/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49198933
>>""people""

>>49198933
What the fuck are you talking about?

didn’t deny her fans being simps when directly asked

>>49198933
because nijinegros needed something to deflect
seriously what she said was completely fucking nothing

>>49198933
>turn on
Just look at these

>>49198933
That neck is an edit, right?

>>49198933
Just a few schizos. Her numbers and everything will stay the same, literal nothingburger

>>49199093
Fauna only dreams of having boobs that big

>>49198933
They realized only kiara won't break the illusion

Niji yabe deflection thread

>>49199078
You would be completely melting down if a Niji had said it. You're just making excuses because it's your precious Fauna.
Isn't that funny though? A Niji has never said something like this. Only a Holo. Funny how that works out.

>>49198997
So true! Only we’re allowed to be parasocial fucks!

>>49199176
>because it's your precious Fauna.
DAMN RIGHT!

>>49198933
Honestly I'd be surprised if anyone has turned on her. If people did, the number is very small

>Another bait thread

>>49198933
Insects are referred to as people now?

>>49199078
>nijinegros
Thread about Fauna and you are bringing up Niji out of nowhere. Nice cope, cuckling.

>>49199046
I was surprised when I found out what the actual superchat is, people were make it sound like some horrible creepy superchat that made her respond and put her foot down, like some guy roleplaying tying her down and raping her or something. Instead it was just a guy asking what she thought of a quote from Berserk.

>>49198933
They didn't, they're just temporarily unhappy.
She meant well, but what she said boils down to:
>You know I just work here, right? We're not friends, please touch grass.

>>49198933
Oh yeah, I'm "turned on" all right.

>>49198933
People didn't turn on her. Not even saplings turned on her.
It's just nijiniggers using this nothing-burger to deflect from their daily drama.

Did she address it in today's stream?

>>49199321
>>49199176
>2 nijifags immediately to the rescue
so you niggers lurk these threads after all huh? let me guess next, you also make them?

>>49199325
yeah she just took it and went "Griffith is right, I'd eclipse you all too"

>>49199439
Based based based

>>49199407
We just can't have a thread about this without tribalist faggots throwing around boogeyman copes.

>>49199542
kek, right

>>49199078
>>49199167
>>49199298
>>49199315
>>49199365
>Saplings with over a year of membership display badge
>denied existence to fuel the nijinigger deflection cope
Anon, members turned on her, their comments are just deleted.
Trying to deny reality has never been a good thing.

because I'm barely getting out of the hole and she pushed me back in, at least it was gentle and not a kick like Ame and Kronii did

>>49199439
To be fair for Griffith, he was left with a crippled body. Can't fight anymore, can't even lift a fukcing sword. Anyone who has a higher calling will be tempted to use Behelit.

>>49198933

>>49199612
Probably Nijifags who membered her for over a year out of spite only to turn on her as soon as the opportunity arose. Pretty clear case. Nijisanji bad. Hololive good.

I don't like feeding into it because I think it's probably the biggest forced yab since the guilty gear thing with Ina, but I do think there's good reason for a small (much smaller than any of these faggots are making it seem) percent of her audience being upset. I know what she said was meant to be taking positively but it came with the pretty fucking big assumption especially in this hobby that all her audience has friends. For those without them then the message probably just felt like a reminder they don't have any and you aren't even allowed to forget about it for a few hours a couple days a week.

Yeah okay "they should just go and make friends" as if anyone does that and just doesn't fall ass backwards into friendship in 99% of cases.

nooooo i wanted to marry her bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>49199755
I was told nijiniggers were poor and don't watch streams or sc / membership / buy 2% merch
Which is it? Why does the story keep changing?
Face it. There were upset saplings that got censored.

>>49199612
>still the same image
10/10 ASMR btw, Fauna LOVE

>>49198933
I don't know why you're still making threads defending her like she's your friend

>>49199842
Oh sorry, you're right, lemme add more of the scs that were discovered that were also from year long members.
Maybe that'll get the point across that saplings were upset and it's not just "le heccin evil nijiniggers"

>>49199926
her career is over, right?

>>49198933
Yes, I am very turned on by her

>>49198933
Desperate attempt to deflect from the 1%.
It didn't work.

>>49199842
I mean you can just check the comments yourself if you want. The vod has 700+ comments now, even after some of them were pruned.

>>49199926
Sorry nijinigger, your mask has slipped the moment kson made her tweet and not one or two but SEVEN fauna threads just like this popped immediately in the catalog

>>49199953
You retarded? Who tf said anything about that.
I'm just tired of retards like you denying that saplings got upset because "I-ITS JUST NIJINIGGERS! N-NO ONE WAS TRULY UPSET!"

>>49199612
No-chatters baited by the catalog don't count

>>49199755
More likely than you expect given how none of them is active at all in her chat. As in they've never used it, save for one message in 2022.

>>49200034
Thanks for the engagement!

>>49198933
>people
>its crazy chudos, unikeks, dramasister and young people from certain countries

The main reason is attention. They have no real social contact in the real world. This way - even if its negative - they get some dopamine boosts by making shit up and stirring drama.

>>49198933
Cause she told the truth.

>>49200055
>>49200056
>lurkers who just liked membership content don't count because they're criticising on something that they didn't like for once
>criticism isn't allowed
Fuck off.
>>49200036
Who the actual fuck even cares about kson.

>>49200136
>Who the actual fuck even cares about kson.
THIS! You tell them sister!
>keep deflecting, maybe people will bite and let all of the niji drama go!

>>49200136
>and all conveniently popped out of their shells at the same time
>only after people on /vt/ started whining about it
>it's just a coincidence bro, stop thinking too much
>muh criticism

>>49198933
Do you guys get a bigger share than your vtubers or does it all go to the C-level suits?

>>49200200
>implying those comments weren't made and taken immediately after the vod
Nahhhh
>>49200198
Watcha doin on that site? Nice self callout.

>>49198933
i heard what she said and honestly it's not that bad

it feels a lot crazier to believe all the comments like this are just false flags

>>49199176
they did? Vox had whole stream about it lol

>>49198933
In real news, we should discuss why people turned on nijisanji. Why are they such a terrible company making enemies left and right?

>>49198933
I saw Fauna, turned 360 degrees and walked into her

>>49200379
>why people turned on nijisanji
your clip pretty much answers that question

>>49200364
Yes, ChatGPT does not exist. And if it did, it certainly wouldn't be putting out exactly two paragraphs of text about a given topic.

>>49198933
What the fuck is wrong with her neck

>>49198933
*Why did people turn her on?
Fixed your post, OP

>>49199176
this is a complete rerun of the Elira shit, only more schizos ( such as yourself ) latch on because Fauna is much more popular

>>49200436
woah ChatGPT has been membered to Fauna for 1 year and 7 months?

>>49199176
a lot of them did and do it all the time, I just dropped them because I didn't give a shit about them with Fauna it kind of hurts

>>49200463
>fauna
>popular

You know Suisei said the same thing as Fauna a while back. While they might not be wrong in what they said, its just Suisei has... actual skills and talent to rely on to put on a performance. What the fuck does fauna have? No seriously she is slightly above average in gaming in EN (which is a very low bar to begin with) and she is the only one who does ASMR consistently in English. And that's it... she has no singing skills or any real charisma to fall back on. If you remove the GFE you are just left with another dime a dozen streamer practically no better than a twitch e-thot...

