/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>EN

>>54739749
who are they even for. Is it the kiara/bae's multilingual fetish audience? Cause there ain't that many out there.

>>54741274
Comfy as fuck streams

>>54741274
me

>>54739749
>I seriously don't understand
Yeah this is how I felt the entire debut

>>54739749
I agree actually, this was god tier. These girls are absolutely precious in every way.

The whole gen mogs the everloving shit out of myth and council, its fucking insane. Literally all they have to do now is fucking stream and its an autowin.

>>54741274
>>54741832
Is this an ESL problem? They're understandable

>>54739749
They're definitely the closest EN has come to JP kino so far. Make sure you member to them and buy their shit so Cover get the point that we want more of THIS and not Kronii.

>>54739749
I could barely understand what they were saying
there was no downtime, just constant talking and noise
the never-ending-collab angle is a detriment, not a boon
questionable why they are even in EN and not JP
their only """"advantage"""" is how kawaii ugu they are so if you're not into moe moe kyuun they have literally nothing to offer
good singers, though.

>>54739749
Deafchaama......

>>54741274
People who actually like Anime and aren't ironic weebs. The original audience of Hololive.

>>54742844
Why the fuck would you want downtime on a stream

>>54739749
EOPs don't understand cute JP autism

>>54742844
>I could barely understand what they were saying
ESLchama...

>>54742844
Retardchama...

>>54741274
for me nigga

>>54739749
I thought they were annoying not gonna lie. Pretty disappointed after all the hype.

>>54739749
> how is anyone supposed to compete?
by just speaking normally

>>54743454
to process and absorb what's happening instead of constantly moving on to something new. It's the same reason why action scenes that have a thousand cuts and never rest on any given shot for more than 0.24 seconds are generally bad and unreadable.

>>54741274
>who are they even for
Otaku
Now leave.

>>54739749
They are the embodiment of what vtubers are supposed to be about.

>>54742844
I'm ESL and I understood them perfectly fine. Are you brown perhaps?

>>54741274
People with taste like me

>>54744448
Streams are the absolute worst format for that retard, other mediums always have something even in slow scenes, if a streamer has downtime you have literally nothing. Besides that they had to present 2 people in 45 minutes, they had to be fast as fuck, otherwise you got a disaster like some debuts

Nice to have them back, I just hope they don't get ruined by the rest of HoloEN, the retarded fans and the pressures that come with it. For now, ill believe in the first actual HoloEN Idols!

>>54745641
>Besides that they had to present 2 people in 45 minutes, they had to be fast as fuck,
which is why dual debut/channel was a mistake.

>>54742844
>Fuwamoco filtering ESL browns
As if I needed any more reason to watch them

>>54739749
To me I said they are like what would happen if really good Japanese streamers joined HoloEN, and I meant that as an absolute compliment. Very talkative while trying to be entertaining all the time. Very fun IMO.

>>54746097
They'll only have restrictions in their first stream so that's a non problem

>>54739749
actual first Hololive EN vtubers.

>>54741274
they fell into the slot that sana used to occupy in my head

>>54744442
So fucking weird that they refuse to just use their normal voices

>>54742844
>the never-ending-collab angle is a detriment, not a boon
One can read off chat and the other can play a videogame.
Or they both can get double the messages read during zatsu segments.

>>54739749
>BGM too loud
>both speaks like migo but EN
looks cute though

>>54739749
it was fucking shit what are you on about?
>kawaii uguu trash voices
>BAU BAU BAU XD
>barely any actual info about them
ironic how the ones i was most hyped for end up being the worst and the one i had zero hype for ends up second best

>>54741274
really hope they dont speak nip that often
dumb as hell to switch between two languages constantly

>>54744442
>>54747074
Did you watch hololive before EN, just doing a survey

>>54739749
>judging by the debut

newfagchama.....

>>54747378
Not everyone can have good taste, go enjoy your trash in silence and come back in a few years.

>>54742471
Nah, most ESL that watch EN vtubers can understand english pretty well, the problem is the other way around. Having trouble understanding it is just brain damage

>>54747655
Bad debuts can get better but I can't say that anyone with a stellar debut has fallen off, aside from maybe laplus but that was with an specific event

WE FUCKING WON !

>>54741274
People who want to be entertained.

>>54741274
Me who wants the JP experience but in EN

>>54746608
That gave me a laugh.

