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>> No.5590841

I don't get it
I'd understand a 10-30% difference but literally 2x over the 2nd one, how?

>> No.5590855

>>5590790
She could go a whole week of no streaming and still fucking pull these numbers off.

>> No.5590858

>>5590790
And this is her dragging her feet, trying her best to slow it down. Through Cunny, United.

>> No.5590893

>>5590790
Natural charisma + normie audience

>> No.5590924

>>5590790
dead subs aren't real subs anon

>> No.5590965

This is the power of autism and pedophiles.

>> No.5590978

>>5590841
>Previous fanbase immediately found her
>People, especially weebs, are weak to cute
>Loli
>The Japanese are even more weak to cute than westerners are
>Great streaming voice
>Can sing
>Randomly says something wack in the midle of the streams sometimes
The list goes on and on. Basically she's just a Jack-of-All-Trades where you can not like one stream but love the next. Top that off with a great design and you have a great success in this market. That being said, caring about numbers is for faggots. Just watch and have fun

>> No.5590981

>>5590841
The power of cunny

>> No.5591055
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>>5590924
You don't know what actual dead subs are like

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>>5590924
she has a lot of dead subs but still very impressive

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>>5590924

>> No.5591266

>>5590841
youtube algorithm boosted her

>> No.5591289

Nobody in the vtuber universe is even remotely close, pekora beats her in views though. Tommyinnit has much better numbers though.

>> No.5591440

>>5591289
>nobody in the vtuber universe is even remotely close
>except for the ones that beat her
what did he mean by this

>> No.5591628
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>>5591440
Gura cute

>> No.5591824

>>5590790
Ina Ina Ina...

>> No.5591838

>>5590790
Gura is a normie magnet for some reason what else is new

>> No.5591840

>>5591186
translation please

>> No.5591876

>>5591840
# of membership users that have chatted at least once between January and April

>> No.5591898

>>5591876
>>5591840
Literally worthless because it does not consider dropped memberships and the state of chat replay

>> No.5591931

>>5590790
why is gura so popular?

>> No.5591954

>>5591898
nousagi cope

>> No.5592500

>>5591186
How do we save Risu bros?

>> No.5592553

>>5590841
she could have made it without hololive, none of the others could have, she's actually good

>> No.5592609

>>5590841
You really find this surprising? Hololive is at the top of vtubing and Gura is at the top of Hololive. People, who are just finding out about vtubing will just go for the most famous one and no that isnt Kizuna. Being the default first choice for newcomers result in numbers like that.

But Gura in this scenario is just the gateway to vtubing for people and those people may start branching out and subbing to other Holos. So basicly some of these new 70k people start trickling down to the rest of her genmates or Hololive as a whole.

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>>5592609
Pretty much this. People new to Hololive (specifically EOPs) will automatically default to Gura as an entry point. Then some of those will check out the other channels and maybe decide if they prefer any of them, while still being subscribed to Gura. It's pretty simple. Not to mention people just simply "subscribe" to popular things just because they see that it's a highly subscribed channel. There are YouTube channels that have been dead for years but still get several thousand new subscribers a week. Gura could go MIA tomorrow and her channel would still receive more daily subscribers than the other ENs for a very long time. This is just how YouTube works.

>> No.5593040

>>5590790
The power of cunny, most people are lolicons and even if they keep it secret they will still click the sub button for that cute shark they see around sometimes.

>> No.5593274

>>5591186
man these graphs always remind me of how I don't know the first names of more than half the roster

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>>5591186
That very curious. Can a kind Anon explain to an EOP why Watame is in that upper bracket? Does she GFE a lot or is she really good at pushing her membership or something? I get that she might have a strong and obsessed following, but people say the same about Kiara and yet she's only in the middle of that chart.

>> No.5593964

>>5591289
>pekora beats her in views though.
Well if you only count ccv.

>> No.5594000

>>5593964
Dude, stop it. You are embarrassing at this point

>> No.5594022

>>5590841
as of now? Same reasoning behind the rich getting richer. Numbers begets more numbers, and Gura has passed that threshhold.

>> No.5594094

>>5593851
She's the designated Service Animal Experience and will saviourfag anyone in her chat according to the Watamates.

>> No.5594116

>gura releases song
>people listen to song
>???
>gura gains subscribers
it's a mystery for sure

>> No.5594120

>>5593851
>cute sheep
>great singer
>funny moments
>has a perverted side
>clever
>creative
Plus, she doesn't have an annoying voice like Kiara.

