/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

nothing

$103.50

Nothing they're still doing great streams together and they have an NKODICE collab this week

you don't watch them

I think they're pretty neat

They didn't have an already 1M subscriber massive memequeen loli voice that left her mark on internet culture, and a established professional musician that could hit a homerun of a introduction and pump out multiple songs immediately

Your parents didn't get the abortion

nothing. they're doing fine. just because chuubas don't achieve hololive numbers doesn't make them failures.

Nothing, all three are great and have much better synergy than HoloEN, but even vshoujo achieves that

>>5093933
Nothing. Stop making pointless threads.

>>5093933
they targeted the wrong audiences: saviorfags, lgbt and meme addicts.

>>5093933
>NASTY FART TRIO
I sniff

>>5093933
became Vshoujo clone

>>5093978
i don't get this meme

>>5094953
Once Nijisanji left donations on for a big stream they weren't supposed to have donations for, so they shut donations off quickly only gaining $103.50, and Holofags being EOPs just saw the number and took it as a failure

>>5095015
wow that's fucking stupid
aren't the top 3 highest superchatted streams of all time niji male 3d debuts?

>>5093933
I can't think of anything, they're perfect

Pomu is cute

>>5093933
Hololive rejects? Hololive rejects

>>5096038
Bullet dodgers? Bullet dodgers

Only glaring problem is that they apparently spent the GDP of half a hemisphere advertising them. Other than that, the girls are clearly having fun and making a decent income.

I hate the middle one's design so much. It's godawful. And the pet dragon thing is just creepy. I can't stand to watch her. The other two are just boring.

>>5093933
Aside from you being born?
You lived long enough to make this thread.

>>5096124
According to /hlgg/ professors in rratology I assume? I've seen an ad for a literally who JP indie with 3k subs the day before yesterday. It's not some unthinkable investment. Sub to her by the way. I feel bad. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_ZM1Eg4o1NMJZ9vJ1JtIoQ

For some reason I have not watched them yet, but I want to. I only reacted to a clip of their debut, I actually liked Elira, Pomu seemed to not be my thing, and you know what happened with Finana. The zoomer humor isn’t something I find quite appealing, but it was so minor it could be brushed off. Planning to take my time to watch them properly

Lgbt dragon

I dont like Finana, but i love Pomu and Elira

>>5095015
Aw the nijicuck is trying to rewrite history

>>5093933
I don't get the appeal of the dragon.
The fish is funny if you turn off your brain.
Pomu is amazing, she makes me lose interest in any other chuuba

>>5096124
>>5096237
I don't get where the idea it must be some ridiculous amount comes from either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QszYxjf12d0
This girl bought ads for tons of her videos and got 4-5 videos over 1 million views with it and spent around $55k. Her top 2 most spent videos she paid $9k for one that 1.1 million views from it and $17k for a video that got nearly 2 million views from it. So they might have spent as little as $15-20k on advertisements across 2 videos? There are probably a fair amount of organic views on the Nijisanji videos too so who knows. But its not some bank breaking huge amount by the looks of it.

>>5093933
Never watched Finana, I don't like her.
Dragon is just fluff, no content. She just talks about nothing and says sheesh.
Pomu has great taste and is pretty cute, but I don't have time for another vtuber.

>>5093933
No cunny

Instantly doomed to fail

>>5096540
Nice try

>>5093933
One of those drags the other two down

>>5093933
>Niji's supposedly HoloEN-Killer
>Struggling to reach 100k subs after a month and barely getting 2k live viewers.
Nijifaggots will never not be pathetic subhumans.

pomu is amazing
elira is good in small doses
can't stand finana

Copium - The Thread

>>5097009
Why do Chumbuds continue to insist they aren't numberfags while anyone with eyes can see posts like this plaguing the board?

>>5097654
Bandwagons.

Finana liked my tweet so now I have to watch her to pay it back.

