/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52556333
She started off as someone who appeared to be interested in more than just your average streamer-shit, but that never went anywhere and she dropped RPGmaker games and Warthunder for coombait and male collabs.
The rest is history.

>now
Damn, you're new

male collabs, but unironically

>>52556333
>Malesmalesmalesmalesmalesmales
>Ecelebs left and right
>Annoying voice
>Pretty much states she doesn't like Hololive and wants to change it

>>52556333
Isn't she still the most popular ID2?

>pander to e-celebs and ironic weebs
>E-celebs try to use you as an in into hololive
>Fail because most holos don't want to interact with cancer e-celebs
>Her debut buff starts fading
>E-celebs forget she exists because they can't use her anymore to gain clout
>Ironic weebs fuck off because she's not part of the e-celeb clique anymore
>the gachikoi Hololive audience hates her because of e-celeb chasing
>She's now irrelevant
Same shit is happening to Mori but at a way slower pace. Struggles to make 3k during normal gameplay streams.

>>52556333
Zoombie's fans apparently don't take /vt/'s bait well enough for the local schizos to keep shitposting.

>>52556333
Always has been.
Fuck off.

damn i actually feel sorry for her but i also refuse to watch EN or ID

Rice farmer hat

She’s not

>>52556926
Impressive fall.
And Look at Anya go! She passed up lofi.

>yubigate

>>52556333
She was already trending downwards but Kobo killed her.

I'll try to list all of the reasons she was declining;
>debuted as a high energy streamer
>revealed later on that it was all a lie and that her natural state is more relaxed/depressed and started streaming like that
>relied way too much on collabs, was annoying in said collabs, even matsuri got tired of her
>nepotism hired bae and zeta, due to their under performance, management most likely stopped listening to ollie afterwards
>is constantly playing games her audience is tired of
>face reveal on stream, completely killed it for many fans
>not just collabs with men, but forcing collab and shipping culture on other holomem and their communities

The gist of it is that ollie just doesn't come out with anything worth watching, she looked a gift horse in the mouth when she got into holoID and was popular, then proceeded to do everything but grow her own channel and foster long lasting fans.
Now girl's like Kobo have completely killed any appeal Ollie had and she's just in this perpetual state of being a tag along in ID collabs.

>>52558156
>face reveal on stream
It might be unfair but for her this was a killer

>>52556333
She was always irrelevant

>>52556926
>pander to e-celebs and ironic weebs
>E-celebs try to use you as an in into hololive
>Fail because most holos don't want to interact with cancer e-celebs
>Her debut buff starts fading
>E-celebs forget she exists because they can't use her anymore to gain clout
>Ironic weebs fuck off because she's not part of the e-celeb clique anymore
>the gachikoi Hololive audience hates her because of e-celeb chasing
>She's now irrelevant
Let me add something
>Said repeteadly she wanted to destroy the barrier between Holostars and Hololive
>Made an amongus tournament with Hololive and the ''surprise guesses'' who were holostars, none of the Holo girls knew in which there was fucking nene and lamy included, luckily the Stars found out what was going on and dipped
>Invited Connor out of nowhere to an apex collab she had with Moona in which the latter was clearly being akward because of her position

>>52558156
>>nepotism hired bae and zeta
real?

>>52556333
She tried too hard to shove into an eceleb space instead of embracing hololive. Also doesn't understand the principal of cgdct and is ugly as sin

>>52558635
Yeah she visited their streams a few times and were in the dm's before they joined hololive

>>52556333
Yubigate. The most powerful rrat this board ever came up with.
>meds
no

>>52556333
non shitpost answer
>plays nothing but kusoge, apex, overwatch, minecraft
>most of her collabs in 2022-2023 are Indies and ID
>every solo minecraft streams turn into ID collab thus btfod eop fans

This is peak brainrot
She’s holding probably 1500 ccv in the ID market. She’s known and collabed with Indies/Nijis/Holos. After Kobo and Moona is probably the most known HoloID

>>52556333
She competes with Zeta on CCV performance, making her the third/fourth most popular HoloID. How is that irrelevant?

Conor

>>52558156
>face reveal on stream
Was it intentional or an accident? That seems like the dumbest thing you could possibly do, unless you just happen to be extremely photogenic.

