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Is he right? Are all of Hololive's limitations necessary for business to proceed?

>> No.5222743

No

>> No.5222749
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IDOL PROJECT

Not buttplug project ok?

>> No.5222778

Pretty funny that Hololive got sponsorships just fine when Asacoco was still allowed. Funny that Nijisanji still gets sponsorships when NKODICE isn't banned.

>> No.5222858

>>5222749
But all idols love anal?

>> No.5222902

>>5222732
>act like western e-thot
>circumventing scandalous behaviour

So the what about Kiara & Callie ? All is forgiven for them?

>> No.5222905

some nijis acts more vulgar than Coco and theyre doing fine and seems niji has more variants of sponsors than holo

>> No.5222924

>>5222905
Name one niji with simillar type of content as coco that got huge sponsorship

>> No.5222929

>>5222732
what deals? they've barely gotten ANYTHING, the girls are fucking barred from playing or singing most shit
The biggest sponsor that got was Curry Meshi and kaigai don't give a shit about a cup ramen they can't even buy locally

>> No.5222941

>>5222749
Ayame has her boyfriend's cum sloshing around in her pussy RIGHT NOW.

>> No.5222960

>>5222905
>some nijis acts more vulgar than Coco
True.
>theyre doing fine and seems niji has more variants of sponsors than holo
False. They only get trashy sponsorships like Chinese mobile game. None of them get huge gigs like Nissin, Redbull, or singing for anime.

>> No.5222966

>>5222941
No she doesn't, we use condoms

>> No.5222965

>>5222924
Their main bitch is a full-blown degenerate, and way more raunchy on stream than Cucko and Vshojo combined.

>> No.5222971

>>5222924
Ange is more vulgar than Coco (talks about her NTR and shotaonee fetishes etc) and she got sponsored to shill an eroge and Genshin Impact

>> No.5222990

>>5222960
>Genchink Impact
>Not a huge sponsorship
Sour grapes.

>> No.5222992

why are you posting your own comment

>> No.5223005

>>5222778
You can't even compare the amount and the scale of the sponsorships Hololive was getting one year ago to now.

>> No.5223043

>>5222960
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-02-22/vtuber-kaede-higuchi-sings-im-standing-on-a-million-lives-2nd-season-opening-song/.169814

>> No.5223044

>>5223005
Dont forget the concert. 1st, 2nd, Bloom, and from the 1st. of all of em coco only appeared on 1 and act as opening.

>> No.5223065
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>>5222924
What makes you think Coco's content is even notable by Niji standards? Even their non-edgy girls that are just being themselves like Emma have no trouble being degenerates when they want to.
Japanese companies genuinely don't care about being vulgar or lewd. The only reason Hololive is so strict is because they're shilling to EOPs. That also lines up with why they killed Asacoco and put Coco in censorship jail right when the EOP's showed up.

>> No.5223067

Nah, that guy’s an idolfag more concerned about the company than the talent. I think I’d Cover continues down this road, more of them are going to get frustrated and leave.

>> No.5223077

>>5222732
dumb phoneposter

>> No.5223095

>>5223005
The fact of the matter is companies weren't turned off from sponsoring Hololive then and they still aren't turned off from sponsoring them after the Chinw incident, janitor incident etc etc. Anybody who claims this level of image management is necessary for sponsorships is deluding themselves.

>> No.5223099

>>5223067
>Nah, that guy’s an idolfag more concerned about the company than the talent. I think I’d Cover continues down this road, more of them are going to get frustrated and leave.

>> No.5223107

>>5222902
Callie and Kiara are still in. Bunch of Western Holo fans seem to be corporate chameleons. No opinions or thoughts of their own, Boss knows best. Everyone loved Coco before but then when Corporate decided they had an issue with how she has always been, then everyone else repeats the same.
>>5222905
Yes, some Nijis are very wild and make Coco streams look like a daycare. Though it may have to do with Holo focusing big on western sponsors now. Microsoft, Crunchy, whoever is localizing whatever, the whole 6 people that make up the US dub industry, et cetera. Whereas Niji basically been all Japan and a Japanese sponsor ain't gonna give a shit if a vtuber's asmr stream consists of literally shitting on the mic as long as it's not during the sponsored stream.

