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I want male EN corporate vtubers so fucking bad. Like so fucking bad. I want to understand and see how a good male vtuber can flourish in this industry. So many male online personality that is famous but none in the vtuber industry.

>> No.5428451

>>5428379
and another rrat about bootlicker sell out will born

>> No.5428483

>>5428379
Same

>> No.5428515

You're getting males in NijiEN so you can stop crying about it now
>T-they won't find anyone good
Cope

>> No.5428523

>>5428379
Just fucking look at holostars
Fucking look at their pathetic subs, bottom of the barrel stuff. Even the lowest female vtuber in terms of subs (Anya) can laugh at all of them. Nobody wants to watch guys

>> No.5428558

>>5428523
But those are JP. I want EN. That's why I don't count any ID or JP male vtubers in Niji.

>> No.5428580

>>5428523
Niji males are doing very well though so the assumption
>Nobody wants to watch guys
Is just factually wrong.

>> No.5428602

>>5428523
kuzuha has better numbers than almost everyone in hololive.

>> No.5428618

So whats the usual requirements for these things?

>> No.5428637

>>5428515
They'll dig up the corpse of Demolition D and make him do it

>> No.5428644

>>5428618
Be entertaining and don't sound like a fag.

>> No.5428657

>>5428618
charisma.
good at video games.
good sense of humour.
good at apex.
good voice.
good singer.
not an EOP.

>> No.5428671

>>5428657
it's basically unicorn

>> No.5428720

>>5428644
>>5428657
Guess Im never gonna be a vtuber then

>> No.5428728
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5428728

>>5428379
I want pandering, cute male EN chuubas but I have no hope even though I have a favorite male in JP ID and KR.

>> No.5428749

>>5428379
i have no faith in the people applying for this, it's going to be the most bland group of people who just regurgitate the same shitty anime/vtuber memes everyone else say

>> No.5428756

>>5428728
There's plenty of unironic faggots in the western vtuber scene so your wish might not be so far away

>> No.5428785

>>5428756
No, they cannot be gay. That defeats the purpose.

>> No.5428809

>>5428785
How could you post Utako and say such lies

>> No.5428848

>>5428558
I thought their fans are mostly EOPs anyway? What's the difference?

>> No.5428863

>>5428657
Do they really need to be good at singing? Is anybody gonna watch a dude's karaoke stream?

>> No.5428880

>>5428863
>Is anybody gonna watch a dude's karaoke stream?
Yes

>> No.5428892

>>5428848
>mostly EOPs anyway?
Male NijiJP fans are not EOP. Male NijiID fans are ESL.

>> No.5428894

>>5428863
you can get away with it once you get enough female gachis since they'll find it cute even if you aren't that good but are trying your best.

>> No.5428907

>>5428809
The speculation and teetee makes it more delicious and would get more fans than if they debuted actual gays, I'm just looking out for NijiEN. Notice how ChroNoir the most popular males overseas have dozens of clips frothing over mundane interactions. Pretending they're gay is the best part. It's the forbidden fruit.

>> No.5428930

>>5428863
Do you know what Ensemble Stars is?

>> No.5428942

>>5428671
If that's your definition of "unicorn" I don't understand what normal would be.

If I wanted chat to stream wouldn't I just go to a PC cafe and just... invade their space?

>> No.5428982

>>5428907
I think you can get an actual faggot, have him do the fujobait and not have him actually get with anyone, I understand your meaning though, not every pairing would appeal to every fujo so it's best to keep them hanging on rather than having anything be official outright

>> No.5429020

>>5428942
>what normal would be
redditor

>> No.5429046

>>5428982
You understand. I hope Anycolor understands too. From how females have started watching streamers more often during the pandemic as well as the already existing fanbase for idol/fujobait games, this is an untapped market.

>> No.5429061

Not gonna lie I just want to ship

>> No.5429078

>>5429020
Are Redditors really normalfags? I thought they were just losers in a socially acceptable way

>> No.5429101

>>5429078
>normalfags losers in a socially acceptable way
Yes

>> No.5429120

>>5429078
They're as normal as people who laugh at the same unfunny jokes every day can be I guess.

>> No.5429194

>>5428892
No I'm talking about Holostars. Their fans are mostly EOPs and they don't seem to be that successful.

>> No.5429278

>>5428523
Holostars is unsuccessful because Cover doesn't care about them and puts them in their own little male ghetto lol. Males do great in Nijisanji.

>> No.5429350

do you think nijiEN will recline once they start regularly collabing with the males EN?

>> No.5429358

>>5429194
Holostars failed to capture a JP audience and EOPs cannot fully enjoy a JP streamer hence their small numbers. Apparently China really likes them but they contribute little to their numbers.
Nijisanji males started off slowish but look at them now, many of them are super successful and are part of the face of Nijisanji. They have their JP fanbase secured. They get clipped in other languages.
ID has a substantial ID fanbase as well but many of them speak English so they've got some EOPs. Korea does not like vtubers and NijiKR has some pretty fluent JP/English speaking livers, so their fans are JP, KR, and EOP.

>> No.5429377

>>5429350
who knows, maybe. I just don't think westerners will care about male NijiEN members like Japanese people/chinks like NijiJPs and NijiCNs

>> No.5429379

>>5429350
They've already collabed with Bonnivier and talked plenty about their male Niji senpai so no

>> No.5429410

I really think male vtuber are turbo chill, no egirl camwhore bullshit. Just chill retards playing vidyas

>> No.5429470

>>5428523
even homostars have better subs than 90% of indies out there

>> No.5429471 [DELETED] 

>>542927
Beside collab with the main branch(those are privilege only for the girls stopping being a fucking collab beggar) holoID are actually being treated worse than holostar and they can still succeed anyway.

>> No.5429486

>>5429471
Enlighten me on how bad ID branch is treated

>> No.5429494

>>5429278
Why would anyone want to work for a company like Cover where they treat you like garbage and half your colleagues don't want to talk to you? Is the barrier of entry to Nijisanji that high?

>> No.5429528

>>5428749
>just regurgitate the same shitty anime/vtuber memes everyone else say
man I really hate how most vtubers do this
just repeat the same jokes over and over and the dumb fucks in chat who are entertained by it

>> No.5429674

>>5429410
wait until some low rate KPop fagboy think it was a good idea

>> No.5429825

>>5429674
*exept Korea
Forgot about this "country"

>> No.5429901

>>5429825
it's not "country" it's worldwide plastic surgery business corpo

>> No.5429932

>>5429674
Korea hates vtubers so much they're called dullahans over there because they're "headless".

>> No.5430396

>>5429932
Dullahans are a separate entity. Essentialy png streamers which are more popular than vtupers there and predate them.

>> No.5436619

>>5429932
But why? Is it because vtubers came from Japan?

>> No.5443943

>>5428863
It's possible to not singing and still be popular. Mayuzumi, Ex Albio, and Ibrahim don't sing yet, they're pretty popular.

>> No.5444483

>>5429494
I think Stars themselves even thinking that it would be in this particular position at all.

>> No.5444565

>>5429494
Less competition and supposedly have more focus on music (being "idols" and all). Nijisanji is still the most successful agency when it comes to male vtubers and the slots are limited.

>> No.5444612

>>5428379
Start your own company.

>> No.5444644

>>5428657
>not an EOP.
most important

>> No.5444709

>>5444483
>>5429494
I'm almost sure holostars would have disbanded if the overseas audience hadn't come to save them.

>> No.5444729

>>5429932
I never understood this saying that Koreans hate VTubers, why exactly? Is it because that place has overglorified those KPop groups to the point something like VTubers disgust them?

