/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>50580971
Just because Ina never does member streams doesn't mean the other girls don't.

>>50581050
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>50581050
this one.

this one

Aki thread

>>50581050
props to op for using aki pic

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

Clearly this one

This one

I was enjoying cunny but time for Aki

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

>AKI SEGS
/#/ is inclining

*YESTERDAY’S EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY (5/31)*
>11,284: Vei (Indie)
>10,681: Nyanners (Indie)
>9,041: Filian (Indie)
>8,691: Vedal987 (Indie)
>6,118: Kronii (Hololive)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>0x Vshojo
>2x Indie

EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (5/31)*
>7,622: Nyanners (Indie)
>7,601: Vei (Indie)
>7,466: Vedal987 (Indie)
>6,118: Kronii (Hololive)
>5,175: Filian (Indie)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>0x Vshojo
>2x Indie

Notes:
>Cut-off time for final tally is midnight PST
>Company counter resets in next tally

>>50581155
Kys

UNICORN BROS?!?!
>YOUR RESPONSE!?

>>50581116
Remember to shoot on sight anyone who uses "liver" and "wave".

>>50579907
Thread will naturally talk about whatever hot topic is happening.
ESPECIALLY if there isn't any other important thing taking up the airwaves.
Homo twitter thing is the hottest topic rn, Twitch indies can suck themselves off all they want, but they have limited discussion potential.
All the seethe from boths sides of this twitter thing though?
That can sustain the thread for HOURS.

sorry, my new oshi

imagine complaining that someone did "only" 18 streams

>>50580680
Wait, what, why is Mumei so much shorter here.

>>50581155
kys

>>50581189
isn't she?

>>50581155
kys

>>50581155
Well done, good luck doing it for the next 500 days straight

>>50581174
She's smart and doesn't want to scare them.

>>50581155
>Dumb anon is still posting his irrelevant tally
Absolute Retard

>>50581174
The girls should take care of themselves when it comes to safety etc

>>50581189
Moom
156 cm (5'1")

Fauna
164 cm (5'5")

>>50581155
>comparing twitch and youtube numbers
how come you dont include fb live numbers? maybe because most thai and indo vtubers there get minimum 20k viewers?

>>50581183
WATAME ONLY DID 19 STREAMS. IT'S OVER

We should have horse races to 2 views.

>>50581155
At least some actual effort is being put into this shitpost for once.

t chan is removing shit now

>>50581155
holobronies? our response?

>>50581174
It's okay Chocotentei, I'll invite Choco mama as well when she inadvertently barges in while we're having sticky steamy sex

>>50581246
Anon they were shitposting in the thread all day yesterday.

>>50581155
Should have Nyanners, Vei, and Filian tagged as Mythic, not indies.

>>50581155

>>50581255
I unironically think Yagoo was right in introducing Tempus. Look how hard they mog their /jp/ counterparts.

>>50581280
>not having sex with Choco mama instead
WHY ARE YOU GAY?

>>50580778
You don't need kanji to watch streams anon.
My listening reps are amazing, I can even understand some weird-ass slang terms from listening to Marine streams once in a while.
But God save me if you asked me to write down any of that shit or read long-ass JP comments without a translator.

>>50580844
he's a flip btw

GRIM

>>50581268
>Reddit again
You should go back and also kys.

>>50581268
Why is that Helmite faggot licking t-chans asshole

Patiently waiting for tally anon to post his tally so I may begin my daily hololive wanking and jerk off sessions.

So why is Cover so adamant to burning HoloEN, their most successful sidebranch, just for the Stars? The recline over the past year from Ina or Gura taking a break should've hurt them a lot but they still think Tempus is doing good.

>>50581268
>it's not too much of an Obama thanks meme
I just can't fathom that there are actually people who communicate in this manner.

>>50581291
>Look how hard they mog their /jp/ counterp-
JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!

>imagine getting mogged by FUCKING ARURAN!

>>50581305
>flip
worse actually if you opsec the email he used for the account and link it to other social media sites
a malysianfag hapa

Why's Luna getting decent numbers with absolute shit games.

>>50581305
Wonder if that's one of depressed (sadly not suicidal) nousagi sockpuppets. Would fit with the corpo bootlicking.

So what did we learnt from the last thread anons?

>>50581155
kys
keep yourself save

>>50581155
You're gonna get told to kys for at least the first 30 days if you decide to keep this up, so good luck.
Also hope you don't miss any streams... that would be bad...

WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING KOONE?! THIS IS PEAK ALPHA

this Aki stage is pretty similar to the one Okayu used from a 3rd party studio, but the assets and recording were rendered in hololive studio

>>50581386
>malysianfag
Can't never hear about malays and not remember that the guy who originally drew Christ-chan was a malay autist too.

>>50581373
At least try to post accurate numbers.

>>50581373

>>50581373
Usually I prefer homos go entirely unmentioned, but losing to fuckboy Aruran is embarrassing.

>>50581183
I’ll never not be impressed by Gura’s watch hours. 2 streams about 8 hours but 114k watch hours

>>50581155
>>50581434
> EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY
never fucking mind, I thought it was just the twitch tally
kys

Honestly at this point, I should just post daily vrabi StarsEN - HoloEN tallies to a single HololiveEN twitter post or retweet of that day just to send a message

>Sitting with TV on nearby
>Hear the talking box mention Steve Rosenthal
Man, Aki is getting popular!

