/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55233336
Vesper and all Tempiss are the poison of HoloEN

According to /here:
>Being Male
>Interacting with female
That's literally all it takes to be considered bad or a 'homo' somehow.

>>55233772
Well and that's what I'm genuinely curious about. If he is actually deserving of a suspension or if his biggest crime is collabing with a girl

the hate for tempus feels so ridiculously forced
/vt/ was pretty fond of Vesper but everything seemed to fall apart both here and on reddit after a couple collabs and now Vesper's seen as the Holostars equivalent of Luca? It's bizarre

Ignore what the losers say, Tempus is cool as hell. They're fun to watch, and all bring their own fun.

>>55233931
I mean, did you fall asleep from October 2022 to July 2023? You didn't notice any events in Vesper's career that might have further damaged his rep?

>>55233336
He’s a man infiltrating a female-dominated work space, of course he’s a bad guy

>>55234107
Sister trying to larp as a newfag, pls anderstand.

His Holocrime is
-Interacting with Bae (known Holostar fan)
-Participating in the infamous DbD stream where Kronii laughed louder than usual
Their volume setting was shit and Kronii sounded louder than usual
-Participating in a skit where he would "fix" Kronii's obsession with Subways
-Being part of the Squad™ (aka the group of HoloPro EN vtuber that will easily get baits /here/)
-Tell unicorns that he'll fuck their oshi next because they were annoying little shits in his chat
-Raiding Kiara because there was no one else to raid
Kiara thanked Vesper normally and IMO it's better to keep the viewers in the HoloPro ecosystem than sending them to Nijisanji or smaller corpo

>>55233772
"Homo" is an abbreviation of "Homostars", which is just what people largely decided to call Holostars /here/ because 1. it avoids confusion with "holos" and 2. it insinuates that any man watching them must be gay. It's a general term, not just for bad talents.

>>55233931
It was him being made accessory to Mori's attempts to "own the incels" that truly drew the ire towards him. If there wasn't the bad will from that people would say that calling Jap boomers niggers is based.

>>55234311 (me)
Accomplice was probably a better word than accessory

>>55233892
Are you fucking retarded? Why would he get suspended for collabing with a holo?

It's because he called his manager a nigger

>>55233336
cool guy but is lazy and a liar

>>55234107
This thread is full of women right now, they won't admit that this dude is a sex pest menhera who has frequent temper tantrums.

>>55234225
>Getting suspended for actual, unironic internal misconduct, first in HoloEN history
>Having the bizarre "Japan voyage"/spear breakdown over the course of a month and a half or so, destroying his relationship with his colleagues
>Skipping out on collabs and events with his genmates and new kouhai because of claimed emotional fatigue, but happily collabing totally normally with women in the same time period
>Now suspended again (or "activities stopped", whatever) for some undisclosed reason
>All of this within like 11 months of debut, literally never even made it to his first anniversary
Yeah the dude is just totally stable and normal, why do fans think poorly of him????????

>>55233336
>Ghosted his half anniversary
>Ghosted the first full Tempus collab
>Has an even worse mentality than Mori regarding haters
>The fucking first and only member under EN management to get suspended
He fucking sucks and should graduate

>>55233336
he's terminated for a reason kek

Because he's more menhera than the female talents and no one wants that from a male vtuber

>>55234495
he isn't normal...

>>55234428
I didn't mean to imply that's why he got suspended I more meant I was curious if he deserved the amount of people cheering for his suspension

>>55233336
Yeah, he's fine. His supposed rapsheet is a list of wild headcanons and unsubstantiated nothingburgers. Granted IDK if wholesome's the right word, he certainly can be but clearly hides his true powerlevel. Also he's a bit schizo which tends to feed rrats and frustrate threadreaders. I think he's just had the most co-ed collabs, so became the posterboy for Tempus hate.
>>55233892
Okay see that's what I mean; we don;t know shit about his suspension. But he has legit mental health issues and got suspended last time for "losing his temper" at a Holo employee, which leads to endless speculation as to how bad he might actually be.

>>55234107
The Kiara raid was really shitty but opinion of them soured way before that

>>55234723
The Kiara raid is nothing and if that's all he had ever done, most people wouldn't even dislike him. That was like the very last tiny little provocation after a solid year of shitshow.

>>55234311
>>55234428
Wait what really? Source on this?

>>55234781
Raiding Kiara is nothing. Telling the people that would get mad about it to go fuck themselves certainly isn't nothing.

>>55234823
Headcanon. But he did say that he had anger management problem.

>>55233336
>you live and die by your solo content
>ignores his genmates and new coworkers, but ybdbd's collabs with Kronii and Mori
>ruins tempus chemistry
He's a piece of shit and I'm glad he's getting terminated soon

>why do people hate this guy he's fine to me
>i don't watch him btw
every time

>>55234495
>>Getting suspended for actual, unironic internal misconduct, first in HoloEN history
True, but do you REALLY want to side with management in a talent vs management issue?
>>Having the bizarre "Japan voyage"/spear breakdown over the course of a month and a half or so, destroying his relationship with his colleagues
>destroying his relationship with his colleagues
Nice fanfiction
>>Skipping out on collabs and events with his genmates and new kouhai because of claimed emotional fatigue, but happily collabing totally normally with women in the same time period
That’s the same point as the one above. Why do you need too bullet points for the same events.
>>Now suspended again (or "activities stopped", whatever) for some undisclosed reason
And Magni too? Unless you know something we don’t, there is no reason to believe that it’s Vesper’s fault specifically.

>>55234723
>The Kiara raid was really shitty
Fuck off, retard. I'm so tired of this schizo roleplay.

>>55233336
Why do you think a lot of Hololive member ignore them???
Most of the JP didnt even know they exist

The frank truth is the dude has had a career's worth of drama in one single year and fans aren't predisposed to like him anyway because he was at the forefront of cultural changes in "HoloProEN" (which are now stalled and probably dead).
Anyone who is surprised some fans might be glad when he's gone are just being unempathetic and can't consider the feelings and positions of others. It's fine to not agree, but it's silly to pretend you can't even comprehend.

>>55233336
I like him. He destroys gachikois

>>55234848
Telling retards to go f themselves isn’t neutral. It’s based.

>>55233336
Sisters seethe to this day because Kronii and Ame are retarded. That's literally all

i hate males because /vt( hates males

>>55235056
Doing things to piss off people that support your colleagues is not based

>>55233336
Hate is a big word, but is quite obvious he is a problematic fellow, other than Magni you don’t see the other homos generating that much drama, two suspensions before his first anniversary is quite telling, feel sorry for Axel and Altare that will have to deal with the aftermath of their gemmates drama

the patrol caught him and magni having gay sex in a park and you know it's strictly prohibited in japan. they both got thrown into jail for few days and suspended from the job

>>55234958
yeah I'm sure its just a coincidence that there was no suspensions in holo EN for 3 years until magni and vesper

He's a nice bloke, unicorns hate him because he commits the atrocious crime of playing video games with women.

>>55235068
Don't try to leave Mori out of this

>>55234225
His holo crimes is being menhera fagg that cant thinkf of his genmates. And gettieng 2 times suspended giving more reasons to "hate" tempiss

>>55234958
>True, but do you REALLY want to side with management in a talent vs management issue?
Not necessarily, but I also would generally prefer not to have someone so unstable they can't be civil in a professional context in the same group and company as my oshi.
I myself have been working for most of a decade and I have never gotten into trouble at work, not even once. It's easy.

>>55235201
this is true im the patrol

>>55234848
Yeah actually that was a bad move on his part.
Those things aren't "people" and don't warrant a second of consideration.