>> No.5444791

>>5428523
Hololive are a female idol company, of course their men suck. We're talking about Nijisanji, whose men are talented and loved.

>> No.5444833

>>5444612
my company will be called hover and the vtuber group will be called culostars, same principle but all of the boys have fat asses, you in?

>> No.5444857

I just want an English shotachuuba with a cute voice.

>> No.5444908

I just want EN gwelu and kenmochi....

>> No.5444965
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5444965

>>5428379
my rrat is they are going to pick NijiEN Female rejects who failed the previous auditions, doing a boy voice and tell all the male western indies to get fucked
literally every org has said "yeah we'll do a male gen" but then never ever delivers

>> No.5444977

>>5444729
Rather that Kpop maybe it's about the streamer scene? Like they apperently taking E-Sports streamer really serious in Korea

>>5444791
With Holostars, it more of are they being helped and supported enough by their parent company.

>> No.5444988

>>5444729
some insecure plastic fleshbag worries their "bias" will get overshadowed by some "perfect" visuals web novels grade virtual bae.

>> No.5445023

>>5429194
They're not successful because Cover segregated them from the others.
They were banned from collabing with hololive for a period of time. Weren't in any kinds of events or whatever. Even the newest niji males are more popular the oldest holo males.

>> No.5445035

>>5444791
>their men suck
their guys are stronger streamers than some of the girls, it's just that cover appeals to unicorn gachikois who want pure women and refuses to ever market or help out their male talent
they basically hand them a design and avatar and tell them to figure out the rest

>> No.5445100

>>5445035
Ogey

>> No.5445153

>>5428749
Same thing was thought before HoloEN became a thing. Stop being such a downer.

>> No.5445224

>>5444965
That would be pretty funny to be honest.
>>5444988
Probably. There'll be no point in doing plastic surgery when you can just hide your face behind cartoon avatar after all.

>> No.5445225

>>5444908
EN Gwelu is a tall order. How many married English-speaking weebs with a good sense for humor are out there?

>> No.5445246

I want someone who DOESN'T have an American accent. That alone would be a charm point.

>> No.5445294

>>5445225
one can only hope...

>> No.5445334

>>5444908
Those are quite hurdle to take, especially Gwelu with his Flame proof will and tenacity.

>> No.5445344

>>5445225
>>5445294
You will get gigguk and you will rike it.

>> No.5445348

>>5445246
ogey, but it's going to be dutch and pajeet accents

>> No.5445441

>>5445246
expect all of them to talk in a non-regional American accent since that's seen globally as the default accent for English

>> No.5445451

>>5445348
I lul'd
HARD

>> No.5445455

>>5445035
Matsuri and Fubuki do collab with them. Other girls are avoiding them by their own will. Cover only said 'no collab for x amount of time' when they debut and that's it, they haven't done shit since.

>> No.5445467

>>5444988
But did an incident like that actually happen already? Like was there any Korean VTuber that got harrassed by KPop/KDrama faggots?

>> No.5445525

>>5444729
The thing with vtubing is that it's an intrinsically weeb thing, and most Korean weebs did their reps and just watch JPs.
The non-weeb Koreans won't watch vtubers cuz they're either coomers who watches the 3D shit on afreeca (who are called BJs, I shit you not), or they watch PNGtuber dullahans, where the gameplay is the main focus with no reaction cam/moving avatar.
If Cover came into the market with hololive/stars KR I'm not even sure their idol shtick would get many domestic viewers as opposed to EOP k-pop stans, but then again they've been having a surge in popularity over there after that Amelia news article. Honestly, what I'm really surprised about is that no Korean music label has gone and released a virtual idol group yet, I'd imagine paying to get models made for a group would be a lot cheaper than having them all get plastic surgery

>> No.5445576 [SPOILER] 
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5445576

>Niji finally shows all of the male EN vtubers
>the members stream one by one
>the last member stream start
>Hey hey people
How would you react?

>> No.5445657

>>5445576
>implying they wouldn't do a fraction of research and find his old videos where he yells the N word and talks about the Jewish Question

>> No.5445724

>>5445657
He's black. He can say nigger all he wants. Japs hate jews so it's okay.

>> No.5445754

>>5445525
>afreeca
I remember some of the stolen live cams where some of them actually doing live orgy.

>> No.5445839

>>5445455
>'no collab for x amount of time' when they debut
Isn't this one of reason that stunt their earlier growth?
And even if Cover said they haven't done anything else, I'm sure some of manager would discourage both Stars and Live to collab even if they want to

>> No.5445903

>>5445839
they are technically allowed to but stars are not allowed to start interactions or request collabs on their own
the girls must come to them first, and no girls other than Fubuki, Mori, and Matsuri are willing to risk gachikoi money to initiate a collab with someone who has a fraction of their viewerbase

>> No.5445989

Seriously though, why do you think male vtuber will not be entertaining? I'm sure there's a lot of obscure but good male content creators out there. Just do it like those no facecam content creators but with cartoon avatar on the corner of the screen instead.

>> No.5446013

>>5445989
they're coomers and idolfags who can only think with their dick

>> No.5446103

>>5445989
Male vtubers are already entertaining, but idolfags are loud.

>> No.5446268

women only wriggle their asses on screen for the pigs who throw money at them. no matter how hard they try, they will never be able to produce kino like this
https://streamable.com/8w6wpz

>> No.5446333

>>5445989
You know prickposter on /a/ who always appear on sales thread? It's those people.
There are also people who argue that Male are interesting but somehow wasted by being Vtuber.

>> No.5446475

>>5446268
I don't understand why this shit is free...

>> No.5447672

>>5445246
Gonna go for it with my Irish accent and get cut during the interview process because my English isn't good enough.

>> No.5447743
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5447743

>>5428379
applying with a character I make just for the application, so I can get the practice and not get an interview

>> No.5447844

>>5445989
because i have 0 examples of english speaking males who can do vtubing well and arent cringy
someone posted one on this board that seemed okay and the next day he got called out for flirting with several girls in dms which is cringe as fuck

>> No.5447917

>>5447844
>0 examples of western male vtubers I know of
damn that's wild and definitely has nothing to do with the fact that there have been literally $0 spent by organizations so far on that market to develop it at all
completely unrelated

>> No.5448001

>>5428379
im hopeful but realistic about this to be honest.

best case scenario, we get a funny vtuber like simpleflips, vinny, joel, etc...

on the other side, its more likely that the one that makes it its an anituber-tier personality and those are all boring

>> No.5448025

>>5447743
For someone who would be interested in streaming/vtubing just as a hobby and something to try out once I have more time, how do you go about creating a character? That's the one thing I think I would struggle with, creating some character and maintaining him during a stream? I feel like with that stuff, you have to have some acting ability to go alongside being entertaining? Or have I been made ignorant about how much effort actually go into characters due to how much work Mayuzumi puts in?

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>>5445989
Nobody argues that they will not be entertaining. There are dozens of other entertaining things that don't require you to watch some other dude play games for hours on end like a potato. Female vtubers are a superior alternative to moeshit anime, male vtubers are an inferior alternative to watching high production quality videos and playing the fucking games yourself or with friends.

>> No.5448105

>>5448025
have you never played a TTRPG? just do that come up with a gimmick or design in your head, map to some type of existing archetype, write about 3 sentences explaining what type of person they are, then make a voice for them

>> No.5448358

>>5447844
well they can go the role playing route as 40K angry marine -esque and attract some nerds that have the reputations for actually spent ridiculous amount of cash for minis.....of course with a solid plan B if GW suddenly strike them with copyrights claims.

