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The instrumental didn't had enough focus in the mixing, enhancing her voice makes it feel like it is not part of the track and that makes the song feel a little bit plain, everything else is ogey.
There, I said it
>who asked?
I asked

>> No.5436922
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5436922

Not a gura fan simply bc of i don't get to watch her enough but the song is good. Better than your average annoying up songs. The mixing is weird tho. 7/10 stream Reflect

>> No.5436929

>obvious SEAnigger grammar mistakes

man, at least try to hide it better

>> No.5436986

>>5436733
>>5436922
>blaming the mixing
It's obvious Gura was the mistake in this. We need a better singer.

>> No.5437070

>>5436986
All my criticism directly gura is that it's obvious how beginner level her japanese is. But she's cute so i forgive her

>> No.5437090

Damn Cover, always hindering Gura.

>> No.5437143

>>5436929
They always fuck up the past tense forms for some reason.

>> No.5437188

>>5436986
The song is ogey, the mixing is the problem

>> No.5437217

Did you really need to make the 100th Gura thread to tell us this?

>> No.5437227

Why won't Cover let the EN girls sing their songs in English? Do they really think Japanese fans refuse to listen to any western music?

>> No.5437256

>>5437227
There was English in the song...

>> No.5437337

>>5437143
Every spic I've ever talked to in online games always seem to make that specific mistake. It's almost always something like "I didn't knew that"

>> No.5437353

>>5437256
There was also Greek but it was mostly Japanese. People won't call it an english song with japanese and greek but a japanese song with english and greek.

>> No.5437402

>>5437227
actually they do. japanese, especially idol otaku only want to japanese music. this is also the reason k-pop groups make Japanese versions of their songs despite being globally popular. because nip otakus are just that profitable.

>> No.5437431

>>5437227
Almost all of calli's songs are in English retard. Gura probably chose to sing mostly in Japanese because despite her being in denial she's still a massive weeb.

>> No.5437533

>>5437402
The Japanese also love random english, in their jpop style songs

>> No.5437557

>>5437337
I see a lot of them fuck up plurals a lot too.

>> No.5437566

>>5436733
>Music/Mix/Master - Farhan Sarasin
Did you honestly expect anything good from an Indog? I saw the the description and lowered my expectations before it even played

>> No.5437723

>>5436929
Half of Gura's subs are from Indonesia

>> No.5437743

>>5437723
???

>> No.5437766

>>5436929
i never got this meme
the main audience for vtubers is seaniggers, so who are you trying to call out here?

>> No.5437953

>>5436922
this

>> No.5438232
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5438232

This song is shit and Cover fucked up again. But of course holobronies will defend it.
Poor Gura...

>> No.5438361

>>5436733
>enhancing her voice makes it feel like it is not part of the track
To me it made it too much part of it. And if it’s original, why not in English? Isn’t that an advantage if everything else isn’t? Did Cover think it would do too well if outsiders could relate better? Weird.

>> No.5438530

>Suddenly every other anon became a music production expert
>yet can't tell the difference between harmonizing and autotune

None of (you) will be taken seriously

>> No.5438678

1. Want to reach the biggest audience for a viral video.
2. Doesn’t make it in English.
3. Cover is retarded or purposefully handicapping her.

>> No.5438759
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5438759

>it's another "nefarious forces conspired against Gura to ruin her song" episode

>> No.5438783

>>5438678
When did this rrat start that cover is literally mindcontrolling every holo to do their exact bidding?
The same shit is being spammed in a thread about her fucking mousepad with people saying that cover forced her to not release a lewd mousepad even though she literally said onstream she'd release a cheek mousepad.
I'm 99% certain it was Gura's decision to sing in Japanese.

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5438847

>>5438783
It's just how chumflakes always act, don't read too much into it.

>> No.5438897

>>5437723
all me

>> No.5438922

>>5437766
They're obsessed with trying to start drama over literally everything, just to feel something in their life. Whenever they're awake the board gets spammed with random pointless bait threads constantly

>> No.5438954

>>5438783
The only thing I know is that it’s weird because Japanese bands try to learn English to reach a bigger audience. Gura knows English and yet sings in Japanese to reach a smaller audience. Whose fault is this? I imagine Cover.

>> No.5439077

>>5438954
Have you considered that Gura might be a weeb retard and/or not give a fuck about maximizing her potential profit?

>> No.5439152

>>5438759
>>5438783
>They continue to defend Cover.
Holobronies are pathetic.

>> No.5439271

>>5438783
It's not rrat it's how the company works. Even if it was gooruh's decision they should've convinced her to do it in English

>> No.5439287

>>5436922
This. Though I'd give it 8/10 since I care more about lyrics than mixing

>> No.5439311

>>5438954
>Gura knows English and yet sings in Japanese to reach a smaller audience.
Huh? She built herself off of an audience of weebs that like Japanese music and is also a member of that audience.

