/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

i cant stand her voice and whenever i actually listen to what shes commenting on i can feel my braincells going into lockdown

>>51767307
Even when I still watched vtubers, I found Kiara's enthusiasm kind of forced and annoying. To this day, she's firmly in
>I respect the hell out of her, but don't find her entertaining
territory, for me.

She sucks

>>51767307
too annoying and cringe
also, she is basically a niji

>>51767307
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
Her voice is grating to most Americans. Her best moments are on off collabs where she's having so much fun she drops character and uses her normal voice. Or that one donation from the kid in the hospital that made her cry and break character and talk normally.

her raspy chicken voice is like steel wool up a urethra

>>51767446
She has moments like when she says she didn't like bubba that just make you face palm
might just be a euro thing
>>51767516
Her normal voice is actually really soothing

>>51767307
esl debuff

>>51767307
I respect Kiara, she truly works hard. But her energy is too much, both alone and in collabs. I love her songs (originals, covers and fanmande mixes) but I can't watch her for more than an hour. That's why I like girltalk so much.

>>51767307
Shame about the voice

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>>51767680
>Still falling for the voice meme
that never was a problem, just admit you are a samefagging egg schizo hater

>>51767307
So why is this guy spamming the catalog with similar variations of this bait every other day?

Kiara is my girlfriend.

Don't care, more Wawa for me

>>51767781
ogey

>>51767307
As an idolfag, I respect her. But her personality kills it. She’s a hard worker so she deserves any incline she gets. also
>holojp favorite
major cope. jps barely invite her to anything. she has the advantage of being one of the only ENs that speak JP, that’s it

>>51767781
Her voice is fine, I just find her annoying. She's like a waitress at a theme restaurant who forces more enthusiasm than she has, because she thinks if she just works harder she'll get promoted to manager eventually.
Oddly specific analogy, but if you've dealt with waitstaff like that, you know how accurate I am there.

>>51767307
Ditch the retarded chicken voice, I’ve heard her RM’s voice it sounds perfectly fine. Why she chose to put on that voice is beyond me.

>>51767781
b-but I didn't mention her voice

>>51767794
There were several people that were celebrating Kiara's failed idol dreams and were convinced she could never find a stable, well paying career as an entertainer/youtuber/singer etc..
When she got hired by Cover, it was like a slap in the face for these people. She might even be more successful/richer than these people. So its one of those guys/girls that are still butthurt and still holds a grudge.

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>>51767958
>Rent free
take your meds schizo

>>51767908
Unironically the favorite is Gura she’s even okayu’s oshi.

>>51767307
Kiara said
>She stopped commenting in Gura's streams because chat members would be unwelcoming
and also expressed her annoyance with Gura's fanbase by claiming
>Gura has a lot of viewers that only watch her and not other holos.
Is it jealousy, insecurities or what? Seems really rude to talk about your friends fanbase like that.

>>51768025
I hope you know how schizo you sound. This is the Internet you can check how popular her channel as well as the others used to be before debut. You’re either a complete newfag believing what retards say or the schizo spreading lies almost all of them were unknown failures

>>51767307
SHE NEEDS TO STOP DOING THE LESBIAN YURI SHIT. Like oh god. Just try doing a GFE stream. Just once. Don't be my idol. Be my gf.

>>51768103
I literally just don't have time. Covid is over bruh.

She's already being rewarded by topping the SC charts, and KFP gets to keep a cozy sized community. Whoever is complaining is retarded.

>>51767307
Making cute sounds and being a lazy woman trumps hard work carrying a chicken voice

>>51767781
I'm the anon that said she sucks. When did I mention her voice?

I came back around to liking her recently, but for me it was those first few months that just didn't do it for me. I didn't bother even acknowledging any of her streams, tweets, or collabs she was in.
But you're right, she's a hell of a worker and she gained my respect.
Honestly wish I came back sooner.

>>51768049
I think she’s only the favorite with JPs that don’t interact with ENs. She’s le cute “a” shark and also the highest subbed in the company so everyone will be nice to her regardless. I’d bet money if you asked Towa, Lui, Nene, Mel, Sora, Mio who their favorite EN was they wouldn’t say gura. She’s just a mascot

>>51767307
the world isn't fair sadly
and first impressions count for a lot

>>51768103
But chumsharts actually are the worst fanbase. And I say this as a non-KFP who criticized Kiara's voice.

>>51768524
>people can't possibly like Gura
>the only people that actually like her do it for cynical reasons
Wow, you're annoying.

>>51768739
>people can't possibly like Gura
Yes.

>>51768785
Okay, you're dumb. Good for you. Not sure what you gain by being this delusional, but you do you.

>>51768873
Seethe, cuck. Don't forget to put your monthly deposit in on tonight's forced shark stream

>>51768739
Sound a little butthurt chumbie. It’s okay, I’m sure in 200 more years gura will start doing her JP reps and really become a true idol shork

>>51768916
>repeating NPC lines like a drooling programmed drone
I like how you think insulting the JPs for being cynical opportunists is a good thing.

>>51768931
Okay? Why are you so angry?

>>51767781
Here have a (you). I'll take one too if you don't mind.>>51767644
I listen to her songs, so I have no problem with her voice, i thought that would be obvious enough. I have a problem with her attitude, too jumpy. It's the complete opposite of Kronii (who I watch even less). If you are quick, you can see the contrast between them right now. They are still playing Diablo IV.

>>51768168
I thought she was actually a lesbian?

>>51767307
Drop*clap*the*clap*chicken*clap*voice*clap

>>51767307
I dont watch Hololive..but if i had to, i would exclusively watch Kiara.

>>51769147
Lol no. She just have a trauma about men.