>> No.5223110

>>5222966
Checked and based, fuck'em kids

>> No.5223119

>>5223065
This makes me wonder why she ever bothered joining Hololive.
Imagine if Coco joined Nijisanji originally and started doing Asacoco there showing off all the wild antics of her co-workers and promoting EN content. Imagine if she pushed hard for Nijisanji to start an EN branch before Hololive did and translated her own streams and clips to draw in EOPs. Cover would've gone out of business when the Holocaust hit if it wasn't for clipfags and EOP's saving Yagoo's ass.

>> No.5223133

>>5222732
>Giving a shit about business
Don't care, idol fags are the worst. The girls should be free to do what they please within reason. The thing the faggot is ignoring is that while the Coco personality may be under cover it's literally nothing without the talent behind it. If Cover keeps pushing girls to the side and keeping a vice grip on them out will eventually have negative effects.

>> No.5223140

>>5223005
A bunch of us are post-EN noobs. Enlighten us.

>> No.5223141

>>5223119
Another Delusional EOP savior fags kek.

>> No.5223148

It’s not fun to watch someone push the limits if there aren’t any limits

>> No.5223161

>>5223119
isn't she joining Hololive as the manager?

>> No.5223187

>>5223119
Hololive back then, was way different to how they are these days.

>> No.5223197

>>5223161
No, she denied that in a stream.

>> No.5223205

>>5222929
>he can't buy nissin stuff localy
wow you must live in a litteral shithole

>> No.5223213

>>5223065
Im not, i really just wanna know

>> No.5223216

>>5223133
Define "within reason"

>> No.5223217

>>5223161
Apart from her denying that. Why would she take a position that doesn't pay as well and still doesn't let her do the content she wants to do, when she could just stream as her roommate?

>> No.5223245

>>5222778
>>5222902
>>5222971
Their rule is made by SJW from EN managers team. They are arrogant bunchs who think their Western swhores are succesful because of talent alone and Cover is numberfag who believe in that shit, completely disregarded the hard work of JP branch.

>> No.5223249

>>5223161
That is literally a paycut

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>>5223213
here have another then
nijisanji has open loli/shotacons and lets them push their fetishes in 3D streams it's pretty funny.

>> No.5223265

>>5223217
What is her revenue via her indie channel?

>> No.5223283

>>5222960
They just shilled Lenovo stuff on monday.

>> No.5223318

>>5222732
He sounds like a Zhang

>> No.5223319

>>5222960
Ryyushen just streamed 2 hours of mecha anime songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOmB6aXa3Zo

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>>5222732
When I look at this, I can't help but return to this pic days ago. Is it a good thing for a company not to have goals for their talents in the future? Wouldn't it be better to put up rules so that the talents know when not to be overly vulgar during streams?

>> No.5223389

>>5223250
I think that anon original question is which niji with vulgar content like coco that got huge sponsorship. For example all the big holos sponsor are pretty much on the safe side Redbull/Botan+Aqua, Nissin/Curry trio.

>> No.5223391
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t-think of the sponsors!

>> No.5223410

>>5222732
Why are you clipping your own comment?

>> No.5223421

>>5222990
Global level brands like Nissin and Red Bull are way bigger than a fad mobile game that no one will talk about in a year or less.
>>5223043
Didn't know that. But my other points are still valid though. Niji don't need to maintain image because all their sponsorships are nothing big.

>> No.5223438

>>5223367
It would be fine if the rules were there to begin with. The problem arises when rules are changed arbitrarily and enforced without reason, like the neutering of Coco's content. She used to be the top superchat earner of Hololive making content like Asacoco and talking about buttplugs. It wasn't for reasons of business that she was censored, but rather image.

>> No.5223466

>>5223389
Oh, in that case it's hard to answer because Niji doesn't really have a sponsor gap between their degen talents and their seiso ones. For example Kana Sukoya famously has a vomit fetish and talks about it all the time on stream but she's one of the most prolific Nijis in terms of sponsorships, and not just otaku/anime shit but food brands and such as well. Tsukino Mito is basically JOP Coco and she's the daisenpai of the company who set the tone for Nijisanji's brand as a whole and participates in all the media events, so in the case of Nijisanji it's actually the norm to be weird.

