/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55577196
EN4 when? the dogs alone won't cut it

yes

Yes

>>55577196
yes

Yes, but only because an Omega EN3 in 2022 would have been awful, worse than Council.

>>55577280
>>55577361
Good. EN4 will be in another 2 years.

>>55577196
They are very good but they should have debuted last year

They hired the twins.
This is all I've ever wanted.
They contibue to be the best.

>>55577196
yes
if it was any sooner, the hires would have been objectively worse

>>55577196
>4/5
Fucking yes it was

>>55577196
I was impressed with everyone.
They definitely chose wisely.

>>55577196
yes, i love my two new wives and we're going to have lot of litters of children

>>55577196
yes gen 3 in both JP and EN are golden gens so far

>>55577403
good, dont need a new one, we're good as is

>>55577196
yes
would you rather new hires end up under omegay?

>>55577196
Yes

Already more successful than Council so yes

>>55577510
Imagine if EN3 debuted last year instead of now. They'd still be part-way through their previous engagements. Would they have dropped you-know-who to join up asap, or would they have continued for what seemed like the year long contract?

>>55577196
Probably the best *thing* to come out this year across all forms of media.

Yes, I love my demon of SOUP and Bijou is a pretty decent gamer, who might be able to keep up with Kaela.

>>55577196
Hell yes. I have barely watched Hololive the past year, but I have watched every Advent stream thus far and I can't even figure out a favorite yet. Easily the best EN gen.

>>55577670
I forgot to add that the dogs are pretty good too, even if I don't completely dig the whole kayfabe act.

>>55577196
>did what people asked them to do and sign the sisters
>picked up one of the OG EN Vtubers too
worth the wait for sure, just hate the fucking stream overlap

>>55577196
yes

>>55577196
Yes, I was unhappy with the council. All EN3 streamers are a step up this time. I particularly like the twins the most.

>>55577629
lot of people giving cover flak for waiting til now to pick up, but im not familiar with what kind of contract obligations they might have had, but it seems cover picked them up as soon as they could even though apparently they applies more than a few times

>>55577196
No. 2/4 of them are objectively bland and one is outright shit, but Holodrones would watch any garbage with the Hololive logo.

>>55577196
Yes I love my rock wife

>>55577196
>Nerissa
>Bijou
>FWMC
Absolutely. Not like I was actually waiting for them but it's very nice not seeing "EN3 doko" threads anymore

>>55577266
you're no holofan, nijifaggot. go back to your rotting corpo, you retarded piece of shit

>>55577599
They are my two top picks; Twins + Bijou

>>55577670
Bijou is an actual gamer, she's not gonna play mobile games for 20 hours a day like fuckin Kaela

>>55577196
Coulda skipped EN2 and still be worth the wait.

>>55577196
Yes

depends what you mean
>was it worth staying as an Hololive fan during the drought to have Advent as payoff
yes
>was it necesssary to wait so long for this gen to debut
nah
we could have had Advent in January, they were all hellbent (except maybe Shiori) on joining Hololive already

but what's past is past, i'm ready to enjoy the future

>>55577196
>They all stream in the dead of night
>All overlap like fucking crazy
No,
It was not worth it.
Fuwamoco and tempus are the only ones who stream in the mornings and they're the only ones i'm watching.
The only thing that is worth it

I actually think they waited about as long as they should wait for a new gen. New gens should be an event, not something we expect.

>>55577196
Yes. Thanks to Shiorin and Fuwamoco

There's that saying about how what is popular is not necessarily the best and that a large part of success is pure luck. Like the Sugar Man case. Advent has made me aware of how boring most of HoloEn is (Including your oshi) and made me accept that I only watch it for parasocial reasons.

TL;DR No. They ain't more entertaining than what we already had and as for the parasocial stuff, I'm already taken.

>>55577196
i'm still waiting, some of them will be corrupted.
just at a wait and see phase now,
EN took a while to get us Fauna and Mumei

>>55577196
T3mpus was indeed worth the wait

>>55577196
Theyre way better than myth and all at least fauna level. Based

>>55578196
>TL;DR for one line

>>55578235
they said that about kobo and look how she turned out. we full retard

>>55578196
I think you have ADD

>>55577196
Absolutely. It made the shark wife to come and stream again.

>>55578362
Kobo is kochot salamt pagi slama alakum

Yes, for Bijou. But she should have been in way earlier...instead we got Sana. I hope this bitch is somewhere out there having a bad life.

>>55578905
Sana hangs out with chinks all day working for them so yeah she's doing pretty awfully

>>55577196
YES

>>55577196
Pretty much only watching the twins now, so I guess it's okay.
I think I'm losing interest in vtubers in general though.

