/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

So all the lewdness went to girl-dm's sister I see.

>>51812697
>she totally schlicks to porn of omori
Time to cancel her on Twitter

>>51812697
Who?
>Omori porn
Based

She really shouldn't have bent the knee, that only makes things worse. It's not like the ones that hate her are suddenly gonna like her now.

>>51812875
Exactly. I only know of this now because she made a generic "I'm sorry" tweet and now everyone is making fun of her for it.
Streisand effect is a bitch.

>>51812697
Everyone knows she draws the type of boys she likes.

>>51812854
>who?
the creator of omori

>This is now an Omori thread.
Well. Wouldn't blame her on that.

>>51812697
She shouldn't have said anything at all
but using the excuse of "i'm older now" is accidentally absolutely hilarious when the accusation is liking shotas

>>51815420
Fug. Meant to quote OP's comment on Omocat slicking it to Omori porn. Too mesmerized by Mari feet to make proper posts.

>>51813104
The best part is this

https://twitter.com/_omocat/status/601782272392441856

>>51812697
If you could draw wouldn't you draw things you would want to masturbate to?
That's what I'd do, especially if I could make a shit ton of money in the process.

Never apologize to subhumans.

So the creator of Omori is a vtuber now? That's one way to diversify revenue streams.

>>51815586
I would draw things that appeal to me that I want praise and attention from. Oh no this reveals something about me too

>>51816029
appeal to me -> appeal to people
oh no a Freudian slip too. I'm spilling everything here

>>51815530
Very nice

why are people suddenly mad at shotacons? jealous because it isn't them?

>>51817466
More likely trying to cover themselves, most people that go hard against loli/shota are actually touching children irl and think throwing people that like drawings under the bus will make them look less suspicious

>>51818739
You also never see them say a thing about the drag shit aimed at children

Could be hard for her, since she created the characters. Either way, she's based.

So what?

>>51817466
The modern internet political right are now anti porn, anti anime, and anti fun in general.
Retards literally thinks anime makes you trans plus leftists also hate Japan so they hate anime as well.
Zoomers grew up with anime, but don't understand shit about the culture and they love canceling everyone

I wonder when they will find out that some of the artists for Hololive draw shota porn?

>>51815420
I wish Mari didn't die so there could be canon incest shota porn between the two...

>>51818739
It's because they don't see a line between reality and fiction, i love lolis but also they have unrealistic proportions that are extremely sylized and that's what i find hot, kids are just disgusting goblins and i feel the need to kick them when i see one crying and/or screaming

>>51815420
As a siscon this pic always activates me.

Buy a ad you shills

the quirky

>>51813104
NEVER
EVER
APOLOGIZE

>woman writing a game about depression
pffFFTTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT LOL

>>51819972
>modern internet political right
But this shit comes mostly from modern internet political left

>>51822118
its bipartisan, just that the general public has fucking rotted brains

>>51822118
It's both as do you really think the left is calling it tranime?

>>51815420
not going to lie, when i played omori i thought about sunny having sex with her dead body in a state of confusion...

>>51819440
when the fuck is drag ever aimed at children?
where the fuck is that happening where the target demo for drag shows is children?

Shotacon women are based as fuck, screeching twits need their finger perms revoked

>>51812697
If she actually owns up to it, I'll start watching her.

>>51823068
US has an org that has men in drag read children's books out loud in public libraries and schools. Not really a drag show, but it's like having a guy in a gimp suit do the same.

>>51812697
Apologizing to Twitter is futile

>>51819972
>The modern internet political right are now anti porn, anti anime, and anti fun in general.
They have literally always been like that. The only right wingers that weren't
are terminally online racists that don't even understand their own fucking professed ideology let alone the ones they oppose.

>>51817466
yes. amerimutts are definitely the most jealous scumbags on this planet. it causes their woke shit and idpol. this is why they self insert in entertainment frequently

>>51817466
I'm indeed jealous, but not mad.

>>51818739
>most people that go hard against loli/shota are actually touching children irl and think throwing people that like drawings under the bus will make them look less suspicious
An anon once posted a link to an archive that has an endless amount of people raging against loli/shota on twitter only for them to be exposed as actual creeps and predators months later. Its like a law of the universe at this point

>>51829453
Same for the people who go extra hard on anti-gay shit.

>>51812697
>apologizes
Her fault. Her mistake pandering to twitter moralist, there’s no end road there, they’ll just attack you till they’re satisfied or you suicide. Should have pandered to anime community instead since she’s a vtuber.

On one hand I'm disappointed that she folded to the twitter freak crowd, but I understand why she'd do it since it'd be irresponsible to risk her company's PR over something as trivial as this

>>51812697
Well I believe she'll learn to never apologize naturally, she seems too shy to make a big fuckup.

>>51812697
She has been apologizing and deflecting for it for years now, this is nothing new but rather standard business boilerplate.
Hell, read what she said, it was almost word for word from the script she posted to twitter rather than anything heartfelt. Note that she never actually says she isn't a shotacon or apologizes for it. She's just a closeted, ashamed shotacon now instead of being open and defensive about it like she was in her youth.

>>51815530
She really does like Drifloon, even if she was making an edgy joke about it. She had painted a watercolor drifloon back in 2010 and was still maintaining it as her favorite gen3 pokemon in 2016.

