/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>4918775
Cover interns are hard at work to distract people

>>4918775
>I might have gotten a bit too big.
In China?

>>4918841
1 point for coming up with something other than Zhang anon. that makes you just an idiot instead of the typical drooling retard in this board.

>>4918775
Because even if it's just a disagreement (which no one but the people involved know for sure) it still just shows that Cover would rather stick to their stupid rules than talk and reach a common ground with their talent, not just any talent but the most superchatted youtuber. It's either incompetence or lack of interest in keeping her, either way they should be criticized.

>>4918775
>management
Now why the fuck would she want to do a job that will just be her forcing the same shit on her peers as her current managers are forcing on her?
FUCK OFF WITH THIS "management" shit she's leaving the company period, all it would take is for one slip up from the talent or a leak that she is still with Cover for Zhangs to destroy every stream.

>>4918775
>>[EN] Coco: I might have gotten a bit too big.

>>4918901
>Reach common ground with a foul whore who only knows how to shit and degrade everything, like any Fatistan excrement
Yeah sure. If you only learned the wisdom of lowering your pants and offering your anus to Satan, you'd be a truly great person.

Fuck you and your shit country of abhorrent subhumans.

>>4918775
N-no, don't post the truth, the Zhangs must spread their rrats!

>>4918901
>not just any talent but the most superchatted youtuber
"cover doesn't bend to money" rings a little differently with the shoe on the other foot now huh

>>4918775
inhale copium holonigger

>>4918775
Because this board is full of schizos.

>>4918901
Because the rules are there to protect the talents? Most of the rules are to avoid the youtube hammer which is something they rightfully fear. I won't disagree some are dumb muh dumb japanese sensibilities.

Most of what Coco wants to do skirts the youtube rules which she could only do ironically when she wasn't so big.

>>4918775
so basically Haato is the next holo to graduate?

>>4919059
All companies seek money. Abandoning China was not some display of moral integrity but a smart business decision that would otherwise cost them Japan and the West. Letting Coco go, on the other hand, is not only a dumb business decision but also says a lot about what are the priorities of this company.

>>4919059
Cover is supposed to "bend to money" from the talents retard. They're employees, they're literally THERE to make the company money. Rabid chinks should have no say in that.

>>4918775
when did she said this??

>>4919177
If it was simply to protect the talents against the hammer and sickle of Youtube then why would Coco be so upset to the point of leaving? It's clearly more restrictive than that and the fact that they'd rather stick to it instead of listening to the girls (not just Coco, but Haachama as well, remember she had a long break due to similar disagreements) is very telling.

>>4919059
That money is a metric of decentralized fan support, unlike Chinese investor or billibilli money which comes from CCP affiliated parties. It wasn't about the money itself. People wanted cover to bend to their own fans. They took a "FUCK OUR FANS NIGGA" approach instead and pursued unironic seiso with religious conviction in contrast to when they permitted Hololive's earlier even more crass content.

The narukami rumor which seems to be sourced from Coco herself pr9vides the context. Cover's push into China saw them take on CCP shills as staff, investors and fans. Now they're caving to this pressure even if it's just to get sponsorship money. Which means that cover either bent to ideology or bent to money instead of bending to their fans. This is why everyone hates them now. They're unironically a black company and have been for a while. Yagoo's lost control.

>>4919309
Recent members

>>4919313
That's a big part of the reason Coco's upset to the point of leaving. Youtube isn't blameless in this. Coco's herself publicly blamed youtube for a lot of shit and a portion of frustration is probably directed at them and their relationship with Hololive too

>>4918901
The whole talk felt more like Coco made the decision to also not go against what the agency wants in terms of rules or the general vision.
I don't know how to exactly say it, but like she feels like she is not supposed to decide where hololive and what hololive is.

I don't agree that her decision was correct and she should have fought or even be a bit unfair and pull a Pekora, but she isn't that kind of person in the end.

>>4919313
Because what she wants to do skirts the rules? Retard. Haachama shit was skirting the rules so fucking hard its surprising they put them back up. I'm pretty sure haachama selfharm videos actually break the rules

>>4919458
You're talking about YouTube's rules, right?

>>4918972
Shouldn't you be eating your uncle right about now?