>>50581358
They somehow see more potential in ID then EN. ID is about to get their 4th gen, while EN3 is in limbo.

>>50581434
already missed a couple includding sodapoppin cutekittykitty and girlisaacs streams

>>50581473
AIEE what is this

Tchan is removing commnents on reddit calling xer out again

>>50581268
I wonder what rule this broke

>>50581268
that removed comment had over a hundred upvotes calling her out for posting info on discord only

>>50581520
>>50581321

>>50581434
best believe I'm gonna keep at it for more than that since this is one of the most retarded tallies

>>50581483
That tally is already on /lig/. This guy is just one of the more subtle raidfags.

>>50581155
You should thx me and my 10 browser tabs for those indies ccv.

>>50581155
Really should kys especially for calling these girls indies. If they’re indie then everyone else is an indie as well

>>50581155
kys

>>50581389
Anon you missed the point where Luna Unironically moggs all of HoloEn in average ccv besides Gura???>>50581183

All she needed to do was shed the baby meme shit and lean more into GFE. Bully panda mogged, matsuri surpassed

>>50581389
European audience

>>50581155
Thy is Henya isn't counted as En? Her streams are in english with occasional translation. Even for Vshojo she isn't counted as JP and more like a hybrid.

>>50581155

>>50581535
be nice ;)
RJMAD

>>50581507
Maybe because Tempus is EN3 I dunno, it seems to look that way now that the real EN3 has been delayed for almost 2 years.At this point, the theme for EN 3 would be LEGEND5

>>50581155
As said before this is retarded but try to keep it up this will backfire horribly another way for watamage to fill her superchat meter.

>>50581560
not even that accurate which is sad since hes only following corpo vtubers

>>50581520
Some of these aren't even that bad

>>50581586
>Japanese
>Vshojo JP
>EN
Also kys.

>>50581602
but he said "it was always nice"

>>50581178
wait what happened with homo twitter?

>>50581553
keep trying diegomarcus, fuerza!

https://twitter.com/dizzydokuro/status/1663921296554577935
phasefags, explain yourselves

>>50581470
That's not the same stream. Valo vs. Pinneaple

>>50581155
BASED BASED BASED BASED
Make ensharts squirm, en tally was always a joke there's no reason not to add everyone who mainly speaks english.
>>50581434
just like the original en tally anon.

For the first time in a long time I finally decide to come back to the numbers thread and what the hell do I find? Incomprehensible walls of text, 5 different tallys, and Nijinigger falseflag infestation. Um... Who's responsible for this abysmal recline in thread quality?? Why must you ruin the one place where a numbers enjoyer connoisseur (such as myself) feels at peace. Why???

>>50581155
>Vedal987
Why not use the name "Neuro"?

>>50581619
Of course he's a shitposter rather than anyone with an actual interest in numbers.

Koone aiming to be Capcom's ambassador as well

>>50581650
The holopro and hololiveEN account got merged

>>50581507
They're high off of Kobo just like they were high off of Myth previously. When they fail to clone Kobo in ID4 they'll ignore them too, just like when Council couldn't replicate Myth.

>>50581637
kekd

>>50581535
Hurting feelings of moderator

>>50581586
If you go down the rabbit hole, you would also have to start including the Korean Twitch vtubers.

>>50581658
>Numbers thread
>Posts offtopic twitter and reddit screencaps.
You might just be a faggot, anon.

>>50581174
>The girls people want to find a husbands act like femcels
>The ones that people want to stay pure act like whores
Why is vtubing like this?

>>50581473
>>50581518
Ohhhhh, it was because of the rai-
>JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!
The EN lad got raided as well and STILL got mogged kek.
That's how GRIM things are

YESTERDAY’S MY VTUBER FAP TALLY OF THE DAY (5/31) (# of strokes)
>2,876: Chloe (Hololive) *Climax*
>2,065: Iroha (Hololive)
>1,081: Mel (Hololive)
>870: Koyori (Hololive)

How can >we save META bros

>>50581710
This. The gooks absolutely mog their "totally not vshojo" whores.

Did that funny tally hit your nerves?

>>50581520
How does she still have her job? Does JP not know?

>>50581631
nah they already implied that the vshojo jp thing is as good as dead

>>50581681
Is that just a generic hub or a lobby created by Korone for viewers?

>>50581720
he's actually using the rule 64 fanart? that's kind of weird

>>50581298
I don’t know how to explain this but I can only handle Kanata and Okayu. I can understand Miko and Pekora but it’s closer to understanding how people speak more than understanding Japanese.

>>50581728
good numbers with not even 1mill subs

>>50581183
Go Sora!
27 streams in May
8th in #streams/Stream time

>>50581744
> JP
> giving a shit about reddit
Watame just likes to use it like EN twitter from time to time, and even she has started to give up since all the JP lovers have left the subreddit for a while.

