/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53168909
Axel deserves better bros. I'm applying to Holostars so I can be his bud

>Company consists of 80% women
>It is the men who are the menhera
Beyond baffling.

>>53168909
I think it is just contract renewal time and those two are playing hardball. Cover can't decide yet whether to agree to their demands or not. I think this is a strike

>>53168909
transfer axel to starsJP and terminate everyone else

He might be dumb and boring but he deserves better bros.

Axel can pass as a StarsJP that knows english.

>>53169020
>baffling
Not really. Imagine how menhera a man must be to want to become a vtuber.

Wait I thought we all knew Axel was the bad one cause le heckin numberbegging

>>53169076
Are you telling me Cover agreed to give Vesper a new model before renewing his contract? Damn, they are retarded then

Seeing how much Tempus struggles these days after their fans incessantly shit on Nijimales in favor of muh brotubers fills me with childlike glee.

>>53168909
I am a huge unicorn so I shouldn’t care about tempus, but it is always a shame when hard workers are kept down by incompetent or lazy coworkers, regardless of branch

>>53168909
>Leaking members posts

>>53169013
Axel deserves a sudden graduation is what he deserves. Like the poorfag beggar that he is.

>>53169076
Homos don't have enough leverage to go on strike due to their incredible lack of popularity. Also I'm pretty sure the Japanese reaction to a strike would be "fuck you sayonara". They probably got suspended or better yet they're gone.

>>53169020
Its almost like men are more emotional than women by nature and have bigger problems controlling their feelings!

>>53170031
Men mald, while women seeth

>>53169376
ENshit is not worth gatekeeping

>>53168909
What the fuck dude

>>53169574
>poorfag beggar
He got a PS5 already like two weeks ago...

>>53170031
>men are better than women at everything

>>53169309
Trannysanji is collapsing for different reasons.

>>53170270
Didn't he literally beg for money to get that?

>>53169309
So true sis! Fuck em ugly ass models!

>>53169376
This fucktard bought lmao
This isn't your hugspace, fuck off back to Twitter.
https://files.catbox.moe/oau6h1.webm

>>53169254
Yeah I would expect the new model for Vesper and the upgrade for Magni (wasn't it actually a new model on the rigging side?) would only come after contract agreements
It's a lot of cash and time to spend.

Still what the fuck is going on here. Wait didn't one of them post something about monday on their RM account?

>>53170382
If you watched his stream, he didn't really beg but if you wanna go with your narrative then go for it. Why should I believe a faggot from this board anyway?>>53170331

>>53170528
What "ugly models"? You "fixed" them, remember? Barahomochads ftw!

I know there's a happening, but would it be a safe bet to sort Flayon's VODs by popular and going from there if I wanted to get into his streams?
Not that my old oshi matters but I used to be a sanallite and the other girls' streams don't interest me anymore
I have an indie oshi (female) now but I kinda wanna get back into holopro

Thought I was posting in /mans/
FUCK

>>53170764
If you unironically mean well, ask /MANS/, they know what streams to watch when getting into it

>>53170816
>>53170846
Well there's my answer kek

>>53170764
Nah just watch current streams

>>53169020
They increase their menhara in fear of getting metoo'd off the internet

>>53170031
tempiss aren't men they are sissy boys

So what's our most believable rrat?

>>53168909
That means the current suspensions are 2 weeks minimum right? Good.

>>53171067
They spit roasted me last night making my body all sore. They'll come back once I feel okay

>>53171067
Most plausible?
Contract negotiation time is here and the two "stars" of Tempus are trying to play hardball. Cover is running damage control while discussions continue.

Least plausible?
Gura has played 69D chess every since Tempus launched to get them shut down and this is the opening salvo in a stars holocaust

>>53171258
Magni maybe, but I find it incredibly hard to believe Vesper, whose entire initial appeal was his sincere joy at just being in Holostars, would lowball over money. Especially when he makes stupid fucking purchases like a spear and speargun, that is not the behavior of one who is financially disabled

>>53171404
He was some kinda IT department office worker in his past. He's used to contract negotiation bullshit.
And he's impulsive enough to play hardball.

Consider his streaming pre-holo
He went into it with a clear plan to get into holo and spent a considerable amount of cash pulling it off.

>>53171258
>Contract negotiation time is here
That was months ago. Contracts are running out at the end of this month, they should already have settled any disputes and decided whether they want to extend them or not

>anniversary coming up
>wording doesn't mention suspensions
They're obviously in negotiations for better contracts. Cover has a bit of sunk-cost fallacy here since they just updated their models.
Everyone knows the end result though. They're not gonna see an incline, Vesper is gonna continue to bw combative with management. It would be quite tough to cut them away, sacrifice the sunk-cost and half the HolostarsEN branch. It would essentially leave a stamp on Holostars as a failure.