Hes not bad at all the hate comes 99.99% of the simple fact he collabed with the girls. So this anti of him comes based on pure jealousy.

Hell you dont even hear so much anti from other holostars because they dont collab that much with hololive or none at all but since Vesper is the most recurrent hololive collaber and the girls honestly appreciate him unicorns started to seethe and call him this and that.

So dont worry about it all this holostar hate comes from 4chan you barely ever gonna see this outside here because:
1. If they pull shit like this they get ratiod like no tommorrow.
2. They can't spread missinformation like here.
3. They can't answer their own threads. We all know in 4chan you can made a whole thread by youreself and nobody can tell since all its anonymus.
4. They are scared of the backslash they are gonna get since they know people wont support them.

>>55233336
>gets into hololive
>part of the branch yagoo seems to legitimately like
>act like a retard

>>55235358
Despite the screeching monkeys there are people who genuinely just prefer their oshi not interact with men and forcing that while expressing your intent to anger them is a shitty thing to do.

>cool, old vampire design
>get a whiny faggot with mental issues constantly lying about his life

>>55235358
Just like him

>>55235424
>ratiod
>missinformation
>anonymus
>numbering points

>>55234957
I never said he was fine I was just curious how he went from being wholesome grandpa to graduate hopeful

>>55235250
Ame and Kronii both had meltdowns involving tempus that anons still seethe about to this day. Mori hasn't (surprisingly). The closest thing is her getting the collab ban shortened but anons seethe at management for that instead of her

>>55235548
I've seen this lying thing twice now what exactly is he known for lying for

>>55235642
Nothing. Its all made up. If you read in /vt/ never take it seriously

>>55235592
Indeed, early on he seemed to be so chill, sad he ended up being a menhera

>>55233336
Honestly more than anything I'm just puzzled by wtf is happening with the suspension. Its definitely the weirdest thing thats happened in the EN side.

>>55234723
>The Kiara raid was really shitty
It's up to the channel owner
to allow specific people
to raid them
you cannot raid
without their permission

I said it nice and slow for you since you seem to have mental deficiencies and difficulty understanding the situation.

>>55235642
/vt/ claims he makes up half of his stories but im starting to believe him considering hes the only nigga in all of hololive to be suspended TWICE

>>55235627
Mori already had everyone who could possibly be mad at her mad at her.

>>55235424
Kek, he got kicked out from /mans/ once, stop deluding yourself fag. He is equaly hated from hololive and holostars fan.

>>55235250
>>55235627
Anyone with a shred of backbone abandoned Mori as a fan long ago. There's no one left in her fanbase to feel affronted or betrayed at anything she does anymore.
t. former Deadbeat

>>55234958
>And Magni too? Unless you know something we don’t, there is no reason to believe that it’s Vesper’s fault specifically
Look at this homosis retard, she not knowing what happen in the last few day. I'll will give you a hint falseeyed

>>55233336
>>55233336
He definately isn't flawless, but all hate comes pretty much either from people who never really watch Tempus at all or fans of other Tempus members (i to extent can understand the second ones, but that's not really changing they're kinda just bitter).
If you put aside sexpest/collab with holos/raid kiara (last one is still funny to me, because there is almost zero mentions that he already raided her before, but it was 5 minutes before the stream, but all this dramafaggots watched clip took the "It can piss of some faggots, i don't care" bait and ran with it) I would say his main problem that he often opens his mouth before thinking twice (that leads either to promises that he can't do or fighting haters back) or lack of communication from time to time. Despite that I'm literally watching him since day 1 and he gave me zero reasons to drop him.

>>55235642
You really think someone who curls up into a ball when he receives the slightest emotional push would experience so much WACKY shit?

>>55235733
You're the one commenting without knowing what you're talking about. Kiara has had "anyone" raids on for quite a while. You wouldn't know, you probably have never watched her.

>>55235201
Don't worry sis, i will larp with you after they got terminated.

>>55235880
Explain the suspensions then? Management also hates him without a reason?

>>55235880
>he gave me zero reasons to drop him
he's gonna give you a good one when holo reveals his termination kek

>>55235460
She didn't interact with him.
IIRC he didn't even write anything in her chat. He literally just gave her a CCV boost by existing.
This is exactly what I mean. It was so very, VERY many layers away from the usual screeching monkey cringe that I can't even take pretending to be offended by it seriously. It's beyond parody.

At least Vesper's problems are more of self contained and only hurt him. On the other hand Fagni is trying to bring twitch e-celeb cancer into the holobox which imo is far worse. Thank God his fans threw a shit fit after he collabed with daph and he toned that shit down.

>>55234723
Shitty to who? Kiara? No she was super happy actually. The fanbase? No the reaction was super positive. Only unicorns like you think it was bad because you by some deranged reason or mental damage thinks that Being nice=having sex. If you taked youre mind out of the gutter for 5 min for once in your life you would realize how stupid you people sound

>>55235733
Retard the issue isn't the raid itself. The issue is that the absolute scum he is, realised it will cause kiara trouble, and that motivated him. And not only that, he even was clear about it. Either shut the fuck up or do a little mention ofthe rules, or don't do it. It was very revelating of his character if it wasn't obvious already.

>>55235987
>Vesper's problems are more of self contained and only hurt him
If you don't count the rest of tempus as other people, I guess

>>55235817
Elaborate, please.

>>55233931
I liked his streams but kinda stopped watching while he was in Japan. There were some streams like the burger tasting stream that should be simple and interesting but somehow he made them really weird and boring.

>>55235987
Vesper affects the rest of his gen.

>>55235883
....maybe.
I'm not the most emotionally stable person myself honestly but the amount of whacky shit I've experienced makes my friends tell me they're pretty sure I'm a main character in someone's story cuz it just happens so often that what I don't think of as a big deal they consider to be really bizarre

>>55235424
go on and generalize surely that will make people like him and his fanbase more.

What missinformation? He got suspended for problems with management didnt he?

Twitter backlash lmao
Sure only one person dislkies vesper.
Ratiod lmao
Go back to your ecochamber, tell those peoples that ratio unicorns to watch tempus oh wait they wont do it because too much work right?

>Lies about everything, makes up his entire life
>Extremely spiteful, towards management, his own gen and also random trolls in chat
>Goes out of his way to piss off everybody from all sides at once
>Has proven himself to be unstable in more ways than one
>Setting a new suspension time record
I don't give a shit about the Kronii collabs or that one Kiara raid, he single-handedly ruined public opinion of tempus and male vtubers in general and for that he deserves all the hatred that comes his way.

I bet we'll never see a single image of that spear he supposedly bought.

>>55236049
Ho please, during his mehera arc ghosting every other stars people started to calll out his comportment and the vestfag just left. Only to come back the tail between their leg with no shame later. Worst part is that this episode ruined tempiss unity who was pretty much their only selling point.

>>55233336
I know this is a bait thread but if you want an actual answer go ask /mans/ I guess

>>55236208
It actually wasn't and while I could have asked /mans/ I wanted a more balanced opinion

>>55235642
Oh it was some fucking schedule conflict bullshit, motherfuckers don't know dick about what "kayfabe" actually means.

>>55233931
Mental instability can arguably be endearing when a girl has it. It's just fucking sad when it's a dude.

>>55236039
I don't see why you would.

>>55235790
There's also that as well. Being hated is Mori's natural state for a few years as opposed to the 180 in /here/ opinion Ame and Kronii both saw

>>55236025
What.
Fucking.
Trouble.

Sister shitposts /here/ do not count.

