/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52905751
Zero people anon and if there is people like that then they are beyond retarded and schizo, they've just lost contact with reality at that point

>>52905751
What happened to the hotub meta that a chuuba displaced them?

>>52905751
what is that clickbait pic?

>>52905751
is she actually sick? yes.
is it as serious as she claim? no.

>>52906442
it's very serious. Now that she have the money it don't like much.

I've only watched like 45 seconds of her content since she debuted. Doesn't she have aids? The only bit of her stream I've seen was the time her stream bought her a hospital bed and she was happy because she is unable to not cosplay as the Emperor of Man on the Golden Thrown. She cried and everyone was happy for her. When was aids THAT debilitating, though? I thought we solved this problem, medically, in like 2007.

>>52905751
100%. The longest vtuber con so far.

>>52906625
It's not AIDS, though what it is is also an autoimmune disorder. AIDS might actually be better; at least there's treatment for AIDS. Mouse just seems kinda fucked if she can't get regular plasma transfusions.

>>52905751
Anon, schizos on here will actively believe bullshit easily disproved in five seconds if it lets them seethe.

>>52906625
How did you manage to watch those in 45 sec?

>>52906442
>is it as serious as she claim? no.
Highly discussable, as her disorder is not the main source of her problems, is the things that come with it. So if she gets a mild infection or bacteria, and it doesn't get treated properly, then she could potentially get on a worse condition that someone who has an active and healthy autoimmune system, or even die in the worst cases. In this case, for what she has said, it's mainly something in her lungs, which is the most common place to get infected with bacteria.

So it all comes down to paying for her life, in this case treatment.
>>52906182
Still alive, but it isn't what it was used to be, same with vtubers really.

>>52905751
i think a good reason as to why she actually is sick is the ungodly amount of models she seems to comission. even money makers in hololive dont seem to have as many alts as her, and her alts are even drawn by different artists. her spending that money indicates she cant really spend it on otherwise normal expenses since shes kinda stuck in her room no? or am i dum

>>52907569
>discussable

>>52905751
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>>52907603
She is a lying whore and you are retards for believing her.

>>52905751
>on a platform known for scammers
>conveniently a vtuber so she cant post proof because "dox"
>is in a company known to house chronic liars
You would have to be a idiot to believe anything anyone in vshojo says

>>52907963
This, these retards have completely fallen for it, i bet they also think zentreya is a girl

>>52907963
>>52908232
Gotta try harder than that buddy

>>52905751
Holofriends, who make up the majority of this board, assume she's faking it because Holo girls are constantly faking illnesses and injuries to get out of streaming. They're wrong in this case, but it's understandable why they think Mouse is faking being sick as well.

>>52908906
rent free, literally no one mentioned Holo. keep believing your lying whore.

>>52909287
Not an argument.

>>52909381
Neither is whataboutism

>>52909381
Not an illness.

>>52906625
I thought it was COVID

>>52909501
CVID is an illness actually.

>>52908092
Most lies from VShojo are relatively easy to disprove, while Mouse's illness hasn't had any real evidence come out against it despite her being one of the biggest streamers on Twitch atm. If it was fake don't you think something would've come out by now? Maybe she's overexaggerating it, but faking it completely? I doubt it.

>>52905751
IronMouse's illness is real, and she's both doing a lot of work to raise money to help people with the disease and a genuinely nice person as well.

That said, I really don't find her particularly entertaining, and while I'm happy for her that she has a man that makes her happy, I turn away from her stream the instant I hear his voice or see his face.

>>52906442
I'm in this camp

>>52907963
Reality isn't just what you want it to be, anon. You need to have facts on your side or else no one believes you. The facts are heavily stacked in Mousey's favor.

>>52909525
so is compulsive lying.

>>52909758
There was a guy that faked how he was disabled for years on twitch just like ironlung and only got exposed when he slipped once on cam
Conveniently ironlung doesn't have that issue but her whole "I'm permanently attached to a machine that helps me breathe" scam falls apart when she starts breakdancing in VR and talking for hours on end without any breathing issues

>>52909522
CVID, retard-kun. Look it up.

