/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Default poses

>>56102472
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

I enjoyed the 3view fest in today's VerseN L4D2 collab. They sucked, but it was nice.

What the fuck is PASH!

Do Nijis have a different waiting room culture?

Reminder, Watame is the best holo with the greatest music!

>Kiara indoctrinating Nerissa to play on the old EN Minecraft server
Fucking hell

>my 2view is sad about her numbers again
bros...

>>56102263
It’s not about being expensive, but the fact that they have no mean to make money back from them, literally vanity projects
Before you say ad rev or views or something similar, no, that alone is not enough to break even . I know for fucking sure that despite the gigantic numbers, Marine covers simply does not make back the amount of money she dumped on it

>>56102564
>VerseN
>3view
they been inclining?

>>56102299
just frame the firing as brand protection and will to push the market in the chosen direction, investors love ruthless terminations it gives confidence in the executives

Here a question why are we assuming that Jap as any legitimate corporate authority over the Holo Stars EN branch for all we know that branch could have a different director so Jap as no authority over them

>>56102645
Based

>>56102531
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>66,070: Pekora (Hololive)
>63,747: Hinano (VSPO)
>49,250: Miko (Hololive)
>42,194: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>37,195: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>33,069: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>27,868: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>22,669: Lui (Hololive)
>21,930: Flare (Hololive)
>19,957: AZKi (Hololive)
>19,674: Calliope (Hololive)
>19,470: Gura (Hololive)
>16,908: Nerissa (Hololive)
>16,748: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>16,454: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>15,829: Chloe (Hololive)
>15,692: Mio (Hololive)
>15,653: Towa (Hololive)
>15,628: Lui (Hololive)
>15,607: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,361: Mumei (Hololive)
>15,054: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,780: Bijou (Hololive)
>14,573: Furen (Nijisanji)
>13,951: Botan (Hololive)
>13,519: Leos (Nijisanji)
>13,382: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,973: Luna (Hololive)
>12,359: Reid (Neo-Porte)
>12,271: NeruMero (Indie)
>11,372: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,446: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,146: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,034: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

>>56102647
Sounds good number wise, or i'm missing something?

>>56102672
I'd imagine they make it all back and more in the celebration zatsudan that usually follows.

>>56102693
VEE and Prism collabs been helping

>>56102693
Not really. It was just a big collab. Itsuki and Mona are still around 50 usually.

>>56102745
Old EN server vs. the new combined server

Red Bull sure does love these two

>>56102299
>WE CAN SAVE THIS
>as Jap looks at the balance sheet

[Koyo News] Good things for gen5 and Botan (and Aqua)

>>56102801
>Still no max verstappen collab
Meh

>>56102800 (me)
>pic

>>56102647
kiara still kiara uh, she want that dead server to rival old JP and ID but you need true minecra autists for that and it's all wasted effort in the end, just embellish the EN section of the conjoined server you damn runt

>>56102792
>>56102801
>FPS girls
Twa...

>>56102759
>Celebration zatsudan
Yeah but only because she coupled it with her anni and birthday
I am talking about cover in general. Even Miko 9 million views cover probably doesn’t generate that much money from YouTube

>>56102792
Aqua would shower with red bull if someone told her that it wasn't a retarded idea

>>56102527

>>56102669
Go on, shill her so #s can judge her worth, don't be shy...

>>56102910
But that would be kino...

HOLO CITY
HOLO EARTH
HOLO LIFE

What's Hololife?

>>56102633
Wtf, that's rosemi? I thought it was Anya

>VSPO has never had a graduation
Holobronies and Nijisisters btfo. VSPO is the future.

>>56102838
that autistic weirdo is the type who would watch Hololive but rather die than admit it to anyone

>>56102892
Ironically that is good for EN in the long run, they need to do their own thing. Can’t just fuse their thing together with JP and call it a day

>>56102263
Art, mixing, instrumental, animation if it has. An utaite can learn most of them and make it on the cheap or having it on the lower budget.
What some holo pay is almost industry level budget unless you have connections or the big industry behind you (Marine, Suisei as example on the first and Mori in the second). Because of that and how shitty the revenue for the covers are, is burning money on the community and other chances to monetize it like Lives or album releases.
Axel is just dumb, as he has the utaite connections but never used it.

oh wow, c102 scans are slowly getting released. There's a lot of Blue Archive

>>56102792
God I wish I was sponsored by an energy drink company. Seeing shit like this makes me want to be somebody...
>>56102910
B12 is good for your skin though (probably)

>>56103039
Qpi will graduate soon

>it won't be so one-sided
Mori...

Lol feel like Chicken is trying so hard to actually accomodate Nerissa, simply because of her own experience with Pekora.
Kinda sweet, ngl.

>>56102669
just groom her bro

>>56102892
Need at least HoloEn4 and HoloEn5 for reviving en server lol.

>>56102900
covers are good because they pull from outside the box. hitting meme songs or some gacha shit pulls hard.

What a mouthful

>>56103039
What happened to the small vulnerable corpo that we aren’t supposed to shit on? Because it’s “Le bad”

>Iroha ni hohetto
>Koyori doesn't put Iroha illustration
KOYOKEKS WILL DEFEND THIS!

>>56103078
Don't forget licensing fees as an expense. Some record companies are absolutely ruthless with their prices.

>>56103008
more like HOLLOW LIFE lmao

>>56103115
Wonder if this is how Festival would've been if she ended up joining Ichikara.