>>55578905
Sana actually showed she was a pretty damn good Holomem when she put her mind to it after she announced her graduation. So many elite collab streams. Totally wasted potential imo.

>>55577196
I still couldn't even find the time to watch any vod of them and i gave up on ever be able to see a livestream too
I am just not subbing and skipping to En4

>>55577196
Honestly, no. I hope they'll hire new girls before next year.

>>55577892
don't you have to find some more ways to shit on selen so your company doesn't look bad?

>>55579382
HoloID gen 4 is right around the corner, announcement coming in just a few days probably

>>55579328
EU bro...

>>55577196
Only the sisters are worthwhile, so meh, 2 years was too long.

>>55577629
If they could drop it without getting punished too hard (gor a vtuber gig where people will be upset if you replace someone) they totally wouldve

>>55579498
>HoloID
This joke always amuses me.

>>55577196
Absolutely not, it should've come out one year earlier.

>>55577196
Reminder to put trust in Cover. May not be perfect but they are trying. As long as Yagoo is CEO, they will have my trust.

>>55577196
Dogs are great. Nerissa is a good singer. The rest is meh.

>>55577196
Yes. It honestly feels like a hard reboot to the whole branch.

>>55577196
Yeah. All of these girls seem some combination of talented, hard working, and cute. Nobody grates on me. All of their models are great. The dogs alone mog like 70% of ENs.

Their chemistry is a little wonky but that might improve. Overall I'd score them as the best gen by most metrics, but Myth will always be the one I like the most.

>>55579328
>>55577266
>>55577892
>>55578196
>>55579678
>>55579720
Bau bau the fuck out fake niggers fans

>>55579646
Same.
Idol material in a third-world hellhole?
Hmm yes of course, this will work wonderfully

>>55577196
It took them so long that I've moved away from the hololive branch as a whole.

>>55577196
I don't really care for the wait, but I'm pleasantly surprised by how good the twins are. The rest range from forgettable to shit and I won't be watching them.

>>55579749
The homos wasted everyone's time, don't pretend otherwise. I'm not going to bend over and take it from Cover just because they delivered an admittedly great gen. Don't even try to imply this whole time was spent training.

>>55577196
Advent was worth it just for Fuwamoco filtering out fake fans and healing Holo EN. Nerissa and Bijou are just a bonus. Shiori can fuck off however

>two JP members
>a good pro singer but shit live singer
>a hard working sister experience rock cunny
>shit
If I'm being honest with myself, other smaller corpos have come out with better talent and it didn't take them two years to do so. I'm no longer blinded by brand loyalty.

>>55579301
Sana was worthless. She had some good and fun ideas, did them a few times, tabled them quickly, refused to do something she was good at unlike Ina, and then took huge breaks for whateverthefuck reasons. I liked her so much at the start, I really did, but she burned that good will really quickly. It wouldn't be so annoying if I didn't like her humor, accent, and some of her earlier streaming ideas.

>>55577196
No, they should have debuted at least a year ago and we should be talking about EN4 right now.
Fuck homos.

>>55579947
Keep eating shit. Hololive is still the top for a reason

>>55577196
The new members: yes
The timing: no, they should have been on EN4 by now
The stream schedule for anywhere except NA: somehow worse than it was in 2020 despite having 3 times as many members, what the fuck are they doing

>>55577196
Yes

>>55580010
I immediately dropped Sana for having a brown model. Racism can save a man from a lot of heartache.

>>55580108
They're really not. Just because something is more popular, does not make it better. I realize this now and one day, you might realize it too.

>>55577196
Mixed feelings. I like all the talents but they all stream in the middle of the night. I've adjusted my sleep schedule so I can catch some streams, but I don't know if I can sustain it.

>>55577791
>history is filled with liars. If he lives and we die, his truth becomes written and ours is lost.

i dont like shiori
rissa needs to wash her mouth
cunny and dogs are ok

>>55577196
Yes. Golden fucking gen. Things looked so grim in the past few months my expectations for EN3 were low as shit.

>>55577196
Yes but they might have killed the previous gens, after watching the newcomers, who are actually trying, I lost all interest in myth or council, maybe IRyS get a pass tho

>>55580203
>Just because something is more popular, does not make it better.
It does in Hololive's case. People have equal access to every vtuber for the price of free and more people choose Hololive because it's the best option.

yes

>>55580545
Delusional coverdrone simplifying things.
Having access to content is not the same as knowing content exists. Hololive has been around for 6 years, boosted by the JP talents and audience (there's a reason they went from 6view debut CCV to 4view in one week) and escaped into the algorithms of many EN speakers. Same for the Reddit and Covid boosts.

People being more familiar with Hololive is just the nature of media due to their age and clean image.

