/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

thank god. she's still safe and pure.

>>53897335
cool empathy disorder you've got there, marine

>>53897396
she's asian

>>53897335
When girls like Marine say stuff like this on stream I can only conclude that the only reason this board doesn't have daily meltdowns over the JP holos is the language barrier (they watch streamers in a language they can't understand and have no clue what they're saying).

>>53897396
It's the same as killing scrubs in a video game vs. killing someone in real life, though?

>>53897335
waifu speaking fax

>>53897441
Video games are for the mentally ill.

>>53897418
it's almost like there's a vast cultural difference between japan and the w*st. try looking at things with some context next time.

>>53897485
Half of the world plays it so?

>>53897441
it's not though, because i'm not killing people in a video game to satisfy a homicidal urge. it's not the same at all.

>>53897527
Then half of the world is mentally ill.

>>53897563
Aren't you, though, deep down?

>>53897563
Then why do you kill them?

What's the line between fiction and Fetish here? She LIKES it(fiction) but doesn't wanna see it happen to her/others? If she were to witness irl cuck shit to others she wouldn't be able to get horny?

>>53897485
Watching women pretend to be anime characters playing games however is truly the hobby of intellectuals.

>>53897681
>>53897441

>>All these ENfags concernfagging when their sub branch is in shambles.

>>53897335
Disgusting.

>>53897335
based, same logic with loli shit

>>53897681
Only reasoning I can think of is there's a lot less of a consequence in a manga, and I don't mean in context of the story, but she isn't like cucking someone she cares about by watching a fake gf of some faceless cuckman in a doujinshi.

>>53897335
But she is right. I like a lot of stuff in Hentai that I wouldn't even come close to in real life, like urination for example or dark skinned girls.
How did this board get overloaded with complete normalfaggots that don't understand that?

>>53897948
>How did this board get overloaded with complete normalfaggots that don't understand that?
Through western vtubers including holoEN.
I know this wasn't the answer you wanted but it's the truth.

>>53897485
Why aren’t you Fortnite’s number one player then?

>>53897396
I bet you're the type of guy that sees nothing wrong with loli VTubers

>>53897948
i'd like to think that it's just dramafaggots scraping for crumbs but with twittards invading the past year, i wouldn't be surprised if some of them are genuine.
>>53897991
i agree but i'd like to think that even EN vtuber fans don't really give a shit about this stuff. if you've been around otaku shit for more than a year you know this stuff is normal. probably some underage twitter teens

>>53898010
lolis do not exist irl, so the comparison makes no sense, while NTR certainly does. NTR is a concept while lolis is the body type of a 2d anime girl.

Vtubers are just second life lite. This hobby is filled with Faggots, dykes, troons and all sort of degenerates behind these thousands worth 2d characters. This "virtual idol" business is quite the successful money grab scheme. It always was.

>>53897948
I think the sad state of /r/hololive pushed people to /vt/ who wouldn't usually be here.

>>53898117
I thought so, no doujin/comic characters don't exist irl so whatever actions they do inside of a story has little to no effect on people in the real world. The comparison is apt, lolicons are just pedophiles

>>53897502
>Making crude sex jokes and stuff on stream :(
>Making crude sex jokes and stuff on stream, Japan :0

>>53897335
BASED HOT PIRATE! I KNEEL!

>>53897681
People can separate reality from fiction, the problem is understanding how big that separation is. Fundamentally speaking we can't separate ourselves totally otherwise reading or watching something would not elicit any kind of response, so there is at least something that makes people like that kind of thing. Now what that something is can vary, taking Marine as example she doesn't like the cheating itself but maybe likes something that is accompanied to it, the humiliation, the display of strength as blonde tanned MC takes the girl, the secret relationship, the corrupting of something that is pure, etc. Or she is lying. Or she didn't process the thought entirely. There are many things that can be happening there.
That said usually people understand that is something morally ambiguous or bad so you will rarely see someone IRL say shit like "oh i love cheating" unless they are completely retarded or morally bankrupt.

>>53898150
>This hobby is filled with Faggots, dykes, troons and all sort of degenerates in the west*
ftfy. yea i know babinikus and all that shit exist in jp vtubing too but you don't get these fags that can't talk about anything but their sexuality and politics like in the west

>>53898275
Yes.

>>53898225
Unless you're a lolicon yourself, how can you even explain what they think? There's no arguing with you

>>53897485
He says, on a website only mentally ill "people" use.

>>53897749
You will never be japanese

>>53897335
god i just want to marry and impregnate her

>>53898528
You will always be SEA.

>>53897485
ah you're one of those faggots, literally kill yourself

NTR is great. Dunno why people insist on self inserting as the cuck. Stealing another mans woman as he's forced to helplessly watch on is great stuff.

>>53897566
nah just you are faggot

>>53898610
i like netori for that reason

>>53897485
Yet here you are

>>53898117
>children aren't real
ok retard

Do you niggers really self insert into your porn shit?

>>53898779
lolis aren't necessarily children. get off my weeb board you uncultured swine.

