/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5579720
NYC is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world, anon. Of course they want to go there.

>>5579720
nyc is a shithole

Why would people go to america

>>5580272
The grass is always greener on the other side.

>>5580272
America has kino geography and some cities are better tourist traps than others.

>>5579720
Every time an HoloJp is asked where they want to go most of the time they say Canada for some reason....

>>5580272
it's cool to see the melting pot of the world.
all nations have friends and family in america. for better or worse your country can find itself in america, no matter where you are.

i think that's really cool. as a japanese you can head over and see japan towns and check out american-japanese culture -- and unlike other nations such culture is acknowledged and celebrated, not asked to be integrated.

>>5580272
Same reason some americans don't have a passport and don't feel the need to travel oversees. There's a diverse array of sights and experiences in a single country.

>>5580272
the national parks are the GOAT. the only place ive seen more beautiful than our parks is Antarctica

>>5579720
it's a thing that happens when people's mental images of a place are built solely on what they see on media
they see people of all colours of shit fraternizing together on TV while consooming [product] with a smile on their face and visiting [tourist attraction] and think the real thing is like that
then they get a dose of reality and usually get traumatized

Americans really need to be range banned

>>5588558
seething on an american website lol

>>5589039
>owned by a foreigner
>collecting user data to sell to other foreigners
yep, that's about as american as it gets

>>5589111
american site located in america with american staff sold by an american to a jap who loves the west
your tears are delicious. you will never be an american.

>>5580272
The only reason I can think of is to visit famous landmarks they've seen in TV and movies, or to visit people. Personally you'd have to pay me about a grand for me to even consider visiting.

>>5589204
Cool for you, America is the cultural, business, and bureaucratic capital of the world.
That and I really like New England. Never been to the western states but the Appalachian Mountains create a beautiful space.

young japanese love america a lot more than old japanese

>non-en holos go to America
>get beat up for causing covid
>American hate intensifies
sasuga

>>5589530
nah japs are loved in america
only my friends boomer uncle who flew over hiroshima hates japs, probably mostly due to the trauma he had from the experience of surveying the damage

>>5589581
>implying americans can tell the difference

>>5589581
You expect niggers to know the difference?

>>5589660
young americans can, yes. old americans not so much.
>>5589757
african americans are fairly insular and not very concerned about the rest of the world, in general. as such it's not much about the difference as is it the lingering animosity over prior waves of asian immigrants and the conflicts had with the asian-american community in general. there's going to be racism from blacks for any asian, atleast in general.

>>5589660
America used to be far less diverse. But the modern American has grown up with Japanese households and Chinese households near them -- they can tell the difference, unlike a European.

>>5589888
They don't like anyone coming into their communities and opening businesses and becoming successful.

>>5589941
I live in some suburb in a flyover state and I can go to Walmart and see Sikhs, Burmese refugees, Mexicans, Africans ect all over. You have to be way out in the country to not have any kind of diversity at all.

>>5589954
i won't deny there's elements of truth to this. but it's far more to do with tensions in cultural norms and past incidents, such as L.A riots.
something else is the modern african american identity was built as a way to survive prior hardships, economical, political, social, etc. naturally it's far less respectful and productive -- it's a cultural built for expecting the worst out of others and being able to survive it. add in poverty and a lack of education through generations and it's a compete shit show.

Noone. They like the Idea of america that they see on tv. But Japs dont go outside of their country in Holidays Also they hate niggers

>>5579720
Watame specifically wants to go to Wattaburger, which is in Texas, not sure how that’ll work. Maybe she can visit with Mori as a guide.

>>5590011
None the less this wasn't always the case, at least not as much so. When you look at demographic trends the country is far less white than it used to be.
America's diversity used to be more about 'white' diversity. Things like Irishmen, Italians, Englishmen, Germans, etc, all living in one nation.

America has been transitioning to a more broad diversity, beyond just Europeans. There's always been immigrants from Asia et all but it's been mostly Europeans for most of the country's history.

Either way the point is the same, exposure to different cultures and peoples as well as a resulting understanding of what is and isn't. A teenager can often tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese

>>5580272
you know why

>>5588558
Agreed, so long as you include South Americans

the funniest thing about america is walking into a japanese restraunt run by chinese and south east asians
then again japan butchers cultures more so than america does. just see kfc christmas chicken as an example.

japanese are all huge burgerboos, that's why the two biggest sports are baseball and competitive eating

>>5590205
I thought black Americans are so onions soaked that they get beaten by white women everytime?

>>5590142
>Watame specifically wants to go to Wattaburger,
This is fucking adorable.