>>50581669
It is the burden that we must bear for being THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
An elephant dosent care about barking dogs

>>50581757
the > fucker is trying everything to incline, and failing miserably

>>50581744
All the complaints goes to the trash so en management is a shithole protecting each other asses

>>50581725
i thought towa was the one who masturbated the most, wtf

>>50581725
I'll object to this tally for two reasons
1) The fewer number of strokes it takes for me, the higher it should be in the tally
2) If I go with Chloe after Mel (for instance), I'm spent and it takes more strokes and I'm not seventeen anymore, I might not make it to conclusion

>>50581740
im just disappointed that the shitpost didnt even try to be remotely accurate and add the literal who vtubers from other sites that would have gotter an ire frome
more people considering some flip “vtuber” in fb live fot 40k auctioning sneakers

>>50581744
They don't understand how west works and believe T-chan that people outside of discord are a small minority

Alright, gonna sleep Anons. Gonna dream up being an EN 3 member who gets 20k ccv for every stream and when asked, "why don't you Collab with Stars?", I'll say no and say I don't like them because I want to watch them seethe. Afterwards, I'll go have lesbian sex with fauna

>>50581660
gotta support the cause

>>50581669
>5 different tallies
True number enjoyers would love it. They have more numbers to analyze.

>>50581757
He's not the first one to do so.

>>50581744
send them a report, in japanese form

>>50581507
Everything that’s happened and you still refuse to believe they were made as en3

>>50581744
any EN complaints probably go through these fucks

>>50581720
isn't this a misleading thumbnail?

>>50581183
Does anyone has number of streams per Holomem for each month for past 1-2 years? Hours streamed would be nice too.

>>50581807
Everyone is fine with the faggot making a twitch tally, but he doesn't want to do that cause he wants to use it as shitposting material.

>>50581720
As a fan of a lot of Tempus content, I have no fucking problem with Flayon getting shitty numbers playing Mystic Messenger. He still had way better rention playing that shitty game than Pizza Papa had playing Minecraft.

>>50581769
thing is, shes not just reddit that tchan does is it? shes also directly in charge of the en twitter account itself, as per what her discord leaks state

>>50581799
>some flip “vtuber” in fb live fot 40k auctioning sneakers
kek.

>>50581805
>men dreaming of being women
i didn't know pride also reaches the depths of /#/

>>50581806
retard that's the autist outfit kek

>>50581744
Have you ever dealt with a multinational company anon? This is an honest question. Most of the Jp management doesn’t even speak conversational English, the nuances of the EN speaking fanbase and culture are a complete mystery to them. Foreign branches have a lot of leeway out of necessity, some asshole probably rode the success of Myth until it became obvious they had nothing to do with their success. Monitoring and managing branches in a different country, in a different time zone, with a different language and culture is actually really, really hard

>>50581758
If it's any consolation, it takes some time to stick.
I've been watching Raw JP streams from time to time since early 2020, and it was only around early-mid-2022 that I started to understand enough to fully enjoy the streams.
Keep at it, and good luck. It was honestly VERY worth it for me, JPs are honestly just way better at this, even the ones with lower numbers.

>>50581751
I wasn't quite following the whole stream, it seemed like just a normal hub

>>50581728
I hope Facebook keeps throwing more of their money into that pit.

>>50581769
>even she has started to give up
You sure about that?
https://www.reddit.com/user/Tsunomakiwatame

>>50581869
Anon, dreaming to be a Holo is fine as all dreams are. You become a girl in your dream and went to Hololive just to be with your oshi. Just as all dreams are, I wanted to be a pilot but I found out I'm colourblind now im stuck becoming an engineer.

>>50581816
Optimally make a stink on Japanese boards with translated screenshots proving that she's listening to nijifags but that's hard to do correctly if you aren't a regular there

>>50581876
But I though the majority of EN management is staying in Japan?

moombutt

If a talent doesn’t even have 300k subs they’re basically not a real vtuber in my eyes. I suggest we ban all discussion of Holostars until the entire branch has the minimal sub count to be considered a novice big corpo vtuber (300k). Until then they should be relegated to /lig/.

>>50581744
It’s because it’s sanctioned by Yagoo. Sweeping changes like this don’t get signed off on without him seeing it and he’s homobeggar prime probably doesn’t watch them himself but he’s always posting about them. It’s just as bad with JP but retards don’t actually pay attention to JP they just shitpost

>>50581520
>>50581744
t.banned Redditors

>>50581928
top management
iirc middle management isnt

>>50581928
Based on linkedin, the majority of EN management are SEAs.

>>50581844
Isn't the MC of Mystic Messenger female? I have no clue but I figured it was just otome-level shit since that's what Flayon usually plays.

That diego dude is crying about the negative reception in vyt

>>50581969
>SEA likes males
Yeah, you know what, I buy this rrat

>>50581935
When Flayon drops below 500, StarsEN could qualify for /lig/. A matter of time at this point

>>50581935

>>50581969
Why does SEAs want to ruin EN but not let homoID be a thing?

>>50581844
Perfect for celebrating pride month!
(thank God I live in a place where almost no companies are celebrating this cancer)

>>50582020
I actually like her videos, she's pretty good but does way too much roblox

>>50581969
Alright, new rrat pulled from my ass, EN management is purposefully tried to tank EN because they want ID to be the top sidebranch.

