/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Mommy having dedicated discord antis server now? So proud of her. She finally made it to the big league.

I gave birth today

>>49055741
Now make one with the actual quote

>>49055803
bigger than selen?

>>49055741
FAUNA THREAD?
FAUNA THREAD!

kek

You guys are probably earning more than the Niji streamers for trying to force this shit

What did she say someone timestamp me

>>49055854
Well, i'd say more than 1% bigger than selen's

>>49055741
She doesnt say that

>>49055741
Post cute fauna pics pls. Bonus points If she's preggers.

>>49055741
>ESL
>No red text
fake

>>49055908
That's a good one anon, I'll start using it too

why does no one ever post the link? just that pasta

>>49055803
Well sorry to pop your bubble but the discordnigger rotate between Holos, they are not that dedicated. But yeah welcome to the club I guess

>>49055803
She made it to the 1%

>>49056037
https://youtu.be/fgCHZbylmus?t=12124

>>49055908
Well consider they only get 1% it wouldn't be farfetched that some of them come /here/ to earn that Amazon giftcard money for food

>>49056119
YES SHE DID IT

>>49055741
Given enough time everyone cracks.

>>49055741
i hope she won't bring this up next stream..... ah who am i kidding? she's a woman, of course she she will

I love my wife, bros

>>49056119
We as Fauna and Saplings cannot be friends, we shouldn't be friends, I think it is important for boundaries to be maintained and if you can have a good time here then that makes me happy. That was me being real....did you want me to be real?

>>49056119
>if you want me to be real I'll be real, we as Fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends and we shouldn't be friends [...] I think it's important for boundaries to be maintained, I am here to entertain you and that is all really

>>49056119
>Fans act so demanding and toxic that the woman they are literally paying a subscription each month to pretend to be their friend has to take a step back and remind them of boundaries and how none of this is real
Damn

>>49056119
>we cannot be friends
>we SHOULDN'T be friends
What do you think the end goal is here? Just make the viewer feel like a piece of shit? Is that what makes money?
Can you imagine if you were watching a movie, all of a sudden, it pauses and the lead actor looks at the screen and says "Hey, just between you and me, I personally think you're a fucking asshole. Enjoy the rest of that movie with that knowledge and thanks for buying a ticket, jackass."
I really just wish I understood the objective here and why so many EN girls feel the need to voice their disdain and desire for distance with the viewer. Like, as a chuuba, why do you care if some rando is being parasocial in his room by himself? Who cares? Does it bother you that much to have somebody like you to where you have to make everyone watching feel uncomfortable and aware that you don't care about them at all?

>>49056390
>>49056397
>>49056436
Rent free

>>49056496
Is it normal that I read that in Jason Statham's voice? It feels like something he'd say.

>>49055803
Anon you are earning more than you kidneys in gift cards.

>>49056390
>>49056397
>>49056496
Now look at the rest of it too.
>>49050699
>>49050652
She provides the context for why she feels she shouldn't befriend her fans soon after. Assuming your reading comprehension is functional that is

>>49056496
It means she probably got a really bad stretch of extremely creepy or hostile interactions with saplings or some random corner of her egosearching online and needed to vent and tell those losers to fuck off

>>49055741
I'm more than friends with fauna
Imagine not getting hearted everytime

>>49055741
She said nothing wrong? She was never your friend do you consider the guys and girls you watch in movies your friend too? What's even sad is having to hear it from her mouth as if you morons are clueless children. She's just an entertainer. You didn't needed her to say it is something you mofos should've already known. What a bunch of embarrassing retards.

I want to be her husband not her friend.

>>49056556
Sounds like the exact same "improve yourself" advice Ame gave that's been living rent-free in this board's head for months.

>>49056566
She got a really obnoxious troll SC from this guy who got banned by kronii. Alexander something, I think his name is

>>49056496
You retards keep using this analogy, but it's just a bad analogy.

The correct analogy is if you went up to Robert Downy Jr. in real life and went like "Mr. Stark, Mr. Stark, can you teach me how to make the ironman suit?" and he went "kid, I'm just an actor."

Which, would be a reasonable response lmao.

>>49056556
Feelings that basically boil down to you shouldn't imagine yourself to be friends with a girl in your screen you should get real friends instead.

>>49056644
But what if the kid had Down syndrome and cancer? It would be soul crushing to tell that kid the truth. Metaphors are dumb.

>>49056602
Looks like I assumed too much. Let me try that again: she basically says that she doesn't want to show her fanbase anything that isn't her best side, because that's what they love about her, the side she shows on stream. Saplings find Fauna perfect and she doesn't want to ruin their image by befriending them, that's the boundary that she believes there should be between an entertainer and their fans.
...Then again if your reading comprehension is that bad, what good will it do for me to write this

>>49056602
It's the exact opposite advice. Her advice is only being offered on the good faith that someone wants it. She's giving you advice to make friends if you want friends and she's explaining how to get the most out of watching streamers (knowing that's what you're actually going to do). None of her comments are offensive if you don't have friends and have no intention on working to get them.

>>49056543
I kind of hybrided it with Chris Pratt and Keanu Reeves myself. Probably because I've seen Mario and John Wick recently.
>>49056566
But it's not really necessary is it? I saw a video today of Mark Hamill being bombarded by fans shoving posters, fliers etc in his face while he's in his car and someone ends up smacking him in the eye. Do you think he'll be bitching about fans publicly going "I'll NEVER like you guys!" or do you think he just said "fuck's sake" and kept going about his business? I've got no delusions about chuubas, I'll never meet them and I don't expect anything else. It's the lack of professionalism and willingness to express dislike for the viewers that gets to me. It just reeks of "fuck you, pay me" and I HATE that attitude.

>>49056602
One of them is telling someone to improve themselves the other is telling you, "you're nothing but income in my bank account because I'm just an entertainer." Not even close. But nice try at trying to shift blame to ame.

>>49056672
You're saying these schizos have Down syndrome and are cancerous? I agree completely.

>>49056556
This is not the win you think it is. Admitting that you are fake and that your relationship with your viewers is not "real" (whatever that means in the internet age) violates basic social etiquette. It's particularly audacious given that she makes bank off of maintaining that very pretence.

>>49056644
>kid I'm just an actor
is a lot different than
>you can see me in a movie so get the fuck away from me

>>49056695
Yeah she says that she's playing an act and that your irl friends are your actual friends and not her, because she's an actress and your irl friends are not (and if you don't have some, get some), and that what you've got with her isn't real friendship. Which is what Ame told everyone. Why is it ok for Fauna to say this but the yab to end all yabs when Ame says it? Fucking dumb ass mudhut tribesman.

>>49056702
Ame's wasn't offensive in the fact that she was legitimately wanting her fan base to get up and exercise every now and then but here we are today.
Look, I get you personally are trying to act in good faith but some (or many idk) will intentionally misconstrue the meaning for their shitpost.
All it takes is 1, maybe 2 monkeys to circlejerk each other before others follow suit for the fuck of it.
Personally I'd just be ready to ignore any retard that decides to eat it up.

>>49050699
>My friends are cooler than you?
Ok so that explains it. She was seething.

>>49056496
>Men are easy, just be nice to them
As much as I hate NijiZH, Nina was right. But I guess women are just evil.

>>49056777
There's a big difference between telling your audience they are all a bunch of fucking wastes of oxygen outside of the money they give you when they expect you to do your job and telling them that if they want fulfillment in life, there are better avenues than expecting them to do more than their job.

>>49056731
>>49056777
Because you're a retard who can't understand anything even when it's explained to you, as the last sentence assumed.

