do you think he could have achieved healthier long term growth if he didn't dive right into fujo pandering and focused more heavily on the NA audience? Sure he might not have gotten so many superchats but I think his viewership would be at least a steady 5-7k if he actually stayed as a FNAF autist and only pandered to fujos on the side for special occasions.

Now that I think of it poor Vox probably hasn't even done that well over the past 2 years knowing the cut he gets from those superchats. He's earned maybe 200k for his entire time with Niji which is pretty shithouse for someone with over 1 million in superchat earnings alone

Since we’re talking about song numbers Mori is a couple hours away from being the cutest Holo

Where is Mori jigoku shiller?

>>56437086
>One Piece deal
>Releases shit song that only got news because of the One Piece name
>Any potential new fans were scared away after Mori's abysmal OP karaoke performance
Great success!

>>56437087
We have buff streams almost everyday in HoloJP though. It's more rare not to have a buff stream.

>>56437004
Cover is unironically too slow when it comes to music production, and has no connection in the industry outside of Vocaloid artists. Even worse when you realized that there's more to music than just "Putting an MV on YT and call it a day"
Again, they only switch to being an "Entertainment" company for a year or so. At their core, they're still a tech company, so ... You know
(And before anyone wants to talk shit, remember AZKi and Sora ALSO signed with a label. Even Suisei have to make up one for herself with Inoue)

>>56437086
>The One Piece deal?
Pretty meh

>Collabs with Reol and ACAne?
Probably could've swung those with Covers influence alone. Holos collabing with bigger names isn't uncommon now.

>A Sololive and that Apex concert?
Watame had a sololive and didn't need to sell her soul to do it.

>Unspecified future opportunities
Meaningless speculation

>Not having to handle all the logistics herself?
Suiseis albums sell better

>>56437145
>Do you think he could have achieved healthier long term growth if he didn't dive right into fujo pandering and focused more heavily on the NA audience?
For sure, he is the only male vtuber that is charismatic enough to get a big audience while not fujobaiting. He is legitimately funny and entertaining when he is not pandering to deranged women

>>56436797
>>56435581
counter proposal: Hololive should do a simulated PES tounrey a-la 4chan Cup
16 teams, consisting of Holo talents and, since there's too few, mascots, fan reps, memes, etc
for example a Mio team could consist of SMOK or AyaFubuMi, the two forms of Miofa, Hatotaurus, tarot cards, etc
hire me Cover

Trying to track the superchats and memberships of ameclone 4773 she's a 3 view but can't find any site that covers her outside of social blade. I was just a bit curious but for some reason it really bothers me that I can't see this.

>>56437158
Do people just click it thinking it's some other girl? Mori's singing in this was terrible.

>>56437145
Vox could never get a brotuber audience because his model is a sexy fuckable demon boss fantasy for women. Men don't want to stare at that.
I mean this is fundamentally the problem with male vtubers. Men don't want sexy fuckable anime boi "friend simulators" which is why normal looking dudes like Asmongold dominate. Your buds don't need to be fuckable, they just need to be funny or interesting or good at games.

>>56437170
I mean ...

>>56437158
She's already the cutest Holo. Her personality just sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VupT9JCJaOY
this song hit 6m. who's even watching this its not even november yet

>>56437240
It wasn't terrible, you just hate Mori. Also it's gap moe for the edgy rapping reaper tomboy to sing the "unapologetically ultra-cute" song. People like gap moe.

I will ask again, where is Mori jigoku shiller?

>>56437245
Kind of makes me wonder if Vesper will actually lose some of his audience in the long term (assuming he comes back of course).

He went from silly looking old vampire man to a pretty standard fujo bait model, doesn't really fit the personality he built up for himself in all honesty.

>>56437144
prerecorded

>>56437124
>Niji song numbers
I too am a totally real human who loves Jizz on Their Cocks by Luxiem

>>56437279
It's on the new holocure update. I went and listened to it again too.

>>56437279
Holocure boss

>>56437279
It's a cute little song and the animation is neat.

>>56437283
Bro, I used to listen to Live again and Red. This song just isn't good.

I love mori's design so much she's so sexy, but I hate her voice

>>56437223
No perm I think

>>56437279
Shows up on Hololive related mixes all the time for me.