>>5097654
Still waiting to see how this group is supposed to "kill" HololiveEN like you faggots and Niji claimed though

>>5093933
Nothing, Pomu is cute. No idea who the other two girls are.

>>5093933
Nothing went wrong. Elira and Pomu are great.

Is elira really a dyke?

literally nothing, theyre all cute and deserve more numbers

>>5098074
Hololive seems to be doing a good enough job of killing themselves.

>>5093933
they were like a year too late to take advantage of lockdown and also debuted when the vtuber trend is starting to decline in the west

also no males

however they are all very cute and I will keep watching them

They're good Chuubas, and that's unironically the best and worst thing about them. If Nijisanji was looking to open a succesful branch then they did just that. If they were dumb enough to think that just hiring a bunch above average chuubas was going to have the western market open their legs for them, then no wonder an incompetent company like cover can run circles around them just by relying on sheer meme luck.

>>5096038
I'm Pomu? I'm Pomu

Nothing

>>5096038
Not the best time to be a Cover shill to be honest.

>>5098235
>Saying while one their nijiwhores is graduating at this very moment
kek

>>5098342
That's not even remotely a fair comparison and you know it.

>>5098342
>Graduating for health reasons vs graduating because Cover is a black company
Sad that you have to cope this hard

>>5098381
Maybe stop tempting fate

>>5098235
I used to think that one of the big guns graduating would be enough to derail cover's momentum. But after 1 week and seeing the narrative completely shift outside, I honestly think that Hololive has reached console-levels of brand loyalty. Like how Sonyggers and Xbots stuck around despite the PS3 and Xbone launches. At this point, the only graduation that maybe damages them would be friend graduating since the fanbase has officially dubbed her as the canary and maybe Gura and Peko just because of the sheer size of their fanbase.

>>5098456
>Gets called out
>c-c-cope

>>5098456
Excluding the chink rrats I'd say maybe Sasaki's temp graduation is somewhat similar (since Coco is supposedly rage quitting because of management) but even that is flimsy as best.

>>5098174
I heard she had a gf

>>5098611
>this is all you can reply with

>>5098688
This is all you deserve

>>5096552
As someone who considers Elira the best EN vtuber on the market right now I can tell you her charm is not being autistic/pretending to be autistic. It's the "normie charm" where she has good comedic timing, can bant with chat, and has a decent amount of stories to tell. It's a breath of fresh air from every other ENtuber either openly hating their fans or going out of their way to desperately pretend they don't hate their fans. She also likes thick thighs.

>>5098174
>>5098684
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped. Later faggots.

>>5098776
I can tell that you don't watch other EN chubas, anon

>>5098918
Yeah, go run along back to Hololive where yuribaiting is not only encouraged, at times it's corporate mandated lol.

>>5099001
At least they don't peddle books about reach arounds.

>>5098930
You're absolutely right, I don't. They're mostly terrible. The only ones I tolerate right now are Elira, Pomu, Ina, and Amelia. I don't even like Amelia she's just such a trainwreck to watch it accidentally becomes funny.

>>5098174
Kind of the opposite. She isn't one of the many female vtubers that pretends to only like cute anime girls and ignores guys. She posts her cute anime boy gacha rolls on twitter like Suisei and Inui.

>>5099033
Marine talks about BL books every other stream.

>>5093933
>What went wrong?
You're not watching them, that's what.

>>5095111
Yes.

>>5097009
Nobody with half a brain thought they would be actual HoloEN killers. Not claiming no one thought that, just that anyone who did is retarded just like (You) and OP.

They play too much minecraft and genshin impact. The only good thing is they haven't played too much Apex, at least, for now. For having better permissions, they certainly aren't using it to the fullest.

>>5098174
She has openly expressed attraction to men, and in her past life openly liked shotas.

>>5099469
>The way she gushed over Ares and Thanatos while playing Hades
Watching a girl who is open about being straight is actually a weird feeling as a Holobrony.