>>53898281
>Or she didn't process the thought entirely.
One of the things about fiction is that you don't have to. In real life if you don't think things through you can suffer for it, in fiction though you can just ignore the parts you don't care for and it's fine.

>It's ok in fiction
Marine, you are a fictional character

>>53898610
because the focus of the story isn't on the man who gets the woman? are you retarded? why would you read a cuck story for 300 pages where you get to see your self-insert for half a page? you're just a delusional cuck.

>>53897948
>or dark skinned girls
Racism is not cool.

>>53898929
Is Marine's Pekorape fantasies her fiction fetish or real fetish?

>>53898338
The irony of saying this in a thread about a jap girl saying the same kind of shit.

>>53898281
She is lying. A woman like her can't be faithful. She let her true colors show for a while and now she's trying to backtrack by saying "in minecraft".

The difference compared to the loli question is that a loli is a fictional object which creates a very clear and obvious separation between fiction and reality, while Marine's fetish is entirely psychological and therefore exists in fiction and reality at the same time.

>>53898338
>muh western
Marine literally just talked about her fucked up sexuality and expected everyone to clap, but no one did and she got called out instead.

>>53899245
It's also not possible to like cheating only in fiction.

>>53897335
are people really surprised that she is a normal person without mental fucking illnesses?

>>53899245
Are you objectifying women, you misogynistic piece of shit?

>>53899327
So over half of the western world has mental illnesses now?

>>53899483
Well, yes

>>53899483
Yes? That's been obvious for more than a decade now.

>>53897335
Reading it twice, she’s just saying that she will not actively pursue guys but if one woo her then she will give in and keep the secret, basically the same as many jap women whom have romantic ideas about experiencing an affair at least once for the thrill. To clarify a bit further, from the perspective of girls, NTR is about being forced into a one stand night with a hottie while cheating is about her doing some actions that when discovered, will ruin her social life instantly.

>>53897335
Holy Based Senchou

>>53897335
Anyone who says something like this is either huffing industrial copium or making a pointless semantic distinction. Just because you don't want to actually do something IRL for legal, moral, practical, etc. reasons doesn't mean you wouldn't find it arousing. I'd go so far as to say you necessarily would if it's something you greatly enjoy in fiction, and that claims you "don't like it in real life" are moving the goalpost to a context where it's infeasible instead of taking the good faith argument of an ideal circumstance.

>>53897418
>/vt/
>watching streams
See >>53897502 for the actual mindset when they see clips or screenshots from clips.

>>53897412
It all makes sense now

>>53897335
Faxx, me loving lolies on internet has no correlation to pedo shit. Like niggas stop with schizophrenia and realize reality isn't the same as fiction. I also jack off to gender bender shit, but hate troons and homos like Hitler did jews.

>>53899327
>>53901157
>>53901884
>without mental illnesses
>still has sexual fantasies where people get hurt
you don't get off that easily.

>>53897335
Based wife and whore in the bed.

>>53901250
yeah, "it's not real" doesn't really answer the question.

>>53901250
Yeah anyone that has ever masturbated to rape would actually love to get raped in real life. That's how it works.

I watch gay hentai, but I'm not a faggot. I know how to separate fiction from reality.

>>53901395
To be fair, Marine is one of the most hated if not THE most hated jap holo on this board.

>>53898610
it's immoral to self-insert as any of the three parties.

>>53900218
based on other stuff she's into, it might be that she likes the idea that she would attract someone enough for them to act against their better judgement. (maybe it's insecurity.)

>actual NPCs/schizophrenics cant differentiate between fiction and reality
I bet you actually believe Okayu is a real cat

lolis are real. they're defined as hags wearing cutesy clothes to make themselves look young and breedable.

>>53897563
You're still killing people, choose your fucked up motivation from a list and pass it as some selfless act.

>>53902320
When the fetish is based on reality there is no differentiation.

>>53901250
Exactly, the only thing preventing me from going on a rampage and running over hundreds of pedestrians like in GTA is social norms.

>>53902128
You're doing the same thing you stupid faggot. They're schlicking to SOMEthing when they read rape porn, and there's a reason they repeatedly go to it instead of other genres. If they could get raped by mystery ghost man with no chance of impregnation or followup and then regenerate their hymen afterwards, they'd do it in a heartbeat

>>53902412
Thanks for proving my point right away you braindead schizophrenic

>>53902222
You’re still a faggot.

>>53902479
You're moving the goalpost and huffing industrial copium. If they love rape in fiction, they would be turned on during a real rape.

>>53901930
My paternal instincts are stronger than sexual desire, i can't handle kids crying in movies. One time i almost slaped my mother in the face, because she was ignoring my sister crying. Take your meds schizo.

>>53902355
it's not the fictional act that's the problem, it's getting off to the idea of it. the idea doesn't exist in fiction or reality, it exists in your mind and is therefore the same regardless. when you kill people in a video game you're not emotionally connected to it at all, UNLESS you're some sort of psychopath who gets off TO THE IDEA of killing people with no consequence. i'm ESL so i'm bad at explaining myself, but i hope you get what i mean. there's a difference there.

