/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49002193
>only to probably join vshojo a few months later
Imagine literally getting mad over something that hasn't happened

>>49002291
the wheels have already begun to spin in motion
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1655044786817232897
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1655407173118164992

>>49002291
Not him but kson has done some winks and nods towards it

>>49002193
Honestly karma on them. Especially considering she got antied for her isekai model from those same people. I won't watch her reincarnation though. Just a lesson in what goes around comes around.

>>49002193
That's what happens when you cast Crucio many times on someone.

>>49002193
>thing that happened
>thing that did not happen
>thing that is yet to happen or not happen
grr im mad

>>49002193
hate these fucking niggers spreading misinfo about pikamee

>>49002193
Don't worry polbro, she's coming back as a Vshitjo member
Make sure to support her, since you care so much

>>49002662
Just because you refuse to believe the truth doesn't make it misinformation.

>>49002291
>>49002563
>>49002662
What will you say when it is pikamee?
Have you readied your cope statement yet?

>>49002563
>He thinks OP is making shit about Froot instead of just accepting reality.

>>49002780
I could not care less if I tried

>>49002193
this is why i stopped having an oshi and started to treat it as a casual hobby where I pay zero money into. Those who are vtubers are are inherently manipulative.

>>49002780
Why do retards act like the harassment is only bad if it caused Pikamee to graduate? It’s still wrong, dipshit.

>>49003368
Maybe don't support the terf transphobe next time

>>49002193
>innocent tea kettle harassed over wanting to play wizard game
yea that was bad
>people like Froot from vshojo endorsed the harassment
that didn't happen
>leaves the company she was in............only to probably join vshojo a few months later
leaving a group for one that is better aligned with your goals is a good thing

>>49003699
> that didn't happen
it's okay anon everyone make mistake, that was yours.

>>49003699
>that didn't happen
Rumao, classic

>>49002193
I will just shit on kson for the crime of being a wormtong and leading pikamee into this trap

>>49003892
>>49003987
https://vtlogs.moe/?channel=silvervale&username=apricot
here's a chat log of froot hopping into silver's harry potter stream to welcome her back

>>49002193
should use the other thread
also read this and stop shitting yourself
>>49002737

>>49002193
You are inventing a imaginary scenario in your head to get mad over

>>49003539
dont breath next time
im sure you forget to as it

>>49004105
>Glad to see you feeling better
clearly uuuuh... *sniffs jenkem* le evil supervillain frooterino is glad to see silver feeling better because she is looking forward to crushing those good feelings

>>49003699
>that didn't happen
Next you're gonna tell me the chammers wasn't the one to blame for the Taiwan yab and triggered this domino effect.

>>49002291
>getting mad over something that hasn't happened
Literally this entire board any given day.

>>49003178
Sure you could, you could fuck off from threads you don't care about lol
>>49003368
I didn't infer that anywhere, but what i will say is that i do think that pikamee coming into vshojo after all the drama that caused multiple girls not to renew contract and kson publicly asking for a better contract if it exists does look bad

Pikamee was the face of voms and she abandoned it to join a notably badly run corpo that even nazuna has regretted

>>49002193
Protip: If Pikamee is getting an entire series of animated videos introducing her new character debut now, barely a month after she graduated, then that VERY CLEARLY means she made the decision to join Vshojo long before any of this Harry Potter bullshit even started. She probably had already nailed down her new Vshojo character design before even announcing that she was gonna play HP.

That's not to excuse the harassment, all those fuckers can off themselves as far as I'm concerned, but I do need you to understand the basic concepts of cause and effect, and realistic timelines.

>>49003699
>things that didn't happen
Holy shit the revisionist history, you have to be trolling

>>49004943
>kson publicly asking for a better contract if it exists does look bad
Yet another thing that never happened. Kson just said that she thinks it's a good thing that Vtubers can leave if they get a better offer without it turning into a bunch of graduation bullshit, as has literally always been her position on graduations and vtuber agencies. To emphasize how much she had no hard feelings about them leaving, she further pointed out that she two would leave for another company in the complete fantasy scenario that someone would pay her a Million-Billion dollars a day for it. You're either repeating bullshit you heard secondhand or you're an actual illiterate monkey with no grasp of the English language, take your pick.