>>5099517
It's refreshing, but I'm also a literal faggot (diet faggot, at least) who gets tired of people only gushing over women so that helps for me.

>>5093933
Too late, and no Coco or Chammers to build hype. They made good hires and did a good job promoting the debut, its just happened at a point when HoloEN already had cemented itself in the market. If Nijisanji wanted the EN market they should have made a serious effort at an EN branch at the same time as, if not before, Hololive did.

>>5099447
They are using those better permissions. They're playing Genshin, Muse Dash, and NKODICE in their first month. That's three games right there that Holos can't play.

>>5093933
Nothing. Nothing at all.

>>5099848
Okay, I honestly don't get how fucking gacha games (or at least the rollan part of it) is seemingly a huge buff. Like, why?

>>5100574
Gambling addicts get a vicarious high from it.

>>5100574
society

>>5093933
Nothing, they're perfect.
This sweaty Dragon is a sweetheart and I could listen to her for hours on end

>>5096165
>Pomu
>boring
I will find where you fucking live and skin you alive. BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT POMU.

>>5104196
cringe, just like your oshi

>>5100574
Genchink makes for pretty OK streaming content, at least when doing the story missions and not the soulless bug grind at higher levels. Great graphics, cute girls, fast-paced enough to be entertaining but not so fast the streamer can't talk over it. Then there's also the gambling effect >>5100748 describes.

>I'm not good with balls
What did she mean by this?

>>5100574
Go to the stream and count how many SCs with the legend "gacha funds" you see

>>5104375
Not too strong on her fellatio game.

>>5095111
I kneel to fujoshi powah!

Taka in chat

>>5093933
I know you are just mocking them.
But no matter how low their numbers get by EN standards Nijiniggers will never accept failure.

>>5093933
Your conception faggot.

>>5093933
>Their entry wasn't the Mushroom Cloud explosion HoloEN was (not on them)
>Whatever the higher ups were doing with IN before they thought to have proper EN auditions (also not on them)
>Fiana's complications with her debut

That being said, I'm pretty sure they're doing well for themselves now.

>>5098918
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, retard. Or do, actually.

>>5093933
they hired failures that was their mistake

NijiEN swung for singles and got singles. They should have hit for the fences.

>>5115693
>fastest sub growth in Niji history
>failures
ogey

>>5093933
sadly they didnt want to take a risk so they got some cheap chuubas and now you can see the results

>>5093933
Nothing. Their rate of popularity growth is about right. HoloEN's rapid growth was as much a blessing as a massive curse. There are alot of types of potential fans I hope NijiEN would filter away instead of grabbing them for NUMBERS NUMBERS.

>>5093933
2 whores and a future corpse

cant do much if they got boring chuubas

>>5094884
totally this

>>5115782
EN subs mean nothing. Live viewers 1st and VOD views second. If subs were the only thing that mattered why would numbers threads ignore them?

>>5098342
holy shit who?

>>5093933
Safe and boring, like the lower tiers of nijisanji jp. Not bad per se but they don't stand out at all.

>>5093933
>Debuts overlap with big HoloEN streams
>First week streams overlap with big HoloEN streams
>Vtuber-brand vtubers with very little unique going for them.
>Boring game choice.
They're nice girls but I don't feel compelled to choose them over a holo except maybe Pomu Karaoke.

>>5116086
Elira and Pomu were the top earning girls for superchat in the company after Chihiro last week and in the top 40 for all vtubers worldwide without counting the money the get through streamlabs too.

>>5117001
SCs are meaningless in the nijisanji side of the world holobrony.

>>5116447
How does Nijisanji shake the "off-brand" feel they give outside of Japan?

>>5117117
They get better views than around half of nijisanji, are getting subs an a record breaking pace for the company and are making more money than much bigger vtubers than themselves. I don't really think that can be classified as a failure however you look at it.

>>5117185
Eyeball traffic. At least be on par with chicken or something.