>>53171729
>Contracts are running out at the end of this month, they should already have settled any disputes and decided whether they want to extend them or not
Why do you think they're soft suspending them lol
Obviously the negotiations never came through, and they're up against a deadline

>>53171046

>>53171729
They could have dragged it out
But personally I feel the most likely reason is they attended AX and caught something serious

>>53171558
Still seems stupid then if he spent so much to get into Holo just to complain

>>53169254
Well it's not like Vshojo where they leave and keep the persona/new models. Vesper is holo property.

>>53170641
Iirc according to Vesper they started working on the models a few months after debut.

>>53171918
He's probably already made back the investment and can drag a lot of that Vesper viewership back to his old account.

>>53171999
Fucking hell. Cover moves at a glacial pace.

>>53171816
If they’re locked out of all their accounts it means that they’re technically not even with the company anymore.

>>53170641
"Give us updates or we won't resign our contracts"
gets updates
"Give us better terms or we walk and you would have wasted the updates"

>>53169309
Tempiss sisters we got too cocky...

>>53172148
StarsJP were being told that they’re getting less support earlier in the year if they don’t improve their metrics iirc (sub count specifically).

>>53169020
Says a lot about men

>>53169020
Yeah no shit. There's a reason virtually all mass murderers are men and its sure as shit not because men are on average more mentally stable.

>>53171816
>>53172093
Minor but important distinction: if the boys are striking that is fine, but if Cover locked them out of their accounts or is hampering their ability to do their jobs in order to apply pressure during negotiations then it is constructive dismissal. Japan loves that shit, but it is illegal to do it to an American employee.

>>53172439
Women don't have the strength to kill people, including the physical strength to hold a gun and pull the trigger.

>>53173095
The contracts will likely be subject to nip employment law.
Since when hiring an international employee for remote work (like this) you need to define in the contract which nations employment law is relevant, its typically the employers

>>53170031
>men are more emotional than women

>>53169254
Models take a long time to make and rig. It could just be that timing worked out this way.

Is he the most cursed vtuber artist?

>>53169020
Like all things, men are better than women at being mentally unstable.

>>53168909
no it's all altare's fault but he's abusing his position, same as he always has

>>53169309
Are you a lazulight holofag? A lucub? Why are you always using Sonny for these baits when he's the most uncontroversial (boring) male EN liver there is

>>53173558
It's not women who are always seething and moaning all day about vtubers of the same sex.

>>53174723
Anon they do that shit with real men and women irl all the time.
Truly only retards /here/ could try to invert the century known reality that women are more emotional and irrational than men. Have you SPOKEN to a woman? Do you have a mother?

Pako's gotta be the most cursed artist in Haololive at this point. Imagine Vesper quitting or gettng fired less than a month after your new model comes.

>>53174900
Don’t forget he started enjoying Zaion a week before she got fired.

>>53174723
they seethe and whine about "pickmes"

>>53169020
What kind of deflection is this? Did we forget Aloe and Rushia all of a sudden? If they didn't go menhera they'd still be here like Towa.

>>53173095
>employee
Holos and stars are all just contractors

>>53175160
Why are you bringing up Aloe as if she graduated due to being a menhera? Fucking newfag

>>53175341
Don't call me a newfag if you don't know what it means. Aloe could've simply stayed put but she couldn't take the heat and decided to get out on her own.

He should do more collab with Zeta because these are the only moments when he is relevant.

>>53175491
Retard, Aloe graduated because she was geting death threats from nijiniggers after being doxed, don't bring her up in unrelated threads

>>53175598
I don't think Kobo is saviorfagging Stars but she's the one making them relevant with her Valorant antics

>>53175615
Stop caping for a graduated talent, she won't suck your dick. Coco held on much longer and Haachama never left despite getting worse shit from worse faggots. She had a menhera episode and got out, that's all there is to it. Nothing more nothing less.

>>53174890
I mean, insulting your own parents to win an internet argument is exactly the kind of thing a man in his chronic testosterone-poisoning and lack of forethought would think is a winning move and post it with cruise control for cool on. Women, generally speaking, have more class than that.

>>53175890
You're just baiting at this point.
Have a (You)

>>53175747
>Getting realistic death threats
>Having a menhera breakdown
Checks out

>>53169013
I'll never forgive him for what he did to Nodoka. Where the fuck is she?

>>53176143
Still waiting for that Haachama breakdown. It's more like being menhera has nothing to do with sex and has everything to do with upbringing.

>>53173095
>it is illegal to do it to an American employee.
Wait, this has never happened to me so I have no clue, but... it is? I don't mean constructive dismissal in general, but how you do it.
AFAIK, the corpo need to pressure the employee to quit before terminating their contracts for that to be considered constructive dismissal. Putting an employee's work on hold while renegotiating contracts or while said employee is deciding whether he'd like to get a new contract shouldn't fall into that category (even more so if the previous contract expired while they were in process of negotiation)

>>53176517
>It's more like being menhera has nothing to do with sex and has everything to do with upbringing.
We can't let him live, he cracked the code
No shit, Sherlock

>>53176689
So what are you hustling me for?

