/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54298639
Why did it take them until a third gen to realize the forward facing 'new channel' profile pictures were ugly as shit? Using official art in this way for their starting channel pics is so much better.

You sure about that?

>>54298800
When Hololive declines it will be the end of human-driven VTubers. They will be the last corpo standing after the advent of AI-driven VTubers.

>>54298639
Always has been

Buy an ad

>>54299670
This is a Hololive board, retard.

>>54299670
Holoboard.
Holothread.
Holobanner.
Holospoiler pics.

Better than the stars they should cancel holostars branch and that money give to the hololive branch

For me it’s the blue dorito.

>>54299999
Checked

>>54299757
An ad. Buy it.

>>54298639
I don't watch other companies because hololive is basically my first party members in an RPG. Unless the plot drags them out of my group I'm not choosing anyone else, and I'll be pissed if they're taken away.

>>54299999
They will disband the males eventually. It will just take some time.

>>54298639
almost like the talent actually having talent or not doesn't matter, you can just give the platform to literally anyone, and bam, subs

>>54300213
Connor was right

>>54300213
Its holo. Starting at 400k+ sub is a given. Getting to a million is up to the talent.

>>54300213
It's like pop stars. They don't shine just because of their talent. It's about the whole experience. There could be a good singer singing every Saturday at your local bar, but she will never have any global relevance.

>>54300213
Except Sana

True, but I have way more fun watching indies.
Hololive fans are just too unsufferable.

>>54298639
hey not fair
fuwamoco are cheating, two people in one channel MODS

>>54300351
The only good thing he has ever said

>>54300351
He was. People got mad at him because they knew he was right.

>>54300454
Sorry, back hort.
Model too brown.
>Why can't I stream Genshit all day fuck this imma head out!

>>54300490
Cheating themselves. Half the supers, half the members, half the streams, etc. It seems so strange to have 4 with one twinchannel instead of 5, from a business and logistics standpoint. Even if it isn’t fully half, it will still be less than if they were separate.

>>54300204
Yeah sure it will happen any moment now.

>>54298639
bijou feet debuff

I got high hopes for the dogs so subbed to them already, no idea about the others but we'll see in August how they do.

>>54301080
I always sub and follow all the new Holo girls to not miss anything. I can always unsub if I don't like them.

>>54300213
>literally anyone
Nope, they have to be good enough to be hired, first.
Keep seething 2views.
Maybe try sending your audition form again instead of seething here.

>>54299999
What does this even mean. Holostars makes much less than the girls sure, but it's probably still enough to fund projects and new gens. Quit worrying about streamers you don't even watch.

>>54301215
So true sis!

>>54300213
seething 2view

>>54301215
If not for sisters and faggot homobeggars I would have tolerated their existence

remember when this actually was a hololive board?
i miss the golden age

>>54300454
Sana still got hundreds of thousands of subs and thousands of viewers.

>>54301187
Basically, all non-Holo corpos are just stepping stones to Holo audition. They are going through hell to build their portfolio with the hopes to impress the Holo committee.

>>54298639
>Hololive is the only relevant vtubing agency. Simple as.
Yawn... ya uh huh sure. Just keep it down stupid annoying kid. /keeps watching the talents in kurosanji, phase connect and Mikeneko.

>>54300415
council be like; ouch
seriously though, 2 years no 1m? the indog brat is already at 2m ffs.

>>54301675
They were rushed gen during the Covid boom. It's already clear that EN3 was taken far more seriously.

>>54301675
To be fair, Council got utterly fucked by sub culling.

>>54300213
>>54300351
Just like vshojo and Niji?
No shit, joining a corpo with more advertising power will net you more subs
How long the subs and popularity over time will be decided by their actual talents. (see low subbed holos)
So yeah, Connor is full of shit and doesn't realize mousey is also a corpo shill.

>>54301019
I guess they were dying for a novel idea

>>54301906
He never said that both were excluded. He used Hololive as an example, and that got people mad even though brand recognition is a thing that pretty much exists in this industry. His point was to illustrate that you can be someone that could lie on the auditions, join a org like Hololive and have fame easily unlike being on your own. Eventually they come around to their respective viewership, point that he didn’t make and pretty much people do forget. And Mouse is a corpo shill, yes. I’m so tired of seeing your vtubers getting an ad through her.