>> No.5448494

>>5447917
According to these threads there are tens of thousands of people at least ready to throw money at a funny anime man. None of the indies are capable enough to capitalize on it without corporate management?

>> No.5448604

>>5448494
Because none try to pander to the western male gamer market. Holy fuck stop trying to pander to anime japanese weeb. Go full western. Don't call yourself a vtuber.

>> No.5448693

>>5429494
Well Suzaku left for that reason and he's way more successful than the stars on his new account.

>> No.5448755

>>5428379
Sseth as a VTuber

>> No.5448840
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5448840

>male western vtubers can't be good!

>> No.5448873

>>5447917
show me 1 male indie who is entertaining, talented, and not retarded and don't say ais riale

>> No.5449018

There absolutely are a bunch of fujos ready to throw money at virtual men. Just look at the comments for the auditions pages on youtube. Not everyone's willing to waddle through indie hell especially if their normalfags who want a large community.
Just look at corpse's explosive growth, Male vtubers can succeed in the west.

>> No.5449077

>>5448873
There's like a million, by law of big numbers there's gotta be at least one good one, right...?
Maybe all the good outside of the land of the rising reverse age pyramid prefer to just stream normally.

>> No.5449103

>>5448873
little_s
hazard hornet
admiral bahroo
paper bag
caleb horus
spacer
all of these are regularly discussed on /vt/

>> No.5449110

>>5445576
Finally, a vtuber who plays my favorite 90's/early 2000's PC games competently.

>> No.5449289

>>5449103
>spacer
Isn't that the guy who fucked off after getting into his oshi's pussy?

>> No.5449585

>>5449289
If he is that'd automatically make him the most based indie, not even a contest.

>> No.5449727

>>5449103
and what are their talents exactly other than playing games? and in spacers case only streaming to fuck his oshi

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5449782

>>5448025
>>5448025
As for looks, the last thing you want is to try following a trend in regards to design, play something that actualy suits your tastes since you'll have that face on your name for life, just have something that isn't Some Guy with a Hoodie or pic related, for everything that's sacred (unless you have a S-tier character designer that can put a cool eye-catching twist to it, but even then). As for acting, keeping up the character shouldn't be too difficult one way or the other, but it's a good idea to have a character whose "personality" isn't too restricted by its origin or looks, like an alien down on his luck trying to fit in by wearing random human clothes can be roleplayed whichever way possible. In fact, a lot of people like when the vtuber breaks character. For an instance:
>My character looks like some badass demon dude, but I get scared easily so when I play a horror game I'll end up doing a girly high-pitched scream
That can be an amazing clip-worthy moment, just due to the gap moe of its contrast. Not a guarantee, of course.

>> No.5449807

>>5449727
>other than playing games?
being entertaining? which is important as an entertainer?
you don't have to be a jack of all trades voice actor and singer to be a vtuber, get your head out of your ass with the idea they all have to be idols

>> No.5450034

>>5448840
>male
>female avatar

>> No.5450092

>>5448693
I won't argue with the fact that Suzaku is more successful than the stars right now. However, let's not forget that he has been using his current account since 2013 so I don't think it's right to say he's on a "new" account.

>> No.5450453

>>5445246
Hold my italian accent

>> No.5451981

chop your dick if you have a useless one

>> No.5452023

>>5451981
put a bullet in your head if not

>> No.5452181

>>5449103
Why haven't these guys reached the NUMBERS of indie girls? I guess no one wants to watch english males.

>> No.5452565

>>5452181
bahroo has higher numbers than all of vshojo unless they're doing an event
hornet doesn't stream anymore because he had a poorly designed model where his face wasn't shown 90% of the time
the others started on fresh accounts and are at a similar place to girls who started at the same time

>> No.5452611

>>5452565
Bahroo has a viewerbase since 2013. He doesn't count.

>> No.5452643

>>5452611
>bahroo doesn't count since he's had a viewerbase for a long time
>still counts long time streamers like nyanners and other female indies who were twitch streamers before converting to vtubing
ogey

>> No.5453028

>>5452643
Who said I counted Nyanners?

>> No.5453045

>>5428379
EN male would just be a femboy.
Have fun acting gay

>> No.5457900

>>5444965
>literally every org has said
Who? Hololive hasn't outside "maybe one day", and Nijisanji hasn't promised it until, you know, now.
Unless you count the "Gender doesn't matter!" but that's dumb.

>> No.5457991

>>5453045
>acting

>> No.5458052

>>5448840
>man riding on half a decade's worth of success decides to use a Live2D
>SEE MALE VTUBERS ARE GOOD
sick of you dumbasses who only started watching streams because anime girls started doing them

>> No.5458152

>>5457900
recently, cyberlive and a few other orgs have said "yes we are doing guys as soon as we get a successful girl gen going so sub to them!"

>> No.5458436

>>5458052
Most (good) vtubers made content before debuting, what's your point

>> No.5458926

>>5458436
It's the same ol content creator everyone knows just making content on any other day of the week using a platform that they've always used as a regular content creator.
If anything it just highlights how bad a lot of indies are at actually keeping people's attention and being funny, and the semi-incestuous indie networks don't help either.

>> No.5459313

>>5428379
>Boring, pasty, silverhaired, K-pop bait pretty boys.

If this is the future of EN male corporate vtubers I hope it fails.

>Nijisanji

Figures.

>> No.5459476

>>5428523
Guaranteed replies

>> No.5459530

>>5452643
>still counts long time streamers like nyanners and other female indies who were twitch streamers before converting to vtubing
Except I don't, and nobody should. Same reason I don't count mafumafu/

>> No.5459566

>>5458436
The fuck are you talking about you spastic?
If they succeeded without being a vtuber, of course they can succeed as a vtuber, they're just carrying their audience over you fucking retard.

>> No.5459638

>>5428379
If they somehow take Corpse Husband or 1:1 copy of him, can they make it?

>> No.5459844

>>5459638
Corpse Husband is a menhera so no

>> No.5459922

Do (actual)homos pay as much as fujos

>> No.5460028

>>5459313
Wow you’re so patrician

>> No.5460085

>>5459566
Now you know how to be a good vtuber, male or female

>> No.5460182

>>5459922
Who knows, but all the people throwing money at Fuwa Minato's 3D could not have all been women.

>> No.5460302

>>5459922
There are probably more straight men who throw superchats at male vtubers (the ones in OP at least) then there are legit homos. And some fudanshi who are only into 2d

>> No.5461083

>>5428379
Be the change you want to see anon.

>> No.5461319

>>5459922
No, but because fujos are a big money otaku audience not because homos throw less than average.

>> No.5461429

>>5460028
Your sarcasm aside I just want someone not put through a fuck boi check list.

I want S O V L damnit!

>> No.5461676

>>5461319
50% of the world are women
Something like 0.1% of men are gay

>> No.5461709

>>5461429
Like it or not those kinds of designs are what’s popular and that most artists like designing (at least as far as Japan goes)
Not that I’m knocking the more unconventional designs, but I feel like there’s a loud minority of people here that give these designs too much shit, when there are actually are the kinds of designs you’re looking for that you could be watching instead

>> No.5461835

>>5461676
What does that have to do with how much money they throw around? The point was just that fujos are more likely to throw akasupas than most groups, while homo males are probably around average, maybe a little high.

>> No.5461849

>>5459313
Ah yes, as opposed to boring, pasty, silverhaired otakubait pretty girls.
Bizarre, truly.

>> No.5461883

>>5459313
>>5461429
You know Nijisanji has other types of male too right? And the ones in the OP aren't even the upcoming chuubas, they're just the most popular Nijisanji males.

>> No.5462186

>>5428379
Don't worry anon. I am going to make your dreams come true.