>> No.5439340

holy shit the amount of seethe towards the popular one is even higher than i imagined. the song isn't bad
>gura singing in jp will alienate en viewers
you people really just say anything in here

>> No.5439359

>>5436929
the guy who made this song is an Indog. You'll stay a faggot and never work with your oshi you fucking degenerated

>> No.5439398
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5439398

>>5436733
Idk what headphones y'all using but the mixing on this song is fine. Compared to something like Ollie's hey kids mixing which was an absolute dumpsterfire

>> No.5439436

>>5437227
Cover hide people to write these songs so its make sense that they are more familiar with Japanese composers/artists. Do people really think all these girls write their own song?

>> No.5439457

>>5439340
everyone knows westerners are incapable of hearing spoken japanese, all I hear is white noise

>> No.5439501

>>5439271
>They forced her to sing in Japanese, fuck cover!
>Even if you're right and they didn't force her. In that case they should have forced her to sing in English instead!
The shit I read on this board.

>> No.5439527

>>5439311
1. Uploads are meant to go viral. So English is preferred.
2. Gura doesn’t speak in Japanese even to her current audience.
3. English is useful for both her current and new audiences.

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5439572

>Picrel makes a shitty review of it calling it mediocre (I would agree but he's still a fag)
>For her next Karaoke Gura covers this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG-UVv8cZ9s
How would you react?

>> No.5439579

>>5439527
>GURA HAS HUGE NUMBERS
>I WANT HER NUMBERS TO EVEN BIGGER
>EVERY ACTION GURA TAKES SHOULD BE TO GET BIGGER NUMBERS REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE WANTS
>COVER IS OBVIOUSLY FORCING HER TO GET SMALLER NUMBERS
The absolute state of cumbuds.

>> No.5439623
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5439623

>Fantano makes a shitty review of it calling it mediocre (I would agree but he's still a fag)
>For her next Karaoke Gura covers this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG-UVv8cZ9s [Embed]
Thoughts?

>> No.5439635

How much money do Cover shills get?

>> No.5439726

>>5439635
>money do Cover shills get?
I get paid 1 bitcoin for every (you) I get on a mongolian basketweaving board. Yagoo has personally told me that shilling on this website is of vital importance and heavily affects their income.

>> No.5439739

Listening repeatedly, this lyrics gives me impression more and more. Gura, you lived such a strange life.

>> No.5440007

>>5437402
Country Roads would like a word with you.

>> No.5440088

>>5439579
I didn’t say she has to have more viewers, only that management fucked up.

>> No.5440117

>>5439527
>first song release was a duet with matsuri
>first solo song in japanese
she knows she's reached EN market saturation, now it's time to get the nip lolicon viewers

>> No.5440158

>>5440088
>I didn’t say she has to have more viewers
Then why does it matter what language she decides to sing in. You can't even prove she didn't want to sing in Japanese unless you claim to be able to read minds.

>> No.5440210

>>5439623
i would clap

>> No.5440307

I fucking hate chinks and SEAfucks that are trying to destroy the good reputation of Cover. Hololive literally saved vtubing as a media.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this song you faggots. Stop complaining.

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5440335

>>5436733
after the first few lines it was clear: gura will be americas first idol

>> No.5440415
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5440415

my conspiracy theory -

Cover is hoping to leverage Hololive's popularity to do more anime openings and endings. They asked Gura to do an anime-style song.

>> No.5440614

its good for what it is but i can't help but be a little bit disappointed with the soulless pop production. it sounds like a muse dash song

>> No.5440690

>>5439623
I would kneel so hard I'd end up on the other side of the world

>> No.5440714

>>5436986
before all that we need her to learn japanese before trying to sing.

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5440906

>>5437766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_schizophrenia

Hence why we call them SEAniggers/schizos. If someone's posting shitty rrats and trying to stir shit, its probably a SEAnig.

>> No.5440975

>>5440117
>EN market saturation
JP is far more over saturated, with a smaller reach than the use of English too.

>> No.5441009

>>5440415
This is exactly the type of song gura would make. She's a rhythm gaming weeb. It's edgey and talks about moving on from her past.

>> No.5441258

Did no one else get this?

Her past self was wild and free. She didn't have as many rules to constrain herself towards so she just did as she felt like doing.

Now she's learned there's more to this world, and now she's becoming more orderly to really find her true self.

Gura is really talking to her past self. To HER.