>>49056750
Is the same shit. Fauna doesn't exist in real life she just a character played by a voice actress are you going to start going full retard and try to twist reality to fit your own schizophrenic argument? I thought sea faggots like you were supposed to be smart.

>>49056842
Concession accepted

>>49056872
Confession admonished

>>49056829
It's the ones that pretend to be nice. Trust me. I dated a girl who was an uwu softgirl like Fauna. She was a fucking CUUUUNNNNNTTTTT with no emotions. Like it almost seemed inhuman at the end how cold she was like a lightswitch.
As much shit as Mori gets on here, she's a good one. What you see is what you get. She doesn't try to convince you that she's a pure innocent precious pwincess just to spit in your face, that's one thing I like about her. Fauna I could see for a mile through from the start just from my experience with those kinds of girls.

imagine having an oshi who doesn't constantly tell you how much she loves you

For those who don't know what's being talked about, here is the here is text iof the second half of what she said so people can judge by themselves.
Timestamp is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgCHZbylmus&t=12119, this part starts down the line

>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think hat necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are

>Fauna is mean in real life?
>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know

>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close
>Anyway, I hope that is okay, I know, I know, don't be sad, cherish your friends because they are just as cool as streamers I promise.
>I promise they are

>There's nothing particularly special about streamers, I mean like sure maybe there's a streamer and they're great at singing but does that make them a better friend, no, it doesn't
>someone can be a great friend even if they aren't great at singing

>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so
>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.

>I mean obviously streamers have friends.
>And I'm sure sometimes people have made friends with streamers and it workout out, but you know

>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun

>yeah exactly, the great part of streaming is interaction.
>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.
>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.

>I think I would've had a harder time be a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm
>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guy...
>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

Seems very uncontroversial. What's the fuss all about?

>>49056866
>can't read
>defaulting to calling me sea in US wakey hours
You didn't 3 sentences to say "sorry"

>>49056708
I can't see Keanu Reeves being mean to anyone, he's way too nice. The worst he'd say is "Why do you cum?"
>>49056829
Nina is honestly alright in my eyes, and she's the only streamer than I know of that straight up said what everyone was thinking in that all it takes to keep guys around as a woman is being nice. That said, a majority of women are too evil/retarded to even do that.

Be careful out there saplings.

>>49056806
Lmao so burgers are pissed at ame because she told them to go exercise get the self cleaned up and touch grass? Where's the harm in that? That's how you end up with finding a woman. Obsessing and falling in love with anime avatars is not normal.

>>49056938
kek it was more the John Wick character tbonions
I pictured him spitting out blood through clenched teeth while saying it

>>49056915
>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so
>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.
If you take just this part out, it wouldn't come off as seething. Something ticked her off and started this rant, and while I'm personally sane enough to know this is gonna be a one time thing, many will misread into this further than I and take it as complete vitriol for her fanbase, intentionally or not.

The specific relation you have to someone matters. You could he the handsomest, smartest, strongest, most successful gigachad ever, and you biological sibling wouldn't want to fuck you. If your relationship with someone is fan-streamer, that's just not much to go on, especially when you're both probably very different people in real life. Even if you don't mean to be.

>>49056835
>Amelia Watson: hit the gym, make friends, and be happy
>Schizo tribalfags: wtf man did she just call me a waste of oxygen??
>Fauna: none of this shit is real go make friends irl
>Schizo tribalfags: omg bestie so true!!
Ooga booga

>>49056915
Nijiniggers trying to deflect the 1% ya be, what else?

>Audience: Entertainer, why aren't you entertaining us anymore?
>Enterainer: Kill yourself ATM, you're supposed to be funding my entertainment faggot.

>Audience: Entertainer, why don't you become my own personal friend?
>Entertainer: Well [emotional child or adult with serious mental issues], I'm just here to entertain you when you need it. You need to use the appropriate avenues to get lasting help if that's what you really want.

Learn the difference. Council has both represented so it shouldn't be hard to compare and contrast.

>>49056950
Last time I answered this the responses were along the lines of
>I don't want her advice, I just want an escape and she's breaking that

>>49056496
>where you have to make everyone watching feel uncomfortable
This is the mystifying part, the guy literally asked do you think your fans are just simps? And she felt the need to dignify it with a response and even told him he was asking a "deep" question because he prefaced it with the Griffith quote lmao.
That she was blunt enough to say not only we cannot be friends but we also SHOULD not is just the faceplant after the stumble that was giving him the time of day in the first place.

>>49056829
Has Nina ever disparaged her fans like this? The honey shit always sounded as fake as Fauna to me.

>>49057021
>In the fat American's mind, being told to get fit is tantamount to suicide
Lamao

>>49055741
thanks to this fauna has forfeited her chumbud privileges
fucking whore should stay in her lane with the rest of the ethots of holoEN
this is why gura remains supreme

>>49056915
Mommy vtuber treating her fans like kids, caring for them? Is something wrong with this?

>>49056994
I'm not going to listen to it, but it's pretty obvious this one comes off wrong in text but not in person. It only makes sense as something for her to say if she's reading it in chat. So she's reading someone else telling her that their friends are cooler than her, not that they are telling her that her friends are cooler than them.

>>49056928
Triggered he was told the truth. She's not your friend she's not your girlfriend and she's definitely not your mommy, time for you to accept it and move on. You're fingering your anus and flicking shit crumbs at the wall over a voice actress telling you something your retarded ass should've already known.

>>49055741
Cucklings editing her speech in /#/ deflection thread.

>>49057075
>Gura
Who? I don't think I've seen that chuuba streaming before, is she Holo, Niji, or one of the smaller corpos like Phase or Idol?

>>49056915
If you are going to transcribe it don't leave out the part where she actually starts answering the question and says the
>We cannot, should not be friends
line and just leave in all the inoffensive rambling afterwards

>>49057059
I didn't mention Myth. Stop reading your insecurities into everything.

>>49057107
This guy's got reading comprehension so bad, I'm starting to think he's black
>I've got no delusions about chuubas, I'll never meet them and I don't expect anything else. It's the lack of professionalism and willingness to express dislike for the viewers that gets to me. It just reeks of "fuck you, pay me" and I HATE that attitude

>>49055741
Nijinig thought streamer are their friends, i guess they are really retarded. Even pewdiepie explain the relationship between a streamer and his chat and that when i was in my teen, damn i guess im more mature than nijinig.
So what the cope now nijinig, is she gonna lose viewership or losing sc?

>>49057107
Ah so it’s a vtuber hating kiwitranny or a fat lolcow instigating

>>49057138
>all the inoffensive rambling afterwards
But that's the core of her message, and the shortest summary for it

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>Please take care of yourselves.

>>49055741
>completly misrepresenting the very innocent quote
>trying to stir up shit and drama

Yeah, must be /vt/ and a certain type of "people" waking up (starts with S end with EA).

>>49057104
There's also the part where whoever transcribed that left out a part where she says
>we cannot be friends, we should not be friends
but yeah, wonder why that anon missed that part.

>>49057012
The difference between being combative with your audience because you see yourself as better than them and being gentle with them because you wrongly took them on good faith makes a big difference in these scenarios, yes. If you weren't autistic, you would be able to understand how normal humans read things like body language and tone.

What concerns me is who is behind making all these threads? Saplings aren't making them they don't care... so who is behind this and why di they feel like they need to defend Nijisanji?

Just because something is true, doesn't mean you're supposed to say it. Anyone who isn't a dysfunctional autist understands this

>>49057126
my heart misses her but she hasnt broken it so nice try
going on 3 years and she remains the queen, yab-free, cute and funny sex machine
saplings now go in the cuck zone with the rest of them

>>49057251
Backpedaling since you were exposed as a vtuber hater instigating drama and shitting up this board?

