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What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money or pirating, otherwise use Vegas Pro or Premiere.

Open company auditions:
V&U (ending Aug 17): https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1688373561482993664 (embed)
Yume+ (ending Aug 25): https://twitter.com/YumePlusEN/status/1683884706192928771 (embed)
IdolES (ending Aug 31): https://www.idol-company.com/auditiones
IdolEN (ending Sep 6): https://www.idol-company.com/auditionen
Brave: https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Previous thread: >>56120377

>> No.56178062

No edition edition

>> No.56178106

Good evening my fellow neurotypical brothers and sisters

>> No.56178124

>>56141492
/aspies/ streaming today

>> No.56178195

I ove it when artists post cute replies on art they've finished.

>> No.56178340 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.56178344

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.56178445

Why don't more Live2D artists use vector art? It's way more scalable

>> No.56178495

>>56178340
albert is hot no matter if he is in male or female form

>> No.56178941

>>56178445
Live2D was designed for game companies to cheaply animate existing character art and thus has not support for vector graphics. As to why illustrators don't draw with vectors and then rasterize, most are not used to that workflow

>> No.56179193
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COME OUT AND PAINT WEIGHTS
I hate weight painting I hate weight painting I hate weight painting I hate weight painting


Getting this far took me too long.

>> No.56179240
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56179240

I somehow managed to get my model fully rigged before deciding on a name for myself and the channel, so I can't even start a twitter yet.
Share your story, where did you get the inspiration for your name?.

>> No.56179337

Can I get some criticism for my new PNG model and video (just me reading a greentext)? I was told my voice was too generic for my previous model last time I asked, so I am leaning into being generic/average.
https://youtu.be/YnaK_CrCFP0

>> No.56179710

>>56179240
My name matches my profession. My first name is uncommon (for vtubers) and starts with the same letter.

>> No.56179919

please watch the current LCOLONQ stream, he's telling a short joke and I don't want you to miss it.
https://www.twitch.tv/lcolonq

>> No.56180086

>>56179919
Clonk is on a roll here, I'm loving it, hope he manages partner soon

>> No.56180127

>>56178495
Still male in this pic,

Just drawn by a fujo.

>> No.56180341

>>56179337
Your vocal fry is so annoying, If it's intentional, please stop. Also your "S" are too long. Try to speak a bit more loud and further from your mic.
If you really want to lean into a generic look, you can try to use a no fantasy hair/eye color and go for the "Friendly neighbour" trope with more energy on your voice.

>> No.56180613

Is getting about two followers per four hour stream considered good if you’re just stating out?

>> No.56180625

>>56179193
My advice is that if there's a plugin that can make it easier then pirate it, I mean, ask a russian friend to share the zip file with you
Voxel Heat Diffuse Skinning can be useful if you have several layered objects

>> No.56180835

>>56180613
That's average to good for males. They tend to range 0.3 to 0.6 follows per hour from what I have seen. Females are usually something like 0.6 to 2 follows per hour. Twitch tracker tracks this stat so you can always look at some aspies or more established vtubers to get an idea of what is normal.

>> No.56180866

>>56180341
Good criticism. Thanks, anon. Not intentional, just years of heavy smoking. I’ll see what I can do about actively avoiding/limiting it. I’m still fucking around with vocal filters, too. Can probably do something about the tails of those S’s. Will consider the model changes, too. Was already considering removing the sparkles from my eyes. I think a dead fish-eyed look would be better for my lower energy anyway.

>> No.56181025

>>56179919
HOW DO I PRONOUNCE HIS NAME FUCK

>> No.56181110
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>>56179240

>> No.56181153

>>56181025
I always assumed it was "El-Colon-Queue"

>> No.56181187

>>56179240
I took my usual nickname (part of at least) and combined it with an anime title. Guess who I am!

>> No.56181265

https://boards.4channel.org/adv/thread/29578186#bottom

Vtuber feedback, and advice thread!

>> No.56181318

go away, rebel

>> No.56181333

>>56181025
Like El Klonk. It sounds the best!

>> No.56181354

>>56179240
>Share your story, where did you get the inspiration for your name?
It's a pun on my real name, but subtle enough that nobody would suspect it

>> No.56181370

>>56181187
This post has rabbit ears

>> No.56181382

>>56181025
I always thought it was L;Q
>>56181318
fucking christ don't invite him here too

>> No.56181397

>>56181265
Fuck off rebel

>> No.56181597

>>56181370
Nope, unfortunately not. Curious why you thought that tho. Is the name Lago from a show or something?

>> No.56181680

>>56181110
WHO

>> No.56181695
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>>56181187

>> No.56181738

>>56181597
You're not the only one with rabbit ears here bnuy boy

>> No.56181820

>>56181025
ElCulonQ

>> No.56181830

>>56181597
>Is the name Lago from a show or something?
I always thought lago was latin for rabbit I took that shit for two years in high school I don't know how I managed to retain exactly 0 of it but looking it up "Lagomorpha" is part of the rabbit's scientific classification so I guess I coulda been even further wrong

>> No.56181976

>>56181333
He needs a sombero redeem

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>>56181695
YOU GOT IT!!! funnily enough I never actually watched the show, but I am starting now. I felt like watching a stupid yet funny comedy again uu

>> No.56182111

OH FUCK my audition vid got 4 views
Anyone else?
They said end of August they’d send mails but I’m worried already

>> No.56182178

>>56181830
I feel like mofu was used as a meme sound for Bnuys, wasnt it? Im vaguely remembering something like that... Well, I was wrong with the assumption anyways it seems

>>56181738
Speaking of, You gotta tell me what other rabbit you were speaking of then. Denpa? What would her name be in reference of? Mainly just curiousity btw

>> No.56182191

>>56181025
I think his shitpost into is "EL COLON QUEQUE"?
But I like clonk.

