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Summer crabs edition

>What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Adobe Premiere Pro.

Open company auditions:
https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Twitter branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG

>> No.52752766

First for sex with (you)_______

>> No.52753519

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.52754709

>>52753519
>grow up being abused by men
>hate men
>hate self because also a man
>go trans out of cope
>still hate self because of man voice
>decide can't stream because of hating own voice
>spend all day beating on people reliving the past
>tells herself that's my identity rep for the day
May you find peace.

>> No.52754712

owari da..

>> No.52754733
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>>52753519
Are you saying this isn't cute?
It's ok bro I still love you

>> No.52754767

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Previous thread: >>52666947

>> No.52754825

has anyone else's will to play games while not on stream dropped completely after you started streaming? i don't know how to describe it, they still sound like they will be fun but at the same time they dont

>> No.52754855

https://twitter.com/fsp_english/status/1675746189893853185?t=MsR-l48K55YYen9Id4XjSw&s=19

First Stage Production EN auditions open.

>> No.52754887
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>>52753519
are you saying he isn't cute?

>> No.52754920

>>52754887
I love this dog like you wouldn't believe

>> No.52754996

>>52754825
Yeah, same. Gaming is just gaming, it lacks the feeling of genuinely building something meaningful. Communities dry up, people move on. Pretty sure we could all do with a little less vidya and more productivity, less is more.

Streaming is a great way to take gaming to the next level and become the common ground for your friends that don't play anymore to keep in touch.

>> No.52755047

>>52754920
He is a proud member of the wolf family, so you better remember for next time or there would be consequences.

>> No.52755062

>>52754996
yeah except rather than having fun and playing games i sit around and wish i was playing games doing nothing, so i wouldnt say i'm gaining much by my lack of game playing

>> No.52755180

>>52755047
Our cute pet dog will remember his place in time.

>> No.52755194

>>52755062
Use games as a reward for doing other things then.

>> No.52755375

>>52755047
The need to domesticate this wolf

>> No.52755752

>>52755062
You've been freed from your addiction. Congrats.

>> No.52756095
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52756095

Thank you, Bajura.

>> No.52756733

Hello /asp! I'm hoping to start streaming in the next month or so, with the goal of moving on to vtubing.

My model will not have big badonkas or be/act lewd as that's not really my thing. The character I'm working on will be heavily influenced by her kayfabe, but will probably need a little bit of (seiso) GFE to make it all work, if that's even possible. Does anyone have recommendations of female indie vtubers that might have similar characteristics that I could watch to see what works?

I don't normally watch indies, apart from EngeliHeart or Limealicious on Twitch. They're probably considered more on the normie streamer side of the scene, so I don't even know who to start with.

Any other suggestions that you feel might be helpful would also be appreciated, thank you!

>> No.52757334

>>52756733
GFE with the word "You" as much as possible and break the fourth wall. That way everyone can enjoy it, not just the one person you're talking to (which may cause other viewers to feel inadequate/jealous and leave).

>> No.52757462

>>52756733
girl_dm_ is one of the premier female indies for non-lewd content, plus she's done a lot of content on the practical side of how to manage vtubing & content creation

>> No.52757646

>>52756733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huOyV83k0CQ

Ironic stream that's pretty good at pointing out what not to do. You may be interested in her actually serious streams as an example too.

>> No.52757989

Need a fellow 0 view to collab with speaking into the void is slowly killing me

>> No.52758499

https://youtu.be/8soE0Li3jyA
1:50

>> No.52758518

>>52757334
That's a really good point, thank you!

>>52757462
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll be sure to check her out! Somehow I think I was getting her mixed up with Momo, since they're both green.

>>52757646
Ohhhh, lol yeah, that's pretty much everything I don't want to do. The champyon posting on the board always scared me away from checking her out, but will give her a look, thank you!

>> No.52758840

>>52758499
This looks like a promising watch (and new!) thank you!

>> No.52759775

>>52754825
Me too

>> No.52763297

gn

>> No.52763430

>>52763297
Why did you do it?

>> No.52763465

>>52763430
do what? :3c

>> No.52763689

>>52763465
You know damn well. Bumped the thread.

>> No.52763727

>>52763465
Please why did you do it?

>> No.52763744

How do I come up with a cute and charming design for my mascot for my fans? I'm so bad with non humanoid designs.

>> No.52765167

>>52763744
depends what's your vtuber theme, the safest would be an animal

>> No.52766026

Most Naive /asp/ie?

>> No.52766030
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Hi again awoomfies! I'm not doing anything special today so I figured since today's a holiday and all, I would do an extra long stream for fun! I don't have a particular length in mind, but there will definitely be lots of fireworks in the background tonight! Okami starting in about 15m!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>> No.52766163

>>52766026
haru, everyone wants to groom and fuck the dog but he think they are just friendly

>> No.52766525

>>52766163
I'm a wolf!

>> No.52766527
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52766527

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQPHzZ_dFGs

SwissedToast here, tonight I bury the demon Yellow Cat. Re-debuting Live in 10 minutes aaa.

Topics: Recovery, Strength, Positivity. Moving forward together.
Thank You for You. Live strong, anon!

>> No.52767379

>>52753519
but anon... the males are hanging out with the cute girls and collabing, and you aren't...

>> No.52767701

>>52766527
Well I'm glad he's taking his meds.

>> No.52767880

>>52767701
let's hope his life turns around for the better

>> No.52768059

In about 9 minutes we'll be relieving some nostalgia, going to be trying out Magic The Gathering Arena. Then we'll run through some sets in Street Fighter with my main man Dhalsim!

https://www.twitch.tv/kankurokingch

>> No.52769365

Did Alva die?

>> No.52770149

>>52766527
I don't get it, why people hate you?