>>4919505
Yes

Because this board lives off retarded rrats

>>4919417
Could be, but there's also the fact that she said Kanatan listened to a lot of her complaints, I don't think those complaints are related to Youtube, but to Cover, but then again I guess this is just speculation at this point.
>>4919428
Oh yes, that reminded me how Pekora cried on stream because management forbid her from doing a project she really wanted to. This just reinforces how fucked up management is.
>>4919458
Learn english before posting.

>>4919628
I'm speaking perfectly fine english, fuck you.

>>4918775
>ignore reality you witnessed over the course of months where cover refused to help her with the spam
>live in alternative reality The Corporation tells you to
Sasuga zoomer

>>4919628
I didn't say all of her complaints were youtube. There's definitely a lot of complaints she could and probably does have with Cover

>>4919628
>Oh yes, that reminded me how Pekora cried on stream because management forbid her from doing a project she really wanted to.
Happened to Marine too.

>>4919718
what sort of projects are Coco, Pekora, and Marine talking about that get canned? Is it just Cover not wanting them to do anything new, or is it a type of content they want to do that Cover doesn't want? I'm so confused by this.

>>4919183
so basically im monky

>>4919628
Gura said she needs to get video ideas run by management, too. She said she's the spontaneous type of video maker and the process required at Hololive puts a dampener on her motivation for videos.

>>4919819
Pekora wanted to go to the EN Minecraft server to fuck things up there.

Coco had to stop doing Asacoco.

Haachama had to stop with her skirts.

Marine probably wanted to do a porn video.

>>4919059
It's very much about money, retard. The suits kept Coco down and isolated so she could quietly milk her fans after the yab without causing trouble and stonewalled all of her ideas because they didn't want to risk anything, or perhaps they were only letting Coco stay because it'd be dumb to fire her after nuking CN branch. Coco disagreed and left.
Notice how they only allowed her to collab with EN when her graduation was already decided, they're trying to get good optics

>>4919819
pekora case was something about giving prizes to nousagis, but management said it was dangerous or something
coco wanted to do some asacoco type thingy
marine idk

>>4920030
Mori was the first EN collab and that was not even a week before the announcement
She has told staff and members about the graduation a long time ago.
Your rrat is shit.

>>4919819
I think the best way to go about this is to look a the projects that were actually greenlit. Watame's Exercise in the morning. Polka's comedy show that is very sanitized but still very funny. 3D Suisei concert, 3D Aqua concert, 3D Towa concert, 3D kanta concert, From1st, 3D Nene concert, another 3D Aqua concert.... you see where I'm getting at with this??

>>4920030
More like it was a last ditch attempt to change her mind. YouTube hadn't even finished rolling out antispam features to other channels.

>>4920107
That's exactly what I'm saying, she only gets to collab with EN because she's about to leave. If she were to leave without ever collabing with them it'd look really bad for cover

>>4920148
REEEEE NOOOO WE WANT TO SEE COCO SWEARING FOR CHILDREN, WE WANT TO SEE HAACHAMA CUTTING HER WRISTS, WE WANT TO SEE PEKORA SENDING BOMBS TO NOUSAGIS WHY IS COVER SO RESTRICTIVE

>>4919819
For Marine it was the one that she had been investing a ton of her own money into. She also had to cancel her 1 million stream.
Coco was Asacoco. She had come up with a lot of other ideas in the past. The ones she tried doing this year were likely shot down so she left them unfinished and chose to leave.
Haachama was her schizo skit arc.
Pekora idk.

>>4920202
but if they knew about her graduation long before why werent the collabs happening sooner rratman?

>>4920107
>>4920030
The EN collab was only an issue for Fans. It bothered Coco for only a little bit. She would answer questions about it because they were very insistent. We now know that Coco actually talks to them offline. Even Okayu who only admitted after the graduation announcement that she and Coco actually hang out a lot. She knows she will be able to collab with these girls eventually. They talk a lot and have a good bond.

>>4920202
>>4920263
The problem with this whole chink narrative is the fact that Cover wouldn't even allow a collab to touch EN if they really want to protect from the scary dragon. You know that right? If Aqua shows up bawling then you know they have no intention to fucking go back with the chinks.

>>4920450
I never said anything about chinks, or protecting EN from the spammers. The suits wanted Coco to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down, EN collab ban wasn't necessarily about chinks, especially considering how she collabed with everyone else.
>>4920263
How the fuck would I know? Maybe cover themselves only realized how bad it'd look now

>>4920240
The problem here is that these restrictions were not a thing before. The management kept trying to rewrite stuff up and be more explicit as the girls kept doing stuff. The only way you would think it's bad is if you are not the audience for them. That's why the haachama shit was very divisive. A lot of people liked it. A lot didn't.

