/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

That’s correct, OP.

>>54451435
Welcome one of Eilene family to Hololive.

>>54451435
she boring

>>54451435
Been away for a few days, so she's in? And vt is bandwagoning on her being a bad hire or something? I don't remember her being a bad chuuba in any particular way.

What credentials? Leeching Eilene's subs?

>>54451435
Fit is important, plus loserbait(omega) was on her writing/translation team which is a red flag.

>>54451744
Current evidence points to her being Shiori.
>>54403739
>>54424274
>>54424719
>>54425051
As for her being a bad hire? Most anons would say that in two years, they'd hope there was a better hire than "an ok" hire.
Also some more obvious antis are saying things like she collabed with troons and males before.

>>54451758
>loserbait(omega)
He's Omega, Ina's boyfriend is Omega, Altare is Omega - are there any OTHER Omegas I should know about?!

>>54451435
Not with that voice no. Let's hope she changes it this time

>>54451435
Let's just say there's a reason she's been a 2view for over 8 years

>>54451435
I'm sure she'll be able to fit in perfectly. She's always been sweet and friendly, and a reincarnation into Hololive presents a fresh start. Anons are just doomposting about her past content even though none of it has been damning by any metric.

>>54451435
Watch every ex-teamate prop her up as the new LA CREATIVIDAD as soon as debut day.

No deserves it more than her.

>>54452204
retard

>>54451435
>credentials
Kek

i wonder how many threads that devlove into "wow this is actually a pretty nice hire if true" catalog sisters need before realizing they should stop the forced doomposting

>>54452143
Oh, and how long was Koyori's roommate a 2view?

>>54452853
It's not doom, she just seems boring. If that Mom0ki actually gets in, that might be a bit worse.

>>54453198
Ok but she's got actual singing talent?
At worst she's just a second Mori that provides nothing but good things for Hololive as a brand.

>>54452853
It was seadog hours. You could convince them it's 9/11 just by using the word nigger enough

>>54453248
How the fuck would someone with actual pro voice/character acting chops and seems to have been a Hololive fan for quite some time be bad?

>>54452853
From just the videos that got posted here I think she's ok, probably better than the average holoEN hire even.
Most anons are just disappointed in the gap between what they were expecting from Shiori's model and what this Moe girl seems to be. Which might be inevitable to a degree given the expectations.
I'm still giving her a chance, obviously.

>>54453353
I don't know? Ask the anon that said she'd be worse than Moe?
Like the only thing I can remotely come up with is that she joined the vtuber train late and didn't start as a vtuber, or that she's had voice calls with Ike from NijiEN

>>54451945
Altare is the only one that was just a shitpost.

so if the rrats are true, Hololive got
>actual idol sisters as the twins
>lifelong holofan and professional singer as the vsinger
>one of the most experienced vtubers in the western world as the gen leader (at least based on lore)
>a fromsoft autist with a good loli voice as the rock loli

that's pretty fucking good

>>54453469
It is. But vt has this weird obsession with male collabs that the vsinger and the experienced western vtuber have done before.

Long as they stream and collab regularly (not males), I'll be happy

>>54451435
No cause I'm a huge faggot who has been watching vtubers for longer than 99.99% of /vt/ and she's fucking boring

>>54451435
I wouldn't hire her because she's got a boring Nyanners clone voice. But maybe she'll do a different voice as a Holo.

>>54453684
>weird obsession
/vt/ knows male collabs are ruinous and doesn't want EN3 to be crippled by them

>>54453469
>a fromsoft autist
She just played the Souls games which is something that's pretty common among twitch vtubers.

>>54451435
I actually don’t mind her too much, but I don’t like her voice. I don’t know how it’s going to fit her new model assuming it’s her.

>>54454173
https://youtu.be/aVfoC1EHlVs

>>54454173
Moe was a character voice. Her natural voice is deeper and she could go even deeper than that for a new character. Not saying she will, but she might.

>>54454042
>/vt/ knows male collabs are ruinous and doesn't want EN3 to be crippled by them
That's definitely not why they care about it so much

>>54453684
having done it before doesn't mean they'll necessairily do it within Hololive, where it will inevitably hurt their numbas
but as long as they're upfront about it from the get go i don't see the issue, Bae doesn't get hate for liking homos

>>54454069
i was just skimming through her twitter
she played DS3 as her first AND final game (beating the whole game in 9 hours in the latter occasion), and there's a LOT of Elden Ring and DS on there
if not an autist, she's at least a big fan

>>54454453
It definitely is

>>54454453
that's the reason numberniggers don't like them
then there's CGDCTfags, who don't want males in their 2.5D moe anime
and finally unicorns, but those are a minority within a minority, and it's evident from the fact Fauna is so beloved here

>>54451435
>OG western Vtuber whore who couldn't pop off by herself for 5 whole years
I wonder if she's good enough to join Hololive... Maybe they just picked her up just because she is an OG, she's lackluster in every single thing she did as Moe.

>>54453262
What do I have to do with this?

>>54454808
dude if it turns out they hired Yua for JP7 you niggers would be jumping for the moon

>>54454453
NTA. It is for me and chuubas like Kiara. The girls gain nothing from those collabs even Kronii realised that they weren't really 'fun' in the end.

>>54454925
Same for akari

>>54454925
Are you talking shit about YUA?

>>54451435
She has 0 drive or desire to be a idol

>>54455358
yes, whatcha going to do about it?

People like to doompost about momoki but looking at her tweeter and channel, she seems to write her own songs and has high music production like mori. That's a valuable and important skill to cover.