>> No.5462225

>>5461883
>they're just the most popular Nijisanji males
Yashikizu... Ago...

>> No.5462312

>>5445246
I-Is a slight kraut accent fine with you? Asking for a friend.

>> No.5462328

>>5462312
Nein

>> No.5462533

>>5445576
When is he going to release a new video

>> No.5462810

>>5428379
Technically Nux Taku is the most subscribed male Vtuber

>> No.5462914
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>>5462328
Well that's a bummer

>> No.5462939

What kind of male chuuba would you like Nijisanji EN to debut? Even if it's not realistic.

I'd like
>Shota/Shonen with cute voice, virgin-like appeal, and who is into scary games.
That's right, someone like Mashiro but make it EN.

>> No.5462958

>>5428379
I wanna give it a go but I can feel myself pussying it out. My idea is a fantasy character (like a wizard) who absolutely never breaks kayfabe. And I mean NEVER, to autistic lengths. I'm a huge card game autist and also a TTRPG fanatic. I don't really have an accent and I've been told by women that my voice is extremely smooth. Considering how rare EN chuubas are, I think the bar might be low enough for me to get in.

On the other hand, I don't know JP and my streaming "equipment" such as it is, consists of a webcam and a smartphone. Do I even have a shot, or am I just deluding myself?

>> No.5463096

>>5462939
Femboy/trap or an all-out design like Zuthar's

>> No.5463108

>>5462939
Otoko no ko, but in the "Very feminine but clearly an adult man" sense, not a full trap or "drew a girl, added a penis" sense. Like Kaoru from Holostars (RIP)

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>>5462810
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>> No.5463140

>>5448840
That's a babiniku

>> No.5463234

>>5462939
EN Gwelu, with creative stream ideas, teaching other chuubas math or physics and "covers" that break expectations.

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>>5462958
You'd like Mayuzumi, he's the most dedicated to kayfabe in the vtubing business I think. He's even roped several livers into his story.
However, Anycolor will not help you much with your equipment and it would be a bit of a debuff if you don't know any Japanese, even though Finana got in.

>> No.5463250

>>5428515
ssethtzeentach for NijiEN

>> No.5464508

>>5463240
if there existed a western male chuuba out there that's even half as based as mayuzumi wouldn't he already be massively popular? or is this the sort of thing that doesn't appeal to western audience?

>> No.5464553

>>5462939
Management sim autist
Someone with an interest in science or math for teaching streams

>> No.5464641

>>5462939
crossick but male

>> No.5464644

>>5464508
What 'roleplay' streamers exist period in the west? Have any found success? I haven't heard of any so I can't say it does.

>> No.5464672

>>5464508
Even Mayuzumi probably wouldn’t be popular if he didn’t have the Nijisanji brand behind him solely because most people would’ve never heard about him in the first place

>> No.5464689

>>5464641
That would be too based for Western sensibilities.

>> No.5464886

>>5448693
>New account

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>>5428523
It's a bit funny Holostar have so few subs yet on average they are so much more talented than all of Hololive combined. They are good at games, play various instruments and sing like professionals.
Of-course I understand no one cares about men, myself included, but is still funny how outclassed women always are at literally everything. This is why sometimes I wished I was gay but instead I see pussy and all of a sudden my dick is the one doing the thinking.

>> No.5464979

>>5464644
I would say that Dr Disrespect is the most popular 'roleplay' streamer in the west,

>> No.5464981

You people keep saying Sseth as a corporate vtuber, that'd suck ass because he'll have to nerf himself way too much by not shitting on the occasional AAA game he's forced to play, and he's at his peak when he has time to run a script and add as many jokes as possible.

>> No.5464994

>>5464979
PewDiePie and Markiplier too

>> No.5465025 [DELETED] 

>>5444709
That's true. Before HoloEN their numberes averaged around 3-5k but after HoloEN all of sudden everyone have over a million subs and have 10k viewers on averages and some 40k on average. None on Nijisanji pull these kind of numbers.

>> No.5465054

>>5464894
They just don't do much. Aside from Rikka's music connections, Astel playing in Apex tournaments, and Roberu's collabs, how are new viewers supposed to find Holostars? Who other than people who heard of Hololive and scrolled down the shitty English wiki are going to find a Miyabi stream?

>> No.5465217

>>5428863
>Is anybody gonna watch a dude's karaoke stream?
You've obviously never caught any of Mofumofu's karaoke streams.

>> No.5465435

>>5462939
I'm working on an application for a professor/teacher type character. I really want to do streams where I read stories or poetry to the viewers. I think that could find a real niche, relaxing and educational streams. I know I posted about this idea in the first thread about NijiEN male auditions, and people seemed supportive, so I'm going to go ahead with an application.

Would people watch/listen to storytime streams? I feel like that could be maximum comfy. I mean, I love reading to people, so even if I don't make it, I'll probably start streaming anyways.

I have fun ideas for music streams too, so hopefully that would help me stand out.

>> No.5465478

>>5465435
>Would people watch/listen to storytime streams?
I would. I'm too lazy to read books, so it'd be great to hear you read interesting stories while I cook or do other stuff.

>> No.5465499

>>5428523
>tokyo ghoul blocks ur path

>> No.5465580

>>5465435
Good luck either way, anon, give them hell!

>> No.5465603

>>5465435
that sounds really awesome actually, i hope you get in

>> No.5465625

>>5465435
For cozy night time streams sure, but if it was the only thing you did people would get bored in an instant.

>> No.5465704

>>5428637
I wish

>> No.5465708

>>5465435
Is Nijisanji streaming only? For stuff like this you need to put out a high effort standout video to get people's attention regardless of whether you're a vtuber or not.

>> No.5465713

>>5465435
Looking forward to your collab with Gundou.

>> No.5465732

>>5465478
Nice, that's good to hear. It would probably be older literature, stuff that's in the public domain, because copyright is a bitch. But that means we've got hundreds of years of great stuff to choose from.

For music streams, the things I have in mind are doing live recording sessions, where I multitrack record myself as a quartet. I love singing barbershop quartets, and would show the whole process. So imagine you've got the sheet music behind the avatar, record one track, clone the avatar, now you've got two singing, record the second track so the viewers can hear the track being built up in real time. Then at the end, we could listen to the end product. I feel like that would be a lot of fun to watch, but I could be wrong.

I would also want to do classical music karaoke streams, but that might be tricky, since I can't imagine there's very many good backing tracks out there. I can play piano alright enough to record my own in advance of streams, but that would be a ton of work. Might just commission one of my other musician friends to do that.

>>5465625
Yeah, obviously I'd still do regular gaming streams. Storytime would be maybe once a week at a set time. I just want to do something more than the usual Minecraft and Apex content mills. I love older games (8-bit, 16-bit) because I'm old, hopefully there's an audience for that.

>> No.5465760

>>5428379
When's Vshounen going to happen?
Nux Taku, Cdawg, AnthonyPadilla, and Takahata101 would be a great first set of tubers.

>> No.5465810

>>5465760
Reading this made my stomach hurt

>> No.5465825

>>5465732
>>For music streams, the things I have in mind are doing live recording sessions, where I multitrack record myself as a quartet. I love singing barbershop quartets, and would show the whole process. So imagine you've got the sheet music behind the avatar, record one track, clone the avatar, now you've got two singing, record the second track so the viewers can hear the track being built up in real time. Then at the end, we could listen to the end product. I feel like that would be a lot of fun to watch, but I could be wrong.