>>50581744
I'm waiting on my coffee to actually wake me up, but my brain is reminding me about a japanese JRPG company, I think NIS/NISA? Anyway, NISA you probably know as the ones who've been translating/localizing stuff and butchering it in the process. I wanna say it was YS 8, but they fucked it up so bad that the fans went over their heads and sent complaints directly to the main JP hq, and shortly after they were forced to fix the damage they did. JP had absolutely no idea it was THAT bad because NISA, as their english branch, controlled all flow of information back home. NISA's response at the end of this was 'okay guys fine but never ever do that again, please, I beg you'.
Anyway, unless you can figure out how to forward this shit directly to yagoo or something it's never getting better, t-chan and his assorted fags covering his ass in EN management also handle complaints and feedback for the western market, they will NEVER let anything that could touch them make its way back home. I think the only reason leddit moderation slowed down so much after the lockdown is because it caused too much noise to be swept under the rug.

If we cant compare Youtube and Twitch number then how do we know who is the 2nd biggest agency in EN?? Nijien? Vshojo? some Indie

>>50581969
As long as cover keeps the requirement that you need to be able to commune to their office this will always be the case.

>>50582003
Why are you in the numbers thread, anon?

>>50582003
Does that dude even work? I see his name on every site that pertains to the holos

When StarsID is the new hot thing, maybe management will stop pushing Tempus so much and we can all ignore them in blissful peace. They’ll be last season’s toys and the ID fans can have a turn grappling with the forced merge attempts and give us a break

>>50582020
how many kids are going to pop their first boner to her?

>>50581243
I... thought she was tall. That's like Subaru's and Korone's height.

>>50582094
>Custom tags
Hello, Redditor.

>>50581650
>>50581690
No that one got discontinued because of the obvious fact that it’s not growing. This one was for translating JP and was huge I think at 700k followers so they think this will be better for talking about homos. Very first thing they do after taking it over is retweet the homos

>>50582112
still too tall for an anime girl

>>50582094
kek, he's not even saying which server

>>50582051
Sounds like a situation where someone was touting "popular demand" to get what they want

>>50582121
Fuck off Diego

>>50581673
I might change it to Neuro in the next one. I was conflicted on whether to use channel names or colloquial names.

>>50582112
Most holos are really short, which makes the taller ones seem huge by comparison.

>>50582112
korone is 154cm right?

>>50582145
>N-no you can't call me out!
Stay over on Reddit, retard.

>>50582168
Wish I had the image of Fauna towering over Peko during HoloFes

>>50582130
I wonder if screenshot of their tweets with takeover point marked would make for good thread in few days or if it's good enough already

>>50582147
>missing a whole lot more EN vtubers
>Mythic = Indie
kys

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>76,042: Aki (Hololive)
>58,439: Aqua (Hololive)
>46,169: Fubuki (Hololive)
>38,386: Kanata (Hololive)
>32,353: Lize (Nijisanji)
>28,237: Okayu (Hololive)
>23,139: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,913: VSPO (VSPO)
>18,348: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,243: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,766: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,353: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,819: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,608: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,299: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,025: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,421: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,412: Choco (Hololive)
>11,136: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,948: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,760: Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,480: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

Another Aki gold for a podium straight out of 2019 with Aqua and Fubuki for Silver and Bronze

I think something really big is gonna happen soon. The GFE JP holos have really really ramped up recently. Something tells me that they are trying to make sure we don't leave after a big thing happens.

list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

>>50582179
No, she's 156 meters tall.

>>50582121
What's "custom tags"? I may need to familiarize those Reddit things since I want to become a casual redditor in the future.

>>50582232
Any proof of this?

>>50582220

>>50582220

>>50582270
DAMN, this is good!

>>50582270
Abayo nigga

>>50581155
>twitch debuff (avg vs yt peak)
a hearty kek from me anon good shitpost. i look forward to the daily kys posts if you actually keep it up

>>50582299
I-its safe I think

>>50582232
good, they should do it more

>>50582299
Nipples are all good according to /a/

>>50582048
IIRC they were mostly non-ID SEA...since obv ID staff are hired for their own branch
Last I remember, the new EN director, Jap something or other, is either SEA or mongolian

>>50582259
Proof they're ramping it up? Just member a few of them.
Proof that something big is happening? I don't have any direct proof but I am reading the tea leaves. Can you say that you trust Cover not to fuck everything up?

>>50582322
I get hit just from areolas

>>50581917
She had a time period where she wouldn't post much, it's only after Helmite directly asked her to use reddit more that she started posting again.

>>50582375
>Can you say that you trust Cover not to fuck everything up?
Hell no

>>50582048
at least you said it was from your ass because that kind of shit cant come from somebodies head.

>>50582369
Jap's a Malaysian if my Google skills can be trusted.

>>50581155
xqc hit 50k yesterday why isn't he on the tally?

>>50582375
>holosummer will include holostars
how would you react?

>>50582433
>holostars
Go back

>>50581854
Just go to /lig/. They already have a devoted numberfag who tracks that and puts in the OP

>>50582255
>Shitposting when even a retard could see that Homobeggar/Anti EN3 clearly isn't something the website does itself.