>>49005149
yes, but have you considered kson bad?

>>49005021
>>49004105

>>49005149
>To emphasize how much she had no hard feelings about them leaving, she further pointed out that she too would leave for another company in the complete fantasy scenario that someone would pay her a Million-Billion dollars a day for it.
That's still the most distasteful statement she could've come up with till this day, worst thing is that she completely got away with it.

>>49005543
It's almost as if it's a completely normal opinion and only literal schizos are upset about it

>>49005699
It really isn't a good look in the business standpoint, but you do you my friend.

>>49005543
>>49005866
you are a 75 year old corporate slave
or
you have never worked a day in your life

when someone gives you a better deal you take it
simple as

>>49004943
>I didn't infer that anywhere
Sorry, I still have PTSD from twitter freaks raiding the board. I agree that it’s a bad look especially so soon after her graduation. I personally hope it isn’t her because she’s weak to bullying and Vshojo is not going to protect her. If anything, joining it will get her shit on for that reason alone.

>>49005915
It's not that simple you fucking moron.

You could get a juicy offer to work on a bigger office, highest of the ranks if you got an academic degree, like being an accountant; with 2 or 3 times the amount of what you would normally earn on a monthly basis, and you would nevertheless despise it because you're paired up with the scummiest and most self-destructive co-workers in the world, tightened up in a room and ready to make you life miserable, along with a superior that'll shit talk you if you decided to protest about the minimal of details regarding your line of work, or to stick with your current job, mediocre, borderline the average payment, but with a group of people you already know for a long time now, even maybe before college, and that'll look after you if something were to go wrong.

t. worked as an accountant in a private bank for over 3 years, took at least 2 SSRI pills per week and almost died of alcohol poisoning.

>>49005866
"I will change jobs if someone gives me a great offer" is normal as fuck anon are you high

>>49003363
good for you, I wish I was the same now, everyone just fucks you over

>>49003699
>better aligned with your goals
well find a better company then, vshojo is not that, she deserved something a lot more reputable that isn't breaking apart and hated by a sizable chunk of the vtuber fanbase

>>49002350
>VOMS was the lab she had to escape
I really wonder how bad it was

>>49007611
VOMS wasn't meant to be a big company it's just GYARI's side project.
Pikamee exploded in popularity and he couldn't really offer the support she needed.
At the same time, GYARI could have simply got someone in place to do that.
If she thinks vshitshow will give her the support she needs she is going to find out it's not like that.
She should have went to a better company. She is just pissing away her reputation joining vshojo.

>>49007583
>more reputable
Like what? She has no reason to join one of the big corpos, I don't think Mythic is signing anyone Japanese, and they're going to eventually implode anyway.

If what you are looking for is basically being Indie but with some minimal support, Vshojo is fine.
>hated by a sizable chunk of the vtuber fanbase
Filtering SEA is a net benefit

>>49003699
>leaving a group for one that is better aligned with your goals is a good thing
VShojoJP is pretty awful though.
It's basically a dead "branch". I have no idea why someone would join it as opposed to doing literally anything else, including staying indie.

>>49007884
>Filtering SEA is a net benefit
You don't genuinely believe that everyone who dislikes VShojo is SEA, right?
Pikamee will get an increase in antis if she joins. Let's hope that unlike Kson and Nazuna, she actually knows that a lot of overseas people despise the brand or else she's in for a rude awakening like both of them were.

>>49008500
>including staying indie.
Going indie would have been an improvement for her over staying with VOMS. Since she had to go through the graduation bullshit no matter what path she took to get out, going to a company that probably gives her a signing bonus, a new model, like 6+minutes of animation to kick off her debut etc etc is not a bad option. Even in the worst case she can just go Indie later and keep all the benefits she's accrued.

>>49008659
As long as she's lucky enough not to burn off parts of her fanbase by joining, it's probably fine, but I know enough about that branch to point out that it's dead. It's worse than most people even realise and I say this as someone who was probably overly optimistic about its chances when it was first announced. There is no hope for that "branch" at all.