So something like Eli singing with herself? That would be awesome.
https://youtu.be/LwoRyL4hjHA
https://youtu.be/ri_E_XmrMoU

>> No.5465861

>>5465732
Damn man, keep some ideas to yourself before someone runs off with them, they sound too based. Some Nijis do piano streams so there's nothing wrong with just sitting down and playing.

>> No.5466091

>>5465825
Yeah, very much like that, only you'd see the track being constructed in real-time. Here's some examples of the types of music I'd do.

All Through the Night (Welsh lullabye)
https://voca.ro/1dRCdIf1kXav

Silver Threads Among the Gold (barbershop)
https://vocaroo.com/1e0Hm7thMpCT

Not exactly popular music, but I feel like the novelty of watching it come together track by track could keep people interested.

>> No.5466094

>>5465732
Niji did release book reading voice packs previously. The public domain idea is great, I love reading older literature. I imagine the largest roadblock for reading streams might be trying to get the publishers permission to read it as you're effectively publishing a free audiobook version, so not needing to do that is convenient. I wonder how popular older book readings are actually going to be though, it seems like it might just end up falling into the asmr crowd.

>> No.5466189

>>5465435
>>5465732
That sounds really nice anon, I have to admit for me it would boil down to how much I like your voice, I'm very fond of books and even for ones I'm not interested in, listening in sounds good.
Your approach to karaoke sounds nice as well, and older games would make me tune in, you genuinely sound like you want to entertain so I hope you find an audience.
You can feel free to just stream piano practice, its content that I really enjoy and some others do too, you dont have to worry about being perfect.
Good luck

>> No.5466192

>>5465732
Wait, are you the same anon who put that vocaroo of a barbershop quartet cover of Shine on me in another thread??

>> No.5466268

>>5465760
they sort of have one with Silvers brother nothing official yet though

>> No.5466277

>>5466192
Yup, that's me. Been thinking about the best approach to take for an audition. It's hard to try to keep this to just 5 minutes.

>> No.5466294
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>>5462939
I want a Yuusha

>> No.5466363

>>5466277
Oh man, I hope you get in, those vocaroos sounded incredible and your ideas are pretty creative and interesting (even if you would probably end up as more of a niche liver) and I would love to see you get in, would definitely attend any karaoke or music stream you do as much as possible.

>> No.5466385

>>5445225
Hanas Dad

>> No.5466389

>>5466277
even if you don't get in you should think about streaming because your ideas are interesting

>> No.5466583

>>5464508
>if there existed a western male chuuba out there that's even half as based as mayuzumi wouldn't he already be massively popular?
yes
>or is this the sort of thing that doesn't appeal to western audience?
Dr Disrespect is comes pretty close but doesnt use an avatar

>> No.5466669

>>5465708
No, anyone can make videos if they want to, but streaming is the easy low effort route, only Setsuna did videos as her main content.

>> No.5466684

>>5464894
>No one cares about male,myself included
That the part of the problem thou, people really just see them as Male first than are they entertaining or not.
Like what you said they are more talented, but people never give them a chance at all.
Then you have the sentiment that "if you enjoying male content you are gay or fujo" as if you can't even enjoying male simply as entertainer. This sentiment somehow spreaded on many japanese otaku related media

>> No.5466722

>>5466684
That sentiment is more found here than everywhere else, or else males would have far more females watching them. Not even Kanae has more females than males watching him.

>> No.5466815

>>5465760
Hopefully long after the NijiEN male auditions end, because I don't want them stealing any potential male talent from Nijisanji applicants.

>> No.5466820

>>5466363
>>5466389
Thanks! I think I'll probably give streaming a try regardless of if I get in, even if it's just as a PNGtuber to start. I just think it would be really nice to give people bedtime storytime streams.

>>5465708
I'm trying to teach myself some simple video editing skills right now. Doing a split screen for a barbershop quartet is pretty easy in post, but I'm still figuring out how to do that live in OBS.

>> No.5467028

>>5446268
Holy fucking Cringe, I couldn't make it through half of that clip

>> No.5467139

>>5467028
yeah, it's fucking cringe that he uploaded the unsynced version of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZXCSK0o8so

>> No.5467167

>>5466722
Not really, you see it on gacha generals or all girl anime thread.

>> No.5467193

>>5467167
When I mean here I mean this entire site.

>> No.5467238

>>5446268
based
>>5467028
cringe
>>5467139
based

>> No.5467286

>>5467139
absolutely based

>> No.5467372

>>5467193
I see it sometimes on twitter, meaning those people exist outside this site, they are just more louder here.
Even then the is also shared by Japanese especially the Unicorns and some Yuri fans.

>> No.5467487

>>5467139
I can dig it

>> No.5468109

>>5467372
You said people never give them a chance yet Nijisanji's top performers are male. Just because people call them gay doesn't mean no one watches them.
If the problem is the EN fanbase thinking that, if Anycolor markets their EN males as 'bros' or regular streamers just with an anime avatar, they may find success, rather than pandering to girls.

>> No.5468136

it isn't a bad idea cause Cover treats Holostars like shit on purpose, and if you are a guy who wants to try this vtubing thing, what options do you have?

>> No.5468257

>>5462939
Funny guy that can sometimes be sarcastic and can banter with viewers. No need to have any gimmick, don't shove it into peoples faces, it'll just put most people off, just be normal. Either have a gimmick and subtly show it or maybe do it in a funny way like Fuwa where he jokingly sang about him being a host in his intro.

>> No.5468902

>>5468109
It less of no one watch it, more of discouraging them, i guess i didn't or forget ti make that point clear.
Because i personally didn't see any reason why some people generalize people who watch male vtuber as cuck or gay, other that discourgement.

As for giving a chance's, that pretty much the difference between Stars and Niji males, It wasn't just viewer but also the company.

>> No.5469012

>>5468902
I feel like most of it is shitposting with the norm, if some people say it everyone will say it.

>> No.5469019

>>5466189
>>5466094
I wonder how old a story viewers would tolerate. Is this reading (in translation) of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight hard to follow? Keep in mind, it would probably be easier if there was text on the screen. I ended up getting carried away and reading the entire first part of the story, no need to listen to all of it.

https://vocaroo.com/1aVgCU6ZRo7E

>> No.5469151

>>5468109
>>5468902
The same points come up every discussion about men but let's just repeat them again.
The western market is not the Japanese market. Male vtubers performing poorly is exclusively an EN sphere thing. They do fine in every other region, relatively speaking, even if you ignore Nijisanji entirely. People forget that there've been popular male vtubers since Kizuna Ai was around in Japan.

Another thing people forget is that Nijisanji owes a lot of its viewership to people who don't actually watch other vtubers. The brand is huge in Japan and it's watched by regular students and working adults who aren't attached to the Otaku conciousness at all.

I don't know WHY men do bad here and I'm not making any guesses but these are very important things to keep in mind in any discussion about nijien males and how much potential they have.

>> No.5469405

>>5469151
>I don't know WHY men do bad here
Did they even do worse than women pre-2020? I watched vtubers, but I didn't really check any discussions of them until then. I strongly suspect it's literally just that it went from entirely obscure to the one wildly popular group being all female, so people go "vtubers = female, males can't succeed".
IIRC Japan even HAD the same thing, including people saying it would never work, just years ago when Nijisanji started adding males. And of course, it's obvious how that worked out now.

>> No.5470063

>>5464894
Forgive me for sounding like a twtiterfag but Cover needs to give the gays what they want. Give the men some love for fuck sake.

>> No.5470080

>>5469405
Not really, both are equally struggled. With exception of 4 heavenly king since they have head start.
Death of .LIVE is where stuff like unicorn and yuri fans started to entering vtubers audiance.

