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Why is Nijisanji so much cooler than Hololive?
Even Holo fans agree that their company's events and streams are so lame and boring when compared to the creative genius and talent found in Niji events and streams which often times leave you in awe.

>> No.5475564

>>5475521
This is the source btw.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CaQqmgul3wE

>> No.5475568

Literally who?

>> No.5475569

stop tribalposting with my wife's friend
mayuzumi is interested in every denizen of the virtual world

>> No.5475570

>>5475521
What’s the context of the image?

>> No.5475593

It's less nijisanji and more about Mayuzumi is determined to push the boundaries of vtubing. Nijisanji merely enabled his whims.

>> No.5475595

>>5475570
See this
>>5475564

>> No.5475628

>>5475521
t. clipfag/falseflagger

>> No.5475656

I want to kidnap Tsukino Mito and keep her as my personal onahole.

>> No.5475660

>>5475564
Imagine being in Holostars and seeing Males of a company actually get attention and being acknowledged.

>> No.5475667

>>5475521
Good vtubers will dominate the world, and you falseflagger will be the first to the guillotine.

>> No.5475675

>>5475521
Simple, Nijisanji is cooler than Hololive because it's better.

>> No.5475679

>>5475521
Why can't Nijisanji fans make a thread about Nijisanji without attacking Hololive?

>> No.5475714

>>5475679
There are plenty such threads though. And playing the victim when hololive fans use Nijisanji as their boogeyman for everything is hilarious.

>> No.5475745
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5475745

>>5475570
mayuzumi is showcasing his lore by debuting a new outfit by 'hacking' into the real world.
here's a translated video of the OP stunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFMTBilife4
the full story of his lore is quite extensive and involves several other people, even one who graduated, but he does cool things for the purpose of his story. i know OP is a falseflagging retard but if you're interested you can check him out, he has a good amount of subbed clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM_VT_esTAU

>> No.5475746

>>5475679
Losing in numbers despite having first mover advantage. It's just too embarrassing for them.

>> No.5475779
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5475779

>>5475521
Unparalleled creative freedom. Hololive could've been a lot more interesting if Coco and Haachama were given free reign. In hindsight they should've given Mori the OK to collab with her manlet oshi Charlie.

>> No.5475799

>>5475570
Outfit reveal on Shinjuku Alta and crossing, but also Mayuzumi is currently on Lore storyline mode.
This stunt is his continuation of his storyline after his viewer decide to sacrifice his "master" for Vtuber Mayuzumi existence. He was then shocked knowing his viewer choosing him over his master despite both are actually human being.
This stunt is Mayuzumi asking what is virtual and what is reality? Aren't all of us human?

>> No.5475826

>>5475714
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."
— Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi

>> No.5475828

>>5475521
I don't care, I just want more Blues collab.

>> No.5475853

>>5475521
hololive operates in a dark forest ideology basically they dont want to stand out.

>> No.5475880

>>5475521
Nijisanji cares about its talents even though they have many more than Hololive.
Cover doesn't really care, they never have. They still have the shittiest 3D, models, and events.

>> No.5475886

Simple, cause they can

>> No.5475906
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5475906

>>5475521
Nijiwho?
This company only win in term of their talent number quantity.

Fact: only nijifaggot try to compare themselves to hololive and not the otherwise

>> No.5475907

>>5475679
We do. Falseflagging faggots like OP make threads attacking Hololive.

>> No.5475915

>>5475521
One are built by the community, one are corporate shilling. SOUL vs soulless etc, etc...

>> No.5475917

>>5475880
Comparing Okayu's 3D Rain concert and Fuwa Minato's 3D debut looks like night and day. Nijisanji need to hire better people.

>> No.5475920

>>5475679
Don’t Hololive fans do number threads everyday?

>> No.5475936

>>5475853
Are you retarded? they want to stand out, it just happen they don't have to do anything to stand out since the fans will gladly plaster their oshi face anywhere they can.