>>55234225
>-Tell unicorns that he'll fuck their oshi next because they were annoying little shits in his chat
proof or it didn't happen

>>55235961
He said himself - bad temper, but i never had thought "He's probably a bad person" when i watched his streams, so why I should care that he screamed at manager or some shit, maybe he had a reason for it, maybe not.

>>55236025
This, he is just shitty person, with "le hecking based" mask

Hes just lazy and shitty in general. If my Fuji friends that watch tempiss hate him and call him the New Jersey vampire for how lazy he is.

>>55235424
>sister incapable of finding fault on themselves or vesper
This feel like twittard all over again. You a confirmed a faggot for memoryhole this, vesper got kick out of /mans/ for about a month for missing their 6 months anniversary. So act more retarded pls, because that all you do.

>>55235627
Did Ame have a meltdown or her fans? It seems her fans (or whatever portion of them) cared about it way more than she did.

>>55235007
>Most of the JP didnt even know
So what's the problem if even Holos don't acknowledge him?

>>55236389
No one has ever posted a clip of this guy saying anything I'm starting to think he's some kind of collective hallucination

>>55235843
Lol they don't know, it funny how nobody caught it.

>>55236469
so what you're saying is he never said it

>>55236179
The damage Vesper and Magni did to the EN stars is likely unfixable by now, I kind of wish the new boys were their own thing instead of a Tempus expansion, but well maybe management had clairvoyance and wanted to avoid a 2 man gen

>>55236025
Within 5 minutes of the raid happening there were catalog threads here whining about even though no one in the actual stream gave a shit. Sounds like it's just you retards looking for reasons to seethe.

>>55236129
Twitter is not good but reality is it has x1000 times more impact over the company than this dumpster. Nobody even awknowledge this site even exist unless they are forced to metion it. This is only a place to make fun of unicorns and rrat for fun reality is that it has no impact over cover.

>>55236019
>Shitty to who? Kiara? No she was super happy actually.
Dude no please do not engage they'll start an entire psychoanalytic dissertation on how she was clearly faking it.

>>55233931
people are very serious about their CGDCT environment so it doesn't become another niji/twitch

>>55236539
They'll just fold the remaining homos together like IRyS was folded into Council after Sana's graduation.

>>55236557
I know and your right. They wouldn't accept any fact even if it where slapped in their face.

>>55236179
Do not post my picture.

>>55233336
He is the poster boy for Tempus at this point, so that is why he gets all the hate.
He has never pressured anyone to collab with him that didn't want to and has even told his viewers not to be collab beggers.

Honestly for a male you can't get any better.

>>55236420
Also the fucking worst is that this attitude ended up tainting the holostars fanbase and now most of them are just acting like piece of shit while pretending it's based, and they are pissing off people all around. They act like fucking troons it's unbeliveable that cover didn't can the whole branch already. The tempiss fanbase attitude is at this point only negative for cover. no wonder most of advent don't even recognise tempiss existence; from JP gen 3 to ID3 cover "pandered" to "unicorn and incels" and got 0 fucking trouble. One single year of pandering to fag and see the result.

>>55236469
>>55236389
You won't get proof because it never happened. A containment breaker asked who he'd collab with next and Vesper responded with "your oshi"

>>55236244
Good on you, OP.
I advise escaping this hell and never looking back.

>>55236547
Are you this retarded? obviously people will seethe if you ask them to. Especialy with his reputation fo being a pure shit person already etablished long before.

>>55236539
I doubt why they even hire LGBT maggot like Magni in the first place

>>55236025
And how it caused trouble to her? Did cover complain? Ofc not they aren't encouraging segregations. Did KFP in general berate her? Not at all i was in that stream they where very welcoming. Outside /vt/ a place that doesnt matter where exactly she got in trouble?

>>55236458
She said "improve yourselves".
She's the antichrist.

>yup. expert tempus homologist here. he unironically contributed a lot to the sad state tempus is in right now. fucked everything over when they were doing their best and killed a lot of the hype. it's important to realize a lot of the july to december traction around tempus was based on unity, the tempura was the most unity driven fanbase in holopro. but his suspension, him not collabing with anyone for a while (which also lead to the vesper-altare hate rrats), and missing many important collabs like the half ani and first vg+hq collab really killed a lot of the traction.
>although i would argue vg's debut also led to a lot of ruin in the long run because most tempura who watched every tempus member understood they wouldn't be able to keep up with everything and either slowly left or sticked to 1-3 members. full collabs also became harder to organize and that also hurt the idea of full unity. bettel should have debuted with hq and the rest of vg should have been cut off.

All of this is basically over and this entire thread is ruminating about a saga that seems like it's about to hit it's epilogue.

>>55236660
I'm speaking from experience kek its legitimately what happened at the time.

>>55236019
this is the reason why sisters and homo faggots are so fucking hated actually. Just go kill yourself if you don't want to understand the issue. Fucking femcel retard

>>55236955
>bettel should have debuted with hq and the rest of vg should have been cut off.
That's... not an unreasonable take actually. Flayon's fun but not quite a dealbreaker.

>excessive kronii collabs
>YBDBD incidents (collabing with girls while claiming he's too "socially drained" to collab with his genmates) marked him as an obvious sex pest horndog
>Mori-level obsession with "owning da haterz" (just acts more aloof about it)
>speedrunning suspension gave everyone the fuel to justify every negative rrat about him because "he's clearly a problem"
>menhera japan arc got him hated by a lot of tempiss fujos for ruining the "unity" and being a cunt to his genmate (vesper fans literally fled from /MANS/ and made their own split for the time due to everyone shitting on him)

On a side note he's also a pathological liar and all his zatsu stories are fiction to fleece his retarded self-inserter incel fans. But to be honest that's not the reason anyone here hates him (except me).

>>55235883
Yes actually. In fact, experiencing a bunch wacky shit could be how someone gets emotionally unstable like this in the first place.

>>55237247
Because... they're normal?

>>55237307
Vesper is the real manifestation of the strawman that everybody said StarsEN members would turn out to be

>>55233931
People expected Vesper to be some solo streamer Chad "You live and die by your solo content" that plays /v/ approved games

>>55233336
Yes he's black he's a drug addict a drunk a compulsive liar and a sex pest.

>>55237247
>this is the reason why sisters and homo faggots are so fucking hated actually.
>asking for an explanation
roru

>>55235627
Be talked down to fans pretty condescendingly. Her fans were being retarded to her credit however.

>>55235642
>pretends to be an IT nerd who dumpster dives for hard drives
>gets completely exposed as clueless in his pc building stream
>pretends to have bought fishing gear only to realize it was illegal to fish in japan
>it literally isn't illegal
>pretends to eat moldy burgers and goes "ahhh, I'm feeling it" as if he's actually experiencing instant food poisoning
>later completely backpedals and says they were't really expired but "kind of" expired and he didn't have actual food poisoning (but still tummy hort, right??)
>pretends to have crippling social anxiety that prevents him from collabing (somehow this only happens half a year in though)
>is completely fine collabing with girls (who are his senpais rather than peers) cracking jokes constantly and belly laughing
>pretends to have been in an archery club just because he read Fate/Shit
>pretends to have bought a spear, yet we've never seen it
>coincidentally has had more "crazy happenings" and "strange encounters" in his life than every single story-telling subreddit combined
>"by the way have i told you yet about the 76th time I got stabbed by an asylum escapee at the gas station at midnight"

>>55233980
Post tits or gtfo

>>55237307
I like the rrat that he was pretending to be Gura to get game permissions

>>55234958
>True, but do you REALLY want to side with management in a talent vs management issue?
If he was really stupid with management, yes i would side with management

>>55237307
See he has legitimate reasons to be hated. No one really gives a shit about the rest of tempiss. But he is so rude, reckless, irresponsible, and it hurts his genmates, fans, and all of hololive as a result.