>>49200436
holy schizo

>>49199926
I don't blame the nijifags, and I don't think it's about deflecting the nijiyabs, but a lot of trolls are trying to feed this retarded, inexistent drama, since even during the ASMR stream /uuu/ was garbage and full of new IPs. I believe that some actual saplings are mad or disappointed (like >>49199756
) and I kinda get why, but the number is still very small.
Also I see a lot of them hurt or confused about what Fauna meant. She didn't say "improve yourself", but she just expressed how much she loves her fans and how she wants the best for them. You (not (you)) can stay in your delusions only for a limited amount of time, a reality check will arrive in a way or in another. At least she did that with love and honesty. I know that saying all of this is useless here and not everyone will agree, but this is honest thought.
Sorry for the english, ESL moment

>>49198933
She did the woman thing

Fauna enjoyers: 1
Simpling parasocials: 0
GAME

all i see is cope from hololive and nijisanji

>>49200947
nah she took the L on this one

>>49200947
All cucks ! Stop wasting time, go out, touch grass, bang real pussies.

>>49200605
You said all that but you're membered to Ina RUMAO

>>49200482
>1 year and 7 months
and still no EN3

>>49201113
>access ends may 27
smartest sapling

>>49200497
Tasteless newfag, kys.

>>49198933
She turned on us.

>>49200482
all that time and no new talents for the branch. Guess fatgur was right about council all along huh

>>49199176
Seethe nijinigger. Have fun in your burning house.

>>49199612
Kek. Snowflakes. You're a disgrace to saplings.

>>49200883
There are plenty of people busting their asses all week and using their small amounts of free time to watch their favorite streamer. Like I'm literally too exhausted to do anything else lately, and it sucks to have to deal with shit like this. I couldn't even watch the asmr. I like the other saplings. I like the "parasocial" shit they post. I've literally been watching her for two years and she burns the community to the ground for a twitter own. gross.

>>49200081
Best post.

>>49199133
>>49200437

>>49199612
>>49200364
Are there any other comments like these? I want to share them with some buddies so we can laugh at them

What's next for Fauna? This controversy has done irreparable damage to her career. Will she call it quits soon? She's on the path to becoming a 3view very soon at the rate saplings are dropping her.

>>49201543
Kek, you wish.

>>49201543
She was never that popular to begin with. Let her marinade in her own mediocrity.

>>49198933
Immersion break.
But her new lore is amazing though

>>49201272
I was one of the wife posters in /uuu/. It really hurts man. I'll try to watch her like a random streamer. I can't drop her like that. I still love her. Hope it works.

>>49202038
I thought I was ok at first but all these members and anons sharing how it made them feel has made me realize the magic is kind of gone with her now. At least we still have Gura…

>>49201543
she was destined to be mid. Now she will be... slightly below mid

>>49199141
or feet that tasty looking

>niji is a black company
>yeeeeeeeees so trueeeeee
>also fauna fucked up
>no she's perfect fuck you nijifag AIEEEEEEE NOT LISTENING (or whatever the equivalent of this is in brown subhumanish)

>>49202038
Was never a sapling poster but loved her comfy streams it just doesn't feel the same already tried to rewatch a stream and I just couldn't

Has she streamed since the yab?

I genuinely cannot believe anyone posting in this thread thinks they look natural and sincere and not blatantly obvious.

>>49202281
I don’t hate her like I do Ame and Kronii, but I do feel like I can’t watch her anymore. If she feels nothing but cold indifference towards her fans then I just can’t escape to the fantasy anymore

>>49199028
there's 1 edgelord that keeps spamming topics after Fauna responded to a bait superchat. Feel free to ignore.

>>49202369
I like that she wants to show us only her best side and that's actually good enough for me.

>>49200379
play Genshin, get Impacted

Honestly this was the last straw for me. Fauna got Kronii's twitter bug in her brain and decided she wanted to dunk on the "parasocial fucks". I'm done with Hololive. I'm moving to Idol corp permanently instead of just when no HoloENs are streaming.

>>49202369
gotta prune the weakest saplings, nature is cruel

>>49199612
fake and gay

>>49202363
they wouldn't get paid if they made subtle posts and they aren't smart enough to create more convincing posts that go against their scripts, please understand.

>>49200605
>member to Ina
KEK, opinion discarded

>>49201161
>reading comprehension
Smartest retard antiposter.

>>49202369
Yeah I definitely don't hate her but there is no escapism anymore it just feels cold

>>49202323
She did an asmr
>>49202104>>49202038
Could I ask is it more of a concern (worry?) in what content and/or the personality fauna will show in future streams? Or the breaking of the escapism/immersion?

>>49202460
So long schiZo

>>49198933
She didn't say anything wrong but it's interesting that none of the men I watch (turbonerd indie twitch fleshstreamers, not vtubers) have ever needed to say anything like this.

>>49202579
>escapism relies on denying reality and supplanting it with a fantasy
>somehow can't do this with 1 sentence
Nigger please.

>>49202580
It’s the fact that the immersion is broken. I know we’ll never have any personal relationship but I liked the dynamic of her fans as a collective being her friend. Now that she broke that, the entire experience feels tainted

>>49202580
You gain nothing from engaging with them and they'll lie and deny it but they are in fact acting in bad faith. When you first explained it, fairly reasonably, he responded with
>I've literally been watching her for two years and she burns the community to the ground for a twitter own.
Which is such a gross misrepresentation of everything that happened that it should have triggered a red flag for you about the intentions of the people you're trying to reason with.

>>49198933
Niji deflection thread

It really doesn't bother me at all
Maybe it's because I was a Teamate since debut and put up with a lot of shit in those two years until she felt the need to tell me to fuck off that my frame of reference is completely skewed, but I can't even pretend to be upset about this
To me Fauna's shown time and again she's nice, she's very appreciative, and she's understanding of the opportunity she's been given and that's really all I ask
I dunno, man

>>49202652
>i felt like i wuz frendz and shiet
You never felt that, stop lying.

>>49202652
God you're such a dishonest slimeball.

> Members calling out Fauna
> "n-nijinigger!"
I hate Niji but have some dignity, you holonigs.

You are all retarded and never cared for Fauna in the first place. Not sure who you're trying to fool or what you get from pretending you're deeply hurt. You would have to literally be retarded, and even more retarded than a Taiwanese person, to not get her message and pretend she doesn't care about her fanbase. Or ignore the fact that she acknowledged a relationship but doesn't think it's friendship.

>>49202813
mommy won't let me lick her salty toes!!! i'm crying

>>49202460
I'm sure you watched her.

>>49198933
We didn't turn on her, she turned on us.

>>49202864
>she turned us on*
FTFY

>>49202706
This. She's appreciative of her fans and even though her reply is a little tone deaf, I'm still glad that she always wants to do her best for us. Uuuuuu.

>>49202803
Those members literally lack a history of commenting on her channel and if they REALLY gave a fuck about her they'd chase hearts like the rest of them, but they don't.

