/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-8iaG85LgY&t=73s

>>54998448
I think it's just a matter of skill issue desu

>>54998448
You forgot to add that they both have terrible voices that are unbearable to listen to. I'm 100% confident that Aia has one of the worst voices in all of vtubing, next to Enna, Selen, and probably Kiara.

>>54998573
Hololive turns 2views into 6views on their debut. Niji turns 4 views into 3 views.

>>54998448
>Debut week shit talk
Reminds me a lot of when /vt/ kept talking about BEEG Sana and how much ASMR Kronii would be giving them

>>54998448
Somebody post her rice test please thanks

>>54998448
oh nonononono, what they said is not even comparable, what Shiori said wouldn't harm the whole brand, we only get homobeggars not fucking retarded schizoids bringing their normie bullshit

>>54998448
>both librarians
>same exact voice
I told you fuckers day one they were the same person

Schizos gonna schizo anon. Shiori~~n!

>>54998448
You could've chosen another actually competent chuuba to illustrate your point but you chose Aia, the girl who makes watching paint dry look entertaining by comparison and streamed on a shit PC with a laggy model, laggy game and frequent disconnections for basically the first six months. I'm sorry but no, she doesn't deserve 20k ccvs

We could have saved Aia if we'd had faith and tried hard enough.

>>54998448
Unfortunately Aia ruined her career in the first week because she was sick and her bullying shtick didn't work. She was not a streamer before joining Niji. Plus she's from a failed Niji wave that failed to cover all expectations.

Didn't she also say some SJW bullshit in her first streams as well?

>>54998448
stop being so insecure homobeggar and go fap to tranny porn faggot.

>>54998448
Aia actively collabed with males, to the point even their fans were sick of her and wanted her to get away from them.
Her main reason for joining was because her oshi is Ike. She needed like 8-9 months to become not terrible at streaming due to lack of experience.
She's also a part of the niji wave that had the biggest hype and promptly flopped so hard it caused people to not care about new waves anymore.

>>55001755
All throughout predebut

>>54998448
I'm gonna make a thread comparing Adolf Hitler to Kiara with the one similarity being their nationality, and ask why people like one but not the other. That's how retarded this comparison is.

>>54998871

>>55006891
Obviously because one has annoying chicken voice, duh.

>>54998448
Post the rice score

>>54998448
Cope

>>55011981
NIJISEETHE

>>54998448
One of those doesn't hate anime and its culture and will not be spamming handcam streams like a camwhore

>>54998448
Shiori shot herself in the foot. The other chick put a grenade in her mouth and pulled the pin

>>54998448
yeah

>>54998448
Lets be real, Aia has a voice debuff + how fast she talks. Almost final boss level for ESL watchers.

>>55016471
I forgot Aia talks fast. I just don't like the sound of her voice. On the other hand it seems that she's trying to appeal to more people since the Steam sale stream. The only one I really watch is Scarle since she is a chatterbox and streams after I get home from work.

>>54998448
Are you just going to ignore everything Aia did pre-debut on social media?

>>55004282
Don't forget the safe space talk.
And she also a Fujo and i think she half Viet too (which could be a huge debuff if she talk about the wrong thing).
I think i did watch her debut, found it boring and forget about it.

>>54998448

>>54998448
Four words to completely mindbreak the virgins of /vt/. It's hilarious how easy it is to exert power over you retards and make you go full chimpout mode.

>>55029451
Thats cool, how many people watch her? She must be really popular huh?

>>55029557
>immediately going for numbers
Ask me how I know you're insecure. Hurts being called out, doesn't it? No, no it doesn't. Not for a normal person at least.

Aia's actual problem is that even though she is literally into scatplay and other degenerate shit, she is incredibly boring. It's like her sexual degeneracy is something she did purely to fill the hole of boring that exists in her soul.

>>54998448
Quiet, whore

>>55029557
>She must be really popular huh?
More popular than the loli. How does it feel knowing your precious cunny has fallen to the bottom?

>>55029805
I honestly have no idea who you are referencing. If its another niji I dont watch her either

>>55029870
>niji
Anon which board are you on?

>>55006891
Wait, which is the one people like in this comparison?

>>54998448
Actual 2views. Fuck off

>>55029798
bros what... what do you think Shiori would score...

