/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>52218328
R

>>52218120
Not even an EN thing since if that were the case then Hololive would have actually fired Haachama for not streaming since January but since they are not a streaming company theres no mandated streaming quotas for them

>>52218369
A

POPULAR DEMAND

>>52218328
We need our usual baker...

>>52218328
We already had this OP pic recently.

Are we all excited for the new merch EN bros? Can't wait to wear it while Kronii streams

Bae getting bled badly by IRyS and Mori.
>>52218424
Yeah. He probably took a vacation.

>>52218383
you know the guys just some seething anti at this point. If lack of streams was a big issue. Half of hololive would be out on their asses by now. Everyone has had down time at one point or another. Some more than others.

>>52218416
You don't to post old images. The gap between the 3 HoloEN streams is bigger than Axel's current CCV

>>52218328
The more i look at her, the more i realize that Ui is just Subaru wearing a blonde wig!

>>52218384
T

>>52218416
Why compare mere men to an idol or diety? They aren't in the same realm of existence.

Just saw the graduation news. I really wish they'd waited at least a day. The plappening was just yesterday and I'd like to spread my mirth out a bit more.

>>52218673
Isn't that normal for parent and child?

>>52218509
Whats even more funnier is that if you actually followed hololive most of the complaints from management are from them streaming too much or having them prioritize streaming over other things like school

Suddenly seethe over EN and Gura. Seems natural to me. This can't be over them releasing some educational voice pack right?

>16,102:Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,090:Vei (Mythic)
>7,050:Mori (Hololive)
>6,924:Fauna (Hololive)
>6.818:Vantacrow (Nijisanji)
>6,675:Ame(Hololive)
>6,638:Vedal (Indie)
>6,228:Shylily (Mythic)
>5,082:YU Q Wilson (Nijisanji)

PER COMPANY
>3x Hololive
>4x Nijisanji
>19x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

YESTERDAYS EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (06/26)*
>12,138:Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>7,050:Mori (Hololive)
>6,924:Fauna (Hololive)
>6.818:Vantacrow (Nijisanji)
>6,675:Ame(Hololive)
>6,654:Vei (Mythic)
>6,638:Vedal (Indie)
>4,758:Shylily (Mythic)
>5,082:YU Q Wilson (Nijisanji)


PER COMPANY
>3xHololive
>4x Nijisanji
>19x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie
BASED ON JST

5k dorya!

>>52215751
So beside money and idol rep, WHAT'S the appeal of Hololive that can actually attract people? Because unless you're desperate, I don't see the reason why someone would voluntarily apply to HoloEN, unless they're fan of the company and/or talents

It's puzzling how smaller corporations and indies are thriving in EN while HoloEN and NijiEN are struggling.

Pic not related, I just wanna show you guys Choco sensei's tits

>>52216405
Nijisanji JP dont have any stipulation to stream and in EN its only 3 days. Only tourists think theres some obligation to stream when in EN alone you have many who stream less than that and take breaks all the time

Reminder to at least kneel once per day

>>52218769
It is probably also seething about the rrats thats spreading like wildfire outside here

IRyS on cripple tally

>>52218825
Give us this month's tally

>>52218383
>>52218509
I think the quota is flexible (a holo can fill them later if she's currently occupied by something).Also different members have different contracts. For those who built the brand they have the leeway not to stream. Don't you think Sora have a lot of privileges? How can you compare old gen who built the brand with new gen leeched the brand?

It would be insane to encourage new holos not to stream with freerider incentives (no quota).

>>52218900
GOLD

>>52218858
being 2views are okay now?

>>52218846
That anon is retarded. You also don't have to give up your old identity to join Hololive

i find it funny how sisters think that if luxiem graduates nijisanji will die when mayuzumi, lulu and gibara who are much bigger than them graduated and nothing changed for them

>>52218867
>Nijisanji JP dont have any stipulation
Thats for the non VTA livers. The VTA ones have the same stipulated contract as EN

>>52218846
infrastructure. There now fuck off.

What in tarnation
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1673511961827635200?s=20

>>52218720
NijiEN can’t let anyone else be the center of drama. It’s gotta always be about them. Selfish cunts. Let someone else take the brunt of the community’s ire once and awhile.

Vanta stabilized around 3.5k
That's where he stabilized for his guerrilla yesterday too

raspberry status?

>>52218509
Are you confused?
>Hololive is not streaming company because xyz
>Hololive is not a streaming company because of abc
That’s the argument going on between them. Neither is technically wrong

>>52218740
>Things like school
The only thing “like school” besides alternative schooling is a job. You’re either so dumb you think all the holos are actually in school or you think their managers are pushing them to get real jobs. Based on your English it could go either way

>>52218888
I didn't see any rrats outside? Is it the thing about Niji management mistreating the ENs?

>>52218673
Watamage should make Subaru graduate for it. Ui is Watame's friend and doesn't need that leech to steal from Ui.

I'm really hoping Watamage will destroy another Holo like last year with Rushia.