>>5117228
Chicken's been around for 9 months. NijiEN isn't even a month old yet. Takes time to build up numbers.

>>5117327
Numbers aren't built, they decay.

>>5117349
Are you retarded? How do you think Hololive went from struggling to break 1k viewers during 1st gen to where they are today? They won an audience and grew it with years of work.

Obviously by picking YT which is too holobiased, should mainly stream at twitch imo

I'm Holofag and I prefer NijiEN over HoloEN1 for sure. Don't know why, they just feel more natural and fun to watch. Though the fact they stream mostly at Freedom Hours means I won't watch much of them anyways.

>>5117446
I prefer NijiEN and I am a holofag too. I hate HoloEN and will never not hate HoloEN, I want all of them to graduate in shame and for the company to leave the western market. I don't hate the west or western vtubers at all. I wish NijiEN played games I was interested in watching besides Pomu but that won't always happen.

>>5117493
I thought Pomu had the least interesting game choices of all of them so far myself. You've had tetris and links awakening from Pomu outside of the games they all play. Then Elira has played superliminal, hades, cooking simulator and there is no game. Finana played re village, muse dash, undertale, miitopia.

>>5117493
Everyone is waiting for Pomu to play Touhou. It’s the only game that she’s allegedly not terrible at

>>5117570
One of them should play a cult classic like STALKER.

>>5117618
inb4 the pressure gets to her and she'll die to random attack stage 1

>>5117618
>>5117493
I also forgot to mention she’s playing classic Doom this weekend

>>5117761
Actually a game that sounds interesting. I wasn't particularly excited for either of the japanese streambait kusoge she picked this week but they're both collabs so probably fine. And all of it is better than more damn links awakening and tetris.

>>5116138
shin yuya graduated due to being a lawyer. she's taking her lisence exam soon.

>>5097654
Chumbuds am I right? It couldn't possibly be shitposters looking for easy (you)'s in a bait thread

>>5117383
All hail the algorithm eh?

>>5096038
Friendly reminder that Niji reject FUCKING PEKORA of all people

>>5121248
/vyt/ thought that Pekora would be a failure after her debut too.

>>5121210
It's not it, but the lack of spark and viral stuff and also the clipping scene are like holo or bust rn, there's no room forward in a market so dominated by holo

Feels like we have this thread daily

>>5121701
Weekly, but time does travel quickly in the rabbit hole.

>>5096111
i love this pic

>>5121581
On youtube they at least get the few EOP nijifags and holofags who aren't into any of the HoloEN girls or are just looking for something new. Pikafags also seem to like them. Being the default second choice is a good thing when you are starting out. They have to overcome Hololive's gravity if they want exposure but it can be done with some luck, and financially they are doing fine as is so they can play the long game. Who would even watch NijiEN on twitch, Koopa raiders?

>>5121294
I still don’t get why she’s popular at all, must be the clips or whatever memes for teens she’s known for.
>le peko peko im so cringe teehee xDD

>>5122328
VShojo raiders

>>5117383
Have you seen how NijiEN has been trying to play youtube algorithm slots as of late? They do community posts and polls all the time.

>>5122501
Vshojo already has orbiters. NijiEN wouldn't have any advantage over established indies on twitch.

>>5098510
Why would Coco fucking off kill Hololive? She's reddit famous sure but reddit also has no loyalty whatsoever and quickly moves on to somebody new after a week and she'll get memory-holed.

>>5122575
Doesn't seem like it does much considering the most popular one doesn't do that shit.

>>5122328
Koopa raiders > holofags
Nuff said

>>5122840
Exactly 20% of Koopa's viewers aren't on global. This is science.

>>5122717
It isn't about winning the nijisanji game, it is about playing with it enough for Hololive to lose the west. Dragon is fine and all but she needs to make hololive to kneel before she can be considered a success by management.

