/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53828990
>western women when their job is to be an idol

>>53829092
>western

She’s just sillymaxxing

>>53828990
Made for paizuri

But I thought Kronii is.....you know...


She wouldn't do stuff like this....

>>53828990
Seems like her merch not selling (of which she gets a cut) was a wake-up call.

>>53830015
>Seems like her merch not selling (of which she gets a cut) was a wake-up call.
Wouldn't be surprised if someone like Mori convinced her that she could do things that would potentially alienate fans without any financial impact; then realized the hard way that Mori is a moron.

To think she could have gotten off with just a few half-assed I love yous every month and raked in the simp bucks.
Now she can barely keep an audience while literally pretending to suck cock on stream.

>>53830614
>Wouldn't be surprised if someone like Mori
It was definitely Mori and she's felt the recline too. She's been coombaiting with sexy new outfits and thumbnails a shit ton recently.

>>53829092
>women
>idol

>>53828990
YABA DABBA DOO~

>>53830015
>>53830614
>>53830688
it's a chinktok meme you dumb negros

>>53830771
Go back

>>53828990
The slurping was just that tiktok NPC meme
Now her talking about how hot and sweaty she is all stream and telling us when she's undressing, that's the real coom content

>>53830821
Clockfags, please post it

>>53830771
i was talking about the nigger of nippon

>>53828990
>Kronii doing this shit
>Right after Bae and Calli played a hentai game on stream, Calli UNCENSORED

I don't think the girls are under a steel fist from management or anything, but I wonder if they got instructions/suggestions to push things a little farther in an erotic direction. Especially other girls in the agency have been lightly, very apologetic-like, pushing back on erotic content of their characters. The second part is probably just delusions on my part though.

>>53830008
She's embracing the Broadcast Jockey element of her Korean heritage.

>>53830771
>it's a chinktok meme you dumb negros
Why do you know this?

>>53831019
..you guys told me Kronii was a....
This is out of character for her.....

>>53830903
Suisei is and always has been anti-lewd posting. At least in public channels. Plenty of Holos couldn't care less or actively encourage it. In other words, Cover is actually doing the right thing in letting individual talents set their own boundaries without Yagoo Diktats.

>>53830873
https://youtu.be/ce781kOpJl0
Watch the full stream for more

>>53831279
God I wish wegs was a bigger industry. Kronni would be the superstar.

>>53829375
>Kronii
>women

>>53828990
ONLYFANS ARC
SOON
HAHAHAHAHA

FINALLY! KRONI EMBRACE SEX! KRONI EMBRACE DIGS! YES KRONI! YES! TAKE THAT VESPER DIGS!

>>53828990
Is she starting to approach GFE stuff now again when her husband is in jail?

>>53831469
Huh? I'm not in jail tho

>>53830618
She has 5-6k viewers on average and a ton of memberships. Also gets quite a few donos. That is literally the dream of 99% of western chuubas.
I wouldn't be upset about her income.

>>53831604
yah but she knows she could have had 2X that but botched it

>>53831794
>rich woman could be richer
Man that must be rough

>>53831794
It could be far more than double, her income has crashed massively since the yab last year
Her second year total income is 20% or less compared to her first year. It's still a really good income but she has to be aware that she fucked herself out of a lot of money

>>53831939
You joke, but that is literally what happens whenever someone manages to get a seat on the gravy train (whatever it may be). No matter how much they bring in, it's never enough.

Serious question.

If you were getting a paizurimjob from Kronii, how long would you last?

>>53832060
GOOD fk her,
let her do hoe stuff since she wanna be a homo begging supporter hoe

>>53832060
Isn't that the case with most chuubas tho'? First year usually counts their debuts + buff month(s) until the novelty wears off. Second year is always pretty tame compared to the first.
Is there anyone on the EN side that had a bad first year but then completely turned it around in the second year?

>>53828990
Did you even watch the clip?
it wasn't erotic, it was from a meme where a girl keeps thanking people in this really weird way.

>>53832253
>Isn't that the case with most chuubas tho'?
Not really no. The first month after monetization is usually a huge buff and it goes down after that but in terms of year-to-year earnings they can go up over time if the chuuba is doing well or drop off if she performs poorly or goes through a big yab. Kronii went through the latter

>>53832266
Expecting /vt/ to watch a clip is expecting too much

>>53828990
This pleases muh dick. I approb.

>>53832253
Fauna. Not a lot of people gave her a chance at first because they thought she was a "generic soft-spoken ASMR girl"

>>53832815
She is exactly that though.

why does this always happen during vespers suspension

>>53832266
>it wasn't erotic
Kronii going full whore "ironically" as a show of disdain toward her coomer fans doens't change the fact she is going full whore now. Starting with the twerking and now other whorish behavior where she is licking yummy cummies.....I mean ice cream for superchats..

>>53830771
Kill yourself TikToddler.

>>53828990
>starts doing fan service after her birthday merch sells like crap
Hmmmm

>>53832837
Be that as it may, she did better in her second year.

>>53832837
And you are a retarded clip watcher. I love ASMR but Fauna is dogshit at it so I watch ASMR elsewhere but on the other hand enjoy watching her gaming streams a lot. You can bullshit yourself all you want, but that doesn't mean that Fauna is not very entertaining.

>>53832999
she deserved it,
with her new fans kek

Kronii is one of them right?

>>53832999
We need EVERYONE to stop buying the damn merch at this rate.

>>53828990

>>53832060
wait, what was the yab?

