/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56287070

>>56287128
fpbp

>Vezalius Bandage

>>56287070
>Could it be that the Unicorns and Numberfags are in the wrong?
Nope. We're right.

>>56287070

Vesper and Magni went to live on a farm upstate.

>>56287363
now say that without crying

>>56287424
If they where to get fired it would be more because they keep insulting their managers rather than numbers, if it was numbers half of Holostars JP would be gone by now

>>56287128
Damn

>>56287480
But homosister, you're the one crying

>>56287070
When were they ever right

>He thinks that people want the fags out because they underperforming and not because they are dragging the girls and themselves down
There are no such thing as male vtuber for male, Yagoo.

>>56287363

>>56287070
>never fires them for not streaming for MONTHS
If I could change one thing about Hololive, it would be this. Sometimes I unironically miss the time when I found out about Hololive back in 2020 and all of them had fun streaming and did it often. At some point they just gave up on putting effort.

>>56288479
Maybe Nijisanji is more up your speed. They kill entire branches and fire people all the time for not making the quota.

>>56288479
which authoritarian shithole did you crawl out from?
forcing streamers to stream under the threat of being fired will never result in a fun stream

why did yagoo posts get deleted in the yagoo thread?

>>56288479
>2020
>all of them had fun streaming and did it often
>IRyS wasn't streaming
>Sana wasn't streaming
>Fauna wasn't streaming
>Kronii wasn't streaming
>Mumei wasn't streaming
>Baelz wasn't streaming
>La+ wasn't streaming
>Lui wasn't streaming
>Koyori wasn't streaming
>Chloe wasn't streaming
>Iroha wasn't streaming
>Zeta wasn't streaming
>Kaela wasn't streaming
>Kobo wasn't streaming
>Shiori wasn't streaming
>Bijou wasn't streaming
>Nerissa wasn't streaming
>Fuwamoco wasn't streaming
Retard

>>56288479
Seethe. Seethe.

>>56287070
>Never fired any talent for underperforming and low numbers (If there is such a thing)
>Company still successful and keeps growing on a daily basis
Please don't fear, the shareholders are hard at work trying to fix this. Every meeting is a chance.

>>56288238
>Hires Japanese wannabes in your English branch in your path

>>56287070
Almost as if being careful with the talent you hire as the first and foremost priority of your company pays divideds later on down the line rather than just hiring any nigger who can turn on OBS.

Numberfags are the #1 cancer of this board.

Unicorn/homobeggar shit-slinging has got to be up there as well, but nothing will top CCVfags implying that chuuba should be defined by her numbers. Imagine arguing about music this way

>>56290410
the shareholders are going to transform hololive into nijisanji

>>56290529
based

How many had sex with yagoo? Hololive is a black company who hires people thru nepotism and sexual benefits.

>>56287070
>underperforming and low numbers
Show me which cover talent reach 2 digits? You can't? Exactly.
As long as they're in 3 digit, they're safe in the market. Yagoo would be dumb to fire them without reason. 2 digit would be alarming.
Also, numberfags get the rope.

>>56288479
This but unironically.
Hololive was more fun before they got super popular, when they still had that small, scrappy underdog feel of idols just trying to make it in a big world.
It was more fun before the clips blowing up, before the holocaust, before the EN explosion.

>>56287070
meh they still fired Rushia, sure it's justified but they should've put some consideration coz she was still a long time member

>>56290924
Miyabi when he started used to be a 2 view all while also getting daily death threats to the point of becoming a pill head.
Instead of firing him Yagoo encouraged him and showed up to every stream he had to cheer him up.

>>56291001
She was fired for being a mentally unstable menhera who leaked company secrets, not for low numbers

>>56290410
One of the Shareholders is a Rushiafag in denial who dressed up as her for a meeting

>>56291001
That's a slippery slope that opens up Cover to lawsuits (let alone the negative PR) if they're not applying their contracts fairly to all their talents.

>>56287070
I can see #s being wrong, but unicorns have always been the ones practically throwing money at Cover. Did you think they could have afforded the $20 million studio with Holostars' performance as their main assets? And tempiss as a whole would need decades to match what Gura alone has contributed to the company. Those "underperformers" are still a net positive in terms of profit, but I'm sure you can tell the difference between a talent who brings in 100k or less, and one with unicorns/gachis who generates millions.