>>56102633
Their "waiting room culture" is to be in the low 3/4 digits then suddenly balloon by 20x.

>>56103055
JP and ID basically abandoned the old servers no? what does it bring having the new girls build a dirt hut alone in the old EN server instead to work in the trident/stonk/tree zone near Okayu base? Pekora wanted to build also in proximity iirc

>>56103027
>>56102633
that shit is one of the worst outfit teaser thumnails ive ever seen it fucking looks like a vrchat chibi

>free 3rd fes
damn that's actually really nice

New idea for JP7?

>>56103152
>>56103173
>normal spelling has the full name
>only AyaFubuMi in moonrunes
heh

>>56103078
I'm pretty sure small utiaite copy-paste the original MV, copy-paste the official instrumental, and then just sing their cover and do some mild mixing.
See: Ado pre-Universal.

Gaijin welcome or ABEMA is only for nips?

>>56102369
Her PC was built last year and ran ER fine with L2D. I don't understand how the Cover app is so heavy.

Oh it's a 3rd fes broadcast, I thought it was 4th fes

I love Gura.

>>56103276
sentai team

Its over for bibo, mr leader going to overlap her

>>56103284
I don't get it

I finally got around to watching a clip of advent and man those bau bau dogs really are special. I can see why they are so loved. They have this crazy chemistry like they share one mind and it feels so natural. I was skeptical at first because I just felt that having two people share a channel is a recipe for drama and interpersonal conflicts, but after seeing how they interact and play off each other it feels lile they genuinely get each other.

>>56102669
Use money to make her yours and turn her into your trad wife.

Is this how corruption looks like?

[Koyo Serious News] She's making a move to sway Konami away from NIjisanji!

>>56103304
probably it's because the L2D isn't local but remote on the Cover HQ server and kinda load much more than it's needed by the singular holomem

>>56103276
Holo 7egends

>>56103305
ABEMA is open to anyone in the world who has a Japanese VPN

>>56102669
I watched my 2 view turn into a 4 view and one of the most superchatted small corpos in a year and a half

>>56103304
it's the app they can switch 3D with.

>>56103145
But we are not talking about that, we are talking about money, and covers by itself does not generate money
And even then do you think everyone cover just get millions? Some Holo pump out covers with the view of an average big stream from First Army, they certainly don’t make back from it or gained any reach from it. Your post is entirely hasty generalization, citing only the top of the industry as example

>>56103335
The day gura plays cod black ops will be the day #s gets called out fr kek

>>56102892
Kiara doesn't realize how regressive that is.

>>56103305
Isn't it that Japan wide thing?

>>56103286
>small utiaite copy-paste the original MV, copy-paste the official instrumental
Other than for Vocaloid, for most tracks there is no "official instrumental".
For quite some time the Holo girls would sing over inferior versions of even Ahoy, until Marine sent them the official backing track

>>56103305
Nice hope they have live chat function. the chat or audience is half the fun for this kind of event. That's why people go to live concert for the audience reaction

>>56103368
Full spelling in moonrunes is this.
>いろはにほへっとあやふぶみ
What was shown is only the AyaFubuMi part.
>あやふぶみ

>>56103335
I love Gura more though

>>56103223
I was talking more about the attitude
More often than not Kiara want EN to do something of their own to match the JP branch. Which is good no matter how you look at it

>>56103276
HoloPantheon

>>56103510
Yes I can read, how is that interesting in any way you autist

>>56103422
Just use roll back ez

>>56103115
I saw this posted in global, but I think it’s a really sweet summary of why Kiara’s trying so hard.

https://youtu.be/fTjOaXXMjRI

>>56102892
Runt giving runt advice. Other than a the first-time tour, going back to the old EN server is going to be a numbers killer

[Sad News] Aqua is an exhibitionist

>>56103115
It probably helps that Nerissa is pushing exactly all the right autistic buttons while knowing her

>>56103408
Holo... KOSHIEN?

>BETTER KOSHIEN
KINO KOSHIEN
>BETTER KOSHIEN
KINO KOSHIEN
>BETTER KOSHIEN
KINO KOSHIEN
>BETTER KOSHIEN
KINO KOSHIEN

NIJISISTER RESPONSE?

>>56103008
New Lawson collab in December

>>56103276
one of the girls has a big scar on her face.
or a burn mark
would oshi in a second

>>56103408
>>56103411
>>56103694
You guys do realize Kanata been playing PowerPro before Koyori even exist right? This is not a new development

>>56103408
Koshien with the blue dorito? Now we're talking. Finally, I'll get to experience the Beautiful Game but in my own tribe.

>>56103305
>cannot be seen in your region
It's over...

T. Minus 30mins for Biboo

>>56103603
This video made me hate Kiara, Nerissa, every KFP and honestly just everything in general

>>56103694
WE NEED MORE VOX YASHIRO XDDDDD
Niji memes are fucking horrible

[Sad News] Hololive gang of girls bullied a mentally impaired onion-like girl and ate her rice cakes

>>56103560
Yeah, it's getting kind of embarrassing if ID and JP is organizing big events while EN just participates without doing something themselves, hopefully that will change now when the girls are more motivated and also more numerous

>>56103505
>Other than for Vocaloid
...isn't that 99% of every budgetless utaite's repertoire though? And for the other 1%, uh, see picrel? Do you really think she did much more than hack together an AMV for the second one?