>>54998448
I'm of the firm belief that no matter who voiced Shiori we would have had the same amount of shitposting and spam on the catalog. It's simply a model/design buff. It speaks to how great the design is, because even having an ESL coalburner asian piloting the model, we still have so many spam pro-shiori threads. Guaranteed of the voice actresses switched between Bijou and Shiori, Bijou would not have received the same backlash and would still be caught in the tailwind of the Shiori model.

>>55030152
>Guaranteed of the voice actresses switched between Bijou and Shiori, Bijou would not have received the same backlash
90% of anything negative being said about Shiori is purely due to the fact that she implied she may some day collab with males and if if someone doesn't like it they should probably not watch her. That's it. No matter who said that at debut they would be getting shit on because of those 120k who watched the debut, a sizable portion were virgins scouting for their next obsession. The ones who get upset about male collabs are some of the most fragile manchildren on the Internet.

>>55029451
so true sis, own them incels

>>55030094
She's no angel but definitely not that fucking low

>>55030660
You're talking about someone who enjoys loli rape. What sort of degeneracy on that test is even below that level?

>>54998892
>Hololive turns 2views into 6views on their debut. Niji turns 4 views into 3 views.
4views into LOW 3views

>>55023052
>And she also a Fujo and i think she half Viet too (which could be a huge debuff if she talk about the wrong thing).
>I think i did watch her debut, found it boring and forget about it.
isnt Bao like full vietnamese and a fujo too. It aint that brother. If anything you can skip the viewbots and get vietbots to watch you for free.

>>55029989
Hitler has way more fans than Kiara does

>>55030732
1. you're assuming the vocaroos are actually her
2. shit posts about loli rape and irl slutting around are 2 different things

>>55030956
Anon this is why I asked about what sort of degeneracy is on the test. Does it ask about tastes? Personal experiences?

>>54998448
The thing is during the revel I had huge hopes for Aia. She's a huge dork, plays D&D, and has a fantastic model design; all things in my checklist for an oshi I personally love.

The problem is that even when I try to bring myself to watch her streams, she lacks any originality or charisma. Her streams are mostly talking and drawing which would be largely carried if if they had an interesting personality but frankly, she doesn't. Numbers reflect that and everyone, even herself, sees it. I don't even think its her voice nor the niji-male-collab debuffs; its not unbearable and can be easily ignored if the content was better. She's had a slow year start compared to others and is understandably considering if this was a mistake. But to be optimistic, she can still make it if she makes an effort to shake things up and try a different approach.

Now, I can see Shiori possibly running down the same road. Everyone had their expectations up with the whole femdom big tiddy, goth gf model, but seeing her actually be more mellow than was predicted threw some people off. She still has some quirky traits such as that eating with scissors thing but going with educational and microscope streams as people are trying to get a feel is a gamble. Its unexplored territory that may or may not fill a niche and Hololive's buff can only go so far. Best case scenario maybe I start watching her like she's David Attenborough talking about how male seahorse get pregnant idk. Only time can tell if will pay off or flop like Aia.

>>55030732
You could enjoy loli rape and get still get 90+ on that test since loli rape is not a subject covered by it.

>>55030956
>assuming
They have been definitively linked beyond a shadow of a doubt. I'm not eating three days, if you actually care you'll look at the archive.

>>54998448
Aia sounds like her nose is stuffed all the time, can't listen to that.

>>55031116
look up the test yourself newfag it's been posted a million times
>>55031479
there is 0 proof it's her besides 1 (one) /jp/ thread in which people aren't even on agreement if it's true, insert my cock into your mouth now

>>55031777
>he doesn't know
Gonna do you a favor and accept your concession here so you don't have to embarrass yourself any further. Remain willfully ignorant.

>>55031205
Shiori will be fine she's long lived enough and quirky enough to sustain herself. She can tell stories for days and tells it interestingly enough. With the hololive buff and so many eyes on her, enough people will find her interesting and stick around. Even if it's only a "low low ccv" like 5k, 10x then what she usually had.

>>55031884
catalog rrats aren't proof newfag, I would recommend actually taking 5 minutes to read the original threads :)

>the ignorant retard thinks smug anime girl reaction images win arguments
Who could have possibly seen that one coming?

>>55029451
>>55029672
Her stream yesterday had an average of 240 viewers. She's smaller than small corp girls. You lost get over it.

>>55033525
Psst. Anon. I don't care about Niji.

