/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

this one

>>55337476
Remember, holocity is another NFT scam

>EU timezone
>No EU donations

This is now a ChineseMaple thread. BELO JOGO!

>>55337365
Don't respond to Amerimutts

Time zones are not real, they do not exist

>>55337454
The story of that offcollab still makes me laugh
>Ina: I don't want to dance, it's good as is!
>Kiara: SHUT UP AND DANCE, INA!
>pic related

I wish holos had cooler shit in their lives like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kojc33XF9pM
All they ever do is walk around or float around
At best they sit around

This one I guess

>>55337596
tip culture is a cancer

>>55337389
this one

Inb4 there will b e zero EU donations during FWMC Nobeta stream

>>55337389
Timefags, it’s our time

>>55337734
Suityan kakkoi!!

>>55337559
>>55337083
>>55337389
so... which one?

The pillars of holoEN

Do people really think europeans don't spend money? Like, nobody sells products or services in Europe? One of the wealthiest regions in the world, one of the ONLY viable markets for middle class luxury goods and entertainment?

The Niji thread is pissed off that EN isn't invited to Nijifes

What's next for nijiEN? Graduation buff seems to be wearing off. Do they have any buffs left?

>>55337830
Oh they spend money alright, just not on Vtuber

Fuwamoco -> Ina, Fauna
Ina -> Rissa, Bijou
Fauna -> Rissa, Bijou, Fuwamoco
Rissa, Bijou, Fuwamoco -> Irys

HoloJP-lite strat funnel today? Overlaps seem pretty lax this time, unless someone sneaks in a stream.

a cold late night to you anons.

>>55337771
I honestly don't give a shit as long as they aren't all streaming at the same time

Euros status?

>>55337805
The one that isn't about nijishitters

>>55337872
they do spent on whore but not the virtual one

>>55337855
I thought there's more to announce?

>>55337855
NojiEN thread, or /2434/?

>>55337883
drinking coffee

>>55337882
>This
>Cold

>>55337855
I mean I would be if the chuuba i supported didnt get to go to a big event

>>55337805
desu niji still needs their tally winning op for today but i refuse to give it to the one with nijien in the op so we're going with this one

>>55337882
>29*c
>cold
eh?

>>55337805
the jannies will probably decide

>>55337923
definitely. they're probably going to announce a full day dedicated to EN to make up for the AR live.

>>55337883
Sitting on the shitter at a house party

>>55337830
StingyJewCope.

>>55337882
What app do you use

>>55337855
good, Mito is pissed about niji en behaviour after all

>>55337872
It's almost as if targeted marketing induces demand for products and services. Every other industry is able to do it, but I guess vtubers are special.

>>55337960
I don't, that is such a petty thing to be mad about, most of the time if they are not there, then it is because of a good reason
I only get mad when there's no reason

>>55337882
classic

Fauna and Moom ASMR doko

>>55337855
they only choose the closest with japan, which is SEA dweller... and who already in japan,
cost efficiency

>>55337883
Not being real
Like seriously, has anyone here ever seen euro in person?
They are bullshit, Cover is just smart in avoiding literally non-existent region

>>55337882
>SEAfag
>retarded

EU time zone cannot fail, it can only be failed

The thing I don't understand about Mumei is that she's getting subs but literally no one is watching her shit. Why the fuck are people subbing if no one is doing their vod or even music reps. She's literally down there with Kronii views wise (though not total views because at the end of the day she has streamed more than Kronii and has released more successful music)

Like are people just clicking subscribe without actually watching her conent? And why?

>>55338056
Polska gurom

>>55337389
>>55337420
>/int/ OP
Now THIS is tribalfagging!

>>55338044
Maybe thats for niji corpo bootlickers but that shit is kinda weird

>>55337870
Transfer to main brunch buff for Japanese speakers. Some KRs inclined for a couple of months.

>>55337882
>29°C
>Cold
Bitch it's fucking hot.

>>55338114
moom cute

who's the biggest EU chuuba?

>>55337805
Should be the Mito one in theory but no one's using it so this is the better of the remaining two

>>55338167
I like Amiya but calling her big would be silly

>>55338124

18:00 JST today

we have any eufag here? what kind of content you like fags?

>>55338167
I can tell you who is the biggest in NA
Mori

>>55337389
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Kuzuha sololive
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1687801849817272320
Ada M. graduated
https://youtu.be/CR01LJOYFK0

Yesterday's news:
>V&U 3rd Gen, ORACLE, is debuting today
https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1687389149014466560
>New Chaika costume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r30iL4OVQQc
>Pekora Idol Showdown trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNx_ObPDRcs
>New unit under RIOT music
https://panora.tokyo/archives/70241
>Towa sololive tickets on sale
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1687750297823629312
>NijiFes2023 + niji concert details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y8cxc_AxVo

>>55338230

>>55338114
People accidentally subscribe to Mooms after mistaking her for Gura.