>>56103824
Biboo now (forma de Koyoleaks)

Japan is now aware of Undertale mods being a OK

>>56103830
t.reine

>>56103794
fuck that koshit. but i dont mind if they follow the format as Puyo Tetris
>announcement, lineup
>then tournament next week

>>56103560
she should do like her oshi then and stream minecraft regularly if she want to inject lore and attention in the EN server, but all might just be in vain if EN3 already look over Kaela for minecraft guidance.

>>56103115
It's to deal with the trauma of how Mori treated her early on.

>>56103830
That sounds like a "you" issue

>>56103864
Lmao yeah perfect timing

>>56103862
kek, you're picking the most absolute success case of all of the industry.
Below her cushy throne there is a pyramid of low viewed utaites whose only expense was a moderately better mic costing 10000 yen, an expense they still didn't make back with their 756 views in their videos

>>56103603
Omg sister this is such a wholesome 100 big chungus moment, I'll share this on reddit right now!!!

mococo underboob

>Bijou-chan

[Snitching News] Koyori is denouncing Bijou to the IP holders of Undertale!

Saw a Vtuber on DL site. Sold 5k copies of a 3d VR "ASMR" for 16 dollars each. Went to Ahoy and examined it. It was nice. Wont watch her but good for fap material at least. but that's a nice haul for something that was likely produced for a low cost and no shipping for a 2 view.

>>56103276
HoloRIDERS. All of them ride something unique, like a not-horse, car, mech, ect

what is their purpose again? enlighten me /#/ bros

Wait I just remembered Toby Fox is a holofag, no wonder Undertale mods are ok

>>56103794
BELO JOGO WITH HORORAIBU GANGS

>>56104054
More like all of them ride my dick. NEXT!

>>56104045
ASMR specialists with ANY level of competence can make a living for themselves.

>>56104071
Helping people catch up with ongoing events I believe

>>56103962
My point is that the most absolute success case...is the official "MV" (repeated a couple times) the official instrumental, and maybe a hacked-together AMV at most. A balance sheet of somewhere between zero and piracy. Hololive is anally retentive about copyright, but someone with no budget and no fucks to lose isn't going to, nor has any need, to commission fuckall or have any notable technical skills.

>>56104076
I wonder if he'd be willing to have a Holo as a guest at his next Undertale anniversary event.

>>56104045
Patra does 20k+ buys on her ASMR, even bigger numbers than something like official Azur Lane and Blue Archive ASMR sold in DLsite.

>>56104076
he made Maribako
he's more than a holofag, he's a business partner

>>56104071
to collab with the girls of course, dumb incel unicorn

i never liked honorific translations until seeing koyo do it
its just cute now

>>56103785
Pekora could have started an arc on her side too...
https://vrabi.net/video/rE6SWgDkuuw
https://youtu.be/rE6SWgDkuuw

>>56104161
Yeah it took me a minute to remember that he used an alias for that

>>56104076
He should also watch da bois. They're also fans of Undertale especially Magni

>>56104071
Bettel carrying hard.

>>56104133
>but someone with no budget and no fucks to lose isn't going to, nor has any need, to commission fuckall or have any notable technical skills.
That's absolutely true and it is a summary of the vtuber industry for every endeavor, not only covers.

The original question was "what makes a cover so expensive" in the context of "why is it unreasonable to believe Axel would pump one per month" so, "for Hololive" was implied

>>56104123
yea, just didn't realize they could pull so much money from DL site. First time looking up the vtubers on there. Kind of explains how some 2-3 views get by though. Gather fans on YT and sell them lewd asmr on DL site.

[Sad News] Nene abandoned her genmates in favor of beetles

>>56104032
>>56103995
>Pay someone else you mod a game
>say you did it
Now you are in Hololive

>>56104251
>Nene abandoned her genmates in favor of beetles
anyone would abandon gokisei anon

>>56104232
if Axel had his own people or skills he could easily afford to hit a cover a month.

>>56104238
As >>56104148 mentioned, Patra is the queen of DL ASMR. She made over 1.5M USD with only 3 voice packs there.

>>56104251
NENE COLLAB WITH GAY CLOWN
>TO
>THE
>CATALOG

>>56104076
Toby is unironically too strong
Man is literally a fucking unstoppable force and that's all on the back of his fucking demo project that he made so that he could make the game he ACTUALLY cared about after (Deltarune). And that test project propelled him to fucking iconic status in Japan while getting him ins to basically every big shot digital-focused corporation in the Japanese media scene.
Bro is insane, you gotta respect that

>>56103785
Kanata just wants to play baseball, but Koyori hungers for events

>>56104148
Patra's huge though as far as ASMR goes. I expect her to get big numbers. Also she probably doesn't need to be nearly as lewd as some other girls to get them. It's like the cuter a girl is, the less lewd she has to be to sell.

>>56104045
>fap material
what's the content, fingering? dildo?

>>56103081
>There's a lot of Blue Archive
Blue Archive momentum is too strong and its not slowing down anytime soon

>>56104251
More like Nene was abandoned. No wonder why husbands are going to BAU BAU.

>>56104298
>if Axel had his own people or skills he could easily afford to hit a cover a month.
If Axel could afford (in time, money and effort) a cover a month by his personal contacts alone he wouldn't have signed with Holostars in the first place.

>>56104071
instrumental for the defenestration of old english management and demonstration that a change course to walk the same path of the holoJP senpais was needed to thrive and prosper.