>Said she leave lots of dreams unfulfilled
>"She just had some disagreements with the company"
Yea sure.

>>4920588
What did Haato do? I don't follow that bitch.

>>4920533
The only reason why there is even an EN collab restriction was because of the chinks. We know there is a restriction because Mori herself worded it that way "the moment we got the permission, I immediately messaged her"

>>4920649
That logic is sound. She obviously can't do what she wants because she has creative difference with the management.

>>4920667
The question is what did she did not do

>>4920240
Yes, I literally want to see all that. Problem?

>>4920588
As with all things, increased regulations make it unfun. Whoda thunk it?

>>4920750
Just answer me kisama

>>4920240
Yes and you are a faggot, problem?

wow so it really is cover's fault?

>>4918775
>[EN] Coco: It's just that the direction I wanted to head was different from where management wanted.
>[EN] Coco: Haha, you do hear it with bands a lot, right? "We disbanded due to creative differences."

In other words she wanted to turn Holoive into VShojo and they refused, so she got butthurt and left. Good riddance to this westernized thot that wants to subvert idol culture

>>4919670
You do not understand the burger "mind".
He's complaing that you use proper english. That's the problem. Too much IQ necessary to read for him. Small brain needs small speak.

Let me show you.

>>4919628
management isn't here to be some bitch's servant, it's here to manage you cunt

>>4919237
Clearly they don't, unless you're also convinced that Mori/Charlie collabs should be acceptable because she brings in money.
If it was always about money, shit sucks, shouldn't have trusted [brand]. If it was always about Holo/idol ideology, then it says more about what's not being allowed if >>4920148, the Ame charity stream, and many other projects get the go-ahead but other projects do not.

>>4920926
It's not black and white. I personally think that Cover could have thought of other options to keep her around. Like make a separate agency like HoloStart. But like HoloBlack where edgy shitlords can go rampant. They can do it on twitch... oh wait...

>>4920834
No actually. Having no regulations will just turn you into VShojo, because the degenerate audience will push the girls in that direction. The only way to maintain some level of standards is to have strict rules.

>>4920992
Why is Watame the one always tied to the worst shitposts?

>>4920992
This entirely

The worthless whore only pleased fat fuckers.

Anyone decent saw and heard a loud negress whose entire content wsa about seeing how low and animalistic she could take everyone.

Cover saw this and thought "we'll be nice but we're not gonna let her shit everything" and when she realised she wasn't going to have her way, she left. No different than any other Karen or SJW infiltrating a company: enter, play your takeover game, act like a victim when you're stopped, and pretend like it's management's fault for being bastards.

Typical whore. Only fatties will walk straight into her bait.

>>4921059
It's not a shitpost, I'm 100% serious. The "creative differences" that Coco had are almost certainly things that undermine Hololive's image. She didn't even want to do proper dance moves at Holofest, she has zero interest in being an idol.

>>4920588
>The problem here is that these restrictions were not a thing before.

The actual death of a company. And it's all so fucking reasonable. It's sad, but it makes sense. They got too big. There's too many lives at stake. An office of two hundred plus people. Like, forty talent. How can Yagoo be about literally anything else but self preservation? But then, when you are, when the priority is only keeping the company going, what are you even fucking preserving then?

>>4921106
Holy shit, watching Changs still seethe has made this all worth it.

The chink rrat is killed. Narutard is wrong. Anyone who wasn't a ccp narrative generator that thought about this for even an hour and who was actually watching Sachou and Kson would have known that this might have been the case all along. She's going indie so that she can continue streaming on her own terms.

>>4920992
What's the deal with Vshojo?

>>4921163
They can talk about what they want without getting smacked down by Jap management. Welcome to the land of the free, and home of the horny.

In all of this, people are forgetting/ignoring three important things that influence the way Cover manages content creation:
>a japanese company operating with Japanese sensibilities in mind
>an American video streaming site with American sensibilities in mind
>the popularity of said company before and after the year 2020
Set aside "The T Yab" for a minute. How does Cover reconcile being a Japanese company that somehow got VERY popular in the west and how do they navigate the minefield of social do's and don'ts of societies that tend to have both inclusive and exclusive views on certain types of content?