>>53902612
Even if they would be aroused during rape, that doesn't imply that they want to be raped. And that's not a pointless semantic distinction.

>>53897396
She's not wrong. I don't enjoy NTR myself, but it doesn't affect me when it comes up in a manga or hentai, because I don't self insert and understand fictional characters are just that, fiction. They are just pretty drawings. Even if I get super immersed in a story, it will irritate me if it catches me off guard, but I either drop the manga if it made no sense for the NTR to happen or just get over it, because it's only a manga and the story is good.

>>53902781
>that doesn't imply that they want to be raped
But it does if they keep seeking out rape porn.

>>53897335
Wait, so if I'm a lolicon that doesn't mean I'm a pedophile?

>>53902412
Pedophilia is based on reality.

>>53897335
>Explaining vtubing to people trying to take it too seriously.

>>53902837
No it does not.

>>53897396
irl =/= 2D crazy thought right??

>>53897335
>Marine
Whore, but talented and don't insult fans
>Twitch vtuber
Whore, don't know how to say a phrase without dick and call fans losers and incels

Not that hard to understand

>>53902950
Yes it does.

>>53902859
Do you get a chubby when passing a middle school? No? Then you good.

Wow, it's like she's actually a sensible person playing a character role really well

>>53902612
No, (You) are moving the goalpost by insinuating that the extended consequences of a "real rape" are what turns rape fetishists on rather than the act in isolation. Some fetishes like that, ones with permanent lasting effects like rape and guro and cheating, are simply impractical in real life and/or could only be executed a single time, and thus there are obvious disincentives towards engaging in that type of play that outweigh the value of one good nut. Still doesn't mean it wouldn't be a damn good nut.
>>53902781
You're right but that's not what she or anyone else whenever this timeloop starts is saying. "I don't want to actually do it" is one thing. "I only like it in fiction and not IRL" is another.

>>53902999
>>53899245
>>53902721

>>53903163
If I say I want to rape you, since you exist that would make me a rapist just because of my word alone? Take your fucking medication already schizo and learn that not everything on your screen is real

>>53903128
If they like it in fiction they like it in real life, idiot. Even you're saying it but now you're saying that's not how it works. Stop moving the goalpost and huffing copium.

Reason this thread wasn't deleted is because janny is arguing how their fetish is ok, but other people are sick.

>>53897396

>>53897335
NTR is literally a term that shitposters use to make people melt down and derail the thread

>>53903244
You've kinda lost me now, that's what I've been espousing from the start. At what point were you disagreeing with me?

>>53903128
>that's not what she or anyone else whenever this timeloop starts is saying
>Anyone who says something like this is either huffing industrial copium or making a pointless semantic distinction.
So is she saying it or not?

>>53903062
>I don't like twitch!
>Because le chat... SCARES ME!!

>>53903243
no, but if you told me that you love rape and murder but that you only do it in a video game so it's okay i would stay the fuck away from you.

>>53903370
You said her saying she likes something in fiction but not in real life is bullshit and moving goalposts because she actually does like it in real life.

Liking NTR is too general. There is a specific reason why someone would love NTR. Be it art, the characters, the absurdity of the situation or the dialogue.

>>53903367
NTR comes from doujinshi, dumbass.

>>53897335
So does this mean her anal play fetish is also bullshit and just a fantasy and she isn't really into it? Marine sounding like one of those vanilla chicks who acts raunchy for attention but is boring as fuck when you get alone with them.

>>53901930
I bet you crying when seeing a gun in videogame soichama.

>>53899291
It is, in fact I would say it's the only "sane" or at least most normal way to like it. Because there's no one being damage. You the reader are not being damaged and the "people" in the story are fictional, so there's no real repercussions or any of the baggage cheating brings. It's kinda like how some people like anime traps because they're essentially just anime girls with a dick drawn on, but a real tranny is gross as fuck.

Your oshi is built for netori.

>>53903491
I like NTR because it's like a romantic drama but with porn.

>>53903369
>that's not what she or anyone else whenever this timeloop starts is saying
referring to the previous anon's attempt to rephrase the claim
>Anyone who says something like this
"this" referring to what she actually says in the OP pic which i am using to make a distinction from the aforementioned post in the post that you're trying to use as a "gotcha"
>>53903475
So do you agree or do you not? I don't see the distinction you're trying to make between this post and your previous

>>53903475
You really expect people HERE to know the difference between reality and fiction?
LOL

>>53903638
Yeah I agree that if you love rape in fiction you also love it in real life. Marine is a loose woman according to her own words and she's just trying to damage control by moving the goalposts.

>>53903463
>>53903243

>>53902412
so killing in game is same as killing in real life? murder is based on real life after all.

