/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54115706
Just don't watch them if you don't like them, it's not hard.

>>54115934
But they don't watch streams.

>>54115706
Where is Mumei?

>>54116075
Somewhere being cute, why?

>>54116047
Oh, I forgot. My bad.

>>54115706
Unicorns win again.

Mr. Jap has had enough of these whores. He will put HoloEN back on the right track.

>>54115706
no, it's just begun

>>54115706
Mori will be dead after EN3 debut, she's already desperate with her 24h stream

>>54116246
Go back

>>54115706
>>54116494
Mori is the top player in HoloEN the branch exists to promote her
Having new collab partners will only benefit her

So OP admit he is afraid of women interacting with men, thanks for your coming out anon

No one ever puts Ina in either of these lists...

>>54115706
Where is Ina?

>>54116651
Yeah, top player in calories

>>54116494
Mori will be fine.

>>54116246
Trad wives who understand the plight of modern men let's GO!

>>54116494
I actually feel a bit sorry for Kiara.

>>54116494
dont think her normal ccv will ever recover, but saying she'll die because EN3 is delusional. she's the only one in EN that's getting those deals for a reason.
it's the lazy ones that's going to take a hit. these new girls will hopefully be smart enough to take advantage of their chance.

>>54116494
So what has mumei been doing wrong?

>>54116992
male collab with the JP homos

>>54116889
>she's the only one in EN that's getting those deals for a reason.
all it takes is another muscially gifted chuuba that's more popular and she's fucked

>>54116679
Because she doesn't collab or homobeg? No shit she wouldn't be there

>>54116075
Not part of the Mori clique

>>54116494
Mori makes Cover a ridiculous amount of money. That list doesn't mean shit. Cope, seethe, and numberfag.

What goes through the minds of people who make these kind of threads?

>>54115706
you're right, its time to make a new reign, of terror that is!

>>54116494
These averages are really skewed because a lot of these girls only do events and go on hiatuses and it also includes superchat reading streams

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>>54117447
Kronii and Ame are not in a clique with Mori, unironically IRyS is.

>>54116792
Don't be, those numbers are only stating that kiara does more sub 2k ccv superchat reading streams than most of the other girls even stream all year

You can artificially boost your average by never streaming anything but events and collabs where you are the sole point of view and never doing any superchat reading streams outside membership so it doesn't record numbers

>>54115706
Lmao, Kronii 2.0 is a StarsEN fan and will collab with them as often as she's allowed.

>>54117940
How can you possibly know that lmao
Last time this place thought they had all the identities nailed down before Council debut they ended up being 1 for 5.

>>54117940
if she's Kronii 2.0 and Kronii herself is Mori 2.0 does that make the new girl Mori 3.0?

>>54117940
if she wants to kill herself early,
Great. we can all collectively skip
and she can go the bae route

>>54115706
You retards know that at the forms of the audition there was a question if you were willingly going to collab with holostars, right?? They probably chose the ones that responded yes

Why is Bae there? She never insulted her fans over collabs like the other 3.
She's not much different from the JP male collaborators in that regard, and even ID's do stars EN collabs 10x more often than Bae.
Also what's with the fags mentioning Mumei? I know you haven't seen that stream outside screen caps and clips, but she never brought it up again. Plus they were all JP stars, so you're feeling threatened when there's a language barrier. Not that you should, because you don't watch streams anyway.

I can't imagine there are any schizo unicorns that still care about EN anymore. The ones that do don't even seen to give a shit about this stuff. I still see gosling posts for Ame. I used to think most "Niji deflection" posts were just tribal mentality at work, but now I'm really starting to believe these threads are sisters.

>>54117876
Clique goes way deeper than just collabs. Those on board have been twisted by her anti idol ways.

funny that en faggots are this euphoric for no reason. im sure en3 will become like niji. theyll start collabs with tempiss immediately right after the ban lift. if one of them is actually that niji hag even more so. en is getting worse and much more western centric after gen2. its obvious.

>>54115706
What REIGN OF TERROR?

They just streamed.

>>54115706
Clique?

>>54118269
>if one of them is actually that niji hag even more so
Someone hasn't paid enough attention to nina to know what they're talking about kek. she ended her career pivoting to the other side so hard one of her reasons for leaving was because management blocked a girl only terraria server she wanted to do.
nina was like if mori actually learned her lessons and appreciated the financial opportunity the job offers.