>> No.5594349

>>5593851
see >>5594120
but also
>hardworking
>high shitpost energy, but not in your face
>unique timeslot
>best rig

>> No.5594391

Gura's going to beat Kizuna Ai to 3m isn't she? Based.

>> No.5594535

I find it amusing how people try to find any and all explanations apart from the obvious one - she really is that good. You can debate algorithms or ye olde 'tard opinion that it's just loli appeal, but none of that is true. She's an excellent entertainer with boatloads of talent, she puts in the effort and her whole personality is simply wonderful.

Every stream, hours before she begins there's somewhere between 2k to 5k people just chatting and waiting. That's what being genuinely popular looks like. My bet isn't that she's an entry point into EN vtubers, but for a lot of people she's the only one they like even after seeing others through recommendations and/or collabs.

But fuck numbers. Gura herself doesn't care about that. It's a meaningless metric. Kizuna has assloads of subscribers but look at the board - nobody is ever talking about her, but other vtubers. Lily Hops has a thread up essentially at all times as an indie, and has a dedicated fanbase that likes her. So do many other girls. Even Kizuna herself faded from my view back before the VA clusterfuck because of Kaguya Luna. Luna was a vastly more entertaining vtuber than Kizuna even BEFORE SHTF.

Simply put numbers can and do give a false impression because when you have a genuine fanbase they stick with you. I believe Gura will have the same experience, her growth is probably lower than the numbers show but that's just how this game works. Actual fans stick around and their numbers grow slowly and imperceptibly, while tourists barge in and leave after a while.

>> No.5594555

>>5594535
Calm down Watson

>> No.5594705

>>5594535
get help dude, you really need it

>> No.5594811 [DELETED] 

>>5594535
Nice reddit spacing

>> No.5594978

>>5594535
Based

>> No.5594983

>>5590841
For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance...

>> No.5595073

>>5594811
Not him, but you're trying too hard to fit in.

>> No.5595494

>>5594535
Gura deserves it. She's a nice person.

>> No.5595731 [DELETED] 

>>5594535
I won't dismiss that she has talent, that's obvious. She can sing and she's a fun entertainer. Personality is subjective, but clearly a lot of people like her for that too, so lets go with it. Gura is good but she's not 2x better than everybody else in company. This is what people mean when they think "Wow she has so many subscribers? how is she this far ahead?". As much as you say it's not to do with the algorithm and or peoples YouTube habbits. I'm afraid it is.

>>5590841
>>5594022

These posts are alluding to similar things people havbe already answered with. Again, it's not a case of Gura being "that good". Nobody will say she isn't, but talent doesn't skyrocket you this much above everyone else. Riding the hype train, a subscriber snowball effect and the workings of the sites algorithm are what attribute to that. As other Anons have said in the past; Gura could get a new voice actor, she could permanently switch to a new outfit, she could stop singing altogether, all of this and her channel would still be going stronger and faster than the rest for a very long time. That's simply how this technology works.

>> No.5596011

>>5594535
obviously she is good, but twice (or more) as good as many of the other holo girls? I doubt, but maybe my taste is simply not that mass compatible...

>> No.5596068

>le cunny!!!!
fucking cringe

>> No.5596124

>>5595731
Faggot Schizo rrat. Ignore plenty of obvious reasons why Gura is ahead but it's because of the mysterious Algorithm. Nigger Schizo logic.

>> No.5596194

>>5595731
>Gura is good but she's not 2x better than everybody else in company.
It's not about being x amount better, it's about being better by any amount. A person only has so much free time in their day and they are going to watch who they like most, even if they like them only a bit more.
I don't like Gura much more than Ame, but given the choice I will almost always watch her.

>> No.5596199

The light that burns twice as bright lasts half as long.

>> No.5596306

>>5596199
Once a nigger, always a nigger

>> No.5596348

>>5596068
cute = pedo
t. nyanners

>> No.5596390

>>5590790
Gura needs to stream every week plus her birthday buff to increase subs
My oshi ayame doesn't even need to stream, her subs still increase
now tell me, who wins? numberfag

>> No.5596437

>NOOOOOOO I WAS GROOMNG YOU, WHY WONT YOU LET ME RAPE YOU IT WAS MY ONLY CHANCE OF HAVING SEX

>> No.5596709

>>5590790
>doesn't have the creativity of Coco
>doesn't have the voice of Suisei
>doesn't have the cuteness of Korone
>doesn't have all of the above of Nenechi
>still blows them up by number of subs

based shark

>> No.5596928

>>5590841
this happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ

>> No.5596987

>>5596390
its funny how she could make a good living by playing games a few times a week but too lazy to do even that I guess members still make her decent money

>> No.5597054 [DELETED] 

>>5596124
If you say so.