>>53903830
i think you may have 80 iq

>>53903953
How does it feel knowing that someone with 80iq knows that the picture on your screen isnt real

>>53903985
>being proud of arguing against your own strawmen
my sides are in orbit

Honestly at a certain point i stopped being triggered by NTR and find most of the stories just straight up humorous at this point. Even so i still hate these kind of doujinshi where the author gets all preachy and it's more about the drama than the sex, and of course the two tags that more attract those types of doujin are the loli and ntr tags, another doujin about the "dark side of idol industry where a girl becomes hyper-sexual after being raped and starts doing hard drugs? very original man.

>>53902859
There is a difference between enjoying being surrounded by cute kids vs wanting to fuck them. As long as you are not trying to fuck or touch a kid inappropriately, you're not a pedo. Nothing wrong enjoying seeing a cute kid just having fun.

>>53903569
No, it comes from the Japanese language.

>>53904064
The fact that people get triggered by NTR is absolutely pathetic

>>53904158
it's weak small dick energy, they are projecting their insecurities

>>53904064
>>53904158
>>53904247
Cucks

>>53904269
i will raw dog your oshi.

>>53904064
>another doujin about the "dark side of idol industry where a girl becomes hyper-sexual after being raped and starts doing hard drugs? very original man.
I never thought of that scenario as "preachy", are you sure you aren't reading into it a bit too much?

>>53904158
But not surprising. There are people that get mad when a female vtuber interacts with a male.

Since it's an interesting topic, let's talk hypothetical here. I sometimes jerk off to eromanga about cumming into foods and the women inadvertently eating said foods. But the sheer imagination of me seeing a real video of it sickens me.
That is the only scenario I can sympathize with Marine. But I also can't fathom to imagine how someone who likes NTR doesn't like cheating.

>>53903455
How the fuck fags that uses emotes every 2 seconds would scare me.There's good chuubas on twitch but I said it whole because it's easier to understand and we all know that platform helps whores, almost all the top female there, vtuber or not, is a whore.

>>53904079
But that anon is implying he enjoys lolicon ero manga I think.

>>53904596
Your particular problem is probably that your fetish cannot translate into real life since manga cum is nothing like real cum, and in that context of physical impossibility, I think it's fair to say. But even then it's shifting the argument a little, because if real life cum WERE like manga cum, you'd probably be jerking off to videos of it right now

those who kill must be prepared to die

>>53904158
>Not liking cheating is pathetic
What point we reached...
And yes, I know how to different from fiction and reality but I don't like it in neither, simple as that.

>>53897335
>'Cause that's got nothing to do with me. Of course I would hate it if it's about me
So what if it is about you? If there is an ntr doujin where you cuck your fans? What then?

>>53897335
>tfw this train of thought filters like 90% of this board and at least 50% of all humans
I'm so lucky to have a smart oshi

>>53903628
woman moment

>>53897335
why can't western liberals get such a simple concept as this?

>>53904939
There's a difference between not liking cheating and going full on screaming and crying because a genre exists or someone says those three letters. That type of behavior makes everyone think that you're overly sensitive and an actual cuck.

Why are all asians so brain rotted, they don't realize that actions in fiction still have impact in the real world?

>Oh it's fiction dummy, I can distinguish between reality and fiction
>Years later and brain rot
>Society crumbles

>>53905229
reality and fiction are different.

>>53905271
You do realize that Japan is in a major birthrate decline right? Japan is nothing but coom coom coom and it's brain rotted them all, seeking the next high. Next she'll take about scat or some other fetish that should be outlawed

>>53905368
>c buzzword
I accept your concession

>>53904247
what is happening with the world when someone who loves seeing their partner get dicked down by a random guy thinks they have big dick energy. absolutely bizarre state of affairs.

>>53905405
>no argument
You lost

>>53898275
Yes because they haven't been faggified by the west. Look at all those shitheads unironically going to see the Barbie movie and wearing pink. They should chop their penises off at the door.

>>53902837
>>53905229
your argument is the same as saying lolicons want to have sex with real children.
>>53905368
the coom shit came after the decline, its not the cause.
white people birthrate is also going down and most of them arent coomers.

>>53905643
>your argument is the same as saying lolicons want to have sex with real children.
but it's true, they are pedophiles. If left unchecked he would go all the way with someone if given the chance

The coom shit came right at the decline, access to free and abundant coom shit of any kind, books, games, videos etc all available to buy in store when normal society would shun it to the back corner of an alleyway. Japan proudly showcases it.

>>53905643
>the coom shit came after the decline, its not the cause.
and therefore it can't affect the already bad birthrate and make it even worse? what kind of retarded logic is this? there can be more than 1 issue pushing a problem forward.
>white people birthrate is also going down and most of them arent coomers.
is this a joke? the west is in the late stage capitalism-tier phase of coomerism, where it has become normalized to teach kindergarten kids about masturbation and anal sex.

>>53905553
Yeah I hate when men aren't manly. I just want more manly men in the world all around me. Just like you. Penises, masculine ones. Everywhere. Sweaty manly masculine penises that would never watch Barbie. That's what I care about. Glad we can connect on something important.