>>49202864
I was really hoping she could dodge these issues like Gura

>>49200436
>it's a sockpuppet account!
>it's a schizo!
>i-it's ChatGPT
stop... just stop

>>49202706
It's really telling to me, since it was a moment where Fauna actually opened up MORE and started talking about her own insecurities and how she always wants to put on a positive face and went on to talk about how grateful she is that the "best side of herself" she presents on stream brings people joy and how she wants her fans to be happy too and they deserve to be happy. Like the whole core message was that she thinks her fans are worth cherishing and should value themselves more than they do; she genuinely would feel worried and unhappy if her fans choose to neglect themselves and their own wellbeing, when she doesn't think she's deserving because she's just an insecure nobody putting on a smiling face. If anything, it was the most parasocial she's ever gotten, which makes it all the more hard to believe that all these zero-engagement "lurkers" are suddenly coming out deeply wounded over her "attack" on parasocial relationships.

>>49202927
Sorry for not being a heartschizo. This is the last one I got.

>>49202669 I'm a different anon to >>49200883 but as someone who does prefer the parasocial aspect of vtubers I feel that while the immersion break was a small bummer things will still remain the same? Fauna has probably thought like this about us saplings maybe since the start. & it could just be my autism but I get the feeling that some people feel like fauna is going to change how she acts on steam ect, I don't know maybe it's just me and reading too much into it.

can someone explain to me what fauna's done that' even warranted that level of fan honesty. Like another anon said in the thread, she's essentially talentless outside of the mommy egf feels. Iirc she does she even dance for festivals?

>>49203292
>immersion breaking
Holy shit, Fauna was 100% correct and justified. I'm just glad she put a stop to it now before you freaks started planning something dangerous. You are not a small cartoon plant. You do not have a relationship with ANY anime girls. Go touch grass, literally go touch grass right now.

>>49203292
There was literally nothing new in that stream that she hasn't expressed multiple times before in multiple similar TED talk tangents. The only difference is that this time bad faith menheras could latch on to the easily clippable foot-in-mouth soundbites she used in the very first sentences and turn it into an anti movement.
>I get the feeling that some people feel like fauna is going to change how she acts on steam ect, I don't know maybe it's just me and reading too much into it.
They don't actually believe this, you're giving them too much charitability. It's the reason why the shitposting during the stream today was "oh yeah the content is still the same but now all the magic is gone boo hoo :'( "

>>49203384
literally nothing, she literally did not do anything
some schizo superchatted a cringe quote about the berserk anime and fake fans are losing their minds and making up reasons to be angry. Last month they were the transfreaks and this month they've taken on a new role as "betrayed fans"

>>49199756
doesn't anyone actually care about this?
this feels more tone police then actual people feeling hurt. classic tone policing is when you virtue signal about how other people would feel.

This is almost a rerun of microaggressions argument on college campuses, where no one actually gives a fuck about microaggressions.

>>49203384
>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, there's a lot of reasons
>it is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really

All with the love heart eyes toggled on. Then proceeded to provide holier than thou life advice as just another way of urging people to go outside and touch grass. Hiding under the guise of "it's because I care about you all". But it doesn't stop her from pandering to lonely men with her maid girl ASMRs and such.

>>49198933
I blame Fauna for replying to that bait sc

>>49203850
>All with the love heart eyes toggled on
That she forgot to turn off after doing a yandere bit for fanservice. Also I love how you fags never ever post the full thing

>>49203702
>This is almost a rerun of microaggressions argument on college campuses, where no one actually gives a fuck about microaggressions.
It isn't "almost" a rerun, it's plainly the exact same thing. She "microaggressed" and "used the wrong tone" so it doesn't matter what her intended meaning is, she Hurt the Feelings of the True Saplings™ by using their trigger words and now no matter how positive or caring a message, it is no longer "sensitive and inclusive" and she needs to be cancelled.

>>49203902
>Also I love how you fags never ever post the full thing
Just like how the Anons who were damage controlling never posted the full thing.

>>49203702
There are some actual menhera saplings who unironically do care and some are in this very thread. They are entitled to feel however they want. But anyone trying speak for "us saplings" and making statements like "she burned her community" are shitposting dramacunts.

>>49203507
This is a Jewish plot to destroy Fauna, who is a good Christian woman.

>>49203850
>All with the love heart eyes toggled on.
>love heart eyes
>proceeded to provide holier than thou life advice
>holier than thou
>just another way of urging people to go outside and touch grass
>go outside and touch grass
>Hiding under the guise of "it's because I care about you all"
>Hiding under the guise of
>But it doesn't stop her from pandering to lonely men with her maid girl ASMRs and such.
>pandering to lonely men
Don't mind me, just breaking this up into individual points because it makes it more obvious what you're doing and also makes it easier to see just how goofy this sounds.

>>49203437
b-but she was my wife...

>>49204122
Thanks. Feel free to do this with all of my posts.

>>49204044
Fauna is Jewish you idiot. She took the week off before Xmas, but not Xmas Eve or day.

Who the fuck is watching Fauna to be parasocial? From day 1 she's been very careful with how she treats her fans and she fully understands and has made it obvious that she wants to be an entertainer, not a fill in for your friend. She's right that it's much healthier for you to develop relationships with people who actually know you.
t. Day one Sapling.

>>49204545
Fauna is a Jewish plot to ruin the lives of good Christian men.

listen. I wouldn't give a shit about any of this if she didn't act like saplings all have friends. And now to help her out kronii makes a stream showing how to make female friends. Fuck this shit man, i'm too fucking ugly for friendship, you think i'd be watching fucking chuubas if i wasn't. I don't need constant reminders of how shit my life is, just play games and have fun why is it so fucking hard for them to do that. I'm still gonna watch and sub to her but man quit with the pity improve youself shit, go fuck yourself, you have NO idea how fucked i am in real life.

>>49198933
I don't understand either.
People keep calling her "Mommy, mommy" but when she acts like an actual Mom, quite a handful saplings get mad.
Fucking mental.

>>49198933
"You want to be real?"
No.

>>49204712
Because sexual mommy is not the same as real mom.
>>49204692
Let the friendless losers wither by themselves. We and the chuubas don't need to care about them. They'll be gone and there will be no effect even.

>>49204831
>Let the friendless losers wither by themselves.
hololive wouldn't exist without friendless losers

>>49204044
>>49204545
Fauna is atheist

>>49204831
i am one of those friendless losers you retard. The only difference is i've been forced to accept reality thanks to suffering severe burns as a kid.

>>49204927
shut up zuko

>>49199176
>A Niji has never said something like this.
I don't watch nijiEN at all, but off the top of my head I can think of at least 5 instances of them saying shit like this because of the reaction on this board.
Vox said it after one of the girls intruded on his ASMR date roleplay
Finana famously called some of her fans parasocial fucks and shit on them before asking them to buy her voicepacks
Elira had a recent meltdown
Enna has always made fun of parasocial fans and calls them creepy.
Mysta had a bitch fit one time where he literally said he is not his fans' friend.

>>49199842
Based cuck. You always knew your place and that's why nothing can make you angry.

this the fauna female domination thread?

>>49199871
Underrated post.