>> No.56182200

did argiepire ever post her newest video here I wanna give the (probably harsh) criticism that at least half of it felt like fluff and it could've been cut down to short-length (which might be better for the algo, fuck if I know how youtube works) and gotten the point across just as well

>> No.56182319

>>56181680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6NCR9AHfg

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>>56181025

>> No.56182502

>get a vtuber in my match in a game
>go to her channel
>she's spent $10k+ on models but her stream is super low quality (6k bitrate, extremely quiet audio - stuff you could fix in 60 seconds)

why are small vtubers like this.

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56182633

On the menu today is Doom! I've deftly avoided this classic for nearly three decades and we're about to right that wrong! We'll be starting in about 15 minutes, hope to see you there!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

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I keep flipflopping on design cues. I'm not satisfied or done with any of these but I figure I'd post them anyway.

>> No.56182778

>>56182502
I think most of you fuckers are too loud. Not just aspies. All content creators. Most devices have volume adjusters that can easily make things too fucking loud, but a lot of idiotic tech companies limit the ability to reduce volume significantly.

>> No.56182829

>>56182191
shitpost intro*

>> No.56182862

>>56182778
>Most devices have volume adjusters that can easily make things too fucking loud, but a lot of idiotic tech companies limit the ability to reduce volume significantly.
what

>> No.56182981

>>56182200
She didn't, I check every thread. Leave it in her comments, she asks for feedback in the description

>> No.56183048

>>56182502
Isn't twitch capped to 6 kbps unless you're partner?

>> No.56183091

>>56183048
no you can stream up to 8500 or so, which makes a huge difference
the documentation is wrong/outdated

>> No.56183126

>>56182655
Glad to see you went with the hair vents, roboboy.

>> No.56183157

>>56183048
also partner makes no difference with ingest bitrate

>> No.56183243

>>56183091
>>56183157
You learn something new everyday, would you recommend using 1080p or 720p so there's more bits per pixel?

>> No.56183360

Can I get some thoughts on this short I'm editing?
https://streamable.com/5tbf6u
I've shown it to a friend already and wrote down some points I need to work on/add:
-Subtitles
-In the beaver speech part, perhaps a bubble with the chuuba's face in it, to show it was being done live.
-Been told to change the "Welcome to FF2"-sign viewing segment. The "camera" work is most likely the instigator. Will probably just use the image itself instead of the live footage from the stream.

>> No.56183371

>>56183243
there's no point to 720p
some big streamers use 936p (the next smallest natural 16:9 resolution below 1080p) to squeeze a bit more quality, but it will make your vods a weird resolution which you might not want for posterity
i think 1080p is also optimal for NVENC, only x264 benefits much from 936p

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>>56182178
https://myanimelist.net/anime/9379/Denpa_Onna_to_Seishun_Otoko

>>56183048
>pic related

>>56183091
You can but you're getting severe diminishing returns even up to 1080p and filtering viewers with weaker connections.

>> No.56183726

>>56182655
cute

>> No.56183837

>>56183567
Meant 6 mbps, working night shift makes you blunder like that, glad to see I wasn't off

>> No.56183966
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>>56183567
>You can but you're getting severe diminishing returns even up to 1080p
no. why even write about technical things you don't know about?

"visually lossless" for ordinary movie-like scenes, at 1080p, in x264 (ie. ~CRF=16, according to the developer of x264) requires about 40,000kbps, not 6000 kbps. in my testing, for action games where you move the camera constantly, it's more like 100,000 to 180,000 kbps

you are not at "diminishing returns" streaming at 8500 kbps at 1080p, you're not remotely close to it, do a PSNR analysis of a ground-truth recording vs a 8500kbps recording and you'll see i'm right

and fyi your pic is wrong and has been wrong for almost 10 years, twitch accepts bitrates up to 8500, if you go above that viewers will get black screens, but go test it right now, 8500 works and you're simply lowering the quality of your stream by not using it, viewers on shit connections can watch a transcode. enthusiasts who watch vtubers with 5 viewers all have home PCs with landline connections anyway

>> No.56184122

>>56183371
there is a point. half of my viewers watch my stream on phone where 1080p rarely even matters, and if you play retro games you don't even need 1080p for the most part because it wont make the game look better. I do outdoor streaming and since mobile connections are iffy i keep it as low as 3000 bitrate at 720p to get a smooth experience and it still looks good depsite being IRL footage.

>> No.56184156

>>56182111
What corp?

>> No.56184219

>>56182862
Apple is especially bad at it. I swear they make their standard audio outputs higher than they ought to be, because the only way to limit outputs to where the ought to be is to buy their in-house headphones. Fuck Apple.

>> No.56184228

>>56182111
All First Stage EN auditions get views.
ALL of them.

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>>56184219
wow that is retarded. so you can't turn the volume down on apple phones?

that's really an apple customer issue and not a reason to spec your stream's audio below the web/twitch standard, your audio ought to be in this region in OBS

>> No.56184409

I cannot begin to put my anger into words.
I hope you get flayed open like a pastry is cut to let out steam and dropped face first into a mild acid and left there to drown.

>> No.56184584

Is the anon that was willing to edit clips for other vtubers for free still around?
I'd like to contact them.
And I don't mean the Limelight person, but the one who Haru was talking to.

>> No.56184941

>>56183360
>Subtitles
Would be good, just remember you don't need to double-sub (in some cases where you already have the text on screen, like the beaver speech bit).
>beaver speech part
Speaking of. IMO the beaver speak is fine as-is, would need to see what the edit looks like to make a firm judgement, but I don't think it needs to be changed.
>"Welcome to FF2"
YES, cut that out and just puppet the image yourself in your editor. It's a mess right now and you can make it much smoother by redoing it.