>> No.52770168
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>>52767701
>>52767880

>> No.52770788

>>52770149
Schizo heroin addict I heard from the bitter trannies. Tarnishing my good schizo name with a regular brand crazy man

>> No.52771483

>>52770149
Have you noticed the threads being especially off-topic lately, with several posts posted in a row barely making any sense?
That's him.

>> No.52771791

>>52771483
At lest he's high entropy, the threads have been very low entropy and BORING for a while until he arrived.

>> No.52771893

>>52758499
what the fuck

>> No.52772606

>>52771791
This is /asp/, a thread for the aspiring vtuber, not a schizo's blog. He's the reason why the threads are dead, nobody wants to post in the same thread as him apart from a couple gullible newcomers who think schizos deserve a chance.

>> No.52773001 [DELETED] 

>>52772606
>>52771791
>>52771483
My favourite part is you retards mistaking me for him.

And the thread is dead because its full of faggots and trannies trying to Groom people rather than make actual fontent. The same reason everything else good in this world turned to complete dogshit.

RETARDED MKULTRA VICTIM TRANNIES.

(Thanks for reading my blog)

>> No.52773304

>>52763744
Start with a blob, add features tied to your design/lore. EZ

>> No.52773439

>>52770149
Being a cockroach sums up his existence. Imagine a cockroach that does backflips. You know it's an annoying pest that needs to be killed but it does backflips so you tolerate its entertaining presence. One time it backflipped and jumped to your drink so it's just natural you squash the bug. Turns out it's not dead and has returned with a frontflip gimmick and a smiley. You find him no longer entertaining so you just squash it outright

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>>52770149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

>> No.52777316

>>52777159
Nigga, you absolute fag, you fucking BUFFON.
Yellow shit is the reason /asp/ has been shit since last year.

>> No.52777392

>>52770149
He's mentally retarded, like most druggies, and doesn't have self-awareness
This isn't his first rodeo and he's not a victim

>> No.52780603 [DELETED] 

You could be a normal fan and stfu yknow.

>> No.52780733

>rent free
You could be a normal fan or stfu yknow.

>> No.52781172

>>52766527
I liked the part where you said reincarnation for trannies doesn't exist.

>> No.52782441

>>52781172
reincarnation doesn't exist

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>>52782441

>> No.52783542

Fuck it, I'll do as i must.
I haven't felt enthused to sexpost about anyone for a bit, but I'm adding Haru to the rotation. I'm gonna breed that wolf.
>Haru's a guy
Haru's getting boypreggers, is what he is.

>> No.52784585

>>52783542
Haru is a proud member of the wolf species, he will not get pounded by some no name riff-raff

>> No.52784651

>>52784585
haru is for big purebred knots only

>> No.52785115

>>52784585
Haru can't even defend himself from getting flipped upside down and groped. Haru's getting pounded. By me.

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>>52753519
Skill issue

>> No.52786186

So, aspies, what is your voice age?(seems only work with mp3 btw)
https://audiochum.com/voiceage/

>> No.52787083

Have you been naughty or nice today

>> No.52787214

>>52782946
this is a good potat

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>>52787214
NO U

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>>52782946
>>52787647

>> No.52788047

>>52787679
this is a good potat

>> No.52788776

Why is the thread dead now?

>> No.52788826

>>52788776
america holiday, eu asleep

>> No.52788930

>>52788776
we are all watching haru, no time to spend here until his stream ends

>> No.52789649

>>52788776
I refuse to bump the thread in its current state

>> No.52790471

How can I become an ESL-king when I’m an EOP?

>> No.52790588

>>52790471
do you want to learn spanish?

>> No.52790632
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I dropped out of school to be a full time streamer. I'll either make it or die trying.

>> No.52790678

>>52790632
Why would you do that? if you didn't want to study you could just gotten a job.

>> No.52790727

>>52790678
I don't want to work

>> No.52790802

>>52790727
protip the only way you'll be successful enough to make it as a streamer is if you treat it as a full time job anyway

>> No.52790900

>>52790471
Learn motherfucker, all ESLs had to learn at least English, are you inferior to a third worlder?

>> No.52794763

Hopeful up

>> No.52794985

>>52790632
Most aspies are either wagies or students, you're doing something horribly wrong anon

>> No.52795853

Girth is more important than length

>> No.52796124

>>52795853
only true if you plan on fucking a horse

>> No.52797477

>>52795853
Hardness is king. Size doesn't mean shit if it's not as hard as a coke bottle

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>>52766030
Stream over, time for dinner and then sleep! Thank you to every awoomfie who showed up for any amount of time, I couldn't do this without you!
Have a wonderful night!

>> No.52797568

>>52797505
if this is up when you wake up or you haven't gone to bed yet I want to tell you that you can use the gif however you want.

>> No.52797742

>>52782441
This
>>52781172
kys and find out duh, also fuck you for ratting to your tranny janny friends. My post was directly related to vtubing

>> No.52797781

>>52788776
It's boring,one schizo tranny quad posting about how much they hate some other alleged schizo. and fags advertising discords that make the community more insular and segmented.

>> No.52797939

>>52770149
He streamed himself calling a suicide prevention hotline and sent it to a chuuba that took pity on us and came to give a few tips. He apparently threatened also sent videos of cutting himself to said chuuba. You just don't come back from all that shit.

>> No.52798004

>>52787679
sigh... PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP

>> No.52798275

>>52790632
>>52790727
Based but it's not that extreme if you are from Europe. You can only thrive if you put 100% into something.

>> No.52798845

>>52754825
I wasn't playing games anyway. Streaming brought my motivation back

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>>52797568
Thank you again so much! I didn't wanna do anything else with it without permission, I didn't wanna make any assumptions. I might keep it up by chat for now until I find somewhere better for it.
Please do keep at drawing though, it looks great and I'd love to see more art you make, or if you don't mind sharing, I would love to see your older art on the off chance you have any around still, it's so cute!