>>53830903
>Mori and clock start declining
>BRING OUT THE COOOOOOOOOM
At they they recognize they have been hard carried by their coomer model from the start, mori's model is pure sex, shame it got wasted on her

>>53832253
Biggest declines in EN were mori and clock doe
Also both fauna and moom are inclining, despite being considered "bad" at debut

>>53834951
I don't wanna talk about it
Search the archives for Kronii betrayal or backstabbing we went over it several times already

>>53830771
Post it anon or nobody convinced

>>53835632
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rKN5UTcH6RI

>>53829535
you would have to agree that she has warmed up to the idea of using said "sillymaxxing" to bait the simps, if for no other reason than to try to at least maintain the kronii-train. she's knows exactly what she's doing in order to get simp bux, but she's also contributing to the structure of her downfall, which is a slowmotion trainwreck (maybe a bit a faster, depending on how bad the global economy tanks in the coming year). however, i don't believe this is solely a kronii thing, though her situation is made more fragile because of who she is as a person. the rest of EN is overall at a plateau, but it's not necessarily their fault. i would place a large portion of blame on incompetent management, on shore and off shore (but especially on shore).

After seeing Yuko's "little sister blowjob" ASMR, nothing really phases me anymore

>>53835744
Same but Yuko's "lemonade" stand

>>53835744
why do you people keep playing up yuko member streams. they are pretty weak.

>>53828990
I dunno why she's doing this but Kronii has outright become a maniac over the past year.

>>53835854
income goes down
desperation goes up
many such cases

>>53835744
>>53835744
Provide the audio, yukobro

>>53832999
alright kronies new plan

>>53832999
Wait how the hell did her merch bomb?

>>53835994
unless these folks were refreshing the store page until the end of the sell period to see if anything beyond the limited sold, i don't think you should take them too seriously

>>53835994
They’re saying her merch bombed since she didn’t do a limited edition run and the shipping fees on her birthday merch were absolutely retarded: $145 shipping for $95 of merch. But pointing those facts out doesn’t get the same amount of (You)s as blaming it on homos.

>>53836234
Honestly I agree but the shop hasn't blown up shipping for a while now. It was absolutely awful in March-June

>>53835534
so i looked it up, and i remember that moment, and i didn't have the reaction you did. not sure why kronies are calling it yab.
however, that for me indicated, again, that she's an unstable person and that her heart isn't in hololive at all. her heart is in milking the simps as much as possible, but on the way, makes some pretty dumb decisions that will cost her.

>>53828990
SEX

>>53835534
slight addendum: i looked at the real yab, not the "yab" spun by kronies, and it always goes back to the mods. one or two of the mods are far closer to her than they should be, and what surprises me is how kronies do not seem to recognize how bad this is. but oh well, they simps and think with their oui oui

>>53828990
Still not going back. The illusion has been irreversibly broken, there is no going back.

>>53828990
Lacking dose of Vesper's cock really do the toll on her

>>53838299
meds

wheres the yuko blowjob asmr sisters

>>53838299
lol

>>53837467
i assume her mods are her friends since that's pretty common. yeah it sucks in terms of no fan interaction.

>>53828990
PaRaSoCiAlIsM iS bAd. PaNdErInG iS bAd. IdOl CuLtUrE iS eViL. fAnSeRvIcE iS cAnCeR. bUt YoU gO kRoNiI, uS cLoCkSiStErS wIlL aLwAyS bE bEhInD yOu To OwN tHe H473R5

>>53835854
Sooo basically...showing her true colours? She's a megalia supporter FFS. They're all a bunch of mental patients.

>>53838439
Kino for an AI shit, now whose hand is that on Kronii's hip?

>>53838540
ironic because Kronii was arguably the best council member for her holofestival performance.

>>53838869
Kronii's I think, there's no thumb and you can see her elbow angle towards her back. Someone else entirely is holding Vesper's hands.

>>53833074
lol, same here. I'm a diehard sapling and I've been listening to ASMR for over 10 years now, but Fauna's stuff doesn't really do it for me. It's a bit awkward. Wish she could do more roleplay and whispering, all this mic rubbing, water and oil shit doesn't give me anything.

So did anyone actually watch the clip?

>>53837467
eh the mods are an issue but it's really nothing compared to Kronii establishing herself as the one that values honesty above everything else, making promises to her fans, then doing a speedrun to break them, then tell them off for being incels, then doing her best to spite them, then going on her RM account to rant about her own fans from Hololive
She flipped so hard on her established character and broke so much trust in a short span of time that it is amazing she has any fanbase left

>>53834951
In short, her fans didn't like male collabs and told her. She talked it over in a member stream and found a compromise with her fans. The fans were happy for less than 24 hours, when Kronii suddenly changed her mind, tweeted that she'll do whatever she wants and got Cover to tweet about talent freedom, directed at her fans.
Had she either held her promise, or at least talked about it again and explained what was going on before pulling the trigger, she would have been fine. But a decent part of her fanbase felt betrayed. (To be clear, male collabs is one thing, but saying one thing and immediately changing your mind, then essentially calling the cops on someone leaves a poor impression.)

>>53838869
probably the same person holding vesper's left hand

>>53828990
thank g-d

kronii gfe arc

>>53838869
2 people 6 hands
good job AI-kun

>>53839154
Personally, I didn't mind all that until she made that snide tweet and summoned all the alphabet freaks to her defence. It could have been treated and solved as a purely internal affair, yet she chose to air dirty laundry in public. Cue the fags and trannies shitting on le evil idol culture.

The remaining kronies would, of course, claim it was "necessary" because she was being "harassed". Apparently one faggot spamming her chat (konig) and /here/ calling her names are terrible, terrible "harassment".

>>53828990
Readers added context they thought people may want to know:
Kronii was making fun of a form of TikTok brainrot where by TikTok streamers act like an NPC while doing one line reactions every time a user donates for an emoji, similar to superchat stickers.
If you haven't heard of it, than I'm glad for you. TikTok needs a new "tide pod challenge" to cull the herd

>>53839596
Thats even worse!