>>50582051
your seeing it right now
the 2 threads about the announcement on the official subreddit are getting scrubbed clean by the moderators right now
it's full of removed and deleted comments now

>>50582433
I wouldn't mind them getting their own streams, in fact I kinda want to see Miyabi in tight one

>>50582433
>holostars
go back negra

>>50582449
ok muh homos in holosummer, how you react will?

>>50582433
Not watch a second of it and start funneling my money into roommates.

>>50582481
Is there a new site to check now? I used unddit last time but apparently some api change fucked everything up.

>>50582398
I don't care about that, anon. It's just obvious she's still using it frequently and has been for a year.

>>50581893
It’s good now and it’ll probably be better if I get it down but I don’t fully agree. They’re definitely better than most of en but certainly not all. Being able to understand better has made me appreciate gura more. She has her faults but purely as a streamer she’s as good as JP. I might change my mind later since like I said it’s just basic understanding but as of now I can see why she attracted the japs

>>50582488
>how you react will?
You might've set your translation app as "Yoda" ESL-kun

>>50581780
an elephant fears a mouse though

>>50582181
I love them

>>50582220

>>50582488
>>>/vt/mans
>>>/vt/stars
>>>/vt/nijien
>>>/vt/vshojo
>>>/vt/pcg
Go back

>>50581155
Just do a twitch tally

>>50582549
not if it's in hospice care

>>50581932
Are they not aware that mumei streams in her underwear?

>>50581535
If enough people report something Reddit itself automatically removes a comment or post.

>>50582255
google RES

>>50582480
I know those specific tags are fake. I merely thought the concept of custom tags aside from "moderator" or "OP" exists in reddit.

>>50582048
this but holostars instead of ID

>>50582651
>>50582579
>>50582484
>>50582449

There's no feeling in the world as raw and intoxicating as having a Discord clique. It's worth throwing everything in your life away to have 10-20 random Discord people chat with you and care about what you say. It's better than sex or drugs.

>>50582506
reveddit still works

did that plusmate leak any new websites lately or did he get stamped out

>>50582048
Why go that far when they are already are known for shilling holostars to the point that they force everyone else to stop streaming?

>>50582506
reveddit can restore mod-removed comments from user pages, but it's kinda flaky for me

>>50582072
Because only 2 companies have taken over amusement parks, and only one has broken barriers for their lesser competitors. All without outside forces

>>50582322
I got hit once for a similar one long back.

>>50582506
reveddit but it's unreliable

>>50582506
reveddit, but it cant recover all of them

How long is this thread going to talk about reddit and the fucking homos?

>>50582099
They added id to the en discord so they can welcome the homos. All while not telling the jp side about their existence. If they make homo id they’ll add them to en Twitter as well

>>50582769
until en3

EN3 were the friends we made along the way

>>50581969
Post the proofs or GTFO

>>50582769
Any time you try to call out Fauna for being a reclining whore they deflect to homos so never

>>50582523
Gura, yeah I agree. Probably 2-3 more of the top ENs too.
Problem is always that they aren't streaming though, isn't it?
It's the reason people ask for EN3 after all.

>>50582769
Until you bring something else to talk about

>>50582220
7-12 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>50582769
Until we get good news

>>50582605
Shirt, bra and panties is her usual getup. But she does keep emergency pants around.

>>50582769
until we get something else to talk about
got anything?

lewds doko faggots

>>50582211
Few days later would work but you’d have to explain it because so many people are unaware that this twitter was never about holo en. Even the supposed jp fans that litter here didn’t know about it

the worst of the holo fancords is that during pride month they put rainbow and trans flag on the server pfp but they don't put blacked on the server pfp during black history month
ok, time to go back to watch doog

>>50582072
While I do agree Twitch has inflated numbers compared to YouTube, I don’t think the inflation is actually as large as many anons here make it out to be, and the biggest EN Twitch vtubers are probably close to par with HoloEN nowadays (sans Gura). Or certainly at least much closer to peer status than NijiEN is.

>>50582433
Would be unhinged

>>50582549
and the mouse fears its own miniature

I just want EN3 to debut

>>50582813
No, I just reply to Faunaschizo with cunny

>>50582896
>Or certainly at least much closer to peer status than NijiEN is.
That's a no brainer, what that branch sinking below 4k

>>50582896
.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU2m_Dh5mS4
>123k in 3 hours
whaaaat?

>>50582813

>>50582919
Is that a MAtranny?

I still don't understand why we can't have seperate twitter accounts for Holo & HomoEn and then just have one account for "HoloproEN" news. Are they really that desperate for engagement?

>>50582961
FOTM

>>50582971
The transformation will be painful, but so worth it

>>50582942
nice fake site, it doesnt exists

>>50582961
This one I'll actually listen to. Fubuki love.

>>50582961
fubuki is the foxburgerking, so obviously

>>50583004
Because, anon, only one of those accounts would get views and followers. Only one of those products actually has an audience.
Stars is only viable if they're the misshapen, shameful, deformed conjoined twin of the thing people actually want.

>>50583004
It does exist, just not for EN
https://twitter.com/holostarstv

>>50582220

>>50583023 (me)
It was amazing. Thank you for the good cover, Fubuki.

>>50582961
I wonder if it also got a typhoon buff

>>50583004
Because they missed the timing and were not confident enough at the start.
Holostars en should have appeared since day 1 of tempus. But also im sure they have only 1 intern that doesnt watch the girls to begin with handling the en twitter account

>>50582886
So something like
>homo shilling
>---------
>JP news
?

