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what went so incredibly wrong

>> No.53306059

>greynigs got purged
This is a good thing

>> No.53306082

>>53306014
I'd have to say its when your dad never came home with the milk like he promised.

>> No.53306141

>>53306059
Clearly he doesn't see it that way, given that he admits his low numbers are make him depressed and he isn't happy anymore these days.

>> No.53306244

brotuberfags don't give him money

>> No.53306529

>>53306059
He didn't have membership at the time, friend.

>> No.53306576

>only dedicted paypigs are left that are only in it because sunk cost fallacy
Looks like NijiCN didn't do as expected

>> No.53306602

>>53306014
>Full grey->full green
What's the problem here then?

>> No.53306648

Grey names are almost a thing of the past ever since Susan's introduction of Membership welfare.

>> No.53306814

>>53306014
>Guys giving him a chance at the beginning and wanting to engage with a cool dude
Vs
>Girls who aren't really invested, just there to see their oomfie and secretly hope he'll stop playing games so that he'll pay attention to being their whore again

>> No.53307065

>>53306814
(OP) I'm still on the stream and chat completely derailed just because a paypig sc'd that it was their birthday. could have at the very least timed it to in between matches, but nah, they decide to do it mid-match. kindreds live in their own little world and pay very little attention to their own streamer.

>> No.53307140
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53307140

>2k is bad now

>> No.53307211

>>53307140
What is it, like 10% of his original audience? Gotta send my thanks to Reimu for fucking his career

>> No.53307337
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>>53307140
Cope

>> No.53307552

>>53307140
>/#/ out of nowhere
go back

>> No.53307739

>>53306014
women don't understand video game

>> No.53308151

>>53307337
5 indonesian viewers are clearly just worth 1 chinese viewer anon, you don't understand the nijizhangi master plan.

>> No.53308198

>>53307140
yes?

>> No.53308264
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>>53308151
You mean this master plan?

>> No.53308562

>>53306014
>google Vox Akuma
>it's a male
He should become a fleshtuber.

>> No.53311505

>>53306014
I warned you about going into china nijibros

>> No.53312321

>>53306814
How ironic. It's also his fault dudes will never give any male vtuber a chance

>> No.53312576

>>53307140
according to me? no lol
according to him? rope-around-neck tier

>> No.53313514

>>53307065
I know it's hard to read chat while completely ignoring stuff like that, but Vox probably could have ignored it better than he did, if his response really derailed the match.

>> No.53313609

>>53307140
Considering what he used to get it kinda is

>> No.53313828
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53313828

>Koshien continues to take the trophy away from Holos
>Number monkeys shit out yet another paint by the numbers, shitty number thread attacking Vox
You kids are so predictable.

>> No.53313898

>>53306141
The only reason he got popular is because he is no different than a male prostitute.
No one cares about him beyond that.

He just doesn't want to accept it.

>> No.53314009

>>53306014
You took probably the most tame screenshot of Vox's chat I've seen on this board.

>> No.53314388

>>53313828
this is not a /#/ thread, dumbass.
It's literally pointing out how Vox's chat changed from mildly engaged mixed audience to the now chink infested swamp

>> No.53314479

>>53306141
>depressed
What a fucking fag. Literally the top male vtuber ever and he blew it all away because of shame.
When projekt melody exists, he really should've taken a lesson from her and wrangled learned how to grow a nice audience, but no... why are male vtubers such dumb menheras. Makes me embarrassed to be a man.

>> No.53314713

>>53307140
From where he was it sure fucking is.

>> No.53314720

>>53314479
It wasn't shame, if he would have his way he'd still be acting like a manwhore to his chinks.
He was pressured by his co-workers and very likely by management to handle the case of Reimu's harassment since it was coming from his fanbase, so he was forced to "disavow" parasocialism and tell them they're not friends.
The moment he noticed his numbers falling off a cliff because of that, he BEGGED for them to stay saying he actually enjoys the parasocialism and blablabla. But it was too late.
Then the second impact event was when he got doxxed and was shown to have a gf which turned the remaining chink horde away from him. Again those things were just out of his control, he is just coping now with the whole "new me" bullshit.