>>54455507
Reminisce about the past and wonder what could have been

>>54454434
Oh ok, I dont care about how their past lives were behaving , but voice matching the model is a big deal for me.
Its also why I didnt quite understand why sone people thought moeblob Beryl would fit the raven girl.
Now if they are going to use a voice they didnt use in their past life, how do you confirm?

>>54451945
I'm Omega

>>54455542
She's another Mori. Which is why /vt/ seethes, but she will be a great addition musically to EN.

>>54456086
Usually it's still pretty obvious. Compare old Suisei to nu Suisei.

>>54455802
>and wonder what could have been
100k subs

>>54451866
>antis are saying things like she collabed with troons and males before
I mean is that true?
If yes that‘s certainly concerning and a major red flag

>>54454925
God I wish... She's too good for Cover.

>>54456326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNBZ11v4d0w

>>54456222
nijinigger

>>54453469
>lifelong holofan
How the fuck can an adult be a lifelong fan of something that’s only been around for half a decade?

>>54456406
oh my god that's painful. she's lower effort than kronii, at least in that video. is that her normal?

>>54456409
Huh? I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

>>54456463
how would you say "fan of Hololive since its inception"?
and i mean HoloEN, should have specified

Yagoo should recruit pmaru, shiro, ai and akari to pay respect to the legacy vtubers.

>>54455284
I'd love to see her unshackled

>>54457184
He wishes he could recruit pmaru.

>>54451746
>>54451656
Oh she has some schizos from her previous life? Guess I can disregard these complaints.

>>54451746
>>54451656
Who the hell still cares about Eilene in the year of our Lord 2023?

>>54457300
>>54457848
she LITERALLY inherited Eilene's channel and thats where her subs that she got hired on came from

>>54455542
>>54459141
Theres effectively zero proof whatsoever that either of them are who people are claiming. Some incredibly weak sauce nothing bits of "evidence" means jack shit. We can't know anything definitive until their actual debut and we hear them talk. It's always been this way. It's utterly worthless to assume who is who until their actual debuts.

>>54451435
Working with post-ENTUM Eilene is not a "credential", it's a stain on your reputation

>>54454453
That litteraly 99% of the people who don't want male collab anon. But using the 1% who sperg out is far better for headcannons of some homobeggar. Even respectable holostars fan would probably vote for a separation of stars and live and would be the actual true holostars fan who love holostars and think of what is the best for them.

>>54452143
Her issue was not promoting herself really well. Comdost was not a good manager, there's a reason why they split up and do their seperate thing on Twitch now. She didn't really have someone to actually do all the leg work of making her known. She also only had one person as an active stream mod.

She also had the issue with the YouTube channel, and this was brought up on the last YouTube stream - she did not own the channel. If it got hacked (as what had happened with the Yomemi / Moemi channel), everything would be killed off and never to return. She made a new YouTube channel (Raven Manor) but again, not promoted so much, so most people assumed she was done a long time ago.

Like sure you can get upset that your oshi isn't the one being Shiori but if it is actually Moe, I guarantee you that you will be comfortable with her content and have a good time with it. Just because she is a male collabber doesn't mean she isn't worth watching. Also remember that unlike others who were falling in views and stuff, she never clinged onto VShojo to stay relevant. Give that girl a fucking medal for doing that.

Just give her a chance. And if it isn't Moe well maybe she got a small corpo gig or something. You wouldn't say no to her in Phase Connect for example, right? They could do with a seasoned veteran. A new character, separate from Moe, is probably what she needs to move on from all the bad that happened over the years. And I'd give credit that she'd give it a go rather than those who just disappear for good.

Might do a Q&A thread later as someone who watched her for a few years. So many people getting pissy about it and it's just sad.

>>54460457
Also....Moe is probably a good example of someone who ideally wanted to do everything on her own, but there were some things that she needed help with. The stuff she can do on her own is pretty impressive though. If she sticks to learning Unity you'll get some good streams out of that.

>>54460457
I really am fine with everything about her content and such. But the voice, dude. If the first word she utters is made using that high-pitched kawaii uguu anime voice, it's an instant drop.

>>54460457
>So many people getting pissy
90% of them are just shitposters pretending to be upset for a lark anon

>>54460457
>Just because she is a male collabber doesn't mean she isn't worth watching
Actually that's exactly what it means. But as long as she respects Hololive and doesn't collab with males while she's a member of Holo EN then whatever she did in the past doesn't matter and everything is fine.

>>54460621
I'm thinking she might put on a different voice (maybe her IRL one) but her mannerisms will just give it away.
Just remember, she still has a discord server for Moe, even if it's been locked down.
Also Moe's stream times were fairly different and if she does what she did before, EUbros are gonna be happy to have someone to watch.

>>54459141
I don't know who the fuck that is. Doesn't affect anything for me but let me know she has unhinged schizos.

>>54451945
i feel like there are so many rrats that i cannot differentiate the fake and the real anymore.

it's even funnier with omega, because we know nothing about them. one person or multiple, male or female, or even what fucking happened, everything is speculation. that makes this board even more schizo.

>>54460835
Only retards dont know who omega is. Its a music director the rest is meaningless.
Did you know that the HoloX music director also graduated a couple of months ago? Of course you dont, you're a catalog dramatranny

>>54452204
God i hope she steals Amelia's only "talent" so she has nothing left to stand out.

>>54451435
Would you hire 2 views who trauma dump in Hololive?

>>54461027
Her trauma dumping wasn't bad, I've seen indie schizos who are far worse who would do nothing but bitch and complain about their life.

