/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

#’s iq is reclining.

Bae's PSYCHO is doing surprisingly good. 500k soon.

Looking at you, IRyS.

Ollie is the fauna of ID

I don't get you guys, Ollie is really polite and cute shy girl
Why were you all talking about her like she's ultra loud Mori?

After lurking on several threads related to tempus and NijiEN, I'm starting to believe that they are actually just the same peoples who usually falseflag as 35p and nousagi, the way they type words and using disgusting words like piss and whore is just looks the same

>GURA BOARD
>GURA THREAD

did the anon that said Ollie was crying for no reason saying the truth?

How many gifts did Zeta just get for 1k viewers?

>>49335112
She's been like that the whole stream, and apparently her chat poked her about it until she broke down.

>Luxiem Karaoke 2022 vs 2023 comparison

>>49335510
Where is gura's stream?

>>49335502
She is a massive retard, that is what she is.

>>49335506
Just like yours, sister.

>>49335528
She had a reason, her numbers, otherwise yes.

>>49335477
I remember she ranted at her indogs viewers before for not using English. She definitely didn't tell her viewers they are not her friends.

>>49335528
Yeah when I tuned in she was sniffling and the other two were comforting her and Sora was talking about her early days and how she didn't have that many fans n shit.
Ollie HAD been menheraing about not "communicating" for a while (saw some chat screenshots about it) so just tuned in out of curiousity.
I'll post a timestamp once it's done.
thankfully there's 2 POVs so she can't really private it

>>49335559
In less than 4 hours.

>>49335569
Tempiss sister spotted, go back to /MANS/ and never come back here.

>>49335555
Now show HoloEN comparison

>>49335555
Both streams got gold on that day right?

>>49335569

>>49334765
he is the biggest mikoschizo and shitpost against miko with subaru's number everyday (just like how we have peko vs miko now)
before miko inclined hard and he is forced to use pekora's number instead he even admitted that
you can easily dig thru the archive it's impossible to miss this guy posting style with keyword leech/piss/whore

>>49335472
How about you go look at your livers streams, sister, they could use a view.

>>49335631
I don’t even watch tempus nor nijien, unlike you.

>>49335612
>spoiler
are you sure about that?

Ollie, if only you had Unicorns and a strong parasocial chat who would never leave you and always fight for you...
But you had to suck homo and eceleb dick instead.
No sympathy or compassion from me.

>>49335472
If it keeps up this momentum, I can see it reaching 1 mil in little over a month

>>49335693
>livers
Not getting away with this one, saplingsister

>>49335674
Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be the minority than me.

>>49335756
Thing is that she has the right amount of menhera to foster some insane savior gachikois but every move she makes is for the benefit of other streamers and homos

>>49335555
vtubing is healing

>>49335162
>>49335205
>>49335543

so she's talking about rpr's pissing like a charge rifle with tokoyami tower but is quiet as a mouse when with sora? sasuga sora daisenpai

>>49335572
lol she cried about her numbers?
i can't.
maybe if she actually tried to being a CGDCT rather than a homo dick sucker maybe her numbers could have been kaela tier.
she could never be moona or kobo but she could have been better.

>>49335506
They are also super edgy if you haven't noticed. Like wishing death upon the Vtubers they hate super edgy. Reading through their posts is so sad and pathetic really. The worst thing any nijiCN Tempus anti could ever say is graduation baiting and some shit flinging. The worst thing a "sister" can say is some edgy garbage. If (You) are a sister that lurks the numberfag general thread, stop acting like edgy maggots. It's unbecoming. It's appalling. It's abhorrently pitiful. Improve (You)rselves

>>49335825
How so?

>49335804
>deflection when all else fails
Nijiniggers need newer tactics

>>49335802
Yeah. It was one of the better orisong that I've heard for vtubers, but personally I don't really like it. I am really surprised that it get views so fast. Even Kanata's Another World was struggling to get to 500k a few months ago, and I like that one a lot.

>>49335756
Most of the IDs don't have unicorns and none of them are as insecure as Ollie, sounds like an Ollie problem

>>49335860
It's funny because Bae for contrast, is very loose around Sora now although that wasn't the case for her initially either

>>49335869
>maybe if she actually tried to being a CGDCT rather than a homo dick sucker maybe her numbers could have been kaela tier
Reine is mostly CGDCT and she's doing even worse than Ollie, ID2 is just cursed for some reason

>>49335902
What's wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to call everyone "nijinigger" when there is even a little negative to say about holoEN? I merely say that IRyS need to step up her game and was praising Bae, you fucking doofus.

>>49335946
Reine has a very good excuse for her numbers, namely the spam of VNs

>>49335869
maybe she is in debt with cover and cover is forcing her to pay doing stuff she doesn't want

>>49335919
Ollie is really the only one who mingled with the Twitch scene regularly and at one point was the most popular girl in the branch only to get dumped when they got tired of her.

>>49335919
none of the other ID's have sucked as much homo and eceleb dick as her though, not even Kobo

>>49335634
Like this?

>>49335896
By skin colour

>>49335884
I cringe a little every time I see someone use 'tempiss' or 'tempoop'

like cmon man, are you 8 or something?

>>49335902
It's only niji when it's critique against IRyS, zero defense whatsoever when the sisters are making up shit about Bae, I like your double standards

https://youtu.be/BUuc4t4nNqo?t=7
> I think girls holding hands and quitting together is the best way to tell the company that you guys should do better
> don't you think?
she tried to do this with Holos and failed didn't she...
> So VShojo noticed "looks like there's another company, or maybe not, but we're not doing better"
Is she talking about Mythic or something here?
> So VShojo realized that right now they aren't doing better
> Because my contract got better
Fucking kek she screwed over the other 3 and got herself a better deal out of it as well. Positively evil.