>bought her clothes in japan
New Gura lore dropped

https://twitter.com/betsuyaku/status/1673340142935736329
Ride out!

>>52218952
Again you are under the assumption that their quota is streaming and not doing idol reps
You are still pushing the Hololive is a streaming company thing when they are not.
Its just ironic that they are the dominant vtuber group when they dont even focus their activities in streaming in the first place

>Mogged by literal dog
lmao

>>52219100
That's not new

>all that hype for this fujo pandering shit
>only for people not to watch it

>>52219064
>I didn't see any rrats outside?
outside here im seeing a ton even on vtuber groups about who the leakers are and why niji is unable to punish them

>>52219019
literally doa
is ver and hex all over again
3k after debut to drop to 1k

>>52219004
Oooooh Fauna is gonna lose to IRyS?

>>52218955
Surprisingly 2views only prospect and grow their fanbase by interacting with other vtubers on Twitch.

>>52219004
i still dont get WHY THE FUCK IS CHADCAST NOT AT THIS HOUR

>>52219141
Axel is a horrible solo streamer his game choices are always shit.

>>52219141
>712
it's over...

>>52219061
>The only thing “like school” besides alternative schooling is a job.
I remember reading something about Rosemi being forced to quit school in order to focus on her nijisanji career

>>52219197
I don't think so, the women were all saying how much they love his voice and said he's even better than Vox. I think he's gonna be a 3k streamer

>>52219211
Fauna didnt stream today

>>52219195
Ah, it could be that I just don't check Niji often. I try my best to keep them out of my feed.

>>52219213
Didn't some 2view complained that most of Vtubers of that level only had other 2views as an audience?

Does niji en management got a plan?

>>52219323
Nigga that is literally what they said about hex.

>>52219100
I have picture of her first landing in a beach somewhere in Japan

>>52219323
>I don't think so, the women were all saying how much they love his voice and said he's even better than Vox
they said the same thing with hex and even rissoto

>>52219368
no hex has always been a niche appeal

>>52219353
Yeah, Lord over their fiefdom until Riku decides to merge them with the main branch.

>>52219353
Throw shit at the wall and hope to find gold

only 5k on only up
GRIM

>>52219329
I don't see how that's a problem. All streamers and youtubers start with friends and family as an audience or none at all. The key is to be entertaining enough to keep the randoms that pop in to see what you're doing. If you can't, it's a legit skill issue.

>>52219353
Yeah acceleration

>>52219427
same as hex who also was streaming at this time atthe beggining
they are not gonna keep 3k average dont be delusional.

>>52219329
Those are vtweeters anon they are not vtubers.

>>52219353
3 more waves this year.

>>52219353
old nijien management probably wanted more indpendence and wanted their branch to grow
new nijien management is just an interim management which is there to probably look around and see how and when nijien can successfully be scuttled and absorbed into the main company

>>52219325
But she played this game before

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1673511961827635200?s=46&t=dQCa0PLnkTMeZNHVXoQIMA

This is literally the shilling cover should’ve been doing almost 2 years ago. It’s actually insane how you had the most popular group of 5 in the history of all vtubing yet the only thing they had going for them was doing streams

So, graduation buff every month now?

>>52219353
>got rid of another girl
You’re acting like this isn’t a positive for NijiEN manatement. If all that leave are the girls, I doubt they’re complaining much.

>phase yab
>fishman makes a call
>nijien graduation to deflect

>>52219563
IRyS isn't going to beat 12k

>>52219596
Probably since Shu is supposedly going next and maybe Ren after

Why is IRyS playing this game if she already beat it?

>>52219353
It would be funny if China decide to betray Anycolor like what happened to Blizzard.

[IRyS News] She just said fuck on stream

>>52219579
but that’s not yonkisei?

>>52219606
>If all that leave are the girls, I doubt they’re complaining much.
That would actually be a problem for management since if the girls left then Uki, Shu and Luca would probably leave as well since thats the only reason they are there

>>52219631
Unless something more happens, everyone was getting bored of the plappening anyway.

>>52219702
She played it for 10 mins, she didn't beat it.

>>52219797
Why does she have the helmet then

>>52219703
That would have been feasible for B2 last year but with the vtuber scene in china being dead i dont think thats a possibility

>>52219843
oh no...

>>52219579
>myth recording this with debut era mics
GRIM

>>52219843
because she's retarded

I have to continue to support Nijisanji because if they go down it means you holobrony scum are going to have an uncontested monopoly on the industry.

>>52219843
Do you unlock it after beating it? She picked it at the beginning.

>>52219975
This is how a man ends up with a dick in his mouth to spite some faggots.

My jp7 candidate....

6k DORYAAAAAAAAA

>>52219737
>not like they have any other options
Even if by some miracle, they were to get hired into starsen, they wouldn’t be satisfied by the couple of holo girls that would interact with them.

>>52219975
It's time to go back?

baerys is dead and irys won

>>52220078
>Even if by some miracle, they were to get hired into starsen,
That would be ironic considering Luca not doing the light idol reps nijisanji has and botching it was supposedly one of the reasons why the AR concert was cancelled.