>>55338254
Cute girls speaking softly with no BGM outside of rain and singing opera

>>55337855
Not the Nijispy but I checked their thread out of curiosity.
> some nijifans complaining about EN branch not being included in JP events and generally being ignored.
> considering Petra was not invited, they rightfully assume there's no plans for Obsydia 3D anytime soon.
> point out how Salome who debuted 10 months after them already has her 3D.
> lots of the usual nijicope : "en fans don't care about jp events", "lol why are you guys so hungry for acknowledgement", "why do you care, it'll be all 2D anyway", "why do you even bother, not like management will give a shit" etc. etc.
> holo comparisons about relatively fast 3D for all branches, counter with "different company" and "of course it's a holobrony" cope.
> nijispy post in /#/ linked on their thread
> now all management criticism becomes "oh it's the numberfags throwing bait again" or "oh it's the holobronies again".
> nijifans can no longer genuinely criticize shitty management decisions without being called an outsider
> all it took was a single post in /#/
MOST
INFLUENTIAL
THREAD

i can't wait to hear fuwamoco just go UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>55337855
You mean the NijiEN thread?
I doubt the real Niji thread is pissed about it or even care.

I am excited for King sololive, no homo btw, I just thought it would be funny to watch it haha

>>55338230
the death of homos... i can feel it...

>>55338124
>>55338223
This will end up like BaeRyS since one of these bitches had a husbando list on debut

>>55338114
quality > quantity

>>55338356
Wow, you fucks must be miserable

Predictions for FuwaMoco's Nobeta?

>>55338040
It's like you're pretending market mismatches don't exist or something.

>>55338114
>The thing I don't understand about Mumei is that she's getting subs

>>55337830
Fifa pack opening vtuber when?

Choo choo

>>55338362
imagine thinking numberfags want to go shit up /nijien/ when we're having the debate of the century about time zones

How do I remove this?

>>55338362
They’ll still be licking the boot when NijiEN gets merged

>>55338397
...you think it would be funny to watch a male sololive.
okay.

>>55338426
less than this number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_gFJJ2ToLg

>>55338490
No homo btw haha

>>55337882
do you understand how celsius works?

>>55338461
What happened to this event by the way? Was it a success?

>>55337923
No there isn't, they announced every stage event already and Shu confirmed he wasn't participating this year

>>55338480
buy this, its also support your 1view oshi to 3view income

>>55338490
Not him but I liked the MonsterZ MATE one, it had Marpril in it and shit, good stuffs, the dudes themselves too

>>55338167
Shylily but she panders to NA

>>55337805
One was made very early

>>55337883
Watching Forsen until Dogs start

>>55338561
>Shu confirmed
source? if real then kek

>>55338480
Adblocker?

>>55338480
I'm glad at least some numberfags have ads on, I feel like we must miss out a lot of intel on vtuber ad campaigns because no one in this thread sees them

>>55338362
the thread's regulars have become so colossally stupid that I'm starting to suspect the one defending Anycolor are the actual raiders
Like you can't hate yourselves that much, right
They see nothing wrong with this

>>55338114
does this count unarchive frame view? mumei does a lot of those

>>55338167
Shondo if she join hololive

>>55338475
Yikes.

You know there is a saying which goes like
"If the things are too good to be true then expect something shitty to happen".
I really Advent but I'm unable to get invested, there is this underlying dread that one of them will eventually do something stupid and we will go through another stupid ass another drama.
That kronii debacle and this male/no male shit flinging has really scarred me.
Things were simpler back then.

>>55338408
I hope your realize that doesn't make sense. If she had "quality" then people would be watching her vods/listening to her music more. Instead people sub and don't do anything.

>>55338167
Vibae, if she counts. If not Shylilly

>>55338167
must be Vei

>>55338648
that mentality will prevent you from enjoying anything

Do Shioriiiiiiiin~ antis bleed?

>>55338648
The shitty thing already happened last year

>>55338427
Things that are marketable in Europe:
>sexy women
>pop music
>concerts
>video games
>manga
>anime
>japanese brands and products
>video game streaming
>video game youtube videos
>english language media

>>55338606
nta but https://twitter.com/shu_yamino/status/1687884689820827648

>>55338630
What are you even talking about? Are you expecting me to care about more misfortune for NijiEN? Anon they have bad news like literally every single week and I don't even watch them, what am I supposed to say? As an outsider it got boring back in late 2022 and it just. keeps. going

>>55338660
>what are unarchived karaokes

>>55338648

>>55338693
Is that from the taiwanese iname schizos?

>>55338648
I really Advent, too, but I'm unable to get invested
They stream at fucking 2 to 4 AM

>>55338612
I see them if I watch someone on my phone at lunch. Lots of 1views and occasionally companies like Idol or PixelLink run ad campaigns.

>>55338734
Where was the unarchived karaoke, or streams in general, for the past 12 or so days that she got a massive sub boost out of fucking nowhere?

So looking at at yesterdays early morning Subaru talk stream numbers while being overalap by the twins she normally gets around 24 to 26k on it meaning that the twins got those extra viewers going to their stream which pretty much confirms that they are extremely reliant on the JP box not the EN box for their high end numbers

>>55337692
Well holo's concerts are AR so you can't actually do that without making the streaming experience worse

>>55338693
I just got reminded Advent was supposed to be even bigger threat to humanity than Myth, to the point God himself have to face them and put them in containment

>>55338630
>I'm starting to suspect the one defending Anycolor are the actual raiders
that would ne retarded since "people" like that also exist in reddit even way before nijien was a thing.

>>55338731
meant the /nijien/'s regulars
being actual anycolor defenders
when their own branch is getting screwed

>>55338275
Love sheep

>>55338835
Ahh, got it.

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>55338612
NTA, but I keep getting ads from some Korean agency with EN vtubers.