>>54118226
Even thinking that any of them "insulted" their fans is stupid. To me it just seems childish to perceive anyone in HoloEN as these "villains". Clearly none of them are the menaces Anons in the catalog paint them to be. Maybe I've become too old for all this, but seeing people talk about them like this over and over and over again honestly seems like the most boring and draining thing.

>>54116494
DFC supremacy

>>54116494
Ok I understand Fauna and Bae going up, but how in the f u c k is Ina stonks going up?

Her streams are pretty much sleep-tier boring, her person being far more boring than her own model's design.

>>54119110
Skill issue. You just have shit taste.

>>54119110
The "yearly %" stat is kind of a meme cause you skew the fuck out it by just not streaming

>>54118713
such a childish cunt then. she was collabing with males many times like nothing. such a cunt would immediately complain if she cant collab with males.

that server thing mustve been a cost issue. its like saying they want a female exclusive mc server. such an infantile idea cant be easily business. you know everything costs when its official work. someone has to take the responsibility about whats going on there too and always has to manage/direct it. its not your private stuff with no responsibility.

>>54116679
>>54117366
Ina never did any homo collab streams, but she was in Axel's Bad End Night cover, so she's in limbo.

>>54118258
>anti idol ways
Who has "idol ways", no one EN acts as an idol to begin with.

>>54117897
Kiara's well aware she's the runt of the branch, she just makes sure those few people are more dedicated than any other fanbase. She has to work harder milking her smaller base to get the same things everyone else gets with no effort.

>>54116047
>>54116135
Neither do you, sisters.

>>54120329
I watch streams I like though? Just skip them if you don't care for the content, there's more than enough streamers at any point of time.

>>54117258
easier said than done. even JP has not produced anyone that gets deals as much as her. her music stuff has also hit a niche. any other newcomer would have to have one too, lest they get buried in the sea of the same genre.

>>54120482
Maybe try focusing on watching streams instead of updooting posts about da bois and you won’t have to worry about anything

>>54117258
You mean musically niche, Mori fills a silly gimmick niche. That's the exact opposite of talent.

>>54120991
Maybe don't get an aneurysm if something exists that you don't like. It's just entertainment at the end of the day, just like browsing this board is.

>>54115706
Literal discordnigger forced meme

>>54119110
Hard carried by her design and the "le comfy" meme.

>>54115706
The entire argument against these girls is based on anti-man feminist and woke ways of thinking, which must be purged before it can go further.

>>54118218
Then EN3 will die. Holo will fall and I will become a nijisister and holo anti permanently.

>>54121542
You should transition and cut your dick off too. You practically post like a limp wristed queen already

>>54118218
proof?

>>54117258
Hirys remember Irys? Hololive tried to cash in with Irys and she bombed lmao.

>>54121688
I try not to remember IRyS. Cover basically hired her because of one YouTube video and her personality revolves around a single joke.

>>54121610
Sorry did I hurt a homofaggots fee fees? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

>>54115706
falseflag

The TriWhorce

>>54116494
>Kronii inclining
maybe she can make it

>>54121931
You've even got a gif tutorial ready sister. You're on your way already!

>>54117518
Insecurity.

>>54117531
The old reign of terror hasnt ended and will only stop once JPs that arent the usual collab without fear for noombers or yen.

>>54121931
You should take your own advice since its clear your father failed in raising a man with a spine

>>54122125
She'll be fine as long as she keeps doing the coombaiting she personally hates.

>>54121106
Even though Mori has left that niche and only continues to land more popular names to work with.

>>54115706
The triangle of tempus allies will get bigger when the new girls end up interacting with them frequently. I guarantee it.

>>54122162
>>54122150
Oops I triggered the tempusniggers

>>54122283
Like you are eternally at the mere existence of male vtubers? Kek

>>54122283
T. Has more estrogen than a woman

>>54122349
>get called a tranny
>insulted by homo defenders
Im sorry teammates its over, hand over the condom money

>>54116156
To the Troonicorn, winning means crying for a year about some vtubers they can easily not watch then taking credit for a long overdue generation that was always going to happen.

>>54122442
Cuckbrained and a limp wristed woman
Seek the rope brother

>>54120264
It must be stressful.

>>54115706
I never understood what the fuck Ame did to piss off everyone outside of never sticking to a project or plan

>>54122283
Not really a hard thing to do. They are especially sensitive these days now that the CGDCTfags were proven right and their branch has been a failure.