>>56437279
it gets into my rotation every time i listen to HoloEN songs

>>56437240
I think you just hate Mori

>>56437294
>He went from silly looking old vampire man to a pretty standard fujo bait model
pizzaguy from jp also got this treatment right?

>>56437223
they don't need to do that shit, plenty of holos have alt versions that they can mine from. turns out they aren't actually playing on the field.

>>56437240
There are people who legit like Mori's music. I can't stand Mori but I like some of her music and listen to it from time to time.

>>56437190
If you want to "set the record straight", Sora signed with Victory Entertainment in March 27 2019. Hololive did not have the foundation to make music at that time

>>56437316
And the things she does, and says, and believes.

>>56437223
Dude 16 soccer teams without reserve is still 176 players. Unless they make it so that the captain of their teams are themselves and the rest of the team are multiple variations of their fanbase mascots it'll be a bitch to fill all the players, and you completely forgot how the divegrass shit people do with PES are mods and not something you can do with the base game so Konami would never in a billion years give the permission for that.

>>56437279
It's in holocure now

>>56437316
This but with Shiori

>>56437194
>Suiseis albums sell better
Disregard all the other point because they're retarded
Honestly, I HAVE to contest this point, because as far as I remember, people mostly count sales numbers from Oricon, and that site doesn't track overseas sales
Also, no digital sales

>>56435803
>know his audience
>still decide to add homos
???

>>56437363
Unityfags urges are too strong. It's his biggest fault.

>>56437363
He hasn't done it yet, let's give him some time to see reason.

>>56437240
I think you just hate Mori dude
That or you let this place tricked you into thinking everyone hates her

>>56437190
> remember AZKi and Sora ALSO signed with a label. Even Suisei have to make up one for herself with Inoue
True, AZKi and Sora are signed with Victor and Suisei is signed with Toy’s Factory through MGO but there is a massive difference.
Sora, AZKi and Suisei signed distribution deals with those labels. They retain full editorial control and the role of the labels is promotion, distribution and logistics only.
Mori seems to have signed a much more encompassing deal involving not only distribution and promotion but editorial control as well.
That, incidentally, is the exact part that gave labels a rotten fame: from the moment you sign this types of deal your entire career, image and even song lyrics are micromanaged by them, the artist that existed before signing ceases to exist for all intents, and become a fully packaged new person under the label.

>>56437003
What's going to happen when she comes back? Numbers boost? Neutral?

>>56437331
Yeah, sure. No wonder her new original is a massive success right? All her music is god's blessing to mankind

>>56437279
Me and my 500 smart fridges

>>56437362
Mori is signed with a Japanese music company. Physical sales are all they care about. They do not give a single shit about Spotify plays.

>>56437399
she will give me a lot of kisses

>>56436301
koyori too. she only gets good music numbers when she does her soulless trend-hopping thing.

>>56437344
Idk now this kind of things work ... Is it a life-long deal? Because if Hololive can make music NOW (And they sure can), Sora can just opted out, right?

>>56436817
it's 3 pm in china and SEA. ofc it's gonna be bunch of them are active

>>56437363
Well, unlike this place, most people don't hate them that much (No, retard containment breach doesn't count)

>>56437124
>NijiEN is dying
>Make a song called Casket
Didn't know Rizotto is a shitposter

Pretty talkative today huh

>>56435697
wasnt Kay Yu Korean???

qrd on this vox stream?

>>56437304
don't underestimate the power of chink bot anon, mysta viewers did this on his last cover song which reached 1m in less than 12 hours

>>56437391
>For once you start down the UMG path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Calliope was seduced by the UMG contract. She ceased to be the good rapper Calliope and "became" Darth Mori.

>>56437473
Peko is coming soon and so am I!

>>56437435
>>56437391
Her contract is not as brutal as Mori's. They haven't messed with her, so she has no reason to drop it

>>56437500
he is graduating too
total homo death

>>56437379
Clearly this place loves her. Ignore that her 3D event was mogged by two dogs

>>56437253
>2 minute video vastly outperforms 4 minute one
>the less mori music the better
what are we proving here

>>56437407
>Physical sales are all they care about.
I wonder why that is
Is it because they can jack up the price with "Special editions" and shits?