>>53839161
Magni gave Vesper an upgrade

>>53839045
>>53839154
i agree, but i think it should have been recognized that she is not about honesty at all. a while ago (forget when, first year?) i did a doubletake when she once mentioned that she thought the online medium was a legitimate way to be open. from that alone, her view of communication is distorted. she wants the benefit of simps, but undercuts herself constantly. i would say that her model design actually cripples her, because an avatar who 100% does not look anything like her real self is already a lie. fastforward to today, her relationship to honesty is actually a fascinating one, because one can say that she is being honest now: all the accumulated lies have to be true. so there will be a raving fanbase who gobbles up that truth, while knowing to some degree it is deeply dishonest. but they'll live with it and see how much fun can be had, with whatever time is left for the train. they train themselves to be as honest as kronii, and kronii is quite honest now, as we've seen.
you know, for a warden of time, it's ironic how time itself is ticking on her. her honesty is going to cost her. maybe not in hololive, but in life overall. because it is the honesty that can only exist because she is so deep in dishonesty that she doesn't know a lie from a truth anymore. anyone who's watched her pseudo philosophy stream will understand what i'm getting at.

>>53838997
>bait title and picture
>no one watches clip
>everyone takes bait
This place and reddit are really one and the same

>>53839045
I like how literally none of the things you said happened actually happened.

>>53839596
>bringing tiktok shit into her streams

Up next, maybe she should start pandering to lonely bugmen to boost her income.

>>53839702
Sounds like tempisisters. All updoots, and none watching streams.

>>53839709
so you're saying she's never been about honesty?
well color me shocked, you're right.

>>53839711
>sings nothing but TikTok songs at you

>>53839702
The fact that >>53839596 summed it up is why I don't wanna watch it. I've seen that shit everywhere on Twitter; its outright insane how many people follow that stuff. I know this is the vtuber board, but that many people being into NPC behavior is even more worrying.

>>53839702
Redditors are primarily just clip watchers, this place can’t even manage that.

>>53839804
Don't drag Fauna into this. She's too lovely.

>>53839357
Yeah. It's been interesting watching her in comparison to Bae. Bae made it clear from day 1 what you could expect, and therefore nobody can really cause a fuss about it. With Kronii, things have been far less clear. The debut was amazing but also very pandering, and that disappeared quickly. She can't seem to make up her mind even now. It's confusing. With her new discord friend mod clique, I doubt things will get much better.
It's sad, because Kronii definitely has some very good qualities. (Which is why she still draws viewers.) But it could be so much better. She's the epitome of wasted potential IMO.

>>53839806
Dunno why you people are freaking out about it so much. It's just another dumb zoomer trend, not some insidious psy-op from the illuminati.
Remember how silly some newgrounds animations could be? (Or if you're younger, shit like the ice bucket challenge.)

kronii gfe

>>53839709
I like how you're a mindbroken, delusional kronie. Did she go back in time to wipe all that shit from your memory?

>>53839804
Examples?

>>53839916
>It's just another dumb zoomer trend, not some insidious psy-op from the illuminati.
yes but this is just....strange.

>>53832238
depends if its lubed or unlubed

>>53839830
90% of the posts outside of generals is pure brainless shitposting that's only accentuated by lack of understanding by ESL posters. It's comparable to baby brain meme consumption like this >>53839596

>>53828990
Kronii is a prime example of what's going in the west, poor girl has had her mind poisoned.

https://youtu.be/dP_6_1E3x14
Yeah this is just a shitty clip from a shitty clip channel. This is shit i'd expect from nijiEN and not holoEN.

>>53840067
and I like it

I like how every thread outside of her garbage, hugbox global inevitably turns to shit. Good. There's hope for /here/ yet.

>>53839668
stopped watching once she went full mehera don't know of any new shit, i only like to dunk on her now. i only tolerate her in other collabs.
till she becomes like Mori who is pure unwatchable whatever she is in even with my oshi

>>53839967
Do you remember the badger badger badger animation? Absurdist humor is common, especially for young people. I don't see the big deal personally.
I do agree that it's a bit gross the way it's monetized, but that's just capitalism for you. Kids are always targeted, be it through pokemon cards or virtual stickers.

Let's see the catalogue spin this into something negative

>>53840191
Yeah but Badger Badger Badger wasn't having people donate to the god damn person.

>>53840095

>>53831138
Babiniku is better than woman in ASMR so...

>>53840223
No, I agree that that makes it worse, but the humor itself is comparable.

>>53840282
ehhhhhhh i'd just say the stupid toilet thing is a better comparison. This is like Boxxi or something stupid.

>>53835744
You are small time compared to JP AVtuber ASMR. Westside cannot compete except Riifu.

>>53839950
No, I just know the difference between openly considering potential compromises vs. the "ShE PrOmIsEd uS BuT DiDn'T AcTualLY UsE the P WOrd" narrative shitposters like you have latched yourself onto for almost a whole year now. And people like to memoryhole the fact that stream happened because of some supas she got in the previous stream from complete tourists trying to start shit, so saying she called her own fans incels when they weren't even part of that is just removed from reality as well.

We both know you have jack shit in terms of her saying anything about her HL work on her RM account either.

>>53839190
Thank God.
I can do it if youre not brave enough anon, but this isn't reddit, you can say it here and worst that will happen is some retarded nigger will sperg out about it

>>53839154
Stop talking as if the fans are a monolith. I wanted male collabs and told her emphatically.
The "comprise" was not between her and the fans but between two factions of fans.