>> No.5441848

>>5440975
Not for gura specifically, there's still subs to be stolen from homegrown japanese lolis

>> No.5442163

>>5439623
>(embed) [Embed]
I'm sure at least one of them likes Negative XP, I wih we didn't live a no fun era so they could sing it

>> No.5442239

>>5441258
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious for people who knew about HER

>> No.5442280

>>5439501
Forcing talent to do something retarded=bad
Forcing talent to do something good= okay

>> No.5442482

>>5439436
Cover wasnt hired them, the girls hired them with the help of each branch management to get the people they want to commisioned, based on their own budget. You'll know this if you actually watch stream and read the song's descriptions but welp i guess that's asking too much for ur retarded brain

>> No.5442496

>>5436733
>who asked your opinion on a shit song?
There, I said it

>> No.5442529

I like how there wasn't anything overtly bad about the song, so there's no catalog spam about how Gura is lazy.
I liked the song. It was very chuuni, and her voice wasn't processed as hell like wiht the Sorairo Days cover.

>> No.5442673

>>5438530
It's the same shit when people said Spiral Tones had autotune. Anyways no one here will actually ever say their oshi gave a bad take, always the mixer at fault for the song.

>> No.5443872

>>5436733
>The instrumental didn't had enough focus in the mixing
You mean it wasn't so loud as to not hear her voice? The exact thing people criticized in all her other songs?

>> No.5443904

>>5436922
stop pretending, cumbud

>> No.5443935

>>5436733
>it another “/vt/ pretends to understand the first thing about audio mixing” thread
Naisu

>> No.5443994

>>5441258
Anon, everyone got it

>> No.5444075

>>5436733
Honestly everything was fine except the lyrics for me. I really hate the CUTE GIRL BUT ACTUALLY EDGY??? thing a lot of anime/vocaloid songs do

>> No.5444145

>>5443935
I don't care. If it doesn't sound good to my ears then it's not good

>> No.5444180

>>5444145
tell gura to sing better then.

>> No.5444200

>>5444145
Maybe you just have basic bitch taste in music. Post your topster to prove you aren’t a shitter.

>> No.5444330

>barely over 600k views
Embarrassing

>> No.5444335

>>5444075
Me too, but I think it was a fairly well executed cliche in this case. I'm glad Gura's voice wasn't completely fucked over like in her other official covers, too.

>> No.5444378

i dont know anything about music mixing or autotune or whatever was done to gura's voice. it's ok, not really what i expected from her and i don't know if i like the introduction of a previously non-existent dichotomy of the character, but overall it was fine.

>> No.5444398

>>5439152
Well said, >C-kun

>> No.5444537

>>5444330
>only 660k views
shameful Gura.

>> No.5445297

Is there a reason this song reminds me of “a certain scientific railgun”
?
Is it the beat or? I don’t get it why it feels familiar.

>> No.5445388

>>5444537
>100k views an hour is shameful
Serious?

>> No.5445591

>>5445297
>Is there a reason this song reminds me of “a certain scientific railgun”
Honestly they don't sound the same to me. Anon... I love Gura but you can't just compare the two.

>> No.5445639

>>5437337
>>5437557
Those are hard concepts to grasp for anyone learning a new language. It requires lots of deliberate practice to get the feel for it.

>> No.5445649

>>5436986
>better singer
>in EN
who?

>> No.5445704

>>5437337
i cant blame them, since the past tense of 'know' is 'knew', and the sentence "I didnt know that" typically refers the past, so from an ESL perspective, using 'knew' would make sense

>> No.5446530

Almost a million views
KIRA BTFO

>> No.5446565

"Please stream Heart Challenger"

>> No.5446963

>>5446530
This is the fastest song to hit 1M in Hololive right?

>> No.5447279
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5447279

>>5446530
Kirabros... we lost.

>> No.5447319

>>5447279
lmao. L chad keep wining

>> No.5447388

>>5447279
It's okay, we'll always have the Beijing Olympics...

>> No.5447935

>>5436733
HERfag seething

>> No.5448166
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5448166

>>5447279
Shotachads, we just can't stop winning

>> No.5448470

Sounds like a generic anime opening song made to be put in rhythm games ect. It's fine but far from her strengths when it comes to singing.

>> No.5448952

>852,804 views already
It's over KFP

>> No.5449051

>>5436733
forgive her anonkun
she produce her own song with team
cover dont care and had nothing to do to her music at all.

>> No.5449121

>>5438759
>it's another "something Gura did is actually amazing but she's popular so it's terrible" episode

>> No.5449254

>>5436733
pros
>surprise greek
>good japanese pronounciation
>interesting theme
>well-executed
>released just hours after announcing
cons
>feels a bit out of character
>you wouldn't expect the top holoEN to sing mostly in japanese, would you?
>the tune gets generic very fast
>bad synth

>> No.5449384
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5449384

>>5436733
>No video
>Released midnight on a monday morning as everyone is asleep and going to work/school right after
>Not in English
>Lyrics are in closed fucking captions
>About to reach 1 mill in <12 hours when the record is 2 days
...How?

>> No.5449397

Gura, next time just make an anime OP song like Marine did.

>> No.5449438
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5449438

>>5449384
What if her deadsubs were never dead, but in the wrong timezone all along?

