/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55002782
Auditioned so much that cover designed models exclusively for them.
My Shiorins pets are so strong!

Should've been harder. We still got one rotten apple in the bunch.

>>55002782
This shit board would be calling them Holorejects/seething 2views had EN3 not happened

How the fuck did she made it in?

>>55002847
shiori just mori's nepo hire

>>55002873
So? Hololive is like Broadway of Vtubing.
They made it.

>>55002873
except they were always highly praised even before the first EN3 teaser. it seems like you yourself are a seething 2view holoreject projecting your insecurities

>>55002847
such a shame too considering how amazing the model is

>>55002847
Bijou's not that bad, anon

I wouldn't have minded a longer wait if it meant we could we get 5/5 good talents instead of just 4/5 desu.

>>55003237
>>55003171
>>55002891
>>55002847
Back to discord pajeet

>>55002891
Sucked Loserbait's micropenis

>>55002873
That's why all holotalents deserve the hype and love, cause being holo means they're not dogshit reject chubas like the rest

>>55003474
Keks in nijinigger

>>55002782
it's very apparent how far ahead they are from the rest of the field though
i guess hiring is the weakest link in any industry

did they not mean that it was hard to sell the idea of double vtubers to cover?

>>55002873
and?

>>55002782
It's the twin idea. Cover was too scared to commit resources to it until they were finally accepted.

>>55002873
But they DID get in.
That's what separates them from (you), seething 2view.

>>55003273
back to r*ddit bbc-loving cuck

>>55003474
Yes, every member in Hololive is good. Except for the ones that aren't.

>>55002782
There was no en3 because Cover was fixated on homos.

>>55003452
Why couldn't it have been MY micropenis?
:(

>auditions once
>gets in before fuwacoco and nerissa

>>55003910
It's fuwamoco, chuddie.

>>55003910
Not sure if retarded or b8

>>55002782
It also means they auditioned in EN1 and Omega didn't like their audition

>>55004162
What makes you think that? By that logic 5 times would mean they applied to homostars too.

>>55002782
newfags all talking like twin vtubers are a brand new thing while one of the most successful cases follows the exact same format is so tiresome

>>55003700
Says guy with BBC occupying his mind rent free. Jakartan and mutts have a closeted black dick fetish. Proof this guy.

>>55004235
They should join JP7.

>>55003910
>quits before 1 year passes
Gamers were the only good nepo hires Hololive ever had.

>>55004235
They're not twins.

>>55004258
that's because they're jp. you could take a random jp woman from the street and they'd make a better hire than most of en

>>55004235
it has never been done before in hololive. i don't care what some retarded 1view whores are doing

>>55002782
I think the issue was the seemingly risky idea of accepting twins into Hololive, since they were on a single channel. If we’re being honest, that’s a fucking HARD SELL, so imagine they did well to have them be willing to take that chance. Also their designs fit them all too well. I think Cover put their faith into this one.

>>55003474
Shiori got through though, likely a nepo hire

>>55004235
>being brand new for hololive means nothing at all
Okay retard-kun

>>55004338
>1view
you need to go back

>>55004238
Yo bro, don't involve us Indofags in your shit-flinging war. Us Indofags are pretty damn neutral, if anything.

>>55002782
guess i have to kick my oshis ass that she should send in more applications

>>55003474

Explains Shiori then

>>55004343
you telling me I should thank myth, council and tempus for derailing so hard that cover's desperate enough to try things outside the box?

>>55004671 (me)
Explain*

>>55004235
These two are so great and I need to have a threesome with them

>>55004711
Not that anon, but yeah I guess so.

>>55004711
New management, probably then lead to better VTuber picks for EN3. Or, a management simply more willing to take risks.

>>55002847
At least wait to hate Shiori for when she collabs with a male.

>>55004711
>>55004988
Kiara and I think Mumei and Bae have confirmed that there have been major internal shakeups. Lots of new managers, reshuffling of existing ones, and what sounds like turnover and new hiring of non-managers who may have been above them and vetoing shit for dumb reasons.