>> No.52799455

>>52798941
im making another gif but no idea if I can finish it by the time you play okami again

>> No.52799693

Haru's turning me gay fuck fuck fuck

>> No.52799756

>>52799693
I'm convinced that haru can't be a male, so you are not gay.
Am I coping, possibly.

>> No.52799966

>>52799455
Oh, thank you so much! I don't want you to feel like you have to keep making stuff for me, just knowing you care and that you like the streams already means more to me than I can put into words. Please also don't worry about finishing it on any kind of deadline or anything, I just want to see you keep improving and doing your best, knowing that I'm motivating others is doing great for my own person motivation! I've been able to get back into some health habits since I've started streaming thanks to all of the encouragement!
>>52799756
I think if I were a girl, I probably would have ended up going down a different path, I dunno... I might not have ended up here? It's hard to say!

>> No.52800114

>>52799966
>Oh, thank you so much! I don't want you to feel like you have to keep making stuff for me, just knowing you care and that you like the streams already means more to me than I can put into words. Please also don't worry about finishing it on any kind of deadline or anything, I just want to see you keep improving and doing your best, knowing that I'm motivating others is doing great for my own person motivation! I've been able to get back into some health habits since I've started streaming thanks to all of the encouragement!
I was making both GIFs at the same time and once I finish this one I will stop before getting burned out so don't worry, the reason I wanted to finish before the next okami stream was because it would have chibi amaterasu in the art

>> No.52800121

today's grooming diary:
>how old are you?
>15
abort abort abort

>> No.52800326

>>52800114
That sounds super cute, I look forward to it! That will just give me more reason to stream the other Okami games at some point, so I can get even more relevant usage out of it, hehehe. I'm glad you're pacing yourself, avoiding burnout is important. I'm pretty bad about that one myself, I tend to go really hard on something and get it in my mind that it's make or break and not being able to live up to my own internal expectations... Taking a moderate pace and forming healthy long term habits is the best!

>> No.52800342

I hate this shit. Just wanna break into 2-digit CCV already. The novelty from the new model design wore off quick. What do I have to do?

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>>52800342
Forgot pic

>> No.52800417

>>52800342
Suck some cock and maybe get bots

>> No.52800463

>>52800342
impossible to force it, just keep trying or leech off someone bigger

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>>52800463
I did a collab with a slightly larger vtuber and got 1 follower out of it, still didn't break 2-digit CCV average. I've been at this so long and still haven't figured it out.

The only solutions I've thought of are changing my schedule to be more conducive to US viewers and shilling myself here more.

>> No.52801087

After watching his comeback stream, I feel that yellow cat deserves to be allowed back into the aspcord, we've been too harsh with him

>> No.52801194

After watching his comeback stream, I feel like yellow cat owes me money for the time I wasted. We weren't harsh enough to him

>> No.52801209

>t. yellow cat

>> No.52801425

I don't know why people hate yellow cat so much, his antics are funny

>> No.52801617

>>52801425
Why don't you fuck him if you like schizos so much

>> No.52801758

>>52800342
Be entertaining

>> No.52801970

>>52801425
You might think it's funny until you're on the receiving end of it. He pulled off some deranged stuff with an established chuuba who was kind enough to associate herself with aspies, who's to say he wouldn't do it to you and crash your whole brand

>> No.52802240

>>52801758
Not for lack of trying bruh

>> No.52804311

What kinds of content can you create if you only have access to a Celeron laptop?

>> No.52804741

>>52804311
Celeron Laptop reviews

>> No.52805096

>>52804741
lol

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Congrats, Beryl!

>> No.52805776

>>52800749
Who was the vtuber?

>> No.52805853

>>52805383
he streams in a very good time slot to receive raids it's pretty smart actually, im pretty sure he gets raided like once or twice per stream

>> No.52805985

>>52805776
Fuwacoco

>> No.52806199

>>52805853
he got raided twice during that stream, so yeah, it seems like it

>> No.52806357

>>52806199
I'd stream at 6am aswell if i didn't either have work there or just got off work, working shifts really killed my chances to ever get raided.

>> No.52806573

>>52805985
I collabed with coco too and didn't pick up much, she has the coomer audience remember so they won't be as interested in males.

I don't really care about CCV though so I'll continue doing femchuuba collabs.

>> No.52806810

>>52806573
>they won't be as interested in males
>interested in males
>males
>am female

>> No.52806927

>>52806810
Just keep at it, Cats, I believe in you.

>> No.52807048

>>52806810
ok fine they also aren't as interested in females that they aren't currently jerking off to
if there's one thing I've learned from seeing people talk about numbers when it comes to ASMR streams relative to their normal content it's that coomers just want to coom and the picosecond you're doing something else they're gone

>> No.52807196

I honestly don't know why cats isn't popping off.
She's british (a buff) and cute I watch her streams a lot

>> No.52807423

>>52807196
Money for advertising, something most people here forget.

>> No.52807597

I am trying to train my voice to have more energy and sound higher pitch/loli. Any anons here have any advice?

>> No.52807624

>>52807196
>>52806927
You guys are so sweet thank you. I am gonna keep going and I have been growing but it's so, so slow and others who have debuted after me have raced ahead. At least I'm not streaming into the void anymore.
>>52807048
That makes sense but I'm not appealing to those people anyway. I just want some company while I try to complete games.

>> No.52807652

>>52807423
Runoxi and Beryl seem like the ones that have marketed/advertised themselves the most, but I can imagine it probably cost them a decent amount of money making things look as good as they are.

>> No.52807699

>>52807624
>That makes sense but I'm not appealing to those people anyway. I just want some company while I try to complete games.
Yeah you are on the same battle I am, I don't want to be a coom creator so that limits early growth but I think it has a higher ceiling in the end..