>>56104317
just a broke brain that gets off to wooshing noises

>>56104313
Hop off that dick buddy

Fauna has abandoned me...

With the guest list I'm surprised this was one of the lowest birthday streams. Chat and stream are jp

>>56104304
>only 3 voice packs
Each with like 20 hours of ASMR on them which she sold for extremely cheap (about the same price that holo charges for a 3 minute voice collection)

Koyori is too strong, effortlessly beat a huge Z peak

[Abuse News] Koyori reveals the scandalous truth about holomen using their kouhais for sexual relief

>>56104363
but then... collabs??

>>56104071
poor Uyu is the runtest runt that ever runted
i wonder why, i really don't keep up with Uproar

>>56104418
Is that Hinano from Brave Group VSPO Vtuber Agency?

>>56103335
I love when she talks about farts.

>>56104313
Same with Kay Yu and his team. He's already "in" but I hope the steam release of Holocure propels him higher, dude doesn't want money wtf

>>56104418
It lost to Anya

>>56104232
As an indie, you don't have to pay or get perms for covers.
I recall one of the Holos mentioned that for a really popular, iconic vocaloid song (she didn't name it), the producer was charging thousands of dollars for the perms to cover it.
Indies can get away with just a simple pic MV but there's higher expectations for a corpo vtuber.

>>56104445
still using the JP/EN gartic collab pfp, cute foobs

>>56104433
>(about the same price that holo charges for a 3 minute voice collection
About the same price NIJI charges for it, as it was the exact comparison made when Nijisanji put their voice packs there
>which among other things led Nijisanji to demand their sales numbers not to be disclosed ni that site

>>56104418
Don't people hate her now, I thought she was the next on getting Zion'd

>>56104071
Holy shit that nigga is indie tier

>>56104418
maybe what that one ex-fan said was right...
either they make nijisanji a worldwide thing and demolish branches or they move her to the JP branch.

>>56104396
his senchou contribution was mid you can just hear it its his same shit
pokemon tho

>>56104317
It's First person POV VR so she's basically climbing on you rubbing chest kissing stroking sucking. things like that. had a clothed, underwear and full nude scenario. I don't spend money on such things but, I wouldn't have regretted it if I had I suppose. No male involved but there's (you)

>>56104397
SAPLING!
STOP!
YOU WILL START THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR MOUNT HOLYMPUS!

>>56103081
>>56104342
Yeah, fucking ojisan otakus of Hololive don't want to share their goods in comparison

>>56104559
Yeah, my friend gets about the same viewership and he does it just to relax from work. Uyu must have another job

>>56102611
Kissing with tongues

>>56104418
Kotoka doesn't really have many fans left cause she acts like a JP in a EN branch. She would unironically incline if NijiEN got merged.
>>56104508
It sounds like he and Cover came to some sort of agreement regarding Holocure but who knows what it is.
I'm guessing Cover might want to make merch out of it and they'll give him a split.

>>56104576
>his senchou contribution was mid
Maribako???? Dude shat out the most wildly successful vtuber original ever

Someone enhance

>>56104418
What a slut. Already leeching off of Hinano after the big 3D.

>>56103276
retro cyberpunk nazis
neo steampunk soviets
futuristic traditional shinobi and samurais
pastel gothpunk cyber magical girls

>>56104612
I know EN priconnect died, how is jp?

>>56104363
Nah, the point I was trying to make is that his contacts probably wouldn't be worth much when the lower end of utaite don't have any skills worth hiring, on account of not actually needing to do much of anything if you don't give a fuck about copyright.

>>56104541
Only sisters who feel like She's got Japanese peivelege. I mean she does but her career is more secure than any Luxiem time bombs so they'll protect her over them kek

>>56103039
>BUISIPO >>>>> TinKing
Nijikeks status?

>:3

>>56104483
No, it's Mabodofu, an indie vsinger/utaite

>>56104612
PAY UP

>>56104523
>As an indie, you don't have to pay or get perms for covers.
Anon, you absolutely do have to pay and get perms for covers.
The fact they do it without permission and nobody bothers squashing a 750 views small time utaite with a lawsuit for copyright infringement is something different from being allowed to do so.

For the most part nobody would care if you plug your cellphone for a quick charge in an electrical outlet on some office lobby but if a delivery company plus their electric scooter there for a battery charge between deliveries they'll get escorted out of the premises and, if the owner of the office is inclined, face theft charges

Speaking of DLSite sales, Karin's is just 2 away from 15k sales.

>>56104724
>The fact they do it without permission and nobody bothers squashing a 750 views small time utaite with a lawsuit for copyright infringement...
... means that you don't have to pay, yup.

>>56104721
She's not a vsinger, newfag.

>>56104723
Fuckin Japs, sell them overseas too

>>56104418
Is Mya there? I will watch the stream if so

[Good News] Noel is raising the quality of her membership content

>>56104668
most damning thing is facebook

look at these chat speeds, find anything suspicious?

>>56104700
Nah, a good mixer goes a long way to make a track pop up and highlight the quality of the singer

>>56104594
hmm... $16 is indeed cheaper than $50 prosti bj, risk free at that

>>56104765
She streamed with Live2D before
She focuses on singing
Close enough

>>56104527
That was such an amazing gartic phone collab

>>56104762
>have to
You and I disagree on the meaning of "have to".

this girl got a mouth

Templerance...