>>49057290
>now

>>49057234
I mean, the first part is just obvious. With exceedingly few exceptions, translating being someone's fan into being their friend cannot be done. And she did a good job explaining why it's just not a solid foundation for friendship. There's more reliable ways to befriend people

>>49057075
Gura doesn't even want to stream lmao at least fauna streams for her fans. Up your ass cumbuds.

>STREAMERS AND VIEWERS ARE NOT FRIENDS, SHOULDN'T, AND CANNOT BE
>proceed to befriend Gura anyways
She can't even stay true to her own advice.

>>49056708
Hollywood actors also aren't reading chat from their fans for 5+ hours on the daily. They hit the read carpet, see all the schizos, go "yes yes honey that's nice," leave the red carpet, and go about their day. Celebrities can, and often do, make public statements to their fans reminding them of personal boundaries if they get break-ins and stuff, and of them telling schizo fans to fuck off (politely or not) if they accost them in the grocery store or some shit. The latest case I can remember is some F1 driver making a statement on Twitter because his home address was leaked or something. Furthermore, Hollywood actors have literally been groomed since childhood for this, and livestreamers are amateurs without the formal and extremely unethical training for dealing with this. Livestreamers are also a different matter because you're basically stuck in a room with those schizos all day everyday getting cabin fever instead of limited "official" interactions and impromptu interactions where they have the freedom to tell the schizoids to fuck off.

>>49057201
Same message as Ame
>you guys should go outside, improve yourselves
>dont waste time on me
>Id be happier if you guys were out there getting fit and not neglecting yourselves
Guess where we are in the crazy vt train now.

>>49057334
>for her fans
She streams for money, not out of the goodness of her heart

>>49057290
It's pretty easy to remain yab-free by simply not streaming or interacting with anyone. Go watch real cute and funny sex machines like Panko or Fuyo instead.

>>49057256
But she didn't say the hard truth part at all. She dodged the question entirely to say inoffensive truisms that bother no one. The hard truth was that hierachies are essential to human well-being and society would crumble without them. However, the notion that people choosing to simp over Fauna means she is in a hierachy above them is laughable. Only once she makes enough money from them giving it all to her does she become above them and even then they never will encounter her in that capacity and it's unlikely she currently lives in that capacity and it could all crumble soon enough. It's not a guaranteed long-term change in social status in her case.

>>49057251
Mostly polcels where you been the past few months?

>>49057256
So you like being lied to then? And you're one of those who calls other people cucks lmao.

>>49057349
Calm down finana, you can suck on your friend in discord later.

>>49056950
Because self-improvement is a non-answer or in some cases increadibly insulting.

Some people got fucked by life, short men, ugly women, shy men, etc.
No amount of touching grass is going to make you taller or more beautiful and the amount of effort people with real social anxiety have to put into just having small talk makes advice like improve yourself insulting and condescending.

Also, no amount of self improvement is going to suddenly make the people around you into people that you want to be friends with or want tot date.

>>49057398
who
lmao
stay mad
stay crying

>>49057361
That's every streamer now find me one that will stream like 5 hours day to a bunch of mentally ill incels for free? Are you retarded.

>>49057251
Here who they want to deflect

Jesus, if you continue the stream it's pretty fucked to see him devolve into a stuttering nervous mess trying ultra hard to change the topic when someone in chat says "Are you allowed to say that".
It's like an "I'm gonna tell your parents" moment to kindergartners.

https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4345 [Open]
> Wait does Niji merch have international shipping costs? I didn't know. I've never ordered anything.
> "Yes" - chat. *laughs* GET FUCKED IDIOTS! You guys are getting fucked over, while I'm sitting here in YOUR money!
> I'm just kidding bro I get like one percent from merch sales. I ain't getting shit. Fuck man I'm getting scammed myself. Maaan. Whatever.
> I wish I was joking. Anyway.
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4401 [Open]
> *realizes he fucked up and starts diverting* what else is there to talk about bro? I dunno how to talk *jokes around*!
> "Are you allowed to say that?" - chat
> *silence*
> *serious voice* Uhhh, yo, I'm just kidding, I actually earn 99% of- you know what I'm just kidding, none of the values I said are true values okay?
> I've never *stutters* none of the values I said are true, all of them are fake values that I just made up.
> I would never even SAY how much I earn percentage-wise for merch *devolves into gibberish*
https://youtu.be/ov_oeUWOAqA?t=4463 [Open]
> "'Legally I must say I was lying about percentage earnings' moment" - chat
> Exactly! I WAS lying! You guys will never know the actual amount I earn.
> "Welcome back man, hope you had a nice break." - Ren. Hey, THANKS Ren.
> Yea Ren, tell 'em. We earn.. uh.. you know what don't tell 'em anything actually, what am I talking about.
> We don't earn ANYTHING! In fact, streamers don't earn money.
> In fact, every time you donate to me, we don't earn- actually, that's also bad to say, I DO earn money, the money does go to me that you send to me.
> Fuck. I need to shut up. Let's have a new topic, please, thank you. Yes?
> Someone say something, I need a switch right now, RIGHT NOW.
> Why has my chat froze? LET ME GET ANOTHER TOPIC! WHY HAS MY CHAT FROZE !? PLEASE !

>>49056915
Dunno doesn't seem controversial to me. I was just as surprised to the reaction when people started to paint Elira as some money grubbing whore who hates her fans or whatever when she said she's not friends on a personal level with her audience and that makes it difficult for her to speak up when she's doesn't like something.

>>49057499
Damn niji defense force just throw anything to deflect from catalog.

>>49056632
post the SC

>>49057201
Nobody serious is saying the advice she had to offer was wrong or denying the obvious reality that you don't have a personal one on one relationship with vtubers. There was nothing wrong with the similar kind of advice Ame gave during improve yourself.

It's the part where she felt the need to say anything at all in response to a shitstirrer or give the unwarranted reality check to her fanbase she is supposed to make "feel" loved and appreciated at the very least on the level of friends even if it's not technically true.

You think Fubuki should stop and remind her viewers every so often too?
>No wife okay friend friend!
>Actually no not even that, I am a talent under hololive productions here simply to entertain
>Look to your own community for succour
>It has to be this way it is for the best

>>49056777
Jfc, this retard.

>>49056496
>What do you think the end goal is here?
step 1 purge the fanbase of unicorns
step 2 collab with males because it's more fun
you think a millionaire gives a shit about some incel's feelings?

So everyone hates Ame just for saying "improve yourself", but Fauna goes on for 10 minutes lecturing her fans and everyone is just white knighting her?

>>49057540
I actually don't have an image of it. Does anyone else?

>>49057354
One of the first youtubers I ever subscribed to got shot by one of her fans years after I'd forgotten her. My problem with most of the EN Holos and probably even Holos in general if I looked at them closely is they tend to do exactly what Fauna did in this case which is coddle their genuine schizos and then act like they aren't part of the problem. It's disingenuous to complain about things that you did. Most Holos aren't alienating the schizos, they are alienating the normal people who think that schizo shit they do in their hours-long superchat readings is really weird and cringe.

>>49057582
It's different, she hasn't collabed with Tempiss.

>>49057450
And your issues are other people problem because? I understand if you were born with a birth defect. But this is not the case here. These are people who know they have problems but won't do a damned thing about their issues and instead wants to be accepted as is. You can't help those who can't help themselves.