Outside of those, I think the 0:27~0:35 could be cut down a bit. It's nothing major, just a little too much of the mumble-speak that overall does the same thing and doesn't really 'advance' the clip.
That, and I'm not overall sure about the way you decide to portray chat speaking. I get it's a speech bubble and it's pointing up to where your chat was in the stream, but it's a bit clunky? I'm mostly thinking of at 0:47 where the bubble gets cut off and so you lose even that bit of context for it. It could be too wordy, but maybe put "Chat:" in front of it to denote it?

>> No.56184955

Is keitaro not streaming today?

>> No.56185071

>>56183360
Oh, and on your Twitch page under credits - use "\" to make it ignore the markdown formatting on your illustrator (e.g. "\_\_name here\_\_" will show as "__name here__").
And, good luck!

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SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY! WE LIVE WITH DONKEY KONG

https://www.twitch.tv/keitaroch

>> No.56185357

>>56183966
>twitch accepts so you should go as high as possible
/g/ was a mistake

>> No.56185554

>>56183966
I'll keep this in mind if I ever cater to /g/ with my content

>> No.56185626

>>56185554
if you cater to human beings with eyeballs, who like to see your OBS scene instead of compression artifacts, you should listen to that advice

of course, unwillingness to listen to even common-sense advice is one reason /asp/ies remain /asp/ies and stream for years to 3 viewers

>> No.56185657

>>56185626
Post your channel.

>> No.56185915

>>56184299
It can be reduced, but not significantly. It absolutely is retarded. I am also aware of the standard and I personally find it too loud. Thus my saying that I find all of you fuckers too loud. Still, I get that advertisers crank their volume to eleven, so having too much of a difference can be harmful to viewers. If any of you fucks actually have ads.

>> No.56186091

Is the true buff just learning to speak Japanese since the top JP vtubers usually get up to double the CCV of their EN counterparts?

>> No.56186165

>>56186091
The true buff is to stop using the word buff and debuff as terms in your vtubing.

>> No.56186231

>>56181110
Whoa, cool. This is actually my favorite game.

>> No.56186295

>>56186165
The true buff is me and your oshi having the most primal ball slapping aex possible.

>> No.56186304

>>56186091
Being a JP indie is so much worse than being an EN indie. You wouldn't believe the number of cute jp girls who have been streaming to less than 10 viewers on youtube for years.

>> No.56186337

>>56186295
I bet his are smaller than yours so that would be pretty hot.

>> No.56186363

>>56186091
Nah, there are tons of 0view jp vtubers. Numbers wise, their indie scene isn't that different from ours. Sometimes it's actually worse since a lot of them have a preference towards youtube over twitch as a platform and they end up in the void over there.

>> No.56186426

>>56186363
Damn, imagine all the grooming I could do if I learned nip

>> No.56186432

>>56186304
Is it because of the differences in the entertainment industry? I've noticed Japs love their pre-manufactured stuff like idols and boy groups whereas that stuff rarely flies in western circles which prefer "grass roots" entertainers?

>> No.56186550

>>56186432
It's because youtube is the absolute most shit ass platform for discovery and growth.

>> No.56186570

>>56186426
They're 0 views for a reason, /asp/ies are not rock bottom when it comes to quality

>> No.56186741

>>56186091
>JP
>double the views
Dude I checked my potential brothers and sisters and they're a big family of 0views, few already gave up and only 1 became an utaite

>> No.56186802

>>56186550
Is twitch really any better in real terms? The only difference is the minuscule chance your stream will randomly appear on the front page or some random big streamer just selects you to raid.

I feel unless you already have connections, twitch isn't any better because I don't know anybody who just goes onto twitch to find randoms to watch, they go for a specific streamer unless it's a super niche game like when I just watched a Russian guy play Heroes of Might and Magic II to just me. YouTube might be better because it offers you the ability to create solo content.

>> No.56187043

>>56186802
Objectively better, yes. The only way you're getting notable discovery sitting live on Youtube is if you've already put out a decent catalog of off-air content that has built a subscriberbase that also happens to be online when you're live.

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>>56178124

>> No.56187352

>>56183966
fedfrog

>> No.56187384

>>56186802
The environment is more conducive to discovery. When people raid they either raid their friends or someone playing the same game, this actually benefits vtubers more than regular streamers because vtubers have a propensity to raid their own kind. Search results and category browsing also only display streams which is more helpful than youtube which doesn't typically provide streams in search results. You also have to consider that hype trains will also push you to the front page for viewers that watch vtubers. The ecosystem is generally better since twitch doesn't have to also host non stream content aside from VODs.

>> No.56187500

>>56186802
Twitch is among the only platforms people actually browse categories, stream a game with a category that's not empty but you could realistically be in the first row

>> No.56187514

>>56187384
>vtubers are racist to fleshtubers
Wtf I love vtubers now

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>>56165241
thanks for the backhanded compliment anon, although that's not my actual model

>> No.56187950

>>56186802
Twitch has basically cornered the entirety of the "small stream viewer" market. There is an old and well established viewer culture on twitch that loves watching small streamers/vtubers that youtube just doesn't have. And these small streamers and vtubers have a huge and highly connected network that is pretty easy to join if you are knew that gives you at least some access to new viewers if you put in the work to network well. Youtube is just incredibly behind in this way and it's algorithm, while a nice little benefit, does not even come close to making up for lacking a robust small streamer community.

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https://www.twitch.tv/savehymn
L.A. NOIRE beat it toots these streets arent what they used to be | !discord !model !socials

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Join this cool cat and his little sidekick for some Dishonored! I also have a schedule now so scheduleposter please notice me next time.
https://www.twitch.tv/bunkumm

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>>56187950
I wish I was still this naive after 11 years on twitch.

>> No.56190102

Hey does anyone know where I can download completed AMV's in after-effects so I can see how they're made to do a song cover? I'm learning after-effects but seeing a completed project could help me out.