Temp-

>>56104773
You can buy from Toranoana and Melonbooks anon.

>>56104800
>Nerissa is SEANigger confirmed
Adventkeks status?

>>56104724
>you absolutely do have to pay and get perms for covers
No, you don't. They'd just monetize your cover. Pursuing legal remedies is extra cost for them.

[THIEVING NEWS] KOYORI IS STEALING HER COMPETITOR GIMMICK, BUT USING BOOTLEG TAROT CARDS TO AVOID BEING SUED FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT BY MIO!

>>56104871
>cunny collab

>>56104808
rumao

>>56104668
lesbian porn...

>>56104871
She's pleased as hell to have a big community, she was very cute during that FFXIV stream and you could tell how thrilled she was that so many people wanted to watch and interact with her

>>56104898
Thanks

Kotoka is my favorite in NijiEN

IRyS mention on news!

>>56104871
Luna collab would be hilarious. They wouldn't be able to talk to each other though.

>>56104784
She's just speaking moonspeak by herself now

>>56104871
AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56104910
See >>56104870

>>56104808
kek kuzuha's has the speed of a 10k stream

>>56104926
Tempus reference? Koyori confirmed for sister

>>56104871
this fucking child

>>56104955
>en

>>56104926
>TEMPLERANCE
MISUNDERSTANDING!

>>56104989
<TRIPLE LUNA?!
>TRIPLE LUNA!

>>56104871
>137 prechats
Wow, Shiori~n would have way over 100k yen with that much buttering up chat.

>>56104808
Nijisanji has a large crossover with the golf audience

>>56104756
I wonder what's more lucrative for her. To sell packs on DLSite or her Cien/YT membership/supas?

holy fuck. at this point, i'd just put it on 'read'

>>56104870
You're just being difficult, it is a de facto reason why literally who shitters can put out covers without going bankrupt

>Templerance
Tonight is the night, white letter bros.

[Koyo News] Koyori is telling you to check out new fast food places in order to find the objectively best deep-fried food

>>56104926
Is Koyori the witch's apprentice? Who is Watamage's? Fauna?

>>56104999
Nah. People do cover songs mostly as a draw for their channel rather than directly earning money off it.

Hey, let me test a theory here, just to make sure this makes sense. I call it "Lifecycle of a Holo," but it may apply to high-to-mid level Nijis, too.
>Stage one: Debutante. Focus entirely on making an impression for the audience, and build your fanbase up over time while working on side projects for big box exposure. Most of your "big moments" will be linked to your generational unit at this point, and will be limited.
>Stage two: Metamorphosis. If you manage to make a strong name for yourself, this is where you start to take on more and more projects. You've likely formed connections with other talents outside of your generation, or maybe found a VERY deep bond within your own to keep going. After your 3D debut, you'll start to get more individual growth projects, be it Orisongs, brand partnerships, or 3DLives. This will come at the cost of active stream time, but your fanbase has been grown enough where that isn't too much of a problem, as you still give them content.
>Sub-stage: Worker. If you do not have an especially strong individual growth stage, you will likely end up in the Worker sub-stage, where you do not progress to Stage three, but instead become a primarily content-focused talent. Your fans will be happy that they get so much content in the form of streams, but you will have a reduced rate of things like 3D lives, orisongs, or licensing deals, with much of those opportunities coming from your original Generational obligations and bonds. Your primary task is to keep the broad Box content while others go on to the next Stage.
>Stage three: Elevation. If you exhibit supreme brand expansion capacity, you will be in this stage. You will serve as an "Icon," and will primarily spend your time on projects meant to grow both your wide appeal, and the company's overall brand. You'll get special 3DLives, lots of brand deals (and may even be a "default" brand talent at one point), help with Orisongs and special event hostings, but your regular content time will be slashed as a result. Fans will primarily be satiated on these big events for you specifically, but will typically end up spending their day-to-day time with Worker talents to fill your typical content gap. You may even develop bonds with specific Worker talents to help elevate them, and tie your own fanbase to theirs while you are holed up. The gaps you leave in stream content also help to drive fans to new Debutante talents as they appear.
Seems about accurate to me as a baseline theory?

>>56104541
>>56104418
i don't know what people are supposed to think about her but this doesn't feel like beloved

>>56104871
Shiori... don't... look...

>>56104871
Different flavor to Shiori.
Shiori tries to groom you.
Meanwhile biboo is just like that one enthusiastic little sister who is so eager to tell her parents stories from her new school.

>>56104808
here, you should fix them to the same scale for a better view

>>56105117
Didn't read

>>56104989
HOLY BASEDROCK

>>56105059
ID4 I belib

>>56105068
kek

>>56105117
Ogey

>>56105069
If you products are good, then DLSite, even with the constant 15%-20% sale.

>>56104950
Her mind was blowed when the rooms were instantly filled

>only 4k waiting
welp another Gura EN gold

>>56105063
Oof, all that wasted effort but no money made. Sorry pebblebros, your oshi is going to stay poor.

>5k waiting for bijou
it's why i hate people who try to declare debut buffs and honeymoons over so soon. it will be months upon months of things that can still propel these girls to 15k+

>>56105110
I agree with that. Again, my only disagreement is in the meaning of "have to".
They "have to", they don't because it doesn't benefit them and the possibility of repercussion is small enough for it to be worth abiding by the rules.
It's no different from doing a "full stop" on a stop sign vs a "rolling stop". In most, if not all jurisdictions you
>have to
do a full stop at a Stop sign in any context.
Most people just don't tho, specially at night or in periods with zero transit (and no cops camping for that sweet ticket)

>>56105214
>>56105252
She's gonna get the Gura waiting room buff, trust the plan

1 2 SAN SEA!!!

