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/#/ is declining

>/hlgg/ is complaining about perm guy
Huh? I thought the perm situation improved for EN?

Nousanji status?

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

Range ban the Philippines
Hardware ban all phoneposters

What is the point of this general? And don't tell me containment because it's not containing shit.

>>50763699
I've no idea what they're on about but I do know that plenty of people (so like, 10) aren't into the kusoges.

>>50763678
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*YESTERDAY’S EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY (06/03)*
>15,029: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
>7,628: Filian (Mythic)
>7,304: Shylily (Mythic)
>7,290: Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna (Hololive)
>5,926: Neuro (Indie)
>5,229: Reimu (Nijisanji)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>3x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

*EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (06/03)*
>11,035: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
>7,290: Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,367: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,834: Shylily (Mythic)
>5,229: Reimu (Nijisanji)
>5,223: Neuro (Indie)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>3x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

Notes:
>Cut-off time for final tally is midnight PST

150 minutes, im ngmi

>here's your EN3 bro

So what did >we learnt from the last few threads, anons?

>>50763699
He was just stealthily shilling other companies

>>50763865
If you're not a holochad, you are in perpetual seethe mode

>>50763791
People like to discuss things regarding the industry, and like the /vyt/ feeling it has. The general doesn't belong to any company despite being the majority hololive fans. Also, numbers.

How was the Fauna hologram episode

>>50763885
That's literally me. I'm in this image.

>>50763885
I just realized
Pekora seem to be at least as tall as this dude seeing the position of his hand

>Pekora with 4 sub 30k streams in a row
How do we save her?

>>50763699
How about you don't make vague post? This is on the same level of "ayeeeeeee anons, /ggg/ is melting tasuketeee"

Give details.

>>50763865
I guess Lap's dead

>>50763989
Fine, i will bite.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>36,348: Marine (Hololive)
>31,217: Aqua (Hololive)
>31,001: Miko (Hololive)
>29,754: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,301: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,055: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,443: Koyori (Hololive)
>21,641: GatchmanV (Indie)
>21,264: Miko (Hololive)
>20,880: Chiroru (Indie)
>18,563: Lui (Hololive)
>18,127: Met (VSPO)
>17,587: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,614: Rena (Nijisanji)
>16,317: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>15,178: Watame (Hololive)
>14,704: Korone (Hololive)
>13,692: Lui (Hololive)
>13,592: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,795: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,669: Noel (Hololive)
>12,220: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,149: Luna (Hololive)
>11,069: Botan (Hololive)
>10,991: Choco (Hololive)
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,945: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,441: Nene (Hololive)
>10,310: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,210: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10,185: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,032: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,020: Reid (Neo-Porte)

>>50763979
you realise that the fat hypnotist guy is sitting down leaning against a wall, not actually moving around?
That figure could be anybody

>>50763963
I find it funny that Fauna has done more voice acting and better voice acting on a daily basis than Kronii ever will, despite Kronii supposedly being the VA Holo. Hell her little Dark Fauna bit on the CouncilRyS RPG stream was more effort than Kronii has put in her entire career. Hologra was no exception although the Japanese sped up all her voice lines for some reason.

Leaked image of EN3

>>50763989
Every time

Uuuu Fauna frame up

>>50763963
it's on par with Yukkuri Fubuki and Animal Kingdom episode. Yeah it's that great.

>>50763944
Doesn't matter when you're casually mogged by the best lol kwab

>>50763865
Based atahuta

I was wondering why Reimu wasn't 3view

>>50763944
>>50764044
One more stream below 30k in a row and Pekora gets removed from the first army.

>>50764044
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong
4) Marine (Hololive) - 36,348 - Pyschological Drawing Test

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive
1x: Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Beni, Chiroru, Marine

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
118x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
3x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
42x: Pekora
15x: Miko
14x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Watame, Yashiro

>>50763963
>How was the Fauna hologram episode
Magnificent!

numberChads is it true that kronii lost a big number of viewers after collabing with men? i never watched her so i don't know

>>50763963
Obrigatory Holox shilling and some fauna I guess

>>50763963
Cute

>>50764044
>36,348: Marine (Hololive)
>31,217: Aqua (Hololive)
>31,001: Miko (Hololive)
>29,754: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,301: Pekora (Hololive)
GET MOGGED DESU~~~

>>50764178
Why do you care tourist. Go through the archives or kys

On a scale of 1 to 10, how GRIM is it looking, right now?

>>50764156
Where's the Global YouTube + Twitch Tally?

>>50763865
Tell me where can I read this for free.

>>50764067
Fauna puts in a lot of effort everyday, and it seems that behind the scenes shes no different. /#/ couldn't have picked a better oshi

>>50764158
She already got three strikes, so Pekora is no longer a first army

>>50763963
Too much HoloX shilling as per usual

>>50763832
>Mythic
But they are not the same as Vshojo or Hololive

>>50764222
Now show me their Twitch numbers

>>50764236
I need the info to counter unicorns

>>50764158
>>50764268
nah

>>50764263
I mean I still don't like how she dropped the mask with "I cannot be your friend and I should not be your friend." That was a bit jarring. But compared to the rest of EN, she is a standout, although sadly that bar is low as fuck.

>>50764297
Go back

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>6/4 DAILY TALLY
10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
6,900: Ina (Hololive)
6,525: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
6,465: Fauna (Hololive)
6,023: Mori (Hololive)
5,229: Reimu (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer
4) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,955 - 3D Switch Sports (w/ Amelia)

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Baelz, Fauna, Kiara, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
7p: Ina
6p: Fauna
5p: Baelz, Kiara, Shu
3p: Enna, Kronii
1p: Fulgur

>>50763963
pretty decent ngl, i came in with low expectations since i'm pretty neutral on fauna and hologra in general

>>50764067
Yeah, I hope they either get some English speaking scriptwriters or have someone who knows English supervising while they make any episode with an EN member so they don't do the speed up thing anymore.