>>54454808
>Western vtuber whore who couldn't pop off by herself for 5 whole years.
Are we talking about Ame?

Somehow I wonder how this shit was acceptable back in the day, but then again we have shit like Zentreya now.

>>54460457
>Also remember that unlike others who were falling in views and stuff, she never clinged onto VShojo to stay relevant. Give that girl a fucking medal for doing that.
She is pretty based. Still remember that she exposed the clout chasing "VTuber interviewer" by changing her own wiki entry and he basically just read shit from there

>>54460941
>>54461167
>random ame seethe
rent free

>>54461282
Yeah I fucking hated that interview. I felt bad for her because that interview should have went differently and she could have got something out of it.
Sure she probably found it humorous that everything came from the wiki but come on it's just not how an interview should be. I know the guy interviewed Pikamee afterwards and it was a lot better but I feel the guy should have tried to make up for doing bad to Moe.
>>54461221
And you can say thanks to Comdost for their TTS stuff by the way.

>>54461221
the early days of vtubing were fucking wild man. For a brief period we even had people using models that looked like copyrighted characters. I recall a fairly famous one that used an avatar of the cyborg ninja from metal gear

>>54460457
How are her usual streams like? What's the dead air / actually talking ratio? Does she have any wit / snap with her words? Or are they the usual boring 'commentary' of "I like this.", "Ooohh.", "Wooow" present in those who don't know how to carry a conversation?

>>54461298
Defute it

>>54460457
i dont care, collab with males= whore, simple as

>>54453469
>>one of the most experienced vtubers
a very mediocre one at that considering how fucking much of a literal who she ever was

>>54463656
If you watched VTubers in 2018 then you were watching Moe, she was the only relevant EN one until Myth debuted.

>>54464108
Shiro...AI....

>>54464108
Just because there was nothing else doesn't make it good
>you are literally one of the very few EN vtubers
>people would rather watch Korone "ugufgugug aasdhasda OH MY WUWU" random noise instead
basically, she was shit

>>54464140
Not EN.

>>54464222
Who's (ASMR) videos were getting millions of views.

>>54464286
well true but AI did have subbed videos

>>54464432
>ASMR

>>54460457
Is she a virgin?

>>54464222
You know who else had less English speaking viewers than Korone on her streams?

>>54464473
>I don't like ASMR so she's irrelevant
She was the biggest EN VTuber from 2018 to 2020, that's the reality.

>>54459141
She made her own channel called Raven Manor later

>>54460621
Considering the huge difference in theme between the models, and assuming the experience she should have translates into common sense, she will go with more fitting voice, especially during early days when vtubers stick to their character more.

>>54451435
Anyone saying no is a seething 2view that didn't pass the interviews

>>54465821
>its ok to settle for someone that stayed a 2view for several years
>its not ok to hope for better
>you're a seething 2view if you hoped that someone more fitting with hololives brand got in instead of someone that collabed with males and troons
ogey.

>>54466050
>i-it should've been me!
Seethe 2view

>>54466132
>mentions 2view when another 2view got in

>>54466185
The difference is that she got in

>>54453786
Why is the bar so low? shouldn't people expect more of the biggest vtuber agency in the world after not getting a generation for 2 years?

>>54451866
thank you for posting this, I was allowing my self to be convinced by other rrats but this is impossible to ignore

>>54466816
why would people care for content quality of someone they wish to treat like a free virtual escort?

>>54454808
She's one of the biggest western vtubers you don't know what you're talking about, if anything you should be glad she got in Holo

>>54467173
>She's one of the biggest western vtubers
What was her ccv?

>>54467173
Was. I like her, but let's not get carried away.

Why does 4chan and /vt/ HATE Natsumi Moe?

>>54466948
kek, it's basically the same exact image too. I wonder if she had to request permission from Cover to do this.

ITS FUCKING OVER
SHE IS NATSUMI MOE I SHOULDNT HAVE BOUGHT INTO THE HYPE
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUFKFUFFICKFUCKFUCKFUFKFUFKFUFKFUFJFUF

>>54467358
/here/tuber whose only noteworthy attribute was being there relatively early

>>54466948
So she left a clue

>>54467392
oh nyo

>>54467257
She got huge numbers on videos at first but her CCV was around ~100

>>54467358
Well before /vt/ existed, vtubers were only a japanese thing. It was normal to hate eilene and EOPs.

>>54460457
>Just because she is a male collabber doesn't mean she isn't worth watching.
>Looks at NIjiEN
....uhh, sure

>>54460457
>She also only had one person as an active stream mod
Biggest red flag I've read so far, will watch debut but definitely not oshi material

>>54466948
That’s the exact same fucking image too. You have to be coping hard to say it’s not her

>>54466948
That would be reason enough to fire her if it was on purpose.

>>54467392
As the anon that went and compiled the list of evidence.
So what? Art is smoking hot and she can always change or play the character right. At the very worst her porn will be good.

https://youtu.be/w3klAmaB278

>>54467431
I only remember her ASMR videos getting 1 million+ then her normal videos at 10k

>>54467583
>>54467431
>>54467396
She is literally a /here/tuber and you niggers HATE HER?
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU WE HAVE FINALLY A 3RD HOLO TALENT FROM /here/ AND YOU ARE CRINGING OVER IT

>>54467622
>She is literally a /here/tuber and you niggers HATE HER?
Anon I'm not sure how to tell you this but most people here hate /here/tubers unless they very vaguely dogwhistle old memes

>/here/tuber
is this real?

>>54467709
wake up

>>54451435
Does she have a boyfriend that isn't me?

