/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Cum dump general

>>5014160
>Shions infected belly button

>>5014231
i would be happy to tend to it

>>5014160
You again? Just no.

>>5014749
the sad face makes me laugh

Can it perhaps be had sex with?

>>5015019
i want to do that

>>5015019
Just rub your duck on it and cum on her flat chest

Over 2 weeks and still not back yet. Is she competing with Ayame to produce less streams?

Shion's vagina bones...

I wonder what Shion is doing RIGHT NOW

>>5014160
Graduation when?

>>5018527
masturbating to this thread

>>5016680
Zion has fallen...

>>5016680
she is making covers on a secondary channel with a friend, I am guessing that's why she can't do it normally

>>5016680
why the fuck would she stream when there's people literally out to kill her at this moment, like cartels beheading people
she'll still need to settle the court case first but I doubt that'll pretend some suicidal hater from taking her life and their own

>>5021982
Give me a quick rundown on this

>>5022214
antis stalked and beat up a woman who they thought was shion
this was proof enough for shion to sue the attackers because they meant harm
she had to pay the legal fees out of her own pocket because Cover refuses to support and protect her

>>5022641
what
the
fuck
I saw a tweet saying something about hiring a lawyer before but didn't know why

>>5022641
What the fuck? What’s the source on the girl being beaten up? Fucking hell.

>>5022641
sauce or rrat

>>5022214
A rich mexican cartel member offered her money to become his "wife"

She refused and he put out a bounty on her body

>>5025033
She is suing someone, but this is the first I’ve heard of the antis beating up the other girl. I thought she was suing because of a picture people were spreading around claiming the girl was Shion when it wasn’t.

>>5025276
Yeah, that's all I know as well. Well, besides the fanbox stuff in general.

>>5022641
How the fuck did he mistake some random chick for Shion in first place? Her voice and character is pretty bland, there is no way to tell who is who irl

>>5025204
holy fuck

>>5025276
other than this I can't find anything, I think it's still the photo story

>>5014231
It looks more like weird lighting. Not inflamed...

Guys I think we should contact Cover about Shion, I don’t believe the stalking story from above but she is posting seriously suicidal stuff in her fanbox. Someone needs to help her before she does something fucking stupid.

>>5026580
>contact Cover
contact aqua instead

>>5026637
Like that will help. Contact Mio or Marine.

>>5026637
>Aqua
No. Choco.

>>5026863
also what's with the suicidal stuff? I see posts locked behind 10k yen, I am guessing you are talking about those?

>>5026972
I can’t afford the 10000 yen ones. I’m talking about her saying she wants to disappear and she’s “between living and dying” and she wonders why she should live for several decades more.

>>5026863
How could we even contact the other members? And I wonder if this wouldn’t just push Shion away. But it’s getting serious enough that maybe we shouldn’t be worrying about that.

>>5027117
tbqh I just discovered the fanbox so I have no membership yet at all
>she wants to disappear and she’s “between living and dying” and she wonders why she should live for several decades more.
that's sad, I hope she doesn't forget that she has many supporters and fans

Is this some kind of high level rrat? or we are in the presence of another huge YABE?

>>5027365
No, go away.

>>5027117
>10000 yen
That's a little steep. I could afford it since I make $50 an hour but I'm not too sure I should be messing around in her private life and spilling it on 4chan.

>>5027299
>How could we even contact the other members?
I don't know. We don't have anyone that is in someone important's ear. I'd rather she be pushed away than for her to cause self harm.

>>5027630
I think I'm going to start with Cover since we have a definite way to contact them. They have a duty to protect their talents.

>>5026580
>>5027354
Is this what they called japanese gene? Do they have solve everything in life with suicidal? She is an idol fucking dammit this kind of shit is inevitable, if she can't deal with it then she doesn't belong here

I langh my ass off if she did. This is beyond stupid

>>5027801
do it. pls

>>5018527
Sleeping. Or awake laying in bed staring at the ceiling not wanting to do nothing

>>5028358
I submitted an inquiry. I really hope they take this seriously, this is not a joke.

>>5028105
anon she's 18 yo menhera neet. cover shouldn't hire her in the first place, but it is what it is

>>5028426
What do you even tell them? I want to help but I would just cause troubles probably if they ever read my messages.