>>50764297
Just bring up the fact that all Holos collabed with males at least once. Works every time lol kwab

>>50764184
>>50764284
rent free, holoxschizo

>>50764178
She's still able to bring tourists, but her floor dropped by like 1-2k

>>50764330
>6,900: Ina

>>50763963
I really loved it, Fauna did a great job with the voice acting and the script was pretty good.

>>50764330
Doesn't count
See>>50763832

>>50764298
Three strikes and you're out

>>50764297
> please spoonfeed me to shit up the catalogue more
Sure. As soon as im done with your mother

>>50764347
gura has never collabed with males

>>50764158
Ok but you must abide by the rule if she get good number again

>>50764330
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
114x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: Fauna, IRyS
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Mumei
10x: Ina, Kronii
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
7x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Finana, Luca
1x: Alban, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Ike, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Ren, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
148p: Fauna
123p: Ina
117p: IRyS
114p: Mori
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
74p: Vox
68p: Kronii
65p: Kiara
61p: Amelia
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Sonny, Uki
10p: Elira, Fulgur
9p: Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Ren, Rosemi
5p: Alban, Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem
4p: Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Magni
1p: Maria, Meloco, Nina, Shinri, Pippa

>FlopX

>>50764411
Matpat?

>>50764407
>>50764325
>>50764236
wtf is the point of this general if you people don't even store your data in an excel?

>>50764178
I’m pretty sure it was a gradual recline. There will be schizos that’ll say it was the male collabs alone, but that’s not strictly true. Yeah, that’s what started it, but it’s more complicated than that.
The truth is, Kronii’s content quickly became boring as shit and filtered most people. She basically only appealed to gachis and goslings because all she’d do was either be a doomer and trauma dump or play shitty debuff games and mostly stay silent.
After the shitshow surrounding Tempus collabs, all her remaining appeal was gone, and that’s why the kronies who are left tend to be laughingstocks on this board.

>>50763963
they showed her feet twice

>>50764411
What's this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCC0taKfwhY
Face it Chumpedo, it's been over for a half a year now.

>>50764380
_____________sus____________________

>>50764086
except this time it's not due to some long ass RPG
she already avoided re4 and totk

>>50764463
>store your data in an excel
wtf, kys

>>50764162
>That look in her eyes
I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH A VTUBER

>>50764463
There's one or two guys who handle the raw data processing, charts get posted frequently enough that anyone who lurks in this general long enough have seen then

>>50763963
Sadly it's doing worse than IRyS'

>>50764429
Doesn't count
See>>50763832

Oh wow bringing back ancient bait no one cared about even when it was relevant. Our shitposters really fell off.

>>50763865
Marine...

>>50764487
__________________ඞ________________

>>50764162
We're allowed to love Fauna here right?

>>50764405
Nope
If that was the case other first army holos wouldn't be first army anymore

>>50764330
>Fauna didn't even make the podium

>>50764436

>>50764521
Check the VOD views, Shitrystojeet. Already mogged and not even 1 day.

>>50764178
It wasn't after collabing with men, it was after her unarchived member stream and her actions immediately after that. Go check the archives of that thread and after. Kronies felt closer to her than ever before. Then she came back, did an about face, spit on her fans, and hid behind Cover. Plus she is just naturally boring and lazy.
I recommend watching the whole unarchived member stream, it's pretty intimate and nice, and explains why so many Kronies felt so betrayed immediately after. But to say it was just male collabs is pretty disingenuous, pic related.
https://gofile.io/d/mwV447

>>50764463
Get out.

>>50763865
ARE THOSE?

>>50764580
Keep coping

>>50764584
Whores stick around whores. No wonder Shitrys has been corrupted too kek

>>50764521
Did IRyS just get a surge and then people stopped watching it kinda like her subs?

>>50764543
It's the new rules, valid from June 2023

The guy who asked to be banned for posting Marine lewds in the previous thread didn't even get a vacation. Dare I say based?

How is 5ch reacting to Pekora underperformance tho? The same as us?

>Selenfag comes back crawling after the real schizos went to sleep
Actual skill issue

>>50763865
>big tiddies in bikinis
>flat chests without
Is this supposed to be a joke on how they have male chests?

Name a bigger flop than ShilloX or Shitrys
Hard Mode: Nothing EN-related

>>50764330
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
Kiara, This is Astonishingly Based As Fuck, you know?

>>50764661
uhhh you do realize Fauna is about to become the least subscribed CouncilIRyS member right?

>>50764710
How?

She's so happy bros

>>50764693
kek, I was wondering if those guys were Selenfag larping but I think they're different, those guys sounded like the usual /hlg/ schizos.
Pathetic that he has to avatarfag in an empty slot to get any attention

>>50764700
Uproar

>>50764645
Kronii was a western Asian woman so this was always going to happen. You get dick thrown at you your entire life and get everything for free so of course you don't value other people. The remaining yesman Kronies try to cope and say the visit from Mori ruined her and is what caused her change of heart but that would require her to have a heart in the first place. She's so uncaring she couldn't even keep a kitten alive for longer than 2 weeks. Heard she just got a new one, poor thing.

>>50764584
I am amazed that both the image there and you right now are saying "it wasn't collabing with men"

... but, it was literally collabing with men that kicked all of that off.

>>50764701
>gets casually mogged again
Heh, nothing personnel, brony.

>>50764687
Im more curious to know about their Fauna Hologra reaction.