God where were women like this when I was a little boy

>>51833630
...Drifloon is Gen4 bro...

>>51829453
>>51829896
https://archive.is/iro2V

>>51834305
>...Drifloon is Gen4 bro...
Oh yeah, true. With that science building and stuff, how foolish of me to forget, I guess her tweet threw me off.
Well she got it wrong or I guess it is just her favorite pokemon in general and wasn't paying attention.
https://twitter.com/_omocat/status/689159449529876480

>>51823068
>>51825045
Many drag events and Pride events now feature children in the parades or advertise the events as "all ages" despite there always being outright degenerate behavior in the shows. They are groomers and aren't even denying it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA

>>51833570
It was a fucking edgy joke, there is nothing meaningful about it. Man the internet got so boring.

>>51817466
there's a list that shows that loli/shota haters are people that do children in real life

>>51834823
The weird thing is the people offended by the edgy joke will then go on the tell you to kill yourself, or something sexist/homophobic/racist depending on what you are and don't see themselves as being assholes. And these are lefties.

>>51834823
>It was a fucking edgy joke, there is nothing meaningful about it.
Beneath the mask of edgy humor lies steely, unironic intent.
She was just joking about wanting to steal children but she is a shotacon and doubled down on it before to defend her love of little boys. Which I don't really have a problem with, I don't think she is any danger to real children. It is sad that she gets harassed over it.

>>51817466
>I will never be young enough for Omocat to steal
IT HURTS

>pedo defense force spamming the usual "if you don't like that I jerk off to toddler rape you're a pedo"
I'm baffled that they collectively believe this works, imagine saying "bro that's fucking gross" to your roommate who is jerking off to 2D toddlers and he pauses to say NUH UH YOU'RE THE REAL PEDO
that is pretty much what you're doing and it's just sad to see, the entirety of the normal population consider you pedophilic and wouldn't trust you near any real child

>>51835160
>https://archive.is/iro2V
If the boot fits.

>>51835079
She got Zaion'd.

>>51835260
Sayu is still a proud and open shotacon though, isn't she?

>>51823068
have you literally lived under a rock for 2 years?

>>51829453
'Member back in the 90s when, seemingly on a monthly basis, you had politicians or religious leaders who ranted about the evils of faggotry only to get caught in a Vegas hotel room with a pile of coke and 3 male strippers? Same shit.

>>51835260
Sayu collab when?

Who's Omori playthrough should I watch? Or should I play it myself?

>>51838977
play it yourself, not because it's some life changing experience, it's just chubas make streams of the game annoying by overreacting to every emotional moment in the game

>>51812697
God I wish I was a shota, it's not fair, why am I a bald muscular dude

>>51841025
Is it worth buying then?

>>51844097
only on sale

>>51819972
The right has always been anti all those things. Retard. It's the literal definition of social conservatism.
The people attacking her are the leftwing twitter troon fanbase she cultivated. Those people tend to be extremely anti shota and loli because they're trying to hide the fact that they're ACTUAL pedophiles. The journalists in their ranks always end up arrested for CP.

>>51842276
Just grow out a beard and look like Kratos like I did.

>>51819972
>I wonder when they will find out that some of the artists for Hololive draw shota porn?
*That some of the Holos draw shota porn

Apologies to terminally online retards means she is dead to me automatically.
Never bow to retards.

>>51815420
wao

>>51819440
Eh, catholic (and most religions) church has been doing it for over a thousand years.

>>51844955
Which ones are known to have done that? Lofi and Marine are obvious.
I wonder about Mori, her college degree is actually in drawing comics (“sequential art”).

>>51849069
It was furry stuff for Mori, she basically admitted to it. It's how she survived in Japan on JET wages for 3 years while paying for music production until she got into hololive.

>>51812697
people don't suddenly lose their fetish
it's something pretty deep in your psyche that's hard to change

>>51849287
She never said she wasn’t still a shotacon nor did she apologize for being one.

>>51819972
you think it's the racist anime avis that care about this and not the blue haired feminist types? look at any single account on twitter that is upset at omocat, and not a single one of them is "right wing". they literally list their pronouns. i swear you people get on your knees and beg like dogs for your own death

>>51844602
I just looked like a mexican drug lord when I tried to grow beard, I got bullied into shaving it off

>>51849287
isn't accepting people because they were "born this way" the whole point of woke culture?

>>51851501
Thankfully, pedophiles are universally hated regardless of your political stance.

It's not just a thing of
>Kneeling to twittertards
She has a very real business to run, the face/mascot of said business is also her herself. She's even spoken about business partners bringing up "shota" shit to her IIRC. It's fine to tweet shit like that when you're a nobody but if you're trying to run something big then that's gonna come with.
Now at least if she's doing a deal and they bring it up she can use it as an excuse to get out of the situation, or if twitterfags tries to contact her partners to stop them from working with her they'll know ahead of time.

She shouldn't have said that shit anyways though. Nothiing wrong with liking shota/loli just don't tell anyone unless you're Japanese living in Japan because the rest of the world will sperg the fuck out if they knew. It's literally only ok if you're Japanese

also this >>51849287

>>51849069
>Which ones are known to have done that?
Marine and Flare

>>51822920
ao3 is your friend here

>>51851726
>>51851726
>spoiler
Honestly this, if that fat fuck who wrote Made in Abyss can get away with it than literally anyone else should be fine if they just kept quiet kek.