>> No.53314762

>>53313828
>requires a company wide baseball tournament just to compete
Look what it takes for them to match even a fraction of our numbers!

>> No.53314800

>>53313828
Koshien always does well, it's one of the few things the company has that does well. The thing is outside of that or a few select talents, the audience just doesn't give two shits about Nijisanji, since its mostly comprised of normalfags.

>> No.53314831

>>53308562
Yeah...who knows maybe he would have more viewers on his own...

>> No.53314841

>>53314479
Except the top male vtuber is the jp members in his company

>> No.53314980

>>53314720
Okay, that's more reasonable, but the point about wrangling your audience still stays. Wipped manwhore can't even manhandle some dumb women

>>53314841
You can tell how much I watch male vtubers.

>> No.53315312

>>53308151
Then why did he get depressed while Kobo is indifferent even though her viewers also in decline?

>> No.53315329

>>53315312
retard >>53307337

>> No.53315411

>>53306014
Right looks like a stars chat, slow and emote spam

>> No.53315453

>>53306014
What am I supposed to be seeing? He opened memberships?

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>>53313828

>> No.53315752

>>53306014
To be fair to him, the very few times I've been in Vox's chat in recent months made me depressed as well. I'd fucking hate my job too if every time I wanted to engage with my chat I'd only see shit like the second chat screenshot. Nothing but chinese women who can barely speak english and are only spamming emotes or repeat what I say to communicate.
I know I would much rather have a small fanbase that I could interact and have a conversation with instead of a huge fanbase who donated a ton but was virtually deaf and mute.
The dude's in a hole he dug mostly for himself, and by making the type of content he did to get his toxic audience to throw money at him, he really fucked over the branch forever. It must suck to be in his position, but I can't feel too bad for him because of this.

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>>53307140
Reminder that he once restarted and eventually cancelled a stream just because his "wifi issues" / lag made him dropped from 14k to 4k temporarily. That happened only roughly a year ago.
Going by that (his own) standards, yeah, 2k is horrible

>> No.53315969

>>53315453
leave it to a sister to be unable to tell the difference between an engaged and unengaged live chat

>> No.53315986

>>53315453
>Left: people communicated and talked about the stream properly
>Right: emoji spams and monotone messages
Sure, with membership opened, there would inevitably be a lot of emoji spams. His fans could've afforded to send more text messages than just "OHHHH" and "GANBAN", though

>> No.53316170

>>53315752
ITT: Not a single person that watches Vox
Vox literally said that he felt "love and connection" because his chat would spam heart emojis, he has this kind of chat, because that's what he wanted

>> No.53316245

>>53316170
Why has he been depressed AF, then?

>> No.53316309

>>53315969
>>53315986
Emotes?! How horrible!

>> No.53316382

Wait are there people on this board who unironically watch this slimey faggot? How? What the fuck happened to this place?

>> No.53316405

I don't watch him but, wouldn't doing bfe hard again fix his numbers issue?

>> No.53316454

>>53316245
He has been "depressed" ever since the AR live was cancelled, but he is also a gigantic pussy that is stuck between a menhera cycle of failing to take meds for his insecurity/ADHD issues and his impostor syndrome.

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>>53307337

>> No.53316533

>>53316170
It's really easy to say things you don't mean to look good. That love and connection he was feeling? Money. He's depressed now because he has a shit community he cannot interact with because no one wants to or can, and he's getting less money from them to boot.

>> No.53316563

>>53315667
kek

>> No.53317032

how much until he starts leaning toward hardcore bfe again out of despair?

>> No.53317063

>>53316533
>to look good
nah, nigger you have no idea what you're talking about, especially given the context of the stream he said that. Vox is a male EN Rushia, I don't know how else to tell you, but the cringe spam emojis are probably the only reason keeping him on nijiEN atm.

>> No.53318974

>>53306014
This is actually a perfect comparison for an indie vtuber's chat and a corpo vtuber's chat

>> No.53319145

there's not a single girl in nijien or holoen whose chat gets this bad, impressive

>> No.53321106

>>53319145
because female chuubas often operate on their audience's lane; they play games/engage in activities that their mostly male audience generally likes. so they're always engaged in the live chat.
Vox, by playing Fromsoft games and being hardcore about Smash, is operating outside of his audience's interests (underage sisters) and thus gets lukewarm reception everytime he does anything genuinely impressive. Almost beating Sekiro with no deaths? That's cool. To a sister? boring as fuck, get on with the rape asmr.