>not even Kobo
you're wrong, you just don't understand indonesia enough

>>49335911
It's pretty good, what's important is that it keeps up this momentum of 35k+ views per day, there hasn't been any significant drop off in daily views yet so it's certainly possible

>>49335933
but also wtf
>>49335543
>and apparently her chat poked her about it until she broke down.

Vox karaoke 1 year ago: 60k
Vox karaoke today: 8k

>>49336116
>>49336003

>>49335710
> privating Sora's stream due to her own menhera
yeah she's gonna get eviscerated if that happens

>>49336037
>Tempiss = Tempus 1
>Tempoop = Tempus 2
It really fits. Doesn't it?

>>49336003
Kobo has interacted with far more e-celebs than Ollie.

>>49336157
Who gets the cripple gold today?

>>49336069
>Tried to turn the thread into IRyS vs Bae
>Tried to drag sapling into it when people called you out
>The kind of Holo vs Holo "topic" surprisingly (or not) mainly pop up when Niji either underperformed or had a yab
Hmm. Maybe try to time your bait better next time, like when Niji isn't underperforming for example, sis.

I fucking hate you guys so much holy shit

>>49335622
That's Kiara's stream ft. Gura. Also projects doko? Second orisong doko?

>>49336216
The feeling's mutual anon, don't worry.

>>49336116
Her CCV is dwindling but her female viewership increased and her music inclined, might be related to each other

>>49336216
that's how you know we are your friends

>>49336223
soon tm

>>49336115
>she tried to do this with Holos and failed didn't she...
To be fair, she was pretty friendly towards Hololive / Cover for months. Can't be sure if she still feels the same now, but I doubt she tried to sabotage them when they quit.

>>49336125
Maybe it is my personal bias but I don't really like it when a singer use their "talking voice" to sing. I like it when they can sing "with their lungs" so to speak.

500k now by the way.

>>49336189
indogs are still salty about ollie's rant about speaking english on stream

>>49336208
Vox, who got less viewers on an unarchived karaoke than Bae did on archived karaoke, in roughly same timeslot
So yeah, he won, but at what cost...?

>>49336281
we are not friends

>>49336189
Isn't Kobo's numbers in the shitter as well? I think she is still strong but can get beat by Kaela playing Minecraft.

>>49336208
Hope he spamming Karaoke everyday

>>49336302
>but I doubt she tried to sabotage them when they quit
Would she really see it as sabotage though? She might have believed that she was saving them from corporate dictatorship or whatever the fuck she keeps preaching about

>>49336302
Technically she dragged 6 other hololive members and forced them to graduate.

>>49336311
Yeah I just checked, 500k in a little over 8 days is pretty neat

>>49336216
Here anon. have this to cheer you up.

so which NIJIboys can still get good numbers on karaoke? only Ike?

>>49336339
I think he is mentally more stable now than before. Since no one post about his most recent ASMR I assume he is not doing blowjob ASMR anymore.

>>49336329
manufactured drama by sisters, just like Fauna the last few days

>>49336329
ollie is to naive and gullible, and i know that's bad for my heart so i keep some space from her

>>49336115
>clip from literally more than 1 week ago
anon, are you ok?

>>49335946
>holoINDONESIA
>hard pander to non-indos
>terrible numbers
It's not that deep, but it's curious how every ID2 member is culprit of this

>>49335860
"When everyones in front of me, they kneel" - Sora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRExY61UXA

>>49336419
Enna

>>49336216
Hey, don't need to hate other anons just because your oshi can't be your friend.

>>49336392
CURSE YOU HOLOBRONIES

>>49336003
lol, Kobo is literally in a discord server exclusively for indog e-celeb circle and played with them many time off-stream like on this one particular tweet

>>49336392
this is what en3 copers want lol

>>49336478
Enna is not a boy. She is my wife.

>>49336460
He stopped being a numberfag?
Well, Good for him

>>49336516 (me)
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1579820926543089664
somehow my retarded brain forgot to paste the link

>>49336516
you mean the time with the girl from JKT48?

>>49336003
Kobo's fans specifically want her to collab with ID e-celebs. Ollie was collabing with western e-celebs.

>>49336311
I'm not even sure if all holos can produce a proper singing voice, not with the amount of vocal training they do.

>>49336573
Yeah very few can. Which is why there are very orisongs that fits my taste too.

>>49336339
huh? you sure about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQjF_27oG3U

>>49336516
Kobo is the ID Laplus and they act pretty much the same

>>49336361
>Minecraft
The biggest buff game. Kaela never reaches those numbers if she plays a different game

>>49336516
We call them e-celebs but most of them are 2view fleshstreamers who has zero benefit to Kobo

>>49336642
I'm also a music snob but mostly about the music itself, I recognise that a good track can carry a poor singer so the girls being amateurs doesn't bother me.

>>49336015
NOT THAT ONE! PLEASE DELETE!

show Gura where she goes 110k to 30-40k in a span of 2 years, which is still 10x better than Luxiem. I wonder what Luxiem karaokes will be in that same time frame KEK

>>49336653
>Kiara
>Gura post-no streams drama
>expecting chumbuds to watch Gura outside her channel

>>49336762
I mean that IS a pretty huge dropoff

>>49335470
It was always 0 although i would like to say it's going in negative it is kind of physically impossible

>>49336653
vox counts for the 13th doesn't it?