>>51851641
For now. But in the oppression Olympics who is more ostracized for something they can't control?

>>51851726
pretty much, she will bend the knee performatively to save her brand, but its not touching the ground. She will continue liking Shota and there is nothing wrong with that

>>51815420
nice

>>51852177
going to get some shit for this take, but honestly, if a pedo never commits an offense, im willing to live and let live.

>>51815420
>>51852338
This shit is hot as fuck I should make my own shota/loli story so I can get porn of them too

>>51852338
>>51815420
>>51815517
Maybe I should install Omorii...

I'm a nobody and made shota jokes and it's only gotten me banned from discord servers so far. Nothing irl. I don't even consume shota unless someone else sends it to me when lewding together.

Also people claim that I only have sex with minors. morning irl, just me getting banned from discord servers.

But omocat uses the internet to sell merchandise so I guess it's more serious for her. But she still gets business offers so it's irrelevant Ig

>>51812697
>apologizes
Utterly pathetic behavior

>>51819972
retard

>>51812697
Wow, a woman who likes shotacon? What's next, a woman who breathes air and eats food?

>>51849667
Trad larpers are just as bad the only difference being they don't have the microphone lefties do

>>51852518
>a woman who breathes air and eats food
Stop it anon, your scaring me!

>>51835338
She still has the !shota command on Twitch which locks a new shota in her basement, so yeah, she didn't relent but she did try to apologize/reason in her letter regarding the Genshin shota lust.

>>51853559
Lmao if this is true Twitter people will never know since they don't watch streams.

>>51852338
Nice.

>>51853559
Nice.

>>51851726
Hey, at least Omocat hasn’t thrown anyone under the bus like nyanners did when she was distancing herself from her stupid youth.

>>51851760
Flare? I thought she just liked loli, not shota. She is one of the biggest otaku so it isn’t that surprising she would draw some stuff like that in her youth.

>>51812697
underage twitter children bring up her old shota shirt every 3 months or so but that won't stop omocat from being set for life thanks to her shota/incest bait game rumao

>>51859012
>incest bait
It isn’t really incest bait, is it? Incest fetishists are just wanting it to be there.

>>51857875
Flare likes shota for sure but hides it. She is actually quite degenerate despite the alleged "prude" image.

Where the fuck is the omori porn

>>51863154
https://gelbooru.com/

>>51863154
There is no Omori porn

>>51863154
Fuck that. I want omocat porn

>>51812697
sexx

>>51862781
That is strange though, because she doesn't hide her love of Loli at all. If she loves shota too, why would she only hide that?

>>51823068
Anon…your america reps…

>>51864204
https://ahri2mp4.rule34.xxx//images/5177/3826a5cb33dbbcb8f13a7828eb009502.mp4?5899980
https://files.catbox.moe/xcmxjy.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/1303jp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/75h99p.jpg

>>51875762
That last one is pretty cute.

Shota and not real boys? And people still get upset at that?

I HATE RETARDED TWITTER FAGS!
I LOVE SHOTA!!!!!

>>51812697
Based I will now pirate your gayme

>>51815420
good lord…

>>51823068
none, if it did it’s probably like 1 or 2 schools out of hundreds. i live in fucking LA and have never seen this happen once in my life. I’ve never even seen a single pride parade

>>51879039
>i live in fucking LA
I'm so sorry

>>51879472
yeah, it sucks here. the rent is expensive and people shit everywhere but if you tell someone to fuck off they usually listen

>>51870699
Because she doesn't want it to be part of her image? Pretty simple stuff.

>>51812697
She's a pedo?

>>51877701
it's always about that one shota from summer wars
I fucking knew it

>>51883067
No, she only wants to titfuck and rim anime boys.

>>51851726
Second this
People in Pixiv had to DROP patreon when certain AMERICAN Card companies will "not do buisness that involve drawing of children"
its super indirect,but affect artist nonthe less

>>51883067
she is not, as far as we know
Ameritards afraids of drawings again

>>51812697
Don't you ever dare apologize to the terminally Twitter

What is with women and young anime boys? Half the women I see talking about anime beyond a passing fancy can gush for hours about how much they love characters like Killua or Kaworu

>>51883940
What is with men and young anime girls? Half the men I see talking about anime beyond a passing fancy can gush for hours about how much they love characters like Gura or Kanna Kamui

>>51883940
>>51884117
Both are based

>>51812875
Never apologize on the internet. It only makes things worse

>>51884317
Oshi no Ko taught me that!

>>51822118
>>51822166
so many leftists are also proshippers. trust me it's very much bipartisan stupidity. newer generations were a fucking mistake.

>>51852357
I'll go even further for getting shit: I think no one is a "pedo" if they never commit an offense. Being interested in fictional kids mean nothing, but IRL kids mean you just might need to step away and talk to friends and/or a therapist. Both are still not grounds to resort to namecalling if there's no malintent or offense going on at all.

>>51883067
Pretty hot, right?

>>51819440
Nor when the church priest does it

>>51830339
god i wish that was me

>>51880332
But why loli and not shota, if she likes both?
Flare has weird image issues, no doubt, but that seems especially odd. Sounds far fetched.