>>53840365
It's a Jewish thing, they can't say it because if blasphemy

>>53839916
>The debut was amazing but also very pandering, and that disappeared quickly. She can't seem to make up her mind even now. It's confusing.
The pandering comes and goes she's completely inconsistent on it
She will do entire streams of her acting cute and doing soft-GFE
Then she will go on the next day and fight her chat because they were acting parasocial or whatever
She wants to have it both ways, I mean look at yesterday's D4 stream she was talking about being hot and sweating, she mentioned not wearing clothes and got her chat really excited. Then she ends the game to do a zatsu+supa reading and berates her chat for being pervs and acting weird. Bitch come on have some self-awareness

>>53839357
Idol culture is evil though

>>53840324
>Boxxy
Sure, that's a good comparison. Point is that this type of thing isn't new or unique to this generation. I can relate to feeling a bit out of touch with people who are in their teens right now, but that's natural and always going to be the case. Imagine someone from your grandparents' generation looking at badger badger badger and being horrified at the mental state of youth these days. People will have their fun.

>>53840420
Breaking news: Vtuber is menhera

>>53838323
>>53838323
>>53838323
This. Boobros are lacking today

>>53828990
>Korean woman goes to Japan
>gets "reeducated"
Many such cases.
It does seem like Ina is resistant to the treatments, but I feel she'll fall eventually

>>53840420
debut kroni took SCs to do voice lines

>>53840377
I guarantee that you're in the absolute minority if you actually wanted male collabs. Of course, there are a lot of people who just want to support the streamer no matter what, and they will inevitably go to whichever side the streamer declares a preference for. If they thought Kronii did not want male collabs, they wouldn't want to pressure her.

>>53840469
(you)

>>53840136
every now and then, i watch her until i have to close the tab, because her mode of thinking is actually irritating. even her horni fanbase is intolerable.
she does fare better with other members, generally.
>>53840420
i wish she wouldn't do the whole gfe thing, but it is simply another example of her being honest now. that is why she is utterly blind to the ruin she creates for herself.

>>53840412
>even this
Why is it always jews...

>>53840420
she knows how to play chat

>>53840420
Well, the problem is also that her kayfabe is also being abusive towards chat. It's sometimes hard to tell if she's being serious or not when she's telling people off. (The downside of being a natural comedian.)

Threads where people who discuss Kronii don't actually watch her are always a delight to see when it comes to what bullshit gets made up out of the ether.

>>53840718
They will let her do whatever she wants
She surrounded herself with yesmen that will agree with everything she says even when she's contradicting herself or shits on her own fans for no good reason

>>53840742
it's safe to say that she is serious about manipulation. typical for a modern korean girl

Passive aggressive comments that dont reply to anyone but still addresses them are always a delight to see when it comes to what trivial thing they're assmad about

>>53840673
Same here. I think she's good in collabs because there are other members there to keep her focused. When she's alone (and especially with her new mod squad), she often gets lost in the sauce. She's still funny, but there's a lot of dead air and awkwardness. The yes-men in her audience only make things worse. (Which is again mitigated in collabs.)

>>53831138
It isn't

>>53840626
>>53840377(not him)
It seems like Kronii’s male collabs get a boost in viewership compared to her regular content. I’d just rather vtubers collab with who they like hanging out with since I think the content is better the more the streamer is enjoying themselves, if that means that Kronii wants to do male collabs then thats fine as far as i’m concerned.

>>53840758
>discuss

I'm an ex-kronie and I always find joy in shitting up any and every thread about her. Except for her general, because it's too homosexual there.

>>53828990
She misses Vesper

>>53840787
People surrounded by yes-men always end up getting a harsh, reality check. And by then, it would be too late to redeem themselves.

I can't wait.

>>53840787
such people are the ones shitting up society too.

>>53840986
they always will, but the timeframe varies wildly. some experience it pretty quick, others experience it after a long time.
kronii's situation is fascinating because she's managed to last this long while being so mentally weak and deeply unlikable. but we've already seen that bad people can last a long time in whatever arena.
i personally believe that one of two things will happen to make her fall. it's going to be a self-yab, because she's that unaware of anything beyond 5 seconds in front of her (the irony), or superchats and merch sales dry up.
i actually look forward to how she deals with the latter.

>>53840626
Both the pro and anti male factions were minorities boosted by internet warriors on both sides. The great majority of Kronies didn't care.

>>53840742
No it isn't, the problem is that there are a lot of autists in the vtubing community

>>53838869
Me

>>53841282
I'd imagine she will have a meltdown over her chat/comments one day
She is EXTREMELY bad at handling even small amounts of negativity even if it comes from a point of honest criticism. Her yesmen audience and overactive mods are requirement for her to function as a chuuba
On her RM channel she's written entire essays in the comment section because someone left a mean comment on a million+ view video. It's astonishing how bad she is at ignoring negative remarks

>>53831512
Hello vesper still injured by the bear?

>>53840787
She has never shitted on her own fans.

>>53835487
Fauna is the only one that has gained viewers this year. Kronii peaked in 2021 and the others peaked last year. IRyS is the same as last year.

>>53828990
Should have done that from the start

>>53841391
And yet she flip-flopped and had to get trannies and omegatroon to back her up.

So is she dishonest? Stupid? Hypocritical? All three, perhaps?

>>53841479
ok you don't watch her

>>53841479
Whatever you say, riceronii.

>>53841523
all I see are tits

>>53841523
That's quite an effort you poured into making that image. Colour me impressed.

>>53841469
>On her RM channel she's written entire essays in the comment section because someone left a mean comment on a million+ view video. It's astonishing how bad she is at ignoring negative remarks

It wasn't an entire essay, it was short, it wasn't one person but several that leaved the same comment. Stop lying

>>53841603
It's an old one hat i had saved, probably made in response to how she liked to hide her tits back then

>>53841624
She's done it more than once, which instance are you talking about?