>>50582896
twitch numbers arent inflated, its fucking youtube that crashes its own numbers you are literally playing with half a puzzle with youtube numbers. only time twitch numbers are gamed is if you are embedding on a massive website (fextralife) or you happen to be one of the front page featured streamers of the day.

>>50582044
Seething nigger worlder has gays finna rent free in the head
awww shieet

>>50583065
@hololivetv still posts both holos and stars. So even on the JP side they get preferential trestment.

>>50583004
they know if they made a starsEN account it will be a barren wasteland, especially when some members is almost a 2 views POPULAR DEMAND, just keep leeching the girls when theres really no point if the dudes can`t stand on their own

>>50583176
>starsEN

>>50582851
In which stream did she mention this?

>>50583018
it clearly existed at one point retard and they took it down exactly because it kept receipts of the bullshit youtube pulls off

>>50582232
Honestly they are either extremely horny or it’s finally clicked how this is better job than anywhere else. It’s definitely ramped up in the last 2 months but literally every problem en has jp has as well. Only difference is JP holos outnumber them and get all the jobs so it’s not as noticeable. There’s nothing they could do save adding homos to Hololive summer that would make fans unnaturally angry

>>50582961
>133k now
is this going to be 1 mil in 2 days kind of cover??

>>50582896
>adblock
>tab outs
>embeds
these three make it impossible to ever compare twitch to youtube not even counting the other problems like mute. it's cope to think hololive viewers aren't using adblock, don't use two monitors, don't watch multiple streams at once, don't tab out to other pages, and don't watch on holodex
twitch inflation has nothing on how much youtube cripples ccv

>>50582220
How are (You) going to reward your wine aunt?

>>50583160
>twitch arent inflated
I could have a stream muted and in another tab and i will still count as a view.
That is why is inflated while youtube has a lot of filters is a better metric for active audience watching a stream

>>50583197
Not everyone enjoys using 2nd-grade kindergarten insults like "Tempiss" and "Homos", even if they dislike the Stars.

>>50583163
Anon, there are less niggesr in my country than in your mom's bed right now

>>50583018
the state of this thread

>>50583251
>>50582579

>>50583018
newfagchama...
Vnuma was the precursor to vrabi (or rather the latter spawned when the former died)

>>50583233
>youtube actively sabotaging numbers if you ever so happen to ever use it as background noise is BETTER
kill yourself

>>50583261
>>50583254

>>50583018
>ESL
>Retard
Of course.

Here's what Mumei's next outfit is gonna look like. Just make it brown or purple instead.

FST will save this thread

>>50582220

>>50583274
Is one of the reason sponsors and advertiser prefer youtube. We hate it but it is better for the site to get sponsors happy with this kind if transparency.

>>50581744
English branches in JP companies of anything are extremely incompetent and JP side mostly not giving fuck , why do you think Hololive would an exception

>>50581155
I think we have different definitions of "Indie"

>>50582369
>since obv ID staff are hired for their own branch
Wrong, HoloID currently only has 10 staff members, and 4 of them were newly recruited 2 months ago. These are some of ID staff at Cover HQ who are not part of HoloID staff.

Is twitter TL function broken for anyone else?

>>50583274
I don't think it's objectively worse. If you care about your viewer engagement, you might not care as much about people who aren't paying any attention

>>50583274
nta but did you miss the part "active audience"
I can have twitch inadvertently running in a tab and I would still be counted

>>50583361
broken for me too

>>50582862
>Hag lewds
I only participate when it's cunny or hebe girls.

>>50582769
Hi, diegochama.

>>50583361
Been broken for me since last night.

>>50583018
There needs to be a web archive version of lmgtfy
https://web.archive.org/web/*/hiyoko.sonoj.net

>>50581358
YAGOO's biggest regret is seperating the male and female branches. If EN can prove that a co-ed gen can be successful then he can do the same to JP.

>>50583203
Can't remember exactly when, but the emergency pants thing was in a discussion with Ame, I think, underwear was in a solo stream. Said something about not wearkng much because of the heat, which cpupled with ban pants leads to underwear.
Her wearing a shirt on top is just me guessing, I doubt she only sits in a bra and panties.

>>50583356
>Have to deal with Indonesians everyday
Honestly, I would be tired too if I was an EN member.

>>50583356
I hope they get bullied on a regular basis

>>50582862
eh not in the mood right now and I'm watching Mr Paradise

>>50583390
ogey

>>50583356
>2 out a 3 on HQ is women
yeah good luck on StarsID its never happen

>>50583371
Yeah most of twitch viewers dont watch streams or have a bunch open and jumping between them and getting counted on all of them.
That is why polls have terrible engagemnet there.

>>50583361
Yep it's broken.

Awful retention. Shameful display foobs. Graph forma de niji

>>50583440
No wonder Kiara is so fucking racist

>>50583390
Based pedonaito.

>>50582923
Me too, I miss having an oshi
I don't think EN3 will remedy that but at least then I can be properly disappointed and kill off the little hope in the back of my mind

>>50583233
I would still prefer Twitch’s underfiltered counting over YouTube’s overfiltered counting. YT Polls being able to amass more votes than there are live viewers within only a matter of minutes is broken as hell. You can’t convince me that the viewer churn is actually that extreme.