>>52219975
>imagine watching male vtubers out of spite
May as well stop watching vtubers altogether, because you’d have to pay me to watch nijien’s male ‘talents’.

>>52218983
source for that? if so its 3 days too, not too unreasonable

>>52219975
Your resolve will be truly tested in the next mixed wave.

>>52220034
You don't get to choose until you beat it once

>>52220060
Shimotsuki Haruka's gonna join JP7? Would be a great pickup since she's friend with Azki.

>>52219872
Brand new debut can't even beat mori playing training mode

>>52218975
i see that a lot. I guess its newfags who got into it via nijien so they dont know

>>52219975
I think competition is healthy and hope NijiEN doesn't implode.

>>52220255
I don't but she's is awful at this

>>52220223
If that’s true, how is this faggot still employed considering the amount of shit that had gotten fucked up by Luca? Favoritism only gets you so far.

>>52220060
wonder if they will focus on getting more singers this time

>>52220255
That's not true. Pic related.

>>52219579
If Cover deemed they needed to be in the studio, which is the case seeing as Hololive Production is claiming credit, they couldn't have done this 2 years ago because of the Shanghai boogie.

Irys gold today?

>>52220315
I would have agreed before they hired Luxium and turned the whole western vtuber community into a toxic waste dump controlled by male menheras.

>>52220471
Anon...

>>52220471
Unfortunately no, Nina's graduation announcement stream is today. It fucking sucks too because she is the only one in EN who doesn't have a gold this month

>>52220358
How many singers does hololive needs at this point. Hololive needs another idea person before a singer.

>>52219353
Throw everything on the wall until they got the next salome or luxiem, and those who failed can just quit after they recoup their loss.

>>52220584
They need a comedian.

Why were you idiots all arguing about Hololive streaming requirements? It's from the Hololive audition page, someone just link or post it.

>>52220538
When is the graduation stream?

>>52219318
I know she quit her job because she was making enough money I didn’t know she was in school

>>52220603
I doubt they want another Salome.

>>52220584
Hololive needs actual musicians instead of just singers.

>>52220653
I think Friday. Too lazy to double check.

>>52219782
Well im certainly enjoy it when bvtmcuck going into coping mode.

>>52219100
She wants to live in Japan so bad

>>52219579
I feel like this is pretty big. The damn thing is gonna get sold in actual, physical libraries

>>52220471
Sorry it's bronze.

>>52220662
She quit her job because she wanted to go back to school and even told her audience to expect less streams but she never went through going back
probably due to her mortage

>>52219271
Because they’re dumb

>>52220751
What’s stopping her besides her own autism? Cover would happily help her get a visa.

>>52220816
>twitch ccv vs yt ccv
ruru
fb live ccv actually shits on them both

>>52219113
>Hololive is a not streaming company.
Let's make an assumption in your favor.
All five JP7 members do not stream at all

Question: How do they contribute to the brand? (Reminder: they do not stream)

>>52220255
didn't you watch Ame's stream?

>>52219970
Gura was cute back then as well

>>52220911
>Question: How do they contribute to the brand? (Reminder: they do not stream)
Same way youtubers do by doing Vods and Variety shows

>>52220911
Release music.

>>52219141
Dog......Miko, please save your friend...

>>52220223
Lol being in holo is basically 20% streaming, 30% meeting, 30% homework. They gonna give up first on meeting much less on homework.

>>52220911
Music
Concerts
Pre-made content
Shorts
Hologra

>>52220816
im guessing conor is saving her subathon again right?

>>52220902
Is there a FB vtuber? YouTube ccv can't be trusted since they have not even fix the crypto scam streams.

>>52220911
5 Gura but only does premieres.

>>52219975
no worries, vspo is replacing niji

>>52221076
It hasn't been 7 days yet anon

>>52220900
Except cover won’t that’s what is stopping her. She said this during members and it was all over the board

>>52220911

>>52220758
Yeah. These foreign language learning books are quite popular in East Asia. It's going to compete with other more academic books (for people taking proficiency tests) but I can see this doing pretty well especially since it also includes audio. Also need to judge it when we have scans or pictures of the illustrations and content inside.

Ironlung is coming for irys on youtube

ankimo should post more shorts on his own channel
https://youtu.be/_AmQ2Ja5av4

>>52220692
They can fill up tokyo dome with their audience and have videos in range of 10s of million... What makes them less than "actual musician"?

What you probably want is them to hire famous successful top musician, but that is impossible. They already established themselves and their persona.

>>52220351
He makes them money. That's it. He makes them a lot of money. Or, made, I'm not sure how his merch or SCs do now. They didnt' really lose anything cancelling the AR Live because it wasn't at a venue

>>52221059
>music
Will cover pay for them or it'll come from their pockets?
>concerts
How many per year?
>pre-made content
>shorts
So they're still content creators at the end.
>Hologra
Will Cover make a especial Hologra just for them or they'll be shoved in every single episode?