Before 2020, it was easy simply because "no one" was paying attention. They got away with a lot of shit that was both against YouTube rules and and western moral compass, as well as Japans own legal minefield and moral compass. Remember that janitor yab that got Gokisei in hot water? In the west people would laugh it off if they saw the whole skit or shrug it off if it was some click-bait shit to make them look bad. Conversely, Japanese people look at Holos make shonen/shota/loli jokes and go "haha pedo lol" when doing so in the west could mean the end of your career.

Facing such challenge, I'm not surprised that a company like Cover would end up taking a rigid position that would stifle creative freedom and make things hard for people like Coco (and to a lesser extent, Haachama) to produce unique/controversial content.

>>4921045
That's the impressive thing about Fatistan: after decades of becoming increasingly worse and niggerised, they still can't understand this basic and obvious fact.

You can't piss all over the place and expect that it won't stink.
You can't have no rules, no boss, and do whatever low/subhuman shit you want, and not quickly turn into a cesspool. See this very website for an example.
And you can't fucking have a Karen whore that goes around pushing exactly for the lowest, the foulest, and the most nigger, and expect your company to survive.

Management at Cover saw the whore, they tried to give leeway to the whore, then the whore said to obey her or she'd leave. They stood their ground like any decent human, like any non-fat fuck would, and the Karen left acting like the victim of management.

And all her simp bastards are screaming and shitting everywhere. Good riddance to all of you!

>>4921189
>They can talk about what they want without getting smacked down by Jap management.
What is the problem then?
>home of the horny
That's Marine's channel

>>4921212
How about the talents. They have to find a way to appease them. Pekora, Marine and Korone are all one meltdown away from graduating.

>>4921212
>See this very website for an example.
This is the thing, zhange: if you don't like in here, and unlike your commie hellhole of a country, you have the freedom to leave.

I know exercising your freedoms is an extremely novel concept for a bugman living under the watchful eye of pooh, but if you go ahead and try it out maybe you'll like it!

>>4918775
why didnt she said this in her announcement?, the backlash wouldnt been so bad

>>4921585
Japanese implication autism, probably.

>>4921349
>exercising the freedom to shit all over yourself is novel to you
Yes it is, thank the fucking Heavens. I shall let you enjoy that yourselves. You and your dragon whore.

>>4921280
>WE MUST APPEASE THE WHOOOOOOOOOORES
No. You absolute simp.

>>4921280
>Pekora, Marine and Korone are all one meltdown away from graduating.
Doubt it. They're too big to leave and Korone never had a problem with management.

>>4921198
Basically this. As a company what they do makes a lot of sense given how the japanese antis and maybe also some fans behave.
They want to be attractive to sponsors and they want to keep trouble away from them and the talents.
There is also no correct way to handle controversy anymore. In Japan you would just apologize and its done even if you don't mean it. That angers the western fans because it is unfair/unjust.

Daily reminder that only changs A) defend black companies like cover or B) criticize beloved western vtubers like Coco and ironmouse.

Beware of anyone who won't admit that the republic of China is the legitimate government of China and has been this entire time.

Detect the chang. Identify the chang. Remove the chang. Simple as.

>>4918775
Where did these translations come from? A member stream?

>>4921807
There's a pastebin. Coco talks about going independent and starting her own agency. She's trying to become the vtubing equivalent of Gintama's otose.

The shitpost gundan have already jumped ship. More will follow as graduations increase.

>>4921802
>Daily reminder that only changs A) defend black companies like cover or B) criticize beloved western vtubers like Coco and ironmouse.
While it is true that the rest of your post is a good way to find zhangs, the quote above is just bait because, in the west, no one is above criticism or beyond reproach. As for Cover being a black company... do you even know what a black company is?

>>4918775
So my initial thought when I first saw that she was graduating was correct.
I knew this was going to happen, considering how much she complained about the direction Cover was going in parallel to the content she wanted to create.

>>4921163
Main issue is their pink cat headliner is a hypocrite that went all SJW and then came crawling back to the lolislut grift.
Rest of the group is more or less fine.

>>4921802
I've been called Chang 25 times today and I'm here. And will return tomorrow.

Jesus, your own plastic toys probably have more authority than you do.

>>4918791
fpbp
Everyone here is just the equivalent of a bored house gossiping.

>>4918901
This is how corporations think. Someone "standing up" to them can't be allowed. They'd rather break the golden goose than allow it to flourish.