>>5027365
An 18 year old killing herself is 100 times worse than Coco leaving due to chink shit or creative differences.

>>5028472
First of all I told them that she's being harassed and she should not have to pay out of pocket for a lawyer to protect herself. They should be helping her with all of that. Secondly, she's expressing suicidal thoughts on her personal account and they need to do something before she hurts herself or worse. They can't afford to wait and see for something like this. They need to be proactive.
The problem right now is that she's only telling a small group of her fans that can see her fanbox what she's feeling. Nobody who is capable of helping her for real is aware of the real danger here. I feel bad in a way because Shion is trying to prevent information from leaking but this isn't mundane personal diary stuff, this could really be dangerous. So even if I defy her wishes, it's for the best if she doesn't hurt herself in the end.

OP here i left for like half an hour for lunch what the fuck happened to this thread?

>>5028687
>Nobody who is capable of helping her for real is aware of the real danger here
That's what I thought too, she seemed to turn away from the majority and all those who support her which isn't going to help.

>>5028687
I say this, in all seriousness, that fans are absolutely the last people who should consult with for emotional comfort on this level. They will say nice things and good things but they are incapable of doing anything. Friends and family are literally the only people.

Also I think you came in with too much vinegar, probably should have used some honey or just said matter-of-factly the things you were reading.

I would rather she graduate than do anything rash.

>>5028988
I was a little more emotional here than in the actual inquiry. But yes, though I'd be very sad I would much rather she graduate than hurt herself, of course.

>>5028687
if cover fuck this up, well...
she actually help aqua on vampire cover so she probably still in good contact with her at the very least

>>5029040
Just saw the special thanks section under vampire, that is good to hear.

>>5026580
She already has trust issues. That's a great way to make sure she never trusts anyone ever again. We've already gone through this with Aloe, seeing how most of the people i the Fanbox actually care about her will get her to open up more. She did say she started it to have someone to talk to.

Ironically, Aloe would probably be the best person for her to talk to since she was also targeted by antis.

>>5029037
Well, you can be freer here than most places, I can't say I blame you since I am upset at Cover for the same reasons.

>>5029040
Aqua isn't a bad person and I'm glad her and Shion are still getting along but I'm not sure Aqua is equipped to feed herself, much less help someone.

>>5027630
The reason she made the 10,000 yen posts is because antis paid their way into her Fanbox and it's not likely they paid that much to harass her from the inside.

>>5028105
We don't actually know what's going on with her other than the lawyer thing over the image and that her covers (and apparently DM's and such) are being filled with anti stuff.

>>5029151
>She did say she started it to have someone to talk to.
That's good. I'm just hoping that person can actually do something and isn't a fucking fan. Fans are meaningless.

>>5028687
I really thought she was turning better. IF there was a delicate way of messaging Choco Sensei about this maybe that is a better way. Subaru is kind of oblivious to this kind of stuff. Okayu and Aqua are no better. If you @ them on Twitter everyone else will see

>>5029151
i believe she's already in contact with aloe, they're know each other even before hololive. but the only advice she can give is to graduate.

>>5029276
I think @ing them on twitter would be a terrible idea, Shion would see and feel completely exposed. No, bad idea.

>>5029326
>>5029276
Re-reading your post, I might have misinterpreted it. You mean we should find another way, right?

I suggest we do nothing and when the shoe drops we'll blame everyone but ourselves.

>>5029367
Yes. Let's find another way to make Choco know about this.

What did she even do to get such aggressive antis?

>>5029263
Like I said, we went through this with Aloe. Shion has locked herself off and isn't telling anyone about anything going on right now. She opened the Fanbox and started talking some, so there's at least some low level of trust there that she feels she can share. Fans would show her that it's ok to open herself up, and should encourage her to do so with the important people in her life who can actually help. At least that's what I did with my comments. Trying to force her is going to solve nothing and is only going to make her feel betrayed again.

>>5029261
She's only going to get gachi salarymen with that high of an entrance fee. On some level I don't want to join because it feels too personal, it isn't about the money.