>>53841532
>Flip flopped
It was a complete triviality that trolls coming from this shithole blew out of proportion.

>>53841469
Growing a thick skin is one of the most basic requirements for being a (big) streamer. Hololive is weird in that they get thrown into the realm of having thousands of viewers and comments immediately.
The normal method of growing organically from 2view weeds out the people who can't handle it. Honestly explains a lot of menhera behavior, and not just from Kronii

>>53835854
She's becoming more comfortable and she's worried about her income, because of how many trips she has to take.

>>53841624
>several

Let's assume there were 9 of those people (I'm being generous). Let's also assume that video had exactly 1 million views.

The percentage of "haterz" is 0.0009%. And yet she's so mentally ill, she couldn't ignore them. What's that again about getting out of the kitchen if you couldn't stand the heat?

>>53841640
She has only like 5 videos with more than 1 million, and she only received hate for one of them. I thought it was clear what we were talking about.

>>53837467
/here/ kronies do fancord kronies defend them. Kronii had to address the infighting in her last members stream.

>>53841714
There were more than 9, and you have to take them as a percentage of comments, not views.

>>53841674
Ah yes, it's all about /here/. So it was a "triviality" that somehow blew the fuck up thanks to a few trolls from this board. Yet people like you often say /vt/ is the "extremely negligible minority", but somehow, SOMEHOW, they had the capacity to cause all that shitstorm.

Might want to stop being disingenuous, kronie.

You guys dont waste ant opportunity to insult women do you

>>53841701
desperation is hot, I hope it gets worse

>>53841810
You can play around with the numbers all you like. It will still be a percentage of minuscule proportions. Having a thin skin is unbecoming for a vtuber.

>>53828990
Whore

>>53841469
i can see that possibility, but i think she's built up some level of resistance to feeding into it on a live stream, so she settles for bearing it because monies. her fanbase overall doesn't maintain their distance from her, so they can't see past her honesty. she'll continue to milk them for money, but in the process, she's just feeding into the reality that she's manipulative.
>>53841830
there are plenty of awesome women and many women are amazing. kronii doesn't fit into that.

>>53830903
It’s all a push for when cover finishes their platform. I can see it now a monthly membership you get access to all the girls content and it’s all stuff that would get nuked by YouTube or twitch. Meaning the girls would be able to play uncensored eroges and the like. And with it being run by them they wouldn’t lose that 33% YouTube cut.

>>53841830
I would never waste any opportunity to shit on liars, hypocrites and sycophants, no matter their gender, ethnicity, nationality or religion.

>>53841829
The Kronies that got upset because of the supposed flipflop were a tiny minority. They got boosted here by stars antis.

>>53841942
>Meaning the girls would be able to play uncensored eroges and the like.
I want to see Kanata go all out with her thirst for big tits

>>53841942
one can dream

>>53831604
You are trying to reason with the same kinds of people who regularly doompost about Bae for getting """""only""""" 9k CCV instead of 10k CCV (both numbers put her in the top 0.01% of all content creators on the internet and make her a millionaire). Stop immediately because these losers cannot be reasoned with.

>>53841892
She wasn't s vtuber

>>53841902
Go back

>>53841987
Kanata prefers medium ones.

>>53842003
If every IP that ever posted in a /#/ thread was banned simultaneously, the board would become 100x better over night.

>>53841970
A "tiny minority" that got boosted by...a board of supposedly even "tinier" minority. And somehow they managed to cause a shitstorm that had her hiding behind troons and EN management.

Do you also believe in the Illuminati? You know, how a few can somehow cause huge events?

>>53842129
>people hurt my feelings by talking about the unflattering metrics concerning my oshi. plz ban

>>53828990
when is she doing ERP ASMR

>>53842139
>The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the homobeggar psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an online one. The followers must feel besieged.”
>The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
>Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For homobeggars there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

>>53842220
The amount of garbage falseflag tribalistic number-based shitposting across this hell forsaken catalog is because /#/ is less of a containment and more of a breeding ground. I'm only suggesting it be dealt with the same way you'd deal with a wasp's nest underneath your doorstep.

>>53841282
>deeply unlikeable
Yes her unlikability is the reason most of EN wants her to top them or can't stop gushing about her during group collabs, you've really cracked the code and seen what no one else does with those Mystic Eyes of Schizophrenia of yours.

>>53842139
The anti stars faction is a minority of the vtubing fandom. But the whole vtubing fandom is much larger than the number of Kronies.
A minority of the whole fandom looks large compared to the small Kronii fandom.

Any good NTR mindbreak kronii doujins?

>>53841624
Gow a thicker skin Kronni is for your own good, also don't come here.

>>53842422
>homobeggars are condemned to lose arguments because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

>>53836117
There was a glitch where you could see the sales on the site, it’s been patched but it was posted around for a while with instructions on how to do it, kronii sold worst then everyone (and mori too lmao), of course if you weren’t a newfag, you would know this because it was everywhere

>>53842345
/#/ is a symptom, not the cause. Every industry has its own metrics and the people involved will invariably evaluate and compare them. If this was truly was a problem, there wouldn't be threads about indies and small corpos. At all.

>>53842129
Cheers, I'd drink to seeing that hellhole and anyone who willingly posts in it turned to glass.

>>53841970
Cope, you guys gave them attention and blew it out of proportion. Kronii could've handled it by herself.

>>53828990
When her numbers cratered, she had a change of heart and let go of useless pride. Her job is to please fans and make profits for Cover and now she's doing it better.
I also think it has to do with Kronii figuring out she's not trans and being comfortable as a woman

>>53842420
Time to pull out the clip

>>53842426
There was one with the tags blackmail, drugs, and fat old bastard

>>53828990
She is just embracing her Korean heritage.