>>55004343
I bet someone figured that if EN bombs they can just switch them to JP

>>55003237
BAU BAU kill yourself BAU BAU

>>55002782
And they learned from it and is now part of Gen3 with soon 400k subs

>>55004224
I can't imagine the 4-5 times are all attempts from them auditioning just for EN3

>>55004671
the only reason why Shiori got so much flak in /here/ was pretty much because of her "respect my collab choice" thing that she said in her ending stream. Believe me, while a lot of people found the stuffs she presented in her debut quite odd, everyone were pretty much tolerating them with some even liking them. But, what she said in the end. fucking mindbroke /vt/.

>>55002782
>auditioned 4 or 5 times
nice

>>55004671
See, Mister Guy Jean. This gen need 1 person to shield the rest from Homobeggars, trannies and brown monkey. So the role was handed to Shiori: the one with most experience in uchuuba. And in return she get the best model and her gen mate support.
Now look at the state of this board: All the retards fall for the bait hook line and sinker, leaving the rest of her gen clear to grown without schizo following them.
You're welcome.

>>55002847
true

>>55003910
I some times wake up at night thinking about that 1 amazing would-be chuuba that didn't get in because of this beckhort taking the spot.

>>55003910
nepotism doesn't count

>>55002782
My rrat is that they want to weed out those who want to join for the fame & money.

>>55002782
>lots of anons here said
that's usually solid evidence that something is obviously untrue

>>55004868
>Not that anon, but yeah I guess so.

>>55005388
I kneel Jap-sama

>>55005515
Laplace got in on first try

>>55005615
I'm not very good at this "meme" thing so I hope another anon could do a better job.
t. Jap

>>55004235
How is this tiresome? How could it in any way negatively influence you if someone erroneously says twin vtubers are a new thing?

>>55004235
STREAM WWW MOTHERFUCKERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPocET-tVM

>>55002782
Does this mean Cover will be open to have duel streamers in the future?

>>55004235
>>55005770
Himehina.. I remember Mr.Virtualizer being such a bop for it's time along with Siro's Clap Clap Clapping..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_Ee6IOh2Y&list=PL1tX8zAv8bPnzaUHpd9T7Iby2mrohEjkd&index=1
Also this asmr dropping just as I got ill made it personal, too bad never got around to oshi them as I already had one am not a whore..

>>55002847
Spbp.

>>55005982
>duel streamers

where were the twins popular anyway in their PL? reddit? twitter? i'm curious how meme magic affected cover scouting

>>55002782
Thank god they avoided the black companies and made it to Hololive.

>>55004671
Discord troons like you are obsessed with her.

>>55004671
No, you explain why is she a bad hire.

>>55002891
Leeching off Eileen and being an 「「OG Vtuber」」.

>>55002914
oshit really? She ain't that milky bong is she?

>>55002847
>>55003237
>everyone instantly knows these are about the bookworm
...Why? Haven't watched the debuts in-depth yet. Just heard broad cliffnote recaps.
Is it seriously just the "respect my collabs" comment?

The Q&A was hugely informative.
They did their research well on their senpais.
They also talked about how they had to pitch their twins idea since the audition form isn't meant for that. Also, they were probably playing R18 VNs before 30 percent of the board were even born.

>>55007413
I believe it was the “respect my collabs” (thinking it meant males), and the idea that her debate was underwhelming at the time. Then probably hate for the fanbase as well, as they started firing back at the other girls.

>>55002782
>lots of anons here said that there was no en3 because no one auditioned
stop making up shit that was never said
everyone knows tons applied but ended up going to small corpos

>>55003628
which is why people found individual channel placeholders for them

>>55004238
>rent free
Shiori literally paid the rent.

>>55008240
>Then probably hate for the fanbase as well, as they started firing back at the other girls.
OK see, this is the kind of bizarre blink-n-miss insight I was after, thanks anon.
...That said my brain's doing cartwheels trying to make logical sense out of it. So what; there's been an influx of anti-thread & posts aimed at the other 4 girls, that consistently include a "Shiori's awesome BTW" at the bottom?