>>52220911
>Hai domo virtual youtuber Kizuna Ai-desu

>>52221137
Thank you. Sane anon.

Doesn't Vshitshow have their own thread? Why won't this Ironwhore faggot get the fuck out of here?

>>52220911
you do realize that they even say that they prefer people who are not reliant on streaming right?

>>52221137
If that the case why do people complain about gura not streaming.

>>52220911
manga circle like CLAMP

>>52220900
How?

EN3

>>52221180
Do the Cover employees even remember there's an Ankimo channel?

DumbRyS

>>52221241
If you are genuinely asking some of these questions, you don't know anything about Hololive

They are really going hard with this

>>52221047
Ignoring that you only made 80% it’s all up to you. Meetings unless you’re JP is like 10% of your time.Streaming could be anywhere from 10%-85% with the rest being HW or relaxing. Notice I said or not and

>>52221245
And she is dead lmao

>>52221241
>Will cover pay for them or it'll come from their pockets?
>How many per year?
Same deal as the other talents since this is not nijisanji
>So they're still content creators at the end.
Yes they are content creators not streamers see >>52221137
>Will Cover make a especial Hologra just for them or they'll be shoved in every single episode?
Depends on Cover

>>52218985
>infrastructure
Infrastructure that only useful when you want idol reps, which, again, not everyone is on board with

Council will never get anything. They'll just give, and give, and give, and give to Myth despite the fact that they should help Council too because it's not like they aren't making them money. It's actually fucking absurd. They don't have mindshare? Fucking help them. Don't leave them to rot and not give them shit. Put them out there harder.

>>52220900
Cover can't get anyone in EN a visa but somehow they'll figure it out for Gura

>>52221226
I honestly doubt Luca or Luxium as a whole are making them as much money as last year. I’m actually kinda curious how dire it actually is. Like at what point does it come to a point where their liability is higher than the money they make? Or is Nijisanji’s inherent misogyny and blatant favoritism towards their male talents that deeply ingrained into their culture?

>>52221180
Ankimo is so sexy

>>52221427
You do realize that you can use a 3D studio and mocap software for stuff other than idol reps, right?

>>52221279
>If that the case why do people complain about gura not streaming.
because 90% of the time its from people who dont even watch gura when she streams and are just there to shitpost or mald over the fact that their facorite 2view cant get popular even though they stream 24/7

One more wave and NijisanjiEN will surpass HoloJP in size. Currently 33(-1 soon to go) vs 35.
Think on that for a bit

sub 7k on a only up stream
GRIM

>>52218964
>You also don't have to give up your old identity to join Hololive
In theory no, unless you're Mori type, which I assume a majority of EN indie is

>>52220911
Like AZKi in her early years prior to streaming.

>>52221495
>One more wave and NijisanjiEN will surpass HoloJP in size
Thers like 3 or 4 waves coming by the end of the year

>>52221552
No, you are wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2nzY4yxJx4
Leak debunked. Dude got lucky.

>>52221439
Council is a flop. Two years in and not a single one of them has managed to gain 1 million subscribers.

>>52221215
I mean hiring people who can play something and/or write their own songs, especially for EN since they're heavily limited by their options and generally have to rely on Japanese producers/songwriters for their songs and covers.

>>52221399
>this is not nijisanji
I don't know why you're bringing them up but unless Cover is hiring a gen of Vsingers their songs and covers will come from their pockets, and concers are expensive to organize so how many Cover is willing to do for a gen that's focused on it?

>>52221134
>not wanting to have Gura have quick access to their studio for music and 3D
Damn, is Cover that fucking retarded?

>>52221279
>No stream
>No music
>No shorts
>No pre-recorded variety contents
>No Tweet

>>52220692
Drummer chubba when

>>52221439
Anon, Council gets shit...when it comes from the west.
The problem is that Cover can't find a way to get westerners to do lots of advertisement for vtubers, so they sell HoloEN to japs. And who do japs care about? Not fucking Council. They want their carri chan kakkoi, their same chan, their stable octopus destination.

>>52221271
The truth is how many holos can contribute without streaming? (E.g. suisei out of 35 JPs). Marine actually built herself by streaming.

>>52221552
I dont remember Mori or even Kiara dropping their old identity

>>52221356
Time to Learn English

>>52221059
None of that would make cover much money. They won’t allow this

>>52221241
You’re arguing with a retard you lost when you took his nonsense serious

>>52221352
You’re dumb

>>52221399
>Not bound to ONLY live streaming
You will be live streaming retard

>>52221427
Not just 3D studio, which is more than just for Idol reps, but a merch pipeline and business connections. That shit is hell to set up as an indie.

>>52221137
Anon they are streamers the audition says streaming career.

>>52219579
>>52221356
Holokek status?

>>52221612
What leak?

>>52221732
Some dude did a prediction and the first 3 were right but this one is wrong

>>52221612
Stop vague posting. What the fuck are you talking about?

test probably loud

>>52221439
Have you considered that maybe just maybe, council doesn't want to do shit like that?