>>55233336
He was alright, a lot of people here claimed he brought drama to HoloEN but he only really did if you considered men and women interacting drama by default. His worst aspect was just being a menhara for the most part, if I remember correctly he was off his meds when he got suspended the first time for snapping at his manager. I don’t really know what to make of his current absence, maybe he got suspended again but I don’t know why they wouldn’t just say it like last time.

>>55233336
I know people are quick to accuse Vesper defenders of being femanons, but does Vesper even really have female fans? His audience strikes me as mostly male

>>55237721
His audience is mostly boomer males like himself

>>55236955
Has vesper ever collabed or engaged with tempus2?

>>55237307
nice headcanon

>>55237835
Yeah after months of avoiding them he finally had his stupid "interview" series

>>55237247
Aww did i touch a nerve? Well i don't mind being hated by boys like you. In fact i don't even hate you just feel a bit of pity.

>>55236389
There was absolutely a moment in one of the streams not long after the DBD stream that someone asked him whose oshi he was going to collab with next and he said "Yours" in a sneering sort of way that you know he was trying to bait a reaction out of people.

>>55237885
What a piece of shit. He's worse than Gura.

>>55237835
He dedicated 4 streams to interviewing each of them individually lemao.
And has done the usual collabs since.

>>55237721
Yes he does. From what ive seen usually fat girls.

>>55237406
Damn sounds like a homie

>>55236936
They WERENT encouraging segregation. Get a hint that it changed a lot recently. Also once again retard. If you suspect you will cause trouble, what he did, you don't do it. If you do it anyway you are already a bad person, but if you also vocalise that you don't give a fuck, well you are a very bad person. If you are lucky enought so the trouble isn't here (there were) it doesn't change you had malicious intention. To put an exemple for the brain damaged faggot you are it's like i put one bullet in a revolver, told you that there is one chance in 6 i kill you when i'm going to do what i'm going to do then press the revolver on your head and press the trigger. Then you survive and here i said : see i'm not a bad person i didn't kill you in the end". You are trying to justify this kind of attitude. So fuck off retard. He probably will get out with a no contract renewal shit but he should have been terminated in a way that would make zaion fell lucky about her own.

>>55236745
Based lol

>>55237906
It's was way later than DBD (like late winter/early spring) during New Vegas playthrough. And if you see the moment, you can clearly see that he just open mouth without thinking (probably was irritated, because at that time contaiment breakers were pretty often in his chat with YBDD spamming etc)

>>55233336
He and Magni are such genuine pieces of shit that it makes me like Axel and Regis because of how fucking bad I feel for them. They seem to just do their best and not touch Hololive.

>>55237247
Ah yes, because clearly your post is very helpful and informative and helps everyone understand. Problem solved, good job.

>>55235978
It has nothing to do with him doing that action to Kiara.

It was him vocalizing "Yeah, I'm going to do this and it might make some people mad, and those people can stay mad" right beforehand that was shitty behavior on his end right before saying "be on your best behavior, Vesties." People might have memed a bit about it if he just raided her without the additional commentary, but people would have long moved on if it wasn't for the fact he deliberately made his intention to piss off some group of people known to everyone watching that was an ass move, because needlessly antagonizing people sure does help everyone in the long run.

>>55237979
Well by that logic all vtuber fans are fat, unemployed, incel losers who always sleep with a dirty dakimura (specially in some areas) and cant have a normal life.

>>55238167
Do you gonna give a view or...?

>>55238167
I need context about the "the cause" thing since I don't want to dislike someone based on misrepresented information.

>>55238126
>what he did, you don't do it. If you do it anyway you are already a bad person
Seek professional psychiatric aide, sir.

>>55238126
TL: "We don't know if something happened we are just assuming it and getting mad about it"

>>55234958
>True, but do you REALLY want to side with management in a talent vs management issue?
fair enough but he himself admitted he has anger problems in his return stream and said things he shouldn't have
>Nice fanfiction
again, fair enough. the rrats despite having basis in reality are still rrats.
>That’s the same point as the one above. Why do you need too bullet points for the same events.
this is how i know you're a revisionist sister, what a retarded way to deflect. as an ex-homo watcher myself, i very clearly remember how vesper skipping the half anni and the first vg hq collabs and not collabing with the boys in general tore apart the community. many people in /mans/ (mostly yume altventurers) shit talked vesper, and vesties coped by claiming how vesper had the highest numbers and the others boys were just bringing him down, how he was the true straightbro that was against fujo content (big lol considering his new model now). why do you think so many altare hates vesper and vice versa rrats popped up? these are facts, not fanfiction.
trying to argue this point is also complete rrats and fanfic by putting it in the same boat as the second point is peak nijinigger behaviour, kill yourself immediately. you probably don't even know there was a vesper split thread for a while. /tea/ was always a shit show though
>And Magni too? Unless you know something we don’t, there is no reason to believe that it’s Vesper’s fault specifically.
it puts a bad light on magni too, anon never claimed otherwise or that it was vesper's fault specifically. you're just willfully retarded.

>>55238230
I watch them occasionally, yes. They’re fine. Regis’s recent debut rewatch turned into a surprise 3D chibi model debut which was quite fun.

just terminate these homofags already. all this edging is making my balls hurt, I'm ready to cum

>>55238608
Are you fan of orgasm denial, anon?

>>55235880
Same, for better and worse the man is 'tismtastic.hopefully that doesn't stop him from coming back, I miss my crazy vtuber uncle

>>55238608
Sisters wants this.

>>55237472
Woah, that sounds great! Who cares if it’s true or not, if he’s that capable of making up random bullshit to entertain viewers I should probably watch him more, legitimately sounds like good entertainment

>>55238204
>not letting anti’s dictate who he decides to interact with
I dunno sounds pretty cool to me
>people would have long moved on
Big doubt, people still bitch about “the cause” which was basically the biggest nothingburger in existence

>>55238608
Just stop watching them problem solved. Its not like you're more likeable than them. Dont like them? Get lost and do something while someone you like streams.

>>55238295
>>55238309
Sister defence force with room temperature IQ, as expected. Should you go on leddit and cry about downvote instead? or better watch a st... ho sorry yes the suspenssion that you don'twant to call a suspension.

>>55237472
>gets exposed as clueless in his pc building stream
Do you have any details? Does it have anything to do with how Magni's hard drive got bent when it was inserted?

>>55233931
>/vt/ was pretty fond of Vesper
Maybe in your astroturfed dimension

>>55238143
>YBDD spamming
That's litrally 1 guy'd and this retard didnt even just blocked him and move on

>>55238167
Nothing ever can make me like Regis and his whisper voice.

>>55238724
>>55238792
Damn, can’t believe the sisters both love AND hate Vesper AND want him terminated AND are sure he’s coming back

>>55238730
Honestly 95% of VTubers make up stories of their lifes thats literally their job and that includes hololive. They are in a fictional character they have no obligation to share their real life neither are prohibited to make anything up as long it doesnt make a mess later on.

>>55233980
>they are all fun to watch
>*doesn't watch them*

>>55233336
He got suspended twice, fucked up every milestone celebration tempus had and also inexplicably dodged multiple full collabs because he didn't have his "meds". He's a highschool dropout and also had problems with his coworkers at his last job. So he's just not cut out to be in a major corpo, or any at all.

>>55238805
that and he also said he only knows the old stuff. I'm assuming he just watches and learn from his buddy who knows how to actually build a pc.