>>51767307
Time zones and voice combo

>>51767307
happy reminder that irl shes a libtard western woman Who worships blm and hate his own people... she only wants your suppas anon

>>51769031
? I’m not angry. I’m just saying the truth. No JP who has interacts with EN would say that Gura is their favorite. She doesn’t collab or stream so how is she supposed to be any of their favorites when they don’t even know her

>>51768145
See this Newfag. These are the people that were 'following' her just to see her fail in her past life that are butthurt now
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>>51769566
What is there to talk to you about? She never collabed with them? Like ever? No one? She's never streamed ever? Saying you're being uncharitable is an understatement. You're just being a shithead, and that's the best case scenario. The worst is you just don't know anything.

>>51768103
The hostile chat thing isn't even true. You can look it up and count how many people tell her to go away. There aren't many gura streams where kiara enters so it should be easy. An autist managed to do it once.
She got one guy'd

>>51769588
Oh wow. As far as I can tell, I have never seen her say or post anything political since hololive. So these guys are still mad at her since 2020 ??

>>51769311

yea let’s just ignore all the good things about her and the fact that she’s carrying holomyth because she’s against racism

>>51769566
Doesn’t Okayu publicly talk about how much she loves Gura? Shion seems to like her a lot too.

>>51769880
>2020
LMAO
These guys have been mad at her since 2012 anon. More than a decade ago. The seethe after they found out she was 'Kiara' is the most funniest and satisfying seethe I have ever seen.

>>51767307
shes not charismatic and fun, shes that annoying bossy gf you start to hate because shes constantly on your back

>>51769745
This all started because an anon (maybe you?) said gura was the favorite. I said yes but only to the ones who don’t collab with EN. Look at the people who regularly collab with EN, out of those people who could you genuinely say has Gura as their favorite? You’re clearly ultra sensitive when it comes to the shart so feel free to not respond if it’s only gonna hurt your feelings more

>>51767307
Kiara is one of the top EN streamers in the world for fucks sake, what more do you guys want, her to get 20k CCV every stream?

>>51770406
Yes.

>>51770406
>what more do you guys want
Attention. They want attention. Just like their oshi, they are attention whores

>>51767307
She is also 'authentic' GFE.
You get to deal with her woman moments and emotional swings without anything to show for it.

>>51770171
Yup, okayu owns a fuck ton of gura merch and her and shion had thing for a while. I’m just referring to JPs who collab with EN. I’m not even trying to trying to be mean, I just think she’s “the favorite” cause she’s the company mascot

>>51767307
Nothing, Gura's just been at it longer. She has seniority and brought a pre-existing fanbase with her. Also, people have been wondering what the shit happened to gura, so obviously there's going to be an influx.

Doesn't have a strong enough filter. Too cringe. Rarely jumps on the hit bandwagon games or stream ideas.

Kiara is an acquired taste and appeals to a niche audience. She doesn't want to reinvent herself and try to expand the demographic, and that's fine.

She gives a shit, tries, and has an impeccable work ethic. Compared to God given entertainment talent like Gura, she has to bust her ass to find a fifth of the electric charisma. It's admirable.

>>51770307
NTA. Let's be very clear what you flipped off on:
>Unironically the favorite is Gura she’s even okayu’s oshi.
Why were you so offended by this one line?
>Look at the people who regularly collab with EN, out of those people who could you genuinely say has Gura as their favorite?
So is their favourite Kiara then? Why are you posing hypotheticals and then expecting people to just fall on your side of the argument? Which EN is the favourite of "Towa, Lui, Nene, Mel, Sora, Mio" then? Don't you have an answer?
Marine swoons over Gura. Okayu, too. Shion collabs with Gura the most out of any EN. I'm not the one that made this a dumb competition in this bait thread. If you want to make it a competition of which between the two of them are favourited by more HoloJP members, put up or shut up.
>You’re clearly ultra sensitive when it comes to the shart so feel free to not respond if it’s only gonna hurt your feelings more
Stop being a child.

>>51767307
>The HoloJP favorite
Kek that is Samechan the pet

>>51767397
The voice is no longer annoying. It mellowed out like how all their puton voices mellow out when they can no longer be bothered or capable of sustaining it.

>>51767307
streaming while most vtuber fans on Youtube are at work or in school

i like her but she streams too much so i cant watch it all and im always out of the loop. for that reason i can never be a real kfp.

>>51770820
My lord
> Why were you so offended by this one line?
Was never offended, just think the statement was wrong
>So is their favourite Kiara then?
Nope. I’m sure it differs from person to person. I just think it’s baffling to say gura is the favorite when there’s no interactions. Is that such an crazy concept to believe? In order for someone to like each other they should maybe have talked or kept in contact. I don’t even care about this anymore. Cope, cry, seethe, go back to eddit, ur moms gay, and your oshi sucks

>>51771743
>I just think it’s baffling to say gura is the favorite when there’s no interactions. Is that such an crazy concept to believe?
What do you know about their interaction?

>>51767307
Her design. Girl has it worse than Azki did years ago. Two hats, tangerine orange with neon green? Please someone help her not be an eyesore. She is adorable otherwise.

>>51773377
that + her voice/accent.

really though I'd say the primary difficulty is her stream hours - she's very-definitely neither NA or JP hours (even ID can't easily see her I don't think). she tries to accomodate other times sometimes but the norm is that she's streaming at like 6am or something for me and I'm not gonna watch that even if it's the weekend. maybe I will try to catch the tail end of a stream or something if it isn't a JRPG or something. which reminds me, yes she streams often and for long hours - but it's often games that IMHO just don't tend to be good stream material, even if you're talented as an entertainer JRPGs just throw a wet blanket onto you. not all her content is that, but a lot of it is, that and like 6 hour superchat reads (which often are like zatsus but I dunno, I just don't care about her enough to bear with that).

>>51773377
There's a reason why you'll never see her wear her 2d default when streaming regularly.