>>52221684
Yes, you're expected stream, but you need other skills and talents. Kaela is a rare exception.

>>52221623
>Damn, is Cover that fucking retarded?
They would have given Gura one if they could but under japan vtubers arent considered actual workers which is why you cant get a working visa through it

>>52221612
so it is actually in order of mindchair

>>52221640
There's only 3 member can do that suisei, gura and calli

>>52221664
Why are you trying so hard. Hololive does a bunch of prerecorded stuff and they have a budget set asides for the girls to make original songs.

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1673526774314176517
How the fuck is this bitch still getting merch?

>>52221684
>literally says its ok if you don't meet any of this skills
Anon...

https://twitter.com/josuijishinri/status/1673494455155056641

homo doomposting?

>>52221635
Weird I can check her YouTube and Twitter and find all of these

Roa still exists
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1673526774314176517

>>52221439
What did council give to myth, I wonder?

Damn how does hlgg has better discussion about numbers right now than this thread.

>>52221858
>>52221883
lemao

>>52221800
kekmao

This seems like a stupid debate.
Hololive is mainly a streamer group, but they're like 60% there. If one of them can't stream, Hololive still finds uses for them and the IP. If an established talent wanted to go events only or hell uploaded vidoes only, Cover would let them, but they won't hire anyone dedicated to that.

It's that simple, why go through this retarded back and forth?

>>52220988
>>52221392
In current niji holo era does any or many vtuber grow with Vods only? Wasn't live streaming proven to be superior to vods long ago?

>>52221858
This is hilarious.

>>52221858
Riku's yacht isn't going to buy itself

>>52221612
>have a watch party
>sell less tickets
Mori you dummy

>>52221621
>I don't know why you're bringing them up
Because you sound like someone who has no clue about hololive and are basing their experience on nijsanji ones

>>52221858
shes still part of the company

>>52221858
I fucking PRAY she comes back now that Gundou's fucking shitcanned. It'd be fucking hilarious.

>>52220911
of course, the talents have to reasonable excuse to not stream. Gura is a money maker, so they let her, while Hachaama must have a serious issue.
Not streaming without accepatble excuse still unacceptable
take Sana as example, my rrat is Cover mandated more streaming hours if she wants to extend her contract, and since she wont/cant accept it, they agree to not extend her contract

>>52221800
KEK

>>52221612
>ID and JP is joining the concert
Why would they have to leech JP and ID for their HoloEN concert? This is a waste of resources.

>>52221439
I feel like they made Council to cover for Myth, while they make Myth do background stuff. This is why EN3 isn't a thing.

>>52221846
Didn’t say they didn’t I said it wouldn’t be profitable.

>>52221846
Because he wants to show this thread how Hololive is an evil company and that you are better off watching Nijisanji or the smaller corpos with his retarded arguments

>>52221635
>3 covers she's never done before and an ori song dropped on her birthday
What she is guilty of is being mentally ill and behaving in a way that doesn't quite make sense.

>>52221965
i hate gundou and love roa so i hope so

>>52221916
Streaming is part of their job. My job is making equipment, but I take the garbage out every night. I guess that makes me a garbage man

>>52221456
Unironically yes they can figure it out for Gura, just cook the book
Vtubers aren't a job? Hire her as entertainment consultant or some shit. Voice actor. BLah blah. Fucking janitor that has to clean one speck of dust. Anything.

>>52221871
he wanted to fuck Nina I guess

>>52221858
she's still recording voicepacks

>>52221858
>>52221883
does she get any money from this?

>>52222032
Is it your garbage?

>>52221684

>>52221883
Jesas. Imagine selling birthday goods of a corpse

>>52221941
Oh yeah, because Cover pays for every single orisong and every single girl who talked about how much they spent on their stuff was lying. Coverdrones are truly mentally deranged.

>>52221858
HAHAHAHAHHA holy FUCK I hate this bracku company.

>>52221858
>How the fuck is this bitch still getting merch?
Because she's not getting any cut of the merch

>>52222078
2%

>>52221858
Kek. Thats hilarious

>>52221858
shes just not streaming and active, shes in voice packs and birthday merch

>>52221970
>take Sana as example
This is the only reasonable and logical guess for not renewing contract. The quota.

>>52222078
1%

>>52222033
They don’t want to

>>52222005
They can use the songs for promotional purposes and they work as ads. Gura, Kiara, Mori Okayu and Sora have their orisongs in a game that made them money

>>52222106
hey that's not so bad considering she does literally nothing, it's free money

>>52221982
Nijiseethe

>>52222013
>behaving in a way that doesn't quite make sense
elaborate, to me it seems like she's just making a transition to being more of a performer than a streamer

number leech drooling at sf6 with korone's success with it

>>52222078
>>52222106
>>52222129
Nope she's not actually getting any cut of it since if she does get money that would make Nijsanjis case against antis fail

>>52222078
Yes, 50% voice pack and 2% merch
>>52222090
this is sold every year retard

>>52221795
>>52221732
Global leak

all natural baby

>>52221684
>>52222080
It a plus, not a requirement, people who doesn't have any streaming experiance also can apply as long as they entertaining.