>>55237948
>usual collabs since
Kronii and whori?

>>55238699
He express quite a few times that he really enjoys streaming, so even if we unfortunately see one day a sticky about termination/graduation and sea of gloating niggers in the catalog, he wouldn't give up streaming and return to PL

>>55238784
lol I already don't watch them. it just makes me happy watching people I don't like suffer on the internet. total homofag death

>>55238247

When there was controversy about the game Hogwars Legacy and trannies harrased stramers that played it, Regis Altare from Holostars EN said that he would not play it to "support the cause", eg. that he propagated the LGBTQAI++ agenda - and stood behind the organised harrasment against vtubers that played the game.

I'm so happy that Omega/Holostars are now in the dustbin of 3view history

>>55238848
I remember them occuring on streams at least 3-4 times, don't remember if it was the same nigga or not, and there were quite a lot of contaiment breakers in VODs comments

>>55238204
We're remembering the clip differently, anon. He raided Kiara because it was the obvious logical thing to do. The quip was an afterthought, not the motivating factor.
At most, he's at fault for being SO MENHARA that he actually had any reservations in the first place.

>>55239041
That says more about you than about them honestly. You're admiting you're a scumbag and you're proud of it it makes you feel edgy got it.

He kinda betrayed his fans and holostars by acting like a menhera
I thought he was happy to be here but it's not the first time he disappears
You'd think an (old) man would behave better than some retarded girls

>>55239191
Nice revionism. It was dumb of him to say, but the entire reason that he didn’t want to play it was BECAUSE people who were playing it were getting harassed by Twitter hate mobs. He went in depth about how he wanted to play the game, too.

>>55235165
You sound like a pussy

>>55238792
You need help and aren't worth the free time or effort of anyone here.
Take it or leave it.

>>55239336
Make it make sense

>>55239336
Fine but him running his mouth made cover derail bae plans she obviously wanted to play the game even the orange homo did.

>>55238957
Yeah there's no way to defend this, tempiss fans are delusional
It's so funny to think vesper ended up being the worst
I honestly feel bad for the other 2 who are still streaming

I've been through this shit before

>>55239242
sir why are you throwing the rod in

>>55233336
i dont care about homos but his 2.0 looks good, just the skin tone looks off

>>55239015
I'm hoping when he gets shit canned he goes scorched earth and exposes all of covers inner secrets

>>55238247
He talked about streamers getting hate for expressing interest in wizard game and that, while he also wants to play it, he gets enough of hate as is so he won't. After that he said "gotta support the cause." It's up to interpretation what he meant.
https://www.youtube.com/live/deIu9IyuZRI?feature=share&t=4873

>>55233336
He's the only homo I can stand, all the others either filter me through their voice, or through their prettyboy model. He's charismatic and fun to listen to, but yeah he's probably not coming back kek
I don't get why Cover is being so retarded about their male branch, right now they're trying to cater to sisters through uwu twink models, but at the same time they're having them play shit like WOW or Apex that most women just have no fucking interest in. They should either go 100% on the women audience and get pretty boys that sing, dance, draw and only play womancore games like Animal Crossing and Sims, or go 100% for a male audience, use less pretty models (let a guy be a fucked up looking orc, or a fat viking or some shit like that) and let them be sweatlords that play shooters competitively, speedrun Monster Hunter , or do 11 hour Factorio streams and other autistic shit.
Anyways, thanks for reading my homo management post.

>>55239464
>Obviously
How so? Holostars JP played plenty of it. It’s more likely that EN management didn’t want the EN streamers to play it due to the general controversy.

>>55239242
lol yeah, me hating internet streamers and wishing they get fired is so horrible. you act like I just confessed to murder or something

>>55237247
>Employee supports other employee
>/vt/ has a meltdown because they can't fathom somebody supportive of someone else despite them never interacting
How DARE he sisses

>>55239502
Sisters have to resort to some incel argument blah blah bs when the truth is Vesper is a piece of shit to his genmates and has failed to respect their time and effort by failing to show up to their planned collabs. Not to mention the multiple suspensions. Or that he was too socially drained at one point to collab with his “bros” but then very quickly regained that energy to collab with the Holo girls. He only has himself to blame for any negativity his way. Disingenuous faggot he is.

>>55239752
Sisters hate Vesper for ruining Tempus unity, sister.

>>55233336
Total homo death

>>55234107
The only event was calling management a bunch of incompetent niggers.
And look! We got EN3 so there was self-reflection afterwards.
If anything you should be grateful to Vesper.

>>55237906
I saw that very clip a few hours ago and there was no sneering. He delivered it deadpan. Then started cracking up. Because it's a joke.
Dark!Vesper only exists in your head.

>>55239191
>>55239336
The funniest thing about that line is that mere seconds ago he was going on about he was the most hated person in holopro despite there being almost no material on him (the ame duet and kronii laughing thing had died down by then and were mostly the girl's fault) and being mostly ignored by this board at that point. With this one line he proceeded to give the shitposters a phrase to repeat on this board ad infinitum.

>beggars are the scum of the earth! they need to learn to respect that some people don't want to collab with holostars
>I fucking hate that piece of shit Vesper! He needs to learn his place and collab with holostars instead
Unironically the same people rumao

>>55237472
Kek, it’s always funny when anti-homo anons know more about the homos then your average fan

>>55239874
do you expect autists to be able to understand what jokes are

>>55239004
I meant multiplayer games with tempus (did some Warcraft streams and at least one birthday party game) but sure why not kek

>>55239922
Well he can't do anything now lmao

It's funny that /vt/ schizos hates Vesper, for everything of themselves they see in him.
>is mentally ill, on meds
>is paranoid and anxious
>boomer fag, hates change
>doesn't want to fag and fujo bait, autistic asexual
>argues with retarded managers (especially considering new improved management didn't come in until December/January after he got suspended)
>is a "yeah, me" poster
>has stories of being retarded OR "makes up randomly bullshit as fact for entertainment" rrats

>>55238247
Essentially during the hogwarts legacy shitshow he basically said that he supported the tranny protest so he wouldn’t be playing it, but he also didn’t plan on bothering other tempus members about it. He participated in a boycott but didn’t harass anyone so I don’t know why it mattered, this is the correct thing to do if you don’t like a product.

>>55238126
You are right, but sisters will just screach at you and ignore your point entirely

>>55239944
>none of what was said is true
Grim

>>55233336
>Also honestly I kinda liked his 1.0 better
2.0 looks like a completely different guy, like some bishounen in an otome game or something. Unironically soulless

I can't believe I was fooled by this, I feel betrayed
https://youtu.be/VfINLEVCwd0?t=172

>>55233336
>Is he really that bad of a guy?
Nah, /vt/ niggas b hatin on my nigga vespoid cus they racist.

>>55240187
Nobody's racist but it ain't our fault he portrays himself as a hoodlum stereotype.

>>55238907
I'm not sure why sisters have stupid made up stories part of his list of crimes when THEY spend all day making up shit like he raped and assaulted a Holo. What, next we're gonna complain about Mumei's story about running over a ghoul in her car for wacky quirky character points?
They want a Vtuber who's down to earth and relatable, but also a quirky anime character with flawless behavior and has engaging stories about magic robots.