>>51819972
anti/pol/ troon deflection/damage control post.

Cancel culture is purely a left wing tactic and her userbase is filled with people who loved to witch hunt other people for the sake of it back during Tumblr days.

>>51885274
Ah yes, calling rock concerts satanic and trying to force everyone to become christian or die was an is peak leftist behavior

>>51885190
because Japan? girls liking lolis is fine because "oh, it's less likely that she's a gay pedo", but suddenly she looks more like a threat to for liking shota just because of gender matching. It's a possible reason why she hides one but not the other.

>>51885386
lmao, at this point just ignore it. political polarity has made people less objective. people only want to see the good things out of their own group and plug up their ears for the bad. no amount of proof any side sends to the other will change the other's mind. change is most likely to happen with in-groups, particularly centrist friends.
t. Psychology Major
you would also know if you look at /vt/ enough, outside of the unity threads...

>>51883940
>>51884117
Have you ever heard of something called "cute"? It's not a gendered thing to like fictional children who are designed to be appealing like that.

>>51885386
Right wingers are not forcing omocat to apologize for her past behaviour

>>51885470
>because Japan? girls liking lolis is fine because "oh, it's less likely that she's a gay pedo", but suddenly she looks more like a threat to for liking shota just because of gender matching. It's a possible reason why she hides one but not the other.
Then explain Marine, her genmate, being openly shotacon.
Not just 2D either, she was publicly lusting after little boys and in her OL days even tried to groom some of her coworker's elementary school age boys while fantasizing about molesting them. All stuff Marine talked about on stream.
Her partner genmate, Noel, always jokes about shotacon stuff too. Flare could easily get away with being a bit shotacon if she wanted to with those two around.
You got any stream or clip links of Flare where she shows her shotacon side?

>>51884866
But pedo just means the attraction

>>51885647
>le radical centrist diatribe

Yaawn

>>51885846
I DEMAND OMOCAT APOLOGIZE FOR DISTANCING HERSELF FROM HER TRUE SHOTACON IDENTITY!
SHOTACON WOMEN ARE THE BEST!

>>51886011
well I'm just in the thread and brainstorming, NTA. I don't even watch flare. maybe she just had friends who are against shotacons growing up, idk. a bad experience shapes up who you become as a person even if she now hangs out with Noel and Marine for obvious reasons.

>yeah dude omocat is getting dragged by trannies and leftoids but what about the chuds?

>>51885846
The point was that both sides are awfully retarded and weaoonize cancel culture when benefiting to them but sure deflect some more, cracker

>>51886030
fair, which is why I know my take is shittier.
you have to admit though, these useless fucks speaking up against loli/shota are better off helping victims cope with surviving rather than resort to namecalling anyone who does no harm, even if it's technically true that there is some "irl attraction". but yeah, in this case, it's all fictional, so who cares?

>>51886268
How convenient to bring LE BOTH SIDES ARE LE BAD when the people going after her are gender confused left wingers.

>>51886462
NTA, but ok fine. I'll trust what you say you saw, that for Omocat's particular case, it's more left than right. anything else you'd like to tell the internet today?

>>51886623
Anti/pol/fags are not good at larping as radical centrists.

Next time be honest with your political stance.

>>51885846
I mean, cause and effect, really. would right-wingers play Omori? gamer dudebros only touch GTA and your average FPS. why the fuck would they care to play a game about depression if they think mental health is a scam?
it's not surprising leftists are the one cancelling, because MOST of the fans in the fanbase are leftists.

>>51886758
anyone who isn't affiliated with America is a centrist by default. I'm a fucking SEAfag, if that's not enough for you. I don't care much about /pol/, I just like laughing at both sides.

>>51886897
And radical centrists are bad at concealing their true political stances, my SEAchimp friend.

>>51886897
wow you're so cool a detached, laughing at both sides, even when there's only one side participating! you must love joking around

>>51885190
Again, she is more degenerate than she lets on. Her thing with loli isn't even sexual when it comes to what she says on stream.

>>51886796
what the fuck happened to this website holy shit

>>51887053
>there is only one side participating
in omocat's case, ftfy. I still remember the time a right wing dude shot up cans of bud light and recorded it on video. real cringe waste of money, if you ask me.
both do cancel culture at different things. but okay, you're very right and smart, it's basic etiquette that no one should bring up things not pertinent to the thread, including what conservatives did to rock music. thanks for the cool reminder!

>>51883940
anon i hate to break it to you but men are more attractive when they're younger

>>51887053
The "youre all retards for engaging in culture wars shit" schtick is what the anti/pol/ troon uses when the "le radical centrist" facade falls apart.

>>51887327
>omocat is getting hounded by leftoids
>"yeah but what about conservatives and rock music and this guy shooting beer cans"

For a centrist you are awfully dedicated to defend one side.

>>51887843
buddy, I'm gonna have a heart to heart with you, I just want to read loli porn, and the only 3-4 activists I know that support "enjoying whatever fictional content you like" have pride flags behind their pfp. you got me, I'm biased and am not centered enough. I'll try my best in the future!

>>51815662
i wasn't sorry to you anyway

>>51883940
Power, which is dumb because a 10 year old boy starts to overpower most women physically.

>>51888558
... are you speaking from experience, by any chance?

>>51888558

>>51888558
It's less physically, more mentally. It's the naivety that's attractive.