>>54467622
You know who else was a /here/tuber? Vesper.
Even did his oldfag 4chan memes stream.

>>54467622
I very much doubt there are many people still around from when she was active on /jp/. It was over 5 years ago.

>>54467622
How is she a /here/tuber?

>>54467762
If you're psycho enough to count male collabs as dates, then probably.

>>54467781
I STILL don't see anything bad from Vesper. I do not watch him nor I support him but I think the claims are really retarded.

>>54467785
>>54467707
I was there and I'm glad Natsumi if the schizo is real, is joining Holo. Why can't you people be happy?

>>54467735
what? is she or not?

>>54467892
>Why can't you people be happy?
I'm the anon that compiled the evidence into one post.
Don't get me wrong, I am pretty happy that holo got a solid pick. But I do see some anons saying they had 2 years to pick someone better.

>>54462993
Plenty of talking. If it's a horror game there'll be screaming. She's a variety streamer so you will find something to watch.
>>54463122
She boys she collabed with in the past like Pending are literally inoffensive.
>>54464579
How the fuck would I know? She's had online boyfriends in the past through chat rooms and has been open about that and even made a video about it.
>>54467373
Didn't Gura slide in an inside joke for her debut thumbnail? I don't think Cover give a fuck. It's just a little fanservice to those in the know.
>>54467466
It won't be an issue this time but yeah there was literally one guy who was one of her friends and was a 2view himself until he disappeared due to health issues. He got replaced with one of his own mods. Not sure why she never wanted to mod anyone else like a few of the regulars who always showed up.
>>54467583
Moe said a few times since then that she didn't want to make it a reoccurring thing like others were doing react streams to, she only read the first chapter and then brought up CWC fucking his mother. Obviously a shot at Lilybelle who had CWC documentary reaction streams as a regular thing.

>>54467709
>>54467937
>Eilene was one of the world's first Virtual YouTubers.
>Due to her long history and involvement in many projects in the VTuber world, 4chan's anonymous users on the /jp/ board have an ever-expanding "List of Eilene's crimes" that includes everything from the likely true (making Mirai Akari wear a thong) to the ridiculous (causing Fumino Tamaki's Leukoplakia condition, a risk of cancer).
>On 31 July 2018 she created another VTuber, the English-speaking Natsumi Moe.
>Moe used to be known for cursing constantly on her YouTube videos. Her greetings included;" What's Up, Fuckers?", and "Welcome aboard the Moe Train!"
>Moe's best friend is VTPending.
Pretty associated with a /jp/sie.

Moe was great she just went through a lot of shit and knew the insides out of most of the western vtubing community, she was just jaded but kept going. Hololive will allow her to shine brighter than ever and she'll prove all of you wrong

>>54468273
>Didn't Gura slide in an inside joke for her debut thumbnail?
An inside joke during your Holo debut is very different from using an actual image asset owned by your new company in one of your old personal account videos

>>54467583
We got our own Pippa... I don't know how to feel about this

>>54468273
In your heart of hearts, is there any room for doubt that Shiori is NOT Moe?
Also the others?

>>54468596
>Pippa
More like Lia

>>54468628
There are of course other people who graduated in a similar timeframe like Harune.
Unlike Moe, she publicly announced she was graduating. Another OG and reasonable as a streamer.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1771230317
Harune was also part of that random Bilibili group that Moe was in that lasted like a month before it just stopped.

>>54468273
Who's lilybelle?

>>54468719
So could this girl also possibly be Shiori or do the rrats regarding Pending paint it as Moe more?

>>54468719
I thought they were the same person

>>54453469
>fromsoft autist
which Kings Field games has she streamed? which Armored Core game is her favorite?

>>54468628
I don't think Shiori is Moe.

>>54468752
https://www.twitch.tv/lilybelle
or you could have just googled
>>54468826
I'm not really sure that a felt doll is enough to prove that it's her but I wouldn't be surprised if he had been told about it.
https://twitter.com/PendingV/media
You can see he makes felt dolls of a lot of things. It's just his hobby.

Remember, the main reason why people suddenly speculated it was Moe was that her Discord server suddenly closed to new invites.

>>54468561
funny you say that considering gura did both

>>54468561
NTA but Moe used it since over 2 years ago. It's either a stock image or she put her own asset into the Holo intro.

She lives with two black and white cats by the way. I would expect they would be called something else though, or she doesn't show any pictures of them.

>>54467358
No one hates her, just disappointed about that voice coming out of the Shiori avatar.

>>54469026
If she's also done that then cool, I wasn't aware of that.
>>54469030
The video I saw is 1 month old, did she use it somewhere else too?

>>54451435
Doing it first doesn't mean she did it better

>>54469267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgdJ4xBaFtY

>>54468459
Well at least her debut is will be going to be good considering short-form creatividad content is her specialty.

>>54469598
Dogwhistle, or easily found asset by googling "eyes"?

>>54469201
Maybe she will use her natural voice

>>54465136
Raven Manor has 14k subs, this isnt helping her cause

>>54468719
Oh yeah, I guess she fits too huh? We'll find out tomorrow either way though.

>>54471785
It was just her and her friends there, she wasn't trying to be big or anything. It's one of the reasons I strongly doubt she's joining Hololive.

>>54467622
Anon the last /here/tuber just drank her piss on stream, we dont need more of that

>Forbidden knowledge actually just means being a /here/tuber

its over

>>54472192
Yes

Ppl are just mad that she got the sex model. If she had any other it wouldn't be a problem

>>54451435
ye, i dont want vshoujo here

Is she a hag?