>>54302285
If it is really them, then I can understand them being a packaged deal, but it does seem counter-intuitive.

>>54301308
>>54301187
stop making fun of 2views
Faggots like you probably made fun of the twins for being 2views before

>>54299999
those are some devilish quints

>>54302749
No shit. Nobody cared about them despite the constant shilling they got /here/.
That's how every 2view gets treated. They're all untalented losers who will stay 2views forever because they're simply not good enough. It's only after joining Hololive when they become the greatest talents in the world.

>>54300213
If you don't have talent you won't get into Hololive in the first place.
Even Sana was talented.

>>54298639
>using dead subs from the Japs as any metrics of success
I think I'll wait for the hype to die down and see.

>>54299670
You'd need to buy your own vtuber imageboard to get away from Holo.

>>54301453
It's funny because Holo is the one corp who doesn't give a fuck about the numbers of the applicants.

>>54301675
Last 20 months were just horrible for HoloEN and sub growth reflects that.

But it seems to be getting better.

>>54298785
yeh bro they looked like prisoners or sumnn lmaooo

>>54304674
That's just not true. Most of the confirmed PLs have significant sub and or video numbers.

>>54299670
Buy a board

>>54298639
That's HoloEN though. Not Hololive.

>>54300351
It was hilarious how holoniggers chimped out just because he told the truth they didn't like.

>>54298639
I’m glad there’s no obvious runt yet. Sana had like half the subs of everyone else before debut.

>>54298639
Does anyone else think they fucked up giving the sisters one channel?

>>54305069
I tried to but Ina said she isn't for sale

>>54305505
No. That will be the only EN3 channel I'll watch.

>>54304898
>ame = literally 1 view
>kiara = basically completely forgotten with 100 views a video and even as an idol very unknown
>ina = art shit
>mori = failed jp rapper
>fauna = 2 view with some good asmr
>kronii = completely unknown weirdo who did some voice stuff
>moom = 2 view
>sana = art shit and ina friend
>bae = basically struggling for any recognition small core of fans that number a hundred
You're retarded.

>>54305134
It's funny how HoloEN dominated the whole Western market while being a dwarf in comparison to HoloJP.

>>54305803
All of the ones you posted have over 10k close to 20k followers/subs pre debut, Amelia excluded.

>>54298639
>mainstream slop with "talents" that hate streaming is the only relevant agency

Holosweep /thread.

>>54305927
I think it's more accurate to say that HoloJP is what makes HoloEN able to dominate the market. EN talents on their own don't really have any influence, outside of maybe Mori and Gura.

>>54306031
It just feels good being on the winning side.

>>54305803
I read that list and was trying to remember which member you didn't include and why. And then I was like "Oh, ohhhhh, right."

>>54304898
>>54305803(Me)
The only exception is Gura.
>>54305937
Kiara 100% did not have 20k subs shut the fuck up. I've been following her RM account for years.
Ame didn't.
Just off that I think you're talking out of your ass.

HOLOSEETHE
>HOLOSEETHE
HOLOSEETHE
>HOLOSEETHE

>>54305937
>holo cares about numbers
>you'll only get in if you have 20k+ subs
>me literally the only person in Ame's twitch stream 3 years ago

>>54300649
I got mad because he was white.

>>54305927
Because of Hololive's efforts. That's why every girl before HoloEN was irrelevant. Do you expect Hololive to dominate the west when they can't understand Japanese?

>>54306509
>>54306702
Oh, we found last Kiara and Ame PLs viewers. What a miracle! What an amazing coincidence that out of 7 billion people we got those two here! And of course it cannot be total bullshit, because all anons always tell the truth.

Reminder to not oshify a HoloEN3 chuuba before their debuts, the one you love the most pre-debut will end up collabing with males the most.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

>>54306509
Kiara was popular with the Japanese, so yes, she has a substantial audience beforehand.

>>54307008
>will end up collabing with males
So...?