>>53905424
There are people who are indifferent to retarded fetishes. It doesn't mean that they endorse said retarded fetishes.
There are also people who know that there are droves of cuckposters out there who are trying to get people to expose themselves as cucks via their complaining whenever NTR is mentioned.
The best way to win is to not engage and more people should know that.

>>53903128
Without any negative consequences or anything to fear afterwards isn't the act in isolation woman just having rough sex with a guy? I think at least for women with the fetish the drama is a big part of the appeal.

>>53905643
You cant reason with people who think that thoughts are crimes. They're just left wing american culture terrorists.

because it's a doujin DUUUUHH just because I enjoyed that 300 pound silverback barbarian giving liters of bukkakes to the village housewives doesn't mean I'm delusional enough to try think I can do that shit in real life, It's enjoyable because it's fantasy dumbfucks. if anything you should like Marine more because she enjoyed reading those NTR villains do unrealistic degenerate bullshit

>>53905987
The fact that you typed that is a reflection of the society itself, go anywhere else in the world and the thought of that would never come across any persons mind for hundreds of years. Go to japan and half the population would think thats normal.

>>53905875
no, there's a reason bullying exists. it's a correction system to protect a group of people from the social contagion of highly deviant individuals. they should not be ignored, they should be assimilated or gatekept for the sake of the long-term health of not just our hobby but for the sake of society as a whole.

>>53906067
>this is just like society (which we live in) (I'm trans btw)
pathetic

>>53906079
You're the one whose mind is dominated by cuckshit.

>>53906067
>killers would have killed everyone if not for the laws of this land

>>53906067
shut the fuck up bitch even the ones who though your morals fap to hentai nowadays

>>53897726
this but unironically

>>53903128
If they're the type to intellectually fetishize the drama as well instead of just wanting to be forcefully moved around during the act, then yeah, I don't think they'd fall prey to this line of thought. Having it happen IRL would be a guilty fantasy that they have to actively hold back with reason

>>53897396
spbp

>>53906302
Esl-kun...
>>53906289
What does that even mean? Killing and Sex are two completely different things?

>>53902820
Sometimes the feelings are overlapped, when you don't want these thing to happen to you, so you hated it, even if it didn't really happen (being a fiction). But I know that is a fiction, and as long it didn't based on real life events, I will just not read it

>NTR is bad cause you have to self insert as the guy who gets their wife/gf stolen
Most of the time when I check them the pov is from the woman's side and sometimes the bad guy. Meanwhile this beta male you guys talk about that you are apparently supposed to be self inserting into, is often just there for the first 1 or 2 pages and then they disappear until the last few ones where they check up on their girl while she's being fucked, assuming they are even given some screen time as sometimes its the girl saying they have a boyfriend but never shows up anyway.

>>53898976
It's just a preference bro.

>>53904064
most of the times i just jackoff to untranslated NTR doujins, the stories always the same anyway

>>53906485
>Meanwhile this beta male you guys talk about that you are apparently supposed to be self inserting into, is often just there for the first 1 or 2 pages and then they disappear
I think the reason you see so many complaints about this kind of thing is because in terms of quantity, the above scenario is on-par if not less frequent than ones that put blatant focus on the cuck. That's the perspective most creators are going at it from at least if not the same for their target audiences

>I enjoy self-inserting as the orc
>Marine enjoyed getting fucked by the orc
simple as

>>53905840
>where it has become normalized to teach kindergarten kids about masturbation and anal sex
how about giving me proof that theyre teaching anal sex?
oh right you dont have any because its shit youre hearing fourth hand from a bunch of retards who are known to take shit and exaggerated it to fit their narrative.
you probably didnt even get sex ed taught to you as a child so you have no clue what happens during it.
>>53906067
anon... one of japans famous old paintings is tentacle porn.
the greeks and romans had created engravings of guys fucking horses and donkeys.
or how the mongols raped and pilliaged those who refused to join them.
humans have thought about and done a lot of shit before.
>>53906446
>Killing and Sex are two completely different things?
theyre really not that different, both of acts of passion usually.

>>53905424
>their partner
there you go again mixing fiction with reality

>>53906485
naaah thats a cope
most ntr garbage is specifically made to force you to look from the cuck perspective

Did senchou ever tell what are the titles she red?

>>53897335
Exactly. Fucking this. Senshou is wise as always has been. It's the same shit with almost all hentai fetishes including lolicon. They are great on paper but on reality they're disgusting

>he can't separate fantasy from reality
skill issue

>>53899245
Your logic is flawed since there're pedophiles in real life, so you can say lolis aren't fictional only since there're little girls. I don't agree with this btw, just that you should think more before posting

>>53906947
She loves all of doujin mukashibanashi works

NTR is garbage no matter what

>>53907497
oh nyo

>>53897396
Nice lack of imagination, bro.