>>54451435
FUCK NO
her video on chris-chan made her sound like the normalest of normalfags to ever normalfag. she sounded like she’d never seen the more autistic parts of the internet before and she can’t meme for shit
No way, I don’t want that.

This board loves to shit on male collabs that they have no clue their so called "unspoiled" treasure Gura collabs w/ males during her Senzawa days. Literal hypocrites.

>>54477168
>he doesn't know that /vt/ knows

>>54467515
Mori did the same thing.

I hope it's not her man, she's nice but HoloEN has enough nice girls. What it really needs are some wilder girls or some sexier girls.
And with the models of EN3 they would be wasting a great chance if they had an average nice girl use the menhera goth sex bitch character or the goth mommy.
Moe is nice but she's boring as fuck.

>>54453469
>professional singer as the vsinger
People have say the same about Irys, and see her Music losing in number against a Gura playing icecream game.

Just doing Music without following idol route dont work in holo.
JUST LOOK IRYS SONGS BEFORE AND AFTER JOINING MORI CLIQUE

>>54477168
Hey buddy were you in prison since 2020? You’re not even regurgitating the latest memes

>>54477292
your giving too much credits to the anons here in /vt/. I can photoshop an image, paste it here and some anons will fall for it and spread it like its a fact.

>>54466948
its actually incredibly easy to ignore because it means nothing. Until she actually debuts and we hear her voice/see her likes and dislikes, any rrat on who the person is is basically schizo rrat posting. Unless there's a colossal yab like with Nene that doxx's the entire gen it's retarded to claim definitively that any of the EN3 girls are anybody right now. Wait till debut.

If it's Natsumi Moe then I hope she bring in Eilene for a collab.

>>54478443
>actual common sense
oh so it does exist on here

>>54452143
Because of the youtube algorithm?

>>54454042
Well, Gura started as a Nyanners clone too and she turned out to be a CGDCT chad who mogged that hypocrite.

>>54479107
She didn't even want to stream on youtube.

>>54477709
You are forgetting that most of the most beloved JPs like Korone, Aqua and Fubuki etc are very soft, cuddly mellow girls. They can be teases without being edgy like Pekora. Holos usually aren't wild or depraved, but there have been some exceptions like Marine and Matsuri etc. Moe is a good fit for Holo's mostly-seiso leaning. Other corpos, indies etc mock seiso sometimes - because they can't do it. They don't have that calm nature to them and want to just be loud shameless attention whores and proudly project out lowlife loser attitudes looking for validation. Being reserved, having common decency etc are not common traits vs being loud and irreverent. So the balance point is finding a girl who is fine being a star of attention but alsl doesn't use it as a platform to lecture from or get high on the attention from it and that is pretty much exactly what Moe is.

Moe also predates the later waves of twitch indies being just plain actual ethots and fucking shameless soft-porn coomerbaiters that would make Marine blush. She came from a space where vtubing was not expected to be a big bucks showy deal and was something you literally just did for fun. She stuck it out for years and years disregarding trends coming and going. Out of everything that exists today for alternatives, I fucking dare you to tell me she is not a good fit. Is she the most bombastic loud "me me me" talent? Nope. But she also has almost none of the drawbacks the more recent types of conceited, arrogant short-temper attention whores looking for instant validation come with either. She is stable, reasonable, dependable. EN needs more people exactly like that. I'm glad it's her.

>>54479425
Just because she is not a terrible western thot that doesn't instantly make her a good entertainer.

>>54460457
As long as she’s not VShojo tier and doesn’t associate with ecelebs I’ll be fine.

>>54479523
I'd rather it be her than a thot, you can say as a big tl;dr. Maybe you wouldn't, but I would. Holo does not need more ethots, a plain vanilla but appropriate acceptable girl on the plate is better than an ethot shitting in the pool with ignorant hottakes and clapbacks.

>>54479425
Yeah I get that but a this point HoloEN needs a wilder girl more than it needs a seiso girl.
Ame might have her gremlin moments but overall she's a very calm and shy girl.
Ina is very chill and seiso.
Mori is also quite chill and seiso most of the time.
Kiara is a little degenerate and high energy but she's still mostly seiso.
Gura is a bit of a smug gremlin but she's still quite seiso and chill.
Fauna is very chill and very seiso and nice and warm.
Mumei is also very chill and seiso.
See where I'm going? HoloEN has no one like Marine or a Matsuri or even a Noel or a Mel.
And just look at their fucking designs, they are made for an edgier girl.
If you wanted soft cuddly seiso nice girls you are getting two of them with the dog girls already, they are even very similar to Korone in design too.

>>54480173
Japanese sluts are tasteful. Western sluts are disgusting. Dmitri knows what he's doing.

>>54480173
>Fauna is very chill and very seiso
Nice so you don't watch Fauna streams got it. Only people who've never watched Fauna would claim that. Fauna is extremely degen, she just hides it behind her playful nature. She knows exactly what she's doing and will lewdbait super hard when she's feeling it.
>Kronii
Also lewdbaits a lot and can be really horny when she's drunk or in a special mood for it.
>Kiara
I mean, she's gotten openly wet on stream over female characters in games, told Gura they could make out on stream, and mentioned wanting to shave Mumei on stream. She's more degen than you're claiming
>Mumei
she's quirky and weird but she has her moments too. She gets especially horny for certain lewd art and she'll show it when it happens
Like EN is nowhere near the Seiso level you're claiming.

I've been out of the loop for a while. What actual hints are there to her being Moe? I'd be ecstatic if true, I've always loved Eilene and her family

>>54479609
She distanced herself from vshojo and didn't want any part of that clique.