>>54307105
well i see why a faggot like yourself has no problem with males, but us straights want nothing to do with them

>>54307215
you just replied to one, it's over for you. you're outta the club, bucko

>>54302749
>wah nobody cared about me until I got good and proved my worth to a reputable player in the industry
Yes. That's how it works. You can do vtubing as a hobby or side hustle and that's perfectly respectable, but if you are at all serious about it as a career then your time as an indie is for building up your portfolio for an eventual audition to a proper agency.
I don't make fun of 2views for being 2views. I make fun of 2views that seethe about the earned successes of the people that made it. 2views have their place and purpose, but don't be a jealous backbiting bitch just because you weren't chosen.

>>54307023
You have no clue what you're talking about. You are clearly a newfag retard who needs to have his head stomped on. Kiara RM had 100 views on newer videos. She was desperate to stay in Japan and the idea she had a "substantial" japanese fanbase is fucking retarded. As an idol she was performing to 0 people 90% of the time. It's amazing how retarded you 2 views are. It wasn't because of your stupid faggot sub count you stupid faggot, it's because you're a troon and don't have talent. That's why you didn't get in.

>>54307008
I don't love any of them at all. So according to your rules they'll never collab with males. Don't forget to thank me.

>>54307963
nope, her videos have 10s of thousands of views so that disproves what you said, i just checked right now. can't believe how stupid people on this website are these days.

>>54298785
Because they couldn't fit both dogs in the profile pic.

>>54307215
>us straights
lmao

>>54308050
>checking after debut
WOW I wonder why that would be you stupid fucking retard.

>>54308529
>can't believe how stupid people on this website are these days.

if you think holo didn't accept you because you didn't have enough numbers you need to get off /#/ and work on yourself.

>>54300213
>getting through the most competitive audition doesn't mean anything
sounds like cope from people who didn't make it

>>54308381
homosexual spotted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FZ5l1FrUU

>>54299757
No one cares. Buy an ad.

>>54301867
Holox debuted later abd where also culled but Laplus and Chloe are already at 1million and Koyori is on her way too abd damn I just checked and noticed that Irys has been stuck at 900k for 7 months.... This shit is grim.

>>54309455
As an IRyStocrat, it hurts. She's such a talented singer, such a good entertainer, such a cute girl. Yet her subs barely grow and her songs don't reach a wide audience. It really hurts.
I blame the management, they fucked her over at the start. No direction, rushed decisions, no understanding how to promote her, miscomunication and mistreatment. And later they just abandoned her. One time, I remember, she was like "I recorded a bunch of stuff and told my manager but they still didn't reply. It's been a week already, I wonder what happened..." and after that the golden week happened. Some say they didn't reply to this day.
Shit sucks.

>>54298639
It is really just Nijisanji and Hololive

Nobody but weirdos know that Phase/Idol/etc are actual companies btw

Wait until Youtube culls their sub numbers. It happened to Irys and Council. Council lost 50-70% of their subs. Sana lost the most with like 70%. That really took the wind out of her sails. Watch it not happen this time lol

>>54309999
I know about them because they are shilled hard in the catalog, but I'm a proud Hololive watcher otherwise.

>>54302588
>His point was to illustrate that you can be someone that could lie on the auditions
That's a pretty bad point since it wouldn't fly.

>>54309999
I was there when people said no way NijiEN would catch up to HoloEN in terms of viewers.
Nowadays their live viewer count is around the same in many cases.
Never say never. In a few more years things may look very different.

>>54301187
>2views
>implying any non-2views applied
why would a successful vtuber want a fanbase that will crucify you for every little (real or imagined) mistake that you make?

>>54304754
Or you know, Cover had them on other projects for long periods of time. Even JPs on break have sub growth slow down because they aren't putting out new content. It's not a conspiracy, just the reality of being a youtuber.

>>54298639
Why do Hololive fans have such searing hatred for all non-holo vtubers?

>>54309999
I know about them because they make Holofags seethe.

>>54302690
note that some holo members already bought their own property in under 3-4 years. SC and ad revenue is the only thing that they'll be splitting.

I love how this thread is full of salty sisters who would never get accepted into the company they criticize so much.