>>5579720
Take your meds SEAniggers

>>5579720
people from every country want to visit america because that's how global politics turned out. you're probably conflating more metropolitan attitudes and normal conservative japan nationalism, which makes about as much sense as talking about america as a political bloc

>>5590249
>the funniest thing about america is walking into a japanese restraunt run by chinese and south east asians
You joke, but there are only two decent sushi places nearby
#1
>Owned by Koreans
>Best sushi chef is Malaysian
>Most senior sushi chef is Korean too
>Junior sushi chefs are all zhangs
>Waitresses are all zhangs
#2
>Nearly 100% SEA and zhang
>Have no idea where the bossman sushi chef is from, because I've heard him respond to different staff in what clearly sounded like different accents/dialects/languages

>>5590300
one of the cutest thing in the world is seeing japanese men or women wear clothing with american flags or iconography

>>5590537
ive found new actually japanese places springing up near me.
i don't know if its due to demographics changing or millenials knowing what japanese people look like, and wanting it to be real japanese food, but i like it.

i was able to write shitty hirigana on my tipping receipt.

Nips and Koreans are about the only places in the world with a positive view of America

>>5590756
It's just fashion, there's no meaning behind it. It's like seeing teenage girls in the US walking around with Union Jack tshirts, they don't really care about the UK do they

Weebs will be in denial but America has been a major influence in japansse culture since ww2, and mostly in the 70s-80s.

>>5591492
More like 1853, 1857 if you wanna count the trade treaty

>>5580272
they never have met a nigger IRL and have no idea what American cities are like

>>5591101
thats a mega cope. ive never met someone who dislikes england wearing a jack

>>5590397
I dunno, I always see news about white women getting beaten the shit out of them by black Americans and they seems to like it.

>>5580272
The power of the American media has created an illusion that America is a great country and etc. Is the same reason why japanese people wants to go to Paris and then they get shattered by reality when they realize that Paris is a shit hole.

>>5586039
There are a lot of Asians in Canada, especially chinks, it's basically their colony at this point.

>>5592607
Every port city on the west cost is infested with them

>>5591927
I have
>>5591101
Correct, i own a pajama with american flags (the stars are weed leaves but whatever) i bought it when i was 15 and it was just because its fun and looks good

>>5580272
to rape white girls

>>5591927
I didn't say dislike, there's just no greater meaning to it than "that's a nice pattern", they rarely have strong feelings of any kinds. Do you also think those same teenage girls also care about Pink Floyd because they wear Dark Side of the Moon shirts?

>>5580272
>Insane quality of life for managing just to graduate high school without having a teen pregnancy.
>Reasonable tax rates despite subsidizing half the world’s military spending.
>Wide range of climates and geographic wonders, no need to travel to another country just for “something different” like a teasucker who has to travel to spaghettiland every summer to see a nice beach.
It truly is a mystery.

>>5592787
>Insane quality of life for managing just to graduate high school without having a teen pregnancy.
this and dominating the world in so many industries has created an absurd demand on the workforce. companies will teach you everything you need to do for some jobs that usually require college education.
the demand is so absurdly high it's insane

>>5592701
Based

Japan is one of few places left that still believes America is top dog.

>>5586060
SEAnigger here that's not what people travel for amerilard. Do you know how much it is to travel to your country? I don't spend 4 months of my salary to go see little zamboanga for 2 weeks.

>>5592931
not surprising coming from such an isolated culture who gets their knowledge of the outside world almost exclusively through the curated lens of the MSM

>>5592787
>>5592865
Unless you take up a trade or work a physically demanding job like construction or oil you need some form of college to get paid decently

>>5592931
>18% of Germans think the EU is the world's leading economic power
lmao

>>5579720
Avoid the leftist cities and cities with low white populations. Tha's where the main issues are.
So, avoid L.A., NYC, San Francisco, Chicago, Atlanta, Baltimore, Austin, TX, Portland, and Seattle.

>>5592931
For good reason. Both countries got picked up and 'saved' by America.
Europe got saved too but not as much and they believed themselves deserving of their stimulus from American's.

Japanese, on the other hand, were convinced they were at total war with America and would reap the consequences of losing such a war -- mass rape, pillaging, genocide, etc. When the troops landed and just idled by the Japanese were really surprised and, in many cases, relieved. They were fully aware, after all the shit which happened in China, that occupiers could rape and pillage. That Americans didn't left the impression of actions speaking louder than words, American's surprisingly following their claims of being a democracy seeking to protect itself and stop Japan's imperial ambitions.
Korea's similar, they know Americans fought and died so that they don't have to live on the other side of the border. Living next to North Korea is a constant redpill.

I don't know how conscious the understanding is, but Japan dominates the world due to U.S subsidies after WW2. Whether they agree with everything America does or believes is one thing, but I think they know all too well America is an anomaly in foreign relations, one who has failed to manifest their worst fears born of xenophobia and isolation; the foreign invaders came and left them a massive boon while respecting them greatly.