>>51888558
It's less about physical power, but more about mental power. It's the naivety of the little boy that's attractive.
t.shotacon

>>51812697
She's so based

>>51888924
fuck you're actually right. this is why bratty correction is also the huge appeal for lolicons. the fact that some brats think they won't be punished but then realizing how cruel the world can be IS fucking hot.

>>51889108
See? Women think that way too. Knowing that you can change a shota's little worldview is hot.

Based i really need a shotacon gf, also
>>51820044
>kids are just disgusting goblins and i feel the need to kick them when i see one crying and/or screaming
thanks anon, im gonna use that line whenever someone calls me out for liking loli and shota

>>51819972
You will never be a woman.

>>51820044
>kids are just disgusting goblins and i feel the need to kick them when i see one crying and/or screaming

That is a great way to broadcast that you are a mentally deranged child molester.

>>51889796
>shotacon gf
I met a shotacon girl back at uni years ago, she didn't believe I liked shotas too.

>>51890545
there it is, it does still run around. the whole "you're a man so it's impossible you are attracted to boys" mindset, for better or worse. I think we should all be allowed to like whatever in fiction. This is also why they don't suspect priests fucking up actual little boys. Society at large is too cautious about different-sex mingling and not about same-sex mingling.

>>51862781
>>51880332
>>51885470
Flare does not like shotas whatsoever. She's purely into lolis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlsIf_tke2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq5uBZjW6ZI

>>51893781
She is horny for her Splatoon character which is a shota. She doesn't let it show too much as Flare but her hidden twitter account made it obvious.

>>51894087
>but her hidden twitter account
Oh, I don't even follow any JP main twitter accounts so I had no clue. I guess she doesn't want to be seen as a rotten girl since shotacon girls often fall into that trope.

So if she's been"outed before, is she just being "re-outed" every time someone with a weird twitter profile comes across her for the first time and thinks they can gain clout by pwning a big name creator? I doubt many of her friends or acquaintances don't know she's a shotacon, probably ever trades doujinshi suggestions with mori. Wonder why none of them ever go after her friends for being okay with her

>>51812697
girl...

>>51895474
honestly agreed. internet retards just want a big punching bag. this is why they went after Pikamee too. someone who gives 0 shits with indifference can play Hogwarts just fine. the best course of action is to ignore and let their posts die in any place with interaction numbers. at least with /vt/ there's no real clout to really matter and be associated with anyone, except in their own heads.

>>51875762
Based, thank you

>>51812697
>shotacon vtuber
>instantly I follow, like and subscribe
god I wish they could be more open about it

>>51875762
God I wish she could be my older sister instead.

>you get de-aged back to 11 years old
>*owocat notices ur bulge*
How do you get out of this predicament?

>>51897159
is "de-aged" here just physical and not mentally? I would definitely accept her advances if so. otherwise I guess I'm fucked and traumatized for life not understanding what's happening since my parents told me women can do no wrong at that age and I haven't learned.

>>51897159
At that age I'd probably still be taller and stronger than her so unless she's pretty good at talking I could just walk away. In reality though I'd stay since I was also aware of women at that age.

>>51889490
utterly based

>>51889074
Based on what?

>>51883940
cute aggression

>>51890545
I'll never forget when I saw a girl watching Lotte no Omocha on her laptop in a public area back when I was in college.

>>51898773

>>51898773
Was my favourite chapter for sure.

why are shotacon women so attractive?

>>51900785
Because imagining.

This became a kiddyfiddler circlejerk thread real quick

>>51901375
I am a shotaconcon.
I want to fuck shotacon women.

>>51901490
>healthy
This is cute because you can tell she just directly translated "Genki" into English.

>>51900785
they just are

>>51812697
>>outed for liking little boys
based

>>51897159
>How do you get out of this predicament?
I don't. She can wring me dry

>>51901490
The post wasn't for you
I make a guilty exception for pochi after all

>>51901490
Pochi love!!!

>>51812697
I wish I were young again just so she could have her way with me

>>51884117
little girls have been a staple of delight for centuries

>>51901375
You misunderstand. I am the one who wishes to be fiddled

>>51875762
sex

>>51815420
cute feet

>>51830339
im trying to pinpoint when twitter became such an infestation of ironic weebs who thinks their righteous and loves to virtue signal. i swear it wasnt like this before...

>>51908047
When Tumblr banned porn and the literal mass migration of tumblrtards flocked to twitter

>>51908122
True.

>>51907765
truly blessed below the waist with those legs and feet

Is Omocat's game good for you?

>>51913190
It made her a (probably multi) millionaire so it doesn't matter if I like it or not

>JP vtubers get to be rampant lolicons and shotacons
>EN vtubers need to hide it even if they only stream for weebs
why

>>51913659
Because fags and tourists invaded vtubing a long time ago

>>51913659
Because the rest of the world's society isn't like Japanese society

>>51815420
Don't really care about the porn and all but this was a surprisingly good game. It might be an even better EBIRPG than Lisa which I also really liked. Bopper soundtrack too especially Sweetheart's theme.

>>51913802
they don't stream for the world's society they stream for weebs and other assortments of subhumans

>>51820044
>kids are just disgusting goblins and i feel the need to kick them when i see one crying and/or screaming
Trying too hard. A simple declaration would have sufficed but you being hyperbolic about it only makes it suspicious.