>>55579384
Selen being a fucking pariah for most NijiEN fans is a level of irony I did not think was even possible. I kind of feel bad for her now.

>>55577196
Yes. Really I'd say it was no wait at all! Been watching hololive for like 10 months

>>55577196
3/5 could have been better

Bau bau carrying. Nerissa was a big surprise. Biboo is acceptable. Shiori was a massive letdown.

I'd say it did was okay.

>>55580983
>3/5! D-don't get cocky holokeks!

>>55580983
Who's the third one?

>>55580203
It being more popular means more people prefer it and choose it over others which makes it objectively better. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that.

>>55581180
If numbers was an indication of objective quality, that would make Shiori better than Aki or Mel.

>>55577196
I didn't get my frog HoloEN so I can shit up her chat without any remorse, so no it wasn't worth the wait.

>>55577509
So is ID3.

>>55577196
Objectively yes. I do think they could have killed a lot of the hate by saying EN 3 was being worked on, though. My only flaw is non-PDT timezones are tumbleweed and people from other regions should be a priority for EN 4.

>>55581280
This isn't about numbers though. Hololive has more pull and is more interesting so people choose Hololive. That makes it objectively better.

>>55577196
Yes, but there shouldn't be a wait to begin with.

Hopefully Hololive is the focus from now on, not Holostars

>>55581280
nta, but numbers in relation to EN within same company, where the girls compete with each other. I think from a business stand point it is a success, but my opinion is also that they’re better than people were expecting. Better than EN2.

>>55581143
Bijou, maybe a little too zoomer, but she has great potential

>>55581478
Numbers is the only real difference between Hololive and other corpos.

>>55581613
>but she has great potential
This. She's entertaining, funny, is a real gamer and streams for long. There won't be a lack of content from her.

>>55580884
Do you really think there isn't a subset of people here because they're the strongest corpo brand with the biggest reach? Cover gives their talent the ability to do things like psudo-live preformances on stage in front of thousands in person and hundreds of thousands online. Production values can very, but tend to be some of the highest budgeted ones in the vtuber world. This is a major draw.

Still can't believe we got ENs with japanese work autism. FuwaMoco starting 5 minutes early, being on time and what not makes me believe they will not become lazy.
Them aside, Rock Cunny is cute and funny Daughter Experience.
Nerissa doesn't interest me much even if Kiara is my EN Oshi, but she isn't a bad pick and could be the best singer in EN.
Even Shiori brings something to the table but it is not for me.
Absolute godsend of a Gen, Council lasted like a week before I completely lost all interest in them, and here I am still totally hyped over FuwaMoco.
Thanks based Jap-sama and Yagoo-sama. I RIKE

We’ll see. I’m waiting a month or two for them to get over doing the super forced voices and lore stuff all the time. Then I’ll see if any of them are worth watching.
Fuwamoco are super annoying though so I doubt they will get better.

in hindsight, could the entire issue with council be summarised with: white western women ?

>>55582390
People like you are the reason why Vtubing should be gatekeeped. Fuck off and watch Twitch E-celebs.

>>55577196
FuwaMoco singlehandedly saving EN.

>>55582390
Hololive is not for you.

>>55577196
Demitri Jap, I KNEEL

>>55582550
>Less white woman in Council (2/5) than in Myth (4/5) and Advent (3/5)
>White Western Woman are the reason why Council sucks
What did Anon mean by this?

>>55577196
Why is shiori so out of place in advent? She cant sing, she doesnt play video games, and her hunor is very lukewarm

>>55577196
Remains to be seen. Looks good so far.

>>55582980
Sana of Advent.

>>55582688
Omg fake fan fake fan. I watch plenty of hololive I just find vtubers to be kinda annoying before they find their footing. There are a million streams to catch up on, I don’t want to waste my time watching people who haven’t figured out what they are fully doing yet.

>>55582550
>white, western women
>the white members of council are the best ones

>>55582980
Cover numberfagged auditions. Only way she got through.

>>55582980
I actually quite like being able to watch a vtuber that doesn't make the same exact gaming/singing content all the time

>>55577266
They are good, just shiori needs to be replaced

>>55582390
I hope they keep it up and keep filtering tourist faggots like you.

>>55577196
So far they're fine, yeah.

>>55582980
I like that she brings something different. I think as she gets more comfortable and finds her footing she'll be a very valuable niche for EN although she might have to work harder than the others for it

>>55577196
Not really no EN3 is kinda mid
Would have been fine if they released on a normal schedule after EN2 but waiting an extra year for THIS is disappointing

>>55579772
jkt48 is the most popular akb sister group atm if you dont know anon

It's a very good 4/5 gen. Still shouldn't have taken two fucking years, though.