>>49203437
I'm aware I'm not friends with fauna and as >>49203466 stated, this has expressed one way or another in streams before.

>>49199612
>it doesn't exist
>okay well it does exist, but they aren't real saplings
Pathetic

>>49198933
>turn on
She definitely does to me.

Mommy did nothing wrong!
I need my dose of uuuu

>>49203437
Kill yourself, cunt.

>>49205532
she may be away for a while, you know.

>>49204579
I didn't watch her for that at first. I slowly fell in love with her. After clover died, she started to get much closer to us.
>keep talking about how she feel alone without chat
>2 valentine's day streams on her off day
>literally gfe birthday stream, first kiss after a long time
>heart eyes, new yandere eyes
>"i had to stream. the saplings have been waiting for me for so many days!"
She was the last person I would have thought would make such an outburst.

Anyone recommend a new EN streamer? I watch Gura but she doesn’t stream much so I need someone to fill the gap. Who else hasn’t done a male collab and hasn’t outwardly expressed disdain for her fans?

>>49203933
It really isn't the same. Lonely people are reminded that they're lonely everywhere they go and every time they talk to another person, and every time they're by themselves. They just deal with the pain day to day instead of demanding things from others.
So it kind of sucks when the one place they go to forget about the main source of their despair - their loneliness (something that Fauna will never experience as a woman), is thrown in their faces and they're told the reason they're lonely is because they aren't trying hard enough. That's not a microaggression. That's just a regular aggression.

>>49199756
Rare lucid post.

>>49198933
she used to be professional, and she was unprofessional for a bit.

>>49198933
Because she's a retard who had a woman moment and said things she didn't need to mention. Saplings will still be around, she won't be irrelevant. But it's way too late in EN to try and filter your fanbase.

>>49204545
>Fauna is Jewish you idiot
dropped

>>49206140
2%

>>49205331
The thing that really annoys me is how saplings are turning on each other. I get defending your oshi but denying anything at all happened then treating the rest of your oshis fans like shit isn't right. For everyone who came here for some stupid argument or to be like those members are fake saplings I ask you, Who's really being a disgrace to Fauna?

>>49206024
Kiara, I guess. If you can get over the voice and the model.

>>49206171
Fauna used to go to mass retard.
She's jewish in that she probably lives near new york and likes new york vegan food culture which surprise surprise is largely kosher stuff like falafel and baked goods like bagels and black and white cookies.

>>49206180
>denying some saplings existence for a 2% shitter company everyone is already laughing at
Nothing and I sincerely mean nothing will ever deflect from Niji but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to deny that some saplings felt hurt.

>>49206057
Stop pretending like you're speaking for anyone except yourself.

>>49206273
The one thing I don't understand is didn't you people know about Fauna and Mumei specifically? Like, you were warned a thousand and one times what you were getting into. They were literally the only two in their gen to be confirmed to have you know what.
And in her past life, Fauna was super explicit in saying she didn't want parasocial fans and wasn't comfortable with fans loving her.

>>49206273
This

>>49206363
man i dont even know why i like her even though that exists. she's just so gentle and cute i guess

>>49206347
Assuming you're a man, someday, you too will be in your thirties without any way to meet new people and then maybe you will understand.

>>49206363
Ok, why the fuck do you get into vtubers if you're going to go through doxxshit to find who you care about?
The whole point was to be attracted to what's on screen. The second I heard "I'll be real" is already the kayfabe breaking moment.
Nobody asked for her to be "real". Yes I get that a majority of saplings are yesmen but holy shit it's embarrassing seeing some scorned saplings get turned on by the yesmen and instantly denied existence despite being and having membership for almost as long, or longer than the yesmen hugbox.

>>49206248
I do like how Kiara appreciates her fans. Honestly she and Gura have become the only watchable ENs

>>49199756
Besides assuming that people have friends, she also took the initiative to speak on behalf of all streamers. There was a brief moment of recognition she might not have fully thought things through when someone in chat mentioned having streamer friends themselves. Hell, some of chat are probably low-tier streamers themselves too. It's fine to put up whatever barriers you want, just don't try to justify it by claiming they're universal. Fox Friend and Comet alone show us how a streamer's preference for how close they want to be with their fans isn't even universal to Hololive.

>>49203933
Eh, you guys are misconstruing those people. It's not "tone policing" or "microaggressions", just an uncomfortable topic for everyone involved. It's like talking about suicide, just brings the mood down.
For what it's worth, I don't think Fauna said anything wrong, but all the same it's just inadvisable to even go there. She got baited, it's that simple.
Of course, the retards who completely blew their top at this (if it isn't just falseflagging shitposters) are way out of line. She said what she said out of concern for her viewers, not out of spite. This should mean basically nothing for true fans. However, like all good lies, there's a nugget of truth in there. (Being that it can make people feel bad, which is the opposite of what she's trying to do.)

In short, things are complicated.

>>49206431
Stop projecting, bitchboy.

>>49198933
Lamy is superior to Fauna in every single applicable situation. Wn2hhd

>>49206272
>jewish because she eats kosher
what's next? you're a zhang because you eat bugs?

>>49204692
>kronii makes a stream showing how to make female friends
Seriously? I don't think she understands why people were offended when she said that.

>>49204831
>Let the friendless losers wither by themselves
lol, have you any idea how big a percentage that would cut off the average vtuber audience? Talk about out of touch.

>>49206505
>Gura
>watchable
You have to actually stream to be watchable

>>49206486
>The whole point was to be attracted to what's on screen.
Not everyone is a superficial idiot like you. Some people actually care about the people they interact with. Would you still feel the same way about Fauna if she werea man? Would you honestly be okay with that as long as her avatar was a cute anime girl? Because that's fucking retarded.

These aren't characters. They are avatars. Fauna is a real person who simply wears a mask to talk to you. But she's still the same person underneath that mask as she would be underneath any other.

I'm out of the "wow that was an unusually cold comment out of the blue" phase and have fishhooked back around to fetishizing it in the "spit in my mouth and call me a pathetic friendless weed mommy" phase.

>>49206523
>denial, masochist, yup parasocial fuck

because she has a thicker neck than they do

>>49206646
You better tuck that nose in before it gets caught on something, Schlomo.

>>49206725
what if that was her plan all along

>>49206347
Don't be a dickhead, anon. I know you want to defend Fauna, and I agree that she did nothing truly wrong. However, the dude is just sharing his genuine feelings, which are legitimate too. Nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure Fauna would agree.

>>49206725
I'm actually in the "I hope she gatekeeps harder" camp now. I don't give a fuck if "actual saplings" are upset, they must be mentally ill if that comment offended them. I hope she goes even further and culls more of these people out

>>49206570
Some day, when you've grown up, you'll want more than just tinder hook ups with whores. But you'll be all alone and it will be too late.

>>49206922
Please I can only get so erect

>>49206787
Her neck is all fat.

>>49199176
That would imply anyone outside of the sisters circle cares about nijis. No one gives a shit about them.
Seriously.

>>49206922
I too hope she hurts herself more to spite the people here that I don't like. Fauna needs more fans like us that want her to suffer.

>>49206763
I can't understand what you're trying to say, you're gonna have to explain.