>> No.52807791

>>52807624
das alright, keep going slowly. a lot of people here have streamed for 2+ years with no growth whatsoever (t. gen 3 male), so as long you still get people coming you should focus on fun streams. I've been following chuubas for a while and all of my friends and people I'm watching do way better than me and inclined at some point, it's kinda painful but I've at least grown numb to it. I'm trying to be happy for what i have even if it's basically nothing.

>> No.52807929

>>52805383
who?

>> No.52807970
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Time and time again I keep seeing people get into VTubing thinking it's a genius convenient "way out" instead of the simple healthy platform it's meant to be.

You're literally just talking, being yourself, and have a cute original character. That's it. Perspective and attitude are everything.

>> No.52808013

>>52807970
What is it a "way out" of?
I just want to make cool educational content.

>> No.52808110

>>52807970
what does this even mean
i get the feeling you're a menhera 1view arguing with your own thoughts

>> No.52808152

>>52807970
>VTubing
>simple healthy platform
Just Lmao
There is nothing healthy about simulated relationships with magical impossible 14yo anime girl characters, there never will be, vtubing damages everyone involved. Recognize this is digital opium or live in delusion.

>> No.52808170

Hyperbolica is a fun game but hard to stream, I started getting a little nauseous, I wonder how the audience felt.

>> No.52808281

>>52808013
These >>52790632 people.

>>52808152
Not everyone is like you lol. Jesus christ.

>> No.52808349

>>52808281
The 95% heterosexual male audience of every vtuber indicates you are delusional
Delusions are unhealthy and always blow up in your face. This will happen, don't say I didn't warn you

>> No.52808415

>>52808349
>sperging out about gender and sexuality
What do you stream for?

>> No.52808565

>>52808415
Attention, money and validation.

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>>52808565

>> No.52808709

More like word down.

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I can see why Anyaposter decided to leave.

>> No.52809116

>>52808966
>1 year+ nostalgiafag
I got three steam gifts for my redebut and got to see a dozen friends who quit the games I met them on. I'm satisfied enough to quit smoking cigarettes and sleep and eat well again.

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>>52807970
I would even go as far as saying that being a vtuber rather than a flesh content creator significantly limits your growth. Flesh content creators appeal to almost anyone, vtubers appeal to a specific audience, and the competition for this audience is insane.
So yeah, if you've become or planning to become a vtuber for reasons other than having fun, you should honestly reconsider.
>>52808152
You should look into who were the big vtubers during the FHK era. This whole "simulated relationships" niche is way smaller than you think.

>> No.52810509

Only issue i have is that my viewers are mostly lurkers. Usually hit 18 CCV with barely anyone talking but i suppose i shouldnt complain.

>> No.52810902

>>52810509
I would gladly take 5 CCV with 4 chatters over 40 CCV with zero chatters, I swear I've got 6 CCV with 1 chatter instead. For me interaction between the streamers and the viewers is the main appeal of streams, which is why I don't really watch big streamers.

>> No.52811421

>0 CCV with no chatters

>> No.52811448

I wonder how much ccv is enough to make money to live on

>> No.52811516

>>52811448
CCV isn't a good measure for income

>> No.52811942

Slag

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>> No.52812735

Wiggly's are mid

>> No.52812800

>>52812735
Fighting words

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>>52812735
Wrong

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I want Digby to get into holostars he is exactly the sort of person they need to stop being so cringe

>> No.52812984

I think a lot of /asp/ies, especially males, miss a crucial point. You DO NOT have to be an indie vtuber before going corpo. It is NOT required. They just want to see that you can create content and maintain a presence/following- be that through vtubing, flesh streaming, nocam, prerecorded shit, whatever the fuck it might be.

>> No.52813080

>>52812984
>especially males

>> No.52813183

>>52812984
Yeah like all of those other asies who went corpo with their past content in, uh, something

>> No.52814015

>>52812984
Why the fuck would anyone go to a corpo?

>> No.52814097

>>52814015
To get a huge audience buff and then quit in a few months.

>> No.52815289

>>52814015
Depending on the corpo? It's a huge boost in viewers and income
Holo pays a salary for example
If you go niji then you can get a huge advertising and notoriety boost for free that you'll be able to take some of back with you when your gen is mismanaged and you all quiet

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>>52807624
Cats I feel if you find a game that you just instinctively vibe with, you will shoot to the moon.
Genuinely one of the few chuubas I enjoy just chilling in stream and listening to.

>> No.52815372

>>52807970
>That's it.
No. There is more, the possibilities are endless.
Vtubing is art.

>> No.52817246

>>52814015
I'll apply to a very small japanese corpo that provides me with a model, despite me having already one. I want to try it out to see how the dynamic works. What is it like to "work" for someone as a streamer. There will be no benefits for me because I already have everything i need for streaming and their reach is very low so I doubt i'll get much more viewers, but it's still fun doing the corpo larp at least for like a year. I want to gain more experience, especially when it comes to interacting with other people (management or genmates)

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>>52809255
One of the first things in the OP is the gentle reminder that vtubing is a debuff over fleshtubing. We appeal to menhera by definition.

>> No.52818212

>>52818072
Fleshtubing is a debuff on your existence.
No wonder most fleshtubers die their hairs funny colors, good luck being hired by a decent company after your clown show.

Anonymity is great, it lets you be yourself.
If you don't find Vtubing fun, you must be some kind of parasite.

>> No.52818264

>>52818072
Such a debuff that fleshtubers have and frequently do become vtubers and grow exponentially

>> No.52818437

Anyone got the current gen4 tierlist maker?