>>52558156
>face reveal on stream, completely killed it for many fans
There is no way this really happened

>>52559438
People try to argue it was an accident but the fact that she was wearing one of those welcome to the rice fields motherfucker hats it was most likely planned as a viral stunt that blew up in her face

>>52559120
Can't make up what clearly happened. I listened to that stream. Bitch is MOANING. Everyone else in the stream just went silent and was asking if she is ok.

>>52559438
Accident, she was doing a handcam stream and for some reason had a CD who's reflection face revealed
>>52559455
Very real, happened like a year ago? She's comically ugly

>>52559455
Type it into google, it's even more retarded than you think, it was most likely on purpose

>>52559455
The clip is on YouTube

why does she wear the hat

>>52559879
It’s a hoodie

>>52559879
It would be extremely painful if she took it off

>>52559604
>>52559688
>>52559767
LOL IT IS REAL. SHE LOOKS LIKE KIM JONG UN IN A FUCKING RICE HAT.
No wonder she wants to collab with the holofags all the time. She wants them cause she looks like a FOOT.

>>52559524
Well damn... Wonder if she talked with her manager about this or just did it on a lark. It sounds like she completely misunderstood the culture surrounding Hololive. Anyone could have told her this would be a bad idea.
Then again, Mori made it close to impossible to not see her RM if you followed her about two years ago, so perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised. I just never thought anyone would do it directly on-stream. There's a reason most of the girls are very careful with stuff like that.

>>52560027
It happened to haachama as well but that was an actual accident, ollie dislikes hololive's status quo and has always wanted to change it so it's highly probable it was intentional

>>52556733
This but without the unironically because I'm not a faggot

>>52560027
Anon…you really think Ollie and her manger sat down and said yeah show your face for some reason instead of the easier alternative that Ollie is retarded

>>52560027
I mean Mori's RM is pasable, but Ollie's is 35yo-obese-taiwanese-man-behind-anime-avatar levels of shocking

>>52560734
>Mori's RM is pasable

>>52560885
She has seasons of passable and unpassable. Just gotta lay off the alcohol.

>>52560972
Also helps when she loses the baggy clothes and shows off her gigantic tits

>>52558783
>doesn't understand the principal of cgdct
>>52560027
>she completely misunderstood the culture surrounding Hololive
I thought Ollie was one of the biggest hololive simps coming into hololive?
also
>>52560734
>Mori's RM is pasable
really nigga? if ollie is a 35yo taiwanese man then mori is a female danny devito dressed as a wannabe basketball american

>>52556333
I remember seeing her debut pinned in /jp/ 2 years ago, couldn't stand the voice, and haven't seen her since. IDK if she's changed since then but she left a really bad first impression.

>>52558635
Huh? but Zeta numbers is quite good for ID. Compared to Kaela and Kobo sure she is kinda underperforming. But 1-2k ccv average with 120k in supachat is not bad.

>>52561277
>I thought Ollie was one of the biggest hololive simps coming into hololive?
It's not exclusive to hololive, she just obsesses about other people
Probably has something to do with her childhood

>>52556333
>relied too much on fucking collab, bitch rarely do solo content and cultivate her own fanbase unlike her genmate.
>e-celeb cocksucker
>can't read atmosphere even in collab
>being a ''simp'' is her only personality
>also menhera
>doesn't know how to make content
>doesnt listen to her manager advice most of time

>>52556333
she was never relevant, she just spoke english at the peak of Myth's popularity
she never displayed the viewership of someone with 1million subs like the rest of EN and JP does

>>52561565
It's not bad at all, the same with bae, but with how many languages those girls can speak and their prior history, they were supposed to be break out stars

>>52559129
Real answer. She needs to go back to doing more creatividad content like that pop off duel with Risu.
>males
ID aren't unicorns. Rent fuckin free.

Ollie, I know you egosa here. Go back to your roots and keep trying new things. Don't let failures get you down. And do your idol reps. Outside a few songs, listening to you sing is frankly a torture.

>>52563046
Also, branding yourself as the Apex zoombie was a mistake, especially when Apex is a dying game right now.