>>49206894
>I know you want to defend Fauna
No, on the contrary I just hate the posters and want to revile them.

>>49206855
you have no good arguments so you use insults, typical zhang

>>49204579
because, as an entertainer, there was no need to say this. it contradicts her stance.

>>49206922
I hope she gatekeeps spiteful cunts like you.

>>49206922
Why do you want your oshi to lose money?

>>49207086
Findom

>>49207058
Okay, so you're just a shitty person that Fauna would hate, no better than the people you're calling out

>>49204692
>kronii makes a stream showing how to make female friends
I thought that was a roleplay thing where she was trying to get her fans to come on to her? All the clips I saw of it was her saying shit like, "there's a cute keeper of time in the discord who posts a funny meme, what do you do?
If it was disguised dating advice, wouldn't that just kind of soft confirm that Kronii is dating?

>>49198933
because she wants me to dress like bam margera while were having sex

>>49207179
Yes, that's fine. People are free to hate whoever they want, and I've no business or right to deny them that.

>>49206922
okay, simp.

RPing as a mommy or a gf or some significant other is always bad news, the target audience will always inevitably turn on you sooner or latter.

>>49207228
kek.

>>49207228
Turn on her, not turn her on.

>>49198933
You sad fucks are as bad as all those losers who lost their shit when replika ai deleted their waifu mode. Please touch some grass, there's a chance it's not too late for all of you.

>>49207370
Vtubing as an industry is built on taking advantage of people like this. Don't forget it.

>>49199176
>A Niji has never said something like this
>"We are not friends"

>>49207250
Shouldn't you be dilating right now? Hurry, your hole is going to close up

>>49207370
How is an AI anything like a genuinely real person like Fauna? Are you retarded or are you a newfag that thinks vtubers are all AI like neuro? Or worse, are you a sociopath that sees all other people like you see AI: as mere objects.

Remember, the Saplings that leave won't come to /vt/ en masse. Only the rapid dogs who defend their favorite girl when they yab, like a sports team enthusiast. She'll regret it, just like Ame and the rest of the ENs. Don't worry.

Simpling deserved it

>>49205178
Fauna doesn't collab with tempiss, we just called them simplings

>>49206725
Wouldn't be surprised if we end getting an outfit of Fauna being a dark lord. I would like to see it if possible and some would as well

>>49207552
Or you could use your head for a second and realize it's referring to the fact that both cases involve people going menhera after getting reality checked over an imaginary relationship being...imaginary. Go figure.

>>49207311
no, im turning on her because she wants me to be him but im not him and it kills me inside because i wish i could be him

>>49207058
Then I'll give you a reason to hate me.
Fauna is literally married. She is a taken woman. And not by you or anyone else here. Do your reps. She literally used to call herself his waifu.

Honestly, the only problem I have is that she's not putting her money where her mouth is.
If anyone watched Fauna for more than 15 minutes, they'd realize that while she's very jovial with her audience, she has always kept an arm's length, and that's perfectly fine. Honestly, this rant was not needed at all since her fans already knew that, casuals don't care and this won't stop those who are already too lost in the sauce.
But if you look at her content, it's absolutely bog standard and a lot of her appeal is in having a comfortable, friendly atmosphere with utilizing a lot of parasocial draws. If she wants to be seen as an entertainer, she should strive to make steps towards that. Fauna could make collabs happen, do challenge streams, improve her music output, lean heavily into lore or an on-stream persona, but she's doing none of that. At best, she's slightly above the rest of EN in gaming skills, which is not much by itself. On the other hand, she has done many watchalongs, alluded to her real life self too much to not feed into the parasocial friendship and did roleplay scenarios for some of her ASMR content.
I don't have a horse in this race either way, but she needs to commit to one side and not try to appease both sides, swapping back and forth like Kronii did. You can't have your cake and eat it too in this context.

>>49207668
Why would I hate you for that? Separation of character and actor are something anyone with a three-digit IQ should be capable of doing.

I don't know how fauna's message can be turn into a negative message. Her coming out like this means she cares more about her fan's well being. I always have doubt when supporting content creators because what if they are actually huge scums behind the scenes like an actual abuser. I actually respect fauna more now for being a good human being and can safely support her without worry. She should be praised for coming out like this instead of being attacked.

>>49207696
>Separation of character and actor
You fundamentally misunderstand what vtubing is. I sincerely doubt your IQ is any higher than room temperature.

>>49199298
Anything I dislike is a bait thread
>>49199167
Anything I dislike is a deflection thread
>>49199542
>We just can't have a thread about this without tribalist faggots throwing around boogeyman copes.
Tribalfags aare killing this board. You can't post about anything without reading the 2 factions insulting each other. Post something about Nijisanji, you're a holobrony hater. Post something about Hololive, you're a nijinigger deflecting the fact Anycolor pays 2/3% of merch.
Some subjects are that taboo you can't even discuss them, they get deleted after 3min because of that stupid war. Anything they dislike is bait or deflection and needs to be reported/deleted by mods. You could chose to ignore it or even manifest your opposition. No. It's just "you holobrony" "you nijinigger". Like if that board revolved about those 2 factions. Fun fact : it doesn't.

>>49207696
Why are there still so many retards like you that still think all of this is some sort of TV show?

>>49207804
>You fundamentally misunderstand what vtubing is.
It's a cute girl doing stuff on screen while an oji-san (me) watches and enjoys.

>>49207843
Just because streaming is parasocial entertainment doesn't mean the people involved aren't putting on an act, that the character you're viewing isn't a character. Maybe this is a SD above a 100 IQ thing?

this thread expired, but some of the same people read these, so I'll just answer here:
>>49072458
you realize that doesn't actually counter my point, right. you did that to improve yourself, and it came at the expense of watching streams (there's only so much time in a day). you didn't engage with the streams as much as you could have. but not all of their fans can be like that, if they want this level of success. they need some more diehard ones.

>>49207663
Anon, wishing to be a drug-addicted has-been loser is not a good use of a wish.

>>49199200
>moving goalposts
All of you are cringe. Unicorns are especially cringe because you give off Chris Chan "I want a boyfriend-free girl" vibes.

>>49207730
>I actually respect fauna more now for being a good human being
So true sister!

>>49206646
reading comprehension please.
I'm saying that she's not jewish, and the only arguments for her being jewish is liking jewish food and being a new yorker.

Man, i just heard about this today. I've been watching fauna clips for quite a while (my EN oshi is Bae) and only recently i decided to subscribe to her channel. I genuinely don't have enough time to watch streams so i can't ever get too attached to any streamer but the clips i've seen of fauna recently made me go "WIFE THIS WOMAN" more so than usual, since she's so based. I think it's tough to address this kind of stuff as a streamer but it's necessary to reset expectations if people get the wrong idea. The whole thing doesn't really change my opinion of her but i kinda feel bad for putting her on such a pedestal. Is that still such a bad thing to appreciate someone as a person without going full parasocial? Where do you draw the line? Like, i wanna be super excited and sperg out as a superfan but at the same time i hope that doesn't weird her out. Not sure how much to hesitate before letting myself enjoy her content. I'd still wife her in a heartbeat though.