>> No.5449513

>>5436733
>muh best singer in hololive
here, listen to an actual singer who is good and compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQx0MtsvSQ

>> No.5449558

>>5449513
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLak0dxBKpM

>> No.5449575

>>5448470
Listen to Yoasobi to see what kind of music is popular in Japan right now and why this song was a good move

>> No.5449589

The cover fucked up rrat doesn't work when we all know that the girls hire and pay out of pocket for their original songs. If gura doesn't like it she wouldn't have paid for it.

>> No.5449618

>>5449513
No

>> No.5449656

>>5449618
Anon the shark got shit on by Matsuri in a song cover, it's time to wake up.

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5449674

>>5449513
>>5449558
All 3 are great singers

>> No.5449709
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5449709

Why greek?

>> No.5449739

>>5449709
Atlantis

>> No.5449746

>>5449709
>>5449739
Plato

>> No.5449762
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5449762

So this finally settles once and for all the "best singer in hololive" meme is just that, a meme.

Thanks!

>> No.5449796

>>5449513
>>5449558
Should've posted Sora or Moona.
I unironically think that Gura sounds about as good as Suisei.
And they both sound better than AZKi.

>> No.5449805

>>5449513
Honestly, now that you've made me compare, I now believe all the rrats about "muh mixing/muh instruments". What the fuck Gura, you couldn't ask for something better than this in 9 months?

>> No.5449821

>>5449796
Are you actually deaf and relying on song reviews to form opinions?

>> No.5449824

>>5444537
youtube froze the counter for about 4 hours, in an attempt to determine if it was being botted. it's up to 900k now.

>> No.5449835

>>5439739
Hello Nihon bro

>> No.5449849

>>5449739
>>5449746
Oh, right. I completely forgot about that part of her lore.

>> No.5449871

>>5446963
yes, the fastest prior was one of Mori's (red or rip, can't recall which); which took 2.2 days.

>> No.5449896

It's not bad, but I want the city pop shark back

>> No.5449931

>>5449513
>>5449558
they have better examples than that, right...? gura won if we only compare to those.

>> No.5449942

>>5440007
You know there's a very popular version of Country Roads with Japanese lyrics right? Are you trying to prove his point or am I getting confused?

>> No.5449954

>>5449762
Indeed, because when you have this many girls who have incredible and refined singing voices that are on par with each other, people will simply advocate for the voice (or person) they personally like better. Making debates about it will thus result in pointless back and forth without ever reaching a consensus.

Suitan's voice is fucking sex oh my god

>> No.5449957

>>5436733
Isn't it kind of cringe how her song is nip even though she doesn't speak it? I can understand covers, but this is an original

>> No.5449958

>>5449931
>This shitty song is better than tenkyuu
anon.

>> No.5449974

>>5436733
I bet on ... 5 million views, minimum, this week

>> No.5449984

>>5449656
Racist mixer.

>> No.5450007
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5450007

>>5449513
>>5449558
>generic japanese singer
LMAO
Gura is better

>> No.5450039

>>5449821
No, I listened to their singing. You're deluded (and wannabe Japanese) if you think there's anything more than a small gap between Suisei and Gura. I think Suisei does edge her out, but only just.
As far as I'm concerned, AZKi can't really compare to either of them.

>> No.5450045

>>5449513
You're comparing a veteran utaite to a meme amerishart. But ofc you didn't know that

>> No.5450060

>>5450039
You REALLY believe Suisei is worse? You don't see the giant gap in singing ability?

>> No.5450085

>>5444075
I thought the actual music and lyrics were well executed. Only the art was pretty cringy. It’s basically one of those “i can be yuor angel…or yuor devil” memes.

>> No.5450107

>>5450060
You REALLY didn't read my entire post? It's like two lines.

>> No.5450132

WHY DID SHE SING IN GREEK?

>> No.5450157

>>5450132
Atlantis

>> No.5450210

>>5436733
japanese idol music is very dated

>> No.5450225

>>5450060
Towa is better than Suisei...

>> No.5450254

>>5450060
Your reading comprehension reps...

>> No.5450265

>>5449513
Pffft Gura rivals them easily

>> No.5450307

>>5450007
>>5450265
Shut up with your shitty bait

>> No.5450440

I just wanted some vibrato.

>> No.5450475

>>5449958
If we are just talking about singing, then yes. Gura's vocals absolutely mogs both those songs.

>> No.5450518

>shit song with Matsuri
>shit song again
weird how Risu sings better in random streams if she's worse.

>> No.5450563

>>5450475
To be fair, this original song doesn't really showcase it. You should be comparing originals instead of original vs karaoke.

>> No.5450564

>>5450475
>this shit better vocals than inochi
okay EOP

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5450574

I thought the song was alright. Nothing mind blowing, but it wasn't bad either. Just kinda meh.

>> No.5450677

>>5450563
>SHE HAS TALENT BUT THE OFFICIAL RELEASES DONT SHOW IT
anon...