>>55006403
A shonen duelist-thened branch with a YGO player, a Duel Masters player, a Battle Network player, and a Bakugan player would be funny. All female, of course.

>>55005303
>They tried both EN and JP
>Council debut August 2021
>Holox debut November 2021
>JP has permanent open applications
>EN had multiple "audition now" especially after homos debuted
There was dozen reasons for them to apply even more than 5 times
but regardless if their audition was good or not Cover wasn't debuting fucking no one for almost 2 years (excluding ID for obvious reasons)

>>55003628
Literally fewer resources tho.

>>55004235
They're a brand new thing to Hololive retard

>>55007481
I'm still in a middle of watching tiz probably finish it later, but I felt relieve when they said they want to keep 90% of the steam English, because they are holoEN at the end of the day.
And chat retarded as usual "we would love you stream in Japanese","I want more Japanese streams" etc, and it was obviously not Japs who were asking for it.

>>55002782
Sorry but Ina's friends deserved the job more, plebians have to wait in line

>>55002891
It's pretty simple. I will only explain it this once so people can disagree even though she talks about it and it says things that corroborate it in the pages about auditions.

She got in because of her OBS skills and video-editing skills, and because she can play an instrument and has a goal of making travel vlogs.

>>55003910
if i were Ina, i'd be so embarassed i'd beat her ass to pulp

>>55007413
shiori's debut was fucking awkward. her streams since then are different. i think a lot of people were trying to ignore the cringe and then she did the collab speech at the very end. it was a bit much for some.
you then had a wave of antis flooding the board, followed by a wave of positive flood (which was likely a different set of antis).. it's all been obnoxious, as usual

>>55008828
EN is permanently open too but they have announcements, with no deadlines by the way. Nerissa indicated vaguely that she had to wait a long time to meet everyone. Considering the main talent of the twins is their language skills which aren't amazing it makes sense they had to try several times.

>>55007413
Most of it are baiters, but it was a bad debut and dumb thing to say, so people obviously gonna be sceptical about her.

3/4 of EN3 is Ina nepotism

>>55009106
Her recent streams have been weird too. I think she will lose more people if she doesn't settle down.

>>55002782
Sometimes I feel like Holo looks for persistence in their talents. You can be entertaining and talented, but you also have to apply more than once for Cover to make sure you're not going to shit on the opportunity *cough* Sana *cough*

>>55002847
Pajeet seething again

>>55005770
i actually like it, i'll stream it for one week

>>55009106
>Supports the talent
Anti
>Not supporting the talent
Anti
Pajeet are seriously mindbroken.

>>55009386
what was so weird about it? it was an educational stream

>>55008775
1. Endless posts were made saying that they like all the girls except for Shiori. This was from an early judgement of her debut performance. It wasn’t wrong IMO, because I felt similarly. I think she’s good now though, after having watched her newer streams. Then the obvious worry over male collabs is another story.
2. I seen uptick on the posts within the same threads attacking the other girls, which seemed a response to it. So of course, that creates more hate back and forth.
That’s my understanding anyway.

>>55009555
k, so the catalog being flooded twice was just natural.

>>55004711
unironically yes, i bet Omegay's choice would be far worse. i'd rather have isolated Tempus2 than mixed gen

>>55003127
Liar

>>55002891
She's a major part of vtuber history by being the first popular EN vtuber and has a different personality and skills than the rest of EN. Why wouldn't she?

>>55002782
Homobegging faggot watch streams instead of being a filthy clip watcher. They literally graduated late last year, more accurately fired, their auditions were way before that

>>55002891
>why?

>>55005144
This doesn't really make all that much sense since EN is pretty strong as a branch, unless you mean if those two specifically bomb

>>55009658
Educational with a pinch of salt. Just her wishy washy pandering and rambling. It wasn't bad but if I have to think about it critically then it was mid for a chuuba and low to mid for an educational content creator. It coasts too much on the character and trying to get reactions from chat.

>>55009057
I disagree

>>55009966
They are all doing great. Bijou is just getting knocked around in the middle of primetime.