>>54116494
You know I feel like Mori is better off just doing music stuff than streaming stuff. Holy fuck that is absolutely depressing to look at.

>>54116992
Inconsistent streams+sickness. trust me i've stopped following Mumei as often and I used to love her from council.

t.hooman from day one.

>>54122835
She told people that didn’t like the direction she was going to fuck off and they did.

>>54122835
hlgg exiles seething eternally because teamates dominate the general, they are sewer dwelling catalogniggers for a reason

>>54116494
>-55%
horrifying and yet deserved.

>>54122835
>Tell people to stop watching you
>They stop watching you

>>54121688
>and she bombed lmao.
"bombed"

Outside of Ballz, she's the only truly musically gifted member in EN. Kiara and Gura are good but IRyS can sing and has done very good covers. I just don't understand why management hasn't given her any special treatment at all.

>>54122835
The duet with Regis was done out of spite as a fuck you to people who only enjoy the cgdct content of hololive.

>>54123150
She might sing good but she does abysmal numbers and her music is incredibly forgettable, just the most generic jpop anime shit. Ironically Irys' best music is when she does unarchived karaokes. Otherwise she's just a bore.

>>54116651
>Mori is the top player
Unique way to call someone the fattest but I approve of it!
Also bold of you to assume that they WANT to collab with her.

>>54123129
>they start seething about her forever

>>54115706
if any of the new girls is half as successful as Calli is in her career then that will be a massive success

Seems optimistic. Now I know that Gura is an exception in the west so I've tempered my expectations accordingly.

>>54123194
And just last week during her last news show she said Axel was cute lmao, which is the first instance in HoloEN of a girl showing sexual attraction to one of the boys. Not even Mori has gone that far, she immediately brother-zoned the boys. Ame's truly a trend setter.

>>54123150
>can sing and has done very good covers
If she good then why her songs are shit bros ?

>>54117981
Confidently retarded. Doesn’t help most of the ppl are just cock obsessed closet homos

>>54122255
The niche is her style, not her friendgroup. Scatman John had a niche style even when he was the face of Western pop music.

>holo vs holo

>>54124109
Because you suck dick

>>54115706
>AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
fuck you teakeks

>>54125097
>CGDCT vs homowhores

>>54116047
streams?

>>54120264
you don't know shit, faggot.

>>54118226
>Why is Bae there
she gives off normie vibes

>>54119070
Anon, you ought to be old enough to read between the lines by now. People paint them as villains only because they're deeply disappointed by someone they wanted to like. Otherwise they wouldn't care at all.
For example, the reason Kronii is so hated by a subset of /vt/ is because they feel they betrayed by her saying one thing and then doing another. Nobody seriously thinks she's "evil", they're just upset to have their trust broken. It's a very natural human response. (It's not necessarily very mature, but that's besides the point.)

>>54115706
The only true triangle is the hafu trio of IRyS, Pikamee (now Henya), and Rosemi

>>54115706
You assume too much. This image will only gain more segments. You'll see.

>>54119318
Mori's last year average seemed oddly high so i checked. I guess it was carried compleatly by Elden Ring and multiple collab series that stopped last year as well, Then as soon as she finished Elden ring she spammed JRPGS for literally months which no one fucking watches regardless who is playing. Solo streams if you take out elden ring and JRPGs aren't much diffrent from last year.

>>54125297
>holo vs holo

The only fucking ranking that counts is the super chat ranking.
1. Mori: €1,516,906
2. Wawa: €1,343,390
3. Senzawa €1,058,415

The losers:
Shy boring asian girl: €557,918
rat: €378,184
owl: €293,888

The taco can take her 10k viewers that she gets once she streams every week for 90 mins and can fuck off compared to Wawa who streams 5 times a week for 8 hours.
The super chat numbers are the only measure of true success. Broke kids are worthless as viewers.

>>54125938
sisters aren't sensing their best

>>54118226
>>54119070
>>54125643
It's just foolishness. If you turn against the girls, the homos/homobeggars laugh at it and are motivated to keep going to destroy the girls and their fanbases with impunity. So you should fight against the homos and their beggars instead.

>>54115706
All 4 of these girls said "If you don't like what I do then don't watch". So I don't watch them anymore.

>>54125955
>it's another used outdated info to make a disingenuous, irrelevant argument episode
>also the fact that Council debuted long after Myth
You're the type of person who would fail to make the distinction between total population and per capita

>>54126191
cope
>collab with males, get called a whore

>>54123012
Evidently not since you all still crying about it lmao

>>54126408
just restore their honor by slaying the haram males.