>> No.5470122

>>5470063
They really do. It makes me sad seeing how little love Holostars get. They all seem pretty cool

>> No.5470137

>>5469019
I could follow and enjoy all of that, I do think it would work better with text on the screen or linking to a copyright free version.
Something to keep in mind though is that this may be harder for esls to follow for some of the unfamiliar words so the text on screen is good for that too.
You have a nice voice to listen to as well. One thing that I think may be a problem with longer, older text like this is that it will take you several streams to get through and that could further put off people that wouldnt be into the book choice. It depends on how you plan to structure your streams.

>> No.5470140

>>5470063
If a corpo debuted actual gay chuubas it would turn off women, women only want to see bait and teetee, and it would majorly turn off men. Gay men just make up a tiny fraction of the watchbase. I'm sure you can find a gay indie somewhere.

>> No.5470230

>>5470122
Especially Roberu and Astel. They're angels. It really sucks that Fubuki and Ollie are the only Idols in Hololive I know that have collaborated with Holostar. But noooo we can't have that because virgin nip men will throw a fit over Holostars being friends with their waifus. Fuck them.

>> No.5470258

>>5469405
>the one wildly popular group being all female
This, it's not that male Vtubers are unpopular, it's just that the women (in one group) are really popular.
And why are they popular? Well, partly because there aren't *any* female celebrities who cater to a male audience, other than braindead ethots. All the normal female celebrities are ruined by hollywood and twitter to be "girl power rah" and "I love gays". Having actual attractive, smart, talented, and funny women actually cater to me as a straight male is a novel and intoxicating experience. It's like being in a strip club I guess, except less sleezy and I can experience it from the comfort of home.

I don't know if there's any way to replicate that for male Vtubers. There's already tons of male streamers with male audiences, mostly "bro who plays video games". It's not very exciting or novel. There's also tons of youtube videos of men being good at comedy, music, sports, or anything else. Unless you're in the top 0.0001% of one of those things, you're not going to compete with the men already doing it, and having a cartoon avatar won't help you.

>> No.5470306

>>5470137
Thanks anon. I probably wouldn't actually go with anything that old, unless I was doing an actual educational stream, and reading something like the Canterbury Tales in its original Middle English with both the original text and translation on screen. Though saying that, that does sound fun.

Realistically, late 19th century and early 20th century stuff would be much easier to follow. Short stories are probably preferable to novels, since those could be self contained streams, rather than a novel, which could take 20+ hours of reading.

>> No.5470354

>>5467139
Dudes rock

>> No.5470446

>>5470306
Thank you, I completely clicked into this thread by accident and it was nice to read your posts and listen to your vocaroos, even if you dont get in do try streaming.
By any chance are you the guy that posted a commissioned design that is a guy in a vest with a sweater? The artist has a somewhat painterly look to their art.

>> No.5470586

>>5446268
>they will never be able to produce kino like this
https://youtu.be/R91NunKqu-I

>> No.5470647

>>5470446
I'm not that guy, though that sounds like a nice design. I think I'd like something like that, just a kinda normal looking guy. I think regardless of getting in or not, I'll give streaming a try. When I do, I'll post in the /asp/ thread.

>> No.5471728

>>5470230
You do know that Roberu and Astel collab outside of Hololive and don't need to rely on the girls to succeed right? Roberu especially is doing pretty well, has a radio show with one of the most popular seiyuus, constantly inviting other chuubas on his bar. As well as Astel getting invited to Apex tournaments.

>> No.5471768

>>5469151
ID literally has no popular male vtubers prior to Nijisanji ID, the most popular male vtuber in ID debuted two months after NijiID wave 1. Nobody expected a guy would be a success or even become ID's biggest chuuba (at least until HoloID's EOP horde passed Andi) when NijiID debuted.

Hell, even the JP branch were hit by similar sentiment back in eary 2018. Sure there were classics like Gorilla or Peanuts, but their popularity was far less than the likes of Ai, Kaguya Luna or even Mito. Mito even said Kenmochi used to be the only guy in various events they attended.

>> No.5471961

>>5470230
I started watching Astel after seeing him playing Apex with Ollie. He made it so fun that I couldn't not go watch him. Been doing JP reps to understand him better.

>> No.5472042

>>5470586
this is also based

>> No.5472081

>>5470586
now post the ringo mogire beam

>> No.5472166

>>5472081
men and women love!
https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm

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>we want gay male vtubers!
here's your chuuba bro!

>> No.5472507

>>5428379
This is something I've been wondering about and exploring myself. Based on the criteria from >>5428657 lemme put forth the following

>charisma
Been doing professional VA work off n on for over a decade. Being naturally charismatic is part of the job

>good at video games
I'm good enough. I honestly dgaf about current games/gaming but have the disposable income to basically go buy the shit I need to rapidly come up to speed

>good sense of humour
Easily

>good at apex
Fuck apex. Game looks boring as shit

>good voice
This is where I want more input from you collective retards. I'm a proper oldfag and 4chan ancient fag. I've got a deep baritone of a standard radio jocky/golden oldies male voice/DILF voice along with a big as grab bag of character voices. I know my voice can make money. What im curious about is potential market need/audience reception. Is that even worth developing a market around? Is delicious silky or gravely deep voiced VA dilf voice 2d or 3d VT capable of growing in a space saturated by soibois and screeching weeabo tiddymonsters?

>good singer
I'm solid there. My go-to library of songs needs to be brought up to date though.

>not an EOP
I'm assuming this is some bullshit like english-only-person or some such netslang faggotry . I speak a few languages poorly and not fluently. English Is my primary language

>> No.5472602

>>5472507
To work under a Japanese company it would make sense that you know at least a little Japanese.

>> No.5472707

>>5472602
Makes sense given where this market came from. Jp talent management is the only viable partnership for something like this then?

>> No.5472721

>>5472707
If you mean becoming a vtuber you can just go indie. Or, find a western corpo, but I'm not familiar with them at all.

>> No.5472800

>>5449103
Fuck off /wvt/ you're all talentless hacks.

>> No.5472849

>>5428863
I have been doing nothing but listen to Mashiro's karaoke stream because his singing is that good.

>> No.5473082

>>5428863
Saegusa Akina gets a buff from his karaoke streams. His viewers usually like them more than his other stuff.

>> No.5473191

>>5472507
I'd say there's some market for dilf voice, Bonnivier Pranaja from NijiID has some EN following due to his deep voice and his fps skill. Belmond Banderas is also pretty popular in JP.

For EOP part, being capable to speak other language (especially Japanese) is a plus but not really required. You can probably be ok with weeb level Japanese like most of the ID. Niji has an actual English management after all.

>> No.5473478

>>5472507
Post a vocaroo, from your description, yes but can't really give input without hearing it.

>> No.5473507

>>5473191
Dilf va again. Shitposting from my phone as I crawl into bed. You seem to jame a feel on the market and talent. I don't see myself using the typical rail thin Male model or generic weeabo Male antagonist model #1234. Is that a game changer or is it possible for a bearish/ viking/major Armstrong type model to find some traction?

>> No.5473600

>>5473478
Will give it a shot in the morning. Almost 2am here and I have work 6ish hours

>> No.5473642

>>5473507
Anything is possible but if you want more eyes in the beginning you're going to have to choose either an aesthetically pleasing avatar like all the popular guys, or a gimmick that is eye-catching.

>> No.5473665

>>5470230
And how are Ollie's metrics now? I remember seeing her clips more often before, then suddenly a bunch of Astel clips, and now I never see her and her channel numbers are pretty stagnant.