>>52906663
And it will continue to be so for years to come. Her secret? She actually has CVID.

>>52910005
Woah, it's almost like she was unable to do much physical activity for years when she was a poorfag, and nowadays she has enough money to afford the transfusions that let her be more active.

>>52906625
Ironmouse doesn't have AIDs, but what she does have has similar symptoms. Ironmouse has CVID. It's a genetic condition, her DNA has an error that causes it.
In basic terms, the normal human immune system works in two parts: antibodies attach to things that shouldn't be there, tagging them as needing to be destroyed. White blood cells detect these tags and eat whatever they're attached to. Ironmouse's DNA error causes her to not produce the tags. Thus, her white blood cells pass by infections, not knowing to eat them.
Ironmouse receives plasma donations from healthy people to work around this issue. The plasma contains the tags produced by other people. With those in her system, her white blood cells get to work and eat the bad stuff.
Ironmouse's other health problems were caused by infections that were able to get out of control. Damage caused by a massive lung infection severely hampered her ability to absorb oxygen from the air she breathes. She can still breathe in the air itself, though, as her diaphram was not affected. This is how she's still able to sing.
Ironmouse's digestive system was also impacted, and she has trouble digesting a lot of foods. This, combined with her breathing problems and long hospital stays left her with very little energy and abiltiy to walk around. As a result, her muscles weakened from disuse, to the point where she couldn't walk. She's slowly regaining muscle mass.

Some other points:
- Many people in this thread have said she has an autoimmune condition. That's not true. Autoimmune is when your immune system is TOO active, attacking the stuff it shouldn't. Ironmouse's condition is an immune deficiency.
- CVID is typically adult-onset, not presenting symptoms until adulthood. Ironmouse did stuff in her early years that she wouldn't be able to do now. It's not an inconsistency.
- Ironmouse is not a "bubble girl". While she has to be extra careful about infection and generally stays indoors, she's not confined to a sterile environment. She often gets sick, but that's what the plasma is for.
- ironmouse isn't dying, and she's never claimed to be dying. She just has a shitty time living. She condidtion is chronic, not terminal.

>>52907603
no, you've pretty much got it right.

>>52908092
You're a lot smarter for unquestioningly believing everything /vt/ says, anon. Keep it up.

>>52909940
Ok Ben Shapiro.

>>52910005
>I'm permanently attached to a machine that helps me breathe
source? made up?

>>52910204
The fact that you are even asking for source on ironmouses own words is the reason why nobody believes her

>>52910167
Facts may not care about your feelings, but I do.

>>52910249
The fact you're unable to give sources when asked is why no one believes you.
Not like a source would save your case, since if it's from 3+ years ago then >>52910081 makes perfect sense.

>>52907963
i know these types,
oh no me sick, me weakly , save me sempai
these are the biggest red flags of any hoe you can see.

>>52907603
Seriously though, why the fuck does she need so many damn models? It's unreal, she has like 50. Nobody needs that much variety, this is VTubing not Fortnite, you don't need 100 different skins.

>>52910409
>asks for an explanation in reply to anon giving an explanation
naruhodo

>>52910204
It's partially true. She has a machine, but it's not "permanently attached" - it's just an oxygen concentrator that feeds her pure oxygen through a bog standard nose tube. It comes off.
Ironmouse can air breathe in and out just fine. What she has trouble with is getting the oxygen from that air while it's in her lungs. Breathing 100% O2 give her a better chance at actually capuring any of it.

>>52905751
Her "illness" is that she's a single mom and the entire industry is supporting her out of pity

>>52910774
Forgot pic (also lol it's in upsidedown in this stock image)

>>52910409
It's like clothes for her because she doesn't go out
she wants to be in fashion

>>52905751
Knowing people irl with immune diseases, I've seen people be really anal about certain shit, to the level of mouse. I haven't personally seen it be that bad year round, but on the other hand I'm not always around the people I personally know. There's a shot that it's something like that in their day to day, depending on the severity of whatever they have

>>52906329
the WP in the corner is the logo for the Washington Post

>>52910928
>I haven't personally seen it be that bad year round
It's a chronic disability. It's likely not going away.