>>54126293
OK here is something more recent. Up until they fixed the exploit that allowed to people to see sales data, Mori's birthday merch sold better than Fauna's this year. The exploit was closed after fauna's pre order window was closed, but before Mori's was so we missed the last 2 or so weeks of sale data for Mori. Mori also had 3 figures and her sololive blu-ray that siphoned off bday merch sales since Mori directly told her fans to buy the blu-ray over her b-day merch if you had to choose one. What good are all those extra viewers if they aren't buying shit?

This board unironically would put Drag Queens to shame with the amount of drama you have. I don't like Kronii or Balez but you faggots are unironic women.

>>54127061
>you faggots are unironic women.
don't flatter the trannies.

>>54115706
You're only making it funnier when someone from EN3 collabs with Tempus

>>54126191
Right. Well I don't partake in "homobeggar vs whatever" wars. I don't particularly give a shit about any of the silly factions people on this board come up with anymore. After over 2.5 years I don't see the point of many of the things here anymore.

>>54126766
You just said that the only ranking that counts is superchat. So using actually recent data, for their Pizza Tower streams that were on the same day, people superchatted ¥20,255.14 for Mori and ¥280,871.37 for Gura, meaning people superchatted Gura 10 times more. Anyway that's just to play your game with this stupid argument which is dumb in the first place.

>>54122835
It's just cumchuds who're butthurt that the girl Gura likes does things they don't like

>>54125938
>>54125996
Nijisisters are pro homo lmao

>>54115706
daily reminder that these threads are always make by numberniggers

>>54127412
Lmfao you’re mad sis, go back to your goonsesh on your favorite interracial cuck porn subreddit

>>54127337
I'm someone diffrent than that guy. Also Gura's data is basically invalid until she starts streaming regularly for several weeks.

>>54116992
Not streaming

Mods here are worse than leftists on Threads.

>>54127617
>doesn't count
lol ok, I can really expect genuine arguments from you

>>54126418
Telling remaining teakeks they're cucks every once in a while doesn't mean I still watch her streams

>>54127740
>mods

>>54127610
>Cumchud has an interracial cuck porn addiction
Mind telling us something new about yourself?

>>54116651
No.

>>54123871
Did she really? Teakeks, you better prove him wrong

sisters are very bad at this

>>54127202
>someone
Surely you meant all of them right? They'll probably be allowed to collab with Tempus earlier than the girls because of popular demand.

>>54116494
This is a horribly missleading graph that would get you laughed out of /#/

>>54127412
Just kys already. Stupid drama spreading faggot

>>54119110
>Her streams are pretty much sleep-tier boring
Precisely, she's easy to follow because she's not doing LE CRAZY HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT constantly like Mori or Kiara, and attracts the casual who needs some white noise in the background.

>>54116494
>>54116992
>>54119110
This chart is pretty old, it was made in April. The guy who made these made an updated version recently which has completely different numbers although Kiara and Mori are still at the bottom. Why you guys keep falling for this is laughable.

>>54115706
why are you so chuuni?

>>54127930
You wouldn't have replied if I wasn't right, for if I was wrong then you'd stay in /ggg/ jerking off to Gura or whatever.

>>54127740
It's such a poorly moderated board. At this point I think it's done on purpose in hope that it eventually dies gets absorbed into an e-celeb board or something. Which is exactly what it deserves, because the catalog here is mind-numbingly dogshit and has been for years.

>>54128075
I like /ggg/ because I like Gura, but I don't have a problem with her colleagues. I come to threads like this to see what nonsense people will make up this time and your posts have been a prime example of that kind.

>>54128162
The catalog was literally clogged with Gura anti threads for the past year, so why would you expect that?

>>54127496
Kronii is literally a nijiwhore

>>54117531
Please don't jinx it watamage

>>54123026
I rarely visited global even before tempiss. The forced positivity circlejerk gets boring pretty quickly. That place having shit taste is the least of my worries

>>54117258
And that has the same or better work ethic than her.
And that cover a mostly untapped niche like her.
And that she manage to be as discussed as her.
And...

>>54128551
>seething because a place rejected your pessimistic cock obsessed off topic shitposting

Sounds like everything is working then

Goddamn I cannot wait for ENsharts to immediately turn on their new wave of whores and continue to ruin the only thing they even consider a "hobby" for themselves

>>54128388
Gura is an eceleb. They all are.