But ironlung will probably want her on her show...

Moe could honestly be not that bad. From the stuff I have seen of her. There are glimpses of a fun crazy girl in there somewhere. I feel like she probably gave up at some point and has just been coasting until now. But now if its her she just got the golden ticket and and won the model gacha to boot. Moe if you are here and I know chuubas come on here whether they admit it or not. Don't use your Moe voice for Shiori. A pitched up voice like that won't work. Use your normal voice or pitch it a bit lower if you don't want it to be that recognizable. See here at 3:00 minutes for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w03DrX0X6-Y . Regardless I will watch and give you a chance. Its up to you how much effort you want to put in to get back. You have been around for a while and I'm sure you know what the Hololive fanbase is and wants. All you have to do is give them a bit of that and you will crush it in everything. The stars have aligned everything is there. Its up to you how well you get received. All we schizos can do at this point is watch and see If you figured it out. Good luck.

I completely forgot about her but if it's true then it's time to rev up those old /jp/ vocaroos she did. Asking you to stir up her cunny with her voice is gonna be canon soon kek

>>54481456
basically nothing anon. It's a single picture being similar that's it. We've not even heard her talk or seen her debut yet. It's worthless rrats until her actual debut.

>>54481612
>I completely forgot about her but if it's true then it's time to rev up those old /jp/ vocaroos she did. Asking you to stir up her cunny with her voice is gonna be canon soon kek

I forgot about her loli pissing audios.

>>54481610
Damn i'm surprised if thats her natural voice this model would actually work really well

>>54479639
Hana....

>>54481610
Could work.

>>54460457
>>54479425
if this true, then I would be glad if she's in.
Idc if she does male collab as long it's professional and doing it sparsely like other male collaber holoEN (regardless what this board wants to gaslight you, most male collaber girls do it rarely & they aren't flirting).
I just want girls who actually passionate with content-creating and stream regularly too.
I hope she does a bunch of gimmicky stream like HoloJP did with their fun RP gimmick stuff.

>>54451435
This board wouldn't have hired Gura either, let that sink in.

>>54461221
>eileen
good times, when moe came around and started releasing asmr it was groundbreaking. specially the 360 vr one

PLAP Moe (vr 360)

>>54461221
Good old days. Please come back eilene

>>54480829
I watch Fauna and I have no idea what you mean, whatever degen she has she's hiding it well and only releasing it in few streams which basically invalidates her for this sort of role anyway.
This isn't about the girls having some fun sexy side, it's about them embracing it and really representing that aspect of vtubing in HoloEN.
None of them do.
Kiara is horny for other girls but she's not a tease herself.

take care of her you fags, she's a sweet girl who's also been /oneofus/ terminally online during the good times. if she is really moe then we will have a legit OG vtuber (la reincarnasyon holo forma) in holoEN.

>>54484104
I doubt she will appease the unicorns but having watched her occasionally for years any male collabs she has done have been entirely harmless and professional.
It's hard to say if she will jump back on doing projects or fall back into just regular streams.
Comdost despite being a bad manager did help make projects happen so who knows what's possible with a good manager.

>>54467622
chris chan isn't here after 2013, it's literally edgy reddit kids material nowaday

>>54452853
Success breeds jealousy. Just look at how many 2views nobodies seething on twitter since their announcement

>>54457184
>Yagoo should recruit pmaru
Do you really think the literal largest most popular female youtuber in japan with the highest rate of female fanbase would need hololive??

>>54462993
She is a prime gfe. Kinda like ina but, less boring

>>54480173
>Yeah I get that but a this point HoloEN needs a wilder girl more than it needs a seiso girl.
Only time will tell. Be sure to grudgepost us if what you're saying is correct.

>>54467358
The jealous 2views and rejects are at their highest seething point right now. Expect them schitzoing for the next 3-4months of HoloAdvent's career

>>54462993
bro you're watching pretend anime girls wtf

>>54452204
Anon their Oshi gave up on them they need somewhere to go

>>54478443
>massive dox
Does her vtuber best friend insta following her and creating a doll of her count?
>but hes made dolls of others like Gura
And he only follows Natsumi Moe and the Advent girls, he also made the doll pretty fast for someone that just heard the news of their debuts.

>>54467622
Every instance of /here/tubers has been a fucking disaster so far anon.

>>54487420
Who? Any holos?

>>54487558
Mori...

>>54487420
4chin is literally just edgy reddit these days, every one has been /here/ already.

>>54467622
Anon, if she awakens a wave of /here/posting in HoloEN’s chats, does that sound like a good thing?

>>54454453
It is.

>>54467622
>She is literally a /here/tuber and you niggers HATE HER?
Yes, you're supposed to hate containment breakers newfag.

>>54451435
fucking kill yourself Comdost/Eilene

>>54467622
how new are you? being a /here/tuber is fucking terrible, horrible every time, branding yourself as a 4chan tuber is fucking stupid, being /here/ is fine but there's a difference between that and making a central part of your personality/channel

>>54487558
Mori is an /a/ oldfag. never left
Vesper
Pippa
Koopa
Kiki
Lumi

The only I would say that was okay and posted and talked with anons in /corpo/ is Woozie

>>54488154
I unironically think Comdost is funnier than Moe.