>>55577403
>>55577508
Agreed. I don't know how JP bros keep up with how many talents there are.
Hopefully one day holoEN will have a centralized channel with those game show type vids

it's a 5/5 gen in a 1/5 branch

>>55577196
Yes
>>55577397
This
Thank you Jap

>>55577196
Yes. I like Bijou, the twins are excellent, Nerissa solid, and Shiori is good for her tangents. Now lets see how they collab.

>>55577196
4/5 ain’t bad.

>>55577196
yes

>>55579749
>>55577927
I don't get this sentiment. I'm not going to be forced by faggots to like EVERYONE in Hololive. I like the twins from Advent and that's it. They were worth the wait honestly by themselves. The rest are kind of mid. Nerissa can sing I give her that but those 3 have yet to show me anything worthy of being hired. They are new so I haven't given up on anyone yet but I'm also not going to pretend they are amazing either just because they apart of Hololive like a fucking drone.

>>55577670
Bijou has skills to play games. Kaela just autism and free time.

>>55577791
>the victors
exactly
now kneel to her genmates, since she is the runt of advent
>lowest subs
>lowest views
>lowest ccv
>lowest growth
it is over for the cucks

>>55577196
I am in love with my big tittied goth girlfriend and her supporting cast is acadamy award winning level

>>55577196
for me it was worth the wait. fuwamoco is everything i've ever wanted from a vtuber and i finally found it. i hope others can feel the same about their en3 oshis.

>>55585611
Omg fake fan. Fuck off if you don’t enjoy the exact things I like! You are what is thinning society.

>>55585611
>Nerissa can sing I give her that but those 3 have yet to show me anything worthy of being hired
If you don't think Bijou was a good hire after she talked about making ramen with milk(which she pronounces "miwk") and American cheese then you have no soul

>>55582980
>Why is shiori so out of place in advent?
Why was she even hired? Is she supposed to be the Ame equivalent of Advent?

>>55577196
They’re good, thanks Mr. Jap

Shiori however not sure if she fits in hololive but I’m willing to give her some time before I start making anti threads

>>55585676
Bijou is literally the gaming irl

If her story about getting into hololive is real, she might very much see life as a souls game

>>55577196
Absolutely.

>>55586461
>>55582980
she was hired because not only does she have the most vtubing experience out of everyone, she has a special niche in making informative videos that nobody else has in the industry.

>>55577196
I'm pretty sure no matter who ended up in Advent people will be able to convince themselves into thinking they're perfect and no one else could even compete. Imagine criticizing Cover hell nah

Yes, the doggos wouldn't have gotten in had EN3 come sooner

>>55577196
Never waited, never cared. But the Twins got in there and they are all I care about.

>>55585611
You MUST love the box
You MUST push the box
Heil Hololive!

>>55577196
So far so good, wasn't a holoviewer, but I I did feet bad for holobros getting Tempus instead of another gen, and how whole holoEN felt left out. Girls seem very nice, well you know there is a Shiori, but I think she'll figure it out, unless she'll have a woman moment.
Love rock and dogs very much, Nerissa can crack some good jokes sometimes.

>>55585611
I only like fuwamoco because they actually stream during EU hours.
The rest are fucking worthless pieces of shit.

>>55577196
4/5 definitely worth the wait.

>>55577196
Almost. I just hope it won't be the same amount of time before EN4 but I think subs/merch/members growth for the existing members are gonna be the determining factor in that.

>>55577196
>ESL gen
No, no it wasn't.

>Nerissa
>FuwaMoco
>Bijoui

Took way too long sure but we are off to a very good start, gotta wait for a couple of months more to see how it all ends up but...for now?, stellar cast, 5/5 will SC, membership and marry.

>>55577892
>I am a speshul snowflake
>Obscure vtubers is my identity

>>55582980
Shiori was hired by the same shit Niji scouting mentality
>UOHHH BIG DEAD SUBS CHANNEL MUST HIRE

>>55577196
yes if only for the fact that the management team of 2021-22 were fucking nuked or neutered. Imagine if EN 3 was dropped in the midst of Tempus tard shilling.

>>55589848
>ARGGHHHHHH FUCK OBSCURE SHIT SEETHING 2VIEW SHITTERS
>Btw have you seen le based wholesomerino story of the 2view doggerinos saved by Hololive(tm), I'm so special for liking popular thing!

>>55577892
>ut Holodrones would watch any garbage with the Hololive logo.
almost like thats the point of an idol group?!?!

>>55591030
You're missing the point
Or maybe you don't want to get it

>>55579498
I don't care about ID

>>55577196
yes. i love all the girls, and i wish them the best. next thread.

>>55577196
3/5 is more than i expected