>>52905751
>How a vtuber took over twitch!!
No, some hispanic fat fuck had over 3.8 million CCV on one of his events, ironmouse didn't take over shit.
Also I don't believe her illness
>B-but the sound!!!
>Her friends say so!!!
Yeah is not the first time a group of ''friends'' cover something up, just look at zentreya, does that make her less entertaining? no but I ain't believe shit from someone on the internet without a video and hard proof rather than some ''sounds''

>>52911051
It's from last year
>>52910928
It's chronic, at end of the day she will still have it for years, The fact that most people confuse Terminal with Chronic really tells you what kind of people are usually in these baits

>>52910005
Ironmouse doesn't have BREATHING issues, she has RESPIRATION issues. If you don't understand the difference then retake some elementary school level biology classes before you speak up again.

>>52905751
ok, im no that intune with what she says or does, but heres a couple things ive heard/picked up on. i wanna first point out yes i dont particalularly like her, dont really know why but whatever.
first of all, she gets a new model like every couple of months, claims she used to be real poor, but that her medical bill was like 10k a month (this might be vastly overexaggerated, i cant remember the clip i watched). NONE of that adds up together, if u aint rich you have a mindset of keeping onto things if they arent broken, not spending 6k for a new highend model every other month. medical builds in NA are sky high too, idk much about puerto rico or wherever she lived in her childhood, but i doubt they had completely free healthcare, and if the medical bills really were costing that much, how were her family poor. i dont buy the idea of a loan, considering every influencer would make some content over repaying the loan back to their parents. so she either wasnt poor, or the medical bills were not much, if they existed at all. she consistantly has contradicted herself on certain matters on stream. the last thing is when she was moving house? i think a couple months ago. aparently she DIDNT CHECK THE PLACE SHE WAS MOVING TO, NOR DID SHE GET ANYONE TO CHECK, NOR DID SHE GO THROUGH LEGAL PRECEDINGS WITH THE ESTATE AGENTS AFTER IT WAS FOUND TO HAVE MOLD IN THE BUILDING. please explain, how if you have health issues YOU ARENT CHECKING THESE THINGS

>>52911054
>>52911160

Yeah, that's a big reason I really can't doubt it, especially having lost family members to other chronic diseases. The shit is hard to deal with and never ENTIRELY fucks off

>>52910462
Yeah, my bad. I only read the first part of that post.
But like still, why models specifically? There are so many other things that she could spend it on that would actually help her career. Why doesn't she buy better streaming equipment? Also doesn't she need money to pay for healthcare? I can't imagine her constant medical bills would be cheap.
>>52910925
That's fucking sad. Also, I swear to god half of these models look the exact same, maybe I'm just blind though.

>>52905751
If she was faking, people would have already found out. There are always crazy schizos and autists who would be able to find someone who's been streaming as long as she has. A person who needs special medical equipment, specific medication, and plasma treatments would be obscenely easy to dox.
Yet it hasn't happened. Either there's no real interest in her as an individual, or internet crazies are all talk and have lost their touch.

>>52911681
last thing to add on, if she really was poor, how did she afford her streaming rigs to begin with, ive been poor my entire life and at no point have i been ever able to afford a rig that can run vtube studio or even obs desu, and not only do i not have health issues, but healthcare is free where i live. oh i also live in a first world country, and im not from sea, so dont lump me in with that lmao

>>52911754
Because models are the main thing she uses, any vtuber's brand is their design, having a lot gives her access to more merch opportunities.
>Why doesn't she buy better streaming equipment?
If she already paid for the top of the line (pc, mic, consoles) why would she need to invest in more?
>Also doesn't she need money to pay for healthcare?
It isn't, then again she has money
You have no idea how much you can do with sponsors, merch, and all of the stuff from the side, that isn't just the monthly money she gets on streams.
>I swear to god half of these models look the exact same, maybe I'm just blind though.
The thing that's funny is that people in the board will always say stuff like "Oh her models aren't the same", is they look the similar (because most of them are cropped) it's because she doesn't want to be lose her brand: she's a pink demon.