>> No.5475960

>>5475907
>Fuwa gets shitposted against Hololive for his numbers (one stream)
>now Mayuzumi gets shitposted against Hololive for... events?
When is it Akina's turn? It's only fair.

>> No.5475969

>>5475679
most of nijifans are in niji threads anonchama...

>> No.5475971

>>5475917
if you compare Niji’s 3D to everything else Hololive does and it’s also Night and day. Hell one of the two Males in Hololive who got 3D got botched 3D.

>> No.5475986

>>5475906
They always bash about how talented their oshi are despite having less subscriber than the other vtuber

>> No.5476010

>>5475960
Akina is going to get trap cock tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5_sA6xAbU

>> No.5476023

>>5475660
Only proves that Niji watchers are actual faggots.

>> No.5476048

>>5475920
A lot of the anons in numbers threads are interested in trends and catalysts. What causes a vtuber's viewership to rise/fall, the impact of collabs, who's inclining/declining... etc. Numberfagging attracts falseflaggers and tribalist dumbshits unfortunately.

>> No.5476051

>>5475564
KINO

>> No.5476052

>>5475971
Are there any Japanese who have really good 3D models? Even Cover's shit looks smalltime in comparison to western indies like girl_dm_

>> No.5476055

>>5475521
You already had tribalfagging thread falseflagger-kun no need to make another one >>5469197

>> No.5476060

>>5475521
Hololive got stuck playing pretend with a bunch of lonely loser incels because they're desperate for their SC money that barely keep them afloat since half of it is siphoned away and their tech remains an embarrassing mess since they can't afford to upgrade fast enough.
Nijisanji, however, took it to higher grounds scoring tons of profit from more sponsorships and merch and making huge deals and connections as Anycolor is becoming an international super power that will one day buy Cover for peanuts and end their suffering once and for all. Just pray they're are merciful to your chuubas once that happens.

>> No.5476081

>>5475917
I try not to compare the 2 too often but Christ is Hololive's 3D embarrassing. It wouldn't be such a big deal if they had started was what they are now, but knowing they were originally a tech company and the Hololive was basically made as an ad for their 3D...
It's just sad.

>> No.5476128

>>5476055
The more the merrier

>> No.5476130

>>5476052
I mean if you are indie getting botched rigging would be pretty fucking stupid. That logic doesn’t really make sense.

>> No.5476143

>>5475971
Okayu's 3D is very recent. If you watch the recent 3D streams, the improvement is slowly showing. It is most apparent in their hologra animations. Everyone knows they have been hiring a lot of people to improve their 3D. If Niji stays the same with a range of mediocre to poor 3D that is heavily reliant to the vtuber's vision and productiom knowledge, they will be surpassed very quickly. The camera work in Okayu's concert and just detailed animation in the water droplets and water on the ground says a lot to the their improvement.

>> No.5476153

>>5475521
This shit is pretty cool but too bad I like the holo girls better, I am sure nijisanji has ton of girls that are great but the sheer amount of them make it hard for me to get into. Hololive at least give a sense of a community between the girls and the amount is bareable(barely) in my opinion. But with how chicken hololive is being I doubt we can see some shit like this from them, would be awesome if some of the girls get to do something like this but sadly not happening, but hey with coco leaving, my obsession with hololive is disappearing so I might check out nijisanji more or just watch more anime.

>> No.5476174

>>5476060
The only significant sponsor they have is Google play. The rest are Chinese mobile games. Most of their sponsorships that were considered big was Q1 last year. All the big international sponsorships are going to Hololive.

>> No.5476191

>>5476130
Shouldn't large companies have more resources and thus better tech? If its affordable for or developable by literally whos then its even sillier that the biggest names in vtubing are so laughably bad at it.

>> No.5476197

>>5476174
You mean like Shueisha last week?

