/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>52401233
Actually true.
Except Froot, that shit is nasty. Worse than anything Enna or Kyo has ever done

>>52401233
i wouldnt be so sure about that chief

>>52401233
True

>>52401233
>twitter troons hating silvervale and anyone who enjoys her
>vei saying retard because its "le edgy" angers them more
>nyanners cant decide on whether shes pro or anti loli
>froot trans donation incident
>froot cheating scandal
>zen still just being a babiniku and everyone refusing that he is
>scooped up one of the most parasocial unicorn pandering JP vtubers to exist, despite having people in the group who vocally despise it
>most rigged and fake "applications" ever
>deer motherfucker that got hired was the one who pressured pomu to talk about her tits surgery for no reason
anything i miss?

>>52401233
can't believe there was a worst company than vshojo, and Nijisanji is japanese and popularized live streaming! they lost to a group of western whores, nepotism hires, and has beens.

>>52401233
Nah, both are shit.

>>52401681
All of this is true and they STILL have a better reputation than Nijisanji.

>>52401707
both are indeed shit but can't argue vhoejo pay better than nijisanji.

>That entire fiasco with Nux
>Three of there streams leaving for unclear reasons, allowing rrats to form
>Kson
No.

>>52401718
It's because VShojo just has shit talents, meanwhile Nijisanji has shit talents AND shitty management.
Everyone memes on Kson talking about there being no drawbacks to being in VShojo, but it's a hell of a lot better than most black companies.

>>52401837
Most people like Kson.

>>52401974
He’s Chinese

>>52401974
liked* former fans don't hate her, but don't like her as much as Coco due to her returning to fleshtubing and collabing with people fans don't care about, most went neutral and left.

>>52402155
No, Kson is still well regarded.

>>52401233
i dont watch either but i'd rather trust a blacked company than a company full of whores

>>52402625
like i said, former fans don't hate her. "well regarded" because you listening to the hugbox of gachikois that will stay no matter how much her streams changes.

>>52401233
Niji shot themselves in the foot when they decided to go after drama vtubers.
Drama vtubers have the majority of the Reddit/Twitter vtuber community popular opinion on their side.
On the other hand Vshojo literally have False in their pocket. For exemple the counter journalism move he did against Ant made everyone forget that Froot is a horrible person. And Eyes now has a hateboner for Niji, so he shits on them every time he can.
So even with the same amount of drama and retarded decisions, Niji's reputation will always appear worse

>>52401681
>pomu tits surgery
i don't pay attention to nijisanji shit, qrd?
she troon'd out, had a size reduction or got implants?

>>52404071
I believe it was cancer or something similar. She had to have them lopped off.

>>52404071
No anon, she had breast cancer. No for real, that's why haruka being a stupid retard making pomu talk about it on a collab stream that was a total trainwreck rubbed people the wrong way.

>>52404071
breast cancer, and this was 2 years ago

>>52404492
>>52404508
>>52404455
Oh, poor girl then, I will now empathize with pomu, but won't watch nijisanji.

>>52404492
Isn't Haruka a legitimate aspie though? Would give reason for why she was retarded enough to bring it up.

>>52403056
nobody cares about seething third worlders

>>52401233
OPs comparing turds literally
>This ones packed with nuts
>While this ones full of corn

>>52403264
all of this completely irrelevant when most of their market is from Japan, about 80%, unlike vshojo where their market is almost entirely EN.
None of this matter if the company is successful and makes money, which is what will happen.

>>52402625
>Kson is still well regarded

She did the Akira Slide, so...!:

>>52405308
We're not talking about "success and money" here. We're talking about reputation.

>>52404991
what are you even on about? you retarded?

>>52401233
Go back Falseyed.

>>52401419
Unfortunately. FPBP. Like if you kicked her out, I could tolerate them more. As it stands right now, I only watch Henya and refuse to watch any Collab shit because I know any second that whore will pop up and act like she totally didn't try to throw her and her past coworkers under the bus a few months ago.