>>56105063
Streamer vs GFE timebomb baiting SCs
I'll take the former

>>56105068
keked

>>56104664
Marine is not RIM, tranny.

>>56105120
Damn.

>Biboo has literally never played Holocure before
Did this fucking autist literally go
>"I WILL be in Hololive, and because of that, I CANNOT do things that would make my Holo viewers miss out on my first time experiences with Holo content despite being a huge fan of them myself"
Is she insane?

>>56105063
You said this right as she got 200 bucks

>>56105294
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_BFL-kuWs
SHI SHI!
>UMISEA UMISEA!
SHI SHI!
>UMISEA UMISEA!

>>56105345
she's biboo ofc she's insane

>KOYORI SCHEDULE
PowerPro all day everyday plus a full parallel schedule to go with it

>>56105345
She's so cute

>>56104808
It's a hardcore run too with three other livers, so there should have obviously been plenty of things to react to as a viewer.

>>56105324
Maribako is going to unseat carnivorous plant soon enough

>>56105214
The fuck? That's a very good waiting room

>>56105345
she did that to Zelda too. she's too precious, made her entire existence for making content in hololive.

>>56105390
holy shit koyori you beast

>>56105444
it's good, but not Gold contender good

Flare is violent and unpredictable...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irdbvReGq4

>>56105434
Don't care, didn't ask.

>>56105390
So any Koyoshien highlights so far?

>>56105390
Koyoshien? Is she going to get Belo Jogo's as well?

>>56104871
It's like I'm seeing into the future for why she's gonna have her inevitable "Medical break" arc

>>56105345
>After watching Myth, Hololive is literally her goal for even becoming a vtuber for 2 fuckin years. Hololive or nothing
Yes

>>56104871
>all those messages
>not a single GFE bait
Damn one of her genmates should take a look at this

>She left DVR on
It's Bijouver

>>56103623
not so much if it's at least semi-active old server is a numberkiller because it's dead but fans do have a lot of nostalgia over it

>>56105526
She is eating more after debut than before.

>>56105526
burger means pregnancy?

>>56105390
Pekora's peak two years ago on the game was 24k on the story mode, can she do better with a full playthrough?

>>56105345
No, she's just a human
After all nothing but a human could decide their existence to their dream

>>56105390
>shamelessly doing content because Niji did it, while trying to make it better than them with a Holo spin
I can see why /#/ loves the coyote, she's scrappy, I like that

>>56105569
Why would she do GFE if she's not that?

When the FUCK will there be a Hololive World Cup? Fuck Boreball. I cannot believe it counts as a """sport"""

>>56105526
why would you buy that many with a loli stomach... is she going to be okay with american size

>>56105345
she just has the brain of a child

>>56105569
She's a child

>>56105252
People don’t even know what honeymoon means. And I say this with confidence, because it seems to me like this thread is made up of a bunch of newfags who joined solely during the NijiEN era and witnessed 3 waves completely shit the bed and think that’s the standard everywhere. It’s fucking stupid as shit.

To make more of an example of it, people often make it sound like these girls are going to go from a 8-11k average down to like 3k in a month, not in a shitposting way but because they think honeymoon = giga omega buff that gives them 6000% more ccv. That’s just retarded. If you’re a standout who puts on a brilliant display, you’re not going from 15k to 5k. More than likely you’re going to remain in that 9-13k area because you’ve solidified yourself as a person people want to watch. Likewise, people who are “not performing the same” are not suddenly going to be 3k ccv talents. Sometimes you become a Fauna who never found many tourists initially but ALWAYS kept the same core fans through their career, and GREW from that.
It’s just so god damn annoying that people constantly seem to think that honeymoon phase is just this fake fan phase where everyone disappears in a blink of an eye. Hololive doesn’t let that happen to anyone. You can be a shitter and you’ll STILL have people willing to tune into content

>>56105117
That too much word, you know Cover have a page in their financial report dedicated to explaining this right?

>>56105608
Fuck that's a good line

>>56104541
>>56104574
No, a few of them do, and then some schizo fans want her to speak more english.

>>56105509
when did the official channel become shortsgod

>6788 final waiting room
14k-15k peak maybe?

>>56105581
rookie mistake

Fucking love Biboo's intro

>>56105129
Bijou is what people have in mind when they tell you to watch 2views

KIRA KIRA KOSEKI~~

>>56105619
I think you missed my point

>>56105569
LGFE.

>>56103047
Verstappen is a Watamage supporter, Perez is a filthy Milliemage simp

>>56105687
Maybe higher, she is the first Advent to play this

>>56102472
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Interview with Connect the World staff
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1691011783820214272
>Japan wide hololive lottery at Lawson
https://twitter.com/kuji_st/status/1690890986036371456

Yesterday's news:
>Blue Journey tickets are on sale
https://www.zan-live.com/en/live/detail/10308

>>56105687
with DVR on? no chance

>>56105656
I know
ToT

>>56098314
>Plus those 3 has always been the runts.

holy newfag Bae yes but Ame and Calli used to be extremely popular.