>>55338729
Seems like they picked people who were not there last year. I assume Shu was present at the last one?

>>55338648
I’m an ChumCrat and I’m buying ShioriCoin, you can trust my judgement.

>>55338693
kill omega, and I won't be your anti

>>55337882
my late night is colder than yours

>55338475
Yeah she really falls in the same category as Mori and Kronii. All of them are more comfortable around males. You can see with how they carry themselves.
Mori, Kronii and now Shiori all have same attitude when they Collab their genmates.

>>55338548
>>55320499

>>55338362
funnily enough, i was waiting for that "part 2" announcement as it coincides with the screenshots looking barren as heck with pricey tickets.

>>55338835
It's funny because even the original nijisanji thread thinks that EN management is screwing them over.

1M for Hologra soon?
>>55338114
she's cute and mumei has done more collabs on other channels and has been in more holobox streams. in the time frame you're looking at, mumei has 7 public streams on her channel while kronii has 10 public streams, not surprising kronii has more views.
>>55338633
unarchived views are not counted, it's why you'll see luna decrease in views from time to time when she privates a vod
>>55338778
have you not been looking at the sub boost for literally all of HoloEN? everyone is getting a sub boost because of advent. mumei gets more of a sub boost than the others because singer buff plus tourist friendly content.

>>55338934
Enough with you and your mental illness already

>>55338560
>giving money to Jewtube
I'll stick to buying merch and leeching gift memberships, thank you very much.

>>55338362
That is unironically like, a shitty thing, right?
It does suck that EN isn't getting support in the main events, compared to Holo, where the IDs and ENs have been staple factors in the Hololive events for years now, with the exception of very specifically region-focused events (like how the ENs or IDs don't show up to Baseball stuff because Baseball is a Japanese game, or how convention appearances typically focus on the region's stars).
I would get it a bit more if they're positioning it as "NijiFES is a NijiJP specific event, none of the other branches are showing up, either," but it still would be a bit rough to take that cold shoulder.

>>55338612
I always have my ads on since thats how i discovered shabel, merus sister

>>55338648
I'm all in on FWMCcoin which literally cannot go tits up, going to coom to Shiori and wait to see if she doesn't screw up by month 6 before getting any more invested than that, and I like the other two as well. I feel great, no dread at all.

>>55337855
>Niji thread is pissed off that EN isn't invited to Nijifes
Good and deserved for being such pathetic bootlickers.

>>55338693
Yes they bleed once a month because they are mainly jealous women

>>55338778
it's not massive when compared to the rest of council, only 50% more than Fauna which can be explained by her collab with Gura and birthday stream

>>55338968
>ave you not been looking at the sub boost for literally all of HoloEN?
Except Kronii

>>55338685
Yeah but it also hurts less.

>>55338930
we are really fucked huh. 29c would normally be at noon, now it's hot as fuck still. really couldn't sleep from all the sweating

>>55338648
exactly my thoughts, i can't watch a shiori stream without dreading that she'll spout a homo's name or meme

>>55339035
>only 50% more than the girl actually streaming and showing up on the main channel (twice) while being part of a new song

>>55338362
They actually really should be complaining and not just fucking shielding AnyKuro from being stupid. Why are they defending the company and not the Vtubers?

>>55339065
If she's smart she'll see how many people think she's their perfect goth girlfriend and scrap those plans

>>55338362
wtf our usual shitposters are sleeping

>>55338630
Shitpost meta in that thread seems to be evolving now
The bootlickers are satirized with posts like -
> Actual fans know that Management knows whats best for the branch
Which is supposed to be ironic shitposting but simultaneously there's a bunch of people in the thread that seem to genuinely believe this as well ("next year for sure guiz!" or "i don't care as long as my oshi streams, and you shouldn't either").

There's also NijiJP vs NijiEN posting similar to Holo vs Holo here, and "JPchad" style posts justifying Niji prioritizing JP branch and being a JP company etc. but those are probably shitposters... I think.

They've twisted themselves into such a pretzel that I don't think even they themselves know what is a genuine post anymore.
Fascinating stuff.

>>55338362
We talk about grim a lot but this? Now THIS is grim.

>>55337633
Withdrawal from NATO when EUbeggar?

>>55339042
7k in a week is still a huge buff for kronii, just less of a buff than for the others

>>55338782
It's perfectly doable using the power of choreography, standard rotation/elevation trickery and some tracked boxes being moved by invisible staff tho?
Like, it's even doable live

>>55338635
>Asking a mentally ill lolibaba to join Hololive.
Thinking she will succeed.

>>55338993
fortunately with a lot of money, you don't care about that silly thing, I don't even know how much this subscription costs

>>55338370
The real Niji thread probably just sees them as vermin

>>55338362
they really do oshi the company

>>55339108
Too busy defending the house.

>>55339101
Fauna has no jp appeal, sorry

Let's see how many times he replies to himself

>>55339058
>>55338930
Why don’t you Europoors have A/C? I’m a southern burger, shit gets 40C during the day but I’m inside wearing blankets. A small little AC probably enough for you fags

>>55338992
Have you not seen her attitude in today's Collab. And then there is her past.
Normally I wouldn't judge a talent based on their past because people can change but Shiori hasn't. She literally has the same energy as Kronii and mori

>>55339046
It hurts less, but you have less joy.
If you follow that path down to its end, you'll end up feeling nothing at all, and despair at the void you created in your soul by encasing yourself with armor.
You may think that it's better to hide from the pain, instead of exposing yourself to joy and sadness as they come. But without intervention, you may find yourself wondering what the point of life is at all once you've retreated far enough.
After all, when you don't feel any pain, or any happiness, that's when you feel closest to the void that existed before you were born. And then, returning to it suddenly doesn't feel so scary.
It's a bad path.