>> No.5597156

>>5596928
most people only know about that song, and by extension HER, because of the tiktok socialist. it's undeniable that HER fans played a significant part in the early boost, but at this point Gura has done more to grow that channel than vice versa.

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>> No.5597561

>>5590790
She doesn't deserve it

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I am here and I am hungry.

>> No.5597632

>>5590965
true

>> No.5597657
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>>5597561
based Gawr

>> No.5599622

>>5594000
>nooo MY METRIC ONLY
You're the one embarrassing yourself anon. Pekkers has her entire JOP audience in the same time zone+ EOPs. That she has less VOD views simply means objectively, more people look at Gura's content than hers.

>> No.5601192

>>5597476
>>5597561
Gura....?

>> No.5601260

>>5590841
best singer in hololive

>> No.5602277

Is this stupid numberfag shit really all chumtards have

>> No.5602663

>>5592500
hype the fuck out of her original song and boostrap that into massive sub boost
also she has to do more karaoke

>> No.5602997

>>5593851
you get to hear her say "welcome to membersheep"

>> No.5603039

>>5602277
don't need much to defend the best vtuber

>> No.5603118

>>5591289
>nobody except for JPs main numbersfag beats her, and also some irrelevant underage bongistani who isn't a Vtuber who got his views by leeching off the Sidemen, MrBeast, and literally every Minecraft youtuber.

>> No.5603139

>>5603039
only thing to talk about when streams are that boring

>> No.5603729

>>5591055
>The videos are real
kek, i thought they were an edit

>> No.5603761

>>5603729
it's a joke, chumbud. relax.

>> No.5603806

Being 100% completely honest here. I like Gura’s design and I enjoy her music. Her chat and video game streams are fucking boring though.

>> No.5603871

>>5603806
Did you watch the Henry Stickmin Collection stream?

>> No.5604071

>>5603871
She got carried by the game (as usual). Every single JP Holo did it better, too.

>> No.5604118

>>5590978
What was her previous fanbase from?

>> No.5604174

>>5594535
false
she's popular because normiefags have shit taste, it's like thinking big bang theory is good because it's popular

>> No.5604255

>>5604071

How did the JPs do it better if they didn't understand most of the references to english internet memes from a decade ago?
If I remember correctly, pekora had half of the views of Gura

>> No.5604308

>>5591931
cunny

>> No.5604585

>>5604118
Sesame Street

>> No.5604615

>>5590841
It's literally just algorithm wizardy and the fact that virality compounds. People going into anything else are just delusional. Yes, she is very cute and funny. Yes she is quite talented. Exposure is still the most important part.

>> No.5604647

>>5590790
>Ina is the most talented, fewest subs
that's what upsets me about this image.

>> No.5604709

>>5591242
Noel and Marine got lots of viewers for their outfits, does that make Noel the biggest vtuber?

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>>5603039
>the best
but that's fucking wrong, ~peko

>> No.5605265

>Gura is into documentaries about niche and obscure subjects
>I'm into documentaries about niche and obscure subjects
WE ARE

>> No.5605487

>>5604255
They made up for it with genuine curiosity and engagement. They had great reactions. And, even though she's American, Gura missed a lot of references and her reactions were kinda weak for the most part, at least in comparison to Fubuki and Pekora.

>> No.5608565

>Ina is so low
Why? She's definitely tied for 1st place with Gura for my favorite Vtubers. Her calm and quiet demeanor is really nice and makes it seem like hanging out with her and Ina would be based.

>> No.5609401

>>5592553
yeah that's why she used to have 300 live viewers on twitch before hololive

>> No.5609450

>>5590841
This week she probably got a boost due to the birthday stream + song release. Ina had a similar boost this time last month

>> No.5612572

>>5596928
I knew of that channel long before I knew of what Gura was or even what vtubing was
It took me a long, long time to be find out they were roommates.

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>>5593851
She streams a lot and seems to perfectly hit the time slot when euros come home from work.