>>51768168
She hates men

>>51773678
guess I should also correct myself pre-emptively and say I fucking hate zelda botw/tok streams too, and she's been playing that a ton lately. it's not just a kiara thing, I will not watch anyone play that. maybe that's just a me thing but I think it's a boring ass game to watch. it's slow, there's not much to react to, a lot of it is a walking simulator etc. that's all fine for the ambiance and experience playing it solo like intended - it just isn't that exciting to watch however.

>>51767307
Her roommate is way too easy to find, exposing a lot of bad shit she's into, then you have the fact that she just isn't fun to watch, awful chicken voice and her selection of games goes from "meh" to "awful" so yeah, no thanks.

Of course, some people do enjoy watching her for some reason or another, same with Ina who's arguably even more boring.

>>51767307
everyone recognizes kiara for the time and effort she puts in, unfortunately for her she lacks the innate broad appeal of someone like gura, and there really isn't anything she can do about it

>>51773879
Her nudes are pretty sweet tho

>>51771274
No, it still drives me absolutely insane. Maybe it's because I know what she COULD sound like, but she refuses to, so it irks me that much more

>>51768524
Does Mio even know EN exists? I've never heard this hag say anything about them.

>>51767307
Always relevant Pasta:

okay lets work backwards. and im not gonna just refer to times she LITERALLY talks about numbers, but times where she shows that she thinks she is most deserving of "the spotlight"

rather than celebrate hinotori reaching 3 mil, she randomly posts it at 2.9mil to try and pump it up to 3. https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1440029878976270340?s=20 sure this alone is very minor but it comes with a history.

just before that she was griping and complaining about umisea, barely a single word congratulating them but like 5 minutes about how holobirds should get the same treatment, meanwhile more than half of hololive doesn't get this treatment. again not recognizing that others who worked harder and longer don't get support either, but somehow thinking she deserves it, when we all know the reason why umisea is a thing is because Cover wants to market as much stuff as they can with gura and aqua is another very popular talent for marketability (look at how many cross promotions she gets) marine and ina mostly fall in to the theme but also round out the sound and both are good conversationalists so they keep communication good. mostly it's about the marketability of two of the most popular talents. not about it being "international" or anything like that. rather than recognize the gap in marketability. rather than be excited for her friends gura, ina, and marine. instead all she has to say about it is she wants what they got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0xxtf0hgek [Embed]

1 year anniversary stream, besides constantly bursting out over gura's song: there's an often overlooked moment when they go on the stage to do SSS at the end. everyone else lines up to the sides, because they know ame is the "center" she always has been since before debut. meanwhile kiara bee-lines straight for the center mic, you don't hear ame say it, but you hear kiara's response when shes asked to move off to another spot. setting aside that ame has been classified as the center, and she put in all the work and money to set up the collab: she is holding the camera and CLEARLY needs to stand in the middle to get the good angle.
https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k?t=4630 [Embed]

she whined about the managers making council "more powerful" as if anyone freaking cares, goes on a minute long rant about it, when it's clear none of the others REALLY care. kinda bashing her kouhai's characters before they even get started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBo3H9JFHg [Embed]

When she dropped sparks she was obviously trying to prove something to cover or her manager, I can't find a clip of it, and I don't remember what stream it was, but she made a big deal of how "please stream it a lot, it's important". idk if she wanted to do a live or what, but its obvious she wanted some kinda deal or something and needed to prove she had enough "pull". whatever it was she was really stressing that she needed a lot of views/plays on this one. again not seeming to be focused on making good content, or relying on natural growth, but instead basically begging fans to pump up her numbers. after months of "stream heart challenger".

before that it was knocking Ina for getting 1 mil first, before that it was complaining about how stuff was getting lower views after she moved back to austria, before that it was getting broken up about finally passing ina, before that it was being upset about "being the last to 500k" (meanwhile towa and aki were like sub 300k)

again, she's getting BETTER but she still has problems she needs to address before i'm gonna consider her "over it"

>>51767307
She'd be a 2view without the blue dorito.

>>51773842

For good reason. I'll be she wishes she was gay.

>>51774686
and a 3view if she had the same shitty attitude/lazy no effort work ethic many of the other ENs do. kiara basically swims against the current / goes against the grain of some large and permanent debuffs (ugly model, bad stream hours etc). if she let go and stopped fighting it'd be bad, real bad. but she puts in the time and effort and doesn't bullshit around with things and I think that's actually pretty admirable, at least as far as vtubers go. normally "wow she actually does her job and respects her customers" wouldn't be a big complement at all, it'd be what you just fucking expect - but in vtubing, especially holoEN, it is.

>>51767307
>annoying orange

>>51767307
I tried but got filtered hard. sorry bro

>>51767307
Because you get faggots like this >>51767397 >>51767516 who watched one stream of hers 3 years ago and got filtered by her voice. It's a pretty good indicator that you're talking to a chumbud or a pippanigger who watches vtubers ironically.

The chicken voice is a killer but also she streams at bad times for the majority of English speaking fans.

I really don't get why she insists on keeping the voice though, just say you have to change it because it's damaging your throat. That's what Suisei did and people accepted it and she hasn't even shown us a picture of her throat pussy like Kiara has.

>>51775747
3 years later her voice still sounds like shit and she deserves her numbers to shrink

tl;dr I just want to shit in her mouth

Voice, nothing more, nothing less

She is a rly good entertainer and omfg is she a boss when it comes to work ethic, + her esl sometimes makes for great kino. I used to watch her occasionally 3 - 5 years ago, but as soon as she started with that retarded voice i just couldn't watch her anymore

>>51767307
Be fair anon, she's also getting beet by the other 8 active members of Hololive EN too.

Of course she's making a good living, has a substantial core audience that loves her, and is more successful than 99% of English language vtubers. You decide which perspective you think is better.