>>55339292
Her mindshare has been increasing. The numbers dont lie >>55338968

>>55338362
> now all management criticism becomes "oh it's the numberfags throwing bait again" or "oh it's the holobronies again".
> nijifans can no longer genuinely criticize shitty management decisions without being called an outsider
I actually thought nijis being bootlickers were just a meme but damn.

>>55338648
> there is this underlying dread that one of them will eventually do something stupid
If it's anyone, it'll be Shiori.
the other three have EXPLICITLY made their stances quite clear
Bijou explicitly said she wants to collab with all the Hololive GIRLS.
Nerissa UNLIKED homobeggar fanart. That's ACTIVE stuff, you can't do that while being unaware of the implications.
Fuwamoco literally did an idol pledge.
All 4 of them have not followed a single homo.
They are safe as all hell.
If you're a Novelite though, good luck, and I can only hope you survive the inevitable.

>>55339137
My country is not even in NATO AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>55339162
Sure, might be that JP staff still can't catch up to Chinese trickery

Ooooh, everyone is here. That's why the other thread was eerily quiet.

>>55339328
You only see it that way because you're an obsessed schizo looking for anything to shit on her. Normal humans don't think like that.

>>55339101
Don't be silly, if stream time was perfectly correlated with sub gain then Gura wouldn't be at the top of EN sub gain while Kiara is middling.
It's about broad appeal, there's always multiple factors in play that stack onto the base sub gain.

>>55339338
Riku is their oshi

>>55338114
Someone in Council has to put up a fight against Advent

Refute >>55338725 you cowards.

>>55339102
Yeah just like how Kronii stopped after she promised to not collab with Vesper

>>55338362
nijifriends... your oshi corpo earns 5 billion yen more than Cover...

>>55339334
Alternatively he could learn how to let it go and become a buddha

>>55339402
In ASEAN?

>>55337389
some schizo doing monolog, i think thats the OP

>>55339127
I mean that's the reaction you'd expect when you get people going in there screaming "hey guys get mad about this thing!!" A curt "i don't care fuck off" at best, even if they are annoyed their favorite got left out. You see the same thing with the reactions to people concern trolling about Shiori.

>>55338725

>>55339450
EU fags watch shit like shylily and Vei, they shouldn’t be pandered to by Hololive unless we get a EN Koyo that doesn’t mind the grind or being a “perverted dog”.

>>55339506
fuck, i mean this >>55337083

>>55339183
Yes and?

Always remember Nijinigs think Cover pays for a dancer to move like a dope

>>55339328

I don't think Shiori will collab with homos but I don't like her overall attitude and her shit sense of humor. Her forced ass "bottom" shit and "after black you don't go back" shit while sending incest comments to FWMC are just garbage.

>>55339545
Mexibros ww@?

>>55339566
dog lamy... my beloved....

>>55339545
Where's Indonesia, which has its own holo branch?

>>55339568
nah i watch forsen

>>55339302
dunno about other countries but there is striaght up no need for it in germany for 99,9% of the year. there are a couple of days per year where it can get actually hot and even thats not guaranteed. this year has been super mild with just 2 days where it got into the 35+
on the whole EU dosen't donate thing according to wesave.chat i donated 11,312.93$ to my oshi. got all the merch of hers i could get and even a few japanese exclusive ones i snatched off ebay

Rebellion MV has artwork of Nerissa that looks eerily similar to Albedo holding the ginnungagap

>>55339611
See >>55339597

>>55339568
Anon, do you really think it's EUfags watching them?

>>55339402
Wow, disgusting SEafags still in this thread

>>55339402
>strangely defends what "national" means in EU bloc
>backs away when called out
Pottery

>>55339669
Do we have any info on twitch donations?

>>55339637
who's foreskin?

>>55339127
>Which is supposed to be ironic shitposting
Anon that hasnt been ironic shitposting for a while since you can see posts like that on youtube comments as well.

>>55339715
Go ask /lig/

>>55339611
two weeks, trust the plan.

>>55339714
forsens foreskin

>>55339665
None of what I said had anything to do with her being comfortable around dudes and I explicitly stated I don't think she would. But don't pretend her ""humor"" and banter is something that's ever been brought into HoloEN before

>>55339545
Surprised to see flipland at 2nd. I thought flipland is mostly kpopfags.

What did Gura mean by this?

>>55339450
He didn't mention Disco Polo, a highly important point in conquering Polish market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VLHittFkSk

>>55339783
>please seethe!
>please seethe!
>please seethe!!!

>>55339545
>no indonesia
Indobros? Our market? I thought it was worth something and not worthless?

>>55339800
If you can't lift your own body weight, youre dead to her

>>55339611
I don't care. She doesn't collab with males = she can do whatever within reason.

kind of sad how at this point /#/ of all places is more sympathetic to NijiEN than /NijiEN/

>>55339800
Buff ebi cute.