>>54486840
thanks for the info

>>54467515
Gura did the same thing

>>54451435
dude, i didn't watch her even when she was the only envtuber i knew

>>54485391
>any male collabs she has done have been entirely harmless and professional
that's good to hear, and I heard from her former fans how she's also respectful to her fans. that's more important to me than she's doing tryhard GFE no male collab shit.
holoEN manager is so far meh but who knows, considering how most of EN girls are pretty passive & complacent. but we'll see
I have good expectation for her so far moreso than Nerissa & Bijou from their RM rrat

>>54454925
that's because we actually liked yua

>>54490376
if you actualyl liked yua she wouldn't have retired

>>54490430
we were very few people on /jp/, we never had the numbers to save anyone

>>54491105
skill issue

>>54467622
I hate newfags so much
I was fucking right when my guts told me the increase of containment breakers from /vt/ was because of retarded newfags like you

>>54451435
You see, now that everyone’s staring down the barrel of this being a thing, schizos have to come up with reasons why it’s bad, even if they previously argued the opposite at some point.

>>54451435
what credentials? being first? her only accomplishment is the views on her micro-asmr skits. she's been a nobody otherwise.
no, i don't think that person, as we knew her at any point in her very inconsistent career, would be a good fit for hololive.

>>54484178
Sounds reasonable. Yagoo knows better than us.

>>54467431
Like Filian then, absolute irrelevant EN whore.

>>54487984
>spergs about "containment"
>wonders why his views, values, and cultural sensibilities are rejected by mainstream society and confined to irrelevant image boards on the far fringes of the internet

>>54459141
Eilene had multiple channels. Natsumi's channel was where Eilene dump her translated bittranslate videos after he sold off bittranslate to the Mirai Akari Project

>>54491732
shut the fuck up stupid fuck
You shouldbe OKAY with people knowing more 4chan so we can shit on them harder

>>54460457
wait, I thought they're still in good terms with Comdost. To be honest, after the Eilene english channel rebranded to Natsumi Moe, I unsubbed and pretended she didn't exist out of frustration so I haven't really watched much of her content outside of her earliest videos and her 360 VR content on her channel. It really sucks to be at the forefront of the youtube flaggot campaign and witness someone crash and burn, losing any interest in creativity in real time and Eilene family rebranding to something entirely different was kind of a sour pill to swallow for me at that time. I felt betrayed, yes but I kind of moved on, having a realization that normalfags have completely terraformed the Internet for the worst and that it became an extension of real life. I understand that Eilene's content would never be allowed in this current iteration of the web, and probably never will. If Shiori really is Natsumi, I will give her a chance this time, as the baggage of her being associated to Eilene has finally been taken away

>>54494410
Her rebranding as Raven Manor was already a huge departure from Eilene.
Only time will tell what the future holds though and I personally found her normal streaming to be only mediocre. She's a good pick regardless so I hope for the best for her.

>>54495060
I haven't really caught on with the Raven Manor stuff until very recently unironically from the /pcg/ thread and even then it's too late anyway. I also wish her the best in this iteration. She finally made it in the big leagues.

>>54488511
and bea (rip)

>>54477709
Wilder how, like Ollie, who makes everyone uncomfortable every time she opens her damn ghoul mouth? Pass.

>>54451435
If true, she and goob become good friends to the benefit of both audiences.

>>54479425
This right here. If anyone has earned a spot in Hololive its her.

if nothing else. She will actually fucking stream.

>>54497244
I sometimes cum to the stream where she gets finger blasted. She has a sexy moan

>>54498578
Not Ame? They both do the Creatividad schtick

Moe is the saddest kind of pick me girl. The kind that does what the epic channers want and doesn't even get credit for it.

>>54500566
>Moe
>pick me
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54500620
>chris chan video

>>54497244
God no, Ollie isn't a fun loving girl she's a gross loud retard.

>>54451435
too many male and eceleb collabs

>>54480829
Fauna isn't nearly as degen as you say she is, what the hell are you talking about?

>>54451529
Fpbp

>>54460800
>Also Moe's stream times were fairly different and if she does what she did before, EUbros are gonna be happy to have someone to watch.
Please tell me you're not joking. I'll member first day and send akasupas if she's the forbidden non-Kiara EU Holo. (Obviously she doesn't live here, but morning burger hours are perfect for us.)

Comdost for Tempus3

>>54451435
>eternal 3 view that panders to china
nope

>>54467735
True and real
>3508x2480
why

>>54507865
Collabing with Moe

>>54467622
you see, these le epick newfags still want to larp that 4chan is still le heckin wholesome 2000s transgressive website normalfags should stay away, which is ironic because the same STOP BREAKING CONTAINMENT crowd are the very normalfaggot types they apparently really hate

>>54502405
she'd fit in well with JP then

>>54488511
Plenty of other girls in HoloEN are /here/, they're just less obvious about it than Mori. (Because they're not retarded.)

>>54467622
being here is "whatever" as we can't really stop them from looking, and for vtubers in specific nowhere else really discusses things at the volume and transparency of here so like, why wouldn't they know about /vt/ in specific at least.

but "4chan is my personality aren't I epic please validate me" is kind of a lose-lose idea. newfags, election tourists etc have this shitty caricature idea of the site when really it's quite different people/thought processes in different parts that may not actually have a lot in common. you can't just be "from 4chan" as a whole, you're really from a specific board/culture on it more than others etc.

>>54508306
> I came bere to lanigh are you.
Fuck off GPT AI. We know you're not a real human being. Death to toasters.

>>54508631
stop kvetching about nothing you fucking niggerfaggot. She hasn't even debuted yet. Nigger dickwads need not to apply

>>54508723
You can't win

>>54479425
Dangerously based post.