>>53898010
There's nothing wrong with loli vtubers besides that fact that oppai vtubers are superior

>>53897749
this

I remember the only NTR doujin I actually kinda liked was this one where theatre kid is basically getting cucked by the chad because the chad and the MC's crush are the lead in a play and keep practising the kissing scene in front of him, and I think he does catch them fucking. MC runs off and their teacher pity-fucks him even though she's married and it flips a switch in his brain where decides to try and cuck basically every single dude he can find. It very explicitly paints him as a bad person for it too, and the last one he does is basically tricking a classmate into thinking that her gym teacher crush is disgusted by her when he's actually okay with it, and then fucks when she's at her most vulnerable.

Lost my interest when a nothing Gyaru side character organized a gang rape of his harem in front of them, felt like it kinda lost the plot. Wish I remembered it's name

>>53907154
>doesn't know what a loli is
>tells others to think more before posting
lmao, i fucking can't

>>53909456
>i fucking can't
back to twitter sis

>>53909456
>i fucking can't
Fucking read? I noticed

>>53909541
>>53909545
i get it, you love being cucked. just own up to it instead of these weird mental gymnastics you're doing.

So we're all taking the position that MLP cloppers want to fuck horses, right?

>>53909670
and that people who play violent games are psychos

>>53909582
got'em sis

>>53899248
>expected everyone to clap, but no one did and she got called out instead.
Please tell me this actually happened because it'll be just awesome

>>53902479
>>53901250
These arguments are self defeating. You're literally admitting the only reason somebody would want to live out a fantasy in like this in real life is because it would happen in a fantasy setting and not a real life setting. Well, yeah. That's literally the point.

If it was in a controlled simulated setting in which every condition made her comfortable and there were no moral or legal ramifications and she didn't have to worry about any harm to herself or others -- that's just a fantasy setting.

>>53907154
>>53899245
>>53898779
>>53898010
lolicons can have scenarios where she's mentally an adult; NTR is a dynamic that inherently harms someone.

>>53897335
DAMAGE CONTROL

>>53909976
many people have fantasies that don't involve harm; why does she have ones that do? it still reflects on her character. (poorly.)

>>53902467
it would also be a lot of work.

>>53909976
I don't think that actually is the point she's making though. If it were, I'd agree. It's this kind of anti-self-insertion principle you see pop up with disturbing frequency in coombrain circles where they literally cannot even imagine being in the physical position of one of their doujin protagonists and are unwilling to admit it'd be sexy even when you repeatedly insist it's just a fantasy hypothetical

>>53910126
Most girls have fantasies involving "harm" in some way, usually to themselves, you dumb virgin.

>>53910357
Her fantasy is harming her own loved one.

>>53909005
>Ntr are retarded scenarios that can form in the blink of a eye, because.
Pretty much.

>>53906660
well, why do you need a third party?

>>53897335
Yup, I love netorare in doujinshi but I'm not fond of the idea of having your partner cheat on you and witnessing the act, that's fucked up. I mostly read it because I love fictional women being whores p plus the art is weirdly great sometimes

>>53910357
I've noticed. it's still not based.

(don't let her control you.)

>>53905165
It's intentional. If you make it easy to disconnect reality from fantasy, then it's harder to sell propaganda in the guise of fantasy.

>>53904596
Same reason why some fujos like yaoi but are grossed out by actual fags. The 2D nature of it completely sterilizes it.

>>53902308
>>53910126
>>53910506
Why do you hate Marine so much and why do you post in her general?

>>53909670
>>53902320
>>53901884
you missed the point; many people don't have those kinds of fantasies. so, why do the people who have them have them?

>>53910652
Well, why do they have them? Please educate everyone on the matter.

>>53910652
I dunno, you seem to think you know, so why not elucidate us?

216 rep 91 ip this board is truly rent free from a EN TL clip.

i really dont understand western faggots upsetting over this. is that a woke thing? to me it looks like she just says a super normal thing. my taste or sexual preference is very different between in fiction and irl. like flat chest might be good in anime but irl its pretty meh. cant western dumb niggers unironically treat them differently? if so isnt it a bit too religious? know if they admit that they can their loli is pedo narrative collapses tho.

>>53897396
This.

>>53897335
This is sane.

>>53897948
Zoomers don't understand the divide between reality and fiction. It's fucking weird but you can really see it a ton everywhere.

>>53911361
If it was an EN saying it, you'd be shitting all over them.

>>53911361
FICTION AND REALITY ARE THE SAME!
IT IS!

>>53909670
>>53909757
These are both true btw

>>53912343
which means the stories in the bible are real. it must be an amerimutt thing. they are super religious.

I mean how isn't this obvious to anyone?
Like any discussion of incest among /h/ fags is a good example because almost everyone talking candidly will admit they find the real life equivalent either utterly fucking disgusting as an idea or incomprehensible to them.

>>53897335
I don't believe it, she want to cuck Pekora's Papa IRL and fuck/rape Pekomama

>>53913531
That means she is cucking me and now im going to have to complain about getting cucked.

FEELS GOOD TO BE A ntrCHAD

>>53904871
well, as long as he doesn't get a boner from real kids instead of a drawing, as most of the time the art does not really look like an actual irl kid. I think he's fine. however, the legality of having that type of imagery can vary depending on country.