>>53842583
No she couldn't
She needed a week off, a trip with Mori, backup from management and a whole team of new mods to handle what could've been a non-issue
She's too fragile to handle these things herself (unfortunately her own approach before getting all this help was much better than what we ended up with)

>>53842525
>Kronii's merch doesn't sell because of insane shipping prices compared to all the other girls this year
Boring
>Kronii's merch doesn't sell because of the homos somehow
All-You-Can-Eat (You) Buffet

>>53842494
What argument? We have won the argument against unicorns a thousand times, it doesn't matter to these "people". They don't go by logic, but by emotion.

The fact of the matter is that they are a lot more militant because they don't have anything else to do.

>>53842607
She better please us all

>>53842422
So you're admitting that this so-called minority is actually a sizeable group? You do know that 49% is still a minority, right? That doesn't make the case any stronger for kronii and her mindbroken fans.

>>53842420
i feel that you know what i'm actually referring to, but are deflecting because you can't stand thinking beyond the surface of what you see. also, from you you said, what you see is basically what you selfishly want.
so how about this? kronii could have been amazing. not only could she have been amazing, she could have been a solid pillar for her genmates too. instead, what did she show herself to be? a liar to herself. but the majority of kronies love that lie. you all are partly responsible for how broken she is. how about you think about that?
>>53842525
sorry, don't have the time to be keeping an eye on everything. but if what you said is true.....dayum.

>>53842682
Explain her genmates selling better then

Kronii got me hornii

>>53842540
Good analysis. More people should understand this about human tendencies that have existed since forever.
It's not much different than filtering other kinds of drivel you will certainly see browsing /vt/ if it really bothers you

>>53842583
She literally made it worse in her attempts to "handle it by herself" so no, she absolutely not could handle it alone and you should have known if you was there when it happened anon.

>>53842682
Excuses, excuses. Somehow, one talent's merch have abnormal shipping rates, versus over 70 of her fellow vtubers.

I'm sure that makes a lot of sense to you. Because you're either parroting a narrative that helps with your bias, or you're off your meds.

>>53842692
>This, however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the fandom. But such a “final solution” implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war. No homobeggar has ever succeeded in solving this predicament.

>>53842771
all of her genmates had limited, signed merch
she did not
weirdly enough the difference in sales revenue matched the value of total limited merch stock
weird coinkydink, I'm sure

Does kronii have the best paizuri in whorolive?

>>53842771
Having limited edition bonuses is a start; they got all the postcard signing done for that during the original trip in Jan which she wasn't a part of and they usually want that shit done months in advance in person because they've run into issues with Myth signing goods remotely in the past.

The shipping for Kronii's merch was an absolute outlier; no one else had to deal a shipping that was far more expensive than the actual merch collection itself either.

>>53842793
The way it plays out /here/ isn't that simple, since you have a limited number of threads that can exist at one time with people hovering page 10. The ones who have the most free time and need the strongest meds dictate what stays on the board for days.

>>53842692
I'm sure you could list down those 1000 instances where you've won. No? Okay, what about 500? Not even that? Aight, I'll accept 50.

What's that? You were just being an exaggerating little bitch and had no substance whatsoever? Oh, I'm sorry.

>>53842422
Their numbers doesn't support your theory. Stars fans (EN,JP) are the tiny minority.

>>53842692
>We have won the argument against unicorns a thousand times
>uhm unicorns bad because le chuds and le incels
>don't be parasocial guys okay?
Yeah good job "winning" those arguments

>>53842860
You can look at the original tweet for her merch announcement and most of the comments are people pointing out how for $95 of merch they were getting slapped with a $145 shipping fee.

The shipping for her merch last year was $20 in comparison.

No straight man watches the homos

It's honestly kind of sad seeing the EN girls who didn't really want to do that kind of content turn out this way. It reminds me of when the NijiEN boys said they were encouraged by staff to say "sussy"(gay) shit on twitter for engagement.

>>53842682
The correct answer is her merch didn't sell because of insane shipping prices, because the merch in question was dogshit a fucking burgerbox and because she lost goodwill with her community and a lot of paypigs left
It's all three working together

>>53842771
Bots

>>53843261
I can agree the merch this year was weaker compared to last year, but it was also cheaper by about $30-40, so it probably would have sold relatively fine if the shipping was more expensive than the merch itself and then some.

>>53843221
Its just a meme

>>53843261
Sensible post, there are always multiple factors at play with this shit

>>53843372
>wasn't more expensive

>>53843221
They chose to be clowns, it's not management's fault they can't disassociate the clown facade from their actual persona

>>53843506
>Clown

>>53844058
I love this response. Thank you

>>53830614
Mori is one of the few holos actually making money out of her music she doeasn't rely on streaming nearly as much as somebody like Krony (she also keeps monetizing her fans on the other side without giving Cover a penny) and she still streams more than clock kek.

>53828990
Yeah yeah, you sure do Cover shill.

>>53842925
She have the best tits for it, but she is lame.

>>53838506
I don't think holos are normally allowed to mod her friends/pre-holo mods this days, that lyger thing with Matsuri seem like an exception that wouldn't be allowed now. I've seen Kroniies bitching about the mods on a regular basis /here/.

>>53844529
The mods are just annoying since a handful of them literally just act like elevated members of chat but she rarely draws attention to them herself; they usually do it to themselves: see the one who banned people they thought were against membership gifting when it was just telling people to not be obnoxious and send in 100 gifts in single packages and she ended up undoing those bans anyways.

You fags are about to reach the bump limit talking about a clip you don't even watch, said clip is about a fucking tiktok meme.

>>53845297
It's even funnier considering the clip itself never got posted.