>>52401233
They really don't.

>>52401681
>despite having people in the group who vocally despise it
Sucks to suck

>>52404975
She does have autism and didn't go public about it until several months after that collab.

The last straw

>>52404071
Pomu had preventative surgery in an unspecified location. Preventative surgeries are often recommended for people who have a genetic disposition for, and family history of, developing certain cancers. In other words, "you have a gene that gives you 80% chance of developing cancer here, you should probably get that ticking time bomb removed." Pomu never said if it was for a cancer risk or some other non-cancer reason, or said where the surgery was being performed. Could be tits, could be ovaries, could be womb, could be, hell, the appendix, who knows. However it was, to most people, obviously a sensitive topic that she didn't want to share too many details about.

Meanwhile, Haruka has actual, legit, medically diagnosed, literal, no cap, fr fr, autism. Haruka is autistic. During a big collab that included Pomu, Haruka was interested in the reason for Pomu's upcoming surgery break and kept pressing her to divulge details about it live on stream, unaware of how uncomfortable she was making Pomu.

>>52401233
I still don't understand what happened that lead to Silverwolf, Nyanners and Veibae to gtfo.

>>52418011
Haruka just thought Pomu had something she needed to get off her chest.

>>52418011
A famous example of preventative cancer surgery is Angelia Jolie, who had a double mastectomy after testing positive for the breast cancer timebomb gene. She got breast implants afterwards.

>>52401233
phase >>>>>> holo >>>>> shit >>>> vshojo >>>>>> niji

>>52418474
The only phase that has a good reputation is Tenma.
And she's great, but she has to deal with the inherent negative reputation of being in Phase.

>>52401233
Yes and no. People blame the individuals in Vshojo and the company in Nijisanji. I guess that's the upside of "talent freedom" all the blame goes on them and not your company.

>>52419192
People hate many of the individuals plenty in NijiEN.

>>52401681
Now list everything wrong with NijiEN

>>52418011
>During a big collab that included Pomu, Haruka was interested in the reason for Pomu's upcoming surgery break and kept pressing her to divulge details about it live on stream
This literal didn't happen. She just took the floor made an awkward comment mentioning the surgery and wished Pomu good luck. I don't even watch or care about Haruka anymore, but every time it's retold you people love to amp up the details. I'm waiting until someone tries to claim that she made fun of Pomu's tits to the point that it drove her to tears.

>>52418794
Uruka has a good reputation retard

>>52407924
reputation dont kill a company, not making money does

>>52403264
I have no clue who the fuck any of these people are

>>52401233

>>52401681
>>froot cheating scandal
still no evidence, remove that one

>>52401681
>deer motherfucker that got hired was the one who pressured pomu to talk about her tits surgery for no reason
deeply socially autistic and she cried about her sperg out moments after the collab ended.

>>52406841
i still think kson is badass because of this animation and have not consumed any kson content since

>>52418082
"more appealing contracts"
The real reasons will either be revealed at some point or never. Pink love in complete shambles.

>>52401681
>twitter troons hating silvervale and anyone who enjoys her
Not a yab for vshojo, just typical twitter troon stuff.

>vei saying retard because its "le edgy" angers them more
It's in the rules of Twitch, so it's not a yab that Vshojo also makes them follow it when they stream on that platform.

>nyanners cant decide on whether shes pro or anti loli
not a yab either way

>froot trans donation incident
That's the only real yab here and people still blow it out of proportion sometimes.

>froot cheating scandal
Exaggerated.

>zen still just being a babiniku and everyone refusing that he is
Not a yab even if Zen is a babiniku.

>scooped up one of the most parasocial unicorn pandering JP vtubers to exist, despite having people in the group who vocally despise it
It's not a yab because people have different ideas, morals and ambitions and it didn't even end up in harassment.