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>> No.56191294

>>56190102
Are you talking about someone's project file? Best way is to just watch a stream/tutorial vid of someone editing one. I don't think I've seen anyone put up their project files, plus it probably wouldn't work for you since they'd be using a ton of plugins/templates that you don't have.

>> No.56191356

>>56190102
Have you tried asking nicely?

>> No.56191664

We know the old saying is "they all have bfs," but which aspies DON'T have bfs?

>> No.56191746

>>56191664
the gay ones have gfs

>> No.56191749

>>56191294
Yeah someone else's files. Looking for streams is a good idea.

>>56191356
Not even sure who to ask to be honest.

>> No.56191762

>>56191664
Some of the guys don't have bfs

>> No.56192061

>>56191664
Me

I dont have a BF or a GF

>> No.56192200

>>56191664
All male vtubers are incels.

>> No.56193109

>>56192200
all babis are sexgods

>> No.56193465

>>56183966
he was saying you filter people with bad/unstable connections by upping your bitrate, which is true, not that the quality doesn't improve (also true)

>> No.56193563

>>56182655
SEXOOOO

>> No.56193709

>>56193465
>he was saying you filter people with bad/unstable connections by upping your bitrate,
the demographic of people who can download 6000 kbps but cannot download 8500 kbps is so miniscule as to be basically nonexistent. and they can just watch a transcode.
>not that the quality doesn't improve (also true)
sorry this is objectively wrong and you don't know what you're talking about. there is no universe where adding 2500 kbps to a stream doesn't improve its visual quality. you should not give false advice here, don't opine on subjects you do not have knowledge of

>> No.56193849

>>56190468
cool!! thanks!!!

>> No.56193981

i think that many of you are actually self-sabotaging, you subconsciously do not want to do things that will make you more successful
it's hard to wrap my head around

>> No.56194430

>>56193981
care to share some examples, friend?

>>56193709
let me rephrase it to be unambiguous

>he was saying you filter people with bad/unstable connections by upping your bitrate, which is true. he was not saying that the quality doesn't improve (as you said, it does improve)

either way, there are many rural american internet connections with about 6mbps on a good day and you aren't guaranteed to always have transcodes until partner, and you have an even lower chance to get them before affiliate, and given that this is a noobie thread... i'd say they should err on a lower bitrate than a higher one.

>> No.56194604

>>56194430
>either way, there are many rural american internet connections with about 6mbps on a good day
i live in rural america and that's just not true lmao
you've got satellite internet (300 kbps on a good day) or broadband (lowest package that any ISP offers is like 25 mbps)

please find me even one viewer who says he can watch your stream at 6000kbps but not 8400kbps
you are dying on a hill of retardation

>> No.56194653

>>56192200
i wish, im not even volcel im in a relationship with a beautiful and intelligent woman that supports my dreams and aspirations. ill never fit in...

>> No.56194724

>>56193981
yeah i am. i don't advertise myself, i dont clip myself i just stream even my viewers point that out. it's just that I can't advertise when I'm not proud of anything i make

>> No.56194940

>>56190025
Go back to your containment thread Rebel.

>> No.56196420

I am a racists, I only raid vtubers.
Any vtuber that shows flesh on stream or in Twitter is an enemy

>> No.56196982

>>56196420
handcam opinions?

>> No.56197183

>>56196982
seconding the question
>>56196420

>> No.56197366

>>56196420
Are you by chance a mtf transgender who seethes at the fact that most vtubers are irl women and their audiences love that

>> No.56197413

>>56194653
Perish

>> No.56197766

>>56179240
I went with what sounded good/catchy but without being a weeb. I think it definitely worked out well aside from the fact that the name is actually pretty common LMAO

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>>56193981
You're not wrong, when things are good I don't believe they're for real
Also I hate viewers

>> No.56198218

>>56179240
I want a long ass everything burger last name to put pablo picasso to shame, but I can't decide on one yet so I feel like I have two options:
First name + Epithet (X the Y)
Last Name (will be retconned to be a middle name) + First Name (In japanese name order because vtubing)
Thoughts?

>> No.56198280

how do some people have so much energy and stream stamina?
I'll stream for 2 hours and be exhausted, yet I can happily play games for ages on end. What gives?

>> No.56198572

>>56198218
It depends on how you're doing it

>> No.56198697

>>56198218
If you want to put Picasso to shame first you need him as a benchmark.
According to most sources, his full name is Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno Crispín Crispiniano María Remedios de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz Picasso, 15 words not counting articles, are you struggling to find what kind of name piles you want to draw from (Can't dedice if you want burger+spic names or just burger, or just spic, etc) or do you have a pile or piles in mind and can't decide which ones to use?

>> No.56198950

>>56198218
>Last Name (will be retconned to be a middle name) + First Name (In japanese name order because vtubing)
Unless you're Japanese nobody does this.

>> No.56199089

>>56198218
I always get confused with Japanese names because I can never figure out if the translated material has reordered them or preserved the traditional order.

>> No.56199284

>>56198697
I have a dozen or so cromulent surnames that I am mainly having trouble ordering in a meaningful/good sounding way. I don't need help with that though, i'll get to it when I get to it, I need a bandaid solution!
>>56198950
but I am just quirky and irreverent like that so I feel like doing it I know it will confuse people and will do me no favors, but it seems funny???
>>56199089
omg same.

>> No.56199373

>>56199284
I'd say go with Name+The epithet if you have a design in mind already then

>> No.56199407

Was Keitaro raided again or he can pull 50 CCV by himself?

>> No.56199483

>>56199407
Why even bother at this point

>> No.56199508

She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends

>> No.56199613

>>56199373
Oh I exist already, I am just going at it mononymously currently and it feels wrong and silly.

>> No.56199825

>>56184941
>>56185071
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback and the additional tips.

>> No.56200509

Ain’t no way you retards tricked Keitaro into thinking SAVEHYMN is an aspie and made him raid her.
KEK. She is not Ain or from /here/.