>>52560885
>>52561277
Am sea so white devil women get a 30% bonus by default due to being exotic to me pls andastand

>>52561277
>I thought Ollie was one of the biggest hololive simps coming into hololive?
She was and still is. Bitch is a Vtuber simp in general.
Also mf nobody here on is banging models Mori is passable to the average person. Bitch is an easily a 4/5. Her tits make her a 3 alone

>>52563046
Ricefields

>>52563297
I've seen her and she and "Kiara" top Myth in RMs for me.

>>52563623
>Bitch is an easily a 4/5
>mori
Anon where do you live where everyone is that ugly, this isn't an unrealistic standard, you probably live in ohio or some other shithole
Her face is average midwestern girl at best
And her body is in a constant flux between uh to eugh

>>52564044
>she and "Kiara" top Myth in RMs for me.
Damn they all really ugly huh?

>The face reveal killed Ollie
Ill be honest Ollie isn't even THAT bad looking. People tried to claim she was hideous or whatever but people found other pictures of her and she looks fine. She doesn't even look that particularly awful in the accidental face reveal. There are way uglier Holo chuubas than Ollie.
>Muh homo collabs killed Ollie
Ehhhh I don't entirely think it's that simple. Ollie is basically ID Matsuri but maybe slightly less menhera. She was able to do mostly fine with the homo collabs because people expected that of her. Her saying she wanted to destroy the idol barriers though was disgustingly retarded on her part. She's never said that again at least so im guessing she probably realized how dumb of an idea that was
>So what killed Ollie's career?
A combination of various things happening together including Yubigate which caused Ollie to suffer rather noticeable anti attention in her comments/chat. Yes an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence and backing behind it, that came into existence from a single incredibly mentally ill person rewatching an old clip and horny posting it into reality, did in fact somehow manage to get big enough of sheer stupidity that it did noticeable harm to her career.

>>52556333
Reflection Yab ruined people's imagination of her

>>52564990
Kiara looks fine, Gura is pretty cute if the one picture in all of existence that people could find of her is still accurate, Ina is exactly what'd you expect Ina to be, Mori was hot once like 3 plus years ago (rip), and Ame looks like a pretty basic white girl. None are particularly ugly per say but none are standout gorgeous either.

Yeah I dont think she is too bad. She has a good personality and is entertaining enough. I think she can bounce back.

>>52563046
>ID's arent unicorns
that's the problem, tardo, her fans are mostly not from ID

>>52563623
Anon, standards here would have peak 20-30s Madonna, Jessica alba, shakira or whoever who caters to the pedos as a 2.5/5 at best. That said, Mori is 3 at best if you put a bag over her head and only into tits.

>>52565135
>There are way uglier Holo chuubas than Ollie
tell me the rrat

>>52565527
Why do people act like Mori is some disgusting slob with a fucked up face? The only problem with Mori is thats overweight. We've seen what she looks like when she's not overweight. She looks decent.

not going to lie, I would bang Ollie
twice

>>52565675
Haachama got harsher antis over her reflection yab than Ollie did. Ollie looks whatever based off that reflection. It was unflattering but so is basically every reflection ever. It's always gonna look warped to some degree. It's a fucking reflection on some plastic. Its always been weird to me people see a reflection yab of a distorted image of a vtuber and just decide that's how they look normally and don't even consider the fact the image is going to be distorted to some degree.

>>52565456
Ollie has very few ID fans because she spoke 95% english in her early streams and when IDtards in chat complained about it she fucking exploded on them and called them lazy uneducated insects and told them to go learn english (she was correct and based to do this). That kinda obliterated her ID fans on the spot.

>>52565828
This pretty much, Ollie's actual face she's actually pretty cute

>>52565828
Ollie looks fine. She's obviously on the heavier side of a SEA girl just off her hands and reflection but like, she'd probably be fairly average sized in the US or even EU for that matter. She's hardly morbidly obese or anything. She has a cute face and a really cute menhera personality which is really all that matters desu

>>52558635
Yup. I don't really think it's a bad thing though.

>>52565304
>Ame
>White

>>52565828
>Haachama got harsher antis over her reflection yab than Ollie did.
Haachama was used to aussie tier bully bantz so she took it in stride.
She took down the video, redid the entire thing, including where she "accidentally" revealed her face. Except this time it showed she was wearing a gorilla mask the entire stream, and then she acted like she was worried because it was her own face that was showing.
Haachama... she was great.