>>49336216
Likewise even before you posted

>>49336726
Yeah, it can be true most of the time. Even the vsinger I like the most can't get good orisong every time.

En reclined hard
Are they really going to release a nee gen when their current roster is in a hard recline?
Even twitch whores are beating them nowadays

>>49336653
That's for the next day anon

>>49335993
What would she be in debt for?? She hasn't done shit?

>>49335528
Ollie noooo, you can still do it. You'll get more chances to shine. Just be our cute girl and eschew the vile males.

>>49336886
Let's be honest there are very few westerners understands what really is like being a vtuber. They cannot keep their kayfabe up. The only ones that I know from HoloEN that can keep them up are Kiara and IRyS only.

>>49336934
Maybe the apex merch hasn't sold Well?

>>49336709
>suckin multiple 2-view dick to meet your idol
it's worth it

>>49336934
maybe cover pays worse than anycolor

>>49336479
she might actually be a shareholder since she's almost a founding member, effectively their boss

>>49336988
Me on the far right

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQjF_27oG3U
10k+ , possible or impossible?

>>49335946
Reine is rich, what does she care if she's dipping into 3view status?

Will Ollie get saved by the usual crowd now that she cried about her numbers ?

>>49335528
>No reason
She was bitching about numbers to Sora of all people

>>49337103
bout 10-15k

>>49337108
why saviorfag one with 1k ccv when you can saviorfag a chuuba with 10 ccv

>>49336988
I skimmed through the vod and realized that the guy on the right is not even a part of the collab, it's literally a picture of a random brown guy

New youtube feature, how is it going to affect numbers?

>>49334983
>>49334968
>>49334704
>>49334806
This is why I hate ollie. She wants to wall herself and most of id off because she likes the homos. She deserves to be a failure. Bae is a bigger fan of the homos than she is of the holos but she doesn’t push that hard but despite being a bigger fan of holo she keeps pushing the homos.

Ollie would fit better as a failing indie

>>49337108
It's Literally "rich girl problem" to all non holo watchers

>>49337185
WAA WAA SHE RECLINED BECAUSE OF HOMOS

>>49337108
She filtered the ID fags who she called out for not learning English after demanding her to stream more in Indonesian and EOP tourists are already bored of her and will never come nack

>>49337233
>nack
nro...

>>49335472
Except it’s doing alright at best. Good is 1 million in 14 days or below while great i under 3 days

>>49337222
In this case it is actually true, if you are with shitters who can't get viewership for shit you are going to recline

>>49337158
that's the meta to get numbers in indogland

>>49337270
Kek fuck you anon

Seems like my existence is causing some controversy again.

>>49337185
>Bae is a bigger fan of the homos than she is of the holos
I'm not so sure about that anymore, maybe near debut

>>49337222
Nah, she reclined because of e-celebs and her disregards of the box. Homos are just a small part of the issue.

>>49337233
Yeah that rant was incredibly stupid it was pretty apparent she wanted to be a quasi EN member

>>49337296
>if you are with shitters who can't get viewership for shit
then you mean she reclined because she did collabs with those who id chuubas that have less than 500 ccv? thanks bro, that helps

>>49337233
Ollie's greatest miscalculation was pandering to EOPs right before Cover debuted more actual holoEN girls.

>>49337318
They want you back after neglecting and losing you

>>49337233
Skill issue. Should've debuted with Kobo

>Ollie is now nijisisters' target of the day
Imagine targeting someone as sweet as her. Fucking spineless cowards

>everything somewhat died down last night before I went to bed
>open up the archive
>it got worse
I don't even know what to say anymore. I hate this.

>>49337275
Other than Suisei and Mori, does anyone have orisongs that get to 1 million in 2 weeks?

>>49336988
Huh didn't know those shitpost images were templates outside here

>>49337377
oh no, she lost 50 viewers because she enraged the unicorns due to collabing with males, what is she gonna do?!!!

>>49336809
and you think that 119k karaoke is her usual CCV for karaokes two years ago? These are Gura's karaoke from first to last (left to right), that 119k was a one-time thing with debut buff. Even her karaokes before and after that 119k is in the same CCVs as Luxiem's karaoke just one year ago. Can any Luxiem karaoke break 30k nowadays? Two years from now, same as Gura, I wonder what their numbers would look like KEK

>>49337437
>Ollie
>sweet
towards who?

>>49337377
sorry Ollie but when the metaphorical hymen is gone, so am I

>>49337490
Everyone? Ollie's main flaw is that she's friendly to a fault.

>>49337490
everyone except idfags that won't learn english

>>49337535
Not to her audience kek

>>49337178
what video is that?

>>49337445
I like this. You need to see the truth instead of hiding behind the copes too.

[Sad News] Ollie and Kanata had to sleep together in order to bring Sora into thew world

>>49337437
vt has always hated the retarded zombie though?

>>49337643
>Sleeping with a corpse
Disgusting

>>49337657
>vt is full of flips
>flips hate the indo chuuba
i guess so

>>49335528
No hate for her but
Why she numberfagging when Anya and iofi have smaller number compare to her?
Both of them didn't even mentioned number even once

>>49337643
just this once sora-anon, i don't want to know about sora's stream updates.

Sugoi

Sora 10k, but too late for the tally?

>>49337535
her fault is ignoring what her fans want and tried to flaunt her "celeb" status and collabed with everyone, becoming a fucking collab baby.
on top of that, she always tried to collab with every single male around the sun.
you can say it's due to her being "friendly to a fault"
but she wouldn't act the same way towards her fans.
i can bet my ass on it.