Collabing with males is insanely risky. It worked out for Fubuki because of her solid popularity and because her whole shtick is friendzoning her viewers, but for others it could be a death knell. Viewers won't say it aloud (except maybe in an autism pit like /vt/), but they'll stop watching quietly. A lot of these men are simply too insecure to handle their waifus being tainted in any way.

>> No.5474304

>>5473665
I think Ollie may have helped boost Holostars' popularity by at least 20%. She puts her career in danger time and time again and yet she's still here and climbing. I'm impressed she got this far. She's like god damn Rex Kramer.

>> No.5474652

>>5471768
>ID literally has no popular male vtubers prior to Nijisanji ID, the most popular male vtuber in ID debuted two months after NijiID wave 1. Nobody expected a guy would be a success or even become ID's biggest chuuba (at least until HoloID's EOP horde passed Andi) when NijiID debuted.
This. Leave it to Nijisanji to make a difference when it comes to male vtubers.

>> No.5474825

>>5472507
Just apply mate. You sound like a pretty cool guy.

>> No.5475274

>>5473507
You won't be anything game changer, but you can definitely go toe on toe with the pretty boys with bearish or non pretty boys design, in Niji there already Belmond, Maimoto, Chaika, Yashiro, Rikiichi (debatable), Bonnivier, and Gilzaren. All pretty popular in their branch, but again all of them do have more than just voice or design (either by singing skill, personality, or game skill).

If you want more garish example, there's a pretty popular male vtuber with deep voice in Japan called virtual Gorilla whose avatar is a literal Gorilla. While his subscribers count isn't that much (100k) compared to afro mentioned Vtubers or top male, he's still pretty well respected in the community thanks to his Apex skill and singing. He was also one of the few male chuuba who appear in Virtual-san anime along with many top chuubas in early 2019.

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>>5472166
You will NOT get into Nijisanji unless you can dance at LEAST half this good

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5475771

>>5475753
i don't know how they trained these motherfuckers to dance so well but it pays off

>> No.5475778

>>5475753
Mito's dancing here always makes me laugh.

>> No.5475931

>>5475753
>>5475771
Anyone have Maimoto's? Now THAT is top tier dancing.

>> No.5476092
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>>5475931
BEHOLD

>> No.5476416

>>5476092
Magnificent, see this anons? This is what peak dancing looks like.

>> No.5476556

>>5452565
>bahroo
isn't that the faggot that sent his fanbase to pester Gura to collab with him?

>> No.5477493

>>5476092
>>5475771
>>5475753
I'm too low spec for nijisanji... I recorded myself doing the little dances for telecaster b boy and looked so clumsy...

>> No.5477745

>>5476092
Hot

>> No.5477864

>>5476092
ojioji is high spec

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>>5475753
iinchou...

>> No.5478667

>>5476092
Oji sure got some hot moves

>> No.5479087

>>5428379
Don't worry anons, I'll get in.

>> No.5479106

>>5428379
no one will watch you
get a job

>> No.5479712

>>5479106
Even having only a few hundred viewers concurrently would be more than I'd likely get if I was broadcasting as an indie, so I don't see much harm in applying. Besides, I've already got a full-time job.

>> No.5481381

>>5475753
How do I learn this power?

>> No.5482677

>>5472507
Go for it! Can't hurt to apply, right?

>> No.5483428

>>5461849
I hate the design on those too and the default of cat ears as an upgrade.

>> No.5484089

>>5472507
If you have to ask, NGMI.

>> No.5484277

>>5473478
https://voca.ro/1hvSrV0CYo7R
older male anon posting again. headphones recommended due to resonant baritone voice

>> No.5484349

>>5481381
Not from Hololive.

>> No.5484881

>>5484277
Very nice voice, there is a market for chill streamers and it sounds like you would be niche and interesting.
You honestly dont need to be very good at any game, if you do have a genre that you are passionate about though, do lean on that, that kind of thing always shines through and for some people that makes up for not being the best at it.
Same thing with singing too, itll be better to go with what you like, you'll have to do unarchive streams for most of what you listed though so try to find a few vocaloid/anime songs that you do like so there are a least a few karaoke streams you can keep archived if you make it in. Good luck if you do try to get in.

>> No.5485081

>>5484881
>karaoke streams
Older VA anon again - Since I'm a tard when it comes to twitch right now (totally ultra casual consumption of it) fill me in more on these karaoke streams. Is it basically...fucking ...open mic night on some sort of dedicated channel or is it typcally hosted by folks and people log into some kind of queue in order to participate?

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>>5484277
Dude. I would not just subscribe and watch you, I'd join your membership and buy your voice packs. You have a wonderful deep voice that's super pleasant to listen and chill to. You don't need to be super duper knowledgeable about otaku/vtuber culture or the Japanese language, your voice and skills should be more than enough to carry you. I strongly suggest that you audition for NijiEN, and I'll be rooting for you if you do.

>> No.5485255

>>5485081
You just sing songs on stream.

>> No.5485285

>>5485081
You just host it yourself on your own channel, by yourself, how serious it is is up to you but you just have a stream of singing and talking in between.

>> No.5485336

Hololives dominance of the market so early and so hard ensures the only western people open to watching vtubers are lonely losers that want gfe. There will not be men in Nijisanji EN, and if there somehow are you can bet that they'll get double digit viewers at peak hours.

>> No.5485347

>>5484277
You sound like an English version of Belmond Banderas. People will love you.

>> No.5485447

>>5485336
The market is still malleable. Just because Hololive will remain on top doesn't mean other companies can't make a difference or attract new audiences. Especially when English-speaking fujoshi/yumejoshi are still an untapped market that can be appealed to.

>> No.5485493

>>5485336
there is no established market in the west yet
HoloEN set the bar for female talent but no one has ventured into developing male talent with any significant amount of money
NijiEN if they play it right will set the tone that every other org and male indie has to follow for the next few years

>> No.5485507

>>5485447
Also don't forget, right now we only have CGDCT chuuba. But still no hot-blooded Shounen/Seinen chuuba.

>> No.5485529

>>5485081
You can just host it yourself. It's easy to do and there's lots of free karaoke tracks out there. I'm the professor type that's been posting barbershop and literature streams, and I was poking around last night and did find some decent Schubert lieder karaoke tracks, recorded one for fun. So if I can find classical, should be easy for you to find your crooner stuff, Sting, etc.

Definitely apply, I like to think there's room in the vtuber space for older guys who aren't doing stuff that's the current norm. I'm in my 30s, guessing you are as well. Do you have any ideas for the type of "character" you'd want to be?

>> No.5485568

>>5445989
>why do you think male vtuber will not be entertaining?
Male vtubers are fine
Monolingual western(ized) male ENVtubers are cancers and should be avoided

>> No.5485592

Older VA anon again (god I just need some bullshit name at this point)

>>5485124
appreciate the vote of confidence. detailed reactions to recordings do help me gauge whether or not its a viable things to work towards. I could get similar feedback from some of my past clients but i'm pretty sure they know fuck all about the VT space so thanks again for the gushing supportive response

>>5485255
marathon singing takes its toll on your pipes. Karaoke themed 'days' are probably the best then, yes?

>>5485285
conservative POV. Input is appreciated

>>5485347
Will have to research BB.

Were I to take this further, I see a lot of folks using 2d and 3d rigged models. Who would be the 'go to' people for quality custom work to create assets like this?

>>5485336
good insider perspective. Again, I'm a gigantic neophyte when it comes to this so strategic timing recommendations are helpful

>> No.5485851

>>5485592
You can do karaoke as long or short as you like they just tend to be very comfortable, accessible streams, even if you do a half hour twice a month or something like that and some light chat between songs that will make people that enjoy your singing happy. People wont be expecting marathons from you unless you make that your norm.

