/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49467587
DILDOSANJI DEFLECTION thread

>>49467587
if the actors decided they weren’t going to do a show anymore, and decided to do an entirely different show at another network, I would watch the shit out of that show. That sounds kino

>>49468253
Get it time, it's the "nijisanji keep youtube play button" yab deflection.

>>49468590
>kino
Let make me easier for /tv/tard like you.
It's like adam sandler movies, some people prise Uncut Gems, while none watch Going Overboard.
Vtuber is a character, voice is just 50% of vtuber.

>>49468590
>watching something because it has a famous actor in it
Why are Americans like this?

>>49467587
>if it completely changed to something else even if the actors were the same, would you?
agreed, except it didn't completely change
she just joined vshojo and looks different
it's the equivalent of an actor changing clothes between one season and another
vshojo has no equivalent because joining vshojo has literally 0 impact

You don't have to if you don't want to, nobody should care.

>>49469007
>>49468997
I mean, in this case the actor is running the show still, right?

i never really watched her anyway but the point isnt that im not a fan, the point is not to be toxic towards entertainers and content creators who are at the end of the day also human beings.
dont like what you see? dont watch! go eat a pizza and have fun. that should be the end of that, instead you gotta cry about it like you have a blue check mark lol (:

This is fine; people can like the same thing for different reasons, obviously. I'm going to watch Henya for the same reasons that I watched Pikamee, but it's pretty clearly going to be at least a somewhat different experience, so it's totally rational to not be interested, if your reasons for enjoying Pikamee were different from mine.

>>49470768
It's not the same, that's the point.
Vtuber is voice + charater.
Pikamee is not henya.
For example, i think pikamee's design is way better than henya's. That alone is enough for me to stop watching her.

>>49471057
I agree. No sweat off my back if you wanna drop her, she's doing fine even without our support. The only thing I wouldn't recommend is harassing talents for whatever reason.

>>49467587
This is so ambiguous, it could literally apply to any vtuber.

>>49467587
Oshi switched up on you? Haha bro that must suck my condolences haha

>>49467587
>Isn't aware of the change in VA

>>49471057
character is not just live2d
personality is what makes a character not the appearance

>>49467587
while this is a bad faith shitpost OP he is right that it's just gaslighting bullshit to imply chuubas, companies etc are allowed to dictate to you what taste you're "supposed" to have, what you're "supposed" to like, what's "right" to support.

there IS NO SUCH THING as a "right" or "wrong" taste for this stuff. it's like if Jelly Belly was gaslighting its audience into buying a specific flavor of jelly beans and you are literally a bad evil incel jellybeans anti and probably a rapist in the making if you don't like the flavor the company is pushing.

>>49471057
vtuber = voice + persona + avatar + environment

Coco with Pekora's voice is not Coco
Coco with Pekora's avatar is not Coco
Coco in Hololive is not same Coco in VShojo

>>49473790
I forgot my main point also, which is that companies don't have a right to guilt trip you into supporting someone if you don't actually feel like it anymore. nor are you obligated to like a company forever just 'cuz.

if this thread is really about pikamee I would say it's totally fine to not like her anymore because she joined vshojo. when athletes get traded in sports teams, fans might start to anti that dude, it unironically is very common, and vshojo is an extremely different team to play on vs VOMS.

>>49473906
fucking hell rather I mean, it's like when an athlete goes and signs a contract for a different team. it's like he's betraying his old one. it's not fucking hard to process (but hard for me to type when I'm half-awake still).

>>49473832
you forgot personality(different from persona), style, background, environment engagement(separate from environment itself)

>>49473906
>when athletes get traded in sports teams, fans might start to anti that dude
this is fucking insane and should be illegal in any civilized country

>>49474062
>it should be illegal to have an opinion

>>49474115
anti isn't an opinion
you can hate ideas all you want but the very act of hating people gives cause for menheras to be stressed and women that aren't menhera are basically men
since all women should be forced into being menheras, antis are basically terrorists that cause active harm

>>49474237
Post tits.

>>49467587
>I like the brand, not the content creators!
nijinigger detected

>>49474237
If they can't handle being hated for doing something that they should have been fucking well-aware was telegraphed in advance would produce antis, then that's on them. The fans don't fucking owe them anything just as much as the vtuber doesn't owe them anything. It should take like 2 minutes of market research to conclude "hmm vshojo definitely is not liked by all vtuber fans hmm.. so if I went and joined them those people might not like me as much, okay" instead of go "what!?!? how could they not like me after I joined this hated group!?? how could this happen, I didn't do anything!!! nooooo I'm going insaaaane this is YOUR fault"

>>49474394
nobody sane would assume that people who treat her as if she committed the sins of a group just by joining it, since vtubers are perceived as individuals and not as members of the group they are a part of

>>49474518
the group they are in matters. a lot. if it didn't then hololive wouldn't need to exist.

>>49474387
>It's not a matter of brands versus talents. It's just a matter of my personal preferences for entertainment.
It's spelled out right there, numbskull.