>>56105117
Seems accurate. Stage three is only reserved for top of the line talent though and maybe some talents who I think would be workers tend to not show up either for regular streams so I don't know. If we're going by your definition though, I'd say the only stage 3 talents are
>All of gen 0 outside of Roboco and Azki (although Azki might be moving on to Stage 3 soon enough)
>Gen 1: FBK
>Gen 2: Aqua, Subaru, maybe Ayame
>Gamers: Korone for sure, maybe Okayu
>Gen 3: Pekora and Marine.
>Gen 4: N/A
>Gen 5: N/A
>Gen 6: N/A but Koyori might be close.

>>56105727
we call that the daughterwife experience

Holy shit.. Is this the most obvious EN gold we had since yesterday?

>>56105509
around elves

>3 chicken nuggets
The fuck is her problem?

>>56105679
Isn't that one just company wide as a brand expansion chart? And it doesn't dwell much on the idea that further growth along the chart comes with the consequence of less content that grew the brand in the first place for a lot of them.

>>56105345
She has the greatest determination

My child Biboo eating on stream

How would you all react if Konami ever manages to get Cover and Anykara to one day announced a joint Niji Holo Koushien tournament

>>56105861
small body, small tummy, small stomach

>>56105755
Anon, did you look closely at this image before posting it

>>56105569
Her gfe is constantly telling chat she's very small

Biboo going for the mukbang audience. Ina watch out!

>>56105797
Wosemi new outfit reveal

Biboo and myself can finish an extra large pizza

>>56105755
There's some gay shit happening next to Fauna

So does DVR fuck up the count or something?

>>56105941
and most importantly

>>56105916
FUCK BOREBALL
FOOTBALL ONLY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>56106037
People are not watching the Livestream live

>>56105980

>>56105861
When you don't eat much, over time you eat even less

>>56106037
If they are delayed for whatever reason and they don't realize yes

>>56103458
Was it worth it?

>>56105794
I think Sora is in a weird stage where she is at Stage 3, but will just dip herself right back into Stage 1 whenever she wants to relax for a while.
And for side branches, Gura was a temporary Stage 3 for a good long while, I think. But got put back in Stage 2 recently, either because of her own want to head back, or difficulty in maintaining Stage 3 when you aren't a Japanese-anchored talent.

>webshooter on my butt

>>56105980
This is her second outfit right? Luca only got like 24k for his, I don't expect much from Rosemi

>>56105622
Baseball has some of the highest highs of any sport (big homeruns, walk off hits, high leverage strikeouts) but there's too much nothing in between

>>56106037
it wouldn't matter if yt could go without burping.
it will fuck up.

>10k just like that

>>56105980
I fucking wish, rosebud, but I don't have those kind of hopes

>>56106187
I just want a Hololive World Cup and HoloES and HoloEU
IDfest was the most SOVL experience Hololive had in years...

>>56106209
I'm not a Rosebud sorry. I don't think she'll be high looking at the sexpest Luca. Only Enna can get higher than a Luxiem imo

>>56105797
In what way?

What is your expectation in CCV for tonight's superchat reading? (FWMC)

>>56106037
When YT hitches, viewers fall behind and fall off the CCV count. Even for non-numberfags, DVR with livechat can turn into a mess with various audiences groups being at different points in the stream.

>>56106319
11k max

>>56106179
Artists really are the biggest 'shitposters' aren't they?

>>56106319
7k

>>56106319
i expect it to get similar numbers to the VN
anything more and they are being unrealistic.

>>56106190
She's the sole recipient of the Advent Box right now, I'd certainly hope she can hit 10k.
Actually she's the sole Holobox rep right now, damn, she's got a good run of time to build that lead before she gets her kneecaps bashed in by Gura and then lightly nibbled into by FWMC's debuff stream

>>56106319
There will be nips so higher than whatever IRyS or Fauna gets

>>56105955
Yes
It's perfectly SFW

>>56106287
i still can't believe that PESSI is real

Kek, one of you told her about DVR

>>56106187
That's funny because I consider soccer to be almost completely full of nothing. It's like hockey except nowhere near as fun to watch. I'd rather watch hockey.

Fauna fucking mogged and Bijou hasn't even started playing yet. Just graduate her already.

>>56106319
Maybe 6k or 7k since it's their first? Any higher and it'll risk beating their Sakura Wars stream which would be nutty.

Goodness, Biboo. Dont be another tummy hort. Why are lolis so bad at food

Damn Biboo loves to babble a lot. She's like Koyori in enthusiasm.

>>56105390
>Koyori thinks there's a real powerpro audience
kek
the jogo won't be so belo for her

>>56106396
>Fauna
Easy 10K

>>56106364
>kneecaps bashed in by Gura
>outerworld
lol

>>56106342
>make a shitpost
>everyone is forced to admit its good
uuuuu im living life wrong

>>56106335
For SC reading? That would be godly. 7K

DVR IS OFF
>DVR IS OFF
DVR IS OFF
>DVR IS OFF
REFRESH YOUR PAGE BROS

>>56106412
If I SC her to fix it, you guys would now my account

what the fuck is pilk?

yeah if you refresh the DVR it's off, so part of the audience that came later won't have the hiccup issue

>>56106319
>Gura and Biboo overlap both playing games
7-10k

>old and veteran marine clipper
>wait, why did you revive and come back? So many updates too, very hardworking.
>can i not come back when they are coming back soon?
>wait they are coming back?
>there's a high possibility they are back
>you are gonna be busy then.