>>49057246
Bitch, you're watching a live2D avatar instead of a fleshtuber and you're talking about body language? It's the exact same message, but I guess because mommy voice delivers it with some uuuuus in between it no longer counts as attacking your audience. You 60 IQ subhuman.

>>49057600
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0490/28/1683595449983300.png

>>49057600 me
Found it
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0490/49/1683616387332426.png

>>49057582
Ironic isn't.

Every day I feel like im not enough. At school, work, or with friends, im never enough. I never win, never get anything but shit on. So when I go to my escapism to the little anime girl on my computer where I cant fuck up, where for a few hours a week I feel a fake sense of love and belonging, just to be told “we cant be friends” hurts more than she will ever know. Something this small hurts so much coming from her, the person I go to for comfort and to get away from not being enough and not being loved, even if it is all just a fake emotional crutch in my head. She just walked up behind me and took it away. Im never enough at school, work, with friends, and when I’m watching Fauna as well.

>>49057629
I was able to read you from your post, yes. It's actually quite easy. Calm down and stop trying to make this about your goddess Ame, she isn't even the topic of conversation and you can't change the past no matter how hard you cry.

>>49057582
It's different, saplings are retarded gfe cucks who uuuuuuuuuuu while her bf rails her while ame's viewers are fat sweaty tryhard fps autists. Please understand.

>>49055803
Mommy is covered in ants...

>>49057582
/vt/ has always been a board where a person who isn't well liked will say something and be shit on for it but someone who is liked says the same thing and people will defend it to no end. Who is saying something matters much more than what they are saying.

>>49057675
It's going to be ok, anon.

>>49057614
>And your issues are other people problem because?
Because if you are going to give advice than you need to actually give real advice and not just boomer platitudes. No amount of giving firm handshakes is going to get you a job.

If you don't have real advice then shut up.

>>49055741
Mommy is just saying that to get the antis off her back

>>49057450
> i have depression, I have autism, I am short, I got fat genes, i'm having a panic attack
holy victim batman. when did pretending to be mentally/physically ill become such a trend

>>49057582
>everyone hates Ame
>everyone is white knighting Fauna
Neither of these are true. Teammates show up in Ame threads just like the saplings are showing up here.

>>49055741
fuck off ESLtard

>>49057681
t. ex-teamate who jumped ship to Fauna and is now trying to come up with excuses for why it doesn't count this time

>>49056119
How is this an issue? Some of you fags latch onto everything. She isnt insulting her fans like Kronii or Ame did.

>>49057718
Wow, you've finally learned how normal human beings operate. It turns out context does matter when something is said.

>>49055741
As a sampling I feel like the only one who got offended by this is those who don't really watch her lol
I honestly don't find what she says offending or anything until I visited /vt/.

This just feels like a deflection thread for that 1%

If fauna had collabed with a tempiss faggot then said this you know the same people here polishing their armor and shields would be crucifying her worse than ame since to their retarded ideology of her being "le last bastion of purity" cdgct trope they love talking about.

>>49057801
They've spent the past 3hours spamming and getting banned on /#/ please understand this means alot to them

>>49057735
> i am special! I need a miracle to fix me! there is no way I am just being lazy and not trying!

which one of these affect you >>49057758

>>49057801
Just stop. The truth is that neither Kronii or Ame insulted their fans either unless you're a schizo.

>>49057812
>Wow, you've finally learned how normal human beings operate.
This is how extremely small and petty people operate. The fact that you think is normal exposes you terrible of a person you are.

>>49057818
>As a sampling

>>49055741
Wtf So this was the reason there are so many Nijisanji anti threads in the catalog kek.

>>49057818
The same could be said for teammates and what Ame said.
Everyone not used to Ame took offense.
Just turns out Ame non viewers have a louder mouth.
Who will have the louder mouth for this? Saplings? Antis?

>>49057768
It doesn't count because she is homostar-free.

The moment she gets too close to the homos is the moment Fauna gets absolutely destroyed by her fans because they have a lot against her, they just chose to ignore it unless it gets too big.
It will be worse than Kronii shitstorm.

>>49057831
>I should be allowed to purposely offend people who I consider to be beneath me but then also get upset when they are offended.
You can't have it both ways. Nobody criticizes the behavior of alienating others you dislike, it's the crying about it after that's disingenuous and scummy as fuck.

>>49057836
>Improve yourself.
>Implies theres something that needs improving.
Maybe you should improve your IQ.

>>49057851
Fuck autocorrect.

>>49057871
Mental illness

>>49057450
>ugly
Just get plastic surgery, every gook does it so why can't other uglies?
>short
Again, surgery
>anxiety
Therapy and/or living with the pain and crushing and choking sensation in your chest as you force yourself to socialize until it goes away
>no amount of self improvement is going to suddenly make the people around you into people that you want to be friends with or want to date
Find new people
There's solutions for everything and some may be drastic or difficult in the short/mid-term but if you aren't going to try and improve your life regardless of the shit card(s) you were dealt with, then who is? Besides, what alternative is there?

>>49057836
Okay, Ame you could you MAYBE argue (I'd love to actually see an attempt) but you are an absolute bellend or deluded nutcase if you think Kronii didn't insult her fans.

>>49057882
The full context of Ame's quote was to not make her your entire life because she's just here for entertainment, and instead to channel even some of that obsessive energy into making friends, exercise, and other basic IRL stuff. That's literally what Fauna said.

>>49057882
Ame didn't even say improve yourselves. She said, improve yourselves so that you get over your insecurity about homocollabs. She may as well have said "become someone who doesn't care about male collabs"

>>49056891
Constellation acquired.

the startling number of saplings in this thread who want to pay fauna to keep lying to them, galactic-scale cucks abound itt

The lesson to learn from this is there's no escape. Your escapism into the soft-spoken mommy vtuber's streams does not solve any issues with your life, and it never will. The only thing it does is delay the inevitable crash of reality catching up to you. And the longer you delay, the worse this crash will be. If you're schizo enough to get your world shattered when a person who only knows you as a mildly crazy talking wallet tells you to stop, you really need to stop before you drive yourself into doing a KyoAni to some poor girl's house. Get some fucking help.

>>49055741
ok sister, you have no power here
fag

>>49057836
Ame handle it better than kronii tho. Kronii flat out called them fuckin virgins when she asked if they had friends of the opposite gender lmao kronii was fuckin based.

>>49057951
we know who the first and true sapling is anyway, everyone else is just ATMs and "not a friend"

>>49057847
It matters if the person telling you to pull your pants up is your mother, your teacher or some stranger on the street. It matters if the person telling you that you look ugly is your daughter, your best friend or your employee. Context always matters far more than the specific words. Which is why people can get in legal trouble for saying things that are implied rather than explicit for example.

>>49057951
>in this thread
Look at the stream's comment section.

This is the most normal response I seen, I don't know why there's so many threads uppity about this when is just nothing.
I am starting to believe that people that "cares" about this nothingburger is just people trying to stir up shit out of thin air and nothing more, like c'mon bro.

Dont care, still love Fauna

>>49056119
this is healthy.

>>49058021
based cuckbro

>>49058018
Today anon learned what kiwitrannies are

>>49057932
So you admit she said what everyone says she said? You just admitted she thinks preferring things her way makes you a better person because she's a better person than you.

>>49056556
I love fauna as an entaintment person not as an actual person

>>49057951
I'd gladly shower supas for her to continue showing her only her best to me.

>>49058018
Exact same thing out of what Ame said except shitposters won.
Who knew

Is anyone who's upset about this actually a sapling?

Shes your sister, sapling. She cant be your friend. Shes your fuckbuddy on lonely friday nights.