>>54115706
No, your still going to let them live rent free in your head, even if none of EN3 collabs with males or any of these woman never collab with males again you'd still be posting these same old stale bait threads.

>>54128718
I was referring to the moderation not your take on ecelebs and shit but k

>>54128714
>Goddamn I cannot wait for ENsharts to immediately turn on their new wave of whores
As long as they aren't stupid enough to collab with males then they'll revitalize Holo EN and be loved by all.

>>54128904
I didn't understand what you meant at first, so I took a guess. But my point is the moderation is shit, it doesn't matter who or not is target of the month in the catalog.

>>54128652
>I rarely visited global even before tempiss.
I don't really care what they think

>>54129026
This places opinion does not matter at all, you should learn that in life before you set out into the real world summerchama. Your opinion will never matter in anything in life

>>54129091
And nobody cares about what you think because youre a mentally ill fag who screams into the void that is this basketweaving discussion board so Im glad you can understand

>>54128714
>wave

>>54129176
funny you say that considering how vocal beggars are

>>54129271
And you're right /here/ with me defending the honor of some e-girl that talks about all the male vtubers she finds cute on stream

>>54129026
im sure at least 2 of them are, and it will easily damage en3 as a whole

>>54129521
Which girl are we talking about projection chama? The one you pulled out of your ass or your headcanon?

>>54129026
Not a single one of them can be a whore for your plan to actually work and that's statistically impossible. In HoloJP, the whore of the new gen gets suspended so they can merchandise her without her actively ruining streams while in EN, the staff leap to her defense and do nothing for the girls who don't want to be whores.

>>54129615
Ame

>Thank you Ame,Magni and Vesper senpai for helping us with our Debuts!
I cant wait for the meltdown.

Their reign of terror has just begun. Imagine you find a girl in EN gen 3 who is perfect in every way. She's charming, she's cute, she plays games you like, she sings, she does it all. You feel closer to her than any vtuber ever. Then after a month the collab ban lifts and her first collab is with Mori. Then Kronii. Then a while later you notice she becomes more adversarial to chat. Weeks later she starts collabing with Homos. Unless they state otherwise from the start it will always be a risk and you won't know until it happens.

>>54128162
They wanted to make a eceleb board lmao

>>54130150
Post this in the writing thread anon

>>54116494
>>54116992
>>54119110
>>54122125
>>54127952
>All these people making sweeping generalizations based on limited data which completely changes after more months are added
Never change /vt/. Here's a newer version which paints a pretty different picture

>>54128652
>implying global is not cock obsessed
Last time I was there some homo was literally crossdressing and posting it there and people were thirsting over it. That thread is filled with cock thirsting homosexuals.

>>54115706
>reign of terror
>implying they had reign over anything

>>54115706
Their reign will only continue to be stronger when their forces are bolstered.

>>54128714
>wave
how is Mysta gradiation, sisters?

>>54130771
Wanting to fuck a man is a lot different than crying and shitting your pants other men exist and have direct contact to your favorite anime girl LARPer
At least the actual faggots are honest with themselves and don't shit their pants like a bunch of femcel tumblrinas

>>54131884
Didn't think global had become quite this bad. I guess sisters really took it over like /nijien/

>>54131884
Sis, how’s the Mysta Graduation news going?

>>54132315
Cute /vt/ newfag, stay out and stay ignorant

>>54132315
Global was dead over a year ago when they started worshipping the avatarnigger.

>>54132423
Its funny seeing you retards talk about a thread thats existed since 2020 and out yourselves as post covid tourists.

>>54130393
idols vs hoes,
it's just sad mumei got tricked into doing something stupid with Bae
never trust mori and her underlings

>>54132536
That didn't impact Mumei though. Hell that was a year and a half ago. If you think that's why she started to decline and not constant breaks+stream delays, you're retarded.

>>54132536
>the hooman once again rejects the fact his oshi has free will
Thats really insulting dude

>>54131884
opinions on homosexuality aside, you actually managed to legitimize the term homobeggar

>>54115706
We don't know if any or all of the new girls will be homo collabers yet.

>>54132536
That wouldn't affect the % decrease from 2022, silly, since 2022 would take all of that into account
For Mumei's it's just unavailability from less streams + not being able to reach her wildly popular heights of summer 2022, and on top of that there's a general decrease of numbers for almost everyone.