>>55339591
The only concert I remember undeniably having paid dancers was that once JP concert the Vshojo hoes "performed" in a couple years ago. That was obvious because there was no fucking way Ironmouse was moving like that, prerecorded or not.

>>55339568
>If I like them it's Americans watching them at EU hours
>If I don't like them it's the euros watching them

>>55339800
Oh fuck off please. Let FWMC have their time today.

>>55339878
This.

>>55339860
Dude I stated an opinion. You're the one seething here.

>>55339800
that's me

>>55339046
Anon I've had a family member die young in a car accident and felt literally nothing.
Guy used to buy me chocolate and that was the extent of my connection with him, but still.
Used to watch Etika's clips and finding out he died was slightly sad.

None of that even compared to the way I lost my breath when I excitingly checked for Mano Aloe's return stream and found her graduation notice.
Or the literal PIT that opened in my stomach on July 9th, 2021 when I opened reddit at breakfast as usual and saw Coco's announcement pinned.

There's been a TON of bad shit that happened over the years I've been watching Hololive, but I don't - and will never - regret getting into this hobby.
The sadness was real, and it was PAINFUL. But time heals everything. Kson herself healed a lot of that thanks to her more recent actions.
But I still love all the Asacoco skits from that time all the same.
Those memories will stay with your LONG past the sadness that you will feel after a bad incident.

And take heart that the worst thing that could happen nowadays is a simple homo collab that you can ignore, rather than your oshi literally getting harassed to tears on stream, or to almost suicide.

Kiara ... Please stop shit on your own time zone ...

Kiara mentioning wanting HoloEU lol

>>55339800
I literally look like that

>>55339922
>Day 5 of overlap whiners being BTFO
>Still going

>>55339861
They are worthless

>>55339878
Based fence-sitter.

>blogposting hours

>>55339884
I mostly just hate the company, though their livers can do some dumb shit sometimes

>>55339715
IDK but Shylily puts that country flag option up from time to time. If I remember right the plurality of her viewers were Americans but there were a lot of Germans, like the 2nd highest group. Lot of South Koreans too for some reason. This was an EU time stream but it was also many months ago when we talked about it.

>>55340031
Kaela is good

>>55339979
Etika dying crushed me. I wonder if he could have become a vtuber.

>>55339979

The Shiori schizo gives me strong Selenposter vibes. Then again I haven't seen any of the usual IRyS and Fauna seethe lately.

>>55340016
Inb4 the reason we have no EU time holos is because of her convincing Cover it would require a whole branch

>>55340016
Just go back to JP dumb chicken

>>55340031
>noticed both Aruran and Iofi holding hands.
Cute couple.

>>55340005
>>55340016
Did someone from here go to her chat and bring up EU or something?

>>55340016
>an entire gen of mid-4views
eeeeeeh

>>55340092
Faunaschizo was here today

>>55340061
Isn't she german?

>>55340197
Council.....
Advent in 3 months....

>>55340186
She was talking about the overlap because of the new girls

>Shiori want to destroy your childhood
H-hot.

>>55338019
built-in, windows.

>>55338597
based
today is the day

>>55340092
There's several people who don't like Shiori here but the one spamming schizo posts about her is an opportunist who switches up his anti target multiple times per day.

>>55339783
Anon why do you think that she won't Collab with Homos? Like I'm genuinely asking. Unlike other schizos I don't even mind male Collabs it's the idol haters whom I despise

>>55340016
>Kiara mentioning wanting HoloEU lol
Chicken is talking out of her ass, won't even collab w/ premier EU talent like Rin Penrose to strengthen the region

>>55338648
>can't wait a few measly days/weeks until collab ban ends
>recites some shitty philosophy that only retarded ass NEETS, who had never had to fend for themselves, shit out.

give it time, and if in doubt, check the numbers and you will see the future

>>55338999
> It does suck that EN isn't getting support in the main events, compared to Holo, where the IDs and ENs have been staple factors in the Hololive events
I think they're trying extremely hard to cope with saying "it's a different company".
They're stretching to absurd lengths to defend management decisions for some reason, because they've always had that bit of inferiority complex with Hololive, and so when anyone says something critical by bringing up Hololive, it feels like they HAVE TO ignore whatever it is that Holo has done and just judge Nijisanji decisions in a vacuum for some reason.
Because everything Hololive does is like a spotlight on everything that Nijisanji DOESN'T do, and that fact is EXTREMELY hard to accept for a NijiEN fan.

>>55339422
>Normal humans don't think like that.
I think that guy is a schizo, but this is patently false.

>>55339933
I don't care about your shitty opinion that gets spammed nonstop in this thread. Get a new angle.

>>55340016
How's her HoloDE account? She cannot beg if she cannot prove she can bring viewers.

>>55340016
Then she would start complaining about overlapping and numbers. Dumb chicken.

>>55339783
it's miles better than anything that's ever came out of mori's mouth that's for sure

>>55340293
who?

>>55340061
Speaking of which, she's live now and has the flag thing on. Same as last time, burgers, Germans, Taiwanese, Koreans, Canadians, bongs. And yes she's German but she doesn't stream in German because twitch is draconian about language use.

Advent failed to produce a Gura/Kobo so it's a failed gen to me.

>>55338362
This is what true side branch mentality looks like.