>>49199755
>membered her for over a year out of spite
what???

>>49204692
You can be ugly and still have friends anon. I'll be your friend, as long as you aren't a crazy bigot like most of this board.

kek yea im gonna send a superchat but say mean things, thatll show em

KEK this is one of the most pathetic and desperate astroturfing attempts I've seen on this board. Keep seething sisters. Fauna doesn't care, her fans don't care. She's still my based oshi and the only reason why I still bother with Chuubas.

>>49207927
but anon i want to put hot wheels up my ass while im driving a lamborghini to tony hawk's house while he asks me to be a main character in the sequel to one of his games

>>49207590
Whatever you say anon

>>49199756
Yeah, that post synthetizes the whole situation. But tribalfags prefer accusing niji/holo. This is pathetic. It surely has a part of truth, maybe some nijifags jumped at the chance and made some threads about it to deflect from Zaion's drama, but the tons of posts about it only being Niji VS Holo are delusional, retarded and kill the board.
>>49206518
>just don't try to justify it by claiming they're universal
She just gave her vision, she never said everybody should do her way. And yeah she's allowed to think you shouldn't be friend with a streamer, since it's the most logic and obvious idea. You're delusional if you think FBK is your friend, she doesn't know you exist and doesn't give a shit about you. You're just a random she doesn't know who gives her views, likes and at best buy her money. She doesn't know you, she's not your friend. Also that "friend" term was just to cockblock a guy who proposed her lol. I wouldn't pick it up proudly.
All that (non-)controversy shows how bad are the parasocial on delusional vtubers viewers here. They just can't watch a streamer without the idea it's an escape from their shitty life, which is both pathetic and creepy. If you can't watch a female streamer with an anime avatar without thinking she's your friend or waifu to help you forgive you don't have a girlfriend, then you have a big big problem.

>>49207803
>Anything I dislike is a bait thread
>Anything I dislike is a deflection thread
Yes: to add, i never saw a post made with that Kiara image that was good.

>>49208645
>If you can't watch a female streamer with an anime avatar without thinking she's your friend or waifu to help you forgive you don't have a girlfriend, then you have a big big problem.

Welcome to /vt/ newfag

The funniest part about all this is people still pushing that she said anything bad about being parasocial when she didn't. Stop hyperfixating on the friend part and the rest of the "rant" is literally her trying to look out for your well being. She literally opens up to say how she was a friendless shut in loser in college (this was new info, by the way), and how fucking difficult it was to make friends and how it absolutely difficult and actually uncomfortable as an adult to, but that you're not a lost cause and it just takes a massive amount of effort. And this was after she read a few comments on stream saying they had no friends.

Literally nothing about what she said was negative and even the Saplings in the comments are fucking retarded and just weren't listening to what she was saying because they were so fucking hurt by the friend part they just refused to listen to what she was saying after. Which is ironically how like 99% of this bored has been functioning.

>>49208726
>newfag calling other newfag

Her lecture is rich because Fauna is among the most socially inept and cowardly members of HL next to Gura and Aqua, as well as being a mildly arrogant nerdy pseud. Yeah, I'm like that too, but those qualities aren't forgivable in a man. She's never had to work on herself because for her the idea of just b yourself and make friends is actually true, because she is an attractive woman. Nene was a lonely person once if she's to be believed, but she worked on her bad qualities and never judged anyone for it.

>>49202580
I could tell you just based on the asmr last night. Shit just doesn't hit the same when you're lying in bed hearing her say stuff like "you're so special to me" or "you deserve the world" or whatever and now in the back of your head you're thinking, "this is literally just a job, this is just for transaction between entertainer and consumer"

I have no doubt her personality will be the same, but there's just this kinda stink it has now. Like you sit there and the reality of "this is some weird weeb chick sitting in a closet stroking a plastic head while roleplaying as a maid so that a bunch of losers can give her money."
Like obviously that's how it's always been but at least you could kinda delude herself into thinking that she enjoys it on a personal level. When you're forced to look at it from the angle of "strictly" entertainment, it just loses it's magic.
It doesn't help that the sc basically asked if she thinks her fans are simps

>>49208033
us sisters deserve to have a girlfriend free boy just like christina chan wants though, right?

>>49072458 (me)
>>49207906
It's not as if chuuba streams are on 24/7. I'm just on when my oshi's streams are on, which you can usually tell by their posted schedule. Your point about how "there's only so much time in a day" to watch streams is wild to me because I don't even spend a quarter of it just watching streams since my oshi doesn't spend her every single waking moment steaming, and I'd rather not watch a bunch of secondaries in the mean time.
And again you missed Ame's point. It's not "you're all losers start lifting and dating lol", it's "stop being a bunch of negative nancies over my collab partners and do something better with your time", such as not necroing dead bait threads. In that regard, she was right to call you fags out.

>>49200081
>>49201305
ahhhh yess so true sisters!!!! own those parasocial fucks!!! each own gives us an extra slit on our wrist!!!

>>49208800
it plays into how, if you look into what she said, she doesnt even think she is worth being friends with because you barely know each other, you most likely will dislike her if you did (somehow people really dislike vegans, just an example, among other things she might be and other beliefs she might have). she did say she's just a silly streamer on the internet.

only unicorns and gachikois did
it's for the best as those types of "fans" aren't worth having

>>49208897
>It doesn't help that the sc basically asked if she thinks her fans are simps
Considering the replies to this thread I’d say yes.

>>49208800
I refuse to believe you are so hideous or unpleasant that you can't make friends.
Girls may not want to be friends with you sure, but guys won't care and you'll easily find friends just doing day to day stuff in college.
I think Fauna has this perception of chat being all younger college students (probably because of how much the mommy shit is pushed). She probably had her popularity blossom in college so that's why she tries to give so much college advice.

>>49208973
She's had low self esteem/imposter syndrome since fucking debut and has been saying this shit for over a year now it's so fucking tiring how people are pretending any of this is news or never happened before this

this is why females will never foster the kind of communities men can. They can't help but open their mouth and let you know how you disgust them because they don't have to deal with the troubles of the world when they don't want I enjoy chuubas but i'm never gonna involve myself in their community the way i used to involve myself in jerma and joel and vinny's communities.

>>49209010
>They can't help but open their mouth and let you know how you disgust them
Are you pretending male streamers have not done this too

>>49208979
>only unicorns and gachikois did
no they didn't, it's homobeggars and sisters who have been seething at her and Mumei for fucking months because they refuse to collab with ZA BOIS. And because despite that they are still wildly succesful and mogging pretty much ever western Vtuber save for Gura. They just can't accept that the evil idol culture won after they spent months calling everyone an incel.

>>49209047
Northernlion literally spends every stream making fun of chat saying they're coddled streamwatching babies and they should be out there making families and not watching him play animal emojicasino.

The Saplings that turned on her are more sane than the Saplings in denial who are still defending her.
Like watching a host bitch slap a hoe and the hoe keeps telling everyone he's a nice guy.

>>49209130
Your jealousy and desperation are showing up again sister.