>> No.5223483

>>5223421
Genshin Impact is still going strong after a year with no signs of slowing down. Is Lenovo not a big sponsorship? Are Playstation, Asahi, and Capcom not big sponsorships?

>> No.5223501

>>5223421
There are plenty of big sponsors for nijisanji. Bandai Namco for one.

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>>5223421
>their sponsorships are nothing big
This is bait, right?

>> No.5223526

>>5223367
As a baseline, sure.
It's fine to pose restrictions for girls who want to be big idols, but others like Coco who just want to make entertaining streams shouldn't be subject to those same rules.
But then again sore ga Hololive da.

>> No.5223529

>>5223483
Shueisha and Google have both sponsored Nijisanji recently too

>> No.5223535

>>5222732
Just curious, where does she think she can go to say whatever she wants? She can stay on YT as an independent, but one big yab and she'll be kicked off with no company to help try to bring her back. Same thing can happen on Twitch, once you get booted from those her last option is going to be OnlyFans.

>> No.5223587

>>5222732
Of course he's right, if a vtuber wants to do whatever she wants then do it as an independent one, but if you decide to join a company and take advantage of all the exposure that gives you, then you will abide by their rules or fuck off.

>> No.5223597

>>5223319
He means singing an opening or ending song for the actual episodes of an anime. Which Subaru, Aqua, and Nene will for Jahy. Then again, twitter could sperg about Jahy being "problematic" and Holo promoting such things closer to release or after first couple episodes and then it the deal is dead and song replaced.
>>5223421
Sure. But Niji employs like 50x the amount of people than Cover does in more countries and they get by fine with small sponsors.

>> No.5223615

>>5223529
Oh yeah, they have a Google Play sponsorship coming up.
https://playjp.withgoogle.com/event/playonchallenge/2021/?utm_source=cr088&utm_medium=yt&utm_campaign=poc

>> No.5223632

>>5223597
See
>>5223043

>> No.5223643

>>5223615
Sasaki already did a shill stream a couple of days ago.

>> No.5223645

>>5223421
>Lenovo, Asahi, PlayStation, Google, Shueisha
you have no idea about anything, fuck off

>> No.5223674

>>5223597
Nijisanji members have done multiple ED/OP for anime. Their unit Trinity did the ED for that train mecha anime and Deron did the OP for some other anime.

>> No.5223767

>>5223535
She's not expecting to be able to say the nigger word or call for a race war, all she wants to do is make grown-up jokes without some manager breathing down her neck or pre-approving her content.

>> No.5223769

Cover wants western sponsorship deals in the future. Western companies are woke and will avoid anything that has the remotest chance of getting them cancelled on Twitter. Of course Cover is going to play it safe.

>> No.5223785

>>5223597
On top of what others have said about Nijis singing anime, Kana Sukoya will be doing voice acting for a visual novel along with Hololive's Momosuzu Nene.
https://twitter.com/charon_kn/status/1401109037937139716

>> No.5223819

hololive really is the sanitized PG-13 disney version of vtubers with practically the same audience too: children and manchildren

>> No.5223845

>>5223632
>>5223674
Well shit, wasn't aware. Guess we can cross that off for "None of them get huge gigs like...."
I think Kanae streamed in some Redbull sponsored Apex tournament before, yes? Not sure if that counts as him sponsored though.

>> No.5223880

Japanese government are the one who ordered to restrict coco.
Did you all notice,Chinese mainstream media don't greenlit this Taiwan thing?

>> No.5223883

>>5223819
If that mean Pekora can finally become the Hero of children then I'm happy.

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>No global brand sponsors

>> No.5223985

>>5223421
Tell me what is considered a "big sponsorships" To you then

>> No.5224016

>>5223845
Kanae is personally sponsored by Logitech on an ongoing basis isn't he?

>> No.5224047

>>5223785
wait, I didn't know about this! that's amazing, I love both of those girls

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>No big sponsorships
https://twitter.com/GooglePlayJP/status/1404758698170277889

>> No.5224070

>>5223985
Any of Hololive sponsors.

>> No.5224094

>>5222732
This comment is written in bugspeak English. My ant senses are tingling.

>> No.5224097

>>5223785
Was unaware of that too. I'll be sure to get! I know Charon. They've made some indie/doujin eroge VNs. This one being on Switch obviously won't be. Unless I suppose it goes all ages on console and r18 on PC like some do.