>>53174723
that's because you only visit this place, go to that dox site, Nijimale comment section, that part of the site is filled with women and 10 times more vile

>>53169013
every holostar deserves the rope with no exceptions, i'm glad that magni and vesper got suspended, and that it fucked wit everyone else's plans, it's like the cherry on top

>>53169020
Incredible bait, not only can I not tell how serious this is, I can't tell how serious most of the replies are.

>>53169020
Same thing in NijiEN too to be honest. Before there were males there was no drama. Nowadays it's the males that are having mental breakdowns every other week and have to go on extended breaks for their mental health all the time. When AR live got cancelled it was Shu someone who's never even released a cover and avoids doing karaoke like the plague that had a mental breakdown about it while the girls who have been making music for decades and regularly do music in NijiEN kept their heads. The girls just keep on chugging along while males fuck up at every turn.

>>53174723
>he doesn't know

>>53171920
Sure Cover keeps all the rights but once they graduate it's pretty much a completely dead character/model anyway. When's the last time anything Coco, Rushia, or Sana related was released? They have full rights to pump out merch, promotional videos, whatever the fuck they want using their characters/models, but yet they just don't and instead prefer to literally erase them from history.

>>53169020
Both of them are legitimately mentally ill in some way, please understand.

>>53169020
>Conflict averse gender avoids conflict
Wow

>>53177256
>t. cuckbeat

>>53169020
Office politics are better played by women, and this is all office politics.

>>53169020
Says a lot about Holostar EN fans.

>>53169020
NijiEN is like this too

>>53177380
>no drama before males
holy newfag

>>53169309
I'll let you in on a hint, when you see Tempiss fans shitting on Nijis, it's mostly done as a pathetic attempt at ingratiating themselves with the larger general Hololive(girls) fanbase, i.e. "s-see, we t-totally hate the other company you hate too, w-we're on the same side b-bros, now uuh could you please stop shitting on us and maybe watch our bois too?".. actual Hololive fans: "lol no fag kys".

>>53172246
They unironically can't get more subs because of the male debuff. It doesn't matter how much better vesper and magni are compared to the girls.

>>53171404
Poor people are poor because they make stupid fucking purchases.

>>53171067
Covid

>>53169309
>even sisters saw through the brotuber facade
kind of crazy what mob mentality will lead people to believe

>>53171067
They think their contract should be better than the lazy talents. That's 100% the reason and they're right, they put in more work and should get a higher % of revenue share than people that stream once a week at most.

>>53169020
you do realize they are all homosexuals right? homos are by definition menhera so it should be no surprise really.

>>53181170
vesper and magni are arguably the least homosexual ones

>>53173558
Yup. Just check the crime stats.

>>53180534
I’m aware of that but Cover has been using subs as a metric of success and already used YoY sub growth for Tempus last fiscal year so they need to pump it even more this year for investors.

>>53171067

it's contract related, they likely cannot stream "legally" using those assets until contracts are signed. Since it's Japan, the process is extremely convoluted and backwards.

the likely answer is it was filed incorrectly and there's a mandatory waiting period since they're foreign employees / contractors.

my firm usually sets aside an extra 2 months for contracts dealing with jpn/kr specifically for this reason.

>>53169076
>I think it is just contract renewal time and those two are playing hardball. Cover can't decide yet whether to agree to their demands or not.
Tempus got the 2 quickest non-political redesigns in the history of holoPro. Vesper and Magni don't seem to mind negotiations but why do it now? They are only a few weeks away from their 1st anniversary.

>>53181214
crime statistics based on sex :I
crime statistics based on race :0

>>53181208
>Magni
>Vesper
>least homo
When Axel is right there constantly fucking up and liking lewd cosplay pics on his work account.

>>53181364
>Just give us what we want manager-san, it’d look bad if we don’t show up at the anniversary wouldn’t it?

>>53181471
Based
Also it would not surprise me if that ended up being the angle that Gura took and that was why she didnt stream for months.

>>53180398
There literally wasn't.

>>53177380
>Nowadays it's the males that are having mental breakdowns every other week and have to go on extended breaks for their mental health all the time
Can you blame them?

>>53180475
lmfao how fuckin stupid can you be to think anyone actually gives a shit

>>53172093
vesper said he was locked out but then it got resolved when he did his WoW stream, lmao.

It's like they're all Rushia without the talent, likeability, or being cute.

>>53168909
HQ collab?
Whats that? Spoonfeed me please

>>53171135
Hi Yagoo

>>53181127
>they're right, they put in more work and should get a higher % of revenue share than people that stream once a week at most.
I mean you aren't wrong, but streaming isn't exactly "work", especially not compared to something like making videos in terms of online content creation. Plus even if they stream more, it's doubtful that they make enough money compared to HoloEN to really justify it. They're HoloStars, they don't have a leg to stand on compared to something like HoloLive.
In the grand scheme of things, they're far more disposable.

>>53180029
They love Holostars though, A friend of Mori's is a friend of theirs

>>53169076
Ok, this makes the most sense to me.