>>56437399
Depends on her content. Return stream is a buff, but educational stuff on extremely niche topics like the history of indie vtubers and rpg maker games is debuff.
She should add some buff content to her repertoire to counterbalance the nerdy educational stuff she clearly has a passion for, and it's too early to say whether she will or won't do that. Either way she'll be fine in the long term because she's a Holo, but if the bulk of her content is niche educational zatsus she'll be relatively low on the numbers totem pole.

>wheelbarrow dusted and ready to be deployed.

Holokeks status?

>>56437500
He peeled his foreskin and found cheese

>>56437473
She's real excited for MGS

>>56435410
Holy shit...this makes /eien/ look like global.

Ru…

>>56435518
3dRyS
http://poal.me/35yzaw
http://poal.me/35yzaw
http://poal.me/35yzaw

>>56437539
Why do you keep posting dog-eating language?
>We
>Dont
>Care

>>56437467
It doesn't really matter, if they add homos most holos will avoid it.

>>56436259

>>56437562
did she ever shown her interest towards this game before ?

>>56437573
>we
I
Don't
Care

>>56437539
I don't read bug

>>56437363
>still decide to add homos
Retardos???

>>56437579
Yeah, like how Pekora avoided Idol Showndown, riiiiight?

>>56437586
ZZZZZZZZZZZ

>>56437539
disgusting language.

Huh
Say has anyone seen the rocksuki guy recently? He usually shows up whenever holocure starts being the topic of conversation again but I don't think I've seen him this week

>>56436449
ironlung debuted with 2d/3d model?

>>56437589
Even back then gacha is part of her content yeah

>>56436196
you never complained about this shit, so you don't get to complain about anything that's going on right now.

>>56437592
Shu shu shu!

>>56437621
Did she play the single player again? I didn't watch the newest stream

>>56437539
TWbro why do you keep doing this

>>56437467
Is avoiding them considered hating? If so nearly all holomem must've truly despise them.

>>56437435
Mate, AZKi just opted into the same contract as Sora (what AZKi called the “gamma route”, with the “alpha route” being INNK and the “beta route” being fully boarding Hololive) and has an EP coming with them this October.
There is a benefit on signing a distribution deal with a label: they’ll take a cut but they deal with EVERYTHING from the production to the distribution to the logistics to collecting royalties on your behalf to clearing samples, advertising and they also provide an infrastructure that Cover lacks: industry grade recording studios, producers, mixers, everything someone that is planning to release multiple EPs and albums might want
>as opposed to the girls that will “only” release some covers and some originals along the time.

Mori woes come from the fact she “signed a deal with the devil” and put more than just distribution on her contract with the label.

>>56437619
Already said on record that he will add them in the future

>>56437562
She really should have never joined Vshojo. Being indie Rushia-doppelganger is more lucrative

>>56437651
Retard, I'm telling you I don't care what bugs have to say. Learn to stand up and say what you want without the mob of >we at your back. Be a man for god sake.

>>56437400
The fact you immediately shat yourself in rage kind of proves my point for me

>>56435887
Are you talking about the lullaby one? I keep seeing that and like 2 other songs brought up as better songs than Mori has made in a long time.

>>56437688
They also pay for the hitman when you're worth more dead than alive.

>>56375817
based old post

>>56437518
I’m so glad we have a expert on the music industry who knows every detail of their contracts here.

>>56437734
You're welcome.

>>56437706
Fuck off, bugman

>>56437628
Offed himself after Selen got a boyfriend

>>56437696
>still trying faggot?
Homos will be added once you accept the fact that (You) will never become woman!

Does FWMC have a bad mic? I was rewatching a certain segment of their apex collab from FWMC and Nerissa POVSs. Voices of all girls are far more clear in Neri POV

Wave 9 soon. According to the leaks, they're going to be the female equivalent of Luxiem. They're going to blow Advent right out of the water.

>>56437734
Ah my bad. I thought you were asking in honesty

>>56437764
>They're going to blow Advent right out of the water.

>>56437727
I find it funny that b2 was the one who got Hololive banned in China by trying to steal HoloCN and making a narrative of Taiwan yab. Even China will kneel to Holo soon. Capcom, FGO, nothing can stop Holodomination.

>>56437744
God this is why third worlders should fuck off. If you can't understand english, try the chinese or whatever "country" your "people" come from. The fact you need other people to stand at your back shows what you are.