>> No.52818552

>>52818437
Archive reps

>> No.52819383

>>52818072
I want to be a retarded manchild in the virtual world and still retain my cushy lucrative job irl, thank you very much I'll take vtubing over fleshtubing anyday

>> No.52819987

I want to start streaming soon, do you think I should buy a model to an artist or I should just generate my character ? I'm afraid to spend 1000 dollars on a project that might fail

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>> No.52820084

>>52819987
>Go on a Vision Quest
>Make a Mood Board with your favorite stuff/anime/whatever
>Pick a Color and Silhouette
>Find a cheap artist to commission a Design
>Make PNG, download OBS, get Mic, Go LIVE

>> No.52820135

>>52819987
you can buy a cheap model off booth, you can stream with an AI generated PNG, you can stream with a screencap of a public domain character, shit dude you could just take a photo of your cat and draw some googly eyes on it for all I care. Starting to stream is 99% about hitting "go live" and 1% about your character. You can figure that shit out after you actually know you like to stream.

>> No.52820215

>>52819987
How comfortable are you with Photoshop/similar? You could generate an image but you'd still need to convert things to layers, draw "invisible" parts (teeth, tounge, things hidden behind hair), and stuff like thst.
I got a pretty good model for less than $200 and rigged it mysel8f to get started.

>> No.52820243

>>52819987
You'll want to design your own and pay an artist to have it rendered.

>> No.52820344

>>52820084
>>52820243
i already got some ideas, i'd like to be a tanned bunny boy or something like that. Maybe I should look for a cheap artist on fiverr or something

>>52820215
i use photoshop for photography but it's mostly about adjusting lights and colors, I'm not an expert sadly...

>>52820135
thanks anon that's the kind of energy I needed. Maybe I should just start with a png it'd be easier

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>> No.52820525

>>52820483
*pets*

>> No.52820533

>>52820344
Tanned Bunny Boy sounds Bueno.
But...there's a lack of good Puppet Boy tubers out there - just saying...

I went with Fiverr for my first run of the model.
One thing you'd want to avoid is not pushing back on the artist - make sure the vision matches what you want from the design.

>> No.52820666

>>52820533
kankuro in shambles

>> No.52820681

>>52820533
>But...there's a lack of good Puppet Boy tubers out there - just saying...
kankuro...

>> No.52820772

>>52819987
Just windowshop for premade live2d in booth, there are some pretty decent models, for example:
https://booth.pm/en/items/4877211
This shit looks amazing and is only 2k jpy

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>>52819987
You can make serviceable 3d models with just the vroid studio, even if you don't know how to draw/model at all. Works fine if you want to get the taste of it. Paying for a model right off the bat is risky.
Investing into a decent ($100-150) mic is a good idea though. Janky audio set up is a much bigger turnoff than a derpy model, and good hardware can be sold for almost the purchase price.

>> No.52820850

>>52820772
I realized the model isn't the problem I'm just not entertaining

>> No.52820986

>>52820666
>>52820681
He has a bad case of game narration.

>> No.52821006

>>52820772
wtf this is super cheap ! but i guess anyone can buy it and use it, it's not a unique model

>> No.52821052

>>52820986
How do I avoid this

>> No.52821143

>>52820793
default vroid is a worse debuff than png desu

>> No.52821197

God when Cats smiles and her model gets laugh lines... I wanna do things to this cute hag.

>> No.52821336

>>52821052
If your viewer can see something they don't need to know you saw it too. Tell a story, tell a joke, give context or how you feel about it. Give a genuine reaction. If you're surprised be surprised. Nobody is surprised by everything who isn't DSP.

>> No.52821346

>>52821143
Yes, being a vtuber is a debuff, we've literally just had this discussion.

>> No.52821354

>>52821052
Do your best to live a meaningful life so you have a lot of things to talk about. Inspire others and be a dispenser of hope. There's also the girlfriend/boyfriend effect, engage your chat and be more creative. People can figure out what's going on because they're gamers too. Idk if you care to stand out and deliver something new and original, but it's made me happier.

>> No.52821522

Do people watch fight game streamers who don’t stream themselves playing online against people?

>> No.52821569

>>52821522
That's only a reason of concern if you're trying to establish yourself in the community of said game, competitively.

>> No.52821648

>>52821522
if you're just playing the fighting game for the story, i don't think it'd be a problem if you're just doing the campaign/single player mode

>> No.52821652

>>52821006
It's not unique but it's perfect to get started for people who don't want to sink money, it's already miles ahead of png and the eyecandy aspect will draw the viewers.
Some gen3 aspies started with premades and they did very well

>> No.52821961

>>52821143
Not really. I don’t know why /asp/ has such a hard on for pngs, but they don’t look as good as you think they do.

>> No.52822013

>>52821961
he's not wrong, most of them are better than default vroids.

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>>52821961
>>52822013
flesh < nothing < default preset hoodiehell < active png < 3D < Live2D

>> No.52822375

>>52822124
L2D is honestly extremely overrated. you can do a lot of things with pngs if you're creative enough and 3Ds are generally superior as long as they're actually quality and not a default vroid

>> No.52822386

>>52822124
all < ASCII, apparently

>> No.52822407

>following a YouTuber
>he’s known for being the go to guy for covering the news on one specific gacha game
>20k subscribers on YouTube
>big enough in the gacha game’s community that the producer of the game invites him and other community members to dinner
>he streams on twitch
>barely has 100 live viewers
I dunno man. The whole streaming thing feels kinda hopeless, when you see someone put in that much work and 100 viewers is all they can muster up. To be fair he probably makes most of his money on YouTube and his Amazon affiliate thing, but yeah.

>> No.52822526

>>52822407
youtube videos and live streams are very different fields and it's foolish to think being skilled at one instantly translates into the other just because they both involve video content posted on the internet. it's like saying a talented movie writer can effortlessly write a TV show without having to adapt to the changes in medium.

>> No.52822935

>>52822407
Youtube subscribers do not translate into live audience, at all. Hell, they barely translate into views on youtube videos.
100 live viewers is a lot.
If you're a numberfag, your best strategy is to forgo any kind of actually interesting and unique content and instead spam memeshit and do react streams. You also probably shouldn't be a vtuber.