Imagine getting suspended twice (and ghosting your fanbase a lot)
We all know management is retarded but that's no excuse; the girls have to deal with that too and he was given a second chance, but he fucked up again
And now the other tempus members can't even celebrate because it's too awkward

>breaking the rules and getting suspended from Niji = good and based
>breaking the rules and getting suspended from Tempus = KILL THIS MAN

>>55239944
Nah, they either just reposting same pastas (which might've been ironic at the start, but i'm sure now some anons believing in it like Bible) or rephrasing same lines. You even can look at this very thread and see how many people said same
>He's terrible human being, he missed 3 streams so hasn't any respect for his holostars coworkers, also he got suspended, that definately means he's peace of shit

>>55239336
Regis Altare said that he "supports the cause" while trannies where harassing Pikamee to graduation.

The fact that he also said that he is afraid of negative feedback himself doesn't change anything, lmao
The worst mistake in Covers history was to hire Omega and this group of absolute faggots.

Go suck off a tranny at a pride parade and stop trying to ruin this hobby for actual humans.

>>55240232
>Nobody's racist

>>55240317
YWNBAW

>>55240032
Wow sounds like he shouldn't have joined holostars

>>55240293
I swear it’s gotten to point where shitting on Tempus takes precedent over talking about the EN girls

>>55238126
So true Nijisister

>>55240276
Zaion didn't break shit tbf, she was set-up for a kangaroo court.
Dee's Nuts. Never forget.

>>55233336
You probably think 1.0 looks better, because his new model has oversaturated colors. Looks like fucking genshin character.

How can tempiss fans be so delusional, it's like a cult
Vesper could shit on their faces and they'd be thankful
They truly have daddy issues

I think it’s based that everyone here hates males, not because I’m a unicorn, but just because I hate men and male only hobbies that much.

>>55239752
>Vesper is a piece of shit to his genmates and has failed to respect their time and effort by failing to show up to their planned collabs.
But I thought his genmates were tranny supporters? Isn't this like how Gura was "based" for not interacting with Mori for doing homo collabs? Or is only had when Vesper goes solo?

>>55240372
It's catalog after all. If someone really seek some normal discussion here that means they're idiot. You kinda can find it once in while but that's completely an exception

>>55240276
Whorofags are known to have no morals or standards so it's unsurprising they think like that

>>55240360
Yeah it should have been me, then I actually could have called Omega a nigger on stream

>>55240232
>the exaggerated swagger of an elderly vampire

>>55240345
...What?
Are you alright?

>>55240522
I was trying to discuss things until the sisters guy showed up. After that anything south of calling for Stars genocide would result in a screenshot of Chinese fujos so I stopped.

>>55240232
?

I find no reason to shit on tempus. It's not my thing but that's fine, it has an audience and I don't have to shit on it. But vesper is categorically a liar, narcissist, and all-around shit human being and deserves whatever he has coming to him

>>55239209
>was an afterthought
>"Ah what the fuck, let's just do it. I don't care. Anyone starts to gets pissy I don't care I am too old"
Sure sounds like he only had the best intentions, you know "owing the chuds", right sisters?
I'd be like if Coco intentionally mentioned "Taiwan" just because it should not be an issue but obviously causes a lot of damage to the company and coworkers of hers.

/vt/ go one day without making a vesper thread challenge

>>55239242
Eh, that's rich coming from someone part of the "fuck the unicorn incels" crowd, how does it feel being in the losing side? How does it feel knowing that the star branch got forever damaged? Because there was a time line were the unicorns would remain mostly neutral BUT NO, owning the incels was more important, you made your bet and you lost, remember the taste of defeat sister, you earned it.

>>55240717
Ok, why?

Vesper getting most of the homos ire is funny to me because he's the most nonthreatening of the bunch. Just some maladaptive autist that doesn't know how to function around others and probably never will. Axel is clearly the fuckboy of the bunch, Bettel gets crazy fujo money. Somehow the guy most like /vt/ gets all the hate. Self loathing is female behavior, you have to rise above that.

>>55240717
I find the board's hostility towards women's entertainment quite unreasonable. It's like barging into a kindergarten and berating the kids for enjoying Teletubbies.

>>55240669
You forgot Vox "burp into pussy" clip and Hex's selfharming fans screenshot. After awhile i started to find this posts ironically funny. Even though this is completely dumb.

>>55240669
if it's the same schizo i'm thinking of, they claim they are the way they are because tempus attracted vox and hex's fans, despite tempus having almost no overlap with them and most of their niji overlap is with nina of all people

>>55238763
Not caring about antis is good, vocalizing how much you don't care just reeks of the fact that those antis successfully got under your skin.
For more info just look at Mori.

>>55240940
this board is unironically more autistic than /vp/ and thats saying something

>>55239617
vesper was pretty great at the beginning. he was just a chill /tg/, /out/ bro. man it went downhill fast.

>>55240940
KEK

>>55238730
>>55238907
Every time with that cope.
No, 99% of Hololivers do not fucking make up bullshit stories to seem interesting. Also Risu blew you the fuck out ages ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ocsaRq3ns

>>55240769
He truly owned the Hololive lovers by.... supporting a Hololive talent.

>>55241032
He probably didn't expect to be one of the more popular ones especially since they had even more lower standards for stars than HoloEN, who were expecting to get 50k~ subs and hit 100k over a few months. That and being the lightning rod for "hey we need someone to play a 4P game let's call Magni and Vesper because they always say yes" probably got to him.

>>55234495
>Having the bizarre "Japan voyage"/spear breakdown over the course of a month and a half or so, destroying his relationship with his colleagues
expand on this.

>hur durr larping sister
no. Genuine curiosity

>>55240493
have you chopped off your dick yet

>>55240769
Yes, unironically. He had reservations because he's a headcase, then realized they were fucking retarded to have and shrugged them right off.
And unless it comes out that's directly why he was suspended again, no damage was caused whatsoever. Not obviously, not a lot, none. Because retarded. I'd say "Unless you count chimp outs on this board" but be real; it's one long constant chimp out. That's the draw.

>>55241054
You know, sometimes doing the correct thing can be bad. Especially, if you try to force your good will on someone. Not sure if you are still too Zoomer to understand this tho...

>>55241048
the squrls gone too far with this sacrilege
correction required

>>55241177
The official story is that he skipped his meds, went to Japan, met with management and other staff, did a bunch of weird shit like buying a fishing rod and then leaving it there unused, and eating a bunch of 3 day old burgers before their 6m anniversary and not showing up. Maybe it was high tension for his autism because he'd just gotten off of his suspension, he also was possibly doing recording in Japan. It's a mystery.

>>55233336
he went from understanding grandpa to spiteful cunt

>>55241054
At this point it feels like all this people seething about raid to Kiara are closet Vesper fans
>Vesper raids to Kiara, says "Some people might get pissed, I don't really care"
>Kiara and KFP don't care
>Tempus fans don't care
>A bunch of random niggers pop up and start seething following Vesper's instruction word by word

>>55233336
Regard ended up being more menhara than any of the girls. If he honestly does get canned then he becomes the most menhara of them all

>>55233336
>But all I see are anti threads about him. Was he honestly that bad?
Believing opinions in 4chan is a mistake, anon. Go watch his stream VOD and decide by yourself.

>>55241370
Oh also I think around that time he had a zatsu drinking heavily and joking about necking himself so I think he's actually one of those people who says they don't care, but probably was rattled by the suspension and trying to improve, and spent way too long thinking about it with autism and anxiety.

>>55239617
most of them dont give a shit about actual cool games which is a damn shame. Shinri played Crusaders of Might and Magic and barely got any viewers because he has a mostly female viewerbase that would rather watch him play catboy visual novels with the red shota or talk about destroying Magni's prostate.