>>56437764
This time for sure

>>56437727
I don't care whether or not B2 allows holo clips or whatever, but I would be happy if goobs can play Muse Dash.

>>56437764
They'll be strong contenders for the Raspberry tally for sure.

>>56437764
How many will they graduate before debut this time?

>>56437391
How does that even make any sense when Mori doesn't own her persona?

>>56437696
Didn't Ogaman said that he should add homo last? If that's true than Kay doesn't need to think about it all that much, it'll take 1-2 years to add all holomem and by that time everyone on holostars would've already graduated.

Where's my Fate/Grand Order sponsored stream?

Would HoloEN have been better if Mori, Ame, Kronii, Bae and Sana was given to a talent who likes Hololive and vtubing culture? Like imagine if Milkyqueen who was an idol, vtuber, knows hololive joined as mori instead or Pomu in Ame.

>>56437764
The actual leaker said it'll be mixed gender.

>>56437764
>Holo has twins
What will niji use to compete against the doggos?
Hire actual terrorist???

>>56437764
Female equivalent of Luxiem that will have Luca barge into their streams in the first week and start asking about their panty colors. Good luck!
Only way to make it work is to cockblock all NijiEN males out of even interacting with them and Niji management doesn't have the cajones.

>>56437586
Natural incline

>>56437764
Wave 9 has twins and people are gonna be begging for twin collabs.

>>56437844
kys beggar

>>56437764
>Hire Dog-eating female streamers
Yup they will mogged the twins 100%

>>56437844
Why would replacing them with worse talents be better for Hololive?

>>56437800
you can't fool anyone chinkoid

>>56437764
hamplanets doing divebombs into the retard pool don't actually do anything to advent swimming in the ocean.

>>56437539
But they are aiming their bots at people who anti'd coco back then?

>>56437764
Why would people better than advent join niji? they should just wait and try to get into hololive instead

>>56437764
>They're going to blow
oh they will, they surely will

>>56437854
The world's first ever Human Centipede Vtuber.

>>56437854
That one other twin streamer, I gave them a watch and holy shit they're so low energy I die.

>>56437892
niji already has dozens of talents who are better than advent.

>>56437764
>Women in manjisanji

>>56437830
That doesn’t matter at all, as the label doesn’t get the rights to what you call “her persona” (which I assume to be her model, trademark and the rest of Cover’s IP) except for what is needed to fulfill her contract which likely involves releasing a set number of albums in a set period of time

>>56437918
The coomer ones or the ones that did the reaction to FWMC?

>>56437879
>worse talents
That's subjective. Mori's music is shit, but people still find it okay. Milky could make her own music and would definitely improve every year while mori became stagnant. Pomu in ame would've been the perfect gfe with ame's models and would bant a lot with kiara and JPs. The unironic gfe idol vtuber.

>>56437928
Name them then

>>56437764
i hope this is true, i wanna see if a niji female only wave numbers in 2023

>>56437844
Replacing Mori and Kiara with Nerissa and Bijou in Myth would have HoloEN go toe to toe with HoloJP

>>56437928
lmao name one
and no enna doesnt count since she is a bitter cunt yab machine, just because she can sing doesnt mean that she is a good talent

>>56437928
If they’re better, how come they’re doing worse?
>CHECK, SET AND MATE!

>>56437888
More like belly flopping. Emphasis on the flop.

>>56437841
Speaking of FGO
How was the stream, is the VOD worth watching?

>>56437928
better at being a whore? of course that's already all of them

>>56437991
ina gushing was very cute and she seems to be very into fgo. kronii is... kronii

>>56437942
Dunno about coomer but I watched the one that did FWMC reaction.

>>56437954
I wonder how badly slighted the existing nijien women would feel if a new cgdct NOMALES gen debuted, ignored all the NijiEN men, and did far better numbers.
I bet they'd feel pretty resentful.

>>56438017
Kronii is another one of Omega's mistakes.

>>56437959
nerissa wasn't even a fan of vtubers pre-myth. She happened to be one after kiara and fauna so those two must not be touched for nerissa to occur.