>>49008500
that's the point, it's coming back alive going from 2(lol) to 5 members and with a renewed campaign

>>49002193
I hate Froot and trannies, but I am glad Vei, silver, and nyanners left that shithole of vshojo, all because Froot is there rallying trannies.

>>49005149
I see that one of Kson's life goals is to destroy the brand loyalty brought to the point of fanaticism for both content creators and fans and destroy the principles of graduation in which Vtubers have to delete every piece of the content they produced earlier in order to move forward. I'm not that deep into Vtubing, I have other hobbies and from the point of a tourist like me both of these things are very damaging for Vtubers and their followers. Pikamee will get thousands of determined haters with her possible debut before she gets a single fan on her side. Am I correct in my assumptions?

>>49008784
I have a feeling it won't work out as well as that.
Well, more than a feeling. And no, I'm not even being an anti or overly cynical by saying this.

>>49005149
Does Kson have a better contract than Nazuna?

>>49002193
Are we still preparing for war?
Should i post the Discord?

>>49010189
what?

>>49009588
>destroy the principles of graduation
Yes, she wants to change the vtubing scene into one where most vtubers own their own IP and assets so they would only graduate if they're actually quitting for real, not just switching management
The vtubers would benefit the most by having much stronger cards on the table during any sort of negotiation with their management agency, an easy way out if negotiating doesn't work, as well as removing the ever-present threat of being fired into nonexistence or having their company/branch shut down for whatever reason
The viewers would benefit by not having their favorite characters and content disappear over behind the scenes BS that shouldn't even concern them
>destroy brand loyalty
Not something she's ever talked about but I suppose it would be a sort of a consequence of the other thing
I don't think she's against group identities though, she's always pushed that kind of content and language and promoted her co-workers

>>49010580
What are your thoughts on Kson trying to invite Nazuna to collab with rpr despite Nazuna having a "no males allowed" self imposed rule?

>>49010652
she declined and nobody cares except 5 of you guys

>>49002193
Try to look at it this way, it was the first seal that was broken. Since then, a new seal has been periodically broken and all hell has set up loose in the community.
After that,drama it's the rule 24/7.

>>49010829
You're getting rather defensive.
All I'm saying is if she does that publicly, who knows how often she's tried to invite her privately. I'd assume far more
And after that rant video about overseas unicorns fans, we simply can't dismiss the idea that Kson doesn't like Nazuna's fans. After all, Kson knows Nazuna has Unicorns. And we can assume VShojo hates Nazuna's Unicorn fans too. Isn't that rather annoying for us?

>>49010924

I think you're vastly overestimating how much Kson knows or cares about the specific makeup of Nazuna's fanbase.

>>49011175
>vastly overestimating how much Kson knows
Kson once received a superchat from a fan joking about Nazuna's fanbase having a lot of "magical creatures" in it. The idea that she doesn't know about Nazuna's Unicorns is basically impossible
On top of that, she did a rant stream about overseas Unicorns. Do you know what Nazuna says about her own Unicorns? She acknowledges that most are overseas. Certainly not Kanata, whose overseas Unicorns are barely noticeable.

>>49002193
>>49002350

I didn't keep up much on Pikamee, what's the reason why everyone thinks this is Pikamee? Is it just the IQ reference?

>>49002780
If on the chance it is Pikamee, the """predictions"'" that it's her were still based on bullshit.

>>49011731
It's been confirmed to be a bilungual (Japanese and English) vtuber so the choices are very limited.

>>49012074
Who ELSE could it be though? Let's try and figure it out.

>>49007884
>they're going to eventually implode anyway
What, like vshojo?

>>49011926
>noo it's not my fault i refuse to take in the facts and instead rely entirely on the catalog and bannedvtmemes for my information, y-your prediction is based on bullshit!

>>49013456
>take in the fact
Ok let's see em.

>>49013378
It's been like a week since three members left and already no one cares anymore. That's what happens when people can leave anytime they want with no drama, it doesn't turn into a shitshow every time.

Now long term they want to be adding new members faster than they leave to stay viable, so we'll see how Vshojo stands in another year. For now though, they've basically stabilized.