>>50583422
Girls like being fully nude anon, especially when they have attention on them
The only reason they would have underwear on is due to either cold or their juices staining the chair

>>50583408
Good thing it doesn't work with EN either then

>>50583356
jfc that's grim

>>50583474
Well All her guests were either Homos or Nijis, so it's to be expected.

We need a Chun Li for EN3

>>50583422
Emergency pants was with Gura in the room review stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDcy2oqVsQ
>This stream was well over a year ago

>>50582816
Yea it’s very disappointing

>>50583233
Explain Kpop live stream.

>>50583339
>>50583368
>>50583371
When things like topic channels exist for music it's pretty stupid.

>>50583477
No that's just cause she's European. We're all racist against asians (minus Japs because they embraced Enlightenment) by default.

>>50583482
I would too.
But you as and advertiser, contnet creator, sponsor SHOULD prefer the other one
Is just more data that allows you to work better with how your channel is growing or where your ads should be targeted. Twitch creators dont give a fuck about a viewer average view time they only care about watch hours as a metric for success.

>>50583503
Anon, she has boobs. When you have those lumps of glorious fat you're gonna wear a bra half your time awake.

>>50583356
But I thought every subgroup had 35-40 staff members.

there was more popular demand for horsepussy en than tempiss

>>50583527
>>50583422
>>50583203
Glad to see someone else remembers that great stream

>>50583553
That has nothing to do with streams and topic views still work towards the channels views.

>>50583474
well, she didn't call anyone interesting

>>50583527
Ah. Guess I have to watch this stream again. Woe is me.

>>50583622
There probably were more demand for monthly Sana streams than all of tempiss combined

>>50583637
Gura-Mumei is a kino combo. Their Ark stream is also a classic.

>there are anons in this thread that didn't heed to Mio's warning
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES, ANONS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks2PZPQE2wM

>>50581744
>>50581876
Hmmm...
I think I'm getting a picture how things are within Cover. I'll use "Omega" to represent the side of management wanting to destroy HoloEN, promote the Homos and nijify Hololive. I know he's probably fired, but this group of people still remains within Cover nonetheless.

Now, obviously the way Tempus was handled was not well received in Holostars Japan branch, because they completely got shut out of the entire process of recruitment, branding etc. of what was supposed to be THEIR English branch.
Shinove would have at least told Yagoo about this - even if that wasn't the main reason for him leaving.
This + Gura's sudden roommate post after the gutting of her 3D Live would naturally have caused a lot of panic back in JP, which is around the time when A-chan revealed that she was taking English studies a lot more seriously.
Gura may have sensed the opportunity, leading to her bypassing EN management entirely in order to get her loli dakimakura approved by JP.

Now, Yagoo also said he's been learning English. Him starting to sit in on EN meetings (and saying that publically) + A-chan taking over HoloEN Youtube obviously made it so that Omega lost a lot of power they had over HoloEN.
You will also note that Nodoka has completely disappeared from the front lines, which probably means that a lot of back-end stuff that used to be handled by A-chan has been given to her so that A-chan can handle both her regular front facing JP duties + handling the EN channel. At least for a while.
I'm sure they're attempting to set up a management figure on the EN side as well, since A-chan won't be able to permanently handle the EN channel. Possibly one of the original 3 Myth managers.

Once the EN channel was taken over, Omega didn't have much leverage for asking it back either, since in their infinite wisdom, they hadn't done much themselves to grow the channel.

I think that this little twitter thing was a desperate attempt to scrounge up some form of clout and power in the HoloEN side that they have been losing for a LONG time.
And this is such an easy sell to Yagoo as well -
> Tanigo-san, we can use the big Hololive EN twitter account to promote Holostars as well!
> All under one group, HoloPro, would make it easier for the audience to accept them!
> Very few people click links from these accounts, so there is no harm done!
Now, Yagoo obviously won't say no to homo shilling. He doesn't know about the translation team that has been handling the HoloEN account, the ones who have been doing great work with translating tweets and stuff from the main account.
These guys have now been folded into Omega's wing, and they might get suffocated for a while. I hope if any of them are reading this, they take this to Yagoo directly, because I assure you he does not know the ground situation.

Good thing is that, I think both recruitment, training and branding of Hololive EN has been taken away from the Omega group. So this twitter thing is just scraps they have to scrounge up.
Of course none of this will be proven until EN3 lands... but I think that things may not be so dire in the EN sphere as many of /here/ think.

>>50583670
INDOGODS WW@?!

>>50583371
how is that bad though if you are actually listening and pay attention? I know when i have yt streams on its mostly in some buried tab while i work on other things knowing im literally 'not a viewer' is kind of shit despite listening to several hours of a stream.
>>50583339
ill concede this point its still shit though.

>>50583233
I will add onto the mute thing very few people actually do that unless its drop season for a game in which case yes thats a case of inflated numbers Id forgotten exists until i read your post.

>>50583677
The baby dodos...

>>50583638
Only for music channels. Where do you think Suisei and Marine get all their views from?

>>50583686
Did some more athletes die or what?