>>50764735
Bae has been catching up to her and will pass her soon

IRyS had a little less than 550k by the 24 hour mark, for reference.

>>50764700
Gen 3 concert.

>nijinigger raids /hlgg/
>get told to fuck off
>now back here falseflagging as Mumei
don't act surprised that your dogshit third rate company is universally despised by every single Vtuber community and every week another talent gets the rope.

>>50764761
Tell that to the Shitrystojeets. They're heading down the same path.

list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Miria https://twitter.com/Miria_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Virgil https://twitter.com/Virgil_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

>>50764700
HolostarsJP

>>50764794
No I mean how can Fauna sub be so slow?

>>50764794
Bae has been "catching" Fauna for months now...

>>50764760
You should watch the unarchived member stream. Kronii actually smoothed things over in that stream to the point where Infinity was beside themselves with joy over how close they felt to their oshi. It was what she did immediately after that soured everything.

>>50764829
because she's not popular?

Updated first army holos (June 2023)
>Marine
>Miko
>Suisei
>Aqua

>>50764700
The entire Holostars brand

>>50764829
She had an 8k lead but between her vacation and Bae playing the penis game she's been catching up. Unless Bae can pull another penis game out that will get her subs chances are she won't catch up, especially with her being ona sporadic schedule next week since she's traveling again

>>50764849
She can’t be that unpopular can she?

Speaking of ticking, both Pekora and Marine ticket today.
For Pekora, that marks a second tick before Mori, completing the "overtake" maneuver

>>50764816
Phasecuck you forgot your Mumei image

The vshill today be like

>>50764858
>Marine
>Aqua
lmao

>>50764877
I'm sorry anon but that's just reality
I blame her non-existent JP mindshare

>>50764880
Yeah I saw nousagi celebrating it on Twitter yesterday. They are always quick when it come to numbers

>>50764880

>>50764739
If she's happy then I'm happy too. I love my wife so much bros.

>>50764882
Don't bully my Panko Manko

>>50764848
All I know is, I was a kronie when council first debuted. But, yeah, in my case it was the combination of collabing with males and "unfortunately, idol culture is a thing" that made me drop her.

This thread is being monitored

>>50764794
I just checked and Fauna actually pulled away again, looks like Bae just got a PP stream buff
>>50764829
>>50764849
>>50764877
>how can Fauna sub growth be slow
Fauna is near the top for EN sub growth. You guys haven't looked at the EN big corpo sub scene if you think this is slow.
I found this in the archives

NijiEN sub growth May 2023

20k - Kotoka
14k - Meloco
12k - Shu, Ike
10k - Vox, Mysta, Enna, Hex
8k - Uki
7k - Alban, Doppio
6k - Elira, Petra, Kyo, Ren
5k - Pomu, Luca, Selen, Maria, Scarle
4k - Sonny, Millie, Ver,
3k - Nina, Finana, Reimu, Aia, Fulgur
2k - Rosemi, Aster

>>50764700
>P-please don't shit on nijiEN
lmao what happened to our shitposters?

>>50764937
I want to bully your manko, specially your wombo

Speaking of subs, Mumei is only 15k away from Kronii.

Love holoJP
Love holoEN
Love Kaela
Hate nijiniggers
Hate phasekeks
Hate homobeggars

>>50764987
NijiEN has been collecting less yabs than all of Holo has the past month

>>50764985
Why do you assume I care about vtubers outside hololive?

>>50765019
There are about to be a shift in power order soon in Council

>>50765048
nigger response

>>50765019
>Mumei on break for 2 weeks
yeah she's gonna overtake her very soon, when mooms don't stream the sub growth soar

>>50764932
She's not even your friend, how can she be your wife?

>>50764676
Nah. Miko isn't first army either anymore. Valid from May 2023. May 3rd, May 4th and May 5th. Three consecutive sub 30k streams.

>>50764812
Sisters are upset only vox's gf reimu is streaming

>>50765049
Mumei has been the ace for a long time actually.

>>50765048

>>50765048
You can look at the image I posted which only has HoloENs then.
Gura had been on 0 0 0 for a while before her tick a few days ago or yesterday

>>50765073
>Dumb retarded anon lacks the necessary information
Anonchama...

kek, a shondofag made a thread on catalog

>>50764985
One of the biggest jokes Myth gave us is Amelia having more subs than Ina.

* 30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS, GLOBAL, MAY 2023 *

>>50628665 :: Kaigai only (plus true average)
>>50628665 :: Top 50
>>50761774 :: 1k plus
>>50762211 :: Full table
>>50762782 :: Boys Only

Pic related, the 1k plus

>>50765045
Because nobody is there to care anymore

>>50764980
In the end, the root cause of all this is Kronii being completely ignoring of vtubing culture and having no idea what makes Hololive popular. If she did understand this, she would have been able to balance male collabs with her viewers’ wants. There probably would have been a modest recline, but not nearly as bad as it was now.
She would have either been able to understand that not everyone who doesn’t like male collabs is some schizo who wants to burn male collabers at the stake, or she could have tailored her content to appeal to more than just goslings. Her behavior throughout that whole shitshow looked exactly like a menhera doomer who has no idea what even she wants, who shot her own channel in the foot as a result.

>>50765073
pft you think you need to be friends in order for her to be your wife? what are you? a faggot?

>>50765097
Why do you assume anyone cares about Myth's subs? Whether Kiara or Ame get 100k more subs or not is irrelevant at this point

>>50765144
I'm in this image.

Where did this "three strikes rule" even came from?

>>50765213
you have a really long face

>>50765196
Clearly you've never been to a wedding. Literally every single one, the groom says something like "She's my best friend, my friend for life, etc."