>> No.5476201

>>5476143
>mediocre
What?
>Okayu 3D
Yeah it's getting better

>> No.5476203

>>5476153
OP pic is a boy
and it isn't anycolor promoting him, he came up with the idea himself. i'm sure a hologirl could think of the same thing if it fit her idea

>> No.5476204

>>5476081
They were small company back then. Of course it will be shitty. Now they have money so they have the allocation to improve which is showing in spades in their recent concerts.

>> No.5476231

>>5476197
The best that Niji can do is to constantly lick China's balls.

>> No.5476277

>>5475521
Sorry, but I don't find chuubas on big TVs beside the road is cool. Don't get what's so appealing about them other than attracting pedestrians. Ina had one too and it's just a birthday gift from the community.

>> No.5476339

>>5476203
Yeah I know that is a dude, I am just saying I like watching girls more than watching a dude vtubers. And I doubt cover would allowed any of the girls to do this. Coco, haachama, pekora, marine and even astel all got their project rejected. Hololive has become so restricted at this point that it is one of the reason for coco’s leaving so I don’t see this happening

>> No.5476348

>>5475521
Yeah good for you guys. I don't even care enough to go find some shit Nijis did to throw at you, that's how insignificant you Nijifags are. They can try all they want but they're still going to get less subscribers than Ayame who's sitting on her ass doing nothing for a month anyway.

>> No.5476365

Post more like this so holofags can get filtered, thank you

>> No.5476375

>>5476231
What does Shueisha has to do with China? Kinda agree though. Nijisanji being involved with the chinks is another reason I don’t want to get into them, kinda suck but now I hate the chinks.

>> No.5476394

>>5476143
>okayu 3d
Is that the one from the beginning of the year? I can't find anything more recent. I think the biggest technical difference between Holo and Niji's 3D is the presence of real-time lighting on the holo models. They definitely have ways to go, I remember Nene's recent 3d concert was really janky in terms of expressions and the rendering on the body look pixelated and weird. Niji doesn't use real-time light rendering so they can have consistent frames and nothing appears too muddy. However, their audio setup for live 3D is quite poor, looking at Uiha's concert. I've seen "indies" with way better audio for 3D events.

Even then I wouldn't say Niji's 3D is mediocre.

>> No.5476424

>>5475521
The holo girls lack the creativeness. The only one I can think of doing differently is Amelia.
See other stuff like this https://youtu.be/bHIj0I75Qgo

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>>5476348

>> No.5476436

>>5476394
the anon in the reply chain was comparing fuwa's 3D and his had jank as well, he had to reupload some songs because the audio was completely desynced, there was a lot of clipping, frame drops, etc. more of an oversight of the staff

>> No.5476450

>>5476394
Both of agency 3D events are more or less the same, it just depend on the talents/livers willingness to spend to get the best quality. the stark contrast between nene and roberu 3D or kanda and fuwa 3D are telling after all.

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5476471

>>5475521
I know this thread is a bait. but I'll have to remind you all

>> No.5476495

>>5476394
>Nijitribalist don't watch Hololive
What a surprise.

>> No.5476509

>>5476424
I mean some of their project did get rejected so we can’t be so sure about them lacking creativity. Ame is different since she live in America and I don’t think any manager like near her so they can’t stop her even if they wanted to unlike the jp girls, plus their creativity still depend on if cover can actually bring it to life or not and have you seen their tech?

>> No.5476541

>>5476471
I guess anon mean Corporate-funded shits

>> No.5476560

>>5476471
it's from fans anonchama...

>> No.5476567

>>5476541
I think Mayuzumi paid a portion for the ad, it's not all on Anikara. He did boast about being rich after all...

>> No.5476572

>>5475521
Who?

>> No.5476579

>>5476471
This is cool in theory but why can't they use actually good arts instead of deviantart shit that were something like >80% of the images...

>> No.5476605

>>5476495
This but with Holofags

>> No.5476611

>>5476579
It's a fan project organized on discord, anon. Everyone tries to be nice so there's no quality control and almost any entry is accepted regardless of quality.