>>51852357
>>51884866
Pedos wouldn't be pedos if they could help it. It's something completely out of their control that they can't change and therefore I could never find it in myself to assign them blame if they never harmed a soul.

>>51812697
Who? This is enough to make me watch her

>>51914960
pretty much, like i said, so long as they dont touch real children or consume the real pizza, im more than willing to accept them for who they are. Fantasies aren't a crime.

>>51914960
I disagree, in many cases fetishes are just a learned behavior and could be un-learned too.
That said, I don’t have any problem with them if they keep it to 2D. Omocat did nothing wrong.

>>51885274
You don't have to be a troon to be anti/pol/. The difference between this site back in say 2012, and 2015 when /pol/ started exerting its influence over the rest of the site is night and day. 4chan was a lot less political before 'that' US election, or at the very least the political dichotomy of its users was a lot less pronounced.

>>51915076
Omocat, aritst, one of the creators of Omori and has an official HoloEN clothing line thanks thanks to a few of them, especially Mori, being a fan of her stuff

She's got a great voice

>>51915293
When has conversion therapy ever really worked? At most it causes you to suppress your true desires behind layers of trauma, but its never really unlearned.
I for one have never heard of a single case where someone with a sexually deviant fetish reverts. As far as I'm concerned its an innate thing that is 'discovered' rather than 'learned'.

>>51915421
>especially Mori
Because Mori is a Shotacon that was lusting after the boys in Omori until her chat started getting onto her about their age, making her quickly backtrack.

>>51819972
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>51913659
Gura never hid it. Sayu doesn't hide it.

>>51916074
Gura streams so infrequently that most people forgot, and Sayu filtered a lot of her audience with the joke that got her terminated, so the ones that are left aren't the canceling type

>>51812697
>realizes her fanbase was built on omori
>omori fans are literally autistic neurodivergent colored flag twitterfags
>same group who are explicitly against lolisho
>has to bend knee to save her brand
it's a shame really

>>51915601
>causes you to suppress your true desires behind layers of trauma
This isn't necessarily true and why is there assumed trauma? So what if you are suppressing your desire for something immoral and destructive? They should be commended for living a respectable sex life and not giving into their demons.
>>51916188
Her frequency of streams is irrelevant. Since around 2021, she's been an unashamed lolicon. Sayu did the best thing she could by not backing off of liking shota. It was the best kind of gatekeeping you could do by filtering Twitter cunts and sensitive normies.

>>51812697
>instantly apologizes
this is the only thing she did wrong. Shotastacies are the cunnychads of the next-best gender

>>51914960
well, now that's even further. for the most part I agree. just that I'd think it's not that they can't "change" it, it's that therapy is fucking expensive and there's not a lot of competent professionals out there who would actually be able to make a difference in a reasonable amount of time, but I'd like to think it's still possible. we just live in a shitty world where everything is a luxury.

>>51884866
You're still a pedo, just not a child molestor or sex offender. Big, BIG distinction between committing a crime, and just having thoughts or inclinations in your brain.

>>51915293
Source on anyone successfully unlearning a fetish without getting their nuts chopped off?

>>51917504
behavioral and military camps are extremely effective for this

>>51917439
As far as the general public is concerned, “pedo” means all of things regardless of the actual definition of the word. The ones that use it don’t bother to make the distinction.

The great litmus test

>>51863154
clarevoir

>>51916322
>This isn't necessarily true and why is there assumed trauma?
Conversion therapy can be a traumatic experience. Ask anyone who's ever under gone it. Suppressing something as critical to the self as sexuality isn't the same as trying not to laugh in a church. Even then, we're back to whether suppression is really a cure.

>>51917944
Fags who enter the military don't become straight. They just become closeted homosexuals. There's a reason the US Army enacted DADT.

>>51916782
Its sad that some people have to get chemically castrated a la Alan Turing because of how they're wired. Gynoid sex bots cannot get here fast enough.

>>51920386
Suppressing pedophilia is better than expressing it on a child, right? In that case, endure the trauma. Just because something feels good and natural to you doesn't make it right. Rapist like raping but it's still wrong.

>>51920860
I wasn't arguing against preventative measures like that. I was arguing against the idea that sexuality can be unlearned or 'turned off'. That's not how humans work. Pedophiles can medically suppress their urges but the urges will still be there. Hell, doubtless most of the /uoh/ lolifuckers among us right now are closeted pedophiles who've never harmed a hair on a real child's head.

>>51916523
She didn’t say she isn’t still a shotacon, nor did she apologize for being a shotacon. It just seems like boilerplate vagueness as a safety measure since she has an entire company with employees to look after now rather than just being a crazy teenage weeaboo webcomic artist. She has mentioned that questions about her being a shotacon have come up during her business dealings before so re-addressing it formally at the start of a new venture makes sense.

>>51915601
>conversion therapy
Fetishes are learned, conditioned behavior. Sexual pleasure serves as the reward that reinforces the conditioning as the fetish becomes linked to that sexual pleasure, becoming sexual in and of itself to the fetishist over time.
I have no problem with omocat being a shotacon and remaining one, but it isn’t some magical precondition that was always intrinsically part of her from the moment she was born.

>>51917439
Well technically suisei is a hebephile rather than a pedophile.