>>51775964 (me)
+ she streams at the best time possible, being the only on i can watch live besides shylily, and live is just more fun than vodwatching, idk why since the content stays the same but it is what it is

Kiara is just an undercover nijinigger, it's no wonder she gets along so well with them.

>>51776373
Aren’t you supposed to be in /#/ having your schizo meltdown?

>>51776583
Uhh, why?
That's literally why she has shitty views, same with Mori and Bae.

>>51767307
She is just not very entertaining, and her fanbase is as annoying as she is.

>>51767516
>Her best moments are on off collabs where she's having so much fun she drops character and uses her normal voice
>>51767584
>Her normal voice is actually really soothing
Links?
I have unironically never heard her make anything other than annoying chicken noises.

The voice meme is so funny to me because it's changed so much over the years, her debut clips are virtually unrecognizable.
And I know people never complained about it as much back when she was actually hated, so I get the impression it's just cope by NPC's because they ran out of other reasons to call her shit.

>>51767397
There was a guy on here once who said he hates her voice and posted an IRyS image, later in hlgg the same image got posted with a comment on how awesome Luna is.
Some people are just fucking crazy, they told themselves they hate Kiara so much that it's now part of their personality.

>>51774439
what kind of autism is this.

>>51767307
Disgusting germoid. Will not watch, simple as.

>>51767307
No, she has an annoying personality. I can watch her every once in a while but I would hate her guts if I were a regular. It's just what she is

I just don’t like her accent.

>>51767307
Anon didn't bae's stream teach you anything?
The west only cares about funny meme culture
gura never would have made it in the east

>>51768036
>Topic is about Kiara
>retarded ass little nigger: RENT FREE RENT FREE

>>51767307
>what is she doing wrong?
Having a bad start, people would rather invest in new people than giving a second chance to someone they deemed unworthy a long time ago.

>people say her voice has changed
>open zelda stream from 1 day ago
>watch for a few minutes
>voice is still annoying

I have to say her voice is fine sometimes when she talks slower and is less excited. Still not as good as her roommate's voice. Sorry Kiara, I'll rather watch vtubers whose voice I enjoy.

>>51779355
People say the same shit about Bae, makes me think they're just clipniggers talking out of their asses.

>>51779355
>Look at RMs videos
>Exact same voice
She's fucked her voice up permanently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NVVRBVYIdU

You niggers really need to make this thread every few days to jerk yourself off huh

>>51767307
Destroyed her momentum by playing mostly jrpgs. Also she barely gets collabs and was excluded out of several group buff game arcs.

>>51767307
>her voice
This is the main problem. It's a little high pitched and gets irritating over a long period of listening. It's the same reason for Marine. Fine in small doses but I can never dedicate hours of listenting to them. Kiara is also mostly the straight faced one so less memery. But she doesn't need to be at the top. She's successful enough.

>>51777032
Links could lead to a ban, but I remember once she was streaming with myth and they all said their goodbyes and thought the stream was over but was still on, and Kiara dropped the chicken voice and complained about one of her announcements not getting attention from chat, is a few and its been years, but thats the one incident that made me a current voice hater cuz she is way more enjoyable with her normal voice, if you follow kiara long enough YouTube will just throw roommate vids to you sooner or later and yeah I just prefer her normal voice

>>51779771
Nah Bae clearly uses a lower voice when she's just chatting or focusing on a game. When she's excited or anything though that high pitched screech comes right back out.

>>51767307
>what is she doing wrong?

All you listed isn't worth anything if she isn't entertaining to watch.

>>51781325
I've seen her RM vids, they don't sound any different.

>>51767307
She's fucking annoying. Also gives me bitch vibes most of the time when she interacts with Mumei.

>>51782152
To be fair to Kiara, Mumei is almost certainly the orcschizo that started every vt rumor about Kiara.

>>51780727
>There were several people that were celebrating Kiara's failed idol dreams and were convinced she could never find a stable, well paying career as an entertainer/youtuber/singer etc..
>When she got hired by Cover, it was like a slap in the face for these people. She might even be more successful/richer than these people. So they are still butthurt that she end up becoming a wagie and its the only way for them to cope/release their frustrations now.

>>51767307
>be Kiara
>be loved and successful
I don't see the problem

>>51768145
Kek. Butthurt schizo detected. Does Kiara's success make you seethe? Good.

>>51782462
>Mumei is almost certainly the orcschizo that started every vt rumor about Kiara.
"Mumei is orcschizo" is a rrat that was made up based on absolutely fucking nothing.

>>51775509
Basically this. I understand how hard she works and how exemplary of a weeaboo she is, but I refuse to watch her streams because of her roommate which I won't explain why to not get banned like the last time I did.

What you retarded 12 year old faggots need to undestand is that popularity doesn't mean quality
In fact, lots of popular streamers, for example, are extremely shit and / or shallow and only appeal to the lowest common denominator, see xQC
Kiara has her niche and she's loved by her fanbase. In turn, she loves her fanbase back. There is acceptance and a good feedback cycle since she's consistent on her streams, projects and songs.
Thats literally all she needs, and she found that out years ago. I can easily bet she's in a better place mentally than Gura or other "more successful" streamers.

>Person that's been at the bottom and understands the value of hard work
Vs
>Person that's lived a relatively stable life and just had everything handed to them
Know the difference.
Kiara by her own words performed to a single person in the audience, she understands just how blessed she is for being where she is.

Her voice and personality are annoying, she just don't have charisma.

Is sad, but it is what it is.

>>51783434
Good, don't watch her, we don't want you there

>>51767307
I love her

>>51783466
I don't watch her like most people that like hololive. It is what it is, Kiara lack charisma and gravity.

>>51783581
Good, good. Stay far away

>>51783606
No problem at all!

I hope she get better numbers but I doubt it will ever happen.