>>5029151
Yes, she has trust issues, but I don't think we can bet on the coin toss that she won't hurt herself and everything will be resolved by venting in a fanbox. Many preventable suicides happen because people want to look the other way and hope for the best.
>>5029429
The situation is so delicate, it's frustrating. I try to support her with my comments too but we're just fans, we can't too much more than that.

>>5029297
We don't know if they're in contact or not. She liked a fanart of Delta and there is the coincidence of them both lawyering up around the same time + her now opening a Fanbox like Aloe's been doing.

>>5029419
I think it's tribalism. I think people are attackiing her for being inactive and not doing much in Hololive recently. Now that she's doing some roommate stuff, they feel insulted that she doesn't do the same as Shion.

>>5014160
Dang i open this thread hoping for cunny goodies..

>>5029475
She's only running with that right now until she figures out what to do. As someone else put it, antis repeatedly getting banned from her Fanbox at $5 a pop isn't as damaging to the wallet as $15+ is.

>>5029534
>Clicked for cunny
>Now I'm worried for her
I didn't ask for these feels

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND TO THIS THREAD?

>>5029482
>everything will be resolved by venting in a fanbox.
That's not the point at all. The point is to show her that she can trust people. Dedicated fans can at least do that, as has already been demonstrated with Aloe. The problem is Shion is already being hit hard yet has none of the support setup that Aloe did.

>>5029429
Send her to the looney bin and give her drugs that balance her serotonin and dopamine levels.

>>5029540
Hhhmm... is there any hobby that you can suggest to her that she can get into? Besides making depressing music?

There are other things we can do to support her, I think. If you guys have paid attention to Aqua's personal twitter tag, when she went on her mental health break, fans filled the tag with good morning messages and other positive stuff every day to make sure she knew they weren't forgetting about her. People did that because she directly told them about her problems, but Shion is bottling it all up. What if we tried to start something like that?

>>5029700
That's a great idea. Maybe if we make Shion MC server and just fill it up for her

this thread turns me into a concernfag. wth

>>5029631
She doesn't even trust friends/family with the information about what's actually going on, what makes you think she wants to be locked up and drugged up?

>>5029633
You can suggest anything you want in the comments. Doesn't mean she reads them or that she'll take it up. Although, she acts like she reads them.

I'm not in the 10K tier though so idk if there's more stuff in those posts or if it's asking what to do.

>>5029540
Professional health care or friends and family are the real solution. I don't think trusting internet strangers will go far.

oh dude, share all the clips those YT clippers are making for her. The animated ones too. People are still clipping her almost everyday

>>5029700
Good idea. Korone said when she was considering graduation that going their her hashtags and seeing fans posts about her changed her mind.

>>5028594
no joke, she should quit the streaming business entirely, she should focus on survive instead of worrying about entertaining old faggots with overweight, and recover her mental health completely
>>5028687
>she's only telling a small group of her fans that can see her fanbox what she's feeling. Nobody who is capable of helping her for real is aware of the real danger here. I feel bad in a way because Shion is trying to prevent information from leaking but this isn't mundane personal diary stuff
easy savior knight, you are not that special, nips are already talking about it all over the place and cover should know about this ages ago.
https://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-13371-106248.html
https://vtuber-matome.com/vtuber-13372-106250.html
https://tarte.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/sugiuraayano/1623481054/

this thread needs a rrat extermination

>>5029808
Again. The point is to encourage to open up to those people who can actually do something.

>>5029838
>オナニーとセックス
I'm not reading whatever that is.

She must be in contact with Coco right? Maybe she will help her?

>>5029973
It's possible, but we don't know. She's still scheduled to do the meme review with her before Coco leaves.

>>5029838
>cover should know about this ages ago.
They probably don't want legal liability so feigning ignorance is business smart. Morally reprehensible though.

>>5029838
>ages ago
>12 June 2021

whats with all the schitzo posting?

>>5029973
What part of "she's not telling anyone" don't you understand?

>>5029178
also aqua is already under antis attack too. hololive sure had a lot of hater it's pretty scary.