>>55241263
Yea, sure it wasn't doing any actual damage nor was it problematic. He still opted to do something he knew might cause issues. If you know that, you just don't do it.
It is just straight up being inconsidered and a childish move, especially when he has to say "I don't care, look how much I don't care and not speak about how much I don't care". Same as Mori when she fucks up and does not want to deal with the consequences, all of them are just egotistic self-centered children.

>>55241549
Based hope he’s actually done it and that’s why he’s MIA.

>>55233336
He's a fun guy whenever I watch him but behind the scenes he seems detrimentally menhera. I think what really got /vt/'s goat was that he was one of the two Tempus members that collabed with the EN girls with any sort of frequency. I'm rooting for him and Mag to come back and smooth things over because things were looking up when Pako got him a new model.

>Retards /here/ break containment and shit up chat
>Makes fun of the chimps for chimping out
>Chimps chimp out harder
That's it. That's the controversy. That's why he and Tempus are public enemy number 1

>>55241048
So. Your belive Gura is really a 9000 old child? That all the girls are truly bi or lesbians because idk Vtuber agencies makes that a job requirement? That they are always happy inside when they stream? That what they havent said on stream it hasn't happened in their irl lives? Do you actually belive they are contractually obligated to doxx themselfs with their real life situations? and worse that because they said " no no we dont do that" you actually belive thats a fact now?

Be serious man a a Vtuber you're roleplaying a character and that even includes the person behind them. Unless you're active with your real face in other channels what stops you from making a nice intresting story for content? I doubt the agency stalks you irl to verify your stories. And ofc you would never admit doing that that would be stupid and make people lose faith in you. But they cant neither verify what your saying its true or not just take your work so thats free 20-30 min of content.

>>55241048
Way to completely miss my point. I legitimately don’t give a shit if they make stuff up or not, is it really that hard to understand? Why would I hate anyone for having cool stories, made up or not? It’s one thing if you just don’t like the stories, but hating him for the stories being made up is just so incredibly stupid. It’s basically the same as hating a novel because it’s not an accurate record of historical events, or hating a drama because it’s not a documentary

>>55233336
sisters are mad at the homo because he missed the blue faggots birthday and apparently crossing their yandere leader is worse than sin
and /vt/ is just mad at everything

>>55241696
It makes me skeptical of a direct suspension because why would they suspend him literally 3 days after his model debut, unless they were being Jewish and wanted to collect the money back for investment before suspending him?

>>55241434
Are you still at that age to get that you should NOT do things if you know it could cause issues?
Vesper didn't know how it would turn out and it did turn out well, but it doesn't change that his reasons as to why he would go out of his way to potentially cause trouble were stupid.

>>55241778
Even that doesn't make sense. Even if Cover went full black company and kept 98% of the money he earned from the two times he streamed with it, the model likely cost them more than that.

>>55241750
>And ofc you would never admit doing that that would be stupid and make people lose faith in you
Why? I thought being a pathological liar doesn't matter because "EHUEHUE LE INTREDASTING STORY XD"?

>>55241759
>hurr durr who cares if it's made uip
Literally everyone you moronic sack of shit. If you realize one of your supposed friends is a pathological liar who constantly makes up bullshit stories, the response isn't to go "wow BRO you're so good at telling stories you should write a book!", it's to disassociate from that person because he's an obvious psychopath.

>>55242025
What are you even trying to say?

>>55242111
>One of your supposed friends
He's not your friend, sister.

At this point the mongoloids at Cover waited too long, it would now be way funnier if Vesper came back suddenly and no information was ever given to what happened. Everyone already expects termination after all this time so I have to pivot to the conclusion that produces the most seethe.

>>55236389
>>55236469
>>55236517
>>55236745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oXdi5DUruo&t=7640s
>you can see the spam in chat on-screen and he responds soon after

sisters really need to watch streams of the homos they defend

>>55241891
Your bias is kinda leaking
>go out of his way to potentially cause trouble
I was on that stream and I didn't see any malicious intent. He tries to raid as much as possible and he raided Kiara before. His remark was not the main part (as much as dramaniggers try to show), it's more like "ok, there's risk, but it will be fine". But then again, as I said in very first sentence about your bias, I have mine one too, because i'm his viewer.

>>55242111
And you believe the girls are 100% honest, I presume? All the tummy hort is completely real? Gura's new normal conveniently changes when new girls debut?

>>55233336
Gura is my oshi, i watch him daily, but something change the moment this guy decide to corrupt the girls and saying "owning the haters"

>>55242300
collab ≠ fucking

>>55242025
Being a VTuber is barely any different from being an actor. Yes if you wanna call them that actors are "profesional liars". Their job is to convincingly pretend living intresting situations that attract audience they i mean are literally getting payed to do that. That why youll hear some vtubers having theater experience in their past.

When you watch a VTuber you are willingly accepting to play along their fantasy for fun thats the true inmersion and point of vtubers.

>>55242411
I shit on all girls who lie when they die and don't watch any who do it as easily as Gura.
The difference is that their lying is incidental while the shitstain sex pest is a pathological liar and thus the only thing he deserves is to get tortured until the sociopathy is raped out of his diseased brain.

>>55242447
>the moment this guy decide to corrupt the girls

>>55242300
holy based

>>55242111
>literally everyone
>one of your supposed friends

meds

>>55242300
Sis did you even watch what you posted?

>>55242530
>the shitstain sex pest is a pathological liar and thus the only thing he deserves is to get tortured until the sociopathy is raped out of his diseased brain.
And the award for "most female post of the day"....goes to this lucky anon!

JUST DO IT ALREADY
THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME
WE'LL FEAST FOR WEEKS ON THEIR CARCASSES AND MASS SUICIDES THEIR DEATHS WILL INDUCE

>>55242530
>the difference is their lying is in regards to their health which is 10x worse than dumb stories
Ftfy

>>55233931
>/vt/ was pretty fond of Vesper
insane revisionism

>>55233336
for someone that "just wants to have a good time with people" it's pretty strange that he doesn't want to collab with his gen or branchmates but anytime there's a girl collab his schedule/mood/energy clears right up...

>>55242500
The problem are the ones who can't play along and just take everything seriously kek

>>55242530
and im sure youre the one that wants to do the raping huh

>>55242111
>she believes vtubers are your friends
sad!!!

>>55241891
Correction: Menhara Vesper before he saw Kiara was the only option didn't know.
KenjaTime Vesper after he saw Kiara was the only option knew it wouldn't.

>>55242744
I mean very early on he was positively received but people pretty quickly figured out he was a piece of shit, that was even before her started going off the deep end

>>55242975
You are so obsessed with this attack pattern that I can't be sure that female hands didn't type this

>>55240869
>>55239298
>>55238957
>>55240183

>>55242975
unless you're specifically talking about /mans/ or whatever, this is still cope. stars were met with apathy at best and outright hate at worst. the hate got worse as he outed himself but he was never "loved" or liked, none of them were (despite the astroturfed MAGGED memes)

>>55243077
Don't care how you feel betrayed by him, homo.

>>55243064
femcels have been seething about vesper for months and justify their seething by making up the narrative that "/vt/ liked him before [_____]"
vesper was never well reguarded

>>55243064
Says the guy giving the same scripted NPC response to everyone that talks badly about his self-insert / emotional father figure.

>>55241434
>KFP don't care
I'm sure many cared, but don't have the guts to say anything negative in their oshi's presence. This is true for all fanbases by the way.

>>55243234
Sorry he crushed your heart, babe. Get a boyfriend.

>>55241778
I don't think Cover's afraid of taking the odd monetary hit but the cause of his total halt in activities is anybody's guess and we'll only ever have a lick of what's going on when we either see a return stream or we're hit with a notice on twitter.