>> No.5224175

>>5223587
The problem arises when those rules weren't there in the beginning.

>> No.5224268

>>5223250
Damn I think i should watch more of them other than the singers. Looks like a fun bunch

>> No.5224275

>>5223785
>Menherafflesia
Might be worth checking out just by the name of the game.

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>It's all small sponsors

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>>5224097
It's a remake of a non-h freeware VN. According to vndb the remake is R18 but I haven't seen any evidence of that in the promotional page so I have no idea. Seems unlikely Cover would let their talents voice sex scenes though? Also this is Nene's character, lol.

>> No.5224425

It's only a matter of time anyway till Hololive gets these kind of sponsorships too. Being family friendly and all while still getting high views that aren't dependent of Apex. Plus, isn't all these nijisanji sponsorships targeted at JOPs?

>> No.5224436

>>5224175
The rule is that you will abide by what the company tells you on a per case basis, there are not that many general rules and even those are subject to change anytime.

>> No.5224466

>>5222749
But idols are made for anal sex...

>> No.5224501

>>5222732
My dear bugmen, let me explain you why limit the ones who made possible to get sponsors is a mistake.
The first reason is obvious, if talents feel uncomfortable they will jump off the ship, their audience will feel like you are an asshole and they won't trust you. With the audience loss your sponsors will fade away. Business in Internet works by a different than conventional, but yeah try to explain this to a director's board men in their 50s-60s who never did any shit on internet

>> No.5224562

>>5224175
The rules were there from the beginning, just watch matsuri telling people how her manager just gave up in the end. The issue is with the rise of EOP, they now have to be extra careful again.

>> No.5224596

>>5224466
Lori...

>> No.5224629

>>5224466

which girl is best at uranus

>> No.5224717

>>5222732
Guy on they picture is chinese

>> No.5224749

>>5222732
When operating a company you can take risks, or you can be strict.

Coco, by taking risks, became literally THE most profitable superchat earner on all of YouTube.

However, Japanese businesses are notoriously narrowminded. Even with literal profit staring them in their faces, they keep being restrictive. Although you can see, clearly, that the more creative and adventurous ones have exponentially greater and proven success, it's not "safe" so they dislike it. I can understand mostly shutting stuff down because there are indeed imagining issues here and there, but when you have something that works, you shouldn't punish it.

>> No.5224767

>>5224717
>Guy on they picture is chinese
sounds like you're the chink

>> No.5224770

>>5224412
Yeah, seems unlikely. Especially with the new sponsor/family friendly or whatever the hell they got going on. Perhaps Nene's character doesn't have any scenes though? Still don't see Cover allowing it.
>>5224425
You Holo plebs have just went from "Niji only get small sponsors while Holo gets the big stuff" to "It's only a matter of time anyway till Hololive gets these kind of sponsorships too."

>> No.5224853

>>5223367
The issue with Nijisanji is like, too much cultivation and thus a difficulty to maintain a cohesive identity/brand. Well, unless you're REALLY into them I guess.

Cover has been mostly nice about freedoms, but some of its more daring talents get the "nail that sticks out" treatment hard

>> No.5224856

>>5224562
> The issue is with the rise of EOP, they now have to be extra careful again.
I've said from the beginning that the Chinese aren't gonna be shit compared to the western twitter crowd if they get them riled up.

>> No.5224891

>>5224767
Sounds like you are a retard

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>>5223421
The holobronie in his natural habitat... let us ignore, briefly, his unsightly deformities, and focus on how he spasms as a brooding call to the other rrodents...

>> No.5224919

>>5224412
>>5224770
If it's coming out on the switch there's no way it's R18

>> No.5224945

>>5223245
Imagine thinking EN managers have any say in what the higher ups of the JP branch decide. EN managers are bottom bitches. The two actual reasons for them being more strict is that they still market themselves as an idol company (hilariously) and in general Cover just plays things way to safe. The latter being the bigger reason, but also does make a bit of sense when you consider they're more globally known than Niji and other company's are.

>> No.5224989

>>5224856
What? They already riled up from day 1, or did you miss the whole venti and gura being pedo bait?