Merch, membership and concert ticket sales are more important streaming time. Clearly shown by how they take all the members time who live outside of Japan, to work on many upcoming projects when they come to Japan and leave no time for them to just stream or even do a simple off-collab or align it so they could do it.

>>56290926
For me things changed after bloom. Overall this whole idol thing has become pretty boring. It was a meme back then to see some talent do things that aren't very idol like and laugh at Yagoo's dream being shattered. Now look at this board crying all the time over anyone not being idol enough.
It doesn't help that all their 3D lives now mostly exist to push their original songs with some pre-recorded performance.
And the new girls who join Hololive are going to get a 3D and perform as an idol anyway. What's there to "push" as a fan? They already made it.

>>56287070
Unicorns are still right; numberfags are always wrong

>>56288479
Chammers...

>>56287070
How does he do it?

against all odds

>>56291001
Rushia was given a lot of consideration, she didnt just break a rule,m she continued breaking them through the investigation and lied constantly

>>56291001
Giving her consideration means not giving consideration to the girls she affected

>Could it be that the Unicorns and Numberfags are in the wrong?
No, Yagoo is.
He's risking the well-being of all of the hololive girls by dragging their reputation down with oopsies like Tempus.

>>56287070
>Could it be that the Unicorns and Numberfags are in the wrong?
no

>>56287070
>Never fired any talent
they did, Cover purposefully let Coco rot, did nothing to quell spams, they didn't even hire one or two mods for her. Classic Japanese tactic to get rid of employee, literaly the prime case of Banishment/Expulsion room.

>>56287070
Fuck off don't put unicorns and numberfags in the same category.
Numberfags have zero positives
Unicorns are at least extremely loyal and support their oshi with effort time love and money

>>56287363
Thank you for saying what needed to be said

>>56287070
We always have been in the right.

>>56291214
>Yagoo encouraged him and showed up to every stream he had to cheer him up.
based

>>56287424
Interesting news

>>56287070
Sana....

>>56287070
Do you actually not know what a unicorn is or is this some retarded attempt at trolling?

>>56291214
and this is why I still respect Yagoo, he's not shithead.
He also did this to Miko when she was a 2view, saying he will keep supporting her.
any schizos thinking Cover will axe the boys are just delusional when Cover build their foundation by keep supporting their talent even if they're underperforming.

>>56298551
>Cover purposefully let Coco rot, did nothing to quell spams, they didn't even hire one or two mods for her
The "mistakes" that Cover made with Coco does seem like the Japanese tactic of pushing an employee to quit. When they made some of her antis into mods who started banning members was the point where it became obvious. Haachama now seems to be getting the same treatment.

>>56291409
>Did you think they could have afforded the $20 million studio with Holostars' performance as their main assets?
They can't afford it, period. Sheikh Yaqoob had to sell his precious (and overpriced) company stock to fund it. Which shows how balls deep he tried to support this venture.

>>56289112
It's doxxing

>>56307801
>Haachama now seems to be getting the same treatment.
Shit, really? What did she do?

>>56287070
He literally has two of the Homostars locked up in his basement torture chamber right now

>>56287070
>A CEO that cares about his employees
damn I could use ones of those...

>>56287424
They had the best homo numbers so they weren't fired for that

>>56287363
You fuckwits are delusional.

>>56314307
You're not an eceleb, just a nameless cog in the machine.

>>56291214
Based CEO. Riku would've fired them on the spot.

>>56314582
No need to be so correct... but you're right.

>>56291439
True. Personally I prefer the 2/3view space with a more intimate chat experience. You can feel the push a lot more there. A $50 Supa can make a girl's night. A holo won't notice that pocketchange. They are the big leagues.
That said though, I love what I've seen of Fuwamoco

>>56289027
NTA but forcing people to stream is really only a big issue if there are no limitations or the mandatory quota is too strict. This is fundamentally a job, and any job will fire you if you just decide not to show up for months. With the exception of health/family issues, vacations, or maybe outside responsibilities like school or work, i don’t see why someone can’t do at least a couple streams a week, even short ones. You might be able to lay some of the blame of HoloEN’s stagnation on a lack of urgency to stream, if you‘re already loaded and you aren’t risking your job by not streaming, then it doesn’t really matter if you barely stream since you can always come back if you need quick cash.

>>56287070
They fired Sana for underperforming.

>>56315271
Now that's a new rrat.

Who will takeover Cover once he bites the dust?