>> No.5450720

>>5450677
I'm literally arguing in favor of Sui you fucking retard

>> No.5450768

Why does everyone say it's ooc? I dunno the kawaii jpop matches her image if you ask me.

>> No.5450794

>>5437227
>Calli restricted to Japanese

Lol no

>> No.5450818

>>5450060
Suisei does well with what she has, but the talent difference truly is a giant gap she will always be behind Gura in.

>> No.5450834

>>5449957
it's fucking weird to pander to JOPs when the vast majority of her audience are likely EOPs. It's
such a japanese thing to do.

>> No.5450835

>>5450818
This is just shitposting. Might as well say Miko is the best singer.

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5450950

>>5450835
But she is.

>> No.5450964

>917,827 views

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5450978

>>5450834
Fair, JOPs do love the shark, even if it's only superficial

>> No.5451004

>>5436733
OMG DID YOU NOT KNOW!?!?!? NEGATIVE THOUGHTS ARE FORBIDDEN! IF YOU ARE NOT 100% IN LOVE WITH SOMETHING THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT FOR NOT IGNORING IT! OMG CRITICISM IS SOOO BAD

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5451068

>>5451004
Exactly. Glad we agree.

>> No.5451130

>>5438954
Her english / non-weeb fans don't give a shit about this dokidoki idol bullshit, the music is specifically aimed at a subset of the audience that likes this stuff

>> No.5451189

>Gura releases reflect which takes a lot of chances, isn't in her native tongue, and is a concept song for her character
>but but the song is worse than generic jpop song
Yeah ok friend, come back when you decide to stop comparing apples to oranges.

>> No.5451313

>>5450835
If you ever compare the two's karaokes, its absolutely not fucking close. Gura is pure natural talent, Suisei can't keep up and needs a ton of production to even compete.

>> No.5451332

>>5449849
Greek is also a very based language.

>> No.5451339

If you told me Coco's Tatsunoko song was better than the shark original song 2 weeks ago I would have laughed.

But it's actually true.

>> No.5451383

>>5449674
Shut up, faggot. Be tribalistic or gtfo

>> No.5451538
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>>5451383
No.

>> No.5451745

I like it.

>> No.5452204

STREAM REFLECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGgEFoI9MhE

>> No.5452296

>>5436733
>Mixer is a fucking indog
You cant really expect something from a seanigger

>> No.5452813

>>5450768
The electronic music is also fitting for someone who likes rhythm games.

>> No.5453073

"Why didn't Cover let her do English?" "Why is Cover forcing her to appeal to JP bros?" You schizos really think Gura had absolutely no say in what language she wanted to sing this in, huh?

>> No.5453188

>>5436733
i hear jaws theme in it

>> No.5453254

Its hitting 1 million within 12 hours, what is all the bitching about numbers?

>> No.5453284

>>5453254
Kuzuha's KING has 15 mil views, does that make him better than Risu?

>> No.5453409

>>5451004
There's nothing wrong with criticism but with some of you guys like going to a restaurant and ordering a tuna sandwich and then saying "what the fuck this steak isn't medium rare, it's fucking trash"

>> No.5453444

Sounded alright until the laughing part. but I guess it's what you'd expect from the cover art. The chorus is ok. I still have yet to hear a vtuber sing a song I like. I think the closest was Reine's cover of you are king. Of course I'm probably not the target demographic.

>> No.5453463

The low end is great. The vocals sound a bit muffled and soft to me, wish there was more presence in upper harmonics. Hopefully that's just youtube being shit and the lossless version will sound better.

>> No.5453486

>>5453284
Why did KING get covered so much anyway?

>> No.5453510

people picking things they dislike that are completely incongruent with what's actually in the song is peak music retardation.

mixing is pretty good for the song, people can't really distinguish between layering vocals and blatant autotune. i think the song actually has as much of her natural voice as it can (for what it is), other than one bad modulation at the end of the first chorus. pretty dynamic vocal range in a pop song.

im sure if her bday stream was any indication of how she felt, she's probably very proud and happy about releasing this

if you don't like the song don't try to feign musical knowledge like a faggot retard, just say you don't like it

>> No.5453646

>>5453510
I just don't understand why every pop song now has to have a breakdown with a rap in it.

>> No.5453649

>>5436733
>enhancing her voice
"enhancing" means making something better, not worse.

>> No.5453731

>>5453510
Cumsharts pretending like they know anything about music? Imagine my shock.

>> No.5453752

my expectations where set too high, i wanted to hear some symphonic underwater sonata

>> No.5453757

>>5453486
easy to sing, catchy

>> No.5453781

>>5453284
>Kuzuha's KING has 15 mil views
I thought it surpassed Mori's song??

>> No.5453813

>>5453646
Considering this song was Gura pretty much wrapping up and getting over when she was HER, it makes sense for some rap to be in there.