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>>5224412
The Steam page says it's rated mature for depictions of sexual violence and self-harm, so I think it's R18 because of that and not necessarily sex scenes since Japanese ratings are harsher on depictions of violence than sexual content.

>> No.5225133

>>5223250
Fuck, I wish I knew japanese

>> No.5225147

>>5225078
Makes sense, the original was rated R15 because it was pixel art so the yandere scenes were less bloody I imagine.
Can't wait to be killed by Nene

>> No.5225164

>>5224919
Not the Switch version, for sure. The tweet mentions Steam also. But it's Steam and they roll a dice if an R18 game is allowed or not. Could be on dlsite like all his other VNs(all ages and r18). There's a couple VNs that are All ages on Switch and R18 on PC. But I'm doubting Cover would allow if R18 anywhere even if Nene's character doesn't have a scene.

>> No.5225175

>>5224853
>some of its more daring talents get the "nail that sticks out" treatment hard
Is it the only issue though? Feels like there isn't a week without some of the girls having menhera out moments lately. I don't mind them having a corporate identity but if Cover is going to manage them they might as well do it properly.

>> No.5225240

>>5225164
Nene's character is one of the main heroines, of course she'd have a scene.

>> No.5225281

>muh e-thot
>muh sjw
kill yourselves

>> No.5225352

>>5223421
>all their sponsorships are nothing big
You clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

>> No.5225376

>>5222732
Yes

>> No.5225457

>>5225281
You first

>> No.5225524

>>5224466
Compelling argument...

>> No.5225581

>>5223977
damn I didn't know APEX was a vtuber

>> No.5225683

>>5224989
Venti washed up has-been, don't think anyone remembers her at all. Though I'm aware of people saying that about Gura plus the usual shit that they say about anything 'anime'. I'm mean if some incident or whatever that gets them all riled up at once on with a single focus.
Thankfully they aren't hivemind bugmen like the Chinese, so no big push yet. But if they actually get together on something. I believe it'll be real fucking rough.

>> No.5225770

What exactly is it that Hololive is limited from that you guys want them to be doing?

>> No.5225826

>>5222732
Stop posting your own comments

>> No.5225916

>>5225770
romantic sex asmr with nene!

>> No.5226083

>>5225683
Yeah no one remember her alright, but thats because she have no other ammunition besides gura model looking like a child and you need to actually watch content in jp for the lolicon in hololive. That whole twitter banding together for their annual cancel campaign is what i fear going to happen if hololive arent careful with the western side of the internet. Nijifags in this thread are flaunting about their superior freedom probably dont realize that all these loli characters wont fly in the west at all. But then again what do they know, their EN branch is fucking bland as whole, not even a single cunny or the supposedly superior male.

>> No.5226112

>>5225770
Any of the content they used to make that they've since been barred from doing. Asacoco. Swimsuit streams. ASMR that isn't limited to mengen only. Let the talents play NKODICE like they want. Matuli used to be known for her loli talk and shameless male collabs and nowadays she's suspiciously privated all of her old Niji male collabs and doesn't talk about eromanga much at all.

>> No.5226137

>>5226083
>probably dont realize that all these loli characters wont fly in the west at all
The fact that Gura exists is enough to prove this notion wrong.

>> No.5226151

>>5222732
corporate-wise, yes.
fanbase-wise, no.

just like other big company brands in the world, this is the cost of hololive getting bigger and more mainstream.

>> No.5226335

>>5224629
rushia

>> No.5226379

>>5226083
Is that why Matsuri has been playing mostly Apex?

>> No.5226431

>>5226137
Look at the chihiro or utako webm posted itt. you really think the west is going to accept that?

>> No.5226524

>>5226431
Mori's addressed the accusation of her being a shotacon multiple times, Amelia has mentioned loli and shota on stream multiple times, Finana has loli-style art of her being given a facial as an avatar, the western vtuber audience is far more permissive with this sort of thing than you'd think. Matsuri was one of the first vtubers to hit it off with a western audience precisely because she was so open about her love of loli.

>> No.5226554

Hololive got big due to jokes about buttplugs, jokes about hardcore drugs, pedophilia and the nigger word. Why limit them? The fans clearly don't mind anything less than the hardcore whore appeal of someone like Rindou (and even then there are probably enough fans that would like an idol like that) so it seems unnecessary to rein the talents in.