>>50765173
>Kannagi Tenri: 1014
She made it, even if only by singing Holo songs.

A Kronii timeloop? is this how desperate they have become?

People are worried about the EN branch but not ID.. After ID4 their a good chance that ID stars would be next since they switch to open auditions. Plus unlike EN or JP the ID branch in generally does not have unicorns and their top talents are pro homo. I won't be surprise if their the first branch to do a off collab with the stars since they all live close together.

>>50765221
Schizos. It's not an actual thing or none of the ones who are first army currently would still be first army.

>>50764687
not so much on other kuso games
but she really fucked up on SC6 generated lots of shitposts

>>50765221
Made up by schizo.

New Phase almost reaches 1k after two raids about 40 minutes apart.

>>50764822
Miori WILL be in EN3 and have wild sex with Bae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziqfHoROZA
So will Kaela made a lot of characters for each collab?

>>50765266
A kronie hiding behind a Luna image? Is this how desperate they have become?

>>50765308
And she WILL collab with Tempus and you WILL be happy

>>50765019
>none of them have reached 1 million subs yet
FAILURE

>>50765303
eh what was she before the raids? 900+ if she can hold it is easily top 3 for their corpo at this point.

>>50765333
>become
Infinity has been desperate since Day 1, and after all the ones closest to sanity left, they've actually gotten worse. They don't even talk about Kronii anymore, just trying to groom the one girl in the thread they call Name.

>>50765188
>the root cause of all this is Kronii being completely ignoring of vtubing culture and having no idea what makes Hololive popular
It's safe to say this is probably the most important thing here. I have no doubt that Kronii only knew about Hololive on sort of a cursory level before joining. Even she said, and I remember this from when I watched her streams, she auditioned for Holo on a whim, without having any expectation of actually getting in.

>>50765199
Why does anyone care about anyone's subs at all then?

>>50765405
Started stream at 500, has been inclining.
The raids were from her genmate and low3view from vreverie. She'll probably retain enough to stay over 700.

>>50764284
The hologra team uses whoever is available and willing to record. Not their fault if a lot of holos aren't interested.

>>50765330
>never finished their D2 collab
I'm not even going to bother watching this. I hate when I start watching a playthrough and the girl never finishes nor explains why she dropped it.
I remember they saying that they would continue it after Holo ID's sports festival but it has been a LOOOOOONG time since it happened and no word but the collab ever again

>>50765428
She thought Ahoy was a one piece song.

>>50765464
>genmate
I meant companymate.

>>50765464
not bad, maybe still a debut buff if that exists for small corpo hires. See where she ends up in a month

>>50765082
Miko is not a first army because she's already the ambassador of hololive, she outranks all holos.

>>50765428
>she auditioned for Holo on a whim, without having any expectation of actually getting in
She has so much in common with Mori it's scary.

>>50765170
Ame's sub count is a poor joke in general. It stands as a monument to how subscribers are a completely useless metric.

>>50765528
Miko is the protagonist of hololive.

>>50765411
>trying to groom the one girl in the thread they call Name.
Wtf israel

>>50765589
This.

>>50765563
>>50765428
has laplus ever talked as well about her audition like this?

hellooooo

>>50765633
kissing suisei on the lips

>>50765247
Clearly, you've lived a sheltered life if you think they meant what they said

>>50765082
The new rule is effective from June 2023.

>>50765476
Do you really believe that?

>>50765624
I'm not sure, but at least Lap had an oshi (Towa). So, even if she didn't know much about Hololive as a whole, she was *generally* aware of what Holo was about. Kronii can't even say that much.

>*cough* Idol Showdown and Holocure streams *cough*

>>50765019
If these trends continued Fauna would pass Kronii two years from now, both hitting 1 million around the same time.

>>50765670
No it's effective from May.

>>50765659
me

>>50765680
They should just move in together, they clearly get along. There's zero reason not to.

>>50765624
>https://youtu.be/09BTlPXh2Vw?t=40
She has talked about it and she said the complete opposite.

>>50765659

>>50765705
It's effective from June. I don't make the rules.

>>50765684
>Idol Showdown and Holocure streams
Should I.... Should I check the VODs? Will I be alrigh?

>50765333
By all means keep shitting on a long fallen chuuba, but just remember it won't save your
organ failures sinking deeper and deeper into irrelevancy

>>50765749
It's effective from May. You're right, you don't. I do.

>>50763753
>tfw both
OH NYO

>>50765781
If you watched those vods not knowing who Kronii is, you'd swear she was some random VShojo or Mythic chuuba who was, for whatever reason, forced to play Hololive games. It was that bad.

Why schizos ‘argue’ like 5th graders?

I dont know much about the company I work for, I like it but as long as I am getting paid to do my job, I dont care about the history of every single collegue and what they did before I joined..
Why do you want Hologirls to know ins and outs of everything Hololive? Its like a job for them which pays more than they deserve

>>50765790
You also don't make the rules. It's from June 2023, it's a known fact.

>>50765845
god i hate this whore so so so much
so much

Speaking of HoloEN and subs, here is a table with
* HoloEN current subs plus their gainz in six months plus their gainz in twelve months *
>pic related

Here are some amusing facts
1) In the past year, Gura is still the HoloEN with the most gain, with Mumei in second
2) In the past six months tho, Mumei takes the lead, 92k subs gained vs. 80k for Gura
3) Fauna is the third fastest in subs growth in both the six months and the twelve months table, with Bae coming really close to catch up with her for the six months table
4) Mori completes the top five on both sides, followed by Kronii

now, for some depressing punchline
5) In the past year, Ame only 2k more subs than Sana.