>>55001755
I watched her for her first couple of weeks and never heard her say anything political. She supports equality and inclusion and all of that, but she was never aggressive about it.

>7, 8? waves
>Aia is still the only person that does any art/sculpting/general creative stuff
Her art style has really improved to.

>>55034509
Still a turbo giga whore

>>54998563
Why is she reading off a script?

>>55035313
Most likely because it's a very sensitive subject for her and she didn't want to get lost in her emotions. Even reading something she had pre-written she was getting choked up.

>>55035538
Thats fair, it wasn't a dig or anything, I figured it had something to do with the context. I just don't see them using word-by-word scripts very often

>>55030152
the shit posting is because of her stupid collab girlboss moment, the model is ultra sexo, her voice is fine and her streams are interesting. but she really fucked up with that unforced error

>>55036602
>she really fucked up with that unforced error
False. It was needed.

>Never enough haters to care about you and make you hardcore fans like xqc
Actually based

>>55030732
>What sort of degeneracy on that test is even below that level?
The Nijisanji talent from the OP admitted to multiple dicks in multiple holes at the same time on the test

>>55035064
How is she a giga whore? Dont tell me because of this incel astrology bullshit. Like every normal person after 20 is below 30 - 99% chance that is true for holoen as well.

>>55036653
needed to ensure she's got the lowest subs in her gen? sure

>>54998448
>both are actually quite sweet
Natsumi Moe is not sweet.

>>54998871
>You forgot to add that they both have terrible voices that are unbearable to listen to.
and yet somehow Shiori managed to beat her genmates in views every single day so far
sounds like everybody else likes her voice

>>55041722
That would be Bijou. Try again retard.

>>55039490
get out

>>55035691
This was from her anniversary zatsu titled "I wrote an essay"
this essay went for about 28~30minutes and after regaining her composure she sang the US anthem with her kazoo

>>55030783
both bao and aia are the same thing
>Viet parents
>grew up their entire lives in burgerland
>can't read and barely talks vietnamese

>>55034912
the fact nijiEN didn't hire someone for art is mind boggling to me
sure multiple of them are pretty good at it like Finana and Petra
but having zero art focused chuubas hurt my brain, also I can't deal with Aia's tumblr design

>>55039490
no one over 20yo with a stable job/relationship is below 30
you have to do so much shit that your parents would whip you for it to get that low

>>55029798
Why are all Vtubers such disgusting sluts?

>>55036602
>her voice is fine
That is a matter of opinion.

>>55047633
>shondo
>87
DYRBI

>>54998448
Natsumi "12 or 13" Moe's rice score might be the only one to surpass Aia's

>>55047758
No, of course not.

>>55041901
>and yet somehow Shiori managed to beat her genmates in views every single day so far
What a massive faggot you're huh?
>Shiori got raided by Bijou at the start of her vtuber history stream
>Shiori got raided by Nerissa 1 hour in during the microscope stream

>>55047847
Proof?

Nobody has speedran ruining a career like Aia. She could be an actual case study.

>>55047978
So what, she still beat them. How doesn’t matter.

>>55048377
>I am taller than everyone hahaha
- while riding the adults shoulder

>>54998563
QRD on what went wrong with her debut?

>>55029798
every time I see this I ponder on which perspective is worse; wondering which 23 questions were not picked or which 77 were picked. Doesn't help that this is like, 90% of women and they all see themselves as good/normal girls who deserve a chance

>>55048377
No she didn't. The dogs mogged them the day before (39k) and today as well (28K). They're gaining subs at a faster rate too.

>>55048619
>she woke-baited
>she had a lingering cough and didn't mute to cough
>she agreed with the management's idea of her being a bully angel

>said/did 1 (read: ONE) strange thing at the start
>she doesn't have sex with me

>>55048810
>she had a lingering cough and didn't mute to cough
Coughing and throat-clearing are the only bodily functions I never want to hear from a chuuba. No way to fetishize them.

>>55048810
>woke-baited
>agreed with management on bully angel
Unfortunate.
>didn't mute to cough
I just watched most of the debut. It wasn't frequent enough to be annoying but it still boggles the mind why she didn't bother to mute. It's really not that hard to do.

Why the over-analyzation? The answer is she's not a Hololive member.

A year ago it would've been reason enough to say "she's Niji" but these days, it's easy to confuse these whores with the other small corpos so there's really no difference anymore.

>>55031884
quit spamming this shit rrat it's annoying. you make the same attempts at vagueposting each and every time.