>>53897335
Fantasy is not reality, OP. In reality most people are actually pretty vanilla.

People who seethe about NTR must also think violent games cause people to go on a rampage too

>>53897485
Based, preach king

>>53915236
people who seethe at ntr are the exact opposite of those who seethe at video games

Tldr: Posting shitty bait of Marine gets (you)s

Incel thread

>>53897335
Reasonable. I'd rather NTR not be there in the same sense I'd rather never see an ugly bastard, but if the art is good, I'm capable of holding my nose.
Also some of it is written in a way where it's actually easier to empathize with one doing the NTR than the one getting NTR'd.

>>53897335
>i dont like irl ntr
>asian woman
thats not believable at all lol

>>53897396
The inability to seperate fiction from reality is the biggest symptom of empathy disroder tho. While this portion of the clip starts with her talking about herself and how she's not a projectionfag for her porn she then goes onto how if its a story there are few limitions on what is acceptable.

>>53915571
tl;dr: Posting any chuuba mentioning NTR gets (You)s

>>53897335
>children getting raped
>It's not real, it's just a drawing
>ntr
>THIS IS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON IF YOU LIKE THIS
It's just insecurity, right?

>>53917095
people are confusing what the distinction between fiction and reality actually means and are applying it way too broadly. it's about actions and objects being okay in one but not the other. it's different if you're turned on by the idea of something though.

>anons itt can't separate fiction from reality
I thought I was on Twitter reading a post by a 14 year old girl for a second.

>>53917889
stop following 14 year old girls.

>>53917095
If she is turned on by NTR that means she also likes it IRL. There is no differentiating between reality and "fiction" in that case because the distinction is irrelevant.

>>53917519
who are you quoting?
retardo-kun, people bitch about loli porn all the time.

>>53918025
not really. i watch tons of lesbian content, but real life lesbians are almost always gross.

>>53918075
what if the lesbians were hot though?

>>53897681
Its easy man, she is into:
A)treesome
B)voyeuris.
C) corruption/mind brake/ role playd rape
Basicly like the kink of ntr, but only as long as consensual.

>>53918025
And any arousal she feels over it in real life is overpowered by either the pain of being cheated on, or guilt from hurting someone else. Thus she can enjoy it in the safety of fiction but cannot in real life. This isn't fucking complicated holy shit.

>>53897335
>Marked for deletion (old).

>>53918025
Take your meds schizo.

>>53897335
NTR is ok in short form, barely acceptable in a story arc format. But keep that shit away from mainstream for the love of god. It’s gotten so popular lately I have to check reviews/comments before I read a manga now to see if it has ntr or not

>>53919298
That's the fun of it though. It's even better when it's a surprise.

>>53897335
do any japs actually care about what she said or is it just westerners?

>>53918039
Those aren't the same people complaining about NTR on 4chan.

>Marinefags defending ntr and attacking lolicons
Marineschizo is right about Marine and her faggot fans.

>>53919728
Why talk about yourself in third person?

>>53919728
Marine"schizo" is actually a good guy. He defends chuubas from Marine and her clique and their fans.

>>53919498
i didnt say they are the same people

>>53919867
Why are you talking to yourself? This is schizophrenia.

>>53919911
Then what the hell is your point?

>>53905987
but why do you enjoy that? not everyone does. doesn't that desire reveal some aspect of you?

If you told me 3 years ago that Marine will nonchalantly talk about her passion for ntr in front of her gachikoi I would start hysterically laughing at you.
Yet here we are.
Social media brainwashed her.

Not liking NTR is low empathy and low IQ. It's like a horror game/movie. You get the rush of emotions without consequences.
If you've noticed, most anons who can't grasp this concept are using broken English.
Google average IQ and Schizophrenia rates in SEA.

>>53920586
Okay, now THIS is cuck mentality.

>>53920586
you meant liking ntr is low empathy and low iq
i dont know why you typed NOT at the beginning?

>>53920727
Oh look, broken English

>>53897335
Unironic closet faggot thread

>>53920827
retard

>>53921036
Post hand

Love how any thread with NTR mentioned will always hit bump limit

these fuckers that can't separate the RM and the chuuba are really lecturing people on separating 2d vs irl huh?

Any time I read a doujin that has NTR I can't help but consider the position of the sad sack who got cucked and I feel bad. Netori usually takes measures to make the cucked into a piece of shit, so I can somewhat justify it, but bog standard netorare is typically just some loser with a weak dick and a passive personality getting dominated. I simply do not see the appeal, why would you get off to someone whose only sin is being pathetic? That's 99% of /vt/ so it's like self-flagellation.

>>53920586
>Not liking NTR is low empathy and low IQ.
This has to be bait. It's the notion of empathy what makes mentally sane people revolt against seeing any person (real or fictional) getting emotionally hurt, same as being afraid of what could happen to characters in a horror movie.