>> No.5614965

>>5590790
Did Kiara finally catch back up with Ina?

Also Gura and Calli get the benefit of passive subscribers coming in from single, high view videos.

One multi-million view music video (like Reflect) can earn them as many passive subscribers as a week of normal streaming.

>> No.5615266

>>5592609
>>5592967
I can personally attest that this happens. That's how I fell down the rabbithole. She was not the first vtuber I'd ever heard about, but she was my gateway into Hololive.

>> No.5615319

>>5591824
>>5604647
She's a few thousand ahead of Kiara, this chart only shows increments of 10k

>> No.5615382

>>5597156
She's also the one who sang that Belle Delphine song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7zhDeCK0M

>> No.5615497

>>5596928

not the same person

>> No.5615705

>>5599622
Pekora has more VOD views

>> No.5615716

>>5604174
No argument, just shit. You hate Gura for no reason. She really is the best, bar none.

>> No.5615974

>>5615705
Thats so wrong lol, Pekora makes in 1 week what Gura makes in 1-2 days of VOD views

>> No.5616026

>>5615497
This isn't Reddit buddy, no need to pretend.

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>>5591186
>she’s pulling in 90-120k a month on member subscriptions

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>>5593851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTrLzBC5Mm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aaHNvAca1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X6fvfEaGLo&list=PLZ34fLWik_iB5_4d8q_e4ix_C1FKd5F5R (_fourty seven_)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LGCbI3EvOk
she's the only holo I've membered purely for liking her music.

>> No.5616318

>>5590841
Exponential growth. The bigger your numbers the bigger the exposure and the bigger the future growth.

>> No.5616353

Remember when people thought Ame would surpass Mori?

>> No.5616404

>>5608565
Nobody likes boring asian bitches who literally chose being "punny" to cover up how boring they are (seriously, asian diaspora girls always do this)

>> No.5616439

>>5592609
>>5615266
Same here. Got into the rabbit hole because of Gura's singing, but now I watch and enjoy others. Wouldn't miss most of her streams though.

>>5601260 *one of the best

>> No.5616467

>>5616050
What is that in USD?

>> No.5616482

>>5591186
>>5591876
If this is that I have 2 other member accounts that never chat on her stream.

>> No.5616484
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5616484

>>5615705
NOUSAGI BTFO

>> No.5616494

>>5616484
what's Pekora's dip from?

>> No.5616610

>>5616467
No that is in USD because all that chart says is number of members which isaround 17500-18000. With each membership costing around $5 a month so Gura is making 87,500 per month if not more just from membership.

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>>5616050
we still don't know for sure..

>> No.5616857

>>5616610
That's too optimistic to assume all of them pay in USD

If we assume they all pay the lowest denomination (ARS), Gura only earns $9k usd every month

>> No.5617184

>>5616857
>only
Worst case scenario means she's pulling in over $100,000 a year in memberships alone. If the 1/3rd split with superchats is accurate she's already made over a quarter million from superchats, and all of this is on top of her base salary that she gets from working at Hololive, plus she would also presumably get a cut from whatever ad revenue her channel generates.

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>>5591055
>Still seething about Ai-chan
Reminder that she'll reach 3 million before Gura

>> No.5619190

>>5594535
This, but more specifically she's unparalleled at pulling in the less intense viewer who will sub, watch a few streams and VODs etc. It's obviously a massive achievement but other holos have comparable ones etc more concurrent viewers, or more memberships & superchats from a smaller but more dedicated audience.

I suspect inside Hololive where they actually have "real" numbers that matter it's a different, more complex picture with different metrics for success depending on the talent and what they are aiming for.

>> No.5619196

>>5619011
I screen capped this post along with the 10 other times you've done this.

>> No.5619228

>>5594811
> any use of paragraphs
leddit spacing LEDDIT SPACING!!1!1one!

>> No.5619276

>>5617184
Plus whatever she’s making from reflect

>> No.5619459

>>5619196
Good

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>>5604758
Best at making people seeth.

>> No.5620246

>>5620181
Oh and by people, I mean shizos.

>> No.5621559

>>5590841
The power of having the best design and cuter voice.

It also helps she leans into the little sister angle but without as much lewd undertones as most others do. Makes her more palatable to normalfags who might find Mori or Ame offputting for coming across more directly as waifubait.