>> No.5476629

>>5476471
This was made possible by fans not Cover lmao

>> No.5476632

>>5476579
Because they used their own art. They made a page for it and linked that in the qr code. Yes, it did not link to Inas channel.

>> No.5476679

>>5476450
I don't think they really are more or less the same, the quality and precision of tracking in Nijisanjis 3D and how well they can interact with objects and the other livers is miles ahead of Holo. Visual fidelity is arguable though.

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5476804

>>5476567
He paid 1 million yen out of his pocket for a rock paper scissors tournament pool, I can envision him only needing to ask permission from Anycolor, and paying for this himself. Not sure why OP is acting like this is something that can only happen in Nijisanji either. If Cover wanted to promote an outfit in Shinjuku/Shibuya they could but they don't feel the need to.
Oh wait, it's because he doesn't even fucking watch Nijisanji.

>> No.5476868

Don't watch nijishit or holoshit. Watch indie vtuber instead. Support indie vtuber.

>> No.5476901

>>5476804
The OP is a fav but I think there is probably an argument to be made that the greater creative freedom that nijisanji allows its talents fosters an environment where the members themselves are more likely to come up with outside the box ideas and execute on them.

>> No.5476904

>>5476541
>>5476560
>>5476629
Sure, nijisanji could buy a billboard and prepare a good presentation for the people to see. But at the end of the day, it's just an advertisement paid by the vtuber or the company themselves. Cover could do that too. But are there fans crazy enough to sponsor a billboard at Times Square of all places for their oshi? Fans that did that were really happy just to see her reaction. Hololive is way more cooler that way.

>> No.5476911

>>5476804
Marine also has to pay out of her pocket for her project but it look like cover still rejected her project.

>> No.5476934

>>5475564
I have liked anime and stuff since I was little and maybe it's because I'm old now but this is just so cringe to the point it make me feel embarrassed even though I'm not even there in person.

>> No.5476937

>>5476804
>>5476901
This isn't just some simple advertisment on the part of mayuzumi though is it? It's the culmination of some weeks long LARP he has been doing across twitter, youtube and other websites I thought?

>> No.5476988

>>5476937
More like over a year.
>>5475745
>>5475564
It's far more a personal project than an advertisement. The only ad is the word Anycolor in the corner.
>>5476901
But would Cover restrict something like this? If not, then why compare? Mayuzumi is an outlier anyway.

>> No.5477041

>>5476988
I'm not saying they would with regards to this particular idea. But when you're in an environment that encourages and fosters creative freedom it tends to lead to creativity as compared to an environment where people's ideas are getting shot down to the extent they feel the need to leave to be able to express themselves in the way they want.

>> No.5477082

>>5475521
NijiJP is cool but their foreign departments are just as trash as holos

>> No.5477088

>>5476934
It genuinely feel like a chunnibyo going on full display yeah.

>> No.5477093

>>5476904
You shouldn't glorify mental illness anon.

>> No.5477104

>>5475521
What even is Mayuzumi's lore anyway? QRD from anyone following his story closely?

>> No.5477112

>>5475521
I'll try to explain in an easy way for you, in Japan, Nijisanji is the "normie" company, your everyday "Taro Tanaka" watches Nijisanji on their way to work, Hololive japanese fans, are obscure and rare hikkis that never ever leave their houses and have their small apartments filled with cutesy girly stuff or shit (you can see this in any room review)
In the west it's totally the opposite tho, your average "Jhon Doe" watches Hololive on his way to work and the Nijisanji fans are the basement dwellers that think that they'll turn japanese if rhey squint their eyes and eat enough rice

>> No.5477126

>>5477041
That much creative freedom for years only to be caught up by an upstart idol company with a mafia dragon

>> No.5477144

>>5477126
Creative freedom doesn't nessecarily equate to commercial success. Most of the top pop music acts in the world are all massively produced.

>> No.5477148

>>5477112
Kek this

>> No.5477168

>>5477041
what creative freedom does nijisanji have that hololive doesn't?

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