Yes, I had to double check to make sure, Ame added 80k subs since June 3 2022, Sana added 78k.

https://youtu.be/ZKnd_JvHqrc
Man this shit is fucking hilarious but how do you even translate this...

>>50765902
Because part of your job this time is to interact and ideally bond with your colleagues you fucking idiot. It's not an office job.

>>50765673
Yeah? It's the same logic as in the variety quiz shows where Mel and Roboco are in at least 50% of the episodes because they're always available.

>>50765659
yeah, me

>>50765781
Kronii doesn't acknowledge any of the references for her Idol showdown playthrough in terms of going "oh that's blah blah blah from so-and-so" save for maybe Fauna's Golden Apple and Mumei's shop so that's what he's shitposting about on that front. But she did manage to get to the final boss of the story mode on her first attempt before the game decided to bug out, then she ended up using her "time powers" when she was able to fight the boss properly next time before just straight up losing the 3rd time in.

For Holocure, the only thing of note from that stream was that she wasn't able to roll herself through the gacha which is decently humorous on its own.

>>50765910
Link the post where the rule was first implemented then and everyone agreed to it. Surely you can do that since it's a known fact right? Especially if it's so recent. Go on.

>>50765902
Because being a vtuber is different from working an ordinary job. It’s like being an actor who doesn’t give a shit about the TV show they’re in. Except it’s not a TV show, it’s a streaming company that’s popular precisely because its members all like the corpo’s content.
There’s plenty of girls who actually like Hololive, so anyone who isn’t enthusiastic about Hololive doesn’t belong and shouldn’t be there, end of story.

>>50765931
only good poster in the thread

>>50765902
Are you ignoring the fact that there's a huge distance separating "knowing everything" from "not knowing anything"? Are you doing that thing where you deliberately misrepresent the point other people are making?
Also are you as bad at your job as Kronii is at hers?

Hololive hierarchy:
>The ambassador of hololive Miko
>First army holo (Marine, Aqua, Suisei)
>Second army holos (Pekora, Subaru, Korone)

>>50765902
They're just trolls anon, ignore them.

>>50765902
>I dont care about the history of every single collegue and what they did before I joined..
Why do you want Hologirls to know ins and outs of everything Hololive?
First of all, no one's saying she needs to be a Hololive stan. That said, it would absolutely help. However, you should, AT THE VERY LEAST, be somewhat interested in the hobby you are attempting to join.

Case in point, Subaru. Subaru had no fucking idea about anything Holo. She was very much in the same situation as Kronii. But, and here's the important thing, she. wanted. to. learn.

>>50766007
artist or full image?

>>50766041
Here >>50764676, like I said I don't make the rules, but it is what it is.

>>50765931
God I hate gura so much

>>50765931
Ame really fell off huh

>>50764928
Damn, Pekora will never be the top JP again, the gap just keeps getting wider.

>>50765943
>part of your job this time is to interact and ideally bond with your colleagues
who told you that?? your mom, you retard?
are you a lonely schizo who doesnt know how to make friends?? everything is through memes to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHDgIFZEerk
inercraft

>>50765931
SNO at the top once again

>>50766144
GOLD GOLD GOLD

>>50765931
>Fauna is strongest coun-

>>50766144
Fauna time to play MC after your member stream

>>50766121
she subsists off her long standing core at this point, most of her members from what i remember including myself until a couple months ago were 1+ to 2+ years very few under 1 year members in her posts etc that werent 1 monthers likely gifted.

>>50766144
That's not BotW. Is Ina ogey?

>>50766210
nice joke

>Hello numberbros, JWU is true Mori doesn't care for hololive? or that brotubers perhaps don't exist?totally new to this by the way
Why do you fags keep falling for this?

>>50765931
>Bae
It's not all bad I guess since she's at least ahead of Kronii who is actively trying to not have a career.
>IRyS
Aaaieeee it's over she's not getting shit even with the large backlog of music to circulate in the algo.
>Ame
lol

>>50766104
That's not everyone agreeing to it. Only one person replied to it other than yourself. And you said you don't make the rules, which makes it invalid.

>>50766092
Even Mori’s gotten better compared to when she first joined. Kronii does not give a single flying fuck. I mean, jfc, her entire Hololive career has basically been “I have no idea why these people like me. Whatever, I guess I’ll just roll with it.” And like everyone who gets lucky and finds success without having any idea why, she fucks up with stupid yabs because she doesn’t even understand why her viewers don’t like that shit.

Can you guys stop posting EN in the numbers thread? We only talk about good numbers here and no EN chuuba gets good numbers.

>>50766102
houk1se1
this is the closest sfw version of this image

>>50766125
What the literal shit are you talking about you fucking mouthbreathing retard? They literally have rules for newly debuted gens not to collab with anyone outside their gens first to create some degree of bonding, the very first stream after debut is a full-gen collab one, and one of the biggest draws of hololive since the conception of "generations" has been the interactions between their members. Are you seriously gonna fucking suggest things like early PekoMiko, NoeFure or OkaKoro had NOTHING to do with how hololive operates? What about things like the MC summer sport festival or the Mario Kart tourneys?

>>50765411
Ah... so that's what they were doing the other day. Is that "Name" even cute? If so i'm joining them in dead hours.

Any Kroniie alive who can confirm if i'll test positive for crippling depression by browsing infinity? I've got a lesser one touristing the NotFandead general.