I'm going to make kronii moanii over my balonii

>>53842607
What the fuck is this retarded rrat

I watched the unarchived member stream back when it was posted a while ago, and I have to say it really does paint Kronii in a bad light. She was very understanding and close to her fans in that one. She read a lot of their comments onstream and addressed them. The whiplash from that stream to what she did immediately after, (tweeting Vesper's boxers, going away and coming back saying she changed her mind and there would be no more discussion on it, and the official message from Cover) definitely would create bad blood.

>>53840742
>a natural comedian

>>53847242
I just dont see why ppl dont get over it. its the internet who cares if she lied it was almost a year ago if u like her streams support her if u dont then dont.

>>53847000
>he doesn't know
Anon the easiest shit to find dude, im not getting a vacation for you.

>>53841987
>>53841995
I will believe until proven otherwise

>>53842681
You're a Kronii anti.

Nobody mentioning that her HoloFes merch also sold the worst where shipping wasn't an issue.

>>53847242
Not all fans

>>53844885
They are elevated chat members. Like two to three of them are her biggest paypigs from when she was an indie.

>>53841942
>I can see it now a monthly membership you get access to all the girls content and it’s all stuff that would get nuked by YouTube or twitch
If this is actually a thing that ever happens they need to bring back the Mel/Choco 1-2 Switch shit where they just acted like they jerking a guy off and begging them to cum the most for them during the cow milking minigame.

>>53837467
>>53838506
There's a few yabs, but the big one that's under the radar is the fact that Kronii's mods were specifically targeting /here/ kronies with shadowbans and doing it without Kronii's knowledge because once she found out, she reversed the bans.
And even after all that, they still threaten to ban people for petty things or as a poorly done joke.

>>53849443
>>53837467
>>53838506
Her mods are shit-tier twitch mods. The shit they spout I'd expect from a greyname.

>>53847454
>dont form opinions and just consoom
>>53849341
>hey youre gonna cum for me right? No shoot more out for me! Dont lie to save her feelings youll let out more for me and we all know it
Its for the best anon, this kind of content can be weaponized and they know it

>>53848111
is it RM stuff?

>>53848111
Well I went to the archive and saw people calling out this rrat as being made up by a depressed russian cuck, so that was easy.

>>53850826
Yes and no
It's related to something from her RM account but anon is overblowing it to make his rrat seem juicier than it is

>>53850941
>made up
It comes from rm streams, unless you want a signed document or something more than that.

Show me that fucking meme if you want me to know what you're talking about, you bunch of retards. I don't use shittok

>>53852620
it was posted in this thread already fucking retard >>53835734

>>53852004
I'm going to be honest, I trust the archive consensus more.

>>53835734
>>53852678
Man i really wish i hadn't seen that, i got a boner. Man fuck you anon.

>>53835734
Why is this hot?

>>53853104
>>53853016
people see it as a dumb tiktok meme now but it originated as fetish content

>>53853321
Damn that's crazy, what type of content.

>>53849341
so it's time for choco domination once again?
>>53843115
so you're telling me current kronies are all broke? roboco's set cost over two hundred dollars after shipping was added but I still bought it

>>53853392
man I don't know
it's something about acting and being treated like an NPC or something. The girl giving preset responses to tiktok superstickers somehow gets people off. I can't explain it any better because this shit is completely beyond my understanding

>>53835734
This has been a terrible week for me

>start watching hand streams
>get boner
>watch Yuko pee stream
>get boner
>watch tgis stupid bullshit
>get boner

>>53835744
buy an ad

>>53841791
That was the whole "please don't attack people who gift memberships" thing, right?
lol, it's funny how this resembles a 2view situation where a tightly-knit community that all know each other and are very protective of the streamer.

>>53842692
>We have won the argument against unicorns a thousand times
lol, do you even listen to yourself? You just declare yourself the winner instead of even entertaining the idea that there might be something more to the situation.
>they're all evil! they just want to hurt my oshi!
You're like a conspiracy theorist mixed with a KPOP stan. The basic fact of the matter is that some fans felt hurt (even if you disagree with them), and it caused an unfortunate situation for all involved. You should be able to admit as much and still cling to your own opinion, but because you're as fragile as your oshi, you need to convince yourself that everyone who disagrees is an anti, a person who cannot be reasoned with, and that you're always won every argument, even when it's just random comments on 4chan. Try to cool down and have a think. You won't.
(The self-projection about being ruled by emotion is palpable, by the way.)

>>53829375
>>53829092
>>53835740

Very Well said

>>53840357
She wasn't "considering potential compromises" you stupid faggot and it wasn't just about angry supas, she said she wants to understand why there is backlash even after she told them how she is not attracted to any of the boooois because they're "not her type" even claimed to laugh at some cuck memes about the situation. Then simps pointed her out to they youtube comment section where she was reading more polite comments and even agreeing with them because she knows that pushing something you have no interest in can be annoying (brought up some KPOP example I have no idea what it was) and promised not to do certain things like streaming her own POV or doing 1 on 1 etc. it wasn't in "maybe I consider that" tone. I was actually rewatching that stream not too long ago so I still remember how it went, she didn't sound nervous at all, everything she said was pretty reasonable she didn't try to antagonize the fanbase in any way, that came later. Really tragic that she decided to go ful retard after her short break, people speculated it's due to Mori offcollabing with her rather unexpectadly and I can honestly see it being a factor, later kson also sperged out about unicorns aka bad weebs right after collabing with lean queen calling simps to drive them out of the fanbase or Vtubing will die in 5 years and shit.

>>53828990
Needy Streamer Overload gave us the blueprint over a year ago, but did any of us pay attention?