>>51767307
>what is she doing wrong?
Nothing, the top is a pretty lonely place and she's cultivating a fanbase that really loves her for what she is and not her character, KFP would probably follow her to the ends of hell, keep up the great work Kiara
t.deadbeat

>>51783434
>she just don't have charisma
Is that why other Holos fawn over her irl, her songs do millions of views, and she has one of the most fanbases in vtubing? Maybe she has charisma for days and you're just a weak filtered bitch.

>>51783743
>one of the most fanbases in vtubing
One of the most dedicated fanbases in vtubing. Unfortunately we aren't the most literate.

>>51783338
You're being way too rational for the catalog
Please leave, this is a shitposting thread

>>51783743
what ever you say dude, I'm still not gonna watch her because she is just no fun to watch.

>>51767616
Is the debuff that she's multilingual? Gura barely speaks English as a first language.

>>51767307
This is an obvious bait thread but I just want to say that it's really sweet that Kiara sand Happy Birthday for Gura in her stream today.

She plays mostly Japanese games, which are boring to watch, or indie slop.

>>51777032
https://youtu.be/iSuTWSJIP1U
This is her hot mic moment which she later deleted from the vod. I don't know why she hates the way she sounds in her not streaming voice

>>51787004
This was before she got her goxlr which is when she completely changed to the way she sounds now

I don't mind the voice. I just don't like her personality and character. Everytime I see her in a collab, she seems to try to interject herself into everything and comes off as selfish and rude.

It is great that she does so much for Hololive, but I just can't stand watching her.

>>51767307
It's OK I'll stick with her till the end

>>51787540
>she seems to try to interject herself into everything and comes off as selfish and rude.
meds

>>51787636
Ye, Kiara sure need them

>>51767307
>dream team collab with Kroni, Ame and Kaela
>playing buff game Diablo 4
>still less than 4k viewers
People really don't like Kiara.

>>51789199
Considering Ame wasn’t there and you can’t get your shitpost right better luck next time.

>>51789199
3 live views on it.

>>51767307
>streams in dead hours
>plays mainly debuff games
>chimkin voice

>>51787004
wow she sounds just like a super cute mennonite girl I dated in highschool, didn't expect that nostalgia blast from a chicken

>>51767307
This isn’t a hard question to answer. You have someone that streams everyday vs someone that streams every once in a blue moon. You like both of them. If you had a limited amount of time who would you watch?

>>51787540
>collab partners barely speak because they're socially retarded introverts
>except for Mori who threatens to monopolize the entire collab with inane non-stop babble
>Kiara has to interject herself to keep things at least somewhat under control
>HOW DARE SHE

She's the kind of streamer everyone who actually gave her multiple chances when she eventually stopped the initial retardation (including me) will tell you they see how much work she's putting (near Coco levels of it, dare i say) and that they see how someone else would enjoy it.

You want to be someone people say "i could enjoy it", not "i could see how others would enjoy it". And unfortunately i think what debuffs her is still that her dislike for men shines through her behavior, besides some levels of menhera that she learned to keep in check.

>>51790016
>i think what debuffs her is still that her dislike for men shines through her behavior
That argument is both false and bizarre. How long were you off your meds before you came up with it?

>>51774368
she's collabed with bae a couple of times but she's pretty shy about branching out since she's done negative eigo reps

>>51790016
>dislike for men
I don't like her and I still think this is bullshit if you don't believe in some extreme schizo rrats.

Her voice.
No matter how hard she works, no matter how great she is of a person, I will never watch a vtuber who has a grating voice.
I've heard people say her normal voice is good, if she'd just fix it she'd be fine. I don't care. I gave her a chance. I'll stick with my oshi

>>51767307
Here's your answer OP, now stop reposting this thread.

>>51790885
Same. I do like and frequently listen to her songs, they're in my holo playlist, but listening to her during stream is annoying.

>>51767307
She shilled NijiEN and Vshojo so all of her effort was leeched

>>51767307
I don't want to destroy my ears, kek.

>>51767307
>doesn't stream during prime time US hours (the biggest market outside of Japan)
>doesn't stream prime time for JP either
>can be grating if you aren't used to her

>>51777650
Some sort of....image anonymous image board picture detective

>>51767307
Your fucking EURO time.... Tenjou....

She doesn't give a shit about her fans. Do you literally not know anything?

>>51801346
>Kiara
>not giving a shit about her fans
Nobody will ever believe a lie that outrageous, schizochama. It needs to have at least one tiny little iota of plausibility.

>>51767307
More wawa for me.

>>51767307
>click on Kiara stream
>voice
>MEMEMEMEME
>nijibegging
>leave
simple as

>>51767307
>has nasty yuro accent
It was over before it began

>>51789957
Cope. I'm assuming you're talking about Gura, Ame, and Ina. Their collab streams are fine without Kiara interjecting and forcing them out more.

>If she drops the voice, Kiara will become the number one HoloEN
Weird logic

>>51804235
Gura Ina Ame and Kiara together is kino. They briefly did an impromptu collab in the myth house when Kiara was playing fire emblem, and the interactions were balanced and the vibes were comfy. Kiara provided the extroverted spark to bring out the best from the quieter girls. It's when Mori is added that Kiara and Mori talk to each other too much and overwhelm the other three.

Kiara just kinda sucks. There's really nothing else to it.

>>51767307
I ask the same regarding Watame being mogged by Suisei and Ayame despite superior in singing and everything else

>>51779771
To be fair, you have to be pretty fucking retardedly deaf to not notice Bae's difference vs debut.
Recent vods
https://youtu.be/yw38XGia78o?t=537
https://youtu.be/QW7nDF8AKyY?t=172

Debut
https://youtu.be/sfxIojed54Q?t=177

ummm, shes better than mori and all the other males i guess.

>>51767307
based and i agree despite her not being my oshi

>>51767307
While i don't think she deserved to be the punching bag of the board for all of 2021, she really isn't a great streamer. Her voice is rough and she comes off as passive aggressive every-time i tune into a stream.