Kiara also mentioned enjoying her EU timezone monopoly while she still can until EN4 comes around

>>55339800
What do you mean? Thats just me

>>55340293
Kiara is strange in general when it comes to collabs
>Complains about no spontaneous collabs
>Doesn't do Micra at JP hours and tells her fans that she wants ones with EN despite not streaming anywhere near their hours
This shit kept up for over a year, dunno how she is nowadays since I dropped her tho

>>55338648
if you cant enjoy something now out of fear that something MIGHT happen later, you're depriving yourself for no good reason

>>55340412
Are you German? only German asking for scat eater?

>>55340293
Don't know who that is sorry

>>55340379
EUbeggers BTFO

>>55340412
What about shiori?

>>55339334
Suck refined wisdom!
As expected from a irystokrat.
Thanks anon

nina's graduation was the best thing that happened to Enna

>>55339503
>>55339684
>>55339707
Not every EU country is part of NATO retards. Im a Yuro in a non-NATO member country. You guys need to do your Geography reps

>>55340412
I can't believe gen4-6 are all failed gens...

>>55340412
Bau Bau twins are Mori tier

>>55339541
that works when it's something that's tenuous at best to get mad about (Shiori following homos for example) but exclusion of a lot of the EN branch from their main Nijisanji event while simultaneously not giving them any alternative event?
That's not something you can "I don't care", because you WOULD care about that if you were a fan of someone in NijiEN.

>>55340459
But like third of her viewers are EU?

>>55340371
Rin Penrose, IdolEN's best talent and the one that will lead EU vtubing to the future
Chicken wants the glory of creating a whole branch but is jealous that the prince will overshadow her once given an ounce of holo recognition

>>55338725
>sexy women
Anime women != "Sexy women"

>pop music
>concerts
So things that are NOT exclusive to idolshit, and K-POP already btfo on us regarding this front

>video games
Lol, EU market is dead as fuck compare to even LATAM

>manga
>anime
French and Germany, so your choice between Saruei and/or Kiara/Shylily

>japanese brands and products
"Japan is the seventh largest partner for EU exports and imports of goods."

>video game streaming
>video game youtube videos
Which are dominated with normal content creators, who has perm advantage AND are not associated with the kind of stupid shits Vtuber has to deal with

>english language media
Anon, it's the opposite, you HAVE to pander to local language

>>55339663
Source your claims vague poster-kun.

>>55339611
> watch FWMC solo streams
> watch Nerissa and Bijou clips
> watch select Advent clips
> don't have to deal with any more Shiori than you have to
it's pretty easy

>>55340459
If you add up all the Europe countries and also pretend Russia is Europe it's about equal to the US and Canada. So it's not awful.

>>55340504
Gen 4 had Coco, who at least was the Superchat Queen of the world. HoloX almost had its own Gura with La+, but she dropped the ball hard.

>>55340016
Why don't you become holoEN instead, Kiara. The only reason why she wants holoEU is because she feels lonely.

>>55338792
Nerissa almost ended the world with singing according to her LoRe which already puts her above Myth except Mori.

>>55340052
>sometimes
Come on, anon. You know it's more frequent than that.

>>55340559
buy an ad

>>55339635
Might be due to some censorship. They didnt put china even though it has a big anime audience because of it.

>>55340599
>you HAVE to pander to local language
I really don't believe this

>>55340499
Post hands

>>55340599
>Anon, it's the opposite, you HAVE to pander to local language
Stop projecting burger

>>55340540
I'm counting close to 600 europeans + 100 bongs, vs ~1k north americans. That's a better ratio than I would've expected.

>>55340499
I did not notice you claimed to be from Europe. You might be from Austria or northern Switzerland.

>>55339729
> Cover gained a lot of trust over the past 3 years and so they have some level of leeway from fans when making questionable decisions
> Nijifans wrongly interpret this as "company can do no wrong" because they completely skipped the entirety of the Aloe arc, Taiwan arc and the leadup to Coco's graduation.
My god they're like literal CHILDREN...

>>55340599
>>video games
>Lol, EU market is dead as fuck compare to even LATAM
you're talking out of your ass, it's so profitable it's even worth to hire voice actors for the 5 major European languages

>>55340599
Is this bait? Or brain damage?

>>55340559
It may watch him if he is a female.

>>55340691
To be fair, this list ranks percentages, China has a fuck ton of people, even if they have more people watching anime than in the US, proportionally they will still be the minority of the population.

>>55340293
>>55340559

Here's your EU chuuba
>100 CCV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZPonLMv31Q

>>55340016
ffs Kiara. You're the one enabling these EU beggars. Don't be surprised if most of those beggars turned into anti. We are on the second phase of unity>beggar>anti pipeline.

>Kiara mentions Spanish speaking vtubers someday getting into Hololive
>people spam in chat about Haka
>no response

>>55340700
You want a timestamp as well?

>>55340899
Lmao.

>>55340899
Kek they're so fucking annoying

>>55340889
Isn't she just a burger that streams earlier?

>>55340559
TEMPISS COCKSLAVE KEK

>>55340600
>"NUMBERGODS PLEASE PLEASE SPOONFED ME"

>this retarded timeloop again
No one is fucking asking for HoloEU. All people ask for are some streams during EU prime time. Which we've seen countless times can absolutely get good numbers.
Other than that some con appearances and better merch deals would be accepted. Some Holo merch doesn't even ship to Europe.