>>54121542
Why are you this retarded?

>>54132708
Yes, gay people beg for cock, you didnt need to invent a term for this, its called being a homosexual man.
Just like how 3/4s the men on this board gossip like women as if they never escaped puberty, we should dub these people "women", since they want to act like them so much like theyre on a forum for TMZ

>>54129754
>they are sewer dwelling catalogniggers for a reason
Ah, it all comes back to this

>>54132616
It wasn't free will. If it was we would've seen more collabs afterwards. She has practically memory holed that stream and has never even acknowledge it or them since. At this point it was pretty obvious she was tricked into it.

>>54132892
Once again youre sucking copium and saying Mumei has no free will

>>54132892
Just like how mumei tricked ame into collabing with a niji you mean?

>>54132892
I don't really have an opinion about it but you should stop making these posts because I'm pretty sure it's always you and people just laugh at you
No one really cares at this point so you're the one making it into a bigger deal

>>54132823
you completely disregarded the 'beggar' part which implies the push for cross-gender collabs

>>54133043
The guy was talking about people thirsting for chink cosplayers in global
Hes a retard who felt the need to insert his stars seethe

>>54132536
Bae is a bigger idol than your "tricked" owl

>>54132892
>>54132616
It's funny how they completely disregard the free will Mumei has of ignoring them since, but of course they would since their arguments always rely on reaching years into the past for crumbs of relevance

>>54133236
Thats not how frew will works and youre making what was a mediocre collab most people forgot into this gigantic nuclear threat against humanity
Mumei probably forgot that collab exists since she has a life and things to do
You sit on here fucking crying over a stream 99% of people moved on from

>>54133236
Unironically most people don't care, the reason why people push back against it is because it's usually combined with seethe against Bae

>>54133360
Anon...he was agreeing with you.
You're the one making it into a big deal because you can't stop replying. Just step away from the keyboard. No one would have even brought it up if it wasn't for you but because of you the combo keeps going. See how that works?

>>54133419
man the irony of you retarded unicorn fucks telling other people they're a big deal out of things...

>>54133360
I'm not crying over it because that collab means jack shit to me since it's obvious where her attitude lies. I don't think she was forced into it, so yeah that point is stupid and meaningless cope. She did something, then decided nah either on her own or from reactions, and things have been the same since.

>>54133525
I'm not a unicorn, I think you guys are all retarded because Mumei and Bae are close friends but their fans in the catalog keep shitting on each other

>>54132536
You are not only posting bad date that is inflated by lack of streams, but you are pushing anti shit on top of that. Like saying shit like "mumei got tricked", how fucked in the head are you to say something that retarded. Mumei knows who she collabs with idiot, like all the others.

Also cut the shit already, none of the girls act like idols. You are also calling talents hoes for talking to men that have the same job as them. Idols talk to and work with men, are those idols hoes for that?

>>54133653
it definitely isn't the fans that are shitting on mumei and bae, anon

>>54132931
She has free will. And her free will has allowed her to completely ignore them after she was tricked.

>>54135610
You have the free will to stop seething about a year old collab, yet you choose not to because youre mentally ill. Maybe seek free will to not be a schizophrenic and get some therapy

>>54135685
I'm not seething, I don't know why you say that. I'm just pointing out the fact that she was tricked to do something a long time ago and then out of her own free will decided to never do it again. Nothing controversial about this fact anon.

>>54135822
>im not seething
>i bring it up whenever i can in the catalog only to get laughed at because its my literal head canon so it must be true

When did you get laughed out of /who/?

>>54132536
Mumei didn't interact with them at all on stream, and just made incoherent noises instead.

The bigger problem is the inconsistent streaming schedule and gaps.

>>54135909
What are you talking about anon? Lol. I've never said this before, I think you need to take a break from this site my guy.

>>54118218
>You retards know that at the forms of the audition there was a question if you were willingly going to collab with holostars, right??

Either link an archive thread talking about it, or post a picture of it.

>>54115706
hololive only grows stronger

New gens basically never affect the numbers of previous gens directly. The much more common problem is that a new gen with excellent talents comes out and never gets a chance because people are already entrenched in the existing one.

>>54121140
Maybe mind your own business

>>54132616
>>54132892
>>54135610
Or maybe she just thought it was worth trying once, didn't really enjoy it and decided to not do it again. You know, a normal human process.