>>55009997
dunno, tonight will be interesting.

>>55009966
The fact that Nerissa went from dead last to a second by a good margin makes me feel like there is still hope for EN.

>>55010115
Yeah I think they’re all doing great; there is no Sana this time around. I just posted it because he seemed confused.

>>55009997
It was shit for educational desu, she should call it exploring X together, that would be more appropriate, she does her research, but that's like me reading few biology biology articles and pretend that I can teach biology now, I think her streams are fun and engaging, but they aren't really educational, more like clicking on random BBC video on YouTube and learning something new, it's just cool and interesting and it's fun geeking out about it with her.

>>55005388
Im against homo collabs but at the same time I believe you should always have at least one homo collaber you could point to to get normalfags off your back. Myths was Mori and Councils was supposed to be Bae and no one really gave a shit with that arrangement.
It was ame and kronii also doing it which pissed everyone off

>>55002782
1st rejection
>favored mori and kiara instead
2nd rejection
>favored sana and kronii
3rd rejection
>favored tempiss
4th/5th rejection
>favored tempoop
the omegatranny era truly was hell

>>55007413
https://twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1686601727376592896

>>55010271
Mori brought in tons of revenue and was one of the 2 reasons why myth was not a complete failure compared to the IDs

>>55010271
w-why would they be rejected to join tempiss? do they have dicks?

>>55005754
One that doesn’t feel hopelessness in the face of stupidity is not a caring human being

>>55002873
They were probably 2virw rejects before, they didn’t deserve to get in then but now they do.

I have no idea how they convinced Cover to hire them. There are so many risks with a hire such as this. I'm glad they did though.

>>55010391
holoEN was accepting male "and female" auditions
then they shoved female releases in favor of sausage parties

>>55009423
Sometimes I think that most anons don't think at all and assume the world revolves around their own narrow desires and values. Think about it, what was their appeal and why would it help their audition? "LOL we're twins get it LMAO" only appeals to fans. You can conceivably understand that they tried that and failed and that their Japanese had time to improve. As they tried a few more times they probably changed to emphasize their unique qualities as entertainers more than previous experience as VTubers and being twins. Persistence without changing their approach only makes sense from the perspective of a fan that can't think objectively about the industry.

>>55010271
Fuwamoco was rejected by Holo JP auditions, but anons saying it was because of where she lives.

>>55010255
>ame and kronii
That was on omegay's ass (and Mori). He tried to catch the Luxiem hype aka "Popular demand" and was rightly laid off for it, trust the Jap.

>>55010271
There is nothing wrong with Kiara, faggot. She loves Hololive and wants to be an idol.
The shit hires from Myth were Mori and Ame.

>>55010255
Having a homocollaber is literally what caused homobeggars to begin with.

>>55002847
>>55002891
she didn't do anything to deserve this hate, yet. can you at least wait to see if she collab with males or not

>>55010143
>>55010231
Apparently she went to college but I don't know if she only completed a BSc or what her major was. Her streams are just kind of madcap and descend into stream of consciousness ranting. Which is all well and good but not something I'm going to look up if it's not live.

>>55004235
Reminds me of how normalfags consider Apple "brave and innovative" for implementing features that have been available on other phones for years.

>>55009423
What made Sana quit so fast in the first place? Was vtubing not for her or have a big enough fanbase?

>>55010923
bad back
no really she preferred to work for zhang

>>55010923
She couldnt handle streaming and working for chink companies at the same time. In the end she chose her art career over streaming.
Such a waste

>>55010271
retard their vtuber RM gig graduated around tempiss debut or pre-debut.
if anything, they got accepted during Tempus1 era and management tried to make a model that fit their persona.
Just proof that holos and homos audition have separate management to handle it.

>>55005330
/vt/ has been down the same road before. They are desperate since before half of En were Homo collabs

What pisses me off is the people who beg for fucking homo collabs, don't fucking watch streams anyways

>>55010826
I actually vodfagged through her streams, because I was at work, so I thought might as well, and I didn't get the urge to close it like with some others, so I think she is entertaining even when rambling. But I'm about to go on vacation, and I don't know if I will be vodfagging through her streams, since you know, I don't have to sit in a cage.