>>49002193

If true vshitshow jp is turning into the cozy tv of vtubing. With ethan guntson, pikamee fuentes and rushia lolisocks. If the company does not outright die from sheer alcohol induced organ failure, fed raids and pedophilia scandals.

>mfw

>>49013702
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1641818147534807041
plus a trillion other things i can't be assed to find for you

>>49013801
>phasemonkey thinks other people know his kiwifarms references
?

>>49013829
Wow. That is pure, definitive proof

>>49011574
>Kson once received a superchat from a fan joking about Nazuna's fanbase having a lot of "magical creatures" in it.
If you unironically think Kson would pick up on a hint that vague you should probably try actually watching her sometime. She forgets what superchats are talking about halfway through reading them, especially the english ones.

>>49014236
>She forgets what superchats are talking about halfway through reading them, especially the english ones.
...and then depending on her mood she sometimes uses ESL-tier grammar. I'll spare you my essay on what I think is going on, but there's a pattern to when she misspeaks in English vs when she is more clear about her meaning.

>>49014443
the pattern is if it pops up randomly while she's speaking japanese and her brain is in japanese mode vs. her putting more effort into reading it, in both cases her grammar is still ESL-ish though

>>49014236
Kson herself didn't collab with the Holostars back when she was in Hololive and she was literally roommates with the Unicorn Kanata for over a year, was it?
If you really, really, really assume that Kson is just somehow "unaware" of the fact that Nazuna has Unicorns, you're in denial.
Also, she 100% browses this board. Now I'm not saying she's doing it out of spite.
I imagine she's worried about Nazuna being lonely and thinks that her "no men allowed" rule is probably getting in the way of that. I can see why she'd assume, as her friend, that maybe she just needs to poke Nazuna a bit and try to convince her to collab with men too.

>>49014801
1. That Holo unicorn shit was pushed by her manager
2. She doesn't talk about "work stuff" with her friends. She didn't know why Nazuna was not using youtube until several months after she debuted despite them collabing frequently back then because someone in chat brought it up and she decided to ask her. They talk about other shit, they don't share your hobby of constantly talking about their own streams
3. Nazuna literally constantly complains about being lonely and wanting friends
4. She doesn't read this board
5. Who cares lmao you're literally fucking seething over a friend inviting another friend to meet one of their friends you autistic nutjob go outside holy shit

>>49015107
>4. She doesn't read this board
Keep telling that to yourself you blind faggot.
Keep pretending she didn't grabbed the Based Department image from the /jp/ thread and that it was from some random Tatsunoko on twitter instead.

>>49002193
She wanted an excuse to finally ditch her old look and the trannies provided it.

>>49015107
>1. That Holo unicorn shit was pushed by her manager
Thanks for revealing you're not a fan of unicorns so easily for me
>2. She doesn't talk about "work stuff" with her friends. She didn't know why Nazuna was not using youtube until several months after she debuted despite them collabing frequently back then because someone in chat brought it up and she decided to ask her. They talk about other shit, they don't share your hobby of constantly talking about their own streams
If you think anyone in the general Vtuber community doesn't know that Nazuna has gachikoi or Unicorns, you are honestly so delusional. VTubers talk to each other far more than you think.
>3. Nazuna literally constantly complains about being lonely and wanting friends
And this suddenly makes it ok to invite her to a male collab? It really, really doesn't. Even the most casual of casual people know Rushia didn't collab with men, let alone someone who worked in the same company as her for over a year, and has been talking to her for about 2-3 in total?
>4. She doesn't read this board
Kson was complaining about overseas people becoming "more extreme" as unicorns. Where else would she even see this besides 4chan?
I'm pretty sure her general has indirectly confirmed that she browses her too, so you don't need to pretend that she doesn't. It's unbecoming
>5. Who cares lmao you're literally fucking seething over a friend inviting another friend to meet one of their friends you autistic nutjob go outside holy shit
Male friend. Which is disgusting, because it would force Nazuna to break her promises and hurt her fans.