>>54747787
they are literally just an anime dub

two peaks. bijou is made in the lab kino while the twins literally stared at one slide for like 10 minutes and still managed to be insanely charismatic

>actually treating streaming as a fulltime job
Thank god

>>54741274
>who are they even for.
They speak English and Japanese, there are two of them, and they're cute. That appeals to normal people.
>>54741832
>>54742844
>I could barely understand what they were saying
ESL moment
>there was no downtime
I guess you enjoyed Kronii's debut?
>never-ending-collab angle
Did you actually watch their debut? You sound like you just heard about them on Reddit or Twitter.
>questionable why they are even in EN and not JP
Anya's a worse example, though. ESL or JSL, they speak English better than you do.
>>54747378
>cute voices
>cute bit
Do you like males?
>>54739749
Agreed, OP. Honestly, I was just amazed by their debut. It was probably the best debut I've ever seen, and I thought Bijou had a pretty strong debut for holoEN (in her humorous kind), but FuwaMoco have really shown me what idols are supposed to be. YAGOO's dream restored.

>>54748334
If anime dubs were this good I would watch them, instead they're more like Kronii and Mori

>>54739749
I'm antiing them because their fans are already obnoxious

>>54739749
Fuwamoco is the perfect filter. Anyone complaining, especially about their streaming style, is giving away the fact that they DO NOT WATCH HoloJP. Their style is the epitome of the HoloJP streaming that many OG's fell in love with.

I hope they do many JP collabs or better yet join hololive JP at one point

What

>>54748559
a moeshit anime dub, the worst kind of dub

>>54748777
This. Myth babies can't comprehend.

>>54748777
Pretty much, all complaints boil down to
>they're too anime
The ESL complaint is valid but they're perfectly understandable, Miko is less understandable in her own language

>>54748559
Exactly right
>54748334
Get a new hearing aid then go check out most of EN and twitch Vtubers to hear anivoice

>>54739749
If you don't like that they're trying to be as *idol culture* as then can be, then hololive isn't for you. That's unironically how hololive SHOULD be

>>54749090
Yeah, but their ESL-ness can be fixed with a little volume adjustment--I really think that that's all they need in that department.

>>54748882
I was ready to end it all, until I saw that I can watch the early streams in EU, and the late ones on weekends

>>54739749
it was bloody amazing, I love them so much already

>>54742471
im EU and I have 0 problems with them, I think its a SEA problem desu

>>54739749
Prepare for the comfiest and most wholesome streams in holoEN or all of hololive....they're going to reach 1mil first without a doubt.

>>54739749
Not only did they have the best debut but they're the hololive member with the highest percentage of (white) women viewers in all of holoproduction, including the homos

>>54742844
>there was no downtime, just constant talking and noise
Most ppl tend to complain ABOUT the downtime kek, are you trying too hard to find stuff to complain about anon?

>>54741274
>Cause there ain't that many out there.
Dumbass

>>54742844
If you want downtime go watch Kronii.

>>54739749
they had the best debut out of all the holo en girls so far

>>54750402
>Nerissa third lowest
What is wrong with 4chan's taste

>>54742844
You sound like a faggot

>>54742471
As an ESL I can confirm that I had no issue.
>>54747849 is pretty much on the money. Dogs just aren't for brainlets.

>>54741274
people who want to watch cute girls being cute

>Fuwawa couldn't get her wawa nickname due to Kiara having Kiwawa already

>>54750402
If /vt/ mattered Shondo would be the biggest indie in EN. People here will say they're great and then not watch them

>>54739749
Mogged by the dogs.

>>54753268
If Kiara had as many subscribers as posts about how good she was...

>>54741274
for me nigga now gtfo

>>54739749
I don't feel the same way.

>>54751171
Nerissa is everyone's second fave I think

You might as well watch streams of keys jingling if you find this shit entertaining.

>>54753226
Why is she called kiwawa anyways? That’s retarded

>>54753702
Good. Get filtered and go back to your thread or Discord Nijifag.

FuWayWay

>>54754109
Cool opinion, now shoo back off to watch your niji whores and man sluts now

>>54753268
Just stop already, anon

>>54746235
Kek

IMO they would be better if they didn't use the uwu voice but we've seen the girls change to their natural voices over time. Ruffians should go kill KFPiss so Fuwawa can get Wawa as her nickname.

>>54748777
Exactly, it's like a translated JP stream which is exactly what I was expecting and is needed in EN.

>>54754993
Trends are partly curtailed to your account anon.

>>54739749
bro, stop lying to urself.
mococo is fine
but jesus fuwawa turn up your voice while speaking

While I like them, they tend to mumble and not pronounce their words clearly. It might be a larp but I find them harder to listen to.
The JP vocal was crisp. The EN they spoke was not.

>>54739749
you can tell they have a lot of experience. really strong presence. loved their cute idol-like message about how they're gonna protect our smiles and stuff too. anyone complaining about ENs not having had any idols should watch these.

>>54753268
shondo is one of the biggest indies though...

>>54742844
If you're not into moe moe kyun~, you shouldn't be watching vtubers.

Fuck off.

>sorry for the mixup guys, FUWAMOCO will be going to JP. Please understand.