>>52222078
She recorded the voice pack so i assume that she does

>>52221916
Because these people have an agenda. Whether it’s to defend Gura’s shitty behavior or to complain about EN not streaming, a bunch of anons want to argue that streaming either doesn’t matter at all or it’s the only thing that matters. And they’re not above making disingenuous arguments or straight-up lying to do it because this is 4chan, and anons are faggots.

>>52221456
She has kanauru and ame's pseudo-studio so they don't want to help the white skinned devil invade their country

>>52222077
Some, but I not most of it.

>>52222078
just from the voicepack

>>52222141
Where’s choco’s song in a game? Ame? Noel? Aki? Botan? Iroha?

Hololive Friends Laplus

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1673526569233522688

>>52222047
Are you sure it not AI lol

>>52222171
SF6 holo tourney when?

IRyS is depressing. Who the fuck are her fans? Where are they from? Fauna gets 12k, well and good, very cool, that's with minor JP tourists. But shouldn't JP tourists be watching IRyS? She speaks JP for them no? This is the game they seem to flock to, no?

>>52222326
Fauna doesnt belong there

>>52222269
Almost a janitor

>>52222186
>Yes, 50% voice pack and 2% merch
Nope she's actually not getting any of the cut for the merch since her case like the other livers hinges on the fact that her livelihood has been affected by the antis which is why Nijisanji asked Lulu to stop.
Her getting any of the cut would make her argument moot.

>>52222351
Why?

>>52222322
Not gonna happen unless korone ask her.

>>52222168
She put in the effort and the personal monetary investment into her birthday, but didn't promote anything about it until the day of. The covers and the ori song should be split out into individual videos. Instead you wouldn't even know about them if you didn't watch her birthday stream/if it weren't for clippers. That's mental illness.

>>52222405
I think the opposite will happen. I think Pekora will ask Korone and Botan about it.

>>52222380
Not how that works it would have to be she sold less. Not appearing for a year would lower it

>>52222307
you'd think she'd be livid and quit if that was the case given how attached she is to her accent/shtick

>>52222351
Yes she does. Also ,Kronii said friends of the opposite sex and put Gura back.

>>52222290
Are you dumb or just have no way to respond? Ame and Hachama turned off monetization for random stream, I guess they are not streamers because they those streams where not profitable

>>52222326
No pippa, yea sure pippisscuck.

>>52222269
A literal garbage man bitching about vtubers on a a basket weaving.. you know what never mind. Have a nice day. I'm sure things are rough for you, but chin up man. It won't get any better.

>>52222348
She's just not that interesting. Unless you care about what she ate or keyboards you aren't getting much out of an IRyS stream.

Anyway what happen to mori's idol showdown tournament this month?

>>52222506
No she doesnt
>>52222394
bvtm raid turned a literal nothing into a "yab"

>>52222544
how is that different form fauna except replace keyboard with random internet trivia

>>52222290
>Noel
>Iroha
https://taikotime.blogspot.com/2022/11/hololive-x-taiko-no-tatsujin-collab.html?m=1 dozo

>>52222505
You said use songs in games for promotional use as if it just happens to every member retard

>>52222506
fuck off plappa tard

>>52222590
Are you being serious?

>>52222463
I don't think she's interested in the game.

>>52222222
Who got it

>>52222482
Thats actually how it works since her argument was that her way of livelihood was affected by the antis and not the company.
Her getting a revenue cut for it would be detrimental for her case since they could argue that she still has revenue even with the antis.
Anycolor getting money for the merch would be a non issue since the case revolves around her and not the company and theres already precedent for Anycolor not giving any merch revenues to their livers like the Kuzuha merch one

It still hurts to this day.

>>52222348
The long breaks are killing her channel. She rarely has consecutive streams in a week. Fauna is consistent, while Irys is inconsistent as hell.

>>52222588
I didn't know bvtm forced Fauna to give her viewers a ten-minute reality check

>>52222650
IRyS can’t even bother with making a half assed schedule.

>>52222607
They do use song in games, is that incorrect?>>52222595

>>52222651
Literally who?

>>52222228
>>52222279
she actually doesnt since her case relies on her not getting any money due to harassment

why doesn't Kyo's audience like Vanta?
They want the fake, not the real thing?

>>52222651
Betrayal? Leaving hololive?

You still can watch her elsewhere though

>>52222674
>still trying to concoct a yab
Have a nice day phasefag

>>52222707
It's honestly funny how Fauna essentially started doing what IRyS used to but more consistently. Really not sure why she stopped doing these

>>52222078
Nope she doesnt since her character including the voice is owned by Anycolor and they can do with it as they please

>>52221618
Coincil is on pace to be the longest running gen without a 1 million subbed vtuber. Yes, even ID1&2&3. Gen1 went 2 years and 4 months, Council needs a 1 million subbed vtuber by December to not be dead last.