>>49015457
>Thanks for revealing you're not a fan of unicorns so easily for me
Thanks for revealing that you're a retard, I'm not talking about myself and that isn't speculation lol.
>VTubers talk to each other far more than you think.
They talk about other subjects. Stop projecting..
>And this suddenly makes it ok to invite her to a male collab?
Yes.
>Kson was complaining about overseas people becoming "more extreme" as unicorns.
She was complaining about something Mori told her about and used Unicorns as an example, she was not actually complaining about unicorns.
>I'm pretty sure her general has indirectly confirmed that she browses her too, so you don't need to pretend that she doesn't. It's unbecoming
Wrong.
>Male friend. Which is disgusting, because it would force Nazuna to break her promises and hurt her fans.
Provide the proof that Nazuna told Kson about that "promise".

>>49015726
>Provide the proof that Nazuna told Kson about that "promise".
Rushia has literally bragged to us about refusing male collabs that she was invited to. Why would Kson not be aware that she doesn't collab with men?
>Yes.
You are a literal homobegging scumbag. You are the actual worst filth that browse this board.
Do you know what Mikeneko said about people who were telling her to collab with men? She called them antis who were trying to get her to do things that would hurt her fans. In Mikeneko's eyes, you are one of her antis.
>She was complaining about something Mori told her about and used Unicorns as an example, she was not actually complaining about unicorns.
This is literal cope.

>>49016233
>Why would Kson not be aware that she doesn't collab with men?
Because she doesn't watch her streams and is not involved in her fan community.
>Do you know what Mikeneko said about people who were telling her to collab with men?
That's nice, you got a clip of her telling that to Kson?
>This is literal cope.
She literally spent the previous night hanging out with her and then immediately does a stream talking about schizo fans who attack vtubers because they don't like them. I don't think I need to tell you about how many schizos Mori has.

>>49016569
>Because she doesn't watch her streams and is not involved in her fan community.
Go into literally ANY catalog bait thread about Rushia/Mikeneko/Nazuna. Nobody there watches her. They all know that she doesn't collab with men
This is COMMON knowledge. This is something that doesn't need to be told, because literally every single person who knows about JP Vtubers knows it, much less someone who WORKED IN THE SAME COMPANY AS HER FOR YEARS. How are you so stupid? How? Honestly, how are you so fucking retarded?
At this point, I'm assuming you're just playing dumb, because nobody could be as legitimately as stupid as you. But we'll see.
Kson invited Nazuna to play ARK with her. We know there's probably men on that server since Kson can't seem to keep away from them. We'll keep an eye on Kson to see if she does anything to push Nazuna's boundaries again.
Also, Mori doesn't have Unicorn. Kek

>>49002193
Every vshojo reincarnation has made me lose any respect I would've had for that person.

>>49015726
>>I'm pretty sure her general has indirectly confirmed that she browses her too, so you don't need to pretend that she doesn't. It's unbecoming
>Wrong.
NTA, but we all know she browses here. Don't need to pretend that she doesn't

>>49016988
>This is COMMON knowledge.
...among people who sit on /vt/ all day, which Kson does not.
>because literally every single person who knows about JP Vtubers knows it, much less someone who WORKED IN THE SAME COMPANY AS HER FOR YEARS
Everyone inside the company knows that it's primarily management discouraging male collabs, and in reality the talent don't give a shit about that stuff. Nazuna clearly was in that camp since she doesn't seem to have a problem hanging out with dudes and did a totsu with a bunch of guys as her first collab aside from Kson, who did not invite her to that btw. I assume Mike doesn't really talk about the past much judging by your cluelessness.

You seem really confused by the fan "fog of war" so to speak. Kson knows the real Nazuna. You know the on-screen persona and think it's the real one, and you think Kson is dumb because she doesn't know how the fake one acts on streams. In reality it's the other way around.
>Kson invited Nazuna to play ARK with her. We know there's probably men on that server since Kson can't seem to keep away from them. We'll keep an eye on Kson to see if she does anything to push Nazuna's boundaries again.
It's actually depressing to read this schizo shit knowing that you think Nazuna actually likes you. It'll be a great day when she finally dumps you.
>Also, Mori doesn't have Unicorn. Kek
Let me quote myself because you have reading difficulties.
>She was complaining about something Mori told her about and used Unicorns as an example, she was not actually complaining about unicorns.
Kson was complaining about fans who attack vtubers who do things that they don't like. She didn't want to reveal who she was actually talking about so instead of being specific she used an example, that example being unicorns, who attack vtubers if they do something they don't like (collab with a male in this instance). She literally said in the stream that she is using an unicorns as an example. Mori doesn't have unicorns but she has people who attack her when she does something they don't like. I hope you understand now.