>>49057831
None, I just hate people that make money by praying on the vulnerable and insecure by bating them into forming prasocial bonds and then start blaming them for being vulnerable and insecure for forming those bonds.

>>49057899
>Let them eat cake.

>>49058018
>going on a 10 minute spiel because someone quoted Griffith
>normal

>>49058018
I can't believe a bunch of unicorns can be as retarded as women.

>>49058072
Just stop lying. Fauna's comment is out of nowhere because it was in response to just some random schizo out of nowhere. Ame's comment was in context of an already ongoing drama that she was happily stirring up. And by the way, Ame doesn't regret her comment or how it was intrepreted so you getting so upset on her behalf is emabarrassing.

>>49057994
This is a really weird attempt at a counterargument because both Ame and Fauna have the same job with the same place in your life and thus their messaging comes with the same context, with the only difference being that Ame specifically telling you to hit the gym as part of her life advice is really weirdly extremely fucking triggering to you (even though it's perfectly valid advice) and Fauna just said to make friends irl

>>49058021
Same. Uuuu

>>49058072
>>49058057
I don't even watch or really care about Fauna but this brainrot of a board is just too embarrassing sometimes bro.

>>49058061
I think it's reductive to say not having some problem makes you better than them.

>>49058098
>Let them eat cake.
Marie Antoinette never actually said that btw.

>>49058161
What do you think improvement means?

>>49057874
your in luck, I don't think your beneath me.
I am a lazy person. I don't blame it on anxiety or by saying self-improvement doesn't work. If someone says I should work out to improve themselves I just tell them I am comfortable as is

>>49058098
nothing wrong with this. i agree here

>>49058132
read >>49058143
The only difference is one told you what to do and you didn't like it.

>>49058102
She could have dodged that bait supa and just taken the money instead she went on a 10min lecture on why she is not your friend. To an audience of friendless losers.

Textbook woman moment.
They think people watching them are there for their talent and not because they are female.

>>49058143
>context is irrelevant when I decide because it is
>let's pretend these situations are the same because they are okay!
I genuinely don't understand what you are getting out of this? Just dodging reality.

>>49058098
>then start blaming them for being vulnerable and insecure for forming those bonds.
NTA but where was anyone blamed for being vulnerable

>>49058177
In this context, being better than you were before.

>>49056119
not this shit again
first Ame, then kronii and now Fauna

will i ever find a chuuba who's confortable with having parasocials supporting her?

>>49058098
That's the reason I shit on gfe in general. Taking advantage of mentally ill lonely people for money is scummy. And people shouldn't try to replace reality with fiction sooner or later it's bound to catch up on to them. I understand they need and see a friend in the streamer but in the same light they need to understand that, you're just fan and will always be just that a fan.

>>49058229
Except they are?
What context was Ame's again? Wanting her chat to not waste too much time on her and go and exercise?
What's Fauna's context? Not waste too much time on her and make some irl friends.
You're just intentionally putting on the blinders for one because you like her while taking full offense from the other because you dislike her.
Context is the same.

>>49056602
Yeah but Ame was just bullshitting because she wanted to collab with males.

>>49058098
Based

Am i the only one who respects fauna for saying something like this? It shows that she is a decent human being and cares for her fans.

>>49058264
No, they're just ungrateful garbage that can't even pretend to be anime girls.

Look at all these regular everyday people who took no notice of the yab, i bet half of them just closed the stream without saying goodbye once the minecraft window went away

Anon-kun, never feel the pain of a man-hating womanchuuba backstabbing you ever again

take the normie pill

Imagine disliking Fauna, couldn't be me

>>49058373
No, I think the vast majority of people interpreted her like that. Correctly, I think.

>>49058229
I'm telling you that all the "context" you're shitposting about are layers of cope and "that doesn't count" to disguise the fact that Chuuba B (who you like) is now saying the same thing as Chuuba A (who you don't like) and your brain is inventing reasons why the two situations are different so you can continue hating A for saying the same thing as B.

Ame said multiple times on stream that she's not fucking the homostars and sees all her fellow holoENs as professional acquaintances, and finally snaps and says that the deranged cuckposters who were anting her should use that energy to go out and make friends.
Fauna gets a SC message from a deranged shitposter who's already been banned by multiple other ENs and it causes her to finally snap and go on a giant tangent about how these friendships are fake and that you should go outside and touch grass if you want real friendships.

The only measurable difference in these situations is how your own personal insecurities react to the specific things they're saying

>>49056672
Analogies are not the problem here, you're just fucking retarded. If I said that jogging is good for you, only an absolute imbecile would ask "WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE LEGS???" in good faith. You're not making a valuable point, you're just wasting everyone's time with your inane bullshit.

>>49058370
>Telling people that if they seethe and mald over males they need to improve their lives
Nothing bullshit about this statement

>>49056644
But anon, people run up to actors and get hugs and their photo taken all the time.

>>49058388
Fans will never voice their concerns in public with a name attached to them.

Only on /vt/ they can say something without getting banned/deleted/dogpiled by yesmen.

>>49058443
If you can’t tell that I was being sarcastic, that’s your fault bro.

>>49058466
It was just a soulless excuse, she was just throwing a tantrum and had no explanation for why her content needed to involve random males.

>>49055741
It's fucking hilarious how lukewarm this is compared to 1% which happened at the same time rumao.
Nijifags just can't catch a break KEK

>>49058195
I mean, I'm glad you are more mature than the type of people in Holo's chats but you're definitely misunderstanding things if you think I am offended by anything they've said because it applies to me. In most cases (though not all) I think of these young streamers as beneath me, or at least my equal. Ame saying "improve yourself" doesn't offend me personally because I can remember when I was as immature as her and loved conflict. What bothers me is the way their bad behavior harms the even younger people they are actually able to influence and it's aggravating to me when they are immature for their age and influence. Like I can empathize with being a terrible person like Ame or Kronii when I was young, but I hurt way less people and tried to be better and I didn't have a bunch of enablers encouraging my bad behavior. I don't get shed a tear when a drugged up teenage influencer dies alone in the gutter but if I saw their leeches encouraging them to go that route while they were still alive, I'd be bothered.

>>49058531
Nice try. If you didn't add "Metaphors are dumb" in the end I might've believed you.

>>49058264
Kiara loves parasocials and it's fucking disgusting. Fauna is the happy medium.

>>49058551
>Soulless excuse
Whatever that's supposed to mean what she said still holds true
>throwing a tantrum
She wasn't
>no explanation for why her content needed to involve random males
Are you retarded? Do you really need to be talked down about why a Collab with males would have males in it?

>>49058335
It's becoming harder to tell if you're an Ame simp or a Fauna anti becuase the context you leave out of both could go either way.

>>49058622
kys egg

>>49058517
>Only on /vt/ they can say something without getting banned/deleted/dogpiled by yesmen
I mean...some chubbas have had dedicated jannies for years and camp threads all day and night just to ban anybody who badmouths their oshi. I think we all know who

>>49057951
>"keep lying to them"
>this entire "yab" is about her being too honest

>>49057675
Sounds like a "you" problem, anon. Just because things are shit now doesn't mean they will always be shit. It's because Fauna cares about her viewers as humans that she wants them to make fulfilling, real friendships. She can still be there for you when you're lonely, but you have to remind yourself she's not speaking to you directly and she's just trying to entertain an audience.

>>49058622
Kiara doesn’t even do Valentine streams that involve her fans. She focuses it on other Hololive members.

>>49058586
This. Influencers are evil and are ruining the youth.