>> No.5621806

Its also because Gura is so clippable. She says something weird or gives an opinion about something and people lap it up. There's a video compilation of her just repeating the words the game characters say and that gets fucking hundreds of thousands of views.

>> No.5622532

>>5594535
Finally, someone who isn't retarded.

>> No.5622564

>>5621806
Are you implying she plans it to be that way you fucking cunt?

>> No.5622715

>>5604118
Chaturbate

>> No.5622823

>>5593851
The most intense two-way saviorfagging you will ever encounter with any vtuber in this lifetime.

>> No.5622842

>>5604118
25 to lifetime without parole.

>> No.5623781

>>5622564
Kill yourself

>> No.5623808

>>5623781
>hurr le fake shark
No u

>> No.5624488

>>5616646
>potentially 29k memberships, and that's just discordfags
Jesus... Starting to think SC might not be the end all be all to deciding which Holo makes the most money...

>> No.5624563

>>5624488
the discord requires you to resubmit proof of membership monthly, so I don't think it's just potentially

>> No.5624717

>>5619196
NTA but it’s actually very likely Ai will hit 3m before Gura, her birthday is coming up on the 30th and Gura won’t hit 3m in 5 days.

>> No.5624757

>>5624717
No one cares about kizuna since her traitorous collab

>> No.5624783

>>5624488
dont let nousagi hear about you taking the numbers redpill, they hate that.

>> No.5624861

>>5624717
Gura is currently pulling in 10k+ per day after Reflection dropped, she has a chance.

Even if she doesn't AI hitting 3 million first will just be cope for the shitposting once Gura overtakes her anyway.

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>>5624717
Ai will need to pull 40k subscribers within 12 days, when it took her three months to get 10k. It's not going to happen.

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>>5624717
Ai will need to pull 40k subscribers within 12 days, when it took her three months to get 10k. It's not going to happen

>> No.5625160

>>5616646
Checking that chat again shows a total of 31,115 members of which if you want to just count those alone and with the bare minimum of the $5 membership, although she likely has a good amount of $10 ones as well, per month she is pulling in $155,575 and multiplying that by 12 months gets you $1,866,900 in membership revenue alone. There are likely even more that aren’t in that discord and with the $10 membership, if anyone says Gura is a low earner in the company while using superchat statistics they aren’t taking into account the memberships and her vod views money. This shark is fucking loaded.

>> No.5625206

>>5625160
Dollar is one of the higher tier currencies. You will need to scale the number down for thirdworlders and ARSniggers who pay less than 5 bucks for a membership

>> No.5625282

>>5625206
Even if you’d want to cut that number in half she is still earning nearly 1m a year but it’s still likely it’s above half of that given number.

>> No.5625286

>>5625160
it should be noted that like superchats, membership is scaled against the strength of local currency, so a membership in Myanmar Bucks may only be $2.50 USD. Since shes a global ordeal, this also effects her more than JPs

>> No.5625329

>>5625282
Yes, I'm not denying her revenue is crazy high, just giving additional info.
You also did not consider the yt/cover cut

>> No.5625344

>>5592500
Risu has at least 750 members and some nontrivial superchats. She also lives in Indonesia. She’s already making more than the national average before streamlabs, salary, etc. She’s doing just fine.

>> No.5625398

>>5590790
I’ve been out of the loop, for ina or kiara hit 1m first?

>> No.5625530

>>5625160
It’s interesting that we have semi hard numbers for Risu and that chart underestimates her members by more than 50%. I have some memberships and almost never chat. I think I’ve sc more than chatted since for the EN girls their chats move so fast it’s almost pointless. If Gura had 40K members I wouldn’t be even slightly surprised. This sort of fits with other info that trickles out. Like how Papanis was shocked how much money Ina was making. Ina was making quite good money as an artist and blatantly told people to not super chat her. That money was coming from somewhere and was enough to make her dad raise an eyebrow. I wonder if someone went hard on Kiara or Ollie we could get them to leak their actual numbers.

>> No.5625567

>>5625398
Ina hit 1m first followed by Kiara who then complained about how she felt left behind despite the fact they were neck and neck, and if Ina had been slower to 1m she’d likely have said nothing.

>> No.5625579

>>5625398
It was Ina pretty sure.
I think her pixiv boost was bigger than... I think the German anime con Kiara appeared at that week

>> No.5625613
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>>5593851
therapy sheep. Also some of the best expressions and rigging in hololive.

>>5625530
Where did you see this info for Ina? I'd like to watch it, Timestamp preferred.