>CAN LITERALLY BEAT THE FUCKING GAME AND GET IT OVER WITH AND MAYBE PLAY MINECRAFT AT THE SAME TIME AS FAUNA TOMORROW
>OPTS IN FOR MINECRAFT TODAY
I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS I HATE THESE GIRLS

>>50765902
>I dont care about the history of every single collegue and what they did before I joined..
Not a good fit for the vtuber world then. Fucking NIJIS got in a world of trouble for not knowing who Gamma was
>FUCKING GAMMA, a literally who at the bottom of the branch at the bottom of the company
Imagine being a Holo girl, in a company that grew through box pushing, and having to google Roboco because you didn't really know there was such a person in the company

>>50766209
I might have been one of those people if I hadn't found Moom and Fauna

>>50765749
You do actually

>>50766233
I'm sorry anon, but it is what it is, three strikes and you're out (effective from June 2023). You can't just change the rules.

>>50766110
You have to let her go anon
>>50766121
She feels somehow distant, even more so than the rest of Myth. If you are new to Hololive I can't see why would you get interested in her

>>50765931
>In the past year, Ame only 2k more subs than Sana.
FUUUUUUCKKKKK

What went wrong with Ame to jjustify trailing even a perpetually absent Ina? Too much AmeWay?

>>50766309
You said you don't make the rules so it's invalid. I do. It's effective from May 2023.

>>50766288
>NIJIS got in a world of trouble for not knowing who Gamma was
What

>>50766125
Are you seriously retarded enough to think that Hololive members are popularity purely because of their own talent? Any holomember who thinks they earned their viewers all by themselves is a deluded fool who doesn’t belong. And any viewer who thinks that doesn’t belong either.

>>50766357
aiiiieeeee newfags in my /#/ thread

>>50766352
It's a figure of speech, we all know it's effective from June 2023.

>>50766351
>AmeWay
Probably? It's just what she gets, if she wants AmeWay, then I guess it's the FanWay to decide if they want to keep watching her.

>>50766351
>>50766121
What did Ame do in the first place to amass 1,7 million subscribers? What's her legacy? Why do people, knowing her current (for the past two years) state, expect her to perform better?

>>50766357
Here is the shortest summary: Gamma was in a VSaikyou scrim, one of the Niji FPS girls (Chihiro, I think. Or was it Ars?) went
>who the fuck is this and how he got access to the private lobby?
>listener san, please GTFO
She got some flak for that, proportional to the importance of Gamma
>meaning almost none at all
But Gamma got some pity points and it helped him incline and be invited to VCR Rust, which inclined him even more

>>50766411
Nope. You already said you don't make the rules. I said I do. Therefore your rule is invalid and mine is valid. It's effective from May 2023.

Pekora is reclining and that's a fact.

>>50766396
In fairness, this year's Vsaikyou probably wasn't interesting to most people /here/ unless you wanted to listen to Selen getting spitroasted.

>>50764067
Don't forget her VO work as Bae in the April fool's stream

>>50766280
>believing anything you see about Kronii in particular at face-value in /#/ of all places when they can't even be consistent with whatever the reason to be mad about her is that day

>>50766295
i tried but im unfortunately a genwunner at heart nothing in EN gripped me quite like year 1 myth did so i just dropped hololive after 4thfes and i got to see idol outfits and council, was fun

>>50766124
Marine is the face of Hololive for a reason.

We need to talk more about organs.>>50766274
wants us to

>>50765188
Yea people were praising Bae or even fucking Mori out of all people for how they handled male invasion, with Kronii it feels like she jumped on the male train pretty much on a whim. One day she was with Bae in Vesper's chat and next thing we see her in a full group Tempiss collab laughing her ass off from blue homo simply existing and man oh man do boys make that clock pussy moist, she actually behaves differently around them which makes her the worst type of homocollaber almost on par with niji EN if she was only more sexual rather than a prude that hates her own titty model. Doesn't feel like she was actually against getting shipped with those fags though, seems like management actually warned them about going too far with it and hetshipps because pretty much all of them gave talks about it.

>>50766453
>What did Ame do in the first place to amass 1,7 million subscribers?
Have a ship with Gura.

>>50766277
shut up dude, dont cry
your idea of "bonding" is only through knowing what the other member is known for in Hololive or what memes made them famous
As I said, you have never made any friends

>>50766453
>What's her legacy
Nah, I'll have to interject here, Ame hillbilly 3D studio alone would be enough to leave her mark in the branch, let alone her first there months when she was a star as shiny as Gura.

If you are asking that about Ame you likely boarded the hobby after March 2021, likely after the Council debuts

>>50766124
The only way is music, yeah she's fucked

>>50766486
No you also don't make the rules. You heard it first today this month, therefore it's valid from this month, not last month.

>>50766519
that's fair, it's really hard to replicate that initial feeling

>>50765902
Hololive is not some kind of average office job. It is a "social" type of company, it was build based on "culture", the Hollive Culture. Working as one of the talents of that same culture and not know the culture is just like entering a church while wearing only underwear while blasting some loud music through your cellphone, you'll be obviously out of place and not be welcomed by the people who frequents the place.

I just got shown real botted Twitter numbers
Just for reference, Elon tweet with 19.7 million view can barely scrape 10k retweet and 100k likes

>>50766275
Oh god bless you, I didn't know he made a r18 version of that image with the sex eyes, gonna dig it up now

>>50766536
There's so much blatantly wrong information packed into this statement this isn't even at the threadreader level.

>>50766615
It's not hard to prove that, take a sample of the accounts retweeting it, for a big enough sample you'll hit enough bots to make your case stronger

>>50766571
At the end of the day having a talents would still carry you further than anything. Pekora really should have spent more times learning a skill or something

>>50766649
81 minutes

>>50766579
Yes I do. I said I make the rules and you said you don't. Therefore my rule is valid and yours isn't. Sorry, that's the way it is. You shouldn't have conceded to not making the rules. It's effective from May 2023.