>>49058574
get a friend, loser KEK

Actually what fauna said wasn't bad because I have all these smug reaction images of her I use while calling the other girls whores and I don't want the shitposting meta to change

>>49058700
>Fauna cares about her viewers as humans
>humans
ATM

>>49058439
Where did you get this idea that Fauna snapped and went on a tangent about fake friendships? That's not what she did at all. She treated the chat too respectfully, she shouldn't have replied at all but she replied as if it was a genuine fan and not a troll which is the opposite of famous examples of someone snapping and going on a rant (like say Mori with Connor).

>>49057951
Her GFE mommy schtick wouldn't work at all if she didn't lie constantly

>>49058173
I know, Marie Antoinette was a beloved queen untill a certain tribe started lying about her character in the media.

But the saying fits, just get 50000 dollar surgery is not realistic advice for 99% of people.

>>49058246
That's what the improve yourself meme implies. It's basically blaming the victim for falling for your parasocial bait.

>>49058264
Parasocials + time = dangerous schizos. No one is going to take that gamble on her own life. For your oshi's health, I hope you never ever find one that's cool with you.

this „drama” wont last 3 days

>>49058752
you hate mori, Ame and Kroni but love Fauna so she can do no wrong.
We get it.

>>49058749
Obviously, they're a source of her income. That's not a debate. But the point is she's not being malicious when she's saying this. She's probably encountered creeps, for one, and she also just wants to provide happiness through her content, nothing more.

>>49058752
Mori's response to the Connor SC had almost nothing in common with this. Or whatever this is accused of being.

>>49058794
>50000 dollar
lol no, it's more than that
that anon is fucking retarded

>>49058826
That's literally what I said.

>>49058821
I criticized Fauna for doing wrong in the comment you replied to retard.

>>49058839
I take issue with the suggestion that mori said anything outrageous though. If that wasn't there, fair enough

>>49058821
I dont hate any of them, Why are you projecting what you think on people without knowing.

They are entertainers.

Nijitroons and other subhumans on this board have been seething at Fauna for fucking months, constantly waiting for a slip or some sort of yab.
Honestly I don't care. Fauna is based and the only reason I still give a fuck about Vtubers.

>>49058883
>yab

>>49058883
>t. Condomling

Mori sholud entertaine my dick

>>49058883
based cuckCHAD

>>49058697
Correct, lying as in keeping up the charade that she's your internet mommy

Guess I have to spoonfeed you all now since she's trying to ween you off the tit

>>49056915
>The great part of streaming is interaction.
>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.
>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.

>I think I would've had a harder time be a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm
>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guy...
>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

Sounds just like what a caring mother would say. Is this the reason they call her "mommy" or something? Not familiarized with Fauna's lore or streams

Why is it always SEAmonkies who make these threads?

Is it because their shtity island hovels?

>>49058931
>hornyposting
/vt/ is healing

>>49058883
SIMPLING WON

>>49058697
People get pissed off at Kiara for being too honest all the time. It’s nothing new. Most of the time it’s not a yab.

Streamers telling their fans to not be parasocial and to get some help is like fans telling streamers to take a break and not overwork themselves.

>>49058881
There were multiple Connor superchats so I don't know which one you are thinking of but I was referring to the initial one as an example of someone taking a bait superchat and then going into a completely unnecessary rant [which then began the week of drama] while in a setting where if it hadn't gotten leaked because of the rant, the only people who were even around to see it were her fans. The substance of what she said is irrelevant, it's an actual example of the thing he was claiming Fauna did when Fauna did the opposite.

>>49058978

>>49059035
A sound advice that will inevitably fall on deaf ears until it's too late?

>>49059035
>Don't be parasocial, just give me money and shut up

>>49057246
Cope Faunacuck.
Ame did nothing wrong.

>>49059039
I thought you were referring to the initial one, the one from the member's stream. The only thing she said about that that was dumb was the whole "I'll donate whatever amount you to to the person you badmouth" thing.

>>49058970
This is all you need to know about why they call her mommy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP0DidlV33k

>>49058752
>Where did you get the idea of Fauna snapping and going on a tangent about fake friendships from her reading a troll SC and launching into a 5 minute long talk about how your friendship with her isn't real and if you want real friendships you need to go outside?
I don't even disagree with what she said, I just think it's sad as fuck to see how hard people will defend this after other chuubas have been crucified for delivering the exact same message. Literally the lowest form of human behavior.

>>49059102 me
You're right though, it was unnecessary

It's fine I can very easily gaslight myself into believing her comments don't apply to me. You simply need to embrace your delusions it's really very easy.

>>49059120
>when I see something I agree with, I spend all my time trying to fight against it because hypocrisy sucks!
Okay. Thanks for clarifying.

>>49059015
this whore should be more honest about the time she doxxed subaru and possibly some other holos

>>49059163
If you think that was the point of my post then you need to stop posting on this website until you're old enough to know how to read properly.

>>49059183
Okay guys. This is what actual schizophrenia looks like.

>>49059159
If you think her comments do apply to you, you're definitely retarded and beyond hope anyway.

>>49056119
>says all that
>heart pupil eyes
>main shtick is mommy GFE asmr
>ready to drain money from lonely simps at a moment's notice
KEK this bitch

>>49059183
Nice headcanon.

>>49059216
You don't think fauna believes that her fans deserve real relationships that make them happy?

>>49059225
She's pure evil.

>>49058918
>>49058964
>>49058992
Fauna being one of the few professional ENs is EXACTLY the reason why I like her. No random meltdowns, no collabs with homoshits just to spite the fans and consistent streaming schedules.
Keep seething cucks.

I get all the crap that her message supposedly means, she wants you to get proper friends and it's a nice way to say she doesn't want to befriend a stranger.

I damn well know she's not my friend, mommy or onee-san but she's also done the ASMR shit and other moments that make her viewers see her as more than a one-night stand, you can't say she hasn't done some form of GFE with the yandere shit.

The point is she should've simply not read the damn SC, just replied with the usual thank you [insert name] as you guys are always saying. I know it's a fucking fantasy, let me fantasize, when the stream is over it's back to real life, I didn't need her to explicitly state what I already knew.

>>49058586
what the fuck are you on?
no way you're crying at night because
>poor young people are bein influenced by bad people!
on /vt/ of all boards.
Truth is you're a fucking schizo who got offended at Ame/fauna//fanbase for something and now you are just making up random shit about "society"

>>49059204
You admitted your anger at Fauna is in bad faith because you don't want her to get treated how you wish others were. You are criticizing people for doing the thing you want them to do for others because they are doing it for the wrong person.

>>49059270
Why would she give a fuck about that?

>>49059225
You ain't even getting into where she came from. She's peak grifter who finally couldn't handle the heat anymore and needed to force some space.

>>49059270
lol

>>49059300
Does it help to know that she didn't mean to suggest anything was the matter with you for enjoying it for what it was? Because she says as much.

>>49059270
Real relationships are not required to be happy. Her advice is for people who find happiness in those superficial things.

>>49059297
uuuu to you anon. uuuu to you

>>49059297
Ghosts her fans for days on end to hang out with Kronii.

>>49059302
Cry more faggot.

>>49059346
kek cucklings will pretend picrel doesn't exist

>>49059367
She was talking to people who want to turn streamer-relationship into real-relationship, not people who accept it as a form of entertainment and friendly interaction.

>>49059346
Only grandmaster RM posters will understand this reference.

>>49059449
>>49059445
>>49059346
Ah the subhuman threadshitters are here

How about sex friends?