>>49209005
they just really refuse to understand that she's not really lording over anyone that she's an untouchable streamer.

she just doesn't want people to see how not awesome she is when they really get to know her (that in itself, i think, is amazing), but that comes from low self-esteem.

you really wanna see Fauna with no makeup, no filter, not perfect, not funny? because you're close friends?
what about arguing about veganism and carbon footprint of livestock cultivation?
i know i do and some of us do, but she doesn't.

>>49209172
i'm just enjoying the show. Wondering how long until you guys get bored though. I give it 2 more days.

I’m just sad and dejected

>>49208979
yassss sister!!!! those terms don't describe us though, we're just loyal lovers of milord!!!

>>49209069
>it's homobeggars and sisters who have been seething at her and Mumei for fucking months because they refuse to collab with ZA BOIS
Nah. The same thing happened with Ame and Kronii, even though they had no problem collabing with them.

>>49209243
Actions speak louder than words and the only way for me to stop supporting her or actually start caring about that one line is if she starts acting differently, which after that ASMR I highly doubt she will.

None of the people angry at this would even go vegan for Fauna.

I know Fauna didn't do anything wrong but you guys are so negative it even affects me

>>49208645
Fauna's words:
>This goes for every streamer I think
I forgot to take into account EOP board, should have used Kiara as an example but the only point is that there's clearly differences just within Hololive for where people put boundaries. Outside of that bubble, it's actually rather easy to become friends with some streamers. And if you ever have had female gamer friends (surely not /vt/) it's not weird for some of them to pick up streaming as a hobby. Guess what, you can still be friends.

this is why you should never care for a corpo vtuber. They only see you as dollar signs rather than a life line. If need be, they can cull you.

>>49202038
>>49202104
>>49202281
KEKMAO
>At least we still have Gura…
MY SIDES
You guys have serious problems I swear. Of course Fauna is not your fuckin' friend goddamnit. That's the I am , it always been and stopping watching her because of what isn't even a revelation is crazy immature, I can't even believe it.
I prefer thinking you are all trolls, especially the Gura shit lmao
>Fauna : comfy, seiso, never swear, chills in Minecraft and Hitman throwing puns with mommy vibes, ASMR
>Gura : never stream, gremlin loli troll shitposting, sings sometimes
>"AT LEAST WE STILL HAVE GURA"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>49198933
Cause ninisanji got called out and they need to deflect attention by triggering schizo unicorns into action

>>49209356
>>>>>>I think

>>49209371
people who spend too much time on vtubers in general have serious problems

>>49209275
Yes, in that situation unicorns and gachi were mad. But sisters are just as fucking vicious when people ignore their homoshits and there is quite some proof of it. Especially if we take beggars into account.

niji deflecting fake sapling homobeggar schizo unicorn thirdworld dramasister incel loser chud snowflake insect "people" gachikoi chatGPT the goose is loose bros... we've been found out...

Speaking of Gura, why the fuck do I have a feeling the same people trying to turn this shit into a massive drama are also the same ones who spam "Gura doesn't stream" threads nonstop? Weirdly enough since this shit happened I haven't seen them.
Oh and remember when Gura had that MatPat video and sisters tried to instantly astroturf it into some massive male collab drama but it turned out to be just a couple of pre recorded lines? Lmao.
These are not Hololive fans.

>>49206057
anon, you're lonely because you type shit like
>women can never experience actual loneliness
completely unironically
you're honestly one of the rare example of justice in the universe, because you're a reminder that bad things can, in fact, happen to bad people and will keep happening to them until they stop being bad people

>>49209379
It's a dumb opinion with or without that addition, and as a non-Fauna watcher literally my only beef with this whole popcorn producing episode.

Because she showed herself to be just another ironic weeb who has no real grasp on who her fans actually are. Yes there were definitely dramaniggers stirring the pot, but fact is Hololive originally was for, and in large part still is, for lonely men. The kind that don't have friends, female or otherwise. They don't watch Hololive to be reminded of that fact.

>>49198933
someone sent in a bait superchat asking if she saw her fans as friends or simps, and all she did was say she can't be friends with viewers. she never denied seeing them as simps.

>>49209665
It's just another "Loli bad" subhuman

>>49209716
>Because she showed herself to be just another ironic weeb who has no real grasp on who her fans actually are
this

>>49209356
>>This goes for every streamer I think
>This is wrong, Rushia told me "daisuki" and "chu", I know she really loves me despite not knowing my existence. So that means every streamer is different. Checkmate, Fauna, you're not as smart as you thought, huh?
Sure, pal, that's different for every streamer. Some are your friends, some aren't, sure…
>And if you ever have had female gamer friends
This exemple is so bad for a simple reason : this person is your friend in the first place, and turns out to start streaming as a hobby, which is the exact contrary of what happens with Fauna. Don't be dishonest, people crying she betrayed them didn't know her before she streamed! They watched her as a streamer and as the delusional neets they are, they thought it was ok to think she's their friend/waifu/mommy/cumtrash/whatever goes by their ill brain.

I can't chose if I hate or pity you guys… probably both but 80% hate.

As long as Fauna doesn't collab with the Tempiss cuckfaggots I'm fine. And so far she seems to have zero intentions of doing it. So cope and seethe sis.

>>49209047
Because nobody cares about homos

I’m gonna finally give my 2 cents on the issue. What Fauna said doesn’t bother me at all because I’ve never turned away from the reality that she and I could never actually know each other on a personal level. Rather, I‘ve always taken a more constructive view on the whole matter which is if there’s 1 person like Fauna in this world, surely there’s gotta be more, and some of them might actually be attainable. So I’ve opted to try and find a Fauna-like gf instead of Fauna herself which is essentially what Fauna was nudging her viewers to do anyway with her recent statements, and it just makes me love her even more that our brains operate so similarly.

>>49200883
cope

>>49209881
First step: stalk a vegan a restaurant

>>49209868
Go to bed seanigs, stop saying sister every minutes

>>49209665
Yeah they were busy with zaion and fauna drama to bother ggg the past week. Once it cooled down or they realize no one cares, they come crawling back again like the schizos they are

Fauna seems like a girl who went to a liberal arts college and watched a few video essay and now all of a sudden thinks she's a genius. Typical female behavior, have a dithering interest in a hobby and claim you're an expert on the subject by being able to hold a conversation on topics regarding it (topics that they initiate to show how smart they are, by the way). This fiasco basically proved she's as dumb as any other bitch and needs a man to protect her / tell her what's right and wrong.

>>49209786
if you really think about what Fauna is like as a person, judging by what she is really trying hard to show as a streamer... well i'm just sad and unlucky that i don't know her personally, because she seems like she'd be a wonderful person to know.

but that is the point. it sucks that she is probably missing out on some great friends among fans, and we are missing out on a great friend in Fauna, but that's how life is. what she's saying is, well, it can't be helped that we're possibly missing out on each other, but we ourselves should try not to miss out on the other people in our lives who we CAN enjoy great friendships (or more) with.

>>49208671
>i never saw a post made with that Kiara image that was good.
Who cares about your shitty subjective random tribalfag unicorn pov ?

For me I just feel backstabbed by her. She could clearly had ignored that sc but replied to it for a reason. I don't know if she spending time with Kronii has something to do with it or what, but all she said, while its true, was totally uncalled and did hurt like a bitch.