Her collab with nyanners was probably the first time the board as a collective went mental, so ill give her that

>>51789957
Yeah, and to make things better is to have the socially retarded extrovert chicken interject herself into the chaos. Because she thinks she can lead anything and have things under control. U a tensai anon

>>51767307
Footcam stream will make her number one

>>51767307
Mogged by Gura animation kino

>>51767307
Too Orange and annoying, still she is good for my hatefuck fantasies

>>51780700
>so dedicated to kayfabe she became the character
K-Kino

>>51767307
What's with the uptick of these specific Kiara shitpost bait threads? I've been noticing 1-2 nearly every day now. Why give up on every other type of bait? It works better? It's like the equivalent of asking why Gura doesn't stream, people in that instance abandoned pretty much every other Gura bait topic and just post about that one instead.

>>51816356
Kiara got shit number, easy ammo for shitpost

>>51816356
>>>/vt/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=%3EStill+get+mogged+by+the+once+a+month+stream+of+the+lazy+shark
To be fair anon, this specific bait thread this isn't even close to all of the times it has been posted is sort of a schizo's ritual post. I guess there has been an "uptick" in these sort of falseflagging beggar bait threads, but this specific one has been posted word for word dozens of times before.

>>51816356
There were several people that were celebrating Kiara's failed idol dreams and were convinced she could never find a stable, well paying career as an entertainer/youtuber/singer etc..
When she got hired by Cover, it was like a slap in the face for these people. She might even be more successful/richer than these people. So they are still butthurt that she end up becoming a wagie and its the only way for them to cope/release their frustrations now.

>>51816926
To add on, the threads always have these two posts >>51774439 >>51816933 in them for some reason.

>>51769839
Im not saying it, she did
Are you saying she is a liar?!

>>51789199
Actually people really don't like Kronii and Ame.

>>51770307
>Gura is just a mascot that only the ones that never collabed with EN likes
>Kiara is JP's favorite
why are kfp like this?

>>51817590
>Kfp

>>51770522
how can you be GFE and be yuri bait only at the same time

>>51767307
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
Kiara, Fauna, Mumei, Kronii, and IRyS are all amazing streamers that do more than anyone in myth. It's just proof that numbers are nothing but cope that algorithm sheep use to justify their shit taste

>>51817650
>GFE
>Yuribait

>>51817692
>Fauna

>>51771274
I try to avoid Kiara s much as possible, I think the last stream was during the JP off-collab, everyone sounded so low because Kiara (the loudest) sat right infront of the mic and kind of hoarded, so the ones with the lowest voice (Gura, Ame, Ina) were barely audible and you had to raise the volume to hear them but then Kiara would SCREECH! and destroy your ears, so fucking annoying.

>>51817692
>Kronii
>Amazing streamer
Even if you discount the fact that she lied to her fanbase in the worst way, she fucking sucks at streaming.

>>51768524
I agree except for Lui. She seems to genuinely be a fan just not on the same level as Okayuu (or Fauna)

>>51773837
why is that?

>>51817832
BASED. What is the sound file from? Sounds like her EuroTruck stream right?

>>51818294
Yes. Fauna loves Shark

>>51783325
care to elaborate?

>>51767516
She handicapped herself so hard with the high bird voice. If she would have just spoke in a normal voice and gradually worked out her accent...

>>51817692
IRyS and Fauna are good streamers. Kronii is kinda dull outside collabs and Mumei's voice is almost as grating as Kiara's at times.

>>51767307
>>The HoloJP favorite
Since when and in what parallel universe?

>>51809486
>KFP comparing kiara to fucking WATAME!
lol
lmao even

>>51817832
Wow AI voices are becoming so realistic, but still sounds kinda fake chumbud

>>51810762
>Because she thinks she can lead anything
Because she can
>and have things under control
Because she does

>>51816356
Eggs are seething because she's getting a shitload of work done, keeps getting featured in Holo JP programs, is the leader of her own virtual idol group, will do more JP offcollabs soon, is about to be featured in EN's first concert, and has an album coming up. Subhumans who hate Kiara have a lot to be mad about.

>>51767307
She is a humourless person.

There were several people that were celebrating Kiara's failed idol dreams and were convinced she could never find a stable, well paying career as an entertainer/youtuber/singer etc..
When she got hired by Cover, it was like a slap in the face for these people. She might even be more successful/richer than these people. So they are still butthurt that she did not end up becoming a wagie like them and its the only way for them to cope/release their frustrations now.

>>51822130
And other schizophrenic delusions bought to you by Anon

>>51822184
99% of people who don't like her chicken voice or attitude never heard about this bitch before she became Kiara, another schizophrenic delusion bought to you by KFP.

>>51822200
Yes. Someone's subjective opinion I disagree with must be mental illness.

>>51775747
>watches vtubers ironically.
What does this even mean? Fucking nu-hipsters stg

>>51768049
holy cope chumbro

>>51822961
Then why would you constantly spam this same thread every other day retard. It looks like that post was true. You are obsessed with her.

>>51767307
She's an insufferable bitch. Why should I watch a hard working insufferable bitch?

>>51822961
This is the 15th time you created this exact same thread this month and you are calling others schizo

>>51767307
I have a lot of respect for her. She made it shes living the dream, shes that one girl you had in the anime club back in the 00s that said shes going to be an Idol and she actually did.

My respect for her is out of this world, up there with . If I saw her IRL I'd give her 10€ or 1000 yen or whatever and tell her god damn it you made it.

That being said I know her, not her but "her" I spend my youth in the anime club. I was part of one for most of my high school some college. I know her type of girl. She reminds me way way way too much of these girls and one girl in specific I knew.

Shes not the cheater whore or the abuser or the crazy girl or anything.