>>52566369
>le epic Ame is actually a spic rrat
>no proof whatsoever of this being the case and she looks like a basic white bitch
>even if she was mixed, most hispanics are so white passing that you'd never know anyways
Such a tiring and pointless rrat.

>>52566447
it's not fucking fair... I miss her so fucking much

>>52566481
Anon, Ame isn't white, she's British

>>52560734
Mori's RM is hot I stand by this

Ollie looks like that guitar hero youtuber kek

desu I think Ollie has a very hot personality. You know she'd be an absolutely incredible fuck just off how menhera she is. She'll do basically anything out of sheer desperation and that's pretty fucking hot desu

>"she isn't that Bad looking"
I feel sorry for SEA people

>>52566767
I need you to understand that you are basing her appearance off an extremely distorted half visible reflection of herself through shiny plastic where half of it is her stupid rice field hat. It's distorted to hell and back. The same fucking thing happened to Haachama.

>>52566853
jp holos describing the IDs they met:
>Moona's so beautiful
>Kobo's so cute
>I met Ollie

ADHD + Zombie + Flat + Over-the-top hair debuff
Topics of interest are too divisive, too. On one hand she yuribaits hard to the point where she just looks like a masochistic pushover and comedic cuck whenever the girls reject her, on the other hand she's trying to get action on with the HoloStars as well, trying to piss off unicorns.
Her new outfits were also extremely... "why", like the fucking Naruto headband. I could go on about this, but only one more thing:
When your personality trait known in the community is "ADHD", you make for a decent collab partner but not for a solo casual streamer.

>>52567527
I've 100% seen Holo members refer to Ollie as being cute before.

>>52566369
I have heard her spanish, if she is raza then she is probably third gen, at that point she has more big mac sauce on her blood stream than most people itt, shes as american as it gets

Pls yagoo bring me my aztec goddess chubba already im tired of "poortoorican" chubbas Hakka doesnt fucking count

Ohhh... we're back on zombie hating now? I guess it's to be expected since ZomG thread is dead now
Let's just wait for HoloSummer and witness the clockwork running again

>>52569623
Go and watch her instead of defending her in 4chan. She is unironically at the bottom of the ID branch when she has over a million views. Actually fucking grim

>>52569785
how about you go and watch her before making up shitpost. it would make whatever shits come out of your mouth more believable

>>52557939

I want to watch her but she can’t stop speaking Star Wars.

>>52569623
sorry but Gura bait threads are kinda dead, Kronii baits don't get enough reply and Mori risks getting you banned.

>>52563046
>Ollie, I know you egosa here.
The funny thing is I remember someone leaked the cut of her membership stream where she said management told her not to visit sites like Facebook and 4chan. But, Ollie visited Facebook anyway and she was surprised that it isn't as toxic as imagined.

>>52556333
>kept playing apex even though she was terrible at it - IMO this was by-far the main factor
>started treating apex as like a mixer social game - it fucking, is not, you play it to play it not to dicksuck, I can see why nips deride people treating it as a "dating game" now
>bent over backwards for eceleb shit including connor, remember that?
>started doing male collabs

All that combined to kill a ton of good will. She also was super enthusiastic about tons of shit she just knows nothing about, sort of like if Bae had snorted a handful of crack and was extra-screechy/loud. I recall her debut distinctly, she came across as someone who didn't know anything about Holo and spent like 1 week watching clips about famous JPs/ENs looking for quotable shit to repeat to redditors and they fell for it hook line sinker. She doesn't actually know or care a lot about Hololive vs ecelebs.

>>52565828
I thought white people likes someone with face like Ollie because it's exotic.
It's the SEA kind of cute, you guys might be repulsed by it but remember that your grandpa thought that Japanese looked ugly too.

A few decades from now when SEA countries have more global cultural influence your kids may dream of having SEA girlfriend just like you guys dreaming of having Japanese gf right now.

>piss of Indo audience by telling them to fuck off if they can't speak English
>EN2 debut steals your English speaking fans
There done.

>>52566660
Same. I'll get behind this and Kiara's too.

>>52568013
Proof?

>>52566660
>>52570621
The absolute state of EN.
t. Towa, Meru and Nene RM appreciator.

She always was.