>ywn be 11 years old and have kissing practice with your 16 year old tomboy cousin again
take me back bros

>>51923241
>tfw you are the eldest child of your generation, and you almost never saw your female cousins to begin with
Reincarnation, please be real...

>>51923241
all my female cousins are ugly as fuck. i have an older sister with tits bigger than her head though.

>>51919037
is that the guy that said the hard R word

>>51923241
Wincest > Shotacon

>>51924220
these are not mutually exclusive, in fact its not unheard of for older sisters to use younger brothers to try things out

>apologizing for liking something
Cringe

>>51886030
>>51886305
I dont think being attracted to people or drawings with a "young look" to them makes one a pedo.
Neoteny is generally considered attractive and has become more prevalent in humans throughout our evolutionary history in a process whose name is as real as it is hilarious: Paedomorphosis. Sexual selection causing us to retain more and more childlike features into adulthood.
I think real pedos get off to the idea of forcefully corrupting (though they might use different terms) an ACTUAL child before they reach the developmental stage where they would naturally start thinking about sex.

i dated a girl back in college who was really into lolishota stuff and would have me roleplay as a little boy sometimes
it was not fun. i do not recommend it

>>51924430
>its not unheard of for older sisters to use younger brothers to try things out

>>51925642
The big issue is that it seems as though most shotacon women are also fujoshi.

>>51925837
she was also a fujo and half of the roleplay involved us pretending to be the little faggots from hunter x hunter

>>51924639
She literally didn't.

>>51898773
I'm not 100% into the subject matter, but Iida Pochi is my fucking heroine. I own most of her work and will someday own all of it, just for the pure respect I have for her.
Plus Chiyo is hot of course.

>>51812697
She fucked up. NEVER apologize, NEVER acknowledge twitter cancel-cultists. Gura from holoEN was told by her chat to not say "loli" out loud and she straight up said it anyway and asked why they were scared of a 4 letter word. And she's as public as you can get with vtubers AND this happened while she was still very active.

Never, ever give in. The only reason I even imagine she bothered was because she has a legitimate clothing business and didn't want people to fuck with it, but still, it's a mistake to give attention to psychos that immediately started to look up your past for shit they can hurt you with.

>>51925699
It is hard to believe their kid is over 4 years old now.

>>51915607
Clip?

>>51922722
When is a fetish a fetish and not a sexual orientation? Is an attraction towards women as a straight man fetishism? Is homosexuality fetishism? Would you say a person who can only be aroused by dogs has a sexual orientation towards canines or a fur fetish?
The truth is we don't know why some people end up as pedophiles. The idea that all deviant sexual behavior arises externally has yet to be definitively proven. Personally, while I believe nurture has a hand in shaping the psyche of people, nature remains the dominant force behind developing sexual interests.

tl;dr lolicons exist in a vacuum.

>>51924639
She "apologized" as much as the Japs did for comfort women.

>>51922722
>it isn’t some magical precondition that was always intrinsically part of her from the moment she was born.
Assuming you are a straight male, if I exposed you to pictures of nude bara men getting assfucked when you were a child, would you be a bear seeking faggot as an adult? Or do you just have innate preferences that are a part of you?

>>51928462
There are people out there with a fetish for fucking, or being fucked by, automobiles. Not carriages or chariots, automobiles. Are you saying you believe that these people were born with a nature that predestines them for fucking automobiles as their fixation?
Automobiles have been around for less than two hundred years, if someone can be born to fuck trucks does that mean that for tens of thousands of years people have been born with a predestined nature that drives them to fuck automobiles without automobiles even existing yet?
Did they lead tragic lives, doing the best they could with this automobile shaped hole in their souls (and perhaps vaginas)? Waking up at night in a cold sweat as something their mind that they can’t possibly fathom calls out to them with a revving motor and blaring horn?

>>51928976
>Don’t watch an anime called Boku!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6go6EOuG4

>>51925621
Paraphrasing Stabler from L&O:SVU, there's a difference between regular pedos and abusers, since the one you mention as "real pedo" would be an abuser.

>>51925699
Fuck. Also, younger sister, but you reminded me of that one /a/ post about Kari from Digimon.

>>51929222
Objectophilia has existed since time immemorial. People in ancient Greece fall in love with statues but scorn real people. A woman in France marries the Eiffel Tower. Hell some people on this board are in love with unrealistically drawn 2D women. This is just another offshoot of it.

>>51929222
Tell me anon, do you believe a person is born tabula rasa?

>>51928976
For that metaphor to work there would need to be a normal sexual and pleasurable element to it so it could progress. A better example would be traps, where the semi-female form combines with the shock and taboo during normal sexual pursuit into a fetish of its own, wherein what was once a trap to be avoided becomes the object of fixation itself as these people transition (pardon the pun) to purposefully seeking out dudes with the knowledge they are men from the get-go.
If you were to sexually abuse a child while exposing them to a certain element, I have no doubt you could often get that element to become sexually associated as well. Victims of child abuse are more likely to become abusers themselves for example.
This conversation is starting to rather drift away from praising shotacon vtubers though, a topic I much prefer.

>>51834903
The funny thing is that there is no evidence to show that loli enjoyers sexually molest children more than the general population, just like there's no evidence that enjoying violent video games makes you a more violent person.