>>50766615
Not everyone wants to retweet or like Elon's tweet

>>50766596
what has she not known that made you seethe this hard??
Was it the "ahoy" meme??

>>50766687
Make me wonder if there’s any Niji tweet with sus numbers. We always accuse them of hitting/cheating Twitter numbers and all

>>50766562
>let alone her first there months when she was a star as shiny as Gura
So you're saying she had comparable algo luck and as much raw appeal as debut Gura?

>>50766559
>your idea of "bonding" is only through knowing what the other member is known for in Hololive or what memes made them famous
Nta but you’re retarded. Nobody thinks that’s good enough. But if you don’t even have some familiarity with that basic level of knowledge, of course you don’t have the much deeper bond with Hololive necessary to actually create the holobox.
Fucking hell, nobody’s expecting Kronii to bump muff with all of JP. But if you’ve never even heard of Roboco, why the fuck are you in the company?

>>50765902
Anon there no point reasoning with this thread. They don't even understand market difference and want en to be a carbon copy of Jp.

>>50766562
So, you're telling me Ame did good things until Council debuted, and then decided to become a slob?

https://youtu.be/uqdIFway7ug
we need more holostars, 6% female viewers is really high thats what i call popular demand

>>50766759
>Anon has yet to actually prove Kronii said anything in the vein of "who is Roboco"

>>50766729
It's first mentioned today this month so the rule is effective from June 2023. Again, it is what it is. Pekora is no longer a first army.

>nuh uh my rules are valid!
>nuh uuuuh mine are!
go get a room already you faggots

>>50766759
>>50766753

>>50766699
explain Miko than

>>50766559
Do you know what the word "ideally" means you fucking retarded ESL? That's why the first thing I put forth was "interact with", not "bond", and the reason I brought it up is because historically the most popular units in hololive are the ones where people can clearly tell the girls are friends with each other. And context retard, this was about Kronii knowing practically nothing of the environment she joined, where the audience likes seeing AND would normally expect holos to like each other, especially newly debuted ones being at least fans of the fucking thing. Nobody is saying Kronii should know the surname of every single holo or something.

>>50766785
Also most of those female viewers are there for the girls, which is funnier.

>>50766753
>"ahoy" meme
Jesus Christ, they don't send their brightest huh

>>50766729
>>50766831
You both was arguing like 2 middle schoolers now you argue like 2 4th graders

Found this little gem looking through Ame's twitter

>>50766845
She's talented at situational comedy and being entertaining.

>>50766845

>>50766831
Nope. You conceded to not making the rules whereas I said I do therefore it's effective from May 2023. The sooner you accept this the easier it will be.

>>50766785
die scum

>>50766281
EN are confirmed retarded at this point, especially when it comes to minecraft

>>50766905
Pfttt to the catalogue

>>50766845
She is good at catching trend, more than anyone else in the company
The moment that meme song got popular she make a cover of it immediately in record time and rake in views. Meanwhile Pekora is going to waste money and effort on 5 fucking flop songs for some reasons

>>50766753
She doesn’t know any of the memes, barely knows about any of JP’s songs, didn’t know who Roboco was…so, Kronii doesn’t watch streams, doesn’t listen to Hololive’s musics, and barely even watches clips.
If you give even a tiny shit about Hololive, doing any of that should be easy. You should be doing it effortlessly because YouTube recommends that shit to you after you start watching a few.
I’m suffering from depression and find watching streams as difficult and draining as actually doing chores, and even I’m far more versed in what Hololive members are up to lately than Kronii, an actual talent in the company. That shouldn’t be happening at all.

>>50766900
so nothing
why you act like sisters then??

>>50766785
>6% female viewers
>median is about 16.9k
>1000 women~ or so at that ratio

>>50766905
Top kek. And yet she's playing it again. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

It just occurred to me that Kronii has not retweeted ANY of the Hologra tweets. Like, at all. What's her malfunction?

>>50766920
I didn't concede to anything. It's just the way it is. Pekora is no longer a first army because she got 3 consecutive streams with less than 30k viewers this month. 3 strikes and you're out (effective from June 2023)

>>50767020
Korone female viewership median is higher of both stars branch

>>50766986
Just give up, there's no point in arguing with the remaining Kronies. They are so fucking brainwashed at this point, the only thing that would get through their thick skulls is a bullet. Soon enough they'll go back to their namefag thread and seethe about gifted memberships or something. The remaining Kronies make Gabe look sane.

>>50766907
???
That's just Pekora.

>>50766910
Is this supposed to be impressive? Pekora has 20m cover.

>>50766974
>she's headcanon headcanon headcanon
Ok lil bro.

>>50767047
since when is first army 30k+ instead of 20k+?

>>50767059
blindchama read the release date

>>50767071
Since he said so
Just let him talk to the wall

>>50766986
> didn’t know who Roboco was
cmon anon, dont cook headcanons
also you need to grow up, a thumb rule is that a fan of any group/band knows more than the members themselves... its not only Hololive but its a universal fact

>>50767002
Shit bait, too obvious with the ESL

>>50767071
New rule effective from June 2023

>>50765902
How is Vtubing a normal job?

>>50766753
You won't convince retards, just give up.

>>50767047
Yes you did. You said you don't make the rules. That is conceding. I then said I make the rules, therefore my rule is the valid one whereas yours is invalid. That's just reality. It's effective from May 2023.
Miko is no longer a first army because she had 3 consecutive sub 30k streams in May.

>>50766841

>>50767113
Approved by?

>>50767108
NTA but pretty sure most band members know the names of the other band members. Or their famous songs.