Unironically I dropped that bitch when she had that talk about wanting to “change Hololive” or some shit. Retarded bitch if you wanted a different work environment then fuck off.

>>52559971
4u

>>52572435
>Anon dropped Ollie
>Trash Taste dropped Ollie
You are...

>>52560734
naw she a bad bitch nocap

>>52563623
moris probably the hottest roommate of myth. don't know about ina's but korean so yikes

>>52565135
I've seen the other pics. Relatively chonky but not fat. Explains how she was able to carry other ID girls. Sure, doesn't match her bony thin zombie model, but I think big strong genki girls are cute.

>>52556926
The case of Ollie vs Kaela, Kobo and Zeta shows why HoloEN is absolutely scared shitless of an EN3
>Will I be the EN Ollie?

Ollie is a cutie and she means well, but I just won’t watch anyone who collabs with the holostars

>>52556333
Kobo, Kaela and EN2 happened. Plain and simple.

>>52565135
>Yes an extremely retarded schizo rrat with zero evidence and backing behind it
https://files.catbox.moe/pnvq8g.webm

>>52565304
Anon, if you look at Mori’s RM account’s photos and her recent selfies - including the athletic wear tweet and that one of her and a romper - and still try to tell me with a straight face that she’s an uggo, you’re the world’s biggest faggot.

>>52559120
i need an archive of that shit

but at the same time, no fucking way that's real

>>52574447
She's still looking pretty hefty compared to a few years back.
All the hot en girls are in Council.

>>52556333
face reveal debuff

>>52574440
And the YT link
https://www.youtube.com/live/xxD9Z5nN4TM?feature=share&t=7320

>>52574622
Refer to >>52574440 and the link above. Literally just listen and decide for yourself

>>52556926
>lower than Iofi
crazy

>>52559604
am i fucking retarded or she really looks like kson there

>>52574440
this woman is fucking crazy and i am all for it

this is some mikeneko type of shit

>>52569849
Man I'm so happy to still have her around

>>52571992
most JP roommates I have seen are actually hella cute

>>52574908
She was clearly pleasuring herself. What's wrong with that? It's hot!

>>52564364
I finally had to check out what she looks like because everyone always make it sound like she's some kind of sea monster. And surprise, surprise. She looks completely normal
But of course, all the 10/10 perfect human beings from 4chin expect that they deserve only literal 100/10 sex god beauty models.

>>52574440
Does she have an alt where she does ASMR schlicking? I would pay for that shit

>>52574440
Holy shit. Reine clearly uncomfortable. Anya saying it's not the time and then outright asking to end stream. FUCK. What the hell Ollie.

>>52559455

>>52574440

>>52556333
The better question is why was she ever relevant. What did she bring to the table that other vtubers couldn't offer you?

>>52558555
Nene and Lamy don't collab with Stars, or do they just have bad experiences with men in general?

>>52558555
You mixing up Among Us and Apex.
Among Us was supposed to be big collab with representatives of each Gen of ID, EN and HomoJP with whatever HoloJP was willing to do it. The problem was that Ollie was fixated on bringing up Irys as Project Hope representative. Homos bailed out and it end up as girls only collab with some girls added as replacement for them.
The Apex one was a tourney divided into Holo, Homo and mixed parts. And this is the part where Nene comes in, since it's clear she didn't know about existence of later 2 and with fact that Ollie didn't revealed who was in which part, made her go a little menhera over this.
Also neither had Lamy.

>>52575342
Yeah that's what really pisses me off.
Bitch, don't do that shit on a collab.

>>52571992
Towa and Nene RM I agree.
But Calli/Kiara has something different.

Meru..kinda average.

>>52569849
deliciously flat

>>52574644
Looking at you, towl!