>>55242744
Archives are still there. I actually checked numberfag threads during his debut the other day and it's kinda surreal image. But, yeah, after vt general opinion on him started to fall, especially after collabs with holos.

>>55243309
>get called out for giving scripted NPC response
>give scripted NPC response
Literal bot kek

>>55242363
>I didn't see any malicious intent
Neither do I, I don't think he was willing doing this to cause trouble
>it's more like "ok, there's risk, but it will be fine"
Yes, and that is enough reason to not do it. Just because you can and it probably is fine, doesn't mean you have to.
Be considerate and don't gamble.
Kiara would be fine without the raid and there are no benefits for her, but potential downsides. Downsides that Vesper dismissed as "I don't care (about the fragile ego of KFPs)".
The most downsides Vesper would have from is that he gets shit on, which he accepted.
I really feel like most of you people here are too young or too burger to grasp this...

>>55241048
>Risu
Apparently she blew her own eardrums out faking that voice. What a self-own.

>>55241613
You're wording it civilly enough that I'm actually kinda seeing your point.
Like I was gonna hit back with "something he THOUGHT might cause issues. Momentarily. As a menhara." but the "don't care" tangent does indeed infer he still thought it a little bit.

man lots of men itt letting another man live in their minds rent free. smells a bit queer...

I liked Vesper and am sad to see him terminated. I hope he gets the help he so desperately needs.

>>55243389
Sure, I totally believe you're not emotionally invested enough to call him a "lying sociopath hypocrite" and not a sister too.

>>55242975
You keep saying the same thing over and over without any basis. Only you hear all that "everyone hate him" in 4chan nowhere else. Yes you can mock other social media specially twitter but news to you there's where the majority of his fanbase is 4chan is not "everyone" by far its more like a handfull at best.

>>55243297
You forget to add that Kiara also was against the raid but didn't showed it. If they somewhat cared you would've saw some attraction during time when he raided her first time

>>55236572
this is part of it, holo is unique and thrives for it. we don't WANT them to lower themselves down to the usual level of indies and stupid niji drama and people would rather fight to an eject a force attempting to bring this about than just welcome it. anyone welcoming such presences are sympathizers and enablers of trying to remake hololive. hololive doesn't need to be remade, the rest of the vtubing needs to be more like it instead.

>>55243482
wasnt there some pissed off ex vestie sister that became a schizo after the Japan stuff? pretty sure even /stars/ hates that cunt

>>55243462
Theres an official statement about it?

>>55243637
in anons head

>>55243391
>(about the fragile ego of KFPs)
KFPs /here/ maybe.
When Kiara directly asked her chat about male collabs a year ago not a single one of the replies said "don't" IIRC.

>>55242646
This.
I wanna know if unicorn flesh tastes like Skittles.

>>55242744
Nah, it was. Altare was a gayfaggot, Axel was boring, Magni was divisive. Vesper had the most uniform interest.

>>55243637
Not yet but he's been gone for almost a month now with 0 word about what happened or if he's coming back with the others clearly gag-ordered from mentioning it.

The big ominous thing is him and Magni both getting frozen at once and in the same boat makes it look nearly 100% like Cover took action unilaterally, it's implausible to imagine something (accident, family emergency etc) putting them both out of commission under the same conditions that would make Cover lump up their pauses in the same statement. They gave no warning about this and the guys had streams planned for that week, they were cut-off mid-sentence practically and didn't seem to plan on being away at all. It's either the most poorly-worded suspension ever or something worse.

If they broke NDA (for example leaking to third party like falseeyed) it wouldn't have taken them a month to figure this out and make their call. I think they just want to pad out their exile time until Advent has solid feet on the ground instead of whip up drama while they're debuting. They also IIRC delayed Council debuts because Coco graduated; they don't want the fans angry when new talents are coming out.

>>55243570
If she didn't show it neither say anything against it means you're assuming. You're not in Kiaras head to know what she was or not against the only fact that truly exist is that she was happy about it not because she like Vesper but bc must feels nice to be raided make it feel that your coworkers are actually nice people.

>>55243442
Thank you for trying to see my point, Anon.
I'd be totally in support of your view a few years ago. I did stuff like this since I felt like I was in the right to do them but ended up hurting people with that. This is why I have grown to dislike such behavior.

>>55243462
When they finally announce the termination I will open a celebration thread.

>>55244007
TLDR: I dont know i just want to think he was.

>>55243570
Damn you don't even need the set-up this time. Crazy.

>>55243701
Controversal topics lead to safe opinions in this case. No one would say it, but they'd think it.
If she would do it they would leave her or cope like Fandeads did.

>>55243637
You don't understand, anon. They delayed Tempus' anniversary for weeks so they can announce the terminations any day now. It makes perfect sense

>>55241580
>Shinri played Crusaders of Might and Magic
link? can't find it

>>55244390
VOD down because he had a desktop leak
also had some questionable audio fuckups so i imagine he isnt happy with the quality. i'd go ask /MANS/ sisters for a reupload of it

>>55243391
Well, I could understand you, but honestly i still don't think his raid is showing that he's a somewhat bad person. From his point of view that move was completely normal because:
a)As I said he raiding quite often, Kiara is a quite known runt and numberfag and a lot of people are filtered and don't give her a chance, so he might've thought it's good idea i don't think she would refuse few hundred people out of 1500 who will stay after raid.
b)When he said the "some people might get mad" it was quite clear he was talking about some random dramafags and their opinion doesn't matter, as we can see post-factum, the only peoply who were pissed was neither fans of Vesper and fans of Kiara, so this was true
Overall I think we can agree to disagree.

>>55244299
As much sense how you been predicting graduations for years about everyone and missing every single time. I lost count how many time i hear people swearing on their first born child that Calli, Ame, Gura or some of tempus gonna graduate next week and always miss. Until theres no official statement everything its a rrat and thats ok this is 4chan nobody is expecting you to be sane, have common sense or actually tell the truth.

>>55241580
>mostly female viewerbase that would rather watch him play catboy visual novels with the red shota or talk about destroying Magni's prostate

this is however what stars was really-designed to be, or rather it's the only way it can sustain an audience without it being forced in as people watching the stars only out of a feeling of obligation or doing a favor to try to simp for a girl who wants them to do that. obvious-kronies in vesper's chat very possibly aren't there for vesper (or only partially-are), they're there to appease kronii and hope she approves and notices them for it. that's not a real fandom. 500 fujos who really-love you >>> 1k tourists who treat your stream as a waiting room for the girl holo they actually-care about

>>55244136
Come on now cut >>55244007 some slack, he's actually backing up this rrat up with logic & problem solving.
I'm suddenly scared bwos...

>>55244528
Woosh

>>55244528
Sanity?? Honesty? Eww thats for normies gtfo you tourist i must seethe in my delusions in peace.

>>55244528
I assumed that post was sarcasm tbf

>>55244062
First sentence supposed to be sarcasm, I probably should've highlighted it more.

>>55244672
It was, which is why I replied with >>55244611

>>55233336
So OP.
Was this thread everything you expected?

>>55244672
Yeah i agree read it a bit more closely after sending the answer. But tbf this place messes you in the head from 100 deranged comments its weird when you find that 1 sane person. You start to be paranoic youreself. I need to take a rest from /vt/ for a week to restore some sanity.

>>55244725
Well shit. Fooled me.

>>55244793
OP is probably buying fake passport and one-way ticket to the North Pole after he saw that stupid thread

>>55244839
wise choice

>>55244915
Don't worry, happens to all of us

>>55244793
Honestly I was expecting way fewer replies