She is literally "the annoying anime club girl"

>She will talk behind your back (not too much to make drama but just enough to tick you off),
>She will project superiority when she succeeds and won't be humble in an very annoying way
>She will tell her fans "don't send me your shit",
>She will be openly jealous of others and think it's normal to express that
>She will be obsess over her animals and show you catpictures or dogpictures
>She will obsess over a character/show/anime for a time but drop it very quickly and regard it with no love afterwards but obsession for a period
>She will use men that are too stupid to realize they're being used for mundane stuff like bringing her snacks, taking photos of her, helping her out with homework and whatnot.

I know her as they type of person, I've seen such people IRL and the vtuber illusion is broken. I'm the type that watches Vtubers for entertainment value, I have no romantic feelings or fanboy loyalty or worshiping or anything.

I like Ina because shes quiet, she maintains the Vtuber illusion somewhat, she doesn't complain and I have no idea who shes is. Shes this soothingly calm squid girl who draws art. I also like her colors visuals.

TL;DR She reminds me of anime club girls of the 00s and I don't like it.

>>51779355
>Her RM voice is better
>It is the exact same voice
Jesas you are a fucking retard

>>51767307
She Should Work Harder

>>51823679
Holy shit this is a goddamn long piece to say she’s annoying.

>>51823986
There literally a TL;DR so I don't see the issue. He knew what he was writing itself was annoying kek.

>>51767307
Sometimes there are no lessons to be learned, and not every effort is rewarded. It doesn't mean she's doing something wrong, it's just life.
That said though, a diligent approach will make your life easier and better in the long run. She will achieve much and will be remembered fondly.

>>51817464
based catalogretardGOD proving once again that people in these threads never watch streams. ame wasn't part of that collab you stupid fucking moron, lmao.

>She speaks Japanese and can communicate with her Senpais
And yet none of the JP actually like her. Sure Subaru and Nene tolerate her but that is about it. She is an insufferable person who takes a shit on her co-workers all the time.
Also she thinks her fans are a bunch of incels who can't get laid. Which is probably true for KFP but it is still rude.

>>51767307
Shes ugly and extremely insecure about it which bleeds into everything she does. Also yes she can dance and sing but shes not particularly skilled at ether despite having more experience than anyone else in EN. Still though she is not a bad person and I do feel sorry for her but I don't agree with KFP delusions that she deserves better just because she works hard, a lot of people work hard and have much less to show for it than she does.

>>51824235
Cera chan..... you have to let go of your hatred to your own gender

https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1641925347028488193
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1627648409753485312
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1627647452265299968
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1615236839740170241
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1613182227877138433
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1631698911134875663
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1573561894065131521
https://twitter.com/SeraphicCera/status/1563617184168833024

>>51824292
Not sure if trolling or just retarded

>>51824292
Finaly a normal person here

>>51801346
You can say many things about her but one thing that stands true are she really, really loves her fans.

>>51824666
There were several people that were celebrating Kiara's failed idol dreams and were convinced she could never find a stable, well paying career as an entertainer/youtuber/singer etc..
When she got hired by Cover, it was like a slap in the face for these people. She might even be more successful/richer than these people. So they are still butthurt that she did not end up becoming a wagie like them and its the only way for them to cope/release their frustrations now.
Also women and trannies like >>51824385 hate her as well

>>51824768
Yeah seems about right. Always wondered why they keep spamming the catalog with the same Kiara, Bae, Gura, Mori and Ame threads.

>>51824666
Not trolling satan shes a butterface at best. And her insecurity is not speculation on my part, even if you're too socially inept to pick it up from what she says in character, some very minimal digging will show you posts she made in the past where she lays out her insecurities in plain English and even says that any fans that want to take selfies with her have to download a face filter app.

>>51824768
Wow I thought you were joking but it seems to be right. They are obsessed about her past

>>51824385
Man this is just sad. Her entire twitter posts are just miserable.
>>51824768
Yeah seeing these constant threads actually makes me feel satisfied in a weird way. Like she got revenge/ has the last laugh.

>>51824892
>objectively attractive woman
>can’t tell the difference between being insecure and being honest about insecurities
>takes banter too seriously
So it’s retarded, then.

>>51825138
>objectively attractive woman
You're either delusional or have been fooled by her edited photos this is simply not the case. Regardless what really matters is not what you or I think but what she thinks, and she thinks she is ugly.

>shes not insecure because she was honest about being insecure
Do you even read what you type before you hit post?

>>51769181
you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>51825425
I will explain this to you because I think you have some potential to not be entirely retarded… it is possible to possess insecurities without being a perpetually insecure person. Kiara has insecurities. She is not perpetually insecure. If you still do not understand, hopefully you will when your balls drop.

>>51825846
You really think that anon was a man? Sounds like a jealous femanon especially when she is trying so hard to call her 'Ugly' without any poll or proof that 'she is ugly' is the general consensus.

>>51825945
Sounded more like a neckbeard than a fem. Putting off that whole “would not bang” attitude towards someone way out of his league.

>>51825846
>>51825945
If only your oshi was as good streamer as you are with flinging insults at someone who committed the heinous crime of saying Kiara is a good person but does not deserve special treatment.

KFP truly live in their own special realm.

>>51826218
Nice try but you fail to realise that this is the exact same thread that gets spammed here by an obsessed anti. And it is the exact same responses and answers from 'Newfags' apparently. Are you also going to now say that this is the first time I have ever seen such a thread and wanted to give my 'honest' opinion to this obviously frustrated, 100% genuine, totally not falseflagging 'KFP' OP.

>>51767307
>>51767397
Pretty much this. Sorry KFPs, I can't stand her voice.
Also she's very MEMEME.

>>51824385
Nobody hates someone like this unless they have unbelievable real life problems.

>>51824385
Kiara antis make themselves even more pathetic everyday. No wonder people just outright make fun of them every thread

>>51822993
Calling Kiara humorless is an objectively wrong and mentally ill thing to say.