>>54310152
the cull happened hours after they revealed their channel...and a 2nd purge happened a couple days after. So far EN3 sub growth is looking good.

>>54309222
What does this have to do with anything? Explain because I am retarded.

>>54309916
Yeah I feel bad for Irys. She has a couple of good songs but when most of her songs are only about Hope this hope that it gets boring to listen to.
I think her sub stagnation was also caused by the fact they released most of her music on spotify and other streaming platforms first then youtube months after the initial release.

>>54299670
Do you work for hiromoot? How much does he pay you? LOL

>>54298639

>>54298785
Tempus had to show em how its done and now they're following suit. They're ven doing a watchalong of their debuts.

>>54301030
No, he said it will take time, retard.

>>54300114
>choosing a good nijien talent to watch
>there's nothing

>>54298639
Proof of inflated numbers that don't represent any qualities, nor talent. Meanwhile in other corpos numbers increasing means they did something right with Hololive they might as well have 5M subscribers because it literally loses all meaning at that point

>>54299670
HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD
SEETHE ABOUT IT

>>54300104
HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD
SEETHE ABOUT IT

>>54320202
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>54322439
True that.

>>54309398
HOLOBOARD
HOLOTHREAD
SEETHE ABOUT IT

>>54313822
Membership money too.

>>54298639
uooohhhhh i'm nooooooooooooooomberfagging

connor was right

>>54299896
>except when people are baiting, trolling, or doing anything bad, then it's never Holoanything.

>>54330562
The difference is so huge that you can't simply ignore it even if you wouldn't care about the numbers at all.

>>54300415
>Its holo. Starting at 400k+ sub is a given.
Why should it be a given? Whatever happened to people earning their way instead of getting gifted a massive and, eventually dead and meaningless, follow count head start?

>>54305505
They will be the only successful EN3 channel.

I wonder if the new hires are already looking to buy a house in a good neighborhood in their area/state. I’d probably max out my credit card as soon as i’m monetized.

>Hyped myself up for EN2
>Watch them for a month, committing to almost every stream
>Notice they're no longer acting like they did at debut
>Lose all interest
It's gonna happen with EN3 as well. They'll go all-in with the personas, then flanderize themselves, then get comfortable and just become yet another regular streamer.
It always fucking happens. It's one of the biggest problems and HoloEN has yet to address it.

REMINDER

>>54335195
Maybe the managers should approve their projects

>>54305505
Its kinda messed up, does that mean each of them make 50% less than a normal solo channel

EN vtubers were a mistake.

>>54337012
The dogs will save the EN vtubing.

Hololive hasn't won a single streamer award and Vshoujo has like 4 already.
"Only relevant vtubing agency" lmao

>>54322366
>>54322399
This board is the ad then, enjoy living in a giant ad campaign

>>54298639
I'm glad no poor girl got the kiara/sana treatment of having a shitty model that kills you before even debuting.

>>54337322
I too choose which vtubers to watch based on what twitch streamer circlejerk nepotism awards they get.

>>54340540
As opposed to which normie filled dead sub count is higher?

>>54335195
original gura was so much fun

>>54298639
>Hololive is the only relevant vtubing agency. Simple as.
Why are companies so much worse?

>>54333391
>>except when people are baiting, trolling, or doing anything bad, then it's never Holoanything.
We call them holoantis.

holodrones

>>54340713
>normie
Go back.

>>54309999
THE GRIEVANCES

>>54330562
NIJISEETHE

>>54337012
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE
NIJISEETHE

>>54300104
I don't need to buy one. I get them for free.

>>54299999
Quints of truth

>>54298639
Always has been

>>54344465
Hololive as a religion does not sound bad. As long as best girl remains CEO.

A benevolent leader can make the best religion, loved by all his followers. While a greedy bastard keeps them in poverty, requiring boot-lickers to keep them in line, Making them believe it's the norm.

>>54299999
A market is still a market. You'll be surprised how many gachikois they can have.

>>54351648
INSHAYAGOO

>>54351648
A breeding population isolated in vaults or on generation ships in space with nothing from Earth but Hololive could very well give us this