>> No.5625737

>>5625398
Man, I had tried to rephrase that question and really fucked the grammar.
>>5625567
>>5625579
I’m pleased by that. It is what was expected but I also somewhat thought Kiara might do some stunt to try and make the jump first. I suppose the con was that though and it wasn’t enough.

>> No.5625817

>>5625530
>Like how Papanis was shocked how much money Ina was making.
Any normal human would be shocked to see how much money any Holo makes from streaming a couple hours a day a few days a week.

>> No.5625831

Personally I got recommended random Amelia and Mori clips before anything from Gura. I don't think it's far-fetched to say that she's twice as good and appealing as the others in her generation. Comparing numbers against other markets doesn't really make sense so I won't comment on that.

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>>5625109
God I love how Kiz*na is about to be fucking dethroned this hard

>> No.5626010

>>5625831
Well obviously numbers don’t fully reflect everything. Ina, despite being tied for last place averages the 2nd highest views per stream with a consistent 10-11k, When it’s not a debuff game Gura averages 30k and even though Ame is 3rd I’m pretty sure she’s the lowest in average viewers per stream although I could be wrong.

>> No.5629169

>>5604615
this.
As a HER fan I wished she would go big, but her going this big so rapidly slightly worries me. It's nothing short of a miracle in the middle of a shitty world we live in.

>> No.5629345

>>5625286
Say you take that into consideration what would the estimation on Gura's revenue be then? At least a million or less?

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>>5603118
You know who beats her?

>> No.5629615

>>5590841
It’s entirely based on the YouTube algorithm, don’t overthink it.
YouTube is obsessed with promoting a “brand friendly” platform, so one aspect of it is making sure to promote the channels with big numbers the most. I assume their mentality is that the controversial channels will get snuffed out before they reach the 1M threshold. All of the other girls will reach this point eventually. Gura just got the head start because HER channel was already past 1M, and the big audience transferred over.
It’s almost kind of scary how 90% of people will just watch whatever YouTube promotes. If you look at Gura’s numbers compared to the other girls, it’s evident that some of the viewers don’t even bother to check out other holo EN girls.

>> No.5629646

>>5593851
I think she has similar reasons as Gura for doing so well. But with the talent substituted by hard work and determination. However, she's handicapped by being a JP along with her cute soft pure girl gimmick that she can't just throw out the window.
GOD I want her and Gura to socialize so bad...
Thank you fellow Watamate. This is a genius plan!

>> No.5629673

>>5590790
I-ITS BOTS AAAAAAAAAAAAH NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5629685

>>5629615
>HER channel was already past 1M
it wasn't, though it had more subs than any holo

>> No.5629714

>>5619011
Is this bait or is this fag really this deluded?

>> No.5629766

>>5591186
NOOOOOOOOO YOU JUST CAN NOT POST SOMETHING THAT PROVES MY RRATS AND FALSE INFORMATION WRONG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5629892

>>5597156
>it's undeniable that HER fans played a significant part in the early boost,
Wrong. Only a small amount of people knew who she previously was before her debut. Her insane fast growth mainly came from having 2 huge accelerators in her very first stream ("a" meme and Ride on Time). She immediatley was all over youtube.

>> No.5629906

>>5629685
weren't Korosan and Friend both over 800k by the time of the EN debut?

>> No.5629926

>>5596709
JPfags will seethe and cope forever and its glorious

>> No.5629950

>>5629906
yes

>> No.5629978

>>5594705
>>5594811
>>5604174
not a single argument
kek antis are such pathetic loads of shit

>> No.5629984

>>5629365
based. remember that numbers are the only valid measurement of quality.

>> No.5629986

>>5629950
so HER channel didn't have more subs than any holo. People keep revising history every other thread and I've nearly reached the point of Mandela effect

>> No.5630008 [DELETED] 

>>5605487
Fubuki was dragging herself through all that. Subaru is way better.

>> No.5630013

>>5629978
next you will tell me to "seethe" and "cope", right chumkek?

>> No.5630048

>>5629986
its pure and unfiltered weeaboo cope
they will never live down that gura got to 1 million before any of their JP holos. its pitiufal how bitter and angry they still are to this very day lol

>> No.5630049

>>5629986
she had more, just not 1M. Still, it doesn't matter. People give HER way too much credit for Gura's popularity

>> No.5630072

>>5630013
nah, at this point, it's clear you're just a retard

>> No.5630083

>>5630013
Do not need to since you clearly already are

>> No.5630127
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>>5630013
seethe and cope

>> No.5630195

>>5630127
gura's so big, she really doesn't need hololive at all. why is she still in the company?