>> No.53321636

>>53306141
If he learned to appreciate what he has some of those viewers might actually return. Viewership has fallen dramatically but he's hardly a small streamer, but he just bitches about it all the time. With a lot of the chinese fujos gone he might have the opportunity to grow a less awful audience, but he needs to stop self sabotaging.

>> No.53322237

>>53321636
I think part of the reasons why he's menhera is because unlike most of NijiEN, he like the rest of Luxiem had a ton of subs and cash just handed to them just for being part of the first male wave. Granted he's also entertaining in his own right, but management blew tons of smoke up into head telling he's a "top dog" - which he was and arguably still is in the EN scene. But it's obviously going to mess anyone when they start at the top and then the entertainment business just does what it does worst.
Its not helped either with NijiEN being in the state its in. Morale is probably at its lowest due to some talents being bigger problems than Luxiem ever was, fans leaving, and management being black company-tier. If NijiEN well and truly had a better support network among the talents, I dont think he would be as depressed as he is.

>> No.53322981

>>53313828
>talk about a trophy
>accuse others of being number monkeys

>> No.53323457

>>53322237
>>53321636
It's probably pressure from management. Between Luxiem being their golden wave falling from grace and the rest of the branch looking pretty grim, management is probably livid.

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>>53323457
I wonder what's the common denominator to all of these vtubers losing morale?

>> No.53324954

>>53306014
>watching faggots in 2023
>watching faggots in 2021
>watching faggots ever

kill yourself

>> No.53329321

Looks just like Gura's chat.

>> No.53330384

>>53323694
Even with management's ineptitude, it doesn't help that the way Anycolor is designed it sort of encourages internal strife. New waves usually only have 6 months or so of relevancy at best before they get shoved to the side. And you can usually expect some old talents like Pomu to feel threatened whenever a wave of new girls show up since it can also mean that some of their fans get stolen away.
I guess the Pomu situation can just be waved off as "jokes" granted, but it feels like its been happening too long to be a joke at this point.

>> No.53330944

>>53306141
Nah, he unironically got popular as the wittiest and most mature seeming out of his entire gen, then started to go off the deep end with fujo pandering to pay rent with his 2%. His carreer has just been sad.

>> No.53332258

>>53317032
Once he hits 1k

>> No.53332772

In 2021 NijiEN actually had a lot of male western fans. Hence the informative intelligible posts.
Then 18 months past, and largely due to the actions of Vox and his compadres, these fans all vanished. Replaced with the emote-spamming Chinese and SEA women who barely even understand english.

>> No.53333502

>>53317063
>Vox is a male EN Rushia
This... isn't really a good thing in this context, anon, especially considering the abandonment issues she had...

>> No.53333737

Week 1 Luxiem was actually fun and close to what people who talk about brotubers would want. Vox's Smash autism, Luca running into a shiny Bidoof before even getting any pokeballs, Mysta being an unintentionally charismatic eccentric dumbass like a British version of Cory Spazkid (can't speak for Ike and Shu since they were boring). Then everything changed when they got a whiff of the underage Chinese yume/fujo audience. The whole scene is going to need an overhaul at this point for a male vtuber to get a sizable male audience.

>> No.53336641

>>53307140
Cope

>> No.53338532

>>53313828
>a thread about what went so wrong with vox's chat
>nijikek brings up numbers out of nowhere and talks about trophies that only the /#/ cares about
For someone who tries to shit on numbers and the /#/ thread you sure seem obsessed with numbers. Go back to your schizo central that is the /#/ thread faggot and then kys.

>> No.53338903

>>53313828
Nijiseethe

>> No.53339190

>>53333737
So basically they were THIS close to replicating their male streamers' successes back in Japan and male chuuba scene could've been like Japan?
God damn >we lost so much kino potential

>> No.53339334

>>53313828
Nijisanji
>Koshien!
Holo
>The entire season of a baseball league
>The entire year of a racing event
>Nissin Instant Noodle partnership
>Universal Music collab
>EMI music collab

You sayin?