>>4921280
A bunch of money, a huge fanbase, business contacts, a circle of streames who are very friendly with each other. There is also uncertainty what will happen after graduation, what about my old content? What about my music?
I think depending on how Coco's future develops it might change their view. But it is quite a huge step from her to risk losing some of these things. (Assuming she made the decision around March/April)

>>4920845
She ascended to Godhood and remade the firmament
Consider yourself lucky that you had a place in her grand plan

So Coco, Haachama, Marine and Pekora were all restricted by Cover, but have those restrictions affected Noel's non-holo content? If no, then why not? I know her content became somewhat more sfw for a while because of niconico restrictions but that was temporary.

>>4921212
You're basically arguing for big daddy government to tell you how to do everything. If that's what you like, you're a hopeless case and lost to humanity.

>>4918775
no shit, this is Japanese work culture
she was pushed/forced to quit by the company treating her like shit, else she would have remained
you can't badmouth the company, this is all a PR stunt to make it seem like it's on her own accord

>Why are people still making rrats about coco when we already know the truth? Its the most mundane one.
>just accept this PR reasoning
>don't look too much into it
>just keep enjoying the streams
>just accept this PR reasoning
>don't look too much into it
>just keep enjoying the streams
>just accept this PR reasoning
>don't look too much into it
>just keep enjoying the streams
>just accept this PR reasoning
>don't look too much into it
>just keep enjoying the streams
>just accept this PR reasoning
>don't look too much into it
>just keep enjoying the streams

fucking NPC niggers just go keep posting memes on /r/hololive to cope

>>4921739
>whores
They'll never fuck you, you'll never be a woman, and you'll never be Japanese.

>>4922267
Cope schizo.

>>4922021
>I've been called Chang 25 times today and I'm here.
We know you are FOB trash, but a Chang none the less.

>>4922003
Source? What did she say that made her an SJW?

>>4922267
pr schizo

>>4922192
Noel has sex with the higher ups, she's untouchable.

>>4922192
That is the thing. That is probably the obvious thing that all talents have pointed out to her already. Cover didn't really care about her streaming on her alt almost every other day. I'm assuming that she just wants to go full time indie. She probably has projects that she wants to do. Imagine if Coco goes on hiatus and suddenly Kson goes to multiple conventions. It won't look good on her. She might as well just graduate.

>>4918775
i don’t believe it. coco was raking in a fuck tonne of money, surely that’s all a corporation would care about

>>4920240
Why yes actually

>>4922520
A million or two in whale money is nothing compared to the sweet teet of corporate sponsorships. I'm going to do it and say the N word, but Nijisanji is still taking a piece of the pie that Holo wants.

>>4922520
You must be retarded. Coco makes a lot of money but 49 talents combined makes a shit ton more. Their holofes2 and Bloom were all reported making $4M a pop. Just on ticket sales alone. All of the vtuber specific projects that was greenlit were all 3D concerts or something in the vein like the subachocoluna gag team or polka legend. Have you seen Coco getting any sponsorships that is not specific to her alone? Their Gen5 alone gets Family Mart, Microsoft and RedBull through Botan. You also fail to consider that Coco wanted to graduate. Not Cover. She wants to do stuff on her own terms which is clearly not working for the current policies that they have now that is working okay for most of the talents.

>>4922733
the more i think about it, it makes sense that coco wanted to graduate, she is a streamer/entertainer with no idol aspirations,

>>4920992
Asacoco was fine as it was. Why couldn't cover just let her keep doing that at least?

>>4921124
>The "creative differences" that Coco had are almost certainly things that undermine Hololive's image.

Hololive's "image" is built on Miko saying the n word. Being overly restrictive does way more harm than good.

>>4922865
This has been a looming thing now for months now. The longer the time is passes without her getting any new projects, the more it was obvious that she wasn't getting any projects approved. Her drive was motivated by these asacoco stuff she does.

>>4922933
Even Kanata tried to do something similar but only lasted for 1 episode. It has something to do with getting express permissions from every talent and talent's managers for everything.

>>4922976
You found Hololive through Miko then? Because a lot did not. A lot of things made Hololive viral. Aqua's weight reveal, Docchi Docchi, Azur lane, Scat man, Matsuri raging, Rushia ragin, Pekora's MC, PekoMiko, Neighbor wars, Their cover songs. A shit ton.

>>4921739
Pekora is borderline asexual (despite her costume), yet even she broke down into tears because Cover nixed a project she has been working on for a long time.