>>5592931
You really think Japan or Korea would think favorably of China? NGMI.
>>5593046
tbf the krauts bankroll the EU. of course they'd think more highly of it, it would be nothing without them.
Wait, how are we this far off topic but still this civilized?
>>5593041
Amen, what the fuck are those two on about? If:
>>5592787
>>Insane quality of life for managing just to graduate high school without having a teen pregnancy.
Is supposed to mean
>A life of crippling debt with no chance of home ownership unless you decide "fuck it" and move to a trailer park
Then sure.
You aren't getting anywhere meaningful in the US without a graduate or professional degree unless you're insanely lucky, and you'll be paying the tuition bill until you die anyways.

>>5592537
>is this Africa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOqLaCXOeo4

>>5593041
not true.
i got hired for I.T work right out of highschool.

college is nice but unnecessary for many jobs. experience and skills matter more, and those can be bought/trained for anyone you hire.

>>5593199
>i got hired for I.T work right out of highschool.
And your position is thus highly expendable and you are easily replaced.

>>5592666
Sad to know that Ina is part of the problem.

>>5590205
Not quite it buck boy

>>5579720
They don't want go to to like, Bumfuck Kentucky. They want a short trip of the glamorous America they know from TV shows and movies before going back to their familiar lives. They wanna go to LA and NYC and see Celebrities and clubs.

>>5593173
>You aren't getting anywhere meaningful in the US without a graduate or professional degree unless you're insanely lucky, and you'll be paying the tuition bill until you die anyways.
Young, foreigner, or jaded college grad.
Whenever I want a good laugh I head to Reddit where people bitch about their college debt and how it was so necessary, all while seething over their friends making six figures with no college or employer paid education.

>>5593229
Promoted and moved up.
Two years of college classes paid for by my employer.
Currently making over 120k working for the fed.

You don't need college if you're willing to work for a low wage while you pick up skills in your desired industry.

>>5579720
Senchou would probably get raped in less than 3 days if she went to America, her sweaty fat ass would attract every niggers in NYC

>>5593199
Are you white? Most of those jobs they prefer to give to Indian and Chink immigrants since they'll worker for cheaper pay. Similar to Hispanic illegals in the low skill labor market.

Subaru said that she and Korone wanted to go to NYC.

>>5593304
I stand corrected. Big ups to this guy, congrats.
>>5593275
>jaded college grad
That's also being fucked over by their graduate school at the moment, bingo.
I learned fuck all in college FWIW and even less in grad school, I am not disagreeing with you guys. If I don't an hero and one of my kids eventually doesn't want to go to college, I'll support them 110%.

>>5593311
yes.
something i'll admit is i live in faux-rural new england so my american experience is fairly unique.

none-the-less you can move here any time and take advantage of the strong job market.

>>5593354
as much as i didn't make your decision because of your stated reasons, the grass is always greener on the other side.
it fucking sucked watching my friends make new friends and study what they wanted while i had no clue where my life was going to go -- feeling like a failure because i was alone and wasn't being college educated like my friends

there isn't a great support structure for modern american youth besides college.
thankfully companies are trying to change that but it will take time and effort.

>>5579720
You see Japanese people all the time in popular US tourist destinations. Visiting is completely different from living here.
They might want to plan for it soon before America's cultural revolution is in full swing.

>>5593335
NYC is the smelliest city I've been to other than Bangkok and they have open sewers

>>5579720
Noel mentioned on one of her Duolingo streams that she once visited a Victoria's Secret in LA, and none of the bras they sold fit her.

>>5579720
There's a big difference between liking a place as a place to live or associate with and visit as a tourist. America has a lot of tourist destinations and anyone who has engaged with their pop culture (Hollywood?) has at least a passing knowledge of America compared to a random other country.

>>5593245
ina isn't a chinkoid

>>5593271
>They wanna go to LA and NYC and see Celebrities and clubs.
and get paris syndrome

>>5592701
I dont mind so lng as euro women are not harmed

>>5579720
Most Japanese loves America. It's the effect of forced cultural feeding post WW2 to erase the hatred towards the west. Sad that most of them didn't know that burgerland is a shithole.

And do you know the Japanese Embassy in Paris had a dedicated suicide hotline? Because a lot of Japanese who thinks that Paris is a perfect romantic place found out that it's a shithole worse than their own country. Then they got depressed to the point of contempelating a suicide.

>>5593619
i don't remember it being smelly. though i did see a hispanic woman fight a black woman on the subway.