>>52574440
This shit was so hot before >>52575451 happened. Then it became disgusting, and the downfall of the face reveal had my kikebook account deleted.
While some would compare Ollie's fall from grace to Matsuri's, I's say Matsuri's is nowhere near as bad. Matsuri did have a change between seiso and coomer, but it came in pretty early, remained constant, and really only helped to make her popular with that demographic. RM has been chubby for a jap, but she also goes back to normal weight, and she's cute enough.
There's two definite reasons that caused Matsuri to fall off: Apex addiction (including a breakdown where she told her audience they could fuck off if they didn't want her to play Apex, and they did fuck off), and lyger literally harassing anyone else who wanted to make clips of her. She could have had some western coomer apex fans if he hadn't been suck a stalker.
Then there's Ollie. Comes in as a huge fan of both vtubers and idols. Genki as fuck, but seiso. Then gets revealed as a coomer with yubigate - and back then, the rrat was, it was not her finger but her boyfriend, or even her brother because indogs tend to fuck their siblings or something like that. I didn't mind that much back then though - she was still a big advocate for idol culture in the company. A coomer like Matsuri and an exhibitionist, sure, but she still had, I assumed, sovl.
And then she said she wanted to destroy Hololive. That she wanted to be a bridge that idols took to freedom or some retarded shit like that. That's when I dropped and sold all the tokens of her I had in nasfaq. And I wasn't the only one who left. She dipped hard when she did that.
But she didn't stop. Started collabing hard with Connor. Started forcing or tricking other hololives who don't wanna do male collabs, into also joining in with her male collabs. Started literally harassing and stalking Holostars in Apex. Face reveal, she looks like a 40 year old fat rice farmer of the darkest skinned possible variety, hat included - granted, it was most likely a fabric safari hat, but it still looked like a rice farmer hat, which was hilarious. She dipped even more with each incident, and the face reveal was the last stroke for a huge majority of her fanbase. The ones who didn't care for purity and were there for the coomer bait. The ones who came in droves to cry, I remember at least like 10 here saying they'd been filtered by her extremely ugly face. How they'd regularly fapped to yubigate and now they were absolutely disgusted.
And that was, what, a year ago? The dip was real, and she's never recovered. Nor does she deserve to, because the cunt had her people nuke my account just because I made fun of her ugly face on faceberg.

>>52575866
Why didn't Ollie ask Lillianne instead of IRyS? She never had a problem with HomoJP collabs

>>52575683
I dont think they are, they just simply have no interest with male collab because they aimed for gachikoi audience.If you're looking for Holos who are genuinely hesitant (scared)about collaborating with males, look at Kanata. She frequently mentions how she avoids interacting with males in real life. Even Lamy and Nene don't go to such extremes.
>>52575866
I absolutely hate Ollie for this, she truly can't read atmosphere and truly trojan horse. at least be detailed with the tourney.
She don't realize she might've hurt the homos too if she's not careful, they might get targeted from schizo or unicorn.
also imagine if Kanata also joined it, she might be giga menhera than minecraft tourney debacle.

>>52574440
Who came up with the rrat that someone else was getting her off? She probably fingered herself

>>52576359
>Meru..kinda average.
How the fuck can you say this but like Kiara and Mori?

>>52576579
>the cunt had her people nuke my account just because I made fun of her ugly face on faceberg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52556333
Because she's infatuated in sucking my dick.

>>52576359
>>52576777
NTA but Meru needs to put on at least 10-15 pounds. This isn't even hating on her being too thin, but her chest is just too small. With a bit of extra weight and maybe good genetics puts all that extra weight -there- then she would be damn hot for sure.

>>52577968
Architect sama pls go.

>>52575451
Kek

>>52578147

>>52560734
>Mori's RM is pasable
Either way, it contributed to me dropping her. It's not even just about whether you're pretty or not, it just creates this dissonance that you don't get otherwise. The illusion breaks a bit.
But yes, I remember seeing a clip of a handcam stream Ollie did and her hands were kind of meaty. I wondered why she would do a handcam stream when she knew that she looked very different from her avatar, but it sounds like that was just a prelude.

>>52578228
>The illusion breaks a bit.
Handcam streams should only be a thing if they can match the skin tone and cosplay as their avatar.

>>52578197

>>52560623
You're probably right, I guess I just imagined that Hololive ran a tighter ship. You sometimes get stories from people in EN that managers are on your ass 24/7.
It can't have been a fun conversation to have after the fact. Mane-san probably told her that this would undoubtedly affect her channel moving forward, and unsurprisingly they were correct.