And in before anything. I don't give a shit about nijisanji, I don't watch them and I couldn't care less about them

>>49210088
Backstabbed how
NONE OF WHAT HSE SAID IS FUCKING NEW. You clearly don't fucking watch streams.

>>49209947
Jokes aside it's a very healthy attitude, i will pray that you succeed.

>>49210088
Sure thing

>>49209964
Seethe more sis. Still not watching your homoshits.

>>49210077
Me because i'm 100% right and reality agrees with me, you deny my truth you deny reality itself, blasphemer!

>>49209371
Gura may not stream often but she doesn’t break the illusion. When she streams she’s friendly and provides a good escape. Fauna’s streams have been tainted now

>>49209881
you're gonna have to be really lucky with that.
again, people here have given many anecdotes about the vegans they have come to know in their lives, and they are pretty special people, mostly batshit insane, rape victims, trauma havers, the works.
but some of them are astonishingly the kindest people in this world despite their inherent awfulness.

so yeah, it really doesnt matter if we go for someone like Fauna or not.
what does matter, however, is if we actually find someone, is that we're good enough for them. and that part, we can all work on.

>>49209868
>As long as Fauna doesn't collab with the Tempiss cuckfaggots
And for that I'm glad. Doesn't mean I'll forgive her for what she said though.

>>49210380
>I'M NOT GONNA FORGIVE
>for stating the obvious
I'm starting to think she was right.

>>49209010
>They can't help but open their mouth and let you know how you disgust them
Of course they're disgusted, look at the schizo losers everywhere on that board. Vtubers are cute, successful, have tons of viewers, why would they care about shut misogynist neets who never wash and consider their oshi is a whore because she laughed to Vesper's joke…
Anons, I love that board cuz we're all having fun there, trolling and insulting with sharp sarcasm via pictures of hermetic references, but that doesn't prevent me to understand why any vagina owner would obviously be grossed by 90% of the schizo-incels here.
And that's precisely because we're schizo-incels that our jokes are that meta and fun.

>>49210374
I mean, the vegan thing is among the least of reasons that I like Fauna lol. If anything finding a Fauna minus the veganism would be an upgrade.

>>49210063
I don't even watch this bitch, but this isn't female specific behavior. Ironically, you're doing the same thing in your post: claiming to know something as a fact despite your claim coming directly out of your ass. You'd realize this if you
1(one). Ever had a conversation with a man that wasn't dominated by you being afraid of them, thereby making it impossible to pay attention to what they're saying
2(two). Interacted with people irl for any length of time over the bare minimum for survival
3(three). Spent even a tenth of the time you devote to jacking off to introspection and/or self improvement.
tl;dr - you hate women and are afraid of men so you spend all your time alone online crying about how awful they are. Be better.
Letters and their spelling added for your benefit kouhai :)

As an ex-teamate dropping my oshi wouldn't be anything new, but I don't see why I should be even nearly upset enough to drop her. That talk was a bit awkward, but it's something she's alluded to multiple times and shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone actually watching her. I've always seen Fauna as someone to idolize, not be friends with. Plenty of jps like Marine have also had the same talk without issue

>>49210580
i myself am a squeamish and picky eater so when i dated a vegan i enjoyed the stuff we actually ate because i didnt have to think about my food too much. oh it's edible? great i'll eat it.

but yeah veganism is a package deal and comes with all sorts of other things like irrational liberal thinking, climate change doomerism, and well, sometimes i imagine if i had Fauna as a gf whom i'd argue with about those things she would slap my cheeks softly and be like "wow i hate you you don't have empathy for other living beings hmmmph" it's quite fun to imagine especially because it has happened before

>>49209868
That's up next, Mori-Kronni corruption is pretty consistent.

>>49210819
If I had a vegan gf, I would challenge her to name literally ANY ethical problem with eating eggs so long as you raise the chickens yourself.

>>49211487
It's not about an ethical thing, it's just that the eggs are just the chicken menstruation

>>49208979
>only unicorns and gachikois did
I agree. I love Fauna and I was proud she said she's not our friend, because that's the truth, she just isn't, and if you think otherwise, you have a problem. I find it disrespectful when streamers call us friends or chubas say they love you. What kind of gross lie is it? I don't respect someone I lie to. Either they're lying when they say it, or they're delusional, which isn't better.
>those types of "fans" aren't worth having
The second part is true to me too. Those fans are the biggest unstable dramaqueens who'll hate you for offline collabing with the other sex (hmmkay), having a boyfriend (damn), collabing online with males (?) and EVEN laughing to a fuckin' joke from them (????).
Most communities are made of people appreciating your content and finding your humor funny etc. They don't give a shit how your inside are filled offstream. People caring about that are more likely to be truly attached to you, buy your merch, create content about you and expand your fame, sure, but they're the first one to feel betrayed for anything and call you a whore the day you hurt their twisted feelings…
>>49209069
I can't deny it's another solid read too.
But that doesn't change that gachikoi and unicorns are just a fraction of saplings, and that the fact they stack here doesn't mean they impact the whole community.
And there is more to think : is it morally good if you're upset by a streamer you don't know when she tells you the truth you don't wanna hear, that she's not your waifu, girlfriend, catgirl, mommy, sister or anything.
>/vt/ be like : yeah but some real saplings were upset! This drama isn't a nothingburger!
Yeah, but it is normal? Is it good? No.

>>49198933
https://i.4cdn.org/vt/1683615723136354.png

>>49211562
well a lot of veganism hinges on reducing or completely eliminating animal suffering, so the question is do the chickens you yourself raise suffer if you eat their eggs, and i would think the answer is no

>>49211594
>I find it disrespectful when streamers call us friends or chubas say they love you
I don't like being pandered to in that way either, but whilst Fauna wasn't in the habit of telling lies like that she also didn't feel the need to give people the obvious (but illusion breaking) truth either. She doesn't need to lie, but she also didn't need to get baited by an obvious dramafag and throw cold water on every viewer.

That being said aside from creating a slightly uncomfortable and irritating moment in the stream anyone seriously upset about this days later needs to take their meds. I doubt she is going to broach the subject again.

>>49210069
>she'd be a wonderful person to know.
Surely. Or maybe not. Maybe she's fat and ugly, maybe she's assexual, toxic, weak, stupid, never do sport, and you would hate dating her, maybe she's got ugly teeth, no boobs and fat ugly ass, we don't know, we don't know her. Also the point is even if she would be a wonderful person to know, it'll never happen and it's normal. You can't know your millions viewers, that's irrealistic, and that would be bad, toxic and useless. Life is how it is and it's the only reality we can know. Imagining those impossible events will just hurt you in the end, relieve you on short term at best.
Yes for the second part.
>>49210462
>I'm starting to think she was right.
She was, because the truth is always right.

>>49211616
I see, so she's backpedalling?

>>49212137
how is that a backpedal? She acknowledged she ate bait, but she didn't take back anything she said on stream

>>49212137
>Backpedaling
"I only want what's best for everyone and and for everyone to have a good time watching streams and hanging out" is basically what she had already said mid rant and people ignored it because they were hyperfocusing on the friend part like a goddamn autist.

>>49198933
That is a thick ass neck.