>>49337713
>ollie
ruined

>>49337707
What you don't want to hear about Kanata getting beaten up by a black man despite her screaming for mercy?

>>49337607
The only one here coping is you. Most people didn't care and even worse most people are pretending to care about someone they didn't watch and pretending to care about a fanbase. All those "muh immersion" posts are pure bullshit because if it mattered to them they wouldn't be bitching about it for days on end. They'd just stop watching her. But that also requires them to watch her in the first place.

>>49337698
flips are literally where most of ollie's twitter supporter gang comes from.

>>49337787
Its 1:17am JST so yeah...
tallyanon never gave Flare an inch back when she hit 10k after 12mn

>>49337700
imagine it's because she wants to collab with a certain e-celeb but she got told she doesn't have enough numbers to warrant a collab

>>49335502
You find her in every vtuber indie or corpo around and before people realized you couldn’t reach the real prize behind her you could find her with regular streamers. She’s far from shy and more people find her annoying than cute. Mori’s fame came off of myth/hololive but she also “helped” it. Ollie has done nothing but push homos and clout chasers

>>49336216
what's all 'is then?

>>49336653
Yuro time, it might not even break 10k

>>49337873
retard, it's because sponsorships

>>49336886
I wonder where EN vtubing would be today if Luxium never debut? If Nijisanji nor Cover debuted any male vtubers altogether? Would it be better? Worse? The same?

>>49337836
No wonder why her fanbase sucks

>>49337938
...no way that's true.
when iofi and fucking anya can get sponsors.

>>49336516
Thing about Kobo is that she doesn't do this shit out of malice, and mostly does it with people that are literal whos outside of SEA, so there's far less seethe.
Ollie was sucking up to every single western irony poisoned eceleb that didn't understand Hololive's appeal and would reshape it according to their ideals.

>>49337535
She's also dumb, anon. Who would in their right mind want to do an apex tourney for Hololive when all of the members dosn't want to play apex?

Pekora BTFO

>>49337938
Qrd? Is it the World of Warships one? She jelly of that? Kek.

>>49337603
Not chuuba-related, I wonder if it needs to be activated on the creator's side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXg_Ml6xJGU

>>49337885
You mean pushing unity. She just really loves Holopro as a whole and wants everyone to be successful, how can you dislike that?

>>49338049
that's collab, not sponsor, retard

>>49337938
Anya just got danmachi gacha game sponsor
so sponsorship should not be the issue

>>49338017
>Ollie was sucking up to every single western irony poisoned eceleb that didn't understand Hololive's appeal and would reshape it according to their ideals.
which she actually did intentionally and maliciously as she proudly proclaimed around debut when she talked about changing hololive culture

>>49337178
It won't, but just wait until Youtube blanket implements the new layout. Shit's horrible.

>>49337454
Gura, Marine, Korone, Kobo, Okayu, Mumei, Ayame

>>49338073
That's even worse then and you can't make the excuse that she'll be a filter because of her screeching because Kiara is there

>>49337700
I don't know about Anya, but Iofi talked about how her channel is about to turn into a dead channel

>>49338093
that's the thing, she doesn't know whats wrong, because even her tickets of the id cafe sold out before most of them

>>49337178
It's some random shit, difference is mid outsdie of really busy scenes but what gets it seems pretty random, I seen VODs of lives getting it for example

>>49337178
>>49338051
bro it looks the same on my end
is this a scam to get more yt premium users?

>>49338068
Surely easy enough to dislike if you dislike particular elements of "Holopro"?

>>49338174
Source?

>>49338017
Does Ollie show malice though? Did she have an "improve yourself" moment? I've never seen it, might just be because she's not popular enough.

>>49338174
graduation?

>>49338051
i have youtube premium and the option don't show up on my end?, is it region specific i wonder?

>>49338174
source and qrd?

>>49338199
Do you dislike all of JP for liking Mori?

>>49338232
She shit on indos for wanting her to speak more indo

>>49338174
What has Iofi done to not kill her channel?

>>49338174
>about to

If ollie was smart, she shouldve made math and chess her niche a long time ago, study maths and chesss on stream then go for a masters while streaming. After graduating, she can go fo a phd in maths and become a respected professor in maths in ID.
>sudoku
>2048
>monopoly
>IQ games
There's literally a lot of games she couldve played and be a smart holo which is ironic with her zombie character

>>49338232
>Does Ollie show malice though?
No, that much is obvious if you watched even a single stream of her and anyone saying otherwise is a raging retard

>>49337700
She used to be big while her branch were almost always small. All her pushing for homos used to be laughed off as the vtuber simp super funny then it started to be perceived as malicious because of tempiss. She’s making id collab with males, she poisoned en with bae, she tried to ruin the id server trying to link up with homos, she tried to trick jp with that apex collab and shit like that.

Some retard will say actually bae was like that off debut as if every new en or council fan will watch their old debuts.

>>49338232
she literally said she wants to change hololive culture, implying the culture up to that point was not the one she supported, therefore bad

>>49338274
I don't personally dislike Ollie, I'm just helping you with a concept you were struggling with.

>>49337830
The fact that you know what I am talking about means that it deeply affected you. Just be honest with yourself. If more of you are honest about what you feel instead of deflecting and coping, this shit would probably be gone in just 1 day.

>>49338232
Try to watch this, anon.
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM

>>49338331
That's not Malice that's just being a fucking retard and she's fallen in line since.