>> No.5453815

>>5453646
Seems like a copy pasted musical trend. I don't know any actual history but American pop music usually remixes rap in. I know kpop seems to follow this formula for a bunch of their songs.

>> No.5453865

>Ουδέν κακόν AMONG US καλού
what did she mean by this

>> No.5453900

I really like the ''pain pain pain''

>> No.5453982

>>5453815
I blame Michael Jackson. The earliest trends seem to be around the time Invincible came out.

>> No.5454457

>>5437227
Have you ever looked up the lyrics to idolshit?
They're usually godawful and would probably sound incredibly awkward in english.
It's like an genre perpetually stuck in 90s western pop.

>> No.5454515

>>5436733
Not what I expected, who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make her sing in japanese, what's the point of an english branch if you're not letting the talent do english songs? Any cover from her karaoke streams is better than this. 5/10

>> No.5454593
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>>5436733
Honestly? It was ok.
Not bad for a first original song, but just ok.

She really shines more with slower deeper songs.
I know she says "she can't belt" but that's bullshit and we all know it.

>> No.5454730

>>5436733
It was okay. Better than Kiara's stuff and most of Mori's. Still mediocre like every other Holo original song. Will definitely get tons of views though.

>> No.5454802

>>5453731
Remember that one guy that used to RP as a Music Science grad student to prove that Gura's voice was mathematically perfect? Cumshart get really weird with her and singing. She's a good singer, but damn.

>> No.5454879

How long till it overtakes Heart Challanger

>> No.5454905
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>> No.5454971

>>5454879
Why is Kiara's stuff so spectacularly bad?

>> No.5455005

>>5450950
based 35p

>> No.5455012

Current Rankings for All Hololive Songs with 1M views in 7 days or less:

Reflect (Gawr Gura) - 10 Hours
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days 46 Minutes
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days 14 Hours 51 Minutes
Can You Do the Hololive? (HoloJP 0-5, EN 1, ID 1-2) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (HoloJP 0-4) - 3 Days
GETCHA! (Hoshimachi Suisei / Mori Calliope) - 4 Days 1 Hour 45 Minutes
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 4 Days 6 Hours 41 Minutes
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 4 Days 16 Hours 36 Minutes
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
King (Suisei) - 5 Days 15 Hours 56 Minutes
Peko Miko Great War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days

>> No.5455052

>>5450835
Gura is so much better than Suisei that it's not even close. She's the best singer in Hololive and there are SEVERAL tier breaks between her and the rest.

>> No.5455192
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>> No.5455197

>>5454971
J-Pop is fucking garbage

>> No.5455267

>>5455052
How can Gura be the best when Risu mogs her in absolutely every aspect
>b-b-but
Sorry, singing ability is objective.

>> No.5455284

>>5455197
So is rap/hip-hop but I think Mori has at least a couple songs that are listenable.

>> No.5455321

>>5455267
Stop pretending Risu exists. No one knows who you are talking about.

>> No.5455418

>>5455284
Because her songs are barely rap, if it was proper hip-hop you'd curl up in your security blanket and start crying because you have PTSD from when the negros at school stole your lunch money.

>> No.5455435
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5455435

Completely different from what I expected a Gura song to be but I am not at all disappointed. The voices, the lyrics, the track, telling a story (both for herself and the character). It was fantastically dark but accepting of how good things ended up.

>> No.5455496

>>5455418
Didn't have any negroes at my school, but I also didn't get any lunch money from my parents.

>> No.5455504

The composer tweeted this
https://twitter.com/FaaatSaw/status/1407073615812644869

>> No.5455693

>>5436733
I really like the song, it's groovy and it reminds me of Stella Glow for some reason.
Best original EN song yet, good stuff. t. Takodachi

>> No.5455728

>>5455693
>Best original EN song yet
That isn't saying a lot.

>> No.5455808

this thread is so full of retards it makes the average /pol/ post seem intelligent.

>> No.5455815

>>5455504
wtf, this is so good!

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>>5438678
>NOOO JAPANESE IS A DEBU...

>>5455728
I like a lot of Mori's songs too.

>> No.5455876

>>5454515
It's probably more that cover doesn't have that many connections outside of the japanese music scene, and even that's probably limited to idol music, NND and vocaloid composers.
Gura shines when she's covering slower songs. Just find her someone that can compose in the style of Ruth B, Lucy Rose, hell, even Elvis and Sinatra.

>> No.5455948

>>5455825
NTA but it is a debuff, Gura's just that strong

>> No.5456081

>>5455876
>another modern mainstream Western pop song with those shitty breathy whisper vocals
no thanks.

>> No.5456098

>>5455948
Anon, anyone that's willing to watch an anime shark loli play video games is going to be willing to listen to a song in Japanese. You're up your own ass if you think otherwise.

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>few subs
>infinitely better singer
how does the squirrel do it?