>>52222590
Because just like with Gura, a lot of people that watch streamers can relate to internet culture talk. IRyS just isn't into that stuff. Most of EN have much broader horizons than IRyS and usually have more to talk about as a result.

>>52222417
She's always had some kind of hangup about shilling herself out. I don't think it's just the same old "she's lazy" excuse. It goes way past that into either she thinks she's above it, or she feels uncomfortable doing it to the point it looks like she just doesn't give a fuck. Either way, mental illness.

we can agree that day 1 countdown is gonna be Gura, but what day is for Mumei?

>>52222799
>but more consistently
That basically sums up Fauna to a tee. She's not the first, and she isnt always the best but her consistency wins out.

>>52222171
Don't think that Pekora can squeeze numbers out of it. It's like an Apex situation where only a big tourney circuit around it can impulse some numbers out of it.
It would also require Pekora showing passion at playing it and like Apex I would expect her to give up easily.

>>52222856
tomorrow

>>52222795
I'm a holofag though, but have a nice day too

>>52221781
That wasn't a leak he was just guessing it was in number order because the first 3 were all shitters.

>>52222809
nta so you prefer EN to have low ccv but high subs like ID?

>>52222595
I named 3 other people

>>52221858
>How the fuck is this bitch still getting merch?
its probably easier since nijisanji doesnt need to give a cut to her
also i wonder if any of the dramatubers know about this? it would be kinda funny if they suddenly reported how nijisanji is selling merch of a long suspended vtuber

>>52222916
>the first 3
More like the first 5.

>>52222351
cuckling coping

>>52222771
I still don't know if his name is Fanta Crowbringer or Tyrant...

>>52222876
Luximem is insane
Kiara and Ame are honorary nijis
nta

>>52222856
Mumei is day 2. The pattern looks like it's alternating between Myth and Council

>>52221929
Peanuts and Omesis are still chugging along. or you can go the Cookieswirl route and pander to children

>>52222651
Hey! He-Hey! Tambourine Kurabu!

>>52222927
No, I am trying to explain why a company that likes subs isn't giving Council the time of day. The gen that debuted to less then 1k outside of Mel might take a shorter time to hit 1 million than anyone in Council.

>>52222856
>day 1 countdown is gonna be Gura
Too obvious. Because of that it will not be Gura.

>>52222980
I'm going to shovel my shit down your throat

>>52222968
She does voice packs still so she's technically an active employee. Just doesn't stream.

>>52222886
Anon pekora's apex numbers is better than most vtuber out there even without tournament.

>>52222654
>Livelihood affected by antis not the company
>Company lowers her cut from 50% to 0%.
Explain your logic there.

>>52222856
Wouldn't the alternating gens put a Council member for Day 1?

>>52221858
Roa will only get 1% put of these merch so might as well pump this shit out and milk what left of her fanbase as much as they can

>>52223023
He used it for his twitter handle because his full name breaks the 15 character limit

>>52223109
your still an employee even though you are suspended anon
i never said she was graduated

>>52223109
You forget about Kataribe Tsumugu. Still an active liver

>vstats removed their ccv peak medians
why

>>52223212
(You) shitposted too hard with them

>>52223058
Nah everyone pays attention whenever Gura so much as breathes, it's gonna be day 1 as a last call.

>>52223212
Because it's a meme metric and it's always been

>>52223211
Kataribe hasn't got merch in a while

Irys and Bae overlap
Name a more iconic duo

>>52223285
Still an active employee

>>52222853
>Schizos compares whores to Gura again
Every western vtuber is her equal apparently

This holoEN overlap hell is seriously brutal.

>>52223032
So it will end on a Council member. The order might end up being
IRyS
Ina
Kronii
Gura
Mumei

>>52223297
Camelot n Pippa?

>>52223297
They hate each other now

>>52223044
Based fellow club member

>>52223206
So her contract is still in effect, and she would get the 2% cut from the merch and 50% from voicepacks just like anyone else.

>>52223297
Nijiniggers and making posts that age like milk

>>52223157
her argument was that her means livelihood was affected by the antis so her getting merch or even revenue would mean that her means of livelihood was not affected
that would also give nijisanji a very good loophole since the court argument was about her livelihood and not the compnay's livelihood so they can profit from her merch since they are not involved

I feel like Fauna would've still gotten 9k, in this timeslot, with this overlap, if she played Only Up instead of IRyS...

>>52223358
IRyS is not a council member

>>52223297
Tom and Jerry

>>52223297
irys, mori, bae overlap

>>52221982
Nice bonus since they were announced after the tickets sold out. It's basically additional value.

>>52223347
out of the three only irys has decent content choice today.

>>52223409
So
IRyS
Kronii
Ina
Mumei
Gura

>>52223409
I could see them using this as a reason to double-up on Council countdowns if they want to force Gura for day 1

>>52223267
But it's the metric we pay attention to the most...