>most rigged and fake "applications" ever
It's not a great look to not hire anybody after a campaign like that sure. But there's no promise being broken.

>deer motherfucker that got hired was the one who pressured pomu to talk about her tits surgery for no reason
She's an autist and pomu could have declined.

>>52418143

>>52420467
To add, before the collab even happened Pomu mentioned herself she'd be having surgery. Haruka didn't say anything that wasn't already said by Pomu, but schizos still harassed her about it to the point that Pomu had to address it.

>>52401233
>my turd smells less!!!

>>52401233
Not hard to do when Niji is digging themselves a hole through the core of the Earth.

>>52422738
Pomu did decline, which is why Haruka was the one who ended up talking about it

>>52422738
this post reeks of seethe
go back to /vsj+/ and complain there isnt enough react content.

>>52401233
because most of the dramawhores like veibae leave.
doesn't mean vwhorejo is good as long that whore froot is there, they're still shit company.

>>52418794
Seems like a cunt to me

>>52424599
>this post reeks of seethe
the irony
Post real yabs next time, retard

the unironic tranny support makes them irredeemable in my book. they also lost their most interesting talent.

You
Will
Never
Have
Her

>>52426451
thank god

Blackpill me on Niji

>>52401233
Debatable
Both have a bitch ruining it for everyone (Froot/Enna)
Both have an unbearable LGBT shitter (Zen/Uki)
Both lost/losing pivotal streamers (Nyanners/Nina)
Both got rid of their annoying retards (Veibae/Zaion)
Both have some random ass japanese people doing god knows what (Kson and Naname/Kotoka and Meloco)
Only difference so far is that Niji has bad rep for their management, whereas Vshojo has a bad rep of just having drama baiting bitches

>>52401233
Vshojo reputation is joke for many reasons, but them at least not a black copro...

>>52427000
Niji killed my wife, stole my crops, and burned my house down

>>52422717
Wrong, Nyan collabed with Mouse for 8 hours a few days ago

>>52401681
>nyanners can't decide on whether shes pro or anti-loli
funny you include this since she's had this issue for more than a decade now

>>52427071
>all of this
Is wrong for both Niji and Shojo, except Enna and Froot
You're not even on threadreader lvl

>>52427299
She's pro if it will get her revenue (infamous song, playing Neko game) and against it when she needs to drama bait for views (SocMed or "taking a stand")
Benedict Arnold himself would call her a flip-flopping bitch traitor

>>52427302
Go back to your sub 1k count viewers Zaion

>>52427071
>Both lost/losing pivotal streamers (Nyanners/Nina)
I like Nina but calling her pivotal is debatable at best, considering that Ethyria were infamously the shitters of NijiEN until Iluna came along.
>Both got rid of their annoying retards (Veibae/Zaion)
Veibae left of her own accord, along with Silvervale and Nyanners. Saying Vshojo got rid of her makes it clear you're intentionally being misleading.

>>52427540
Nina basically coddled Luxiem in to the limelight by being unrelenting on her collabs with them, which then led to her hosting all those Indie/Nijisanji collab games like Crab Game and some others. She might not be pivotal like Lazulight was, but she definitely made sure everyone knew her name in as many spheres as possible
I was gonna say "Both were relieved of their retards" but i felt it sounded to....novel-esque?

>>52427833
>Indie/Nijisanji collab games like Crab Game
wasn't Vshojo in most of those too

>>52427884
Yup, there were alot of other organizations in there as well but i was just going to condense it to "Niji & Livers+"

Three of their members leaving over contract disputes isn't controversy. Chasing money is what any reasonable person ought to do. That means VShojo's only real controversy is Froot.
So that's one dumb bitch against... fuck, what is Niji at now? Of course they have a better rep and saying otherwise is delusion.