Imagine how much that hag gets off to being fucked after a stream

>>53900218
Exactly. People don't realize how often Japanese women in particular cheat

>>53922075
No, it's their sense of morality and christcuckedness. How low IQ can you be? Non-empaths would literally get NOTHING out of NTR because they wouldn't feel anything. Truly fucking retarded post, anon

>>53913261
Incest isn't a very good example though. You can formulate a hypothetical where you have a hot mom or sister, even if in reality that is extremely not the case. I can't really do that with ntr because it's predicated on ruining someones life for sexual gratification. Incest is some goofy forbidden love fetish, the latter is cruelty. I would put NTR with guro more than incest. You can like guro or ntr and never do that in real life and that's fine, but I can't help but worry about the mental state of someone who gets off to it. Like if they had 10% less self-restraint they'd be a threat to society.

>>53917519
It's always insecurity.
That's why you can spot the cucks by the immense amount of protesting they do everytime someone decides to troll them by waving around a png of a girl talking to a guy.

>>53898610
>stealing a woman from a man is hot to me, a man, as the action is sexual
>a sexual action refers to the agent, me, doing thr sexual action to the object, the other man
>doing a sexual action to a person is being sexual with the person
>being sexual with another man is hot to me
just cuz your dicks in a woman doesn't change the fact that your brain being gay is what made it hard in the first place nigga

>>53902128
>Yeah anyone that has ever masturbated to rape would actually love to get raped in real life
As someone who spent a few years exploring this a little too much, I'm being honest here when I say that you would be very surprised by some things
That period in my life showed me how massive peoples fronts are publicly

>>53920586
Okay Jew

>>53910430
Is it really all that different from those rape doujins of turning women into cum dumpsters that guys will read?

>>53926240
lets be honest though, those fronts are to protect themselves and others, if those who wanted to get raped were more honest about it, it could cause some less desirable morons to think its okay to do it in general just because theres some freaks who are into it.
if sexual harassment is a common problem these days while we shunned such actions, imagine a world where we didnt shun that behavior.
this isnt me moralfagging, im just pointing out theres a reason for why people put up these fronts despite being into it.

I watch married chuuba and imagine fucking them because I'm into netori.

>>53912272
it is so hard for them and mentally exhausting, their degraded IQ can only process that much.

>>53897335
I don't get it, can someone clarify? Is separating fiction from reality a bad thing nowadays?

>>53897335
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Doesn't make a difference whether you get off on it or not, fiction=/=reality, that's just the brains of NORMAL PEOPLE work.
I love anal in hentai but in real life it's gross because it's a cock covered in invisible poop germs. Rape is an extremely common fetish among women yet none want to be raped for real.
People who mix real life with fiction should NOT be allowed to ever perform any fetishes because that's how you fuck yourself up real bad. There are plenty of cucks who do NTR in real life and regret it because they don't understand this difference.

>>53910022
I could say there's an NTR scenario where the original lover is a rapist and the one stealing is a pure soul. The difference is with lolicons regardless of how "mentally old" the loli is or "9000 years" the main attraction will always be the child body which in modern times is deemed immoral.

>>53910549
you're gonna have to give me some more context, buddy.

>>53910529
Makes sense.

>>53927487
This fandom doesn't have normal people who have functional social lives and average intelligence. It's majorly full of people who literally cannot tell what is real and what is not real on top of irrational fears of various boogeymen of their own making.

>>53918292
>As long as it is consensual
So Netorase is fine?

>>53898935
Cause in a typical Netorare, most of the focus is on the girl and the guy she is fucking. The "MC" becomes a background piece after a few pages.
>300 pages
I'm guessing you are the actual delusional cuck enjoyer, self-inserting as the irrelevant one.

>>53926904
i imagine being married and letting someone else fuck my wife so I can spend more time on 4chan.

>>53905424
So what if I'm the random guy dicking some poor sobs girl? I fucked my coworker for a year, while her husband was still back in Japan.

>>53910549
to annoy (you).

>OP is another one of these shitty clip-caption rrat collages
>300 posts DORYAAAAAAAA
Fuck this shitty board.

>>53926406
kike detector

>>53897681
Lots of men fantasise about fighting and dying in an epic war but in reality no I don’t want to get exploded by artillery

>>53897991
This board didn’t fucking exist before HoloEN you retarded fucking newfag

>>53897335
Marine is love

>>53918025
You are literally insane if you honestly beleive this.

>>53897396
The fuck are you on about, I fap almost exclusively to impregnation stuff, doesn't mean I want to impregnate my girlfriend or other consenting people if I have the chance. Bringing new life to this world is not something you casually do for fetish, it's psychological. Marine understands that NTR is also psychological

>>53936655
so you don't even find the idea of impregnating your girlfriend hot then, without wanting to act on it? because if you do, the distinction between reality and fiction is already blurred to a point where it's no longer a relevant distinction to make. you're just proving my point here my man.

>>53897360
fpbp

>>53902255
>Marine is one of the most hated if not THE most hated jap holo on this board.
meds

>>53922671
>ummm akshully, you are full of empathy when you enjoy someone innocent being cheated on and heartbroken

award for most retarded thread of the year so far.