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https://www.twitch.tv/purpur_lavandel

>> No.56201418

>>56200580
I love cheen's art

>> No.56201435

>>56200509
they were in aspcord before retard

>> No.56201509

Wait did Keitaro pull some big numbers again?

>> No.56201518

I feel like I won't advance past 1view until I learn to stop being so nervous talking on stream. I only started this month so it's still fine since I'm slowly getting used to talking but I hate being aware of it.

>> No.56201644

>>56200509
Wait is that what's happening, some groomer Gumpai clone is trying to boost this guy?

Got it, whew, was worried for a sec.

>> No.56201733

>>56201518
You just need some correction, meet me after class.

>> No.56201929

>>56201435
Thats not Ain
>>56201644
No, he raided her and she has no idea who any of us is.

>> No.56201979

I can't wait to go to offkai next year and have sex with all the /asp/ies.

>> No.56202054

>>56201979
no need to wait that long

>> No.56202337

All these entitled faggots upset that somebody got raided once

>> No.56202454

>anyone that hangs out with him will be a leech
>any stream he has won't count
>anything he does will be scrutinized by the most hardcore crabs
What a life our very hamster leads.

>> No.56202478

>>56202337
>Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice...

Plant.

>> No.56202500

>>56202454
And none of that matters because his detractors have and will accomplish nothing.

>> No.56202768

>>56202337
>all these bla bla bla raid
Are you still posting about this? Don't let a raid be the high point of your career, please.

>> No.56203174

>>56202768
>samefagging

>> No.56203232

>>56203174
First post in the thread.

>> No.56204891

Who was the Vtuber that inspired you to give Vtubing a go? Who really made you think "huh, I wanna do this too,"? For me personally, it was Sinder.

>> No.56204919

>>56204891
Nen Tsurugi
Vesper Noir
Himemori Luna

>> No.56204921

>>56204891
Pomu and Pomu's PL

>> No.56204930

>>56204891
Kizunai Ai

>> No.56204983

>>56204919
>Vesper

Groomer

>> No.56205096

>>56204891
foxplushy and shondo.

I feel like foxplushy gets no attention.

>> No.56205128

>>56204891
Tenma Maemi. Every ESL chuuba

>> No.56205201

How to find /asp/ies

>> No.56205254

>>56205201
post link and if you aren't schizo they'll find you

>> No.56205327

>>56204891
Mori Calliope
Reshii from Showtan
Terumi

>> No.56205341

We find a lot of shizos that way too

>> No.56205376

>>56205327
True if Mori can be famous literally anyone can

>> No.56205413

>>56179240
RWBY. Great show(seasons 1-3. Then it gets bad. Really bad)
Monty Oum, may he rest in peace, said he thinks up the names like this:
Names must follow one or more of these rules:
1.Be a color
2.Sound like a color
3.Mean a color
4.Makes people think of a color

>> No.56205441

>>56204891
If you mean the one who genuinely made me jump the gun, Kiki. I'm happy to say that I'm about to debut, and I've befriended the person who inspired me the most. She's very sweet, by the way.

>> No.56205555

>>56205376
How's that working out for you?

>> No.56205616

>>56205555
I don't want to be famous are you retarded? You go get ass fucked for a gig and tell me how worth you think it is.

>> No.56205690

>>56182633
The albino furry...

>> No.56205720

>>56205413
Beryl...

>> No.56205797

>>56205690
I'm not a furry, that's just skin.

>> No.56205801

To the Nigga telling me Mocopi would stay trash despite getting the Hololive representation, Die mad

https://youtu.be/1tQR1mhtyxA

>> No.56205805

>>56205720
I have no ideea who that is

>> No.56205938
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>>56205797
One Piece did it better.

>> No.56206134

>>56196982
>>56197183
Use gloves

>>56197366
What? I know they are woman irl but they should stay behind their avatar like most of the corpo vtubers.
The moment they show their face like nyanners or kekson they are no longer considered vtubers

>> No.56206195

>>56206134
So the answer is yes, you are mtf trans and seething at the popularity of cute girls doing rtx
Got it

>> No.56206219

>>56204891
Kizuna and Eileen

>> No.56206328

>>56206195
I'm sure their boyfriends will personally thank you for your service, white knight-kun.

Imagine defending disgusting women.

>> No.56206352

>>56204891
May I ask why in particular? She got stuck in a vtweeter arc for quite a bit, kinda surprising she crawled out of it

>> No.56206377

>>56206328
LMFAO
How is it that I'm right every time

>> No.56206414

>>56206377
I'm a different anon retard, I just hate women.

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>>56206328
I agree sister. Those grapes really are sour.

>> No.56206792

>>56204891
pochi

>> No.56206917

ANON VS ANON LET'S GOOOO!!!!

>> No.56206972

>>56205938
I only ever got to the part with Usopp when I read it, forgive me...

>> No.56207234

>>56206195
> cute girls doing rtx
You know this is a vtuber board right?

>> No.56207266

>>56206352
I didn't really know of Vtubing until I saw the shitstorm on Twitter about her CPR cover. I wasn't really a normie because I've always liked anime, but I never saw Vtubers or even knew what they were before. I was in a niche anime-idol fan community that started dunking on her (I'm not a fan of the cover personally but everyone on my timeline was quoting her saying she should kill herself). I didn't think much of it and was just like, alright I don't know enough of what this thing is. Fast forward a couple of months later and I saw people start doing the same thing to fallenshadow/shondo. I started looking into Vtubing more after that because I was like why the fuck are these idol fans getting so upset over anime streamers. I remembered Sinder and started going through and watching her streams and I just really liked her. I'm still relatively new to Vtubers and Vtubing but I consider Sinder and Shondo my two favorites that really got me to get out of a toxic fanbase and get out of my shell.