>> No.52822952

>>52807624
Cats. Just post your link on /asp/ and /wvt/. Most people here and there dont know you exist. Do it consistently and you would get past 10 ccv easy. You just aren't on our radar at all, and people cant watch/raid you if they don't know you exist.

>> No.52823030

>>52822407
If main following comes from youtube, better to just stream on youtube.
I've seen way too many youtube polls where the content creator asks "which platform should I stream on / where do you guys watch streams" and it's always like 90% youtube.

>> No.52823278

>>52822935
You sound like Joe Rogan talking about ‘the craft’ of stand up comedy.

>> No.52823447

>>52823278
>t.viewer

Not enough 1view femoids for you to groom?

>> No.52823539

>>52822407
That's not surprising at all. In fact, those numbers seem pretty good. Lots of small partners on Twitch in the ~100 view (e.g. alicesawyer, basedmilk, henemimi) have right around 10k-ish followers, and this feels pretty typical. 20k Youtube subs translating to a 10k Twitch follower audience is impressive conversion. What do you expect, 2000 viewers?

>> No.52823619

>>52822407
The people posted here would sell their left arm for 100 viewers.

>> No.52823668

>>52822407
that's a normal ratio between YT subscribers and twitch viewers
do you reps, numberfriend!

>> No.52823671

>>52822407
you know 100 viewers is pretty big already right? it's not big corpo tier or huge twitch streamer tier but 90% of streamers will most likely never see those numbers normally

>> No.52823802

Do any of you guys realize how big 100ccv is on the twitch cosmic scale?

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>>52807624

>> No.52824145

>>52823802
I hate numberfags for a multitude of reasons but their complete lack of a sense of scale is pretty high on the list. seeing 100 CCV as a failure is a prime example of that. It reeks of someone that watched a random holo stream and assumes hundreds of dollars and thousands of viewers per stream is the norm. even ignoring vtubing and looking at streaming as a whole, you're lucky to have 5 viewers in many instances. I don't know if they believe it, but anybody here breaking double digits has already "made it."

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>>52824145
>anybody here breaking double digits has already "made it."
thanks anon

>> No.52824222

>>52824145
Numberfriends don't do anything.
They just use bad stats to dissuade themselves, AND also bring down people that just want to have fun.

They're a cancer and it should be a bannable offense on this board, it doesn't bring any discussion.

>> No.52824298

Which aspies here have the best rigged Live2D models?

>> No.52824320

>>52823278
I don't know a definitive formula of a successful channel. It'd be a ridiculous claim, and I'd be rich as fuck if it was true. But some things are obvious.
- Niche stuff is niche. A gachage is niche. Not many people play gachage in the West, even less people are invested enough to also watch related content.
- Quality by itself doesn't translate into views. I just finished watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVt_YW6t08s and this whole channel is a good example. It hosts interviews (or rather talk shows) with legendary game developers, shot by professionals - great production, cozy atmosphere, relaxed but competent pacing, English subtitles. The numbers are laughable for this kind of content. How so? Probably because they don't advertise it at all. Algorithm can carry your channel in theory, but in practice it only really works when you're already big but haven't grasped the entirety of your audience yet.
A 1view doing regular streams and hoping that algorithm-sama will do all the job automatically will very likely stay a 1view even if he's good. Musicians know this very very well — they literally teach you this at Berkley.
>>52823802
Numberfags are not the smartest people.

>> No.52824354

>>52824298
Dante

>> No.52824384

>>52824298
alva, paper mario horns aside

>> No.52824403

>>52824298
gumpai

>> No.52824486

>>52824384
I love the paper mario horns tho.

>> No.52824583

>>52824486
i do too anon, but i would say they detract from the objective quality of the rigging

>> No.52824743

Who do you ship Cats Return with? and what does their sex life look like?

>> No.52824765

I'm excited for the artist I wanna comm my model from to open in December, he's so good it's crazy!

>> No.52825021

>>52824145
I really fucking hate those fucking retards too, but as a numberfag, we understand the difference between youtube and twitch scale. BUT THE PEOPLE NUMBERLARPS WHO POST HERE, GODDAMN WHY IS ALWAYS THE MOST RETARDED
>>52824222
what's worse, numberlarp and crab

numbers is just A TOOL, this hobby is heavily based on LUCK, but sometimes SOMETIMES a simple analysis on graphs can help you to identify trends, what happens that day or some unexpected behavior of viewers. That AND your experience on streams can help you to figure out things.
It's not a number_a > number_b or "why the number don't go up?" it's a little more complicated than that, THAT'S WHY YOU HIDE THE LIVEVIEWER ON TWITCH, THE RED-NUMBER

>> No.52825094

Quality > Quantity

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>>52824765
Show for inspiration

https://twitter.com/fuku_1028_/media

>> No.52825234

>>52825094
You possess neither

>> No.52825246

>>52823802
I think most people here have a good understand of number scales to aspire for as a small/starting vtuber. The only people who have that weird sense of scaling are probably tourists or someone who wants to start out and thought that getting big holo/niji numbers is the norm, in which case they'd be up for a rude awakening.

>> No.52825295

>>52825146
He did my oshi's model and I love his line art style, it looks so good!
https://omochiii12.wixsite.com/mysite

>> No.52825308

>>52824145
fr + usually the big corpo-chicks are DRY they arn't that interesting anymore, if it wasn't gor their company most would be fairly unknown.

>> No.52825331

>>52822407
>he’s known for being the go to guy for covering the news on one specific gacha game
this does not mean he'd be entertaining at livestreaming. plenty of people do great pre-made videos, live essays, reviews, news, etc, but that doesn't mean they have a good personality at capturing people's attention.