>>52556333
mirror yab

>>52556333
Simple: She's boring.
Apart from occasional outbursts, the eccentric personality she showed in her debut didn't really carry into her streams. Her talks, while cozy, were bland.
She began bleeding viewers, and what did she do? Play Apex almost exclusively.
The only hype streams I recall are Henry Stickmin (the first in a long time) and special celebrations. But beyond that, it was Apex streams ad nauseam. Her bored fans dropped her and she has not been consistently Kureiji enough to draw them back in.

>>52556333
She was a Holo fan menhera who got finger fucked on stream and then did a bunch of male collabs, not surprised the unicorns don't really care about her

>>52565135
Yubigate only happened because she started collabing with Connor and it pissed some people off. Before that she was /vt/'s darling and "a better Kiara".

>>52556333
when the corpos will understand that once you refuse a person, you don't even look at the next request from that person, i don't understand how she managed to get approval after so many refusals

>>52562299
>she never displayed the viewership of someone with 1million subs like the rest of EN and JP does
I get this is a shit on Ollie thread but can't this be said for all of ID? Only Moona and Kobo got 1+ million subs but they don't bring much better numbers than Ollie, outside their music releases.

>>52576777
Mel is too bony for my taste. If its just body itd be fine but it carries onto her face too...

And can you please accept the fact not all who consume Japanese media see Japanese women as the be-all, end-all in beauty, Ken-sama?

>>52573163
Granted these are my personal tastes but when Mori cleans herself up properly and drops a bit of weight, she is definitely hottest Myth member. Out of all of EN I'd tie her with Mumei for 2nd overall, just behind Bae.

>>52558156
>>is constantly playing games her audience is tired of
Honestly this, zoombie tends to have little variety in game streams which often times makes the few single-player games she does play last for fucking ever, and the few games she rushes are usually
>Minecraft
>APE SEX

>>52575451
is that twomad? Ollie is twomad?

>>52556333
In Hololive, no one is stuck in irrelevancy.
Ask Suisei and Miko. They will always have access to the support needed to succeed.
Now if were in Niji, would have been abandoned long ago.

>>52579119
I didn't say Japanese women were the be-all, end-all architect-sama. I said the hottest girls in Hololive are all in the JP branch. For the record it's impossible for Japanese people to achieve peak beauty as the most attractive traits are white people traits. The best look is pale skin, black hair and blue/green eyes. Japanese have great hair, but their skin isn't pale enough and they lack the eye colours. I'm not some weeb who thinks Japanese girls are perfection, I just think the JP branch has the best looking girls in hololive, it's a small sample not representative of my actual tastes.

>>52565135
>Ill be honest Ollie isn't even THAT bad looking. People tried to claim she was hideous or whatever but people found other pictures of her and she looks fine. She doesn't even look that particularly awful in the accidental face reveal. There are way uglier Holo chuubas than Ollie.
I'd also chalk it up to a bad angle with her looking down, appearing to 'add' weight to her face. If you see some of her prior pictures she is pretty cute if you're into that type of thing. Possible that she may have put on some weight with the new streamer lifestyle but then again her dancing at HoloFes is not suggestive of someone that out of shape.

>>52565693
This, when she is firing on all cylinders like she was in some of those old photos of hers, she is a solid 8.5 in my books.

>>52576579
I haven't seen her body, but Matsuri's face is very cute. First time I've been unsure of whether the model or the RM is more attractive. (Matsuri's model has some cool expressions, but her design feels pretty generic.)

I bet Ollie fucks like a fighter jet

>>52579646
>when she is firing on all cylinders like she was in some of those old photos of hers
you're arguing on hypotheticals, anon. yes, she looked good when she didn't let herself go. but now she doesn't and looks like shit as a result.

>>52579048
Hololive loves that shit, just look at Nene or Lui. And it seems to work out most of the time too. Ollie is just a special case.

>>52579663
She has a tiktok where she shows how she uses filters to make her round face leaner. That said, you're right, even her real round face is cute enough.

>>52556333

Olivia and her insufferable disregard for professionalism are proof that everyone who supported her post debut has no standards and only dropped her after she exposed herself as a deformed hambeast. Indogs, coomers, tourists and e-celeb npcs were willing to accept masturbating on stream, male collabs, political and corporate subversion to covers detriment and more just for a crumb of that precious zombie poon. Until nobody wanted thar greasy zombie poon no more.

In my opinion this is almost as bad as unironic homobeggars. Ollie got what she deserved and so did her *fans*.