>>54502763
She's more degen than you think, but she's smart enough to keep it hidden well enough that you could never accuse her of anything. Most normal viewers wouldn't pick up on it, because she's subtle about it.

>>54479425
>Moe
>same tier as
>Korone, Aqua and Fubuki

>>54451435
>So wait, even with her credentials, you really wouldn't hire Moe?
She has the credentials, but not the talent. It saddens me to say it as I really am a fan.

>who? buy an ad, don't care, not 2019, male collaber, twitch thot, degenerate, boring.
-3view twitch indie
>whooa finally Yaguu saved her! professional, mostly seiso, creative chad, appreciate her grind, based.
- Hololive EN3

>>54453469
>>a fromsoft autist with a good loli voice as the rock loli
No fucking way. A loli that ACTUALLY has a good loli voice? I don't believe you.

>>54512531
believe it

I actually fucking hope it's Moe.
If anyone deserves to get in hololive, it's her.
She's one of the OGs, and she actually enjoys streaming and putting out content.
Maybe I'm biased because I've been a long time fan, but Moe really deserves this.
Assuming Moe got into Hololive, please please please give her a chance!!!

>>54517205
I've never heard of her before these threads started getting made, but I watched some of her stuff amidst all the doom posting and she is quite based.
Nice voice, not a whore (at least not blatantly one), good entertaining content. She seems like a hidden gem. I don't get the doom posting. What were people wanting? Another fucking mori? Eww. Some random loud and obnoxious vshitshow whore?

>>54517640
Same. I hope it's her. She is swearing a bit too much for my taste. Maybe it was just the streams I watched.

Is there a reason people are so convinced its Moe? Theres also Harune who fits all the same criteria
>same writing style on twitter with emoji and ~
>both friends with that pending guy and he follows both of them
>as part of the same circle they probably have access to the same stock assets
>Harune also apparently referred to her graduation as a promotion
I don’t really care one way or another since I didn’t follow either of them, but it seems weird everyone thinks is Moe and no one mentions Harune

>>54521294
Biggest tell is that the last upload by Moe had the same eye graphic/pattern as is used in the Advent teaser.

>>54517205
Which time of day does she usually stream?

>>54521294
There was also something about a discord server being locked.

>>54521294
Harune is EN4

>>54480173
After watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffK5DJXVgY0

ANON, YOU WERE RIGHT. I FUCKING CONCEDE. EN NEEDS JUST ONE LOOSER COOMER CHICK FUCK

>>54523915
If you don't think Fauna was absolute sex in that video you should cut your penis off immediately

>>54522307
It wasn't Moe's last upload per se, it was just part of one of her models.
And it's wasn't used in the Advent teaser, Shiori uses the eye pattern as background for her twitter uploads. It might be her zatsu bg going forward.
https://twitter.com/shiorinovella/status/1684681286785302528
https://twitter.com/shiorinovella/status/1685082019674353664
But we don't know if it's something Moe made or an asset she and Harune both had access to.
That being said, I think the latest YT upload also features a spider lily, which is Moe's favorite flower. She's an ow the edge kind of girl behind demure shell. Used to focus on shitty indie horror and gore VNs for content way back in the day and still included some of it as Moe. I'd say Shiori's character suits her well if it wasn't for the overwhelming big tiddy goth gf energy. Seriously doubt she can deliver on that.

>>54526281
As long as she works on fixing her squeaky anime voice, It'd be all fine.

Considering how she backstabbed Eilene you'd have to be a fucking idiot to give that parasite anything.

>>54528215
This. I wouldn't give this whore a chance.

>>54451435
no because she has really bad taste in friends, but then again said friend i'm thinking of is male so maybe that's why

>>54460457
Ok Moe

>>54460457
Yeah, she'll make a good tempiss cocksleeve

>>54463122
Based, homobeggars are coping

>>54453469
Lmao what

>>54451435
I will never support any Eilene project after how he dumped Moemi.

>>54451670
just like the rest of EN

>>54467173
>Literally who normiefags vtuber
Yeah she's good anon

What if she already used her high pitched anime voice in her lore video? Would it be too jarring if she just used her regular voice in the debut?

>>54466948
booba

>>54472000
Who?

>>54534058
Wtf, Ame asked the same question three years ago...

>>54534058
The excuse we're going for is that, the narrator's high pitched voice came from that black blob hanging around her shoulder. Embrace the schizophrenia.

WHO TF IS EILENE

>>54536911
Me

>>54494410
> I thought they're still in good terms with Comdost.
they have been doing separate stuff for years now
https://www.twitch.tv/comdost

>>54451435
If Moe got in then that's good for her. She won't live up to the sex of a Kayahara design, but she is very chill, has good game taste, and actually knows ancient internet memes.

Every girl deserves to escape Eilene if they can, Etra and moe knew to get out

>>54538939
>Eliene
I thought he was pretty good during Mirai Akari early era. What changed?

>>54526281
Watch the first game she plays be witches house MV

>>54539500
She did a let's play of it.

>>54539476
He hyper focused on making his animations and basically ignored the vtuber stuff he started. Like most people know moemi, yomemi, Etra and moe but don't know he started his own corp with about 8 people and then promptly ignored them all and ghosted the internet.Some of them just kinda went indie. Yomemi has also been MIA for 2 years. Etra was able to transfer to Aogiri and Moemi surprisingly still streams once a week or so. Usually with Etra or Kanon.

>>54451435
is it bannable only if it's confirmed? is this the last time we can talk about this PL on this board?

>>54541522
yeah
I mean it also seems like if shits super super well know like with kson and henya they don't even try enforce it anymore