>>56438017
Ina deserves a better partner. Is there anyone in Advent who plays FGO?

https://youtu.be/x9EY22d0Ufg
She started trying her best

>>56437959
Rissa is the perfect Mori

>>56437959
>Watches none of them
Right thread king

>>56438040
going back in time and becoming my own oshi

>>56437933
Mori can't do shit without Cover's blessing and they already formed a label of their own.
You don't know her contract, stop making shit up.

>>56437764
>Nijisanji
>Hire female
DOA

>>56437959
Sure, if you can time travel current Bijou and current Nerissa back to 2020 before they had the example of Myth to literally shape their lives around.
And even then, 2020 and early 2021 Mori was a dominant force and I don't think you can easily replace her.

>>56438030
New NijiEN. Now with 100% less men.

>>56438040
You don't need to have an oshi to join as Myth though. Only Kiara has a Holo oshi in Myth. Maybe Gura counts with Aqua

>>56437944
Why doesn't Milky make her own music? Ame's biggest feat is making a 3D studio, why didn't Selena do that for NijiEN? Pomu's only "holo-like" skills are worse than Kiara's, why would Cover hire her in the same gen as Kiara?

>>56437944
Why would Pomu even consider applying for Hololive to begin with? She's known for being one of the biggest Nijisanji otakus in the world. She has never given a shit about holo.

>>56438042
>Is there anyone in Advent who plays FGO?
i dont think so..
nerissa and shiori arent very into games(although nerissa loves farming sims ), biboo is a soulsfag, fuwamoco seems to dislike gachas even saying people should spend the less possible iirc

>>56438082
cover tried to copy luxiem. Nijisanji should do the reverse and try to copy Advent.

>>56438030
As much as I want to see that there's negative way Anycolor would ever allow this to happen.

>>56438084
The only reason she cares about vtuber is Kiara. She just wouldn't join in 2020.

>>56437954
>>56438030
Would never happen, Nina got denied making a CGDCT Terraria server ffs

>>56438101
Pomu is a holo reject. Don't denying history.

>>56438079
Being first EN Holo is such a huge buff, they can achieve Mori's success easily.

>>56438141
When has she ever shown the slightest interest in hololive?

>>56438134
She should've created the server to fuck with management

>>56438134
>Nina got denied making a CGDCT Terraria server ffs
lmao didnt know about this

>>56437841
star rail u rike?

The only one who replaceable in Myth is Ina. Zero achievements and zero participation in anything.

>NotWatame came into my recs
You fucking negros, can you stop

>>56438113
Because clearly every Myth cares about vtubing? You don't have to care just to join anon.
>Hey I have this vtubing gig
>ok
It's that easy

>>56438157
Kiara was her oshi, she said it in her previous persona before even joining NijiEN.

>>56438101
>She has never given a shit about holo
newfag

>>56437796
there are millions of chineses who works for ccp
one single faggot ccp slave mad at coco can get hololive/cover banned from china
to reverse the ban with a save face requires a lot of work hence why the threads has been shit for the past month

>>56438207
Mito is her oshi. Stop trying to rewrite history.

>>56438183
The male protested to management
>they dont like getting called holo-black version

>>56438199
She created the Takodachi. That's gotta have value.

>>56438205
Nerissa and Bijou didn't know about Hololive before MYTH, how would they know to apply if they didn't know the company existed?

Okay, but how can NijiEN's PR be repaired? Even the most casual of vtuber watchers think it's a drama factory at this point. It doesn't look great for them when the public's first thought about the branch is that it's toxic.

>>56438231
https://streamable.com/tmke28
You don't even know your own vtubers.

Hi anons, A certain cat manager here.
I have a question, how can we reintegrate my ciient into something called holobox, she said she's been a dweller in that box for years but somehow got kicked out. We've been trying all kinds of thing to no avail, seems like you guys know a thing or two about numbers, can you give us any advice? Thank you in advance, Cheers!

Anyway >>56438048
This stream is going to be good! You should give her a watch! She's my favorite v-tuber.

>>56438134
>Nina got denied making a CGDCT Terraria server ffs
Would they still deny it even now?

>>56438157
Pomu literally copied Pekora's MGS brand just like Nina copied Suisei's 'Hi Honey' schtick.

>>56438217
Nah, it takes as ccp-affiliated company to fund the bots and anti behavior. People forget that Aqua and Coco had a lot of chink antis prior to the Taiwan yab.

>>56437854
Married couple