>>49056119
I think the issue is a lot of this girls don't understand they are not regular YouTubers. And it's really an issue on the EN side, she isn't female xQc, she is a virtual geisha yet refuses to admit it. If she was a dude she maybe would have 5% of the audience she has now. More JP girls know that vtubing is that, but en just pretends that's impossible. In short western women probably shouldn't be vtubing, they are just twitch streamers with an anime girl mask.

>>49059508
The mask is fine, the mask is what people are paying for. The problem is, western women and their fans always feel the need to take off the mask as if to remind themselves that they are still good human beings.

>>49056556
She's a dumbass, the whole thing is a fantasy, but she is a western women so she has no idea what vtubing really is.

>>49055741
I always knew there was something wrong with her, no one can be that nice, sooner or later all the masks fall
Good thing I stopped being a sapling a few months ago

>>49059330
What the fuck is this stupid word salad? I entered this thread saying that I think it's funny that Fauna is getting whiteknighted for saying the exact same thing Ame got crucified for, here >>49056602, and you fed me over a dozen dumbass cope posts about how that doesn't count and why Fauna did nothing wrong (but Ame did because muh context). You are the problem.

>>49057836
https://gofile.io/d/DwhLtO
>Kronii does this stream
>Then tweets to Vesper's boxers, leaves to hang out with Mori, comes back and hides behind Cover's skirts while saying there will be no more discussion and she changed her mind
If you've watched that stream in it's entirety, what she did after was worse than an insult.

>>49059598
What makes you so sure the same people are defending fauna as pilloried ame? Or that those people see no difference and are just playing favorites?

>>49059476
Nothing truly more subhuman then hiding your real relationship so you can grift lonely men out of their money. Good to know our jannie is a simpling, you work fast.

>>49055741
honest question do you guys think falseeyed will make a video?

>>49059297
Based Sapchad. Fauna is the shining light in a sea of shit.

>>49059508
Blame feminism. The fact they're being paid to tittilate men with an anime girl avatar hurts their ego since they mistakenly think people watch them for their "skills" as an entertainer

>>49055741
>we are not friend
where is the lie doe. at best you're an acquaintance, at worse just an ATM. I just like to be entertained. I'm not too emotional invested like a UwU mommy sapling

>>49059696
Anon, outside of /vt/, only approximately 10 separate human beings are mad at her for what she said.

There's no drama for the dramafag to cover. It's just schizos being schizos.

>>49056669
This is a circular problem, if the type of men who engages in parasocial attitudes could get friends or a gf they wouldn't be watching vtubers in the first place. EN chuubas just don't seem to understand that or refuse to see it, vtubing at its core is cope for lonely men but EN chuubas have this idea that they are just regular streamers.

>>49059696
lol lmao false is just cover boothlicker

>>49057921
I mean, Ame's was literally the same as Fauna's.
>Don't put all your effort and attention into me
>Go outside and do some exercise (Make some irl friends for Fauna)
>I genuinely think that's what's best for you and I want that
But you're right about Kronii, it was jab after jab.

>>49059772
I cheat on my gf emotionally with my oshi. Best of both worlds.

>>49059751
Global doesn't care, numbers doesn't care, /uuu/ didn't care. The same shitposters here are ban evading after getting nuked in /#/

>>49056892
The reason people dislike mori is because she is disingenuous, retard

>>49059772
This, the majority of their money and support comes from lonely parasocial fucks. This whole fucking hobby is for lonely parasocial fucks. No need to keep reminding the audience that they are lonely parasocial fucks, just shut up and pretend to care. You make more money in a year than most people will see in their lifetimes, the tradeoff is you have to keep up the mask. You don't get to make that kind of money without some kind of sacrifice and it's a relatively small one.

>>49055741
She chose to not die a hero and now she has become the villian

>>49057801
Is the lack of understanding and really cope on her parts.

>yes i am a regular youtuber, ik funny and you like me for my personality only haha. I'm just like a late night host on tv, no difference, haha.

How can she not understand that being a emotional replacement for a gf, is what she essentially is. Yes she is not in love with chat, but you aren't supposed to say that. If her audience could actually go out and make friends and get gf, she wouldn't have an audience.

>>49059866
So who's malding about fauna?

>>49058264
come home friend
to the first
the best
the strongest

>>49059917
Shitposters who have been seething since the end of her stream. Just check the the previous /#/ threads for all the deleted posts.

>>49059961
Maybe I will, when's her next stream?

>>49059961
>comes home
>no furniture
>no heating
>no lighting
>mold

Fauna is a suspected witch/Satanist and I don't fuck with the occult. I dropped her months ago when I figured it out

>>49059867
In what way? No need for a smoking gun, just, what's the accusation? Cause I don't see it

>>49059917
Mostly shitposters who have been looking for ammunition to shit on her with and feel that they finally have something.

>>49059917
I can assure you that 99% of the posters shitting on her don't watch her and just hate "le gfe parasocial unicorn chubba"
Though most are admitted nijifags coping with the fact that their supas and memberships money doesn't even go to their oshi

>>49060058
>feel that they finally have something
Explains why they're so angry. Literally no one except them cares

>>49059867
Wrong, I dislike her because she is friends with Connor

>>49059914
it's really quite unhealthy to latch onto someone you barely even know who is putting on an act of being perfect. it makes you an orbiter and makes you have a very skewed image of someone in your head which is out of touch with what they are really like.

Fauna seems really nice and I'm sure if we were real friends we would hit it off nicely, but I actually managed to get a vegan gf some time ago and it was somehow one of the most eye-opening experiences i have ever had about people in general, how they can be so insufferable in their compassion.

>>49060001
stop being a gray and find out yourself :3

>>49059686
Because this board's userbase is smaller than you think, and the proportion of people who are just in it to dishonestly sling drama and unga bunga tribalfaggotry is disappointingly high.

Test

>>49055741
of course she's not my friend. she is my wife.

>>49057634
>>49057641
absolutely autistic kek

>>49059890
Exactly, like bro, no you are not a regular streamer, you are not some bro. Think ofr a second, think, why would a predominantly male audience spend hours listening to you talk about your day, talk about how you feel, follow you around and watch your videos, buy your overpriced merchandise with your face on it. Do you really think this men don't know paying 100+ dollars for some fucking chopsticks, a bento box and fucking mp3 of Fauna talking is stupid. Why the fuck would any men pay that if not for some parasocial relationship made of cope. At their core any men would rather have a real women next to them at night, any men would rather sit down and watch some movie and cuddle with a women he loves instead of some fucking watchalong while sitting in his room eating some fucking domino's pizza. You know why they don't do it Fauna, because they can't, because they type of men watching her stupid fucking streamers is using them as cope. At least JP knows the deal, but of course has to come out and be "huurrrrr I'm not actually your friend and I don't cuddle with you huuu, wow". I know you dumb fucking idiot, it's cope, it's fucking cope, there is no women coming so they turn on the fucking anime girl.

>>49060278
This dude got banned by kronii and SCd most of EN melting down about it, asking them to unban him. It was bizarre

>>49056915
That's only one part. Start from the beggining. Specifically the part where she says:

>"We cannot be friends and we shouldn't be friends. There's a lot of reasons"

>>49060180
Anon buddy I don't know how to tell you this but vtubing is kind of cope to begin with, the whole thing. This medium has always been about giving lonely dudes some emotional experience.

>>49056119
>>49056556
tldr: I DON'T WANT YO BE YOUR FRIEND, YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>>49060373
Funny how not one of those reasons could reasonably be construed as "you suck loser"

Niggers silently live with fantasies inside their heads and get mad at object of their fantasies when one nigger decide to be vocal and received a reality check from this.