>>50583339
Yeah, youtube ads pay creators a lot more as well.

>>50583697
>unless its drop season for a game in which case yes thats a case of inflated numbers
That's the case right now for VShojo (and former VShojo) and Smite

>>50582961
that "aaa" is perfect
i love foobs

>>50583692
>>Good thing is that, I think both recruitment, training and branding of Hololive EN has been taken away from the Omega group.
This is cope but i do hope you are right

>>50583440
>He thinks the western staffs is better than the ID staffs
Remember those Cover Corp guidelines they dropped a few days back? that was all cooked up by the EN staffs and got approved by Yagoo.

>>50583004
>Give them a joint twitter goes so bad it kills EN’s actual twitter
You can’t figure out even 1 reason why they would rather take over another new account this time with 700k followers, not meant for either en branch, instead of making their own

>>50583742
Funnily enough, athletes kicking the bucket "mysteriously" precedes the pandemics, and is more likely due to "undetectable doping" that fucks their hearts (and give East German swimming chicks 4 inches long clits and armpit unshaveable hair)

>>50583697
because youtube values more an actively engaged audience, simple as, it's a good metric to see who is fully invested in the stream with their full attention

>Complain about lewds
>talk about homos and EN
>3 hags are literally streaming

>>50583482
passive viewers are barely better for advertisers than bots. youtube risk losing a shitton if it came out that 30% of their viewers are smart fridges. its better for them to over filter than to under filter, especially since they are still operating at a profit unlike twitch.

>>50583164
Don’t feed them it’s how you catch the shitposters

>>50583596
I don’t think sponsors and advertisers care about CCV period. Only subs and views.

>>50583361
same, I've been having to use my regular translation addon

EN3 ETA?

>>50583638
But is it any different?
Also what's the point in not counting CCV, but counting for views? If something is good enough for one why not the other?

>>50583130
Yea something like that would be perfect. Might have to add the actual holo twitter as well because they posted the en homos recently so it’s definitely been translated on that

>>50583164
The main criticism for the "holoproen" account was retweeting literally who fanart for Tempus while missing some of the girls milestones to the point it became a running gag that they would always make an immediate subsequent post for "da boys" after posting anything fot eh girls to make sure it is always the most recent post in their timeline

>>50583816
That shit was obviously written with JP in mind given it was dropped during JP primetime and only JP talents reacted to it.

>>50583834
yes, i'm watching a prime hag beat up her fans

>>50583902
July.

MAY VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks.
>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation inside the categories this month, but in general most categories remained stable or declining it seems.

>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 30-04-23 to 31-05-23 (~1pm jst).

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.

>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic

>>50583692
>This + Gura's sudden roommate post after the gutting of her 3D Live
That was two and a half weeks after the 3d live itself, rratmerchant, and right at the end of her September into October vanishing act that had everyone antsy. No one knows what the hell that was about but I definitely don't think it fits in with this.

>>50583697
Drops literally do that. People are not watching just afkingn there
While it is shit it is needed. Like doing a sponsor stream and im just listening ti it but not watching youtube gives this infonto the creator.
Is not a perfect system but is a system that gets more info and has advertisers happy.

>>50583816
>Written in JP and translated to English
>Dropped during JP hours
>Only JP talents reacted to it, EN talents appear to not even know it happened

Kiara numbers

>>50583974
me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams. The koreans of twitch remain deleting all their stream vods; while there are sometimes a few rare vods they upload on youtube that i can use. Veibae got suspended and her vods got deleted with it, i could only get one that was maybe too early. Added Mythic color tag.


As things of interest:
- subaru had her best position ever tied with another month
- watame had her best position ever
- azki had her best position ever
- chloe had her best position in a year
- mito had her best position in a year
- luna had her best position ever
- lui had her best position ever not counting her debut month
- sora had her best position in a year
- ichinose had her best position ever
- furen had her best position in a year
- sumire had her best position in a year

>>50583978
anon i did say that drops do that.

>>50581859
I'm pretty sure she's also the head translator.

>>50583760
True, except all you do is shorts lol

>>50583482
No body cares about your preference and that poll shit only happens with holos

>Kiara starts stream
>Mogs all other EN vtubers online

>>50583845
Yeah i also think twitch will never filter the ccv like that even tough it is easy because how bad it will look after.

>>50583313
Oh yea if they copy myth next is formal

>>50583974
>>50584027
It's going to take me a while to read all this

>>50584027
>>50583974
Oh hey it's chart anon didn't read again, Miko wins nice

>>50583974
>>50584027
Return of the King

>>50583974
>>50584027
>Gura #3 on a tally based on VOD
>2 public streams in the month
kek

>>50584027
Go Luna!

>>50583665
kek

>>50582322
About that...

>>50584055
Except if*

>>50584014
Better than her jrpg streams i guess

>>50583692
>omega lost control
god i hope you are right, i need some copium right now, my worse nightmare is holo mutate into niji

Why must they do this to me...

>>50584027
So Fauna is #2 in EN

>>50584079
Why doesn't Vesper get more views he's better at the game than Fauna

This thread is full of self-admitted Sapling, Iryscrats and Moomans. Take any statements with a grain of salt.

hag love..
lewdposter love..