>> No.5456136

>>5438678
>1 milion views in a day
Oh that Cover

>> No.5456187

>>5456118
>refuses to sing
Do what?

>> No.5456204

>>5456118
>refuses to do karaoke

>> No.5456283

>>5445649
Kiara

>> No.5456284

>>5436733
I don't like the rap/spoken sections, rest is good.

>> No.5456337

>>5456283
Nice joke

>> No.5456412

>>5455504
Based

>> No.5456413

>>5455876
>I want Gura to be Billie Eilish
Kill yourself, zoomer.

>> No.5456432

>>5455504
Holy shit I love it

>> No.5456478

>>5456413
H-how did you go from Elvis to Billie Eilish?

>> No.5456569

>>5450060
>t. actual retard

>> No.5456601

>>5455012
One of the best examples of why numbers =/= good

>> No.5456643

>>5456098
"Listen to a song in Japanese" is not the same as "Listening to a song and learning the words and having it stuck in your head over and over"
There's a reason the only Jap songs most weebs know are anisongs and not actual J-rock/pop albums. Not being able to sing the words yourself is a debuff mid-long term and you're up your own ass if you think otherwise.

>> No.5456782

>>5456601
Don't tell the cumbuds...

>> No.5457204

>>5456413
None of those people sound remotely like Billie Eilish. Are you deaf?

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5457262

>>5456601
>>5456782
Who cares anyway right?
You definitely don't.
>t. chumbud

>> No.5457286

>>5455418
Thank god for that

>> No.5457300

>another thread for a shitty song
is it hard to keep discussion in 1 thread?

>> No.5457328

>>5457300
Guess which one came first

>> No.5457350

>>5455012
>No Tenkyuu
>far better song than all that shit
what does this tell you?

>> No.5457373
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>>5455418
seems we got an uppity buck here

>> No.5457394

>>5457328
anon, he's bad at numbers... He can't tell time. like counting gives him ptsd

>> No.5457496
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5457496

eq curve of song, its missing bass

>> No.5457557

>>5456118
Maybe the lazy treerat should sing then

>> No.5457564

>>5457394
Huh? But >we love numbers in this board. What happened?

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>>5455192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

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>>5457496
it's missing a good vocalist too.

>> No.5457674

>>5457564
some love some hate

>> No.5457726

>>5457262
Chumbuds depicting themselves as gigachad will never not be funny.

>> No.5457740

>>5436733
Here's 55s of clean version
https://twitter.com/FaaatSaw/status/1407073615812644869

>> No.5457767

>>5457649
That's a given, it's Hololive.

>> No.5457795

>>5457649
lmao, seanigger cope

>> No.5457830

>>5457795
You're just mad Risu is a better singer without even trying.

>> No.5457881

>>5457795
Imagine enjoying Gura's voice.

>> No.5457884

>>5457830
if she's that good why she can't gather any respectable following

>> No.5457925

>>5457884
So because she doesn't have lots of subs that makes her a worse singer? Weird, even someone with 0 subs can be a better singer.

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>>5457881
heh, i got something to tell you...

>> No.5457952

>>5457830
If only she ever tried....

>> No.5457966

>>5457830
maybe she should try actually using it on a regular basis LMAO

>> No.5457990

https://twitter.com/FaaatSaw/status/1407073615812644869?s=19

>> No.5458004

>>5457881
Well, at least 200,000 people did, retardchama

>> No.5458055

>>5457925
no you idiot, a good talent is going to gather in people...

>> No.5458120

>>5458004
>BIG NUMBER MEAN GOOD
Cumsharts literally are children, aren't they?

>> No.5458132

In case anyone was wondering, Indonesia is such shit because it's filled with chinese

>> No.5458138

Can anyone actually breakdown what's good and what's bad? i want to produce music for my oshi

>> No.5458146

>>5457830
Risu has one huge weakness that holds her back from being a top tier singer
she almost never sings...

>> No.5458228

>>5458120
>Cumsharts literally are children, aren't they?
well be an adult and let children play with numbers, oh wait you won't because it bothers you deep down that Shark crushed all rta 1mil records

>> No.5458322

>>5458228
Whatever you need to tell yourself.

>> No.5458469

>>5458322
oggey

>> No.5458580

>>5455418
I'd like to see her do proper hip-hop instead of just amateurishly channeling Eminem.

>> No.5458597

>>5458138
well you see it's good if it's a JP holo and it's bad if it's an EN western whore

>> No.5458791

Why is Gura's rendition of Toxic better than her own original song?

>> No.5458860

>>5458120
I gave you an undeniable fact about people that like her voice. You refuted it by name calling instead of providing an argument.... I think I was right about calling you a retard, retardchama

>> No.5458922

>>5458860
It's okay KFP haven't taken their meds today

>> No.5458945

>>5458138
>whats good
the overall tone of the track
the song itself has a story being told with comparative 3 act composition, supported by instumentation and arrangement.
lyrics have meaning
the beat
the style of the song. its a juxtaposition of duel narrators(which is also a difficult style of song to do) and supports the lyrics and meaning of the lyrics.