>> No.52825386

>>52825295
>omochi
You're a female, right? As far as I know, he only accepts female models unless it's a special circumstance.

>> No.52825441

>>52825295
Sleepyhead spotted

>> No.52825471

>>52825295
I see Beryl is finally going for the omochi model.

>> No.52825509

>>52825386
No, but my character is feminine in appearance. I saw that he said he has a preference for female characters on that page but I went looking through all of those listed there and I saw quite a few males.
>>52825441
Clauvi is part of why I started streaming, I love her streams so much, she's very relaxing to watch!

>> No.52825604

>>52825509
Got a link to which males he's done?

>> No.52825644

>>52825021
Ive streamed for a year and left my viewercount up the entire time. Its actually incredibly helpful sometimes. You can often identify when big drops to your viewership happen and can learn about what not to do to avoid it happening in the future. It can also help you to properly identify when you are doing well as a streamer, sometimes you have horrible chat interaction and yet a good number of people are watching. Just because people aren't interacting in chat doesn't mean you are streaming badly. I really cant imagine not streaming with the viewercount up.

>> No.52825780

>>52825509
What's your design look like?

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>>52825471
Not Beryl, sorry.
>>52825604
https://www.twitch.tv/akishima8
https://m.twitch.tv/moccachan
The two I remember off the top of my head, I forget if there were more or not.
>>52825780

>> No.52825946

>>52825509
>gen 1 aspies being the oshi of gen 4 aspies
it's beautiful how the cycle of life goes sometimes. better let her know in her upcoming 10k stream brudda
>>52825604
NTA but the only one I know is mocca which may as well have a big asterisk on it. I'm not sure omochi even takes male requests usually but I mean, worst they can do is say no.

>> No.52826046

>>52825644
you have a year of experience, you can work with the viewercount.
my comment was about new people, who are gonna freak out when numbers go down, causing anxiety or leaving
also, we're in /asp/, and I think the majority here want to start streaming as vtuber, or have a couple of weeks streaming and want help... oh nvm that's not the case completely

>> No.52826255

>>52825946
I DMed her on Twitter and told her, she replied to me and gave me an even longer wall of text back, it really meant a lot to me, I sent her another one back but I'm super happy she messaged me back once already. I'm sure she gets a ton of messages and is pretty busy!

>> No.52826375

>>52824743
Myself. It's very wholesome.

>> No.52826380

>>52825295
1000000/10

>> No.52826426

>>52826046
I did it from day one. I think its kind of bad advice to tell new people to turn off the viewer count. I mean if they cant handle the stress of keeping it up sure, but its a really handy tool.

>> No.52826683

>>52825234
You're like the homeless guys that sit on the sidewalk and yell at the crowds lol.

I release you back into the oceans of the void, my beloved pet nipple crab. You're gonna starve when your parents die if all you eat is horomones and furry porn.
Bye bye.

>> No.52826862

do any aspies do non-gaming content other than lcolonq?

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>> No.52827315

>>52826862
i play music as my main schtick but i also play lots of games outside of my only scheduled stream, parseks reads research papers, sunalbionis reads latin and historical stuff, alva was reading some stuff on stream too

>> No.52827664

remember when xia was coming back?

lol, lmao

>> No.52827669

Honestly i really want to stream but tweeting all day to gain visibility and to grow a community sounds tiresome. I don't want to be categorized as an attention whore

>> No.52827785

>>52827664
your fear of abandonment is showing.

>> No.52827809

>>52827669
>i really want to stream
>I don't want to be categorized as an attention whore
Anon, I...

>> No.52828017

You really oughta put your energies and focus to better people and things, YC. You have a noble cause and good heart but your message that's going to take everything you have to deliver. Consider Podcast.

Btw try peer advocacy or nursing. You'd probably kill yourself as a therapist. Schizo.

>> No.52828049

>>52827809
I just want to chill after work and play while talking with nice people... Also if I just play alone there is no commitment and I'll quickly drop the game to play another one

>> No.52828854

>>52828017
lol not the first time I've heard it, Thanks.

>> No.52830841

Does anyone have a recent build of StreamFX? I really need something that's only available there and I'm not giving that fag dev my money
Otherwise I'll bang my head against the wall trying to build it manually

>> No.52831212

>>52830841
No but depending what you're doing theres probably free alternative plugins

>> No.52831300

>>52826380
I agree! His art looks so great, I hope I can get in when he opens up... I genuinely think it will be the only model I need, getting another after getting my dream model sounds silly, unless it's a chibi or something!

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How do you maintain kayfabe when talking to first-timers in chat? Like, when they ask you something like "Have you attended a college?" and your lore is a fugitive princess of a conquered fantasy kingdom, and you blurt out: "I finished a semester in alchemy and politology, but then my parents got killed and I had to quit studying to run away, so that's about it", how do you respond to their WutFace?

>> No.52831455

>>52824403
My rigger charged me $1k for a limited angled model, I got jewed pretty bad, I’d suggest someone from the Philippines instead since her highest tier rig was at $4k. Though she finishes her work within a month.

>> No.52831594

>>52831212
I need the dynamic masking and the janky native workaround doesn't work, I haven't found an alternative

>> No.52831604

>>52826862
yeah
>>52824743
Runoxi.
>>52831367
boysmeller

>> No.52831626

>>52831367
Tell them to fuck off.

>> No.52831668

>>52821522
Like they stream themselves fighting a friend offline?
It can work but it needs great personalities + fun gimmicks/challenges to make it worth it

>> No.52831693

>>52831367
if they wutface, do you want them there?

>> No.52832168

>>52827664
she's in vtweeter hell

>> No.52832461

>>52831668
I mean like fighting the CPU. Like Tekken’s treasure mode. Every time I look at a fighting game stream all I ever see are people playing online.

>> No.52832660

>>52831367
Ban them

>> No.52832886

>>52827664
The Elliot cock must be good.