>>5029838

>>5029859
You know I dated a girl that just turned 18 that was like this. Suicidal. Stuck. No plans. Really jaded about everything. Turns out she was bi-polar. No amount of comfort I gave her helped her. It actually turned her into a needy monster that got upset with me every time she thinks my affection was not enough. Meds helped her. Hhmm... but I don't know about Shion. It took her months to even consider it. I talked her into it. I think she only agreed after I broke down and said I was tired of her. We still broke up though. But I don't mind. She has her meds and can function like a normal person now. I hope she does find at least a friend that can convince her to eventually talk to a professional. Asians are so skeptical about these shits. My Ex was asian

>>5029884
>the exact same shit as /vt/
why are you here?

>>5030158
Sure. But if you were her friend, would you actually believe that? And anyone can purchase in. I'm pretty sure all of the hologirls has the money to purchase in

>>5030361
What a coincidence, Aloe was also bi-polar. Our trial example is even more apt.

Also she said she already went to a hospital, but didn't specify if there was anything else (meds, treatment, diagnosis, etc.)

This is become case of depression. She need a doctor, not a lawyer.

>>5029838
>オナニーとセックス
sign me up

>>5030217
>tell the difference

enough skitzo posting post shions tummy

>>5030468
Based on my experience with my Ex, the professionals there tends to be less professional. She wasn't happy with the first 2 people she consulted with. She only started trusting the 3rd one she went for. The first 2 were rude and quick to judge which was surprising to me.

>>5030436
Apparently she's said she only has like 3 real friends. But either way, they don't know about it and there's potential it could push her away even more if they brought it up themselves.

>本当に誰も信用できなくて、それは今も。
>私自身仲いい人でもこの人にこういう話はしてよくて、でもこの話はしてはいけないなど結構人に気を使ったり、自分を守るために線を引いて生きてきました。
>私のことは私しかわからない、だから詳しく話す必要が無いって思ってる。
>しかも勇気を出して話したことで毎日誰かに言われてるかなとかもし言われてるのを知ってしまったら二度とその人と関われなくなってしまう。

>昔そういうことがあったから余計人は信じれないし、期待しては行けないと思う。

This is from today.

>>5029973
i hope coco successfully makes her show up on the meme review

>>5030567
That's another problem. If you don't feel that the person actually cares or you don't have a connection with them then they aren't going to be able to help you. It can take time to find a good fit.

>>5022641

Try channeling your creativity into writing a trashy novel.

>>5030217
kek faggot hypocrisy

>>5030617
She sounds like my ex. She is already skeptical of the ability of me and is only looking at things inwardly. I understand her disposition though. Even sharing a similar story might not even help her or convince her that you will understand her. In these cases, you have to ask for more questions so that she understands that you won't flinch to anything she says. Don't give any advice at all. Just make her talk.

I still think graduation is the best option. Antis win but at least they will get bored eventually.

>>5030779
Don't be pushy with your wording though because she might be put off. Don't ask any questions that would denote anything related to the future. My ex used to get so fixated about stuff that happened to her in the past. It's like opening a scab and letting it bleed over and over

>>5030779
Yeah obviously, but she's being tight lipped about it so it takes time. Meanwhile she's getting stressed out by everything that's going on. Also you shouldn't say you understand her, because none of us probably do, at least not fully, but also because she believes that no one does and it would be a turn off to insist you do.

>>5030861
Aloe just gone done taking an anti to court because he was still harassing her. Also
>who are the zhangs

>>5030922
But it helped her process her emotion and made her functional for the time being. When she's feeling better that's when I suggest to do healthier stuff like going outside or pushing her to talk to her friends

>>5030931
Yeah. Sorry for the phrasing. Don't say that you understand. Just express that you do want to listen and you are there to listen when she's ready if she wants to.

weird times we live in that people pay a hundred dollars to read a depressed girl's blog posts, then discuss how to "save" her in a thread that started with a picture of her character's belly button.

i am worried about her and i hope she's okay, but I don't think meaningful help will come from this thread.

>>5031192
> I don't think meaningful help will come from this thread.
obviously, but somehow talking about this ease my worries a bit

>>5031192
I am a Shion anti but I only do it to terrorize her fans, not her, so I don't feel like I've done anything wrong. No one in this thread can do much. I can't because my japanese isn't great.

>>5029415
Wouldn’t it be the easiest to just contact her through her roommate account?