>>54739900
FPWP

>>54742844
genuinely retarded

>>54748882
>donkey kong country
pretty based

>>54742844
you probably shouldn't brag about not being able to understand english, SEA-kun.

>>54753226
Retard they used that excuse so the other one don't end up being caled "coco" who would end up being a much bigger red flag.

Shioris bored me half to death but at least I watched it all. These two actually made me get up and leave because it felt like I was watching something for a 3 year old. You have to be seriously autistic if you enjoyed the bau bau key jingling randomly

I really enjoyed their debut, they were really adorable!

>>54757169
She could just use momo

>>54739749
The dogs were the only ones I was excited for and the only ones I subscribed to after debut but even I have to admit the rockcunny had a better debut stream.
Not gonna tribalfag, but looking objectively at just the debut stream the dogs were only second best

>>54742471
>Is this an ESL problem?
Yes. Seanogs that "learn" English think they're hot shit in their shitpiles that've coalesced into nations by the grace of Western, and mostly British, imperialism. They're less fluent compared with a black South African or fucking Kenyan but will mercilessly roast anyone that makes so much as a typo with
>ESL ESL ESL REEEEE!
disgusting.

>>54742471
ESL here, I get what they say just fine. Their nip is easier to understand though.

They're everything I've been asking for.
Cute and adorable girls who actually know how to play a character and do kayfabe and act super cute and make cute noises.
It's the JP Holo experience, but in english.
And we didn't just get one but two, so every stream is like a cute collab. And they do all the /u/ pandering and they even did a cute pledge to their fans.
They are adorable and I love them.

>>54756823
>1.3K average
Same average as Geega btw.
>who
yeah exactly

My wives

>>54739749
>how is anyone supposed to compete?
speak intelligible non baby english

I can understand them for the most part, but the BGM was too high.
That's easily fixable and a non-issue in the grand scheme of things.

>>54742471
ESLs listen to other ESLs all throughout highschool and college. The only ones struggling to understand the twins are burgers who can't even get one language right.

They are perfect. I couldn't believe how good it was.

>>54758366
geega is a well-known ligger. what are you talking about?

>>54754585
>AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE IS A DISCORD NIJI HEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEEEEE DIAMOND DOGS
sad

>>54739749
>Work perfectly as a duo
>Adorable as fuck
>Do everything you would expect someone in Hololive would do
>Stream at EU friendly hours
>Filter SEA scum
They aren't just saving EN, they are saving vtubing as a whole.

>>54754585
>spergs out immediately after someone disagrees
mentally ill. Also shit thread. Kys aids spreader

>>54739749
I will watch them, but I'm going to have to do it in VODs because I'll need the subs.

>>54746638
Is the universe fun again for you anon?

>>54758780
we've gone from "the biggest" to "one of the biggest" to just "well-known".

>>54754993
KWAB

They are almost unintelligible. Nothing to do with language, it's the retarded voice they put on that has them mumbling constantly.

>>54748882
They stream

>>54759748
Mumbling? Just sounds like them repeating the thing they said in Japanese to me or having a follow up to said statement in Japanese. The English sounds pretty good for Japanese to English speakers IMO.

>>54758615
I don't get what the issue with understanding them is, with English as my first language and studying Japanese. Their accents aren't strong and it's not even that hard to tell their voices apart, as far as twins go.

>>54759492
yes, because you started talking about geega out of nowhere, pretending she's unknown? holy fucking shit, you're retarded

>>54760141
Yeah, they were just repeating basic stuff in Japanese from time to time. Basic enough that I understood most of it - like, you will learn most of this stuff in your first year of studying the language.

>>54748777
Yep. Get filtered fucking newfags.

>>54739749
do they not want to go for JP auditions? i dont get it

>>54760768
>first year of studying
its shit you get from watching anime, even

Good thing a majority of of the fans have good taste and don't want a second Calli or a second Kronii.

>>54760141
>>54760768
No, retards. They don't open their mouth enough when they talk. No one cares about your duolingo adventures.

Okay, I gave it a honest try and I accept it: Hololive just isn’t for me. I don’t understand the appeal at all.

>>54761457
Sounds like you have more of a problem with the models not animating well rather than them being able to talk English well. I'd like to hear how you sound on a vocaroo.

They made Gura look mid

don't encourage bad mic-settings and mumbling by making it a badge of honor to understand them with those obstacles.
If you compare them to any of the other members, it's clear they can improve in their sound department.
Has nothing to do with being ESL or not.

>>54761583
Sounds like you are an imbecile, to think about the model at all.

>>54761667
No vocaroo? No proofs of your proper authority on the language.

>>54739749
Why are grown white canadian (according to themselves, not a dox) women babbling in a fake japanese accent? It's only cute when actual japanese girls do it, not maple whales.