>>49060305
>huurrrrr I'm not actually your friend and I don't cuddle with you huuu, wow
The bitch is just rubbing it in.

>>49060305
Jfc, you retarded snowflakes...

>>49059914
>If her audience could actually go out and make friends and get gf, she wouldn't have an audience.
Anon what do you think having a girlfriend and having friends is? Do you think it's just locking yourselves in a room and fucking all day until you break up? At most, what having a girlfriend changes is that sometimes you'll miss streams and stuff to spend time with the girl. It's not that life-changing, guys.
>t. former girlfriend haver

Also, real talk, I just wanna let you all know, if all of your hobbies and things you enjoy just immediately go out the window because you got a girlfriend, you didn't like those things to begin with. You're just filling a hole, which is fine, but yeah, you're not actually enjoying anything, you're not actually a fan of hers.

>>49057358
This. Doing "a summary" just screams damage control.

Faunas problem was not imagining her whole fanbase as cute girls like Gura who she would absolutely want to be friends with.

>>49060431
Funny, because that's not what I said either. The point is she doesn't want to be friends with you.

>>49060305
I listen to the inane things these women talk about because of the parasocial relationship. If some random woman started going on about a weird dream she had or a childhood experience, I wouldn't listen to them. I definitely wouldn't give them money.

>>49060305
then it's like a vice
except the cigarette or alcohol company doesnt care if you smoke your lungs out or die drunk unless theyre mandated by the government to warn you about it

>>49060305
Correct.
I don't understand who gave these bitches the idea that they are entertainers. None of them are actually funny or have anything interesting to say.
The fucking hubris.

>>49056915
What in the world is wrong with western women? Yes Fauna, I know you aren't actually the keeper of nature, I know you aren't actually an anime girl, but thank you the reminder, I really thought you were. Yes we are not actually friends irl, thanks for reminder.

EN was a mistake.

>Fauna says some harsh truths then proceeds to give advice based on personal experience
Is that what we're mad at today?

>>49060565
That doesn't strictly follow, but it's probably true. What's the issue though? It's not because she thinks you suck, it's because she thinks it's building a house on sand.

There is this mentally ill Nijitroon who has been seething at Fauna for months and kept falseflagging as an anti while shitting on the other Holo girls.
Nijishitters just can't accept that Fauna is more succesful than their entire shit branch without appealing to mentally ill sisters and becoming a cumrag for a bunch of malformed third world groomers.

>>49060643
I you don't get it anon, she has to #slaykween every once in a while

I'm running out of ways to get baited. Anyone wanna keep trying to make me mad at fauna?

>>49060643
(You) might not have needed the reminder, but look at the catalog and tell me there aren't schizos /here/ who do.

>>49059917
Who's malding about fauna? We know niji has interns on the board. we know niji fans are deranged psychopaths that will excuse any yab and retort with some form of 'but holofags'
It's nijisanji fags trying to deflect and a few fauna schizos who think they finally have ammo. much the same thing happened to elira a few months ago.

>>49060643
I always like to think that people who don't stay grounded in reality are 1 in a million
Which means there are 4 people who would absolutely kidnap and rape Gura to death given the chance so reminding your audience to go outside and make friends is more of a preservation tactic for Fauna than anything else

>>49060398
I never actually watch streams or interact with her. I only watch funny clips, think haha would be nice if she was my gf, and move along with my day.

I dont know how to tell you either, but this stuff is entertainment. yes, thats also an emotional experience, but so is pro wrestling.
no, that bad guy in the ring doesnt really hate your hometown.

>>49060565
and why would you want to be friends with her really? she is literally too busy for anything.

>>49060662
>get a job in a company that syphons money out of mentally ill lonely people, trying to cope with their shit
>get all high and mighty on them a year later

Every fucking time.

>>49056496
I can't fathom it either. You can't stop the parasocial people from being parasocial so all this does is make your non-para fans feel like you're attacking them for showing any positive reinforcement.

They need to just leave it be. It sucks and I have sympathy but sniping your fanbase is not a historically smart decision.

>>49059225
Actual retard holy shit

>>49060933
He is absolutely correct. You don't get to condescend on your fans like that after you exploit them

>>49061040
Make a numbers thread about in a month and see if anyone cares

>>49060924
if you cant fathom it then its really probably out of the realm of possibility for anyone to try to explain it to you.

i do think that if you stop being a fan over something like this being pointed out under the guise of literal common sense then its no real loss

>>49061093
Nobody said anything about numbers, retard.

>>49061120
If saplings aren't leaving her then she didn't do anything wrong did she?
Let's see how many of her fans felt hurt by being condescended to

>>49060305
God damn you're a fucking loser

>My arms, my legs are wood, unconscious trees
>With roots deep in the ground, we'll all be out

>>49061187
Yes, and million flies can't possibly be wrong.
Not how this shit works, retard. If no one calls you out for being retarded it doesn't actualy mean that you're not a retard.

>>49061187
>saplings are too spineless to leave
>somehow this is a good thing

>>49061221
so true sister

realistically what do you even expect is going to happen if you somehow become friends with them
no one has the time to keep more than several friends at a time
youll probably never talk for more than a few times a year

>>49061282
>You don't get to condescend on your fans like that after you exploit them
>What if there's no consequences?
>I'm still right somehow.

>>49061324
You think the Saplings should go outside and make friends?

>>49061376
Again, no one actually wants to be friends with them. Just like no one actually believes that wrestling kayfabe is real.
Wrestling, like vtubing, is entertainment. And there is no reason to point out the obvious fakeness of it.

>>49060686
One thing is a retard spending his life 24/7 f5ing here all day, another is having the vtuber herself play around the tacit rules like this >>49056119, in which she needs to be reminded of reality like this >>49060305
There would be no thread if she knew how to handle her own egosearch mental damage.

>>49061221
It's the vtuber board anon.

Why not just keep up the illusion
Surely they must all be aware that the anime avatar is responsible for 90% of their viewers being there at all

>>49061459
do you really think thats a bad thing?

>>49061474
im kind of trying to figure out why there would be a reason to point out the obvious fakeness of it, and i could hark back to when people actually did believe that wrestling kayfabe was real.

nowadays wrestling fans are mostly smart enough to know better, but i dont think i can say the same for vtuber fans.

>>49059297
Doing something out of spite is deemed as a quality of unprofessionalism, retard.

>>49061187
>She's only a hypocrite if people leave her!!
Actual retard holy shit

>>49061459
Probably yeah, but that isn't gonna happen. It's kind of weird, this women can say almost anything and the fanbase won't leave precisely because if the parasocialism they claim to hate. It's the reason guys throw money at them when they fucking sneeze or buy their overpriced merch. If your average vtubing fan went out and made friends and git a gf there wouldn't be a vtubing industry.

>>49059700
Man if she is the shinning light then then everything really went to shit.

>>49056119
I can't listen to her fake voice. Never have been able to.

>>49061792
So people ITT are upset about Fauna potentially losing Cover some income?

>>49061842
I mean, when you think about it, it kind of has

>>49061792
Right? I don't get it. Does she really think she's conan o brien or something? Entertainer my ass.

>>49055741
once again its proven that only Kiara understands this hobby

>>49061943
Only on EN side

>>49061984
Glad we can agree that Fauna is the shining light amongst a sea of shit in EN vtubing

>>49061981
Yeah, unfortunately. Can't stand her voice.

>>49061792
just because someone is an anime girl doesnt mean you have to forget they are women too

why are you willingly just gonna turn off your brain throwing money at someone just because theyre acting cute

>>49056496
>interacting live with a streamer is the same as watching a pre-recorded movie