>> No.5226597

>>5226379
I have no fucking idea, i'm just rationalizing behavior of a profit driven company based on evidence in internet. I don't like it but since im short of a solution i'm just going to accept it and hope for a better.
>>5226524
Weeb community will accept it, normies will try to cancel it as evidenced by above, even the vtuber thread in kiwi nearly got axed because of loli/pedo vtuber accusation.

>> No.5226731

>>5226083
I'm sure Niji are well aware. Not sure what's going on with their EN branch though, but JP is their main market. Believe they would drop EN like Holo dropped CN if became an issue and wouldn't give a shit about what people here say about their JP branch. My only fear for them(Holo too) would be giant cancel campaign causing Google/Youtube to hit them for some clout.

>> No.5226766

>>5226597
>Weeb community will accept it, normies will try to cancel it as evidenced by above
You mean like Venti did? How'd that work out for her? The audience that actually watches vtubers overwhelming accepts lolishota content. Kiwifarms is kiwifarms, nobody but a bunch of stalker schizos visits there so their opinions are not to be taken seriously.

>> No.5226799

>>5226524
The artist of the avatar actually draws a ton of lolicon lewds too.

>> No.5226862

This board became a bunch of insufferable idolfags hunting for drama, it's fucking disgusting. Hololive is what it is thanks to people like Coco, Haachama and Matsuri - unabashed degenerates and the exact opposite of what stereotypical seiso idols are supposed to be. If not for them, and clips of them getting translated into English, Hololive would still be dragging far behind Nijisanji, and none of you fags would be here (expect for a few old /jp/fags).
Idol culture can suck my dick, it's an exploitative horror show that panders to literal schizophrenics and doesn't even bother producing decent music anymore.

>> No.5226941

>>5226862
Lmao ok eop newfag

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>>5222924

>> No.5226966

>>5222732
That's classic zhang deflection, possibly an exchange student based on how his fucking youtube comment is worded like it's a memo.
I get that Cover is scared of yabs after having several big ones last year but the way they're operating to prevent further yabs is ridiculous. They're losing one of their top earners because they're suffocating the talents with red tape. Like other people have said, other agencies have raunchier talents and still have plenty of sponsorships.

>> No.5227127

>>5226766
>You mean like Venti did? How'd that work out for her?
Like I mentioned earlier, no one remembers Venti.
>The audience that actually watches vtubers overwhelming accepts lolishota content
Maybe Niji, 774, and pre-HoloEN viewers, but Holo has completely blown up since EN. Plenty of normies. From Kotaku, PCGamer, and every fucking site posting about them to everyone telling all their friends and family. I remember an Ame FO4 stream, singing along to that jungle song, quite a few people were going on about "it's ahkshully racist!". Got drowned out by the emotes, but the people that have issues with everything are there/here.
>Kiwifarms is kiwifarms
Aren't they the people that make threads making fun talking about how nasty certain e-thots are but unironically sub to their onlyfans and buying their nudes/lewds to post to make fun of and actually contribute a large percentage of whoever's OnlyFans or am I thinking of wrong site?

>> No.5227185

>>5227127
why is /v/ so stuck on its 10 years old boogeymen, they say this and blame the same persons about literally everything

>> No.5227255

>>5227127
>no one remembers Venti
And that's my point. Her attempt to "cancel" Gura failed. And she had a big audience. The amount of vtuber fans that like loli vastly outnumber the ones that don't.

>> No.5227260

>>5227185
Kotaku, PCGamer, and similar are full of absolute easily offended normies and they did post articles about EN prior to and during the early months.

>> No.5227308 [DELETED] 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Je-v9v5PuWU&feature=youtu.be

>> No.5227357
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>>5222924

>> No.5227379 [DELETED] 

That’s sooo funny

>> No.5227389

>>5227255
By "no one remembers Venti" I mean she's not as big as used to be so smaller audience.
>The amount of vtuber fans that like loli vastly outnumber the ones that don't.
I hope you're right, bro. I just don't see it.

>> No.5227404

>>5225133
just learn it lol

>> No.5227453

If hololive wants western corporate sponsors, they'll have to bend the knew to china.
If they just want superchats and donos, then they just have to follow the youtube terms and conditions

>> No.5227470

>>5223107
> the whole 6 people

youre literally too stupid and ignorant to make a good rrat.