>>49337454
are you a newfag?
>2 weeks
Gura one and only ori song break 1m in 10hrs

>>49338303
holy shit i forgot about ollie's math streams. That was pretty kino. She should've continued and get some excuse to collab with gura that way, what a waste.

>>49338361
She's just shitting on indogs there? That's based

>>49338303
why math and chess specifically?
is she good at both?

>>49338232
Just the learn English rant which every ID anti(especially Niji ID fans) reference on now HoloID is anti Indonesian where they would rather be an English streamer and are not proud to be one till Kobo that is

>>49338182
Ouch then
But create more yab/drama certainly won't make her popular
Good luck to her though, hope everything work out for her
She seems sweet and nice so i don't relly hate her (but her constant eceleb collab filter me)

>>49338261
>>49338187
It's probably in the A/B testing phase

>>49338335
I wasn't the anon you are replying to anon, the example you used only applies to bottom feeders and is mostly used by antis

>homocollaber constantly trying to turn Hololive into a Vshojo and NijiEN rape baby
>numberfag, having a numberfag breakdown in front of Sora of all people
jeesas Ollie is truly irredeemable

>>49338359
I know what you're talking about because there's only one guy who would, and has been, complaining about the archive. Maybe if you fucking lurked more you'd know too you retarded faggot.

>>49338110
>Gura
Reflect
>Marine
Aitore
>Korone
God Doggo Street?
>Kobo
Mantra Hujan
>Okayu
???
>Mumei
???
>Ayame
???

>>49335502
what exactly has Ollie contributed towards the hololive ecosystem?

was this already mentioned? the list of literal whos for that one beggar expo

>>49337437
>Using Gura pic
Gura doesn’t like Ollie either tho….

>>49338408
Shitting on indogs because they want her to speak more indonesian? Yes.

>>49338410
Her chess streams had her getting pretty good, she was also doing shit like go stream with that one female grand master or some shit

Did Sora change her voice at some point like Suisei?

>>49338275
I don't think she even phrase it like that. She just tell her viewers that don't type IDs in chat because non-ID don't understand them. She also said she speaks English because more people would understand her if she speaks English than ID.

>>49338512
Don't think so, Victor wouldn't let her.

>>49338463
Does this count as doxxing? Kek

>>49338218
>>49338269
It's in Indonesian but she's basically saying that her channel is dying and she's trying to release shorts to keep it alive
https://youtu.be/k7KLN9YRg0k

How can anybody here expect en3 to be good when everyone outside of hololive in the western scene is considered bad here at the same time.

>>49338464
She made that one really cool orisong medley, performed well on holofes, did some fun stuffs with Sora in minecraft and probably more shit that relates to ID that I don't know about since I don't watch ID

>>49335502
she's wasting the time of her senpais
she's crying about numbers to fucking Sora
imagine being sad that you only get 500+ viewers and crying about it to someone who started with 50 viewers.
Boo fucking hoo bitch.

>>49338463
jesus, all those small corpos, indies
and then there's nijiEN...

>>49338564
i understand indonesia
so no problem for me
Thanks for the source

>>49338318
Doesn’t matter if people perceive it as malicious when they thought she was doing a forced holopro apex collab. Also watching one stream means she’s done nothing bad is a retarded thing to say

>>49338303
That would not have made her interesting or helped her to keep numbers.

>>49338477
Yes, indonesian is a disgusting language and the world would be better off if nobody spoke it

>>49338512
Yes. Her voice in the begining is different from today.
She grew out of the JK voice into this natural voice.
Not for medical reasons though.

>>49338553
Don't think so, he's also a fan of the literal whos.
https://youtu.be/eEG2I9U3IHk?t=872

>>49338588
Eh, I wouldn't be opposed if they managed to get someone consistent. There are some hidden gems in the whore pool, but it'd be hard to filter the antiloli retards and the actual bitches.

>>49338588
hire fans of hololive.

>>49338464
An example. Of what not to do if you don't want to fall from grace after being top dog, albeit a bad one as laplus didn't learn shit. Zoomers.

>>49338564
Shorts will not save her, they're only good for subs but subs are fucking worthless to a streamer. She needs active, engaged viewers to revive her CCV/vod views/memberships/merch sales and shorts won't do that.

>>49338553
if the jannies want to

>>49338463
I recognize 95% of this list im not sure if thats good or bad.

>>49338588
Hololive don't always recruit from the "scene".

>>49338463
Shylily is the biggest guest here

>>49338512
Her voice has changed for the same reason that Shion's has.

>>49338716
wouldn't that be selen?

Ollie you just have to look at Kanatan…. If only you nurtured the Unicorns then you would have an army of fans ready defend you at all cost. Those shit stirrers arent your fans, there isn’t a reason to pander to them

>>49338716
<3

>>49338464
She got fingered live on stream, which is cool. I can actually say I heard a Hololive girl get fingered on stream because she exists.

>>49338463
>Professor Lando
So he chose the DD route, huh?

who won gold today?

>>49338463
Whomst

>>49338068
she's pushing "unity" with every faggot out there including Trash Taste

>>49335555
Can nijisisters still deny it was bots? Because otherwise it means he lost the majority of his fanbase which is also grim.

>>49336037
We call them both as Temflops

>>49336565
Yes kobo is id mori except id management doesn’t have it’s head up it’s ass and told her keep it to herself. Kobos in one, mori, i believe towa, and astel are all in one.

>>49338588
Hire people who are outside of but know about streamers.