>> No.5630237

>>5630195
Probably under a contract

>> No.5630242

>>5630195
To let some losers leech from her
It's a charity thing

>> No.5630345

>>5630195
she doesn't have the discipline to go indie

>> No.5630388

>>5630345
She needs to discipline her fanbase.

>> No.5630411

>>5630345
Her piggies wouldn't mind if she only streamed every other week. She could be the indie Ayame.

>> No.5630784

>>5604709
>Noel and Marine got lots of viewers for their outfits
They got nearly 200k of constant viewers??

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>>5591186
This is just ones posting in the chat too. I bet at least 30-40% never does that.

>> No.5630907

>>5630784
They got decent costumes, unlike the blue rhombus.

>> No.5631043

>>5630907
That's common fact, but it has nothing to do with previous post.

>> No.5631579

>>5631043
It has everything to do with showing numberfags that big numbers =/= quality.

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5633203

>loli wins
>loli hater loses
I thought this was supposed to be a cursed timeline?

>> No.5635709

>>5591186
anya....

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>>5590790

>> No.5639806
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>>5629615
HER channel got 1 mil subs 3 days after Gura

HER had close to 1 mil, yes, but she never had 1 mil until Gura

>> No.5641766

>Currently has about 7k viewers playing a newly released game on US prime time
>Noel has the same on a zatsudan stream at 9am

Yeah most of her subscribers are minecraft kids

>> No.5646558

>>5641766
how is this a revelation?
just look at the comments on guras videos lol

>> No.5646691

>>5633203
Yet Nyanners has the better song

>> No.5647209

>>5590841
Youtube algorithm pushes the biggest channels to the forefront. Basically means the biggest channels get bigger, while smaller channels are left constantly chasing their big break out moment.

>> No.5647324

>>5604118
YouTube

>> No.5647453

>>5616026
What happened to this place...

>>5590841
ὅστις γὰρ ἔχει, δοθήσεται αὐτῷ καὶ περισσευθήσεται· ὅστις δὲ οὐκ ἔχει, καὶ ὃ ἔχει ἀρθήσεται ἀπ’ αὐτοῦ.

>> No.5647460

>>5647324
What kind of videos did she make?

>> No.5647919

>>5647460
Porn music videos

>> No.5648146

>>5590841
Succesful channels get promoted. If you watch any of the actually big streamers or youtubers on any platform they're not that different from any other streamer or channel.
If you're big you get bigger. Youtube will promote you because more views = more phone ads, the algorithm will pick you up because you spike more often and get into the 'trending' lists, your bigger fanbase can word-of-mouth your brand where youtube doesnt reach.
Its the opposite for smaller channels. No fanbase, no recommended videos,...

>> No.5648613

>>5593040
I don't get it. I enjoy loli but Gura doesn't feel like a loli to me. Niji has better loli characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5sCyH89UAI

>> No.5648652

>>5617184
Don't forget sponsorships(she's doing one now) and merch sales.

>> No.5649180

>>5648613
because she's not one, just like Rushia, Shion or Luna are not lolis either

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>>5641766
She had 10k viewers for her sponsored playthrough of this flop, the most out of anyone on youtube or twitch.

>> No.5649990

>>5647460
Pony playhouse videos

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5650126

>>5590790
TICK TOCK

>> No.5650237

>>5649746
That Gura's shill stream feels like a watch-along cuz 80% of it is just cutscenes with no soul in it. I would rather watch jaws with her over this shit.

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>>5649746
I hope that Cohhcarnage guy gets more viewers tomorrow because yikes

Bamco should fire whoever chose these two to promote the release of the game

>> No.5650565

>>5650237
The questions is DID you watch Jaws with her anon?

>> No.5650918

>Seethe because gura has normie subscribers
No chuuba wants pathetic retards and schizos like you as fans. You don’t matter lol.

>> No.5651146

>>5590858
The last week she has definitely not been "dragging her feet" she is really giving her all

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>>5650565
Yes, I did and it was my first time watching Jaws.

>> No.5651348

>>5592500
Clips, lots and lots of clips
And nuts

>> No.5652191

>>5608565
art will never be as popular as music

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