Yeah they had to literally invent manzai because the Japanese had no concept of a double act before they auditioned.

>>55011338
Kind of cringe but I get it. I usually put on an interview or deep dive to get me through the day.

>>55011591
i listen to karaoke streams sometimes while i work.. aqua this morning.

>>55009106
>>55009675
Judging chuubas by their debut performance is stupid as fuck anyway. Go watch Korone's dumpster fire of a debut if you have any doubts about this.

>>55010546
You lost, redditfag?

>>55011591
Why would anyone watch a damn interview? Do you just like hearing questions being asked? An interrogation would be better.

>>55010115
Bijou just needs to start going hard on the long challenge streams she promised and she'll find her crowd pretty fast

>>55002782
I will never forgive Sana for taking up a spot, only to fuck off a few months later.

>>55011591
I usually put up some music, but I caught last 40 minutes of her stream when was at work, so I decided to check out the start of the stream and she talked and talked and at some point I started hearing things I already heard and didn't realize 3 hours has passed.

>>55010923
She hates money

>>55010923
Bad back then workload she rather not do. She went back into what was most comfortable for her that she has down pat. It is what it is.

>ame gets in after one lengthy audition
>twins takes almost half a dozen tries
>gen 3 still ends up with boring talent
they're never going to get it quite right I see

>>55009832
newfag, a quick archive rep will show you that the general vt consensus about their previous lives was always positive. they were just not very well know until their graduation

>>55012107
honestly anon it might just be that streamers are boring for you, especially corporate streamers.

>>55002782
I'm more interested in the logistics of this. Wouldn't their earnings be split between two people? They must be really confident in taking over Hololive if they're willing to spend the next 5 years of their life sharing one account

>>55007413
>Is it seriously just the "respect my collabs" comment?
For me it's the complete mismatch between voice and personality, and model. I wasn't even hoping for a dommy mommy menhera yandere goth GF or anything like that, I just wanted her to have more hag energy with a deeper voice.

>>55009997
She kept her /#/s pretty well, even with Nerissa's raid. Seems like a /you/ problem.

>>55012267
Never was supposed to be hag, anon.

Shion is supposed to be a mastermind according to the lore. Nerissa fills the hag role

>>55012472
since when has lore ever fucking mattered for longer than 0.18 picoseconds? That design begs for a smokey, husky, low voice.

>>55002782
They probably couldn't go into detail about their past experience as vTubers due to NDA so it was an even harder sell.

>>55012068
>still believing the back hort lies
bro she was streaming zhang gacha games on her RM account while she was on break due to back hort problems

>>55002847
Anon can you at least wait until Shiori collabs with Tempus before seething? There are more holoEN streams and you are getting angry over collabs that you won't even watch.

>>55012186
i expect them to take home no less than 150-200k/yr as a holo and substantially more if they are successful. Even splitting the low end in half is more than enough to live on especially if you're live with the other person

>>55012970
She was also eating and having twitter spaces as Sana during the same period. What's your point? The accident was real and so was the hurt back. She recovered and quit. What kind of stupid "aha gatcha" shit post is this.

>>55013083
I cant wait for the white paper tweet from cover itself

>>55002847
Sad seeing yet another awesome model wasted on self serving trash.

>>55009966
>>55010172
>less subs than Nerissa by a good margin
>still managed to get better ccv and vod views in post debut streams
How did she do it? Why the doomposting then? Is she called the runt of EN solely because of her subcount?

>>55014111
*better ccv and vod views than Nerissa

>>55010546
>redditor

>>55013359
>She recovered and quit.
Then stop saying her back hort was the reason she quit.

It's astounding to me how someone completely and utterly mindbroke such a large portion of /vt/ with four simple words. Holy shit I can't even fathom being so pathetic.

>>55002782
So were they auditioning while they were still Makoto and Akira?