>>49338463
I wouldnt call it literal whos, since outside Holos these ARE the biggest vtubers

>>49338760
Phase invaders 2

>>49338330
>Poisoned EN with Bae
The fuck are you on about? Bae only does the little amount of collabs with homos that she does for herself. She makes sure to separate both contents too. You sound like a fanfic writer

>>49338753

>>49338748
Wouldn't blame him. HomoEN isn't as secure as being in Hololive.

>>49338588
>western scene
I know it's unrealistic, but they should be going after people who don't have western scene baggage. Easier to teach the technical side of streaming to someone with the right mindset than trying to get a twitch retard to change their ways.

>>49338376
>she's fallen in line since
she tried to do a homo bait and switch tournament just a few months ago

>>49338748
I unironically think he has a much higher ceiling as Lando to be fair.

>>49338588
Myth
>a memester that attracts people from all walks of life
>a workaholic with multiple paid concerts and good orisongs under her belt
>a failed idol that turned successful representing dream comes true
>a witty gremlin that is great with behind the scene's stuff and acts as a glue for the group
>an inoffensive mascot who is also hard working

Council
>chink game lover
>whore
>whore
>wanna-be whore
>aussie

EN3 can only get worse.

>>49338446
Aitore did hit 1M before 2 weeks, but her fastest song is Set Sail, Kobo's is Oh! Asmara, Okayu's is Mogu Mogu, Mumei's is A New Start, and Ayame's is her first orisong that I never actually heard the name of.

>>49338737
Do you have comparisons for Shion's voice?

>>49338839
>homo bait and switch tournament
People would not have signed up if that was the case.

>>49338794
I wwould laugh my ass off if one of them would be one the vtubers that based themselves on Pippa's Vtubing agency

>>49338588
Just because the shit ones are brought up here the most doesn't mean there aren't some out there with potentional

>>49338588
>How can anybody here expect en3 to be good
I don't. I think that if it happens, it's going to suck.

>>49338463
Why are the corpo and indie order all over the place? It goes:
>vshoujo-nijien-phase-indie-kawaii-indie-idol-indie-mythic-fleshtuber.
It makes me furious

>>49338588
Environment can pull them around. You think the majority of holomen would act the same if they weren't holos?

>>49338805
I bet he's a hooman who thinks Mumei was dragged

>>49338796
>>49338716

>>49338463
Whatever happened to the male vtubers?

>>49338823
>technical side
Koro's debut was a shitshow. Even during her beginning it was hard. Only luck and a bit of effort saved her.
>trying to get a twitch retard to change their ways
That's why I said to filter the bitches. The whores, as long as they don't have other baggage, can be converted, but you have to really filter the bitches.

>>49337454
>1m in 2 weeks
Picrel is outdated and both has ori and covers, but it's only list I found on Leddit. For ori songs, it's...
>gura
>marine
>mori
>La+
>suisei
>ina
>okayu
>chama - yeah (??? wtf is that?)

>>49338737
dicks in her throat?

>>49335919
>Most of the ids don’t have unicorns
Only branch that’s showed continuous recline by talking with males. Kobo their first star is barely doing as good as mori now only she doesn’t get supers, doesn’t sell out much merch, and her average ccv is the price of an expensive candy bar. Right the muslim country is anti unicorn

>>49336037
just wait for Tempuke sister

>>49338764
Kek, well then Ollie deserves every single one of the fans she courted who'd only watch clips and argue with you here about le bad tribalists and nothing else.

>>49338934
They're the beggar expo, of course they only want big numbers, not to actually "help" 1 and 2views.

>>49338361
>>49338418
Well fuck I don't take offense to that I'm not an indo. I assumed she was the worst of the worst homo collabers with all the antis she gets...

going to listen to mel's ASMR while jerking off to her lewds

>>49338740
Her ccv is shit and she has no viral clips outside the NijiEN bubble.

>>49338068
I don't mind her love for the entirety of the company, amd I do think she's sweet (but dumb), I just disapprove of her trying to get every holo on board.
She can collab with both holos and stars, like Sora. Just don't drag non-collabers into it.

>>49338934
No one watches them.

>>49338848
Lmao no, HomoEN is the best he can get.

>>49338944
chama is cover

>>49338463
>vshojo nijien phase idolen
Basically all the largest corpo groups minus holoen then topped off with a mixed bag of big indies like shy fil and co then a few smaller indies sprinkled in. Pretty sure this is most of the relevant EN scene besides nyanners and vei as notable big ones missing.

>>49339016
...that's not what i meant

>>49338512
Her voice changed as she grew up, obviously

>>49339016
It was a fat joke, tism-kun.

>>49338169
Kiara doesn't really screech though?

>>49339004
>she was the worst of the worst homo collabers
Holy fuck, read the replies to your post.
>pushes "unity" with EVERYONE
>tried to court anitubers (still tries, they just don't reply to her)
>tried to do a bait and switch tournament, and had to clarify that it was 3 separate ones later

>>49338588
A healthy starting point is to think they will be dog shit. Then they can only improve going forward.

But with the expectations some seem to have for EN3 it will just become a flop.

>>49338588
Because Covers whole thing is hiring literal whos and polishing them into being superstars

>>49338818
>>49338848
If that's the case, then he doesn't need to renew his contract with HomostarsEN. There's no point in continuing his career there.

>>49338944
This is a 7 months outdated spreadsheet of every song that hit 1M within a month
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRve9H7kspxpEZI51og3SckXn_dgPbyx7fDjbh_TePPrnBM7p1rWbV9rtlJdru3E1nmbjCXPD1t-tjP/pubhtml?gid=1342168085&single=true

>>49338764
>Sweet, naive kid wants everyone on earth to get along.
Tale as old as time.