>>55049778
>>55050210
For me was whatever, just listed the cough cause that was a repeated whining reason on /nijien/ during the debuts
also she wasn't a vtuber prior and probably not even a streamer, so I guess muting didn't cross her mind

>ignorant retard thinks smug anime girl reaction images makes him look smart
It just doesn't end.

Aia is mostly good but when she goes into the loud squealing autism for too long I admit I lose interest. Fortunately she's not like Pippa where that's a majority of her vocalization, but it's at least 30%. Shiori hasn't done that yet, but she's also brand new so we will see.

>>55053421

>>55001755
Shiori uses a plugin that pulls data from one of these pronoun defining websites that has millions of permutations on it.

>>55048619
she literally has a hissing noise throughout her debut, which is the one thing that ALL beginner streamers filter out once they hear it and learn what noise suppression is. that should pretty much tell you everything you need to know

>>54998448
>When will Niji learn that mixed gens are a huge debuff
>Boring streamers get low numbers
Shocking.
>>55002168
>Literal catalogfag
Didn't know you guys were real.

>>54998448
Both are massive whores

>>55048800
Doesn’t count, you need to divide that in half so they still lose.

>>55055497
Her noise gate issues were still not gone the last time I regretfully was raided into one of her streams. Granted that was like 8 months ago, but still

>>55030732
I don't think you understand just the sheer amount of shit you have to do to get a score that low.

So many threads in the catalog comparing the Niji trash to the new holos. Fuck off leeches.

>>55059528
It really doesn't seem that bad. I've only ever had one sexual partner, I missed all the checks for drugs and I scored a 27. Drugs and anything involving sex with more than one person at a time would have knocked that way down.

>>55060145
Ok yeah I recalculated and in fact it is possible to reach that score with just one sexual partner and no major illegal activities required, I stand corrected.

>>55055855
Good

>>55030783
yes and she being harassed by Viet because she said Chinese New Year to a Chinese.
if she in US then her parents might be refugee, and the Viet will harrass them if they don't like the current Vietnam government, that the huge debuff I said about Viet.
Most recently is a K-Pop Idol who is Vietnamese AUS I think got into trouble like that

one thing you have to understand is that aia constantly bled viewers because she got groomed by her regulars/paypigs. there was a time where you couldn't watch an aia stream without 30-60 minutes of her derailing the stream to do some kind of "I'm not a dork" "superchats are NOT free" "stop bullying me" song and dance dance with her donators. she's actually very entertaining when she's doing stuff in her element like hosting D&D but her solo streams were borderline unwatchable for me. I have no idea if it's gotten better.
Shiori on the other hand is grooming her viewers.

>NO SUPAS ARENT FREE NYOOO
>I'm a dork? No you are you're a dork, I'm a chad, the biggest chad to ever chad and you're a dork, a dweeb, a goob. You're a dork and I dont like you... b-but I dont hate you OKAY
>keep doing this for 5 minutes every so often throughout the stream
This isnt even a cherrypick moment, it's so constant, the donations just dominate the flow of the stream.

>>55066344
i guess she can do Tiktok NPC stream with that and just react to the SC

>>55065061
>the Viet will harrass them if they don't like the current Vietnam government
Are the Vietnamese really that supportive of the government? I thought they didn't give it any mind for the most part.

>>55070679
back then, yes but they still mock you for being a loser in the Vietnam war (especially if you a salty bitch that still screaming about we will return)
now? they on their way to become China version 2.0 where you can't disappoint at the government without being called a traitor especially if you Viet

>>54998448
>>54998563
Lol, I totally forgot she existed

>>55066344
Why is iluna such a superchat farming wave
Doesn't Scarle do that too by not actually playing whatever game for hours because she spends most of the time just farming

>>55065274
>>55066344
these replies are accurate. aia may have debuffed herself during debut but her numbers are low now because the only people left are the people who enjoy the constant donation baiting/banter. Aia had no streaming experience before Nijisanji, comparing her to Shiori, who actually knows what she's doing, isn't even fair.

>>54998448
Both are also jungle asian Femcels.
Think about it.

>>55075102
Aia did stream a little in her pl. She wasn't an active streamer but, it is not true that she has zero experience. You can find clips of her streaming Genshin Impact.

>>54999102
shiori is going through the equivalent of the "MAGGED" spam that lasted a few days