>>55014305
don't kiss your homies

>>55005330
>stuffs

>>55014308
There's a three month period before you can submit another application which would mean they've been trying for 12-15 months at most. I know Cover used to accept applications constantly but had to implement the three month rule due to spam but I forget when exactly that happened.

>>55014303
No. Because it was a reason she quit.

>>55007413
Yes, I don't like people telling me what I should or shouldn't respect. I don't care about male collabs but seeing a vtuber with /vt/ living rent free in her head to the point where she would say something like that in a debut is a big red flag.

>>55014646
You're fucking retarded. Getting something like that out of the way as early as possible is the best option because of just how fucking delusional that particular portion of the fanbase is. The longer she waited to rip off that bandage the worse the backlash would have been. This can not be disputed.

>>55010634
>Isnt that Omegay?
Fuck no!

>>55010314
It feels like she's forcing herself so hard to say that, as if she's just setting herself up to be controversial on purpose.

>>55013359
>my back horts so i cant stream
>proceeds to stream on old account
>nooo you cant say that what was the point of this response!?
that back problems were a lie and not the reason she quit and simps(you) keep eating it up. neck yourself

>>55002847
Not wrong, and while it's still very early to say, Fuwamoco, Bijou and Nerissa seem like absolutely fantastic picks, the kind that will leave all the rest of EN in shambles if they don't start putting in some effort in fact.

>>55008800
What if they were male characters, but clearly female talents. Like pretty much all shounen protags. Or Tamaki.

>>55014809
You are correct. This was unironically a good move

>>55002782
and yet out of all of those girls they get Nerissa and Shiori who are boring beyond belief, i refuse to believe there isn’t a massive talent drought out there and that all the good streamers just went indie

>>55015194
>>55015359
I guess it's all subjective because I managed to tune into Shiori's autistic blabbering and found her to be far more engaging than Bijou's and Nerissa's post debut streams but I guess it's way too early to make any worthwhile judgment.

>>55014646
Ofcourse theyre /here/
Twitter/antis
Reddit/beggars
Discord/groomers
This is the only place where aspiring chubbas feel safe and can ask question with needing to be judge by garbage people
>were incel not garbage FYI

Gen 3 can be one of the biggest gen but also crash and burn.

Twins can be massive, goth girl 1 bring diffent stuff, goth girl 2 can be a new ideal no jab calli big singer, loli can be a fun loli with a 4-5h stream every day.
But twins can also stagnate, goth girl 1 can suicide with e-celebs, goth girl 2 can fail as a streamer/singer, the loli can easily fall the apex/valo lapus/bae homo doom pit, this is my biggest fear.

We will see after the end of collab ban.

>>55017770
lol, they have the most generic designs and lukewarm personalities. coupled with management autism about permissions I doubt they’ll perform any better than the previous 2

>>55019825
now say it again without shaking and crying

>>55014962
who's sanas room mate

>>55020654
I used to think that cdawgva rant was cringe but seeing it in real time, people really will eat anything as long as it’s got the corpo sticker on it

>>55002873
It would still be true had EN3 not happened. What is your point?

>>55021165
Corporate gets you Anya's numbers
Anything over that is talent and skill

>>55002847
It makes it so much harder to support the box when they do shit like this. I dunno why they can't be consistent one way or another.

>>55013838
>Sad seeing yet another awesome model wasted on self serving trash
so true
why waste your time and model for an american audience

>>55011901
Okay Shiorin, you can stop being so chuuni any moment.

Duuuuude, that's the damn point.

Fauna is average incarnate and she leading holoen, as everyone else suicided by jabs/homo or barely streams.

Is SO EASY to get on top of holoen.

>>55022686
>she leading holoen
How so?

>>55002782
Just means they ran out of nepo hires

>>55021433
Anya is ID, if anything, Aki would be a better example

>>55003187
She’s the runt of the gen, there’s no saving her.

>>55004258
Cover had bottled lightning with nepo hires once, then think it's the key to success. Luckily the seem to be learning now

>>55021133
love the fags that always parrot her playing genshin, that was just a couple of streams for a contest in Pivix and the channel was abandoned afterwards. As for her Twit, lurk more or learn to use search engines.