>> No.5227476

>>5227389
Even if Venti herself isn't as big as she used to be she had a ton of big right wing Twitter accounts promote her when she tried to cancel Gura. The reality is just not a lot of people cared. Don't worry, I'm sure Gura has a lot more lewd ASMRs and bathtub streams in her future.

>> No.5227554

>>5222732
Why are you making a thread with your own retarded post, EOP?

>> No.5227588

>>5222732
I mean, if you care about cover numberfagging itself into the mainstream EN market, yah sure. I don't see why you or anyone else in this thread should, though. The girls are going to do just fine with the same or even smaller numbers. Even medium JP corpo sponsorships and sales from merchs like Nijisanji is more than enough, add that with Holo's generally astronomical numbers of superchat incomes.

It's just Cover enriching itself while bootlickers follow suit because it's "better for Hololive" or something.

>> No.5227635

>>5224945
>Imagine thinking EN managers have any say in what the higher ups of the JP branch decide.
>EN managers are bottom bitches.
ESLchama, your slang reps...

>> No.5227672

>>5222732
Even a group as lewd as Vshojo is getting sponsorships from stuff like funimation and square enix just fine.

>> No.5227734

>>5224629
Suisex, she is also the best at everything.

>> No.5227748

>>5222732
>sealed deals
This is referring to Chink companies or Chinese affiliated companies. Yagoo will holler for a dollar, or a Yuan.

>> No.5227802

>>5222732
Corporations have achieved godhood in front of everyone's eyes. There's nothing they can't do. Ask this cuck if china's cock tastes like Peking duck.

>> No.5227925

>>5227748
>>5227802
Come on, lets be fair, why cant yagoo get those sweet yuan when activ8 and riku are gorging on those sweet nanking bucks

>> No.5228195

>>5227476
Really hope you're right. Though the doomer in me is thinking that it didn't catch on because it was the hype new thing and I wouldn't be surprised if rest of twitter and Google/Youtube didn't pay attention simply because the one's yelling about it were on the right lmao.

>> No.5228659

>>5226554
Lamy, no! Do your western normie reps!

t. Manager-san

>> No.5228867

>>5224268
Utako is almst predator tier shotacon. She is obsessed with BL as well.
But Cover fears the Western EOP. Our kind have a penchant for kneejerk cancel culture. See this faggot reacting to Utako.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1mPDYeYXzU

>> No.5229127

>>5226862
It doesn't have to be one aspect or the other to work. Hololive has lots of people with fans that have varied interests Some are in it for music, most for entertainment, some want the girlfriend experience, and other want fap material. All the girls play their part and the company will survive without a Coco or Matsuri.

>> No.5229137

>>5228867
why did you show me this

>> No.5229147

>>5222732
Coco is getting sent death threats because she said "Taiwan", not because she doesn't act like an idol.

>> No.5229195

>>5227925
I don't think any of them should be sucking China's teat.

>> No.5229255

>>5223265
Her current income on her other channel is literally irrelevant when it tripled in subs the moment Coco announced her graduation and she only streams once every few days (on Mildom too, not even Youtube).

>> No.5229274

>>5225175
There are many issues, but the subject here is about "freedom of expression".

>> No.5229340

>>5229137
Because this is your typical redditor's response to Nijisanji's livers just having fun. I'm glad they aren't popular outside Japan. NijiEN might cause Anycolor some problems down the road.

>> No.5229501

>>5223535
Fuck off back to china. Her content never got her in trouble with anyone other than management until she said "Taiwan." This has nothing to do with modesty, it's because of chinese politics.

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>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ACT LIKE A SLUT
ogey

>> No.5229620

>>5223587
Unless there was a rule at Hololive about not mentioning Taiwan, she did abide by the rules. This has nothing to do with following the rules, it's about chinese politics.

>> No.5229680

>>5229501
>muh freeze peach
sorry honey, but it doesn't work that way. Speech and thought have consequences

>> No.5229772

>>5229501
Actually her content keep getting her into trouble with YT demonetization, but yes her greatest crime is being american.

>> No.5229909

>>5222941
>>5222966
Oh sorry Boyfriend-san, haha that's my cum.