>>49339109
>still tries, they just don't reply to her
God that's so cathartic, she finally gets to realize that they never liked her at all to begin with.

>larp as a whore / homoenabler fan
>"she's so sweet guys no one actually hates her"
>get called out
>post replies on twitter for muh /vt/ bad boogeyman
This bait is so basic that's probably pinned in their discord as a FAQ

>>49339071
>>49339091
I haven't seen a fat Selen joke in a while, thanks, it flew over my head

you know, Azki probably could've been successful if she'd focused on streams. she's pretty skilled at "cute".

>Why no EN3?
Hololive is no longer the only option for aspiring chuubas. Coomerbaiting alone can get you a good income as an indie. With that being said, how many women do you guys think exist in the West that understand and want to be a part of idol culture? Probably 0. Maybe in the future, a few will pop up, but right now? 0.

Zeta is getting more membership gifts than she has viewers

>>49338699
Tell that to Cover subs is everything they seem to care about

>>49338463
i thought at least shoto would be there.

>>49338864
https://youtu.be/x_HQ6XlAPtA
Compare this to any recent stream.
Her screams haven't changed lol

>>49339205
>she's pretty skilled at "cute"
Japanese women just seem to pull it off so effortlessly, it's like they all have geisha blood or something

>shiting on ollie
really?
can we get much lower?

>>49339216
lol

>>49339109
>tried to court anitubers (still tries, they just don't reply to her)
Proofs? I believe you but I don't wanna dig through trash taste tweets

>>49338805
Is Bae... the Towa... of EN?

>>49338925
Which is a dumb cope. She tried one collab and decided they weren't for her.

>>49339205
azki didn't become successful because she did collab with males

>>49338699
>revive
Iofi has been the least successful Hololive member ever since she debuted and that never changed, it's probably not going to change any time soon

>>49339234
UOH

who won gold today?

>>49339255
What, you don't like the scenario where subhumans gang up on somewhat disliked holo in hopes of there not being anyone present being able or willing to call out their blatant lies?

>>49338872
define "bait and switch" anon

>>49339272
NTA but I always thought her approach regarding homos is more similar to Fubuki

>>49339255
We're bored of Tempiss so we're punching up

>>49338968
If it's continuous recline why are they doing better than they were back in 2021

>>49338944
>>49339143
can Gura's second single be able to break Reflect??? She has one for her birthday, I saw it in a dream

>>49338564
Is this why she started spamming buff content?

>>49339269
Last part is just the voices in my head. She did do collabs with TT and the like at the beginning until suddenly she didn't.

>>49337938
any clips or timestamps ?

>rewatching Fauna's pro gymnast sim stream because she's very good at entertaining the audience and giving them a good time :)

>>49339321
>>49338810

>>49339326
If it was actually a switch people would've 100% backed out.
>But she then changed it to be separated!
As if that wasn't the intention from the start. You think with all her talks with management to set it up in the first fucking place they'd allow her to fucking lie to the other girls?

>>49339234
Damm Shion sounds different. Her current voice is still like a brat though.

>>49339255
>le “improve yourself Hololive!” Chuuba
I’ve always shitted on her since the moment she said she wanted to change Hololive’s culture

>>49338856
Kys mythfag

[Sad News] Kanata is griefing Iofi's tree

>>49339380
>she said she wanted to change Hololive’s culture
proof?

>>49339234
Shion is becoming too old now...

>>49339342
Her second one will the stream's anime OP.

>>49338856
>Council
>Actually friends who try and get involved with each other as much as possible

>Myth
>Lonely autists who are awkward around each other even 2 years in

>>49339383
I still think Myth is boring but compared to Council, damn Myth sure is more entertaining than them without a doubt.

>>49339377
Well, yeah. She's only 20 now.

>>49339349
>Melatonin
>NijiID collab
>buff content

>>49339326
anon sucks and decided to use a word he doesn't know what it means

>>49339216
>good income as an indie
good income still lose to set for life income. Even an EN runt like Bae still has 400k of SCs, probably sell 150-200k of merch at least twice a year (birthday and anniv), probably has 3-4k of YT membership, averages 3-5m of YT views per month, and the most important thing of all, build your own brand. Every one in HoloEN is set for life post-Hololive

>>49339433
roru
myth are autists, but they tried with that one full off collab
guess the results?

>>49339349
AAAAAAA 3 SOON BE DEAD CHUBA

>>49339430
>20
>too old
Why don't you take a seat? I'll just make a quick call.

>>49339303
I'm being charitable in response to Iofi's own wording, she considered her channel to have been alive at one point.

>>49339433
>Lonely autists being better at entertaining than complete normies
Who could have seen that one coming?

>>49339359
just a guess

>>49339430
>Shion is becoming too old
based lolichad

>>49339439
How can myth be more entertaining when they don't even stream? Stop living in 2020.

>>49339355
Because those faggots moved on to a new grift

>>49338174
I don't think her channel is doing worse than it did previously, granted it doesn't seem to grow either and she never really tried to do anything about this as far as I can tell.

>>49339323
I agree in the truth of your post that non-subhuman watchers like you don't have time to watch or be part of her active community nor donate mayb buy he cheapest merch or two. She deserves you for her failing channel, while you defend her dignity on a Mongolian weaving basket against subhuman fans.

oh yeah...
when is NijiID graduation streams?