>>50767096
>it's going to grow infinitly until 100m views
What an idiot. Also FBK got 1m very fast on the same song and people here were saying it's shit. So basically nobody knows what they're talking about.

You two are gays or something

>>50767112
>still hasnt given a single example

>>50767113
says who?

Hello numberbros, JWU is true Mori doesn't care for hololive? or that brotubers perhaps don't exist?totally new to this by the way

>>50765563
The difference is that Mori has changed for the better. The girl's knowledge of hololive these days shows a vast improvement.

>>50767141
It was a figure of speech and you just made up some bullshit rule and it's not official. The real rule is officially effective from June 2023.

>>50767201
The voices in his head.

>>50767113
>New rule effective from June 2023

Will you 'new rule' first army retards stfu and stop shitting up the thread ffs

>>50766986
Anon I bet 90% of the hololive girls do not keep up to date with each of the girls are doing. Your a hardcore fan you probably know more about hololive than 98% of talents. For example I bet if we ask any jp talent what has en streamed in the last two months they would fail

>>50767020
>>50767051
That 6% is for the for the channel, not just live watchers. Almost all of her VOD have 100k views so that would be about 6k girls watching her

>>50767071
Only the Japs get to decide who is First Army. They're the ones who came up with that term in the first place.

>>50767201
>>50767157
It is what it is, I don't make the rules

>>50767058
>the guy who sold family land to go to a con and wrote guro/ryona fanfiction on the regular was a "sane" one
Anon you're obsessing over a fanbase you hate when you could be obsessing over your own oshi, oh wait.
>/#/ watching stream content that isn't just looking at the CCV number
My mistake.

I've started to drink, I blame (You)

>>50767197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CShnBoulwV8

>>50767296
that wasn't my question.

>>50767163
again, do you have proof that she didnt know the name of a holomember??

>Mori did two ASMR streams in the last two days
What's going on?

>>50767297
No he wasn't, I'm just saying that the remaining Kronies are just as bad if not worse.

>>50767237
>changed for the better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKxyLmbOc0Q
>150M GET!
Enna in shambles.

>>50767245
It's not a figure of speech because you linked your own post in this very thread as proof for when the rule was implemented. Therefore you conceded that you don't make the rules. I do. it's effective from May 2023.

one imminent today at some point
other imminent in the next... idk shit grows so fucking slow

>>50767296
>”This this, and that is that” (Roland - Library of Ruina)

>>50767277
Watch kronii play holocure
Watch any other holo play it
You fucking retard watch an actual stream threadreading cunt

>>50767350
I didn't concede to anything, it is what it is. You can't just change the rules. It's effective from June 2023

>>50766615
Elon loves attention, he probably boosts his tweets to everyone's "for you" page

>>50767305
you retarded schizos, all it shows is that she didnt recognize the song from the tune.... even Mumei doubted for a sec
get better baits

>>50767348
Muh doxx tasukuteeeee

>>50766757
>you're saying she had comparable algo luck
Yes
>and as much raw appeal as debut Gura
Not as much and Gura came with a "baked in" appeal from her previous self, plus "anime loli" buff (even stronger in 2020 than right now).

But Ame had one tiny corner of the market for herself
>Toxic FPS gamer
Here is one quintessential clip in her early history
>Amelia is TOXIC in Apex Legends!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSOzkoE37Yo

Back then she was doing something very similar to the other gaming content creators: being rude, loud and toxic for shits and giggles, the exact recipe that inclined a hundred other bros and bras in that field.
>but....
But with that role you end up attracting the WORST type of audience, the type that will pop up in the other girls chat and figuratively "teabag" them, because the audience ends up emulating the style of the content creator.

Ame first "purge" of her audience, if I am not misremembering, was trying to throw out the ones expecting her to be nothing but "toxic gamer, but anime girl"
>similarly to Kiara trying to put an end to the "bottom left" meme regarding her lack intelligence and promiscuity
but I think she never found another niche.

In short: she hit the algo as hard as the rest of Myth, and she even expanded on an audience that was not necessarily watching Holo.

>>50766781
>So, you're telling me Ame did good things until Council debuted, and then decided to become a slob?
She burned out around March 2021 (also, IIRC, I remember that from personal experience). From that point on she's the Ame people know and love (or not) today.

>>50767182
don't get sidetracked retard we are talking about songs helping subgrowth

>>50767405
anon, its time for your meds

>>50767405
He's not wrong though.

It really isn't possible for every Holo to be up-to-date on every little happening of what's going on. The Kronii "Ahoy" shit happened over a year and a half ago at this point, and for someone who supposedly still doesn't know anything about Hololive, she was aware that Polka had an original song come out around the same time she did her Mafia cover.

Fun fact of the day: Pekora is no longer a first army holo.

>>50766785
>>50765180
Nijisis...

>>50765902
If the person isn't passionate about being a Hololive Member or isn't passionate about the brand and its history then why are they there to begin with??? THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE IN HOLOLIVE. In my very humble opinion.

>>50767446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1VBjfH-7YU
AHOY SCHIZOS DON'T LOOK

>>50767305
kronii is clearly seething though
she knows ahoy she aint stupid
it;s just that she's jealous and can't admit it

>>50767237
Does Mori care about Hololive more than she did when she first began? Absolutely. Shes initiated collabs and promotes them way more than any other EN. But her personality and everything else still sucks. Credit where credit is due even if shes not for me

>>50767423
You conceded to it by linking your own past and then saying you don't make the rules. It's not a figure of speech; it is what it is because you said you don't make the rules. That's reality. I said I do therefore my rule is valid and yours isn't. It's effective from May 2023.

>50767484
Even more hilarious fact: you're still seething about her every day