>> No.53339384

>>53314479
>Learning from Project Melody
Anon, he's a normie. I don't think he even heard of Project Melody

>> No.53339467

>>53314720
I think the final nail in the coffin was when he start whining about losing audience and even had to go to a doctor only to be told "You're fine, it's just in your mind" pretty much turning him into Prince Harry of Vtubing community.

>> No.53339629

>>53315875
>Still using Wifi
>Total normie confirmed.

>> No.53341120

>Yeah, council didn’t do as well as they expected

>> No.53346528

>>53341120
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>> No.53346590

>>53315875
>bots crashed
>is depressed about it

>> No.53346829

>>53314479
>iterally the top male vtuber ever
even shoto has better numbers than him.
he used to compete with nijiJP and dropped to holoID tier.
>When projekt melody exists
she is a whore that makes most of her dosh form ctb he cant do that on a corpo.

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>>53307140
He used to regularly pull 10k+ so yes. And he clearly thinks it is because every second week he’s having some menhera rant about his numbers.

>> No.53347261

>>53314720
Didn’t he literally the next day flip flop into oh i care about you guys so much we have a special bond i love you

>> No.53347411

>>53306059
>Luxiem debuted at the end of december
they didn't have membership yet retarded anon

>> No.53347425

>>53339190
You mean like Kuzuha who has a whole fujobaiting pairing with Kanae?

>> No.53348057

>>53316309
This but unironically,
shit got so bad to some males they have a limit on their rules
From this exact Vox smash bros stream rules
>F. Use emotes in chat as often as you like, but keep a limit of three per message.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu36rvhL3s8

These women have nothing to talk about in game streams but they can't resist not saying shit, their need to made clear they are there and existing is hilarious, even when leaving these chinks leave a message to make sure their oshi know

>> No.53351715

>>53348057
Meanwhile at TWITCH.........

>> No.53351896

>>53306014
Interesting to consider what male vtubers image would be like to day if he didn't sell out. Now they all fujobait, virtue signal and act like sissies

>> No.53352475

>>53306014
Pretending he was something he was not. It's as simple as that.

>> No.53352547

>>53306014
I will try to find a cute gf on Vox stream

>> No.53355314

>>53339190
What sucks is they tried AGAIN with the gamer wave, but the leak situation and them picking Shoto clones screwed the whole thing up. One of the choices that quit was genuinely been incapable of appealing to women.

>> No.53357783

>>53306014
>Genesis 2:22
>And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

>> No.53359654

>>53355314
Which was the choice that quit? The league player? I've wondered since the possible leak, was there any documentation of what he did that was so creepy before he almost went eith niji? I'm genuinely curious why that was the consensus before he almost debuted.

>> No.53360793

Vox fucked up royally by pandering to the worst groups imaginable where women are considered. He has doomed not only himself, but the future of his branch. Be sure to thank him when the time comes that NijiEN spirals into oblivion.

>> No.53362144

>>53360793
All EN males too. They followed his example as "the way a male vtuber can succeed" and it poisoned the entire well.

>> No.53362356

>>53330944
Wittiest? Maybe. Most mature? Hell no, it's Ike. Ike isn't exactly the amazing entertainer but he might be the most professional in all of NijiEN. No yabs, no leaks, not even swearing except some collabs, no pandering, zero drama and zero negative communications with his coworkers. Besides, he loves vtubers, anime and JP culture in general, is knowledgeable about JP senpais and despite being bland to most people managed to cultivate a dedicated and well-behaved fanbase. The only things that are remotely close to "yabs" that he had are one of those cryptic tweets after AR concert cancellation and one time when his mental went boom, he went on a break and posted a long tweet about it afterwards.

>> No.53363044

>reading chat
tell me you guys don't do this

>> No.53363164

>>53306014
>people cheering with words before membership
>people cheering with emotes after membership
If you were trying to show his chat declining in quality or something you could do a hell lot worse

>> No.53363637

>>53362144
I suspect that the management that told them to follow that guideline.
"Pander pander pander. Keep pandering and lust bait them. We need to keep the fujo money flowing in or Riku will not going to get another yacht this year!"

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