>>54130393
>All of EN in the red except Gura who literally doesn't stream
>only one up is Fauna
Washed, done, out of trend, dead in the water.

Except best girl, obviously

>>54136641
You're not gonna convince a schizo that Mumei made her own decision then moved on. He has to pin the blame on someone because he sees it as a problem that has affected him mentally. His only release from this agony is a lobotomy

>>54130393
Would love to see this cross-referenced with hololyzer SC data.

>>54115706
The destroyers of Holo EN

>>54122835
Became a Tempus bicycle.
If only you knew the shit she say, basically another Ollie

>>54137133
Okay i'll need proofs

>>54136736
Pretty low correlation I feel, Mori and Kiara consistently are near the top of the SC charts despite being near the bottom of CCV charts.
Dunno the full situation in 2023 but I know they're still up there

>>54137133
>ESL seethe about catalog telephone shit he doesn't even know is what happened
Classic
Ollie's right btw, you're a uneducated lower class retard who will always be one

>>54136736
>Kiara and Mori having the highest SC in EN, despite the lowest CCV
How do people explain this?

>>54137418
They cry and shit themselves that the girls must be insecure about an arbitrary number despite living a comfortable 6 figure job and the chance to travel the world

Either the new gen will collab with males, or no EN will collab with males from now on. What a dumb thread.

>>54137418
for mori it's sunken cost fallacy
chimken it's probably the most loayal ones who're loaded

>>54137418
dedicated fans from civilized countries vs SEA tourists

>>54137418
They have the most significant drop in CCV, but that doesn't mean they weren't doing decent in 2022.

2023 SC numbers haven't been posted.

>>54116711
rumao

>>54137332
Ame shills the homos every week when she's not on a break. His statement is accurate enough

>>54138086
>""""Enough""""
Go cry on the holo subreddit

>>54136375
it's fine, and it's funny how the girls all group together often and left out bae,
that's the price for being a snake bae.
even council prefered kronii cause she never tricked or forced the others into homocollabs

>>54116494
next week for sure

>>54138290
Mumei literally has an offcollab stream with Bae scheduled later today
I don't think you watch either of these girls, you're just here to shitpost

>>54138290
>girls all group together often and left out bae
you're just going to make up history now?

>>54138290
This nigger doesnt even look at streams holy shit
Not a good look catalogfag

>>54138394
>>54138421
it took them at least a year later to fix,
u are the fools who never watch them at all since the beginning sisters
all the collabs the fau mei kro had, the slaps, the sudden meet ups.

>>54138607
Living on the other side of the planet does not equate to being left out. Stupid retard

>>54138607
Kronii got left out of Council streams so much that they were replacing Kronii in full Council streams with people like Haachama or Kaela

>>54138585
sisters lying that they even watch cute girls and not their chosen menheras.
whales only support whales as usual

>>54138264
I heard the homofans on reddit are upset that their posts get downvoted. Sounds like they could really use your help

>>54138853
>unicorn niggers are mentally ill enough to buy and build reddit bots to downvote on the subreddit
You sound like youre familiar. You should go back

>>54136581
Struck a nerve, sis?

The idea that these 4 girls are worse than the other 6 just because they collabed with males is asinine. Give me Ame, Bae and Kronii over Kiara any day, and give me Ame over YabaIRyS as well. Nobody outside of this schizophrenic shithole gives a fuck about these triangles anyway.

>>54116711

>>54138962
How many clips have you watched today to support tha bois?

>>54138962
it's not just downvotes, if you look at comments they're always telling homobeggars to just watch their homos instead of collabbegging

>>54116494
Mori...

>>54130150
>first collab is with Mori
You don't have to wait that long. In debut listen to see if she's inspired by Mori or Gura. That'll tell you everything you need to know.

>>54115706
based

No it's not, the Hololive fans have proven themselves time and time again Beta to the blood

Keep simping and watching streams, don't question bad business decisions because the management also have a "de-stress" room and could give a flying fuck about your Idol purity standards because the money at this point is enabled and limitless

Don't pretend like you idiots are stronger then that, you're stuck here and that's entirely, on You.

>>54138998
Yes, I strucked yours

>>54128594
>And that has the same or better work ethic than her
But she has 0 work ethic tough

>>54123641
>they star seething about them forever

>>54130150
Kronii and Kronii Jr will have sex when they offcollab, inshallah.

BUMP

>>54117518
If you had the slightest bit of empathy you would understand