>>52912161
>at no point have i been ever able to afford a rig that can run vtube studio or even obs desu, and not only do i not have health issues, but healthcare is free where i live. oh i also live in a first world country
It's literally impossible for both of those to be true. You can run vtube studio on a like a 500$ pc, less if you bought used. Even a poorfag can scrounge up 500 bucks.

>>52912205
also like any other streamer, she also finances her own stuff like: covers, album, animations, blah blah. Basically, projects.

>>52905751
Why do mainstream media always act like Twitch is the only streaming platform? All their articles are about Twitch streamers. Why do they give credit to Ironmouse for "taking over Twitch" but not Gura for "taking over Youtube"? They did this with Kai Cenat too, Bloomberg ran news saying he got the most Twitch followers as if the top Youtubers don't mog Twitch streamers.

>>52911681
????
Anon?
The mold was discovered BECAUSE she had it inspected before she would have bought it. She never owned the mold home. She was looking at it, discovered there was mold, then stopped looking at that house and looked at other ones.

Were you under some impression that she moved into the mold house?

>>52912161
>>52912161
She started on a simple laptop with some apple earbuds as the mic over 6 years ago anon, vtube studio didn't exist.

>>52912161
she used a free model for like 3 years, she only got her own model with shitty rigging when she was averaging ~50 viewers and that was by the same artist who did the free model
she streamed from a toaster until this very year, she's only just started playing games like GTA 5 and Red dead redemption 2 this summer because until then she didn't have a computer strong enough to run modern games
if you go back to her vods from like 2020 most games she played were slide shows

i was at the ironmouse/connor panel during anime expo and some lady with an auto immune disease came up during QnA saying how much of an influence mousey is to her.
and the whole time i'm just thinking, bitch you gonna die. you're at a 100k person event where half the weebs don't shower.

i caught covid after AX so i might be slightly bitter right now.

>>52911681
Ok, you wrote too much like you are having a breakdown, calm down bro kek
First off, as the models, that's another expense since she can't basically have other real expense that makes sense.
>claim she used to be real poor but that her medical bill was like 10k a month
Well there's several factors: one, she claimed over the recent years, not back then, with her issue the problems increase hence a expensive bill, she still has family that probably tried their hardest and has commentated a lot of times about the IDF helping her (reason why she had several charities to them).
>idk much about puerto rico or wherever she lived in her childhood, but i doubt they had completely free healthcare, and if the medical bills really were costing that much, how were her family poor.
reason why she left to the US
>i dont buy the idea of a loan, considering every influencer would make some content over repaying the loan back to their parents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb1tSXyzmzU

>>52912396
Because live streaming is the main focus of Twitch, while live streaming is far from the main focus of Youtube. So it doesn't get pushed as hard.
Also, Amazon probably paid off all the media or something but let's ignore that.

>>52912720
You're confusing autoimmune with immune deficiency.

>>52913055
Oh crap, Bezos owns WashPo. Forgot about that

>>52912720
Anon, think about what "auto" means.

>>52911754
>Also, I swear to god half of these models look the exact same, maybe I'm just blind though.
You ever see a wealthy woman who doesnt have a walk-in closet filled with 50 pairs of identical shoes?

>>52913231
You know, when you put it like that, it makes a shit ton of sense.

>>52912870
>Well there's several factors: one, she claimed over the recent years, not back then, with her issue the problems increase hence a expensive bill, she still has family that probably tried their hardest and has commentated a lot of times about the IDF helping her (reason why she had several charities to them).
Expanding on this:
The problems also increase in like, for example, plasma. Depending on the case it could go for monthly to daily if the problems are bad enough.
Part of the reason she's more "healthy" in recent years it's because back then she wouldn't be able to pay for most of it in time, hence why she was sicker before. As many of the people that have some PI, it all depends on the treatment, so the lack of one could seriously be their biggest downfall, same reason why her problems became incredibly worse.