>>55340806
>>Lol, EU market is dead as fuck compare to even LATAM
Proof that Aviel knows what he's doing
Morons here in /vt beg for EU branch but Aviel is smart enough to know where the real emerging market is, IdolES will put his company in the #2 spot right when NijiEN is in an irreversible decline

>>55340352
> lower than some HomoJPs
ooof
bold experiment but I don't think this worked out

>>55340899
Allowing a full LATAM Holo group into Hololive is NOT a good move. That region is super infested with drama. Not even joking here.

>>55340899
At least she's learning not to read those.

>>55340899
The homobeggars act like sleeper agents being activated by anything tangentially related to any of the homos

>>55340241
They are such numberfags

>>55340899
Kinda her fault for recognize them tbqh

>>55340950
What does your nationality has to do with when you stream?

>>55338397
Axel doesn't even have 3D yet.

>>55340691
Wait, anime is now that big in the US? I expect them to be lower than Mexico. Just what the hell happened?

>>55339878
This but remove the collab with males part

The main thing that a HoloEU branch would need to do to succeed would be to find the regional subset it wants to focus on, and accept the fact that building it up would not be as easy as building a North American market was.
The EU is not, sadly, a federated country with a unified language and unified market desires. It is a common marketplace, but with a wide variety of markets within it. You cannot, by and large, create something with "European Union-wide appeal." You would have to focus on specific countries, specific regions of shared interests.
And most importantly, you would have to de-emphasize English. While a plurality of EU citizens speak the Lingua France, they don't all do that, and a large segment of the countries being catered to would go unfulfilled if you went for English. English is the poison fruit at the heart of HoloEU: The easiest way to develop an audience, but also the rot which would prevent you from gaining Europe-specific success.
It would be far closer to HoloID's expansion than HoloEN's. They would have to accept the opportunity cost inherent in putting resources towards the HoloEU project, which would absolutely generate a lower ROI than any HoloEN investment, and potentially generate less than HoloID as well, due to HoloID already having a three-year long groundwork to build on in regards to investment. I imagine Cover, having spent so much of their assets into expansion of JP's support structure in the 2022-2023 period, along with the restructuring/reworking of HoloEN's internal support structure, is not currently looking to start a risky venture with low ROI in the 2023 Fiscal Year.

i wonder if the reason no holo will blatantly say
>don't being up holostars in my chat
because they fear the "backlash" and then people would be blaming her chat for having her say what she said.

>>55341013
>full LATAM Holo group
Why are you retards like this? It's always all or nothing

>>55340998
I mean Idol in effect does market itself to EU by having a fair number of EU people in their ranks that stream in that timezone, there's just no need to call it "Idol EU" or to pander to non-English languages within that market.

>>55340978
>Some
Nearly all of it

>>55340282
so chameleonschizo

>>55339568
>EU fags watch shit like shylily and Vei
False
EUchads only watch good content like IEM Cologne

>>55340379
>because twitch is draconian about language use.
Explain that a bit for me, if you could.

>>55341050
>>55341092
The same applies to you.

>>55341035
It doesn't matter, Fauna and IRyS get spammed too.

>>55339979
You know what
As someone whose "oshi" was exposed for being a literal sex offender, I can sympathize with you

>>55341050
Some of those aren't even drinks. Who puts a straw on ice cream?

SHARK STREAM

>>55340978
>Some Holo merch doesn't even ship to Europe.
https://www.tenso.com/en/login
can recommend using tenso to get around it. its a bit of a pain to set up but that way you can use the nip holoshop and get some things way earlier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_-7Fh8Nl4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_-7Fh8Nl4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_-7Fh8Nl4c

>>55341050
Alternatively start streaming at hours EU can watch and use it to start seeding a fanbase there until it grows enough for holos to specialize in it

>>55341047
My guess is that anime is bigger in Mexico, but way more people pirate it instead of viewing through legit sources, so it isn't logged

>>55334846
didn't he claim to be a VSPO fag as of late?

>>55341190
Rip FuwaMoco karaoke

>>55341190
PLEASE LEAVE NERISS ALONE

>>55341190

>>55341190
Another 6 hour stream, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>55341190
More holocure

>>55341190
GURA NO
YOU WILL BURN OUT BEFORE UPDATE

>>55341041
You said "EU chuuba" and she's not from the EU she's just an American that streams in the afternoon sometimes. Pomu and (Nina) stream in that same timeslot and no one calls them "EU vtubers".

>>55339800
Is something she mentioned in the Holocure stream

>>55340899
Holy based

>>55341050
Honestly the best you could do is have 3-4 hour streams that start in EU time and end in east coast hours.
idk how else they could serve EU while still having a paying audience.
or I guess you could completely ignore America and imitate Watame but in English. It'll catch late night SEA, a few midnight JOPs and lead into EU hours. although idk how feasible this would be long-term.
I don't think EUs are even watching EN VODs, which might unironically be the biggest signifier of interest, much more than just SC money.

>>55341190
60k box incoming?

After tomorrow Nerissa will be the only Advent member not have received a raid and the only one that has never had a stream that wasn't overlapped by 2 or more EN members.

>FauFau
>Goobs
SNOchads eating good today

>>55341190

>>55341041
A lot. We Yuros are a lot more "nationalistic" when it comes to proximity than you guys

>>55340540
>EU streamer
>Majority of her audience is in NA

>>55341173
>he doesn't know about the Ice Cream Sundae
American specialty, I guess

>>55341297
After the update she will play the Holohouse part, which seems to be an entirely different game.