>>51930212
>If you were to sexually abuse a child while exposing them to a certain element, I have no doubt you could often get that element to become sexually associated as well.
>Victims of child abuse are more likely to become abusers themselves for example.
So pedophiles can only arise from sexually abused children? How do you account for those who aren't? Nature vs nurture. Some people are made, some people just are.

>>51834903
Let's see it then.

>>51930377
>there is no evidence to show that loli enjoyers sexually molest children more than the general population
There is, however, a lot of anecdotical evidence of loli antis at least sexually harassing children more than the general population.
https://archive.is/iro2V

>>51930092
>Objectophilia
That is much broader. Someone that wants to fuck automobiles doesn’t want to also fuck the Eiffel Tower or a chair. Just cars. Is that an intrinsic part of who they are from the moment they were born, and would he even before cars existed?
Or Are you saying if they didn’t have cars they would want to fuck horse drawn carriages instead, and it was just the car exposure that got them first? In that sense a shotacon only likes shota due to exposure and would love something similar such as adult men instead?

>>51930472
>>51930631
FAST!

>>51930753
Why do you like women? Is it learned behavior or something innate?

>>51922722
Pedophiles are a holdover from ancient times when life expectancy was so low that in order to keep the population afloat, our genes predisposed us towards mating with females who had just become breedable. It's toddlershit that should be considered a fetish, and a repugnant one at that since I cannot fathom any evolutionary benefit for babyfuck.

It's not like one replaces the other. I imagine most people who are lolicons/shotacons don't exclusively like loli/shota and can enjoy someone with a body like Noel or Roberu too.

>>51812697
I don't give a fuck about this drama, I would stuff my dick in every hole in Omocat's body

>>51931334
based

>>51930209
No, of course not. That is too absolute. I also don’t think people are born with certain paraphilias already instilled in them in the womb, waiting to blossom. I have paraphilia of my own (thanks 4chan!) and have at times thought about and tracked how it has developed and progressed over the years; I do not believe it was something that was always going to be a part of me. You can learn to like something or learn to hate it.
I won’t say that there are not people with mental illnesses that warp their mind in ways they cannot control but that would be the rare exception rather than the norm. It would not be the case with Omocat, Sayu, Mori, Marine, Elira, Pochi etc. Even Marine has talked about how she realized her Shota Complex was getting out of hand and stopped herself before she could molest actual little boys, and now she can enjoy porn with high schoolers instead of only with little boys.

>>51930753
Actually some studies of pedophilia in child sex offenders have correlated it with various neurological abnormalities and psychological pathologies. These same studies suggest that there are one or more neurological characteristics present at birth that cause or increase the likelihood of being pedophilic. It is phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual orientation.

>>51930925
Are you saying all sexual desire is the same as a paraphilia, and is just learned behavior?
Stop arguing in bad faith.

>>51931449
Like I said, I personally believe that nature has a more dominant presence in our development compared to nurture. Some people are just born how they are, and none of us get to choose what we like. But i'm willing to let any psyche anons here prove me wrong if I am.

>>51931459
Link the studies.

>>51931459
>various neurological abnormalities and psychological pathologies
Reminds me of an SVU episode where a high school teacher became a pedo after her brain tumor messed with her head.

>her drama is more talked about then her vtuber debut

DOA She'll probably quit within the year. Probably waiting for that hololive clout to leech.

>>51931132
> Pedophiles are a holdover from ancient times when life expectancy was so low that in order to keep the population afloat, our genes predisposed us towards mating with females who had just become breedable.
That is literally hebephilia like with Suisei, not pedophilia which by definition is before puberty.
>It's toddlershit that should be considered a fetish, and a repugnant one at that since I cannot fathom any evolutionary benefit for babyfuck.
IT’SSS AWWWWRIGHT

>>51931674
Too lazy. Here have the wiki page and crawl through the references.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia#cite_note-setocause-16

>>51931778
Eh, drama is normal at launch. Look at what people talked about with the HoloENs.
It'll probably stabilize soon enough, 4chan just has a preference for drama and shotacons so of course it will get some additional attention.

>>51931778
omocat's collabed with pokemon
i think she's already good

>>51812697
>>51812875
>>51884317
You have two options
>stubbornly don't apologize and lose everything and no one wants to do anything with you except some losers from 4chan
>apologize and keep it private, have a slight chance to get some normalcy after people get bored (there will still be antis but that was inevitable)
yeah I think it's an easy choice

>>51821821
It’s not really about depression it’s more…repression

>>51932627
What would a shotacon like Omocat know a bout repressing things I wonder?

>>51929963
not necessarily since in my view, real pedos are just those who get off to the idea of such abuse, not necessarily people who actually do it.

>>51932614
Option 3: Nothing. Don't acknowledge the controversy in any way. Bullies lose interest when they don't get any reaction from the one they're harassing.

>>51934362
Heh, this reminds me of that one thread that started as a Nyanners thread and then devolved into the weirdest of tangents.

Shotacon Sex Soon

>>51934952
The baffling part to me is how the "born this way" argument is meant to change the opinion of any serious person at all. if a trait can be seen as negative or positive, then the fact of it being inborn would only make it moreso, it wouldnt flip it from bad to ok, or vice versa.
These threads are fun

>>51938182
>maybe she's born with it...