>>4921124
It's not about their "image", it's about not having a target on their heads. Coco said it herself, they got too big. They're not allowed to break youtube rules anymore, which ascoco did, haachama was debatablely breaking and so forth. Doing that stuff will either get them banned or demonetized. They can't do things that break Japanese bullshit sensibilities otherwise it incites possible physical harm the girls way etc. A lot of these dumb rules seem to be about protecting the girls. Some of them, especially Coco wouldn't just accept bullshit if it wasn't for good reason.

>>4923232
Yeah. The jptwitter cancer is bad enough to contend with. Add the whole chink cancer too. They just want to avoid more problems. Just seeing how Miko and Marine was over seemingly a pure misunderstand tells you that shit can destroy them very quickly if not moderated properly

>>4922933
Anon, Coco's entire character was built on being an anti-idol. It was likely that the content inside of it was enough to filter Japanese companies when they so much as got a look at Cover's content portfolio. Even Haachama's shit is polarizing when you have Cover trying to portray the company as "family friendly" (do not confuse this for "kiddie shit" either).

>>4922976
>Hololive's "image" is built on Miko saying the n word.
You can only get away with that shit once. Once you're made aware of the implication, if you do it again, you're setting yourself up for failure.

>Being overly restrictive does way more harm than good.
This is true, but this says more about what Hololive wants to be seen as, as opposed to what the talent or the public thinks it is or should be. I think that maybe both management and Coco approached this from the wrong angle, and didn't think that maybe restructuring the organization to be able to target multiple demographic segments would help them keep them expanding their business. They would still face some of the bigger social/legal restrictions though...

>>4923359
It's a complicated matter. They chose that safest route that does not actively hurt the majority of their talents. You can only really count in your hands those who is really yab. Even Kiara for all her faults still plays within the restrictions. Except the vei shit.

>>4923521
>Even Kiara for all her faults still plays within the restrictions. Except the vei shit.
>Veibae
I still don't understand what made them think to go through with that. Did they no do enough background checks or thought that no one would dig this shit up and make noise about it?

Outside of that, it is true that she does play it relatively close to the edge but still safe. And the EN restrictions are greater than JP's, with that whole "tone down the cursing" and other minor things. If they got them so far down on the moralizing route, it shows just how much money they must be generating from ads and sponsors in the west.

>>4923112
>You found Hololive through Miko then?
No I didn't actually. But what made hololive big at the time was that they were pushing boundaries and that was the impression I had of them when I joined. Coco was their fastest growing channel for a reason. Coco was also a direct influence on MYTH which was hololive's biggest break by far. Gura, Mori and Ame being the most popular in that gen isn't surprising given that they are the ones who do the riskiest stuff. Ina is simply comfy and Kiara's talkshow is just a repackaged marshmallow stream which is why they trail behind.

>>4923359
>You can only get away with that shit once. Once you're made aware of the implication, if you do it again, you're setting yourself up for failure.
"Once"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPZ3YrpmidA

>>4923359
>Once you're aware of the implication, if you do it again, you're setting yourself up for failure

what the fuck are you talking about, Kiara said the word on stream and she SPEAKS ENGLISH and nothing happened

>>4923699
A lot of the no cursing thing will be youtube has rules against it. I'm pretty videos with swearing get lower tiers of monetization and the algorithm gets weights against the video. For better or worse the managers have to consider the average video monetization.

>>4918775
Well Narukami rrat was pretty retarded for many reasons, but it seems like they were loosing restrictions lately... I mean this is why we had that whole Veibae/nyanners drama with Kiara and Calli with gigguk just now...

>>4921785
>They're too big to leave
Yet Coco is the most superchatted channel in the entire world.
I see Marine retiring. It would suck for me because she's one of my faves, but I do think she sees vtubing as a finite thing. Graduating Pekora would mean a bigger hit to the company, since she's pretty much the "face" of the company in Japan.
As long as Korone can play old ass games she'll be happy. She seems to have big mommy energies but everyone has their limits.

>>4923112
Miko saying Nigga happened way before the rest of those things, if memory serves. Back then I used to think that the "idol" thing was a joke, because they never did stuff like that, but then the situation changed. Rushia raging happened after Hololive gained worldwide popularity but before the cleansing of their image. I think they are doubling down on the idolshit idea now because they might see music as a more profitable business than streaming, perhaps more cost effective and safer than just have them pushing boundaries and challenging youtube's authority. No one would watch if Hololive stuff was hosted on Cover's website directly.