EU hours will be saved once Biboo starts long streams at EU hours

>>55341348
no one likes her, its over

>>55341334
Who the fuck would watch VOD of someone they can never catch live, people barely watch VODs of people they actively follow

>>55341190
meh it won't affect Fuwamoco, is a second holocure stream so it will be more of a debuff

>>55341050
Nothing about this is correct, have you never watched esports?

>>55341297
Does your save transfer to the steam version?

>>55341008
If she is serious about HoloEU, she can turn it into her own clip channel in Deutsch. Just upload regularly. Maybe she will gain traction out of that.

>>55341190
WHAT THE FUCK DID NERISSA DO TO YOU?!?!

>>55341047
Video streaming services like Netflix, Hulu and Crunchyroll made it very easy to watch anime legally. Netflix, Hulu and Max even come with the added advantage that you can also watch other things if you don't wanna watch anime exclusively.

Does Disney+ have anime?

>>55341334
>I don't think EUs are even watching EN VODs
This is kind of true, i don't really feel any attachment to some of the chuubas that i have never caught live to bother doing that

>>55341450
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the "eSports" and "Vtuber" marketplaces have a very big difference involved in them

>>55341466
yes they do

>>55341443
Anon she played Holocure like 3 times prior to yesterday.

>>55341141
From what I understand you are responsible for everything your chat says on twitch. If someone spams nigger you have to ban them or you can take a hit. If you stream in two languages, your chat will be in two languages, which means you need double the moderation team. You *can* do it, it's just a chore so most people simply prohibit chatting in a 2nd language.

>>55341190
Blue girl giving new blue woman trial by fire, for the sake of strengthening the box

>>55341451
Anon...
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame/status/1656778815102914560

>>55341467
Be the retard that got the Gura Timeslot for her first week

>>55341466
>Spoiler
yes

>>55341348
>THE STRONGEST
RAVENCROFT Tsu-TSUYOI!!!!

>>55341467
Exist

>>55341190
Yeah pretty sure Gura is doing it on purpose now. I mean finally she's streaming. But still, it's obvious what she's doing.

>>55341467
Gura just streams in her usual slot, if Nerissa decides to overlap, it's her own funeral.

>>55341538
Solid game with a solid launch

>>55341190
Narissa's asshole is gonna be worn out by the end of the week.

>>55341190
>Fuwamoco's first karaoke is tonight?
>Better stream over them lol

>>55341538
nice

>>55341050
That makes sense. Cover's focus is probably just on expanding the NA marketshare at this point. Any plans about an European push are probably 5+ years away.

>>55341538
Will the non steam version be available still?

>>55341585
They likely didn't choose the timeslots, it was probably predetermined by the group or management. Gura had like 7 streams in all of July and now since the debut she will have 4 in less than one week, each only on days that Nerissa starts at 8EST.

I'm unironically starting to think Towa is a male whenever I see her images /here...

>>55340899
It would be a big mistake. Most spanish speakers are ironic anime enjoyers.
Unlike SEA where there's a wealth gap, in South America there isn't much of a wealth gap because everyone is equally miserable thanks to socialism, so most of LATAM is too poor to afford superchats, let alone expensive merch with expensive shipping.

60K box confirmed

>>55341568
Should she change her timeslot?

>>55340559
>Rin Penrose, IdolEN's best talent and the one that will lead EU vtubing to the future
How when they are clearly pivoting to Latam?

>>55341190
> last time we had this many Gura streams in a 30 day period was 2022 October (9 months ago)
We're so fucking back bros

>>55341024
Homos are going to be terminated. She's just happy and motivated now

>>55341190
Yup, she's doing it on purpose and specifically targeting the new girls

>>55341555
Nerissa kinda reminds me of Albedo.

>>55341509
retard the other holocure streams had huge gaps between them, playing it one stream after the other won't make the numbers get better 15k peak at best

https://twitter.com/holocuredev/status/1687640182735122432

>>55341644
I mean, they could do it.
They could do it right now, even.
It's just, it would be like fucking HoloID's first two years. Essentially throwing them to the wolves and going
>TEST IT OUT, WE'LL THROW YOU SOME SUPPORT PACKAGES FROM TIME TO TIME, SEEYA
The infrastructure to bring them up to the other branch levels would just not happen for a while.

>>55341708
no, she should not stream so advent can continue to get their 45K box that they get when she does stream... wait a second...

>>55341708
She won't. It's either she streams at that time or she won't stream at all. Honestly better this way really. Finally streaming instead of ghosting everyone.

>>55341662
She has been using this timeslot since the start

>>55341440
I could never catch Mythbreakers live, so I always watched the VODs.
That's what you do when the actual content is interesting, and not when you're just there to see if your comment or SC gets read.

gura streaming is unironically kaela's fault

>>55341467
All those switching Oshi "Jokes" made her decide to tease Nerissa a bit. It's just Jork.

>>55341662
Gura streamed at 8 PM EST for all of her 3 years in Hololive, come the fuck on.

>>55341803
Seems like you didn't read what I said.

>>55341585
A slot she used how many times, 13 times in 6 months? She'0s clearly trying to not lose viewers to the advent girls by stopping chumbuds from checking them

>>55341224
>>55335046