>> No.56207277

>>56207234
Yep
Rtx is some of the most popular vtuber content. You cannot seethe this out of being the case

>> No.56207323

>>56207277
>Seethe
>Cope

You use one more buzzword, and I'll tell your mommy on you young sperg.

>> No.56207371

>>56207323
Don't pop a neovagina suture

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>>56207277
>rtx
Rtx?

>> No.56207409

>>56207266
Have you already started streaming yet?

>> No.56207452

>>56205441
kiki is an angel. nice to see you around, mushroom-chan. i'm looking forward to seeing what you do.

>> No.56207520

>>56204891
kiyomi pyon-pyon

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I did it bros. I'm not a 0view anymore

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>>56206972
You are forgiven young pirate. I know it's hard to focus on anything else when this sweet savory piece of manmeat is on screen.

>> No.56207611

>>56207524
good job!!

>> No.56207651

>>56207524
>.1
How does one tenth of a human being watch a video...

>> No.56207688

>>56207651
>one tenth of a human being
Woah, we call them Indonesians nowadays anon.

>> No.56207726

>>56207524
Is this the same Rin-schizo from the /wvt/ thread?
Rin you're a waste of human organs, your parents should have aborted you.

>> No.56207759

>>56207409
Naw, I'm saving up money for a PC and equipment at the moment. I don't have a PC because all I really cared for were mobile idol-based rhythm games all these years and whaling on them. I also need to finalize some concepts that I've been thinking of and have been watching a lot of different Vtubers so I can be more educated about the culture to be honest.

>> No.56208195

>>56207759
No concept ideas or anything like that?

>> No.56208269

>>56204891
I have never been motivated by inspiration, but spite.
The feeling is closer described as "if this asshole can, why can't I?".

>> No.56209013

>>56208195
I have some concepts but I don't really know which I should go with. I've gotten feedback from here from my voice and the consenus I've gotten so far is I should be myself and be the hag-mommy I'm destined to be. It's just a bit hard for me to come up with something I resonate with personally thats not too overdone and cliché. For concepts I'm between a wight (sentient zombie), a dullahan or a manticore. I want something that's supernatural or a monster because Castlevania was my favorite game growing up and I love metal music.

>> No.56209151

>>56209013
medusa?

>> No.56209825

>>56207452
thank you anon! she really is, and i hope i can be entertaining. i can never be perfect, but i can always consistently get better from how i start.

>> No.56209926

how fat is lava's ass? asking to make art

>> No.56209965

>>56204891
Unironically Nyanners

>> No.56210075

>>56209926
she just said it wasn't that fat, but follow your dreams bro

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>>56210075

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>>56204891
I credit HoloEN for getting me interested in Vtubing myself (already knew about it/always wanted to be a content creator), Luxiem for making me believe that I could make it work as a male Vtuber, and Terumi for making me take the final plunge, cause I'm also a huge idol guy. I just love the idea of being one or something like that, though I recognize the parasocial stuff and the other bad things about that may be an issue.

So far?... Well I'd say I'm doing okay, but I haven't met any goals. I'm improving my content and hit 2view. I still don't have a real concept, or even have implemented any of the idol-ish stuff/extra stuff I thought up, but I'm getting there. If it wasn't for those two groups + Terumi I'd probably not have gotten into content creation, cause I don't want to show my face/personal details. Good luck aspies.

>> No.56211750

>>56211288
Anon you seem pretty literate. Did you not finish high school, and yet manage to speak like that? Come on now. Credit some of your school teachers for the their work too.
Who taught you to speak in front of a audience? Who inspired you to give things a college try?
Funny how the powers that be want to shift the blame of the 0view upon hololive, and terumi.
You're not alone anon. Want to know something funny? I'll tell you later, but I can tell you there's a lot of people out there who are over qualified educated people working very simple manual labor, and customer service jobs.
You're not alone anon.

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>> No.56211873

>>56211750
Take your meds

>> No.56212260

>>56211852
why is every male aspie pushing me into becoming gay? what the hell is your problem guys, stop this shit NOW

>> No.56212527

>>56212260
It's not their fault the females are stingy with the pussy.

>> No.56212799

Can’t wait until /asp/ies schedule their streams around hamster so they can try to leech off of him when he raids.

>> No.56212901

>>56212260
This. I'm having thoughts I never would have a year ago.

>> No.56212988

>>56212260
same

>> No.56213211

>>56212260
You start down the pipeline with your Harus and Beryls and after a while nothing but Dantes will do

>> No.56213375

>>56212260
I'm not gay but I want my character to get dominated by a bunch of men... And sometimes women too

>> No.56213446

gay men roleplaying their straight-to-gay fantasy

>> No.56214062

>>56213446
No >>56213211 is right, they lure you in with the traps and femboys and before long you're wondering what daddy Dante's beard would feel like on your thighs. The internet was a mistake

>> No.56214082

>>56213446
exactly, all of them were born gay

>> No.56214226

>>56214082
It took vtubing to make me realize it

>> No.56214278

>>56214062
Baras are gross. Babis are gross. Femboys are the only valid males.

>> No.56214378

>>56211750
...I have no idea what you're getting at. You might want to get some sleep or take your meds anon.

I'm doing fine, and I'm self-taught when it comes to the stuff you mentioned. I don't exactly know why you feel like I'm menhera, have no high school degree and working a shit job, but okay then.

>> No.56214849

>>56214278
I like shotas , I want to give a nursing handjob to a shota

>> No.56215033

>>56214278
Start with Beryl and Haru and you'll slide down the pipeline soon enough.

>> No.56215066

>>56209013
Wait wait wait. You got advice from here, or from /here/?
It's very important to make that distinction.

>> No.56215313

>>56215033
>you'll slide down the pipeline soon enough.
I won’t because I’m not a gay. I just like fapping to femboys.