>>53835740
Let's face facts, Vtubing will never be a major money maker in the west like it is in the east. Sure it got a massive boost due to the Trump Virus Lockdowns and HoloEN was dealt a royal flush in that regards, but that's long over, and most of the normalfags who watched vtubers then have moved back to their normalfag things.
This is the real reason why Cover hasn't released HoloEN 3, there's just no growth left and any new wave would just cannibalize their existing market. Just look at how Nijisanji has effectively collapsed from ACCELERATION if you need proof for that.

Kronii might have thought she found a new way to milk money from her fans through gift subs, but she's getting played hard since most of the gift memberships are being paid through monopoly money.

>>53854070
It was don't attack each other and gift memberships aren't a problem for me. /here/ kronies are against them so fancord ronies spammed them out of spite (mods gifted them too).

90 ips and almost at bump limit, sad

>>53828990
can someone give me a QRD on the slurp slurp

>>53856050
>>53854070
>>53841791
>>53837467
The reason why gift memberships are cancer is because they hijack the stream where Kronii gets stuck in a perpetual loop thanking the same people over and over, even if the person just gifts a single sub.
It kills the end of her stream where she normally did a short zatsudan and killed any chance of a secret ending.

The obvious solution was just thank each person once, but Kronii somehow misinterpreted the backlash as being against all gift memberships and refused to change everything as opposed to scaling it back a bit as a common sense solution.

>almost 300 posts over a silly meme
All of /vt/ except me are faggots, you don't deserve to be called men.

Reminder that as soon as magni and vesper are back she'll continue to do monthly collabs with them and mori, so whatever momentum she's got going now will be put to a full stop eventually. She always prefers to kill her own momentum for the sake of collabing with them than to keep her solo thing going.

>>53835744
You can't just fucking say

>"little sister blowjob"

And leave us hanging like this.

>>53849278
wait....WUT

>>53859683
Kronii's mods are chosen from her private discord which has her irl friends and past life paypigs in them. The server used to be open to everyone who pays enough before she went corpo but now it's a closed circle Kronii yesmen
Their opinion is literally the only one she cares about, if you are a green name in her chat you're no better than a grey. Blue names are the highest membership tier for her

>>53855573
i completely agree, which is why the fallout when the kronies are without an oshi is going to be quite comedic. she's going to jump ship when, not if, the money runs out.

>>53860021
>which is why the fallout when the kronies are without an oshi
/∞/ has a suicide pact for when the time comes

>>53859912
i knew about the irl friends, which is possibly her top 1 mistake, but the pay pigs......good lord

>>53860112
They are basically friends at this point since they hang out in the same discord and play games together
There was the one time her top twitch paypig popped up on Kronii's stream thanks to the nintendo switch friend X is online notification
The VOD had to be taken down and edited to remove that incident but screenshots are still around, same guy is one of her mods under a different name

>>53857864
i don't think that'll be entirely the case. sure, she would do collabs every now and then, but the current momentum is driven by fear. fear overcomes her laziness, so she'll be willing to bear with the mess she creates, because she has bills to pay and money to....possibly start saving for once.

>>53860357
No way dude
Ever since the Mori corruption Kronii was perfectly happy to tank her own career to spite her gachikoi. She will only stop collabing with them if they graduate and then I'd be worried about her RM doing something stupid

>>53860345
i make a distinction between online and irl, but i get you.
it's just amazing that upper management on the JP side let's the mod thing slide, unless they're out of the loop. there is no good reason for a mod to be that close to the streamer, and it is most certainly breaking some sort of rule on hololive's end.

>>53837467
>>53849443
>>53849795
>mods
>are groomers
typical

>Kronii
>on Twitch
That’s a good chuckle

>>53860730
paint them in a positive light then. but you can't. not with the context being established by kronii her damn self.

>Kronii takes advantage of a TikTok trend because of meme brainrot
>this thread
I know most of you have nothing better to do right now so I would consider doing a flip if I were in your shoes.

>>53860021
If Vesper and Magni get terminated, the Mori Clique in HoloEN is finished. Kronii knows that, which would explain why Kronii collabed with Gura right before Vesper and Magni's stealth suspensions.
Coincidentally, Kronii's mods shadowbanned multiple /here/ronies right before the suspensions were announced. Almost like it was preemptive retaliation since /here/ronies never liked Mori or the Homos.

>>53835905
rest of council need to worry before kronii will even slightly care about her income. she still makes 70% more in supas each stream than the other girls kek

>>53864057
bigger income doesn't really mean much, other than there are many many lonely guys who get off on seeing their SCs acknowledged by her, because oh my god, she's talking to ME.
if you can't see how she actually does need to worry, well i guess you're one of those who gets their news from twitter. but hey, stay comfy in your fantasy...until things come crashing down.

>>53828990
link to this stream? i'm not going to a clip channel

>>53861231
>An unlikable bitch mimics some dumbass trend from a platform infested with morons.

That fact alone is enough to ridicule her. The other half of this thread is tempigs and beta kronies scrambling to defend her, anyway.

>>53828990
god i wanna do non-stop paizuri with kronii while she flicks my nipples, just let her drain the fuck out of me

>>53828990
I swear to god, kronii knows how strong she is, she just doesn't use all her powers just to spite us coomer bros......

>>53832938
It's from Tik Tok you inept monkey.

>>53866271
it's rather sad you're trying to get off on someone's avatar, while she herself has none of that avatar's assets. newsflash, she hates you. but she loves your wallet.

>>53866402
This thread is filled with shitposters who had no intention of spending 3 minutes to watch the clip
>>53839596
No one lurks threads either

>the post is EXTREMELY low quality
>>53866271
i think it ties in with how someone in the thread said something about her training her voice, pretty sure it can be weaponized to hemorrhage anons dicks

>>53866610
no shit sherlock, where the fuck do you think you are? like everyone else, she loves money, but that's cool cause I don't send her money