Lots of rumours like this are circling around especially regarding someone big being holo's proxy/agent. I like to believe when there's smoke, there's fire.

Anons, what do you call this zatsu from Biboo? It doesn't feel like GFE, I don't view her that way too

>>56105497
Yes it is, why do you think Gura playing debuff shit's gonna take it vs brand new girl with clear slot + first time holocure? I mean Biboo's already at 11k and it's only been 15 mins

>>56106319
Ain't no way they can beat Sakura Wars 5 with a Superchat stream, unless some absolutely fucking absurd shit is going on.
If they do, then I will be forced to admit that you can actually get 5view streams with fucking Galge if you stream it in Eastern Prime Time.

>>56106319
6-7k

>>56106446
Nah, The Outer Worlds woudl be somewhat kino like her New Vegas stream. She's playing Outer Wilds.

>>56106510
It's my cute daughterwife telling me about her day.

>>56106510
It's the daughter or niece experience

>>56106509
what the fuck are you even saying?

>sea people
kek

i hate gura for overlapping but i will have to watch her outer wilds stream, sorry biboo

>>56106509
I don't get it.

>Biboo didn't know "one guy'd" and her fans taught her
Literally the daughter idol vtuber experience

>>56106515
Anon is just setting up the
>OH NO OH NO CHUMKEKS
shitposts

>>56106509
If you're trying to say "Hololive is going back to China!"
I straight up will call it schizophrenia on their part.

>>56106629
Delusional Chinese Holo clippers are reactivating accounts cause they think Hololive is coming back to China

>>56106319
5k.

>>56106509
>coming back soon
would you believe me if i told you i can sell you a pool of water in a desert?

>>56106412
eh she's going to attract a lot of eyes on it after it fucked up her elden ring

>>56106676
Reminds me of how Kiara picks up memes from all the KFP that are >here

Anyone take a screenshot of that Luknight saying how the shitposting will go if either Bijou or Gura take the gold?

>>56106509
If there's one thing that returned to China market, it's kson

>>56106696
The only thing keeping Hololive out of China is China/B2. That said, Cover will never, ever make the Chinese audience any kind of focus.

>>56106729
If Bijou doesn’t take gold it will be pretty sad, she has no overlap

>>56106509
they are preparing the channels to clip the Taipei concert of December? how thoughtful

>>56106615
>>56106629
That Hololive is looking to get back into the Chinese market.
>>56106680
>wanting more money is schizophrenia
>>56106742
lol

>>56106598
mumei is daughter, biboo is grandaughter

>>56106470
Pepsi + Milk

>>56106509
>Lots of rumours like this are circling around
Yeah, circling around the chink schizos

Pick you favorite senpai, rockchild

>don't one guy me
>gets one guyed and turns volume down
Biboo...

>>56106509
When I ran it through Google Translate, I didn't get
>there's a high possibility they are back
I got
>hahaha, well there's always hope

>>56106696
>>56106800
L M A O
Not happening. After all they did to make sure Cover bows to them but Cover never did.

>>56098673
Wasn't his manager actually promoted? Seems like she's doing a pretty good job all things considered stopped faggots from fucking up a number of times.

>>56106742
t. unironic chink

>>56106780
Why wouldn't they? It's both easy money and overseas growth. Given how hard they've fallen since July 1 it's not the worst idea in the world. They can have their cake and eat it too.

>>56106696
Did those Chink clippers also betray Hololive? I think I remember some of them fighting back the antis but got overwhelmed

>runt attaches to debuffson
poetic

>>56106800
ok, you're sorely mistaken
Sorry, anon. China won't be holo until a massive change of administration of china or cover.

>collab beggar
disgusting.
2/5

>>56106780
>requires partnership with local company
it's a losing business. only meager profit goes to the talent and Cover, the stake will shift significantly

For those who missed

>30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE

>>56095613 :: HoloEN (back to Council debuts heights)
>>56097364 :: StarsEN (all time low, sub 1k median and average)

And, now that two weeks since Advent debut have passed and Koshien ended, here is an update on the
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH

Here is the rundown

1) HoloJP
Nothing much to be said. They're still ahead of 12k but, with Peko 24 falling out of the chart tomorrow they're poised to return to a less exhibitionist and more "modest" 11k

2) HoloEN
As said last hread the summary is
>HOLY FUCK!
and
>WHAT TOOK THEM SO LONG?

3) NijiJP
They had the expected peak for Koshien but, like the peak for the streams itself, their average is about 1k (about 17%) down from their 2022 peak.

4) VSPO
They're bouncing back up from a return to their mean after the 3D debuts. Let's see how it goes from this point

5) HoloID
They're inclining thanks to an eventful period for them

6) NijiEN
They reversed their downward trajectories (at the expense of Nina and Mysta graduation) but the graduation buff seems to be tapering off

7) StarsEN
All time low, sub 1k with the summary being
>BRANCH WHO THOUGHT THEY'D LOST ALL NUMBERS LOSE LAST ADDITIONAL BIT OF NUMBERS THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY STILL HAD

This is likely to be one of the highest points in the year for the major branches (HoloJP, HoloEN thanks to the debut buff, NIjiJP thanks to Koshien, NijiEN thanks to the graduations)-
HoloID and VSPO have room to grow a little and StarsEN is hanging by a thread, depending on which [ANNOUNCEMENT] comes from HQ with regards to their "missing two"