>>5031192
>I don't think meaningful help will come from this thread.
Maybe, but I only have you guys to discuss this with. I don't even know if this topic/territory is still allowed on /vt/ because it's somewhat personal to her, I am just worried.

>>5031192
We definitely can't save her directly, but as stated above there are things we could do to try and bring some positivity to her. What else are we gonna do? Just watch? Alone, as individuals, we are powerless. But together we might be able to show her that her fans aren't abandoning her, that we're still thinking about her, and how much good she has done for us.

>>5031450
Jannies don't care as long as it isn't in global. They're not paid enough to venture outside of there.

>>5031662
>TIL: jannies got paid

>>5031752
only in hot pockets

>>5031450
Mate. As long as she is talking that means she's actively seeking help in her own way. Granted that it isn't the healthiest way but it is a step. I don't have money to support her there but I hope there are grown-ups in that fan box that will eventually encourage her to seek consistent medical help. The problem with people that do have serious problems is that they think their problems will be fixed if certain conditions are met, like if only someone can understand me or if only I had a real friend to talk to or if only I had something passionate to be busy with. It isn't really true because you can have all those and still be depressed. So yeah. I wish her well.

>>5033010
>I hope there are grown-ups in that fan box that will eventually encourage her to seek consistent medical help.
There are, someone linked her to a youth mental health support organization earlier today. Others are encouraging her to get professional help.

>>5033114
That is promising. I hope she takes the offer. Noone can truly really understand you but the point that someone tried to listen to you and accepted your thoughts without judgement is important. I'm afraid if she shares them just like the internet, they will spread. Better for her to really share those painful moments with a professional that is bound by law to protect her thoughts

>>5033223
Exactly. She's struggling to contain information leaks, but as this thread has demonstrated, you don't have to be an anti to end up leaking it anyway. Concerned fans will want to discuss how they can best support her, and that means sharing that information. With a professional there's no chance of this happening.

>>5033010
>It isn't really true because you can have all those and still be depressed.
It can be true, if your relationships aren't where you'd like them to be. I spent a lot of time being depressed as certain friendships/relationships dwindled. Eventually found some friends that I have more shared interests with, and had had similar experiences, and things got better.

It's like that whole thing about working a job you love so you never feel like you're working. People want a purpose and a place where they feel they belong. Disharmony with that can result in issues.

>>5033456
I don't know what goes in with Shion's personal life. And I'm glad for you. However, she's in a very delicate disposition where she can't really do normal stuff right now. And She's young. She's been in the internet for far too long. Found early success. She has such a an entangled relationship with it. This is just a perfect recipe for a disaster. Unless she can be 100% sure noone will spill I think doing this kind of thing is dangerous.

Stupid thread aside, what's the reason she has so many antis? I feel like a newfag asking this but I really don't know much about her and her roommate compared to other girls

>>5033663
>Unless she can be 100% sure noone will spill I think doing this kind of thing is dangerous.
It's not as if she's going to suddenly spill her deepest darkest secrets. Ideally, opening up a little to fans will show her that people can be trustworthy, and they would try to get her to open up to friends and family, people that can actually help. + get her to get help.

>>5033927
What she's sharing right now is quite enough for people to get amused enough to push her and see what she does. I'm guessing she has an inbox full of it already. So I am still skeptical. But if you say the responses are helpful to her and encouraging her to seek medical help then I will stop with that.

>>5033819
Nothing, she's just young and vulnerable so she's easily victimized.

>>5033819
her vtuber persona is literally a bitchy JK who insults men, makes sense that someone would eventually take it too far and try to get her back irl

>>5034047
From the sound of it they were doing that even before the fanbox. And she does have a full inbox. From her twitter:
>ごめんよ(TT)いろいろDMとかでいいことも悪いことも教えてくれたりするんだけど助かったりもしてる!返事は出来ないけどありがとう。

You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. She's decided to close herself off from friends and family about what's going on. She also said she's already been to the hospital. Even if you did get her to seek help right now, she would still have problems opening up because she feels she couldn't trust that person that's trying to help her.