>> No.5229914

>>5229680
>consequences
yeah, and that's why we need freedom of speech, to protect people and allow them to express themselves, no matter how dumb or hateful

>> No.5229935

Too many insects around here

>> No.5230005

>>5229680
>Speech and thought have consequences
Eat shit, Marxist scumbag. You can't even understand that the tables could turn and you'll be the one with no voice and no one to take your side.

>> No.5230035

>>5230005
lol, keeping dreaming chud

>> No.5230147

>>5230005
Why does /vpol/ even come here? It's an anime board

>> No.5230478

>>5229680
That's true

The consequences of her "saying whatever she wants" were 2mil in superchats, Hololive gaining a western audience, and HoloEN

Coco being harrased by Antis and Hololive having to leave bilibili were the consequences of Coco saying "Taiwan"

>> No.5230529

>>5229680
>thought have consequences
Holy shit this reeks of peking duck and mercury poisoning

>> No.5230670

>>5223438
>She used to be the top superchat earner of Hololive making content like Asacoco and talking about buttplugs.
She stayed top SC earner waaaaaay after she was neutered though

>> No.5231059

>>5223133
Creativity is being held hostage by cover just to please sponsors. poor coco has so much fucking entertainment value and yet she was pushed to just gaming and singing until she graduated, I liked her last asacoco, but that only reafirms why Cover is shit by ignoring her for so long.

>> No.5231114

>>5222743
fpbp
Everything bellow it was unnecessary

>> No.5231176

>>5222732
>e-thot
Incel opinion can be safely discarded

>> No.5231184

Did some holofaggot really just say Holo gets bigger sponsorships than Niji?!

>> No.5231225

>>5222732
Of course. A balance of freedom and restriction is needed for success. Hololive has ridden this line well, but is fumbling as of late.

>> No.5231286

>>5230147
>It's an anime board
>literally the primary meadia used by VTubers is video games
Anon...

>> No.5231316

>>5222778
That's because Hololive's major sponsorships were Chinese

>> No.5231383

>>5231059
>Creativity is being held hostage by cover just to please sponsors.
Not a fucking excuse.
>>5223043
>>5223483
>>5223529
>>5223615
>>5223977
>>5224057
>>5224289
>>5226949

>> No.5231504

muh sponsorship is just an excuse to enforce idolfaggotry on girls. Niji just has a bunch of safe talents and use them in sponsorship deals. Forcing all 52 talents of Hololive to go full safe mode to maximize potential sponsorship deals is just pure Jewish and destroys SOUVL

>> No.5231557

>>5231383
anon all those girls you posted have safer content than most Holos.

>> No.5231677

>>5231557
Anon?

>> No.5231914

>>5222732
maybe if that is the only thing you care about

>> No.5231962

>>5231557
Ah yes... Hoshikawa "I'm a slut and proud" Sara, Yorumi "I love girls" Rena, Suzuka "show me your ass" Utako, Tsukino "I rent a sex doll and play Eroge live on Youtube" Mito, Kenmochi "I love Loli" Toya, Sasaki Saku, Ange "I love NTR" Katrina. The seisoest vtubers.
https://playjp.withgoogle.com/event/playonchallenge/2021/program/program1/player/

>> No.5232040

>>5231962
He's a Holofag, only knows English. Cut him some slack.

>> No.5232276

>>5222732
no

>> No.5232522

>>5230147
Right wingers like weebshit too.

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>>5231557
https://youtu.be/QqtW4PeHju0?t=2869

>> No.5232925

>>5227476
>Even if Venti herself isn't as big as she used to be she had a ton of big right wing Twitter accounts promote her when she tried to cancel Gura.
This is a little bit ironic. To be honest, the reason why Venti failed is because, yes, her audience was right wing.
It's the same thing that happened when the right tried to move off of Twitter onto Gab. It was going great, and they had a lot of numbers, but as soon as the owner threw a shitfit over loli the whole movement imploded.
There are a lot of right wingers who like their loli, and a significant portion of Venti's own audience turned against her. This, more than anything, is why Venti failed.
Also because she didn't actually care to succeed and was just in it for the clicks as usual.

>> No.5234816

>>5231557
Oh my god... You deserve to be euthanized for being such a fucking retard.

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