>>5594078
>Most Japanese loves America. It's the effect of forced cultural feeding post WW2 to erase the hatred towards the west. Sad that most of them didn't know that burgerland is a shithole.
>forced
No. It's the effect of being deathly scared the Americans are coming to rape your mothers, kill your fathers, eat your babies, and genocide Japanese culture, only to find out these people you have been at total war with are sitting by just drinking beer at pubs while guarding your country from soviets.
They had some of the worst expectations possible, partially because they knew how Japan waged war, and all of those expectations never materialized. I think you could say they thought they received extreme mercy. Ever since they were shown the West would walk the talk they changed their tune -- it's one thing to claim to be crusading for democracy and human rights in a defensive war, another to actually fulfill such claims.

Also Burgerland is only a shithole in some aspects, and in specific places. People are nice over all.

>>5593187
Far right channels that all go for the EXACT same spot of the same city

>>5580272
>No better "Big City" than New York
>No better casinos than Las Vegas
>No better national park than Yellow Stone
>No better tropical island than Hawaii
>No better travel route than Route 66
>No better place to shoot guns than anywhere else
US has a lot to offer for tourism all in one country.

>>5594623
>No better "Big City" than New York
it's nice but i want to see tokyo more than new york.

>>5594623
>>No better national park than Yellow Stone
Yellowstone isn't even the best National Park primarily located in Northwest Wyoming desu

>>5593120
What about Denver?

>>5594661
That's fair. A lot of country's have their version of the "big city" that is unique to them and some are more attractive than others.
Still the US have a pretty good version of their Big City

>>5594752
It's popular for muh geysers and being a big national park.
There are a few other ones that are unique and good, but Yellow Stone is a name that bears a lot of weight.

>>5593041
This, although I suppose it depends on what the job is. Every company I applied to demanded that you have a degree. It didn't always have to be related to the job, but they needed to see that stupid slip of paper.

>>5579720
>Japan isn't the largest fan of America

I don't know if you're talking only about a modern perspective, but historically America and Japan have been "great friends" because Japan expected to be fucked up after accepting the terms of "unconditional surrender" in the Potsdam Declaration.
Instead the U.S. actually helped them rebuild and launch their new deal-type "economic miracle" and fucked them up less than a typical occupying force would before leaving. After that, it became easier to forgive and forget things especially for the loser of a war. You never wondered why Japan actually cares about baseball?

>>5595176
>You never wondered why Japan actually cares about baseball?
That predates WW2.

>>5589154
>YWNBA
Who would want to be?

>>5597457
it's eight of clock...

>>5593753

>>5595176
you've clearly never actually researched baseball in japan. babe ruth was a hero in japan pre-ww2, even after war broke out the japanese public weren't happy about him being their "enemy." it's a really interesting story

>>5589530
Is that an expectation or a hope?

>>5580431
I mean, we do but that's mostly because we managed to make the better part of a continent our country, any country as huge as us is going to have some nice vistas. And yes, I do mean Russia, Australia, and Canada too.

>>5607341
and china

Love and hate are irrelevant. Japan is America's lapdog and they know it.

>>5586060
>and unlike other nations such culture is acknowledged and celebrated, not asked to be integrated.
This is wrong though. They are asked to integrate, but because they isolate themselves in their mono ethnic neighborhoods they are able to ignore/resist such demands.

>>5592787
>Insane quality of life for managing just to graduate high school without having a teen pregnancy.
This hasn't been true since the 2007 recession and is only getting worse. Even college grads struggle to find decent paying jobs now.
>Reasonable tax rates despite subsidizing half the world’s military spending.
They seem reasonable until you factor in how overpriced our healthcare is. I pay almost as much a month for healthcare as I have taken out of my paycheck for taxes. Then if you want to live in an nice neighborhood free of third worlders you got to pay an exorbitant HoA fee. If you have kids, then you got to pay an arm and a leg for them to get a decent education as our public school system is a complete disgrace.

>>5579720
you should give credit to Hollywood, Disney and McDonald's for that.

>>5579720
>A lot of them seem to have liked America even before V-Tubing, but my impression was Japan isn't the largest fan of America. None the less you see them talking about wanting to go to NYC, see them wearing American flag glasses, wearing American flag clothing -- I don't quite get it.
Maybe stop listening to the retarded shit ESLs and unemployed wapanese retards say on /jp/. NYC has a sizable Japanese population, and it's a tourist attraction. It has a Kinokuniya and a bookoff, that should at least let you know they have enough Japanese customers on top of whatever locals swing by.

>>5593558
And they're always the prime targets of robberies by melanin enriched youths because Asians carry tons of cash especially when travelling.
>>5594290
What kind of cope is this?

>>5593753

>>5580272
America has some of the greatest natural wonders of the world. Unfortunately they decided to fill the country with black people.

>>5579720
i'm sure actually going to america would sort that attitude out right quick, OP