Zeta is asking whether the emote cap also gets raised with gifted memberships or just regular ones. Anyone know?

>>49339430
based, you can fuck off, i will love her even more in 15 more years

>>49339554
Yeah, but she still thinks she has a chance, she's still a "UNITY"fag at heart, with her "changing hololive culture" bullshit.

>>49338463
Tempiss sisters? Explain?

>>49339624
I do

>>49339109
Yeah but it seems entirely plausible to me that she did those things out of naivity rather than malice. It's not at all conparable to Kronii and Ame that basically said outright they hate their fans.

>>49339439
only Gura is more entertaining than Council, Fauna, Mumei, and Bae beats the rest of the 4, Kronii is not even worth mentioning. Her solo streams are snoozers, but she's great with collabs.

>>49336886
since when did fagni dip into 3view range?

>>49335946
>Mostly
It’s all or nothing

>>49339551
Streaming =/= entertaining. If you want more streams go and watch nijiEN, nijinigger.

>>49339607
in 5min will be today

>>49339672
>out of naivity rather than malice
I could believe that if not for her "I want to change hololive culture" slip.

>>49339607
- ZEA: May 14th
- Taka: May 28th
- Siska: June 15th
- Cia: July 16th

>>49339695
Kiara is more entertaining that any of the Council even with her jrpg runs.

>>49339672
Amelia likes her yesfans just not the unikeks who tried to control her.

>>49339711
I think all the tempiss homos have had 3view streams at this point, they're unironically dead

>>49339780
>jrpg runs
Interesting? Maybe. Entertaining? Nah.

>>49335986
Attack a holo member by praising another for doing mildly well. Don’t see a problem at all?

No matter how long I watch this contrast doesn't stop being amusing

Oh god, this got recommended to me
https://youtu.be/5Vi2LIiojAU
The comments though, why do spics love fatties, hags and roasties so much?

Since we're in a loop again I will point out that Ame was never an entertaining streamer by herself and she has the most misleading sub count in all of Hololive.

.

>>49339530
Maybe you're right, She probably farming Sora points to get sponsorship

>>49338330
I remember she organized BAE collabs with Roberu, Bae was kinda awkward about it.

>>49339770
I wonder if ZEA would make it in ID4, she seems to have ambition and drive when I watched her several times a year or so ago.

I didn't know there were so many indogs in the numbers thread. That's pretty funny

>>49339842
It's the only thing >we have here, so the standards are pretty low. Besides, I don't think being loved by spics is a point in favor, anon.

>>49339846
Only Kiara and IRyS fit the bill now.

>>49339843
This but all of myth

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>58,589: Mel (Hololive)
>47,565: Miko (Hololive)
>44,487: NeruMero (Indie)
>43,821: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,294: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,361: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,767: Toya (Nijisanji)
>23,317: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,238: Ito Life (Indie)
>18,050: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,150: Flare (Hololive)
>16,441: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,987: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,197: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,361: Nui (Nijisanji)
>13,419: Nene (Hololive)
>13,103: Botan (Hololive)
>12,206: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,983: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,668: Mio (Hololive)
>10,925: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,915: Kizuku (Nijisanji)
>10,726: Nozomi (Nijisanji)
>10,648: Noel (Hololive)
>10,511: Lui (Hololive)
>10,262: Fubuki (Hololive)

Gold for Mel in a kinpatsu filled live, one with her second highest CCV (beating the Halloween massacre live by 120), and with a surprise horse race for silver, with Miko overpowering a buffed NeruMero (and both pushing Kuzuha out of the podium)

>>49339862
Oh God no please
/warkop/ went to shit immediately after someone post that

[Sad News] Kanata is a bad influence on Ollie and Sora making them steal elytras from Kaela's old stash

>>49338463
Offkai??? KEK. Here's the Twitter numbers for MomoCon, Vshojo mindshare... Hello??? Imagine losing to Tempiss HAHAHA

>>49339898
SEA hours. Also when you see EN discussion during primtetime they are mostly indogs too. They can't enjoy JP streams.

>>49339898
t. flipchad

Sometimes I wonder if Holomems also used ads for their cover/ori songs how much more views would they have..

>>49339780
Are you lost?

>>49339862
already collab with some of HoloID,nah nepohire look to strong
>>49339770(me)
pic number from last graduation

>>49339908
But I heard spics are second only to the frenchies when it comes to love?

>>49339995
I actually got ads for one of Shion songs
Was that not done by Cover?

>>49339955
Sadly there are no lewds of Mel

>>49339969
>liking the Kronii post
kys

>>49339737
Retard

>>49338463
What happened to that ironic weeb expo in gaylord anyway?

i made the mistake to watch a competent zelda runner play through totk no...

>>49336115
>Vshojo really feels kson is there number 1 or 2 talent
>She’s a professional shill
>She’s also a snake.
For her talk of quitting together she used them to make her contract better. At best she took advantage of a good situation at worst she’s the one that put it in their heads that they’re being ripped off. That other anon could actually have been right

>>49340077
nope, Cover never does something for a single holo... either all or none

>>49338657
she doesn't give a shit about numbers. She might as well go for something she likes or something that's gonna benefit her in the future than spam homo collabs or play apex everyday. She was really stupid. Red in Holo is cursed and marine doing the opposite made her become one of the top streamers in the world.

>>49339852
One thing I've learned about Bae is that she is a shy awkward vegetable every time she collabs with a non-EN the first time, she becomes fine on subsequent meetings

>>49339969
i guess now we know where do they have fans