On the other hand, she's decided to try Fanbox, and is thankful for all the kind replies. I'm not saying fans are a solution, but that's the path she's chosen so at the least they can be step 1 towards a solution. Show her positivity and that people can be trusted and you can help steer her back towards trusting the people closest to her, and towards people who can actually help.

So, anyone has an archive of all Shion streams? I only have Aqua's

is this el final jab

She gone

>>5038660
what!?

>>5038660
dont scare me like that

in an hour

>>5040256
YES. I hope she feels better now

>>5040256
There are antis already

>>5040386
Also has chat to member's only, tho I don't think it's as bad as aqua's return stream.
Anyway, you saviorfags wanna atleast move to >>5040257 ?

Shion yo...

Shion.........live.

>>5014231
From storing too much cum

>>5026580
So what up with all of this Shion stuff? Did she say or did something like Aloe/Coco to create her antis?

>>5014160
CUM IN TUM

>>5029838
Anon. If she quit streaming what would she do? Be a wagie and work 10 hours a day? And having to take the misstreat of people? Shes better being a streamer that rarely stream than a wagie

>>5066085
sometimes having easy to do work is better. you must remember being an entertainer is work without easy answers -- it requires constant effort and thought.
if you work a convenience store there isn't much thought or effort required. yes, it is it's own hell, but it's one where an hour = x$ every time except for overtime or sunday premium. there are no seasonal decreases, performance issues, etc -- you show up and do the job and get paid a flat rate.

as someone who's been out of work these last 6 months i sometimes envy my old self, as stressed out as i was. i've never been more suicidal than i am now, despite being comfortable and able to spend money on very nice things. well i say never but rather my past suicidal tendencies, awhile ago, were based on anger and other emotions -- now i just feel empty. everything feels fruitless... etc etc, not my blog.
you might think her stupid, and i might too, but there is something to the relaxation of consistency in a job like minimum wage.

>>5066749
as an example of what i'm saying, consider the taiwan incident. coco completely fucked herself over for the rest of her life, essentially, all within about thirty seconds of streaming via saying fucking taiwan. every stream could be the one to end your career or permanently cripple yourself. some have to wear a mask while people are all honest with them... how would you feel if you had to wear a mask when people who admired you and loved you talked with you? it'd feel bad, right? random customers who have no interest in you are much easier to deal with.

>>5067509
Or, y'know, there could be proper anti-spam measures and moderation in her chat.

>>5067973
asia is a different beast. china had a sinocentric view of the world for thousands of years, one which had japan and other 'lesser' states pay them in gifts of tribute. this was so extreme that it led to the decline of china when world trade really started taking off.
which is part of why you have so many crazy chinese people in hololive chats. you don't see it in the west because they don't view us as under their control or as 'should be' under their control. an enemy, sure, but one they don't find the same as japan or other asian nations near them.

you cannot reason with chinese insanity. they will find a way through every time.

the only hope we have, ironically, is the chinese goverment. they're currently working on a new internet protocol, one which may only be adopted by a handful of nations including china. such a new protocol would make vpns and other methods much harder.
https://www.ft.com/content/ba94c2bc-6e27-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

of course if starlink gets into china we're fucked. but i doubt china would allow any infrastructure like starlink since it's inherently outside of their control, up in space.

>>5068230
Or you could just range-ban Taiwanese IPs from chat.

>>5068230
You don’t see it the west because they mostly use twitch and you can’t really get more cancerous than twitch chat. They do the spamming for you, but instead with pepe

>>5069259
they still try but the effort is much less. asia is china's kingdom, as far as the chinese are concerned, and they wish to dominate it. especially now that they see themselves as in a position of power.

think of it this way: how does the west treat anime and how does the east treat anime? in the west it's common wisdom we can't emulate it well and there is an eastern and japanese mindset + culture behind it which is not easily emulated. for the most part western taboos are disregarded or muffled while we enjoy anime, apart from the occasional woke idiot on twitter nobody cares about. china, on the otherhand, says "fucka you dis is my shito" and proceeds to try to control the anime industry and make knock-off derivatives. as far as they're concerned it's not Japanese but actually asian.

chinese are entitled beyond belief. this cannot be easily washed away.

>>5070998
>chinese are entitled beyond belief. this cannot be easily washed away.
look up yuri bezmenov and demoralization