>> No.52832950

>>52831367
Nigga no one gives a shit about lore.

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>>52831626
>>52831693
>>52832660
So I should treat kayfabe as a filter against normalfags? Holy fuck, makes sense.

>> No.52833058

>>52828049
>Also if I just play alone there is no commitment and I'll quickly drop the game to play another one
This is actually sort of the meta anyways. People who complete long single player games on stream tend to have a harder time getting an audience.

>> No.52833082

>>52831367
If they can't suspend their disbelief over a fictional character of a fictional universe then they probably won't enjoy vtubers

>> No.52833508

>>52832950
Lore is the basis for your character. If you aren't playing a character, there's no point in having an avatar. Lore doesn't have to be elaborate, and your viewers don't need to be well versed in it, but if you constantly break your character to talk about stuff, you might as well just be a flesh streamer.
One of the challenges is exactly that - come up with lore that is easy to get for new viewers. That's why the early Hololive lore, for example, is so good. Korone was initially just a dog in a bakery, and then she gradually added yokai stuff, which works for jokes, is known to the regulars, and makes her character more deep and interesting. Same with the idol corp girls - they all have simple premises that could be told in a single sentence, and the girls stick to it and reference it.

>> No.52834205

>>52833508
JP culture =/= EN culture nigga.

>> No.52834284

>>52834205
Culture has nothing to do with this.

>> No.52834321

>>52832968
lol yep

>> No.52834471
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>lore and keyfabe whatsoever

>> No.52834770

>>52824743
She's a huge slut and cheats on whoever you ship her with, because fiction is not that different from IRL

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Good morning awoomfies, today we're going to be trying out Crowd Control! It's a neat extension that lets you interact with the game as I play it, we're gonna test it out together in Contra! Starting in about 15 minutes!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>> No.52834778

which male is the most unhinged?

>> No.52835022

>>52834778
(You)

>> No.52835291

>>52834284
Nigger the most popular indie chuubas have no lore save for "hey I'm a WHATEVER THE FUCK who mainly plays videogames/does random shit while I talk about my daily life".

Fuck viewer_to_chuuba has nothing going for in term of lore other than haha funny mad scientist man.

>> No.52835861

>>52834778
I can still hear them crying when I close my eyes

>> No.52836822

>>52830841
Nevermind I found a prebuilt of the latest version on github itself, thanks god

>> No.52837295

>>52826862
Yeah I do discussions of academic papers on the weekends

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My voice is really monotone. It was over for me before it even began.

>> No.52838154

>>52827664
You don't get it anon, she still replies to tweets asking for PNGs, that must mean she's planning something right?

>> No.52838483

>>52835291
>the most popular indie chuubas
And by "chuubas" you mean Filian? Who gives so little fucks she streams with a default avatar?
You're bringing numbers to this discussion all of a sudden, alright, let's check the playboard.
Shibuya Hal is the top 1 indie vtuber at the moment, his lore is the world's strongest convenience store worker.
The next one is Iria Ashida, she is teaching conspiracy theories and urban legends at Trivia Academy.
The next one is Rakkun, a fugitive magical girl-raccoon from Raccoon City.
I dunno, pal, seems to me that indies in general respect the lore aspect.

>> No.52839047

>>52824298
Laine's is probably the best self-rigged one. Definitely up there overall too.

>> No.52839133

>>52838483
Almost replied. Good bait.

>> No.52839332

>>52837980
Seems like something you can practice and improve at. Try recording your voice and try injecting some emotion and pitch variance. Try imitating the way somebody who you enjoy listening to speaks.

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Hey guys, looking for some feedback.

I am struggling with making my gaming streams interesting, I feel like I'm just narrating what is happening on screen.

I don't know if any of you have watched my streams, but I would appreciate any feedback you have.

>> No.52841107

>>52839563
I dunno, you have anything you can talk about while also playing the game? Maybe talk about things you're thinking about as you're playing, rather than just what's up on screen?
Actually, you might consider coming up with a few topics to talk about before a game stream so you can have some stuff to bring up and ramble about while you're playing.

>> No.52841478

How has Denpa managed to surpass everyone else in her gen so fast?

>> No.52841498

Haru wears makeup, wears perfume, has dressed like a girl, sounds like he does, looks like he does and you're gonna tell me he's not a girl? He's asking for it.

>> No.52841503

>>52839563
all I know about you is that you're a fag who orbits coco

>> No.52841690

>>52841478
Hard work and shamelessness in self promotion and her streaming personality. She seriously streams a ton.

>> No.52841776

>>52841503
Yeah, she's the one that pushed me off my ass to try VTubing instead of just making youtube tutorials so I'm pretty thankful to her for that.

>>52841107
Perhaps my game choice is part of it, I'm playing a lot of thinking heavy games so my mind tends to not wander as much.

Watching other streamers they seem to play more "safe" games so they can spend more time musing about interesting things instead of the game.

Thanks for the advice!

>> No.52841861

>>52841107
It's pointless to talk about the game or yourself without anyone start talking to you at first

>> No.52842757

>>52841478
>zenya
>lcolonq
>beryl

>> No.52843058

>>52841776
There's something to be said for the appeal of watching someone puzzling out shit. If your mind isn't as free to wander, try to vocalize more of your thought process? Give the viewer some insight into what you're thinking about as you make choices.
I'm mosty just throwing shit out, of course. You're a bright lad, you'll work it out with some time, thought and effort.

>> No.52843253

>>52839563
Don't talk about what you see because we can all see it. Talk about what you're going to do, what you want to do. Make plans, discover things. Pretend you're just there with a friend and you're experiencing the game. If you start narrating you're finished.

>> No.52843682

>>52841478
She took my advice about leeching up and didn't waste her time on fake friendships

>> No.52844864

>>52841776
explain your thought process instead of the action

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