>>5122575
Surely it won't be enough bcuz they've been trying to alter it since the creation of EN channel and nijinyanji. It needs other channels to boost them to the AI but no, holo brings in the views for them

>>5122895
>playing with it enough for Hololive to lose the west.
Tbh, it's impossible
>>5098510
Also algorithm always favor Hololive.

>>5122895
It seems like some of their stuff is making it to people's recommendations. I see clip channels with subscribers in the 1000s or 100s getting views of 50k+ on some of their videos.

>>5122328
NijiEN much closer to twitch vtubers tho than Youtube since Finana rather collabs with them. Unless we'll see NijiEN X tsunderia/prism one day

>>5123006
Hololive's ship is creaking. If HoloEN2 is a disaster the is a crack.

>>5096165
Go back

>>5099033
I can tell you haven’t watched your own tribe Anon

>>5098174
She’s not, she’s literally been open about her attraction to men

>>5098174
She like Ensemble Star. What do you think?

>>5122432
it's 100% the clips. Her actual streams are boring with one or two golden moments, clippers get those golden moments and that's all people watch.

>>5122895
Elira should do more of those singing meme shorts. I've seen people in the comments of that video saying they had no idea nijisanji had en branch, it came up in their recommended, insta subscribed etc.

>>5094116
I didn't know nyanners was a professional musician I thought her singing itself was meme.

>>5093933
they are doom to graduate this year for sure, specially the one who´s dying

Anyone else hoping that NijiEN wave 2 to completely mog LazuLight?

>>5123541
How would they ever recover from getting popular kouhai they paved the road for

>>5123502
NijiIN 2.0 autograduations lezgooo

>>5119133
t. chumbud

>>5099082
How is Ame a train wreck?

>>5123274
>Her actual streams are boring with one or two golden moments, clippers get those golden moments and that's all people watch.
>one of the highest average stream viewers among chuubas
ogey

>>5093933
I honestly only care that Pomu gets enough akasupas to get her procedure done and quit her job

>>5093933
Nothing is wrong with them, it's just they look like failures when the comparison target is Hololive.

>>5098510
It's too early to tell because she isn't completely gone yet and is putting on a great farewell tour now that cover doesn't need to pressure her into quitting by not letting her do anything fun anymore. The community in general is also not buying or at least very skeptical of the "creative differences" excuse, so another big yab or any confirmation that they're working with chinese owned and operated companies and it's ogre.

>>5137033
>The community in general is also not buying or at least very skeptical of the "creative differences" excuse,
Then the community is fucking retarded. Coco has been a bad fit for Hololive since Day 1. She spent the vast majority of her time pre-yab shitting on Hololive for being an antiquated, artificially sanitized project headed by a 40-something loser whose dream was to make the world’s first open source anime harem. She repeatedly ignored requests from management to play down her “adult” tendencies, and openly mocked Cover for being a company run by prudes.
Despite all that, the company fired 6 other streamers and tanked its own international revenue just to keep her employed. And has now been dubbed a “black company” for its trouble.
Reddit dragon was a gold mine of superchat revenue and production quality. She also had painfully different business values than the company she worked for. If it weren’t obvious by the fact that Kanata and Fubuki aren’t quitting, Coco’s only reason for leaving is that she made her millions off Cover’s brand and can comfortably become her own boss.
And Taiwan is a country.

>>5093933
they hired persons with similar personalities and range of voices.It is fine but they are bound to get stagnant if they dont do someting to satnd out. Nijien viewers are rpetty much holo viewers if holoEN2 cames i thin it will take away from them unless they get a good sizeable market elira might pull it off but the other 2 are on a ticking bombm of bleeding views.
>>5098510
i think that it will slow down the eop-jop relationship. Meme reviews were alwasy a nice way for clippers to spread other holos. They wont prevent them from keeping growing specially with how jp-en collabs are getting so common. Community has accepted pretty much cocos messages. UNless it is a graduation out of huge drama it might hurts their momentum like how sio did but cover has dodged bullet after bullet somehow.