>> No.56215404

My masturbatory habits are ruining my productivity

>> No.56216131

>>56215313
Alto that makes you gay

>> No.56216203

>>56216131
No I don’t think it does.

>> No.56216348

>>56215404
know that feel, if I don't control myself I won't finish any of my projects

>> No.56216676

That boy ain't right

>> No.56216836

>>56215404
Stop masturbating. It worked great for me, I have much more time now.

>> No.56217329

>>56216836
Alternatively, cum faster

>> No.56218315

>>56217329
nta but I can't cum on demand

>> No.56218370
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I probably spend like 2-5 hours everyday just fapping, sometimes more. I've been this way since I was like 10 and my horny never goes away.

>> No.56218618

>>56218370
I can't imagine that. 10 to 15 minutes max and not every day for me. More time to watch chuubas

>> No.56218712

>>56218370
You are not alone, I get leg cramps over how long it takes me to cum

>> No.56220227

>>56218712
When I was on SSRIs I found acheiving orgasm nearly impossible to the point of furiously masturbating for about 90 minutes I'd have the most lukewarm orgasm. It got so bad I had friction lesions simply for how long and hard I'd have to go for.

Fuck SSRIs.

>> No.56222413

bump

>> No.56223089

God, I want a nursing handjob from Coco. I want those succudemon hag milkers in my mouth RIGHT NOW.

>> No.56223318

>>56220227
I'm so glad I avoided taking those

>> No.56224854

A 2view broke containment again. What excuse do you have /asp/?

>> No.56224877

>>56224854
Name and shame sister

>> No.56224884

>>56224854
It's a board for VTubers, 2views are still VTubers

>> No.56225720

>>56224854
>broke containment
Someone explain why the fuck this shit matters?

>> No.56225738

>>56225720
Schizos think small VTubers should hide in threads

>> No.56225779

Why do any of you guys bother self-branding as "/asp/" vtubers? Isn't it obvious that those who ditched that are doing way better? No one wants to associate with you, you're all crabs.

>> No.56225804

>>56225779
I don't brand as anything I just stream and dump my links here

>> No.56226029

>>56225779
i don't know a single vtuber who does that

>> No.56226480

>>56226029
The albino furry seems pretty eager to announce who he/she is in this thread.
>>56182633

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Any /asp/ie playing this gem?

>> No.56226722

>>56226480
I don't care what people do in this thread, nothing that's written here even leaves this thread. as long as they don't talk about it on stream or otherwise

>> No.56229043

>>56225779
Literally nobody does this or cares. Apart from a couple idiots reading the thread while live nobody here has even acknowledged the thread exists on stream.

This isn't a secret clubhouse it's a thread on the fastest moving board on a widely known image board frequented by scores of professional vtubers and vtuber viewers.

Basically you're an idiot and should fuck off

>> No.56229462

>>56225720
Its a larp. Schizos think they're onthe secret gacker website with exploding vans and that everyone will abandon you if they know your channel was posted here. The same way that abandoned Lex, Pippa, Lia, and every chuuba posted to /wvt/ and /lig/. They can't or pretend they can't tell the difference between posting here and branding yourself and your content as "from /vt/" or "from 4chan" as if content hinged on where the stream going live is announced.

>> No.56230785

What specs should I take most into consideration when buying a pc for streaming.

>> No.56231372

>>56230785
These questions never really go anywhere because we have no idea what you stream so "it should have RAM and a modern GPU" is as good as you get right now.

>> No.56232568

>>56216836
It's not really about time, it's the lack of energy and focus

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>>56212260
You're already gay!

>> No.56233457

>>56232642
>tenma
No thats you actually

>> No.56233990

>>56231372
>we have no idea what you stream
Don't laugh at me. Team fortress 2.

>> No.56234127

>>56233990
Gpu, ram, cpu in that order

>> No.56234964

>>56233457
>he doesn't love hags unconditionally
weak

>> No.56235279

I've finally checked Keitaro's vods because of the posts here and what the fuck. What am I doing wrong? Is it his tags? Should I copy them? Or is it because PNGs getting more and more popular?

I want to get raids too : (

>> No.56235326

>>56234964
Smokers are disgusting but drinkers are even worse. Sloppy whores thinking that alcohol makes them fun but it makes them insufferable. Any streamer who drinks for content is not worth watching

The hag part is just crust on the shit

>> No.56235415

>>56235279
he's charismatic, trying being like that

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>56235326

>> No.56235440

Smokers are gross unless you get a voice like Lemmy from motorhead. God I wish he was alive so I could suck his dick

>> No.56235524

>>56235279
I have two pieces of advice
1. Network
2. Be lucky

>> No.56235583

>>56235326
So don't go for the alcoholic smokers retard

>> No.56235810

>>56235326
Could be worse, could do drugs for content

>> No.56235932

I just checked the raiders vods, they are apparently friends. How the fuck am I supposed to compete with that? I don't HAVE any friends : ( that's why I started getting into VTubing in the first place. It's so fucking over for me.

>> No.56236102

>>56235932
Bro give it a rest.

>> No.56236428

>>56235932
I'm friends with a 1000 CCV fleshtuber but I requested her to not raid me because I want to do it organically. Give it a rest bud.

>> No.56236456

>>56236102
Can I rest my head on your lap and thus become friends?

>> No.56236811

>>56236456
Sure man. Just don't make it weird.

>> No.56237078

>>56236428
Getting raids is just a temporary injection, the native viewers you retain from it is the organic growth as you have sold them on yourself. It's basically any other advertisement attempt.

>> No.56237557

>>>/adv/29583974

New vtuber /adv/ thread up! Post your menora mondays, and what not.

>> No.56237729

>he's here
pls no

>> No.56237830

>>56237729
like always, just ignore and hide. and report if it's breaking any rules.