>>52427979


>>52401681
Not including
>The entire Veibae/Nyanners drama over collabing with Kiara
>Veibae almost shutting down all Holo collabs over her rant about corpo life
>Kson blocking all Holo and Niji or any person with aspirations to collab with the formers

There's plenty of drama, graduations are ass but lets not pretend Vshojo was on the straight and narrow

>>52428104
Veibae and Nyanners are gone now. Their controversies no longer apply. That means your point about Kson is also invalidated, but I'll give it to you for the sake of fairness.
That's two. Two total.

>>52428104
>Kson blocking all Holo and Niji
yeah i can't believe she would do that to the poor innocent billion dollar companies
they have done nothing wrong to her and she just goes and blacklists them using her massive influence and resources
when will her spree of terror end

>>52425974
>they also lost their most interesting talent
Mythic Talent is scooping up all of the notable Twitch vtubers at this point, The only way Vshojo can grow now is by adopting graduated vtubers.

>>52401233
If you conveniently keep forgetting their biweekly yabs sure

>>52428659
That is a gigantic list of whos
I thought mythic was supposed to just be huge streamers giving each other the reach around

>>52428659
what the fuck, I had no idea it got this big. that's almost everyone
also kek at nyanners being right next to nux

>>52428854
what happened this week that got your panties in a bunch?

>>52401233
The fact that the group was funded by so many abhorred individual means that it will forever be disliked on this board. Most people just don't care since their sphere of influence has zero overlap with this board and it's mostly Hololive roots.

>>52401233
who doesn't?

>>52422717
>better contracts
Vei is literally a 3k streamer when she was 11k in vsj
Sweet justice for traitors

>>52401681
vshojoJP is still an unironically better branch than nijiEN

>>52420899
Yes but that's not the point of the fucking thread you turbo autist

>>52428946
No, they hand the name out like candy to literally anyone they can get to take it.

>>52401233
Vshojo doesn't really have a better reputation than Nijisanji. It's just that Nijisanji keeps fucking up so hard and so often that /vt/ is beginning to forget that Vshojo even exists.

>>52401233
That is not a high bar to achieve

>>52401233
eh

>>52420756
Most of phase doesn't even have a reputation because they are so small-time. Tenma is the only one that has a reputation and that reputation is good. Most of the rest that are recognizable as phase connect talents are recognizable for bad reasons (Lia's cucking chat, Wontons, Lumi drama, Pippa etc).

>>52422274
Quit shitposting.

>>52401233
>3 of the 4 most controversial members left
>2 former Hololive members and Pikamee joined
I wouldn't say their reputation here is good, per se, but yeah, now that's happened and they've never had any management->talent yabs (just pointless stupid twitter/discord drama bullshit and the whole 2nd gen auditions scam), I can see that only the most bitter hangers-on here are going out of their way to treat them the way most anons treated them a year ago. Even the indies and weebs I follow on twitter who would fucking hate this place are making jokes about how trash Nijisanji are as an operation now.

>>52420756
I like Uruka a lot more than most of Phase but she doesn't have much of a reputation at all outside of phase fan circles from what I can see, either here or on twitter. Dunno about discord at all, I never use it.

>>52428659
I know Mythic is just a talent agency and is nothing like, say, Holo or Niji, but the fact Vei and Nyanners are there alongside Nux is pretty fucking funny considering all the shit-flinging that was going on last year.

>>52428946
You would be surprised how many of them are 4views, but yeah, there's definitely some I've never heard of at all.

>>52401233
Thanks to sochou, she's removes whores and adds pure chubbas

>>52402155
People have different reasons for not liking kson as much as Coco
To me Coco was an adorable dork - mixture of cute and funny.
Kson is someone who tries to be cool and mostly is just cringe humor. Also unlike Coco, she isn't funny when she tries to be sexy - she just is kinda hot.
Plus Coco had better banter with her friends.

>>52418143
there the door
get the fuck out lmao

>>52404071
Removed due to high cancer chance. How people still like a woman without tits is a mystery

>>52438069
retard clipwatcher

>>52418143

kurosanji....

>>52438655
I cant read that shit retard