>> No.5485963

>>5484277
If this nigga seriously applies he will make it. Having even minimal experience with the facerig stuff is how most of the corporate tubers get picked out - if you can put together some videos with decent quality model already you'll be a much easier sell. The anon who mentioned having a good gimmick is dead on as well, whether you do some kind of handsome bad guy thing or wacky gaming dad shit you've already got the talent to sell it.

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>>5446268
Women will never be so bold as to do this https://youtube.com/watch?v=CaQqmgul3wE

Men are natural 'hype' machines. You're not worth anyone's time if you're scared of being labeled 'cringe' or 'tryhard'. Might as well watch a female vtuber at that point

>> No.5486323

>>5462939
I want a legit physics teacher vtuber who's designed like Okabe Rintarou but talks like Rick Sanchez. But he plays mostly fighting games.

>> No.5486418

>>5484277
holy shit wtf, that's a really good voice

>> No.5486437

>>5428523
Not EOP friendly in Homostars, except(?) for Temma who still continues to learn English

Only a matter of time that Temma goes full English only stream

>> No.5486612

>>5462939
see this post >>5466385

>> No.5486776

>>5486612
Hana's dad is literally me lmfao
Goofy boomer with a medium/higher voice who plays old games and jokes around, but doesn't understand social media

>> No.5486823

>>5484277
WOW
You have an amazing voice dude... DAD!
If you're gonna do radio, I'd listen in a heartbeat.

>> No.5486877

>>5485991
Man this is so good

>> No.5486909

>>5484277
I've never felt more mogged in my life. How do you do it?

>> No.5487637

>>5485336
>the only western people open to watching vtubers are lonely losers that want gfe
On the Japanese side, there are people that watch normal streamers and hate vtubers, people who watch vtubers for GFE(and BFE, but it's more like female viewers just watching boys being boys), people who watch vtubers for gameplay like Kuzuha and Kanae fans(the Apex/shooting gamefags), people who watch vtubers NOT for gameplay like Kenmochi fans(the female illustrators), people who watch vtubers for their singing ability, etc.
I honestly don't know if people will care about English speaking male vtubers in the west, I mean, people who are interested in male vtubers would already be watching Japanese male vtubers, right? But then again I heard some male vtubers in NijiID are doing okay.

>> No.5487704

>>5428657
>charisma.
>good sense of humour.
Man, this is blatant workplace discrimination.

>> No.5487764

>>5472507
Nobody cares about your colorful bullshit description. Upload a sample to catbox.

>> No.5487852

>>5484277
Really nice voice, but I don't know if this will attract people for vtubers. You sound too old. If I were you, I'd read copypastas, greentexts and memes and just let the money flow in. If you're more ambitious, apply for some VA jobs, you could make good money.

>> No.5487944

>>5487637
>I honestly don't know if people will care about English speaking male vtubers in the west
This is exactly what Dream and the Corpsefaggot are right now and they're unbelievably successful despite being less likable or talented than any Holostar.

>> No.5488291

Do I have any potential?
I've only ever done 3 little personal VA projects and none of them got more than 2k views on youtube. I've also never streamed but aside from the microphone, I have the necessary hardware for a 2 pc setup.
https://voca.ro/159Z19iqCGkj

>> No.5488306

>>5487944
>This is exactly what Dream and the Corpsefaggot
Not vtubers.

>> No.5488339

>>5488291
Oh yeah, also german is my first language and I have rudimentary japanese and french skills.

>> No.5488658

>>5487764
see my vocaroo from several posts above

>>5485851
interesting POV. will keep in in mind. Wasnt intending on making a daily 'singing' type channel although it does sounds like thats a good comfy zone for folks to enjoy

>>5485963
I'm already looking at some of the more prominant english VT people out there and taking note of who they are using to create their models. I'm not an artist by any stretch of the imagination but understand enough to know that you look at who is big in a particular space and then use what they use.

>>5486418
ty

>>5486823
dad voice/authoritative voice is normally what clients want for advertising from me unless its a character-specific voice.

>>5486909
good chest voice, practice, good mic, knowing your hardware helps.

>>5487852
critical feedback is always good. VA jobs are hyper competitive and unless you live near major studios, remote professional VA work is a pain in the ass to maintain unless you have an agent that loves you to death.

I'm gonna lurk the thread while I do my normal job for a bit right now. Thanks for the feedback so far

>> No.5488722

>>5488291
it's not awful, but you need to sound more confident and I think if you put more energy into it that would really help your engagement. the accent would even be charming if you could sell the enthusiasm.

>> No.5488845

>>5488658
If you're auditioning for Nijisanji, I assume they'll provide support for the art and rig.

>> No.5488934

>>5488845
>Nijisanji
OlderVAanon again - thanks for mentioning that. Seriously considering throwing my hat into the ring on this

>> No.5488974

>>5488722
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to work on it. I think I'll try streaming some game on twitch soon and see what kind of feedback I get there.

>> No.5489023

>>5487637
>Kenmochi fans(the female illustrators)
What? Is there something about him that attracts female illustrators?

>> No.5489061

>>5488934
Just in case you didn't know already, here is the link to the Nijisanji EN audition:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1405706837660295173

>> No.5489193

>>5488291
I like your slight accent, and agree on the mic upgrade though its not that awful. Like the other anon said just sound a little more confident though that doesnt bother me much, you sound slightly nervous and with the right persona there are people that like that.

>> No.5489960

>>5489193
Thanks to you too. Yeah, I actually do have some confidence issues IRL, so I'll probably need to make a persona and act differently to have a bit more mass appeal. I guess bonus points for being harder to dox then, kek.

>> No.5489969

>>5485529
Frankly speaking i could go a variety of ways. Bear mode dad bod. Bearded viking dude. Demon king. Robot/mecha/android...thing? Normally i get typecast as a big burly character, some sort of big bad, or the dark sexy villain voice. Truth be told I'm just a tall older guy with a shaved head viking beard and a tall dad bod. Beard striking characters are that I've got a stripe of white/silver on the front portion where my chin is.

>> No.5490046

>>5489023
He has big name artists like Usazaki Shiro, Mochizuki Kei, Oshioshio,
>Shigure Ui
and several female artists with ~100k followers fangirling over him on twitter so I get that impression. Probably because he streams at 24:00 and his strong point is talking, these people usually don't have normal sleep schedule so they probably listen to his stream on the background while working, I guess.

>> No.5490731

>>5488934
Please do so, I would like to see both you and the babershop reading anon get in, you would cover nice niches and be enjoyable to listen to.

>> No.5491556

>>5487637
Chiho from NijiKR has got a big boost of EOP english girls watching him. He speaks english to them and he promotes his english clippers. So to succeed with girls you just need to be a cute soft boy, no other skill needed.
For the guys you need to be good at games or humor. Or bring an interesting gimmick.

>> No.5491585

>>5490731
Barbershop reading anon here, thanks! Gonna do my best, and stream regardless of if I get in or not.

>> No.5492216

>>5491585
OlderVAanon back - can i hear this barbershop thing?

>> No.5492560

>>5492216
Sure, one thing I like doing is recording barbershop quartets by myself, so an idea I had for a stream would be showing each part getting recorded in real time. I had dropped some vocaroo links, which are below:

>>5466091

I also do classical, though I don't know if that would generate as much interest.

https://voca.ro/18TPbg3sqddf

>> No.5492828

>>5492560
dude. well done. tickles my childhood memories something fierce what with my dad singing opera. I havent done opera/quartets in well over 10 years but you've got the right tone and sound shape for it. Just making an assumption, but you're not projecting because you're in a more enclosed space (aside from it being a softer piece in general)?

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