>whats odd/bad
the arrangement
the instrumentation
the use of japanese and english intermixing
the arrangement makes for odd transitions both instrumental and lyrical, but is caused by the style of the song. the change after every chorus is what signifies this the most and where most people are commenting on the technical aspects of the song.

overall its a good track. people are just being anti because 4chins contrarian consistency.

>> No.5458948

>>5436733
i agree, most "muh idol" mastering kinda sucks. on top of that her voice wasnt pronounced forward enough. still enjoyed it quite a bit though

>> No.5458974

>>5445388
you must be fun at parties

>> No.5459058

>>5436733
>didn't had
you fucking inbred mongoloid

>> No.5459183

>>5458922
Kaz, why are you here instead of marching with the other neonazis? Are you too fat or are you just a candyassed LARPer?

>> No.5459208

>>5449674
based

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>>5459183
literally who

>> No.5459404

>>5455012
KEKBEATS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>> No.5459474

>>5459183
Take your meds KFP, you're delusional

>> No.5459568

>>5459404
Guras song is stuck at 1m 12 hours later. Mori meanwhile has 20m views on one of her songs.
Drop off already happening for Gura, would be surprised if she hits 3m by the end of the month.

>> No.5459720

>>5459568
>"gura only has 1m views after 10 hours? hah, mori has 20m views after barely 9 months!"
anon

>> No.5459898

>>5449384
It released in the evening japan time, and has japanese vocals. That should be enough to tell you who it was marketed to

>> No.5459938

>>5449513
This sounds generic as fuck, Gura is way better.

>> No.5459999

>>5458055
that's where you're wrong

>> No.5460007

>>5459568
C'mon, anon-chan...

>> No.5460392

>>5442482
this

>> No.5460442

>>5457496
anon, this is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. the vocal mix is a total loss. i don't care about the fucking EQ.

>> No.5460466

Image Gura face when she saw the result and compared it to HER 10 minute troll song with random mic

>> No.5460653

>>5449384
cunny

>> No.5460730

>pedobuds seething
feels good

>> No.5460762

>>5460730
Who are you quoting?

>> No.5460910

>>5458791
because she sang the vocals in one take through a compressor and a reverb straight to the encoder, instead of through over 9000 random VST plugins with some monkey chopping her up like yard waste. you can hear her all the details of her vocal articulation, and she sounds natural and expressive and human, instead of sounding like some chopped-up sampler salad imitation of herself.

>> No.5461060

>>5459938
>implying Gura's song isn't generic
Or maybe that's just jpop in a nutshell.

>> No.5461217

30
meds

>> No.5461353

>>5456283
If she stopped doing her tenchou voice maybe. Her stage performances were pretty nice

>> No.5461425

>starts with a cool Arab twang
>turns into generic J-pop
Very disappointed desu

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>>5461425
>starts with a cool Arab twang
Anonymous-chama, your hearing reps, and your vision reps... or is anything other than English all just Greek to you?

>> No.5461869

>>5461596
Twang is referring to the music/instruments, not the language

>> No.5462036

>>5461596
oh, they all claim to have invented pita and gyros, i'll be surprised they don't all fight over who invented the bouzouki too.

>> No.5462116

>>>/mu/104369492

>> No.5462179

>>5455012
ALPHA AND OMEGA

>> No.5462334

I'm with /mu/ on this, it's kinda generic and the lyrics being Japanese adds that additional layer of unironic-weeb cringe that just makes it worse.

>> No.5462506

>>5461596
>words are guitars

>> No.5462579

>>5462116
Stop it

>> No.5462671

>>5450060
To "edge someone out" means you are better than them, not worse. Don't act like that if you're going to read like that.

>> No.5463383

>>5462334
I bet Ina's song will be mostly japanese too, get used to it.

>> No.5463776

>>5462334
>Contracted by a jap company
>Have anime avatars made by japanese artists
>Every now and then collab with real japs
Can you still categorize that as "weeb"? They're in direct attrition with the culture.

>> No.5464335

>>5463776
gura has called herself a "professional weeb".

>> No.5464338

>>5463776
Didn't Gura actually talk about this once? In a Monhan stream? Or maybe I was playing Monhan while watching...

>> No.5464362

>>5464338
it was a question in bathtub pizza.

>> No.5464434

>>5464362
Ah, then it was me playing. My memories get extremely blurry when multitasking

>> No.5464480

>>5449674
I like this anon. He's got heart.

>> No.5464581

>>5455504
Jesus, release it.

>> No.5464681

>>5458791
Because she has a nice voice and for some reason Cover does not understand.

>> No.5464840

>>5455504
this is just the same awful vocal processing.

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