>>49467587
Ok. Bye bye, random name in chat

>>49467587
thanks for the twitlonger or whatever that is. ill read it later

>>49467587
>Why are you expecting me to do the same thing for some internet person?
Nobody is.
>more like how I'd like a writer or artist/this isn't a marriage
The relationship between an audience and the creator doesn't work like that, or at least it does as long as the receiver doesn't actually give a fuck. When you become invested in something you follow the person who made that something for all his life in the hope to receive the same genuine emotions he gave you the very first time. You don't watch Blade Runner and ignore all the other Ridley films or you don't start with Kagemusha if you are not gonna watch Kurosawa's black-and-white era. If you don't give a fuck about that you are a tourist which again is fine but don't paint yourself as a devoted fan of her previous persona since you clearly don't give a fuck. also stop using korone for your abysmal takes retard

>>49467587
mucho texto

>>49467587
haha funny dog

>>49473906
>when athletes get traded in sports teams, fans might start to anti that dude
This highly depends on the circumstances.

I don't know about indie or small corpo shit but if you're a holochad it's impossible to follow other girls the same way once they leave, there's just always something happening in hololive

>>49479511
>he watches multiple holos
whoreslut

>>49479680
Yes I watch every holo that doesn't collab with males

>>49475022
>When you become invested in something you follow the person who made that something for all his life in the hope to receive the same genuine emotions he gave you the very first time.
Grow up.
>You don't watch Blade Runner and ignore all the other Ridley films or you don't start with Kagemusha if you are not gonna watch Kurosawa's black-and-white era.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>If you don't give a fuck about that you are a tourist which again is fine but don't paint yourself as a devoted fan of her previous persona since you clearly don't give a fuck.
I'm just not mentally ill like you, I guess? What is your problem?

>>49479802
>I specifically cheat on every single loyal holo
jesas

>>49480159
shut up fag

>>49467587
>>49475022
These are literally the same opposing views otaku and wota(the dudes that like idols)/seiyuufags have. Liking content vs liking people that work on content.
A vtuber has a lot more control on how the content turns out, so it's indeed interesting following a vtuber's career to find similar stuff. Boy, I tell you that has not worked out for me sometimes. Environments matter, people change and so does their mental health based on their current success. Content between lives can vary very wildly.

>>49479802
>11 hr 54 min daily average

does anyone actually have a problem with korone? im so confused

>>49480363
This is what time off work looks like

>>49480621
Did you get fired for watching too much YouTube?

>>49480621
this is what my youtube stats look like when im binging library of leoturna stream edits

>>49467587
>You wouldn't simply watch a TV show if it completely changed to something else even if the actors were the same, would you?
I would for Gosling-san

>>49480747
Crazy Stupid Love fucking sucks

>>49480670
I wish, I've been watching the same way for 3 years and I still don't get to watch enough streams

>>49480241
Obsessing over people over characters is the exact parasocial bullshit you Twitter faggots harp on. Her whore model sucks, I don't want it on my screen

>>49480938
What constitutes enough for you?

>>49481154
Start with EN stream time because it's easier, also weekday.
11pm my time Fauna starts, will watch every second.
Then either Mumei or IRyS. There'll be a lull period where there is no JP streams and no EN streams I want to watch, can do other things then; it's around 5am-9am my time.
Then it's JP streams and if im lucky it stops around 7-8pm my time. Then there's a a lull period of 3-4 hours until the next fauna streams and again I can do other things in that time.
Weekends are different, if im lucky it's all day Hololive kino and I accidentally sleep and continue the kino until Monday.

>>49481011
Reading comprehension reps? I've literally said that liking people has bitten me in the ass before.
My opinion (real) is that you should always like content for the content itself, be sure to consider vtuber PLs as separate things if you want to explore. If you can't dissociate roommate from chuuba don't even bother, you will just ruin the image of the vtuber you like in your head (see how Coco is not seen as vtuber jesus anymore).
For me Henya is going to be difficult to watch not for the avatar itself but her environment (vshojo coworkers and audience + twitch)

>>49481434
No wonder Britain is fucked when slackers like you get paid to do nothing.

>>49481942
I just described an ideal scenario?

>>49473906
Sadly we live in a society where people will just become "lifelong fans" of the new team just because of that player joining the team.
Utterly Plastic behavior and don't think I don't see you there Lelbron fans. How many jerseys of his do you have in your closet or do you burn them in disgust only to buy the one he wears when he switches teams while eternally ring chasing...

>>49473972
Especially if he takes the money to go to your hated rival! Damn Yankees.

>>49481630
I misunderstood, my apologies

>>49480363
>> 11 hr 54 min daily average
That's nothing anon.

>>49482560
I haven't listened to much music or anything recently

>>49482672
None of that is from music. Just gotta watch more than one stream at a time.

>>49482758
let me preface this by saying im not a whore but I like to give my chuuba my full attention during streams

>>49474387
dem filters

>>49482940
I only do that for my kamioshi.
Outside of that I'll put on whatever looks interesting in the background.

>>49467587
There's no need to do so much mental gymnastics.
You just like to suck the cock of [Vtuber company] like a good braindead consoomer, that's it. It's ok to admit it.