>> No.56238066

>Upload a song every week
>Views not increasing but subscriber count is
Maybe I should get a soundcloud

>> No.56238106

>>56237078
A big raid has so much more value than any old regular advertisement. Especially if the raider includes any sort of endorsement. Just the added fact that any viewer in the raid is basically guaranteed to watch streams when you are streaming is such a huge advantage. So many wasted ad impressions go to people who's active viewing hours will never align with when you actually stream.

>> No.56238131

>>56214378
I have a highschool degree, and college credit, but nobody will hire me because my skin is too dark.
That isn't the point though. The point is to give credit where credit is due.
No man is a island, and I think you may be over crediting terumi, and undercrediting the people who brought you up to be privleged enough to discover vtubers in the first place.

>> No.56238207

>>56238131
shut up schizo no one cares

>> No.56238996

>>56236428
You're dumb, just take the raid if you're also female
I once had pride too and it got me nowhere

>>56238066
Nice, it's probably tricky to make it as a utaite but keep it up, they probably only watch the songs they already know and like

>> No.56239094

>>56238207
What a relief honestly. I've been keeping that inside for years.

>> No.56241541

>>56177973
I'll probably ask this the next thread since this one is about to die, but has anyone here applied to V&U?

>> No.56241923

>>56235279
He only gets raided by his friend.
It's literally just networking.

>> No.56243753

Using your friends is networking

>> No.56244979

I’m a married guy in my 30s who likes to play FFXIV and talk about the lore and setting and I’ve got a model.

Should I post here or would it be a mistake?

>> No.56245052

Average viewer went back down to one
>>56244979
Huh? What does that have to do with this? Yeah posting here is a good way to start off. I'm going to decapitate you.

>> No.56245530
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>>56245052
I don’t have a better picture of it now. It’s not a unique model for me but I got it from nizima and modified the colors.

>> No.56245648

>>56245530
Ah yes. A Harry Potter fan. AUTISM!

>> No.56245712

good luck guys

>> No.56245716

>>56245648
Fuck it really does look like HP robes doesn’t it? It’s a hoodie but the artist made it stupid big. I thought I should go with the sweater vest and shirt only but…

>> No.56245747

>>56244979
>Should I post here or would it be a mistake
If you post here you might get watched. Its all down hill from there

>> No.56246125

>>56245712
Rest in peace

>> No.56246190

>>56193981
its pride basically, channers are conditioned into thinking trying=bad. if you cant succeed by just existing then you dont deserve to make it. if you network? clout chasing. if you market? fucking shill. if you do gfe/asmr? fucking whore. if you appeal to literally anything? pandering.

>> No.56246197

>>56245747
I’m mostly a lore channel so I don’t know if people would watch me just play games.

>> No.56247259

>>56246190
It's not really "trying", it's that most of the actions you described are shameless and things I look down on
You can put in a lot of effort without being a whore you know

>> No.56247322

>>56247259
you're a faggot

>> No.56247344

>>56247259
lol

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My esl 2view oshi just became a 3view. She said she is starting to have trouble reading chat.
I knew this wouldn't last forever. But I'm glad it happened.

>> No.56247756

>>56194430
Not that anon, but something as simple as a name. A lot of people here have names that aren’t catchy or marketable. There’s even one or two that are fucking unpronounceable. A name is the most basic thing you can work on, it’s free, and people still drop the ball with it.

>> No.56248207

>>56247756
Berzelius Bondage.
Now laugh you stupid animal.

>> No.56248250

>>56247259
When you're on the bottom its hard to care what you are looking down on baby boy

>> No.56248353

>>56247756
Name one unpronounceable aspie

>> No.56248546

>>56248353
he probably means alva's full name which is a mouthful but but easily pronounced if you actually try

>> No.56248722

>>56248546
Thats literally the only challenging name I can think of too

>> No.56248950

>>56248353
people were memeing about l clonk earlier I guess

>> No.56248993

>>56245712
F

>> No.56249104

I remember someone a while back who was confused by "ae"

>> No.56249186

>>56248250
>just be yourself
>do all the things which aren't you to succeed
It's closer to that than looking down on everyone who succeeded because they "sold out"
I'm not a whore so I don't want to do GFE because that's not what I'm about, but I'll still cry about being stuck at 20ccv

>> No.56249397

>>56247259
theres the pride talking, this attitude of "im too good to need to do these shameful things". or the attitude of "its not worth it if i need to stoop to this level" that this board brain washed you into believing

>> No.56249573

>>56248353
llllclonq? le cronk? Ill chronic? Idk its retarded and idk how to even spell it

>> No.56249793

>>56249186
So don't fall for the gfe meme. Chuubas plateau on that fast. If you have something people want to see they'll watch it. Equating advertising to "selling out" is weird.

>> No.56249831

>>56247259
i hope you are just baiting because that mindset is going to make you even more miserable than the regular menhera

>> No.56249864

>>56249573
L:Q
L colon Q
#wow
#woah

>> No.56249919

>>56247259
Mindfully yourself to shame. You're already cringe. You're a vtuber.

>> No.56249946

>>56249919
*mindkill

>> No.56250233

>>56246197
You could have Q&A streams or do raids with your viewers

>> No.56250441

Goodbye to another thread. Hope the next will be better

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>>56250233
That’s a good idea, thank you! Is it worth starting over on Twitch or should I stream on my YT account.

>> No.56250721

>>56250585
YT in your case since that's where you're established

>> No.56250948

>>56250585
a lot of people started on youtube and jumped ship to twitch when they realized it's got much better networking potential, but if you've already got an audience I'd say either stick with youtube or only dip your toes into twitch streaming to see if the jump is worth it.

>> No.56250951

>>56244979
the problem with xiv is, your viewers are in 99% of cases players who play and have finished everything. people who don't play cant get anything out of your stream unless you are somehow a charismatic god and even then you need to somehow make them to click on your stream.

I have always believed mmo's in general are a huge debuff just by nature of the subject matter.

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