>>52222876
Retard

>>52223380
Her emplyement contract but not her merch contract since her making money would hurt their case
Its why they told that other liver to stop her activities so that that they can show that she had her money making ability hampered

>>52223422
Why can't CHaD set-up actual funnels and not overlap against each other

>>52223493
IRyS will get day 2 for seniority reasons

>niji "one graduation a month" sanji
>Meanwhile hololive...

>>52223457
That was planned by Cover. They saw how quickly the HoloEN concert sold out and thought that there might be a bigger market for this sort of thing in the West so they're using it as a vehicle to shill multiple branches to non-Japanese. The goal is to have an actual worldwide concert.

>>52223515
No one here actually takes this thread seriously.

>>52223546
They don't want to be known as "try hard" like those filthy sankisei.

>>52223603
Hololive world tour in 2025

>>52223392
Back to being retarded. If you sold 100 one week had people attack you and then you sold 90 the next week you just have to prove they played a role in causing the drop. What you’re saying makes no sense

>>52221982
>Why would they have to leech JP and ID for their HoloEN concert?
JP and ID were actually announced after the tickets sold out

>>52223392
If she can't stream it is effected, that's how they make most of their income, not the 2% from merch. Anyway the whole legal thing is stupid, part of the reason Lulu (I think?) graduated was because it was utterly pointless. Not worth losing a year or more of revenue to sue some literal who faggot for if you're lucky, $20 grand and a restraining order, most of which will simply be pocketed by the lawyers.

>>52223297
Irys japan time streamer
Bae aussie time streaming
Fighting for NA timeslot
RUMAO

>>52223297
HOLOLIVE and Incel

>>52223517

So what happen to mori's idol showdown tournament?

>>52223792
cuckling has no argument

>>52223526
There is no "merch contract" it's all one contract.

>>52223364
Does she prefer Excalibur or Caliburn?

>>52221982
To sell streaming tickets to JP viewers.

>>52223743
not really since that would be too small of a change that would hold up in court
it would mostly be 100->00 for it to be an airtight case which is why they told Lulu to stop activities otherwise they could have just told her to stream less instead of stopping all activities

>>52223364
DELETE THIS

I haven’t watched irys in months she’s dumber and more japanese than I remember

>>52223810
No perms

>>52223859
niji has a history of doing sub contracts
its the reason why their music contracts are different from their employment contract

Nene Amano is a colossal bitch

>>52223457
>the tickets sold out
Imagine a shoot out happened at YouTube Studio.

>>52223972
Luna is dumber

>>52223930
That’s called an example we use those to make a point. And that is a huge drop if you’re living paycheck to paycheck.

>>52224005
It's a pretty white area

>>52224030
I mean Luna actually saw how much of a cesspit Nijisanji was and she actually jumped ship at the cost of getting harassed by nijifags so thats pretty smart of her.

>>52224030
Yes luna is cute what’s your point?

Imagine being such a boring streamer as Shitrys to not get at least 10k on this

>>52221858
this is like graverobbing lmao

>>52224059
>And that is a huge drop if you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
but not big enough according to Nijisanjis lawyers which is why they told them to stop instead of doing less streams

>>52224159
It's closer to stealing your grandma's social security check

>>52176633
>>52176633
Numbers

Tempiss status?

>>52224159
They did the same thing with Axia and Mayuzumi
They didnt do it with Akane and her Nornis stuff probably due to her supposed new record label company

>>52223602
>Hololive countdown everyday til Connect the World
>NiggersanjiEN and small corpos Implode everyday til Connect the World

>>52224005
I’ve been wondering is this not actually live? Doesn’t seem like anyone’s getting ready to go to LA

>>52224168
I think we’re misunderstanding each other. I was just explaining what needs to happen in general not her case

>>52224076
1000 crimes happen around the area last months how's that a white area.

>>52224288
What happens in the final day?

>>52224233
>Fauna +18.58%

>>52223930
NTA, but isn't the original debate about whether Anycolor has changed the merch contract profit distribution (e.g from any percent to 0%) to ensure the income is low, so the case hold up?
Personally, I think that's a retarded take, keeping a income low by changing profit distribution will be easily found out, essentially killing the case

>>52224288
Kawaii is also doing a countdown

>>52224323
The people committing those crime are not from that area

>>52224323
Whites commit crimes too, news flash.

>>52224159
They did it on lulu last year

>>52224401

>>52224249
how the fuck did they keep getting away with this?
even when i didn't like the chuuba, this feels disgusting

>>52224376
They dont really need to change their merch contract in order to have a 0% cut since theres provisions in there that gives them power like the kuzuha thing

>>52224510
>how the fuck did they keep getting away with this?
most of the nijisanji fans including jp are fans of the company and not the liver

>>52224326
every single corpo dies at the same time

>>52220758
Imagine if Hololive fans put in requests for this book at each of their local libraries …

>>52224308
I don't know about EN girls but JP is 100% prerecorded since Suisei will have a concert the day before.