>>4924119
korone was about to retire a couple of months ago, rrat says it was bc cover didnt do enough to keep coco around

>>4923152
I think she avoid sex stuff because her roomate got sent evidence of a fan jacking off to her stream's screenshots and her reaction was caught live as she was streaming.

>>4924090
EN gets to do it because they are "foreigners". Domestic jp content has a certain rules and what happens outside of Japan is "that thing those people do over there", they don't give that much thought. And it's not limited to youtube or idols.

>>4924599
KEK

>>4924490
Yet she kept going. She did plan something for october 1st, which got people extra paranoid due to this week's events.

>>4924599
Ok, I'm going to need a link to this, anon. This sounds funny as fuck

>>4922192
the only restriction holos' roommates have is that they can't be vtubers afaik

>>4924977
Iirc she made fun of him saying he had a small dick.

>>4918940
Based

>>4925043
Coco's roommate not only was a vtuber, but also made her model on a hentai game (Koikatsu).

>>4924977
I'll try to find it. I saw it recently but she was wearing a santa outfit and was filmed from the neck down. The voice is unmistakeable but she kept screaming that something was gross.

>>4924599
Give me a zelda, I need to see that.

>>4925415
>zelda
aquí tienes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZSskIMsa4

turns out the whole thing was mentioned on the uploader's pinned comment so it might as well be bullshit, but who knows.

>>4920057
I think she wanted to do something like a game show with prizes to "give back" to her listeners but I'm not surprised this one got canned because it might fall under gambling or some shit, Cover is shit at communication though so perhaps Peko was already buying stuff before they actually said NO, forget about it.

>>4918775
People just love the drama. The creative differences between Coco and Cover is very clear. If you check Coco's roommate's contents, you would understand the content creation she aims to do. She tried to do that in Hololive but had to go through obstacles just to attempt to do them after the Chinkoids attacked.

>>4918775
Most likely true story is that harassment remains an issue, Coco doesn't like being creatively tied down as Cover management tries to move into more family-friendly content, and Coco feels bad that anyone who collabs with her has to endure harassment.

>>4925510
god damn it, why's it gotta be this faggot's channel
thanks for the link tho, that is funny as shit

>>4922264
>I can't tell the difference between a government setting rules and a company setting rules

>>4918940
underrated

>>4918775
Cover still sucks. If they don't let vtubers have more creative freedom then their idols will eventually leave one by one. Coco was just the icing on the cake.

>>4927305
yeah, i understand your pain. It sucks that he has to expose them like this, not because of the girls, but because he's such a massive ego tripping faggot.

>>4930128
It's also on Niconico, just fyi. At least last I checked.

>>4930268
oh, thanks. It would be nice to get proper context to this other than that fuck's delusion.

Since it's somewhat relevant. The nkodice oga drama shows the state of things. Even a parody can result in drama now.

>>4932676
Cover simply got too big

>>4918940
Holy based

>>4922267
dangerously based

>>4922296
>>4922336
shut up cover shills

>>4923052
So typical Japanese corporate bullshit. I'd leave too. As much as I love japan, I'd rather slam my nuts in a car door than work for a Japanese company.

>>4922328
She came out as pro-Anita during GG, big fan GamerGhazi, tumblr feminist etc. fuck nyanners but other Vshojo members can be pretty shitty too like Zentreya dude pretending to be a girl with text to speech it's like the jokes normies make about chuubas, Silvervale is a bitch, Veibae is a dumb bitch etc. I just can't force myself to support Coco if she's attached to people like that.

>>4921162
Management got stricter after that Taiwan thing though so it is related, just not in the most straight of ways.

>>4921798
>. In Japan you would just apologize and its done even if you don't mean it.

Didn't work for Aloe

>>4918901
Should Cover have tried to reach common ground with their talent and allow Mori to collab with Cr1tikal?

>>4942378
No

>>4921585
But it is bad, means management is sabotaging the talent and Hololive might not hold their position at the top of the game for much longer.

>>4922192
The only restriction for roommates is that they can't use their Cover-owned characters/models or talk about holo-stuff in general (doesn't seem to be a big deal even when it does slip though).

>>4923052
I wonder how Kiara can keep up doing holotalk in this conditions when she uses stuff like clips and question from the audience (although some are standardized) are EN managers really that superior??