>>52579075
Kaela and Kobo are the only world-class streamer in ID, and while I greatly respect the former, she relies heavily on the hard work she puts in.

>>52558156
>>face reveal on stream, completely killed it for many fans
Ah yes, the twomad arc. Fun times

>>52579412
>The best look is pale skin, black hair and blue/green eyes
Almost, but hair color is very arguable. Blonde is almost universally admired, and people love redheads too. That's not to say that black isn't beautiful, but I'd say the biggest thing about japanese hair is that it tends to be straight and silky, whereas many redheads have natural curls.

>>52580003
You're right, filters make everything harder to gauge these days. The video I saw was not on tiktok but youtube. (Her RM channel.) To my eyes it didn't look heavily filtered, but there's always makeup and asian women are truly wizards with that shit.

>>52580349
/video/6848131691135962370

>>52580349
>asian women are truly wizards with that shit
No shit they have physical attachments like tapes to change their face and eye shape and then caulk it up

>>52570514
>your kids may dream of having SEA girlfriend
If my son wanted to date a SEAgirl or, even worse, if my daughter wanted to date a Seaman, thay would be found dead floating down the Thames.

>>52558635
people parrot this a lot but Ollie interacts with a shit ton of indies and small corpos, her interacting with two small chuubas from the time was something common, them happening to later join hololive is not the same as nepotism hiring

>>52582407
Yeah, her saviorfagging almost as bad as iofi at that times

>>52583009
Iofi gave us Pochi who gave us Reine's god tier design.

>>52583083
And then Pochi had the mental breakdown of the decade.

>>52583124
QRD? I thought she was just physically ill?

>>52583167
I'd seen the details in /a/, but I ain't checking the archive now because I haven't watched the last episode of Witch From Mercury and don't want to get spoiled.

>>52570514
> And don't forget to tell your friend it's cool to have non-white girlsfriends, goyim

>>52583342
How old is this because I didn’t see shit. Just /a/ tards talking about her art

>>52584118
Not older than a month. Axed/hiatus thread.

>>52575451
Why is this Ollie doxxposting still around?
Do the mods hate Ollie as much as Pomu or something, leaving up images that are clearly her for hours on end?

>>52574735
you are fucking retarded

>>52556333
She's a luminary in the talking about Iofi's fat ass subgenre of vtubing, definitely not irrelevant

>>52556333
for me it's that i can hear that there's no confidence in her voice. i swear that didnt exist before and it was just a matter of getting over the energy she had. but now it's like you can hear that she's so uncertain about everything, hyperfocused on how it will be received, how many viewers she's getting, what the reaction to things are and hey hyper focusing on that shit and having this trembling voice and having this ah gee maybe we could do it differently voice in regards to everything makes me aware of that shit, makes me focus on the numbers, and the reception to everything and aware that it's not going great because why would it be, and i don't fucking want that

>>52585110
Going from #1 to #last could do that to anyone.
She always did remind me a bit of Kiara in her behavior, so numberfagging when behind is no surprise.

>>52585110
I actually like Ollie, but she 100% did it to herself like most of ID.
>Be ID
>Go for EN audience
>EN leaves for EN2
>ID now pissed

You know how people hated Kiara/IRyS switching to/from Japanese and English? ID never seemed to notice people hate that because most of their viewers only speak one language and it's jarring to go from something you understand to something you don't.

I mean she could make it back, Kaela isn't my thing but her commitment to the grind is paying off. Her issue is people already have impressions of her, and now there are shit tons more vtubers.
If Ollie does read this, you should have stayed away fron Connor. Not because he's a male, but just because he's an e-celeb, and given you haven't collabed recently it seems he's looking to others for muh content, e-celebs are leaches like that.

>>52556333
Trend chaser also bisexual. Just be straight ffs.

>>52585562
>You know how people hated Kiara/IRyS switching to/from Japanese and English?
No? EOPs can be ignored.
That said, I do remember Ollie talking shit at her indog audience, so she indeed gets what she fucking deserves. I mean, I agree with her. The language sounds disgusting. But she culled her main market with that retarded move.

>>52556926
Her fleshtuber and other e-celeb chasing filtered me. The Connor shit is still enraging to this day. Should have just stayed with HolostarsJP/EN.