>>56290529
>The unicorn/homobeggar shit-slinging isn’t as bad as numberfags
The unicorn/homobeggar shit-slinging is often about numbers.

>>56287424
>Cover fires poor performing chuubas, I know this because it fired the two best preforming ones in the branch
Amazing deduction

>>56315271
Kiara's continual existence is a mystery then.

>>56315750
I feel like the unicorns don't care about numbers, they just use it as a convenient tool when it coincides with their ideology.

>>56287363
This is why everyone hates you and why you are in need of virtual e-girl gf in the first place. Get help.

>>56287070

>>56287070
>>56316191
Wasn't for underperforming, but point still stands. OP needs to stop revising history to make Hololive look good.

>>56287070
>Unicorns
Unicorns mainly support Hololive over any other agency though by far? Should've shoehorned that one in better, sister

>>56291409
This, no idea how Unicorns are possible thrown in the same boat as numberfags

>>56287070
>Could it be that the Unicorns and Numberfags are in the wrong?
i fear for the future of humanity if you only figured that out now, unitards and numbertards are the biggest antis to vtubing without even realizing it

>>56316365
Unicorns aren't numberfags though. Unicorns don't care if the numbers of their oshi are bad, in fact they would like it more if there are less newfags to deal with

>>56287070
Unicorns are the ones carrying the company on their backs, retard.

>>56287070
Yes, they're wrong. But not about popularity overall, but about Cover's strategy and aims. They are not a streaming company and not a company created to serve unicorns. Their goal is to create a global media culture that transcends barriers of region and age. What this entails is that they have always aimed to have a large audience and customer base beyond even loose definitions of otaku and weeb subcultures. To accomplish this they will try many different things and have a broad talent pool that caters to a wide range of potential viewers. Their corporate strategy is essentially antithetical to what unicorns want. So, if they seem like they depend on parasocial bonds for a significant portion of their income now, expect that this will change as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

Don't believe me? Read all their corporate documents.

>>56287715
That was before ipo, now holostar have been subjected to standardised merch if they fail to reach sub milestone and they all require to do more member stream. Obviously tempus merch won't be subjected for the first years but next year they will probably become standardise too.

>>56317041 me
Obvious they won't be fired and could just live off freely coasted of with meager benefit. But those 2 are menhera, so they might just quit first before being fire

>>56315226
Nta but you must be a retard then, holo always have a streaming quota of 3 stream perweek for a year, after that they negotiate their contract to whatever they want.

>>56317270
wow they gotta fire shiori then that whore

>>56317270
>3 stream perweek for a year
And hows that worked out?

>>56292432
The adoptions ...

>>56287070
>get a harem
>never lose
>keep growing on a daily basic
he is the protagonist and everyone else that donates consumes are the fooder including myself owari da.

>>56298551
The full quote was "Never fired any talent for underperforming" anonchama, which is correct. If you want to argue about "Never fired any talent" make a new thread.

>>56315226
Aqua, Shion, and Gura were still in the top 20 with a low number of streams last month.
And this month, Aqua and Shion had 100k+ CCV event streams. While Gura is back, strong as ever, getting in the top 10 for all female YT streamers.
Hololive would not be as successful if they treated them like low-wage blue-collar workers.

Look at how many others in Hololive with a low number of streams in July. Fire Susei, you say? Hololive having a mix of high and low-volume streamers is doing quite well. How it's going to work as they add more gens.

>>56317616
We got en3 and en4 seem confirmed with the investor report, 2023 looking good.

>>56315298
No it's not. She never streamed, no one watched her, she got shit canned.

>>56316256
>op starts with stating cover never fired anyone for underperforming
>posts someone that was fired for an entirely different reason
>"point still stands"
are you stupid?

>>56316256
Hololive ain’t perfect but it never had to take 98% of its talents’ income to stay afloat

>>56316536
>Their corporate strategy is essentially antithetical to what unicorns want. So, if they seem like they depend on parasocial bonds for a significant portion of their income now, expect that this will change as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
Cover wants hololive to go mainstream but will than put on a coomerbait swimsuit concert. The Splash Party MV was so lewd that even some of the JP talents were angry. What they say they want for hololive doesn't matter since they keep pandering to the same unicorn fan base.

>>56287070
Op wins retard of the week

>>56316436
no, they're not, and i never said they were
they are the most damaging to vtubing, but both in their own way
but still retards who actively try to ruin a fun hobby for most, without even realizing how much damage they cause

>>56318178
You know what, that's fair