At the end of it, she has managed to make the PI stuff more public which is surprising because it wasn't really a thing a lot of people talk to, so either if she's faking it or she's telling the truth, she has done more stuff for anyone that suffers from a PI in recent years
https://primaryimmune.org/about-primary-immunodeficiencies
>>52913231
I'm stealing this whenever the new bait comes around

>>52910106
thanks anon, that's actually a very helpful rundown

>>52910106
Thanks I agree this was insightful.

>>52909954
t. 1.7 GPA

>>52905751
Obviously we can’t know for certain, bug there seems to be more in favour of it being true than being false. I don’t really see a vtuber this big being able that hide something like this for so long.

>>52905751
>faking her illness
Not faking it obviously, but exaggerating it.
>Waah waah, I'm so sick, give me money! Poor me! Waaaah!
Generally just acting so poor and miserable, turning on the water works, people assume she's about to fucking die or some shit when it turns out she's just fine. It's a typical behavior of a woman to seek sympathy in almost everything, when they get something like this they can milk for cash while doing it they become the most whiny, pathetic creatures you've ever seen. When she was smaller she probably got more money the more weak and pathetic she acted out of simp-athy, which made it a central part of her streaming. Now that she's bigger she has to keep it up even when she's fine or people will call her out on her shit.
She's just an egirl with a cold.

>>52907569
Her lung issue is MAC lung disease. She used to have a channel in her discord discussing it. Its normally highly treatable and some people never realize they ever caught it.

Issue is thanks to her CVID it instead is permanently nestled into her lung tissue, forever held in recession thanks to the fuck ton of medication she takes.

>>52910106
Holy Dick an actual explanation.
That's fucking brutal dude.
As shitty as the healthcare is up here in leafland atleast I have an option to end my life long suffering, if it ever comes to that.

>>52906442
This. Many people have medical issues, but few milk it to this degree.

I believe she's sick but I find disgusting how much she milks it for views when is probably not as serious as she claims.
But I once thought the same about an artist and she died, so who there's to say

>>52914943
She's only as sick as recently as the coof? Here I was thinking dying was her entire 'gimmick' for her whole career

>>52918577
She's from an already poor region and her family was poor af because they had to pay for her expensive treatments out of pocket. Her twitch income has probably given her entire family freedom from the paycheck to paycheck and debt rat race.
I'd milk the fuck out of it too, specially since her viewers don't seem to mind much about it.

>>52918742
>another dipshit thinks CVID is COVID
/vt/ should be nuked.

>>52918742
CVID and COVID are very different illnesses anon...

>>52905751
doesn't she have a kid?

>>52910005
>"I'm permanently attached to a machine that helps me breathe"
She does not need help breathing. She is on concentrated oxygen.
>breakdancing in VR
This has not happened.

>>52912396
>as if the top Youtubers don't mog Twitch streamers
Other than vtubers (which on YouTube are mostly Japanese) the biggest YouTube streamers are Twitch streamers who got bought out

>>52918176
She's giving 75% of her subathon money away to charity.

>>52914856
>people assume she's about to fucking die
The only people who assume this are people who don't actually watch her

>>52921380
Clarification, she's actually giving all of it.

100% of direct donos.
100% of bits.
100% of special subathon merch sales
50% of subs, because Twitch takes the other 50%.

The only revenue she'll get for that subathon is advertising, sponsors, and non-subathon related merch, which is still a lot, but considering she easily made over $1m in just subs (half to Twitch half to IDF), she's not making nearly as much as she could have.

>>52905751
>Just out of curiosity, who here legitimately believes Ironmouse is faking her illness?
no one

>washington compost

i belive in the illness thing. but im more curious about that rumor ofher having a daughter.
i watched that clip and it appeared to be pretty convincent. if its fake, then its well done