>>51824385
>0 Followers
>Joined June 2022
How the fuck does this happen?

>>51824235
>And yet none of the JP actually like her.
>source: I made it up
Meanwhile in reality, Holo JP favors Kiara more than any other member of Holo EN.

>>51825425
>she thinks she is ugly.
lolno, Kiara regained her self-esteem and realized she's cute and sexy. And it eats you alive. Seethe for eternity.

>>51826375
Damn well you'd think you guys would have better arguments by now. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to prove I'm not the mythical "obsessed anti spammer" believe what you wish. But I will leave you with a parting remark if you ever find yourself thinking "Kiara is so great why is she not more popular?"
Maybe consider actually listening to what other people have to say about her instead of assuming everyone who doesn't love her is just an insane retarded anti falseflagger.

>>51827111
People who don't listen to her fall under one of two categories: people who don't like her voice, and pathetic insane retarded antis. There's no middle ground.

>>51827111
>Muh popularity
Well I don't see you talking shit about Sora, Roboco or Choco so you cannot use that excuse Schizo

>>51824292
>>51824765
This samefagging is too obvious

>>51827111
So tell me, is this the first time you have seen such a Kiara thread and did you actually believe the OP was a Kfp? You can atleast answer that right?

How many goddamn threads are you gonna do this exact same beat-for-beat song and dance of
>"""""real""""" KFP apparently upset about numbers and popularity
>schizos take this as an opportunity to act like Kiara killed their dog or whatever and shit/piss/cum themselves over unreasonable shit
>legit KFP see this and step in to defend their oshi, a practice which seemingly only consists of saying that no criticism is valid, even the less ridiculous ones, and trashing every other EN they have the chance to
>schizos bite back and double down
>everyone eats each other until there's 400 replies and everyone's time is fully wasted
until it gets stale to you people?

>>51827494
Not the first time I've seen such a thread but the first time I decided to respond. And yes I assume the OP is an honest KFP specifically because I often hear KFP whining about this exact topic all over /vt/

>>51822130
You can just say you don't like cause she's German.

>>51827589
Antis never stop seething at Kiara's success. And laughing at them never gets old. Thus these threads will continue forever.

>>51827649
Ah so you are a gullible newfag. Next time remember not to bite such obvious bait threads especially ones with images like OP. That image alone should tell you it is bait thread. Also how do you get your info about her 'Roommate activities and twitter posts'? Where you an ex-member/patreon supporter of DN if you are this much of a newfag?

>>51827804
Lmao. Riddle me this, if this is just an obvious bait thread with no substance and everyone here who doesn't think Kiara is a perfect being is an anti or a gulible newfag then what are you doing here? Why not just hide the thread or better yet set a filter so you don't even have to see it pop up? And why do I see KFP complain about this topic in global and even other threads that have nothing to do with Kiara?

And I never claimed to be a newfag I've been in /vt/ since day one and Kiara dox gets spammed constantly both here and elsewhere you really don't have to out of your way to see it. Anyways this is a fruitless discourse goodnight KFP enjoy your self inflicted suffering.

>>51828302
So you are saying that you have been here since day one and even hang out in global (where this OP image has been used as one of the standard Kiara bait images) but yet you could not realize this was a bait thread.
You have been here from day one and cannot distinguish what is a 'falseflag' and what isn't after all this time?
Seriously? You hang out in global of all places and cannot recognize this as a bait thread? Good night to you as well. I hope you are not so gullible in real life atleast. There are a lot of people that can take advantage of your stupidity.

>>51826925
Why don't they collab and hang out together if they are friends?

>>51767307
I don't watch dykes. That includes the indo ojosama too

I like Kiara but I prefer her real voice and I don't like nijisanji
She definitely deserves her success
Oh and I also want to have sex with her. Like a lot of sex. I'd take responsibility if I knocked her up too

>>51827739
Isn't she Austrian? Hmm sounds like the All-father to me.

Kiara cute. Gura cute. Schizos should hang.

>>51767307
She produces mid results
get gud

>>51767307
She's fucking austrian and I hate the people from my country, especially women.

>>51829405
based

>>51767307
help her

sex with woman (who is orange)

>>51827266
>Comparing Kiara witth Sora Roboco or Choco
why are kfp like this

Kiara's voice and accent are annoying to a lot of people. I love her, I like her accent and mispronunciations, but I know that not everyone is like me. On top of that, her voice/charater voice has gone through 3 major and 1 minor change. Debut -> New mic in Japan -> Move to Austria -> Tone down somwtime early last year. Just listen to the FREE BREAD clip, the Mario64 clips, the getting over it clips, and anything currently and you'll hear the drastic changes in quality/volume/pitch her voice has gone through.

bump.

>>51840516
>Missing the point
Kys Egguardo

>>51767307
People will remember years later passive agressive behavior

>>51767307
esl debuff

Her voice, insecurities and passive aggressive stacey energy is going to be a permanent debuff.
No amount of "why is she ignored?" threads is going to change that fact.
That said, I'll still pick her over most in HoloEN. That's how dire it is at the moment.

Just drop chicken voice for 1 week

She's very annoying

you guys know she reads these threads right?

>>51767781
>>51768036
I mass reply because I post on boards dot 4channel dot org slash vt slash
sneed

>>51818448
Typical "women are whores" and other rrats, take anything said about her roommate with a gallon of salt.

>>51783325
Ah so you are a schizo, thanks for letting us all know anon

>>51767397
This, fpbp

test

>>51858061
>Check filename in archives
>Three full pages of posts
>Every single post is a shitpost
Damn, surprised to see the schizo from global is here. Not sure how somebody reaches this point though.

>>51767307
She lost the character gacha. They gave her a fast food chicken girl instead of a cunny shark girl. Honestly, everyone else lost the moment they weren't given that design.