>>49017554
Sorry but you're not that important, she doesn't give a fuck about basket weavers on the holoboard.

>>49017965
>Nazuna clearly was in that camp since she doesn't seem to have a problem hanging out with dudes and did a totsu with a bunch of guys as her first collab aside from Kson, who did not invite her to that btw. I assume Mike doesn't really talk about the past much judging by your cluelessness.
Mikeneko promised in March, post termination, that she wouldn't collab with men. If you think that the only reason that she avoided them was the company telling her to, you have brain damage
>Nazuna clearly was in that camp since she doesn't seem to have a problem hanging out with dudes and did a totsu with a bunch of guys as her first collab aside from Kson, who did not invite her to that btw. I
She apologised for that. She essentially thought her fanbase had become a bunch of normalfags (like you), and didn't realise it would hurt people until they blew up
>I assume Mike doesn't really talk about the past much judging by your cluelessness.
I know her past. Before Hololive when she used to collab with men? That period in her life where she was suicidal because the people around her would humiliate her for fun? Have you ever thought that perhaps that's one of the reasons why I know it's best for her to stay away from men?
By the way: just a few weeks ago, Mikeneko once more confirmed that she isn't going to collab with men
> It'll be a great day when she finally dumps you.
Oh, you are an anti. Nazuna's free to dump us whenever she wants. The fact that she keeps refusing to do so is because, surprise surprise, she loves us. She even called us her boyfriend again today just to clarify this.
Your view of Nazuna pretty much lines up with what antis say about her, by the way. The whole "she's fake" thing is 100% an anti talking point.
I didn't realise the Ksongumi hated Nazuna so much. What a shame, it's truly horrible. Maybe it would really be best if Kson and Nazuna were to interact less so that the Ksongumi don't get too upset at Nazuna and start to anti her just like you are right now. I'll keep that in mind, thank you.

>>49018378

Remember when Kson left hololive, and everyone on this board went with 'she's joining vshojo' and retards said it wasn't possible? Yeah, same shit is happening now.

>>49018649
You're literally whining about why a Vtuber you don't watch won't break up with her fans or collab with men.
What a sad sack of shit are you?

>>49018829
I watch Nazuna all the time, otherwise I wouldn't care about antis like yourself.

>>49018790
People get way too far up in their own perspective, and forget that the girls they watch have their own opinions. Everyone is guilty of it sometimes, myself included, which is why you got a take step back and reorient yourself with reality once in a while.

Just because vt thinks Vshojo is a den of evil whores no one wants to associate with doesn't mean their oshi feels the same way even slightly. It's especially laughable in Pika's case tho because she's friends with several members already, not even just Kson. .

>>49018885
Anyone who wants her to Collab with men is essentially saying that they want her to hurt her fans and commit career suicide
Do you know what she called the people who attacked her Unicorns? She said they were worse than antis

>>49018790
The idea that "she's leaving Holo to join Vshojo" was actually wrong, but she ended up joining later on after randomly running into a staff member who asked her about the business and she found out that Vshojo was not a typical vtuber corp like HoloSanji. Before that she had literally no idea how it worked despite talking to Melody for 2 years.

>>49019861
>career suicide
There's like 10 of you fags, she'd never notice that you're gone.

>>49017965
Goddamn Kson fans really are the biggest retards in the business. Enjoy the ride to 3view!

>>49020218
>noooombers

If she actually gave up voms to join vshoujo she's a retard, plain and simple.
She'd unironically have more freedoms still in VOMS, she had her multiple models, she had an audience already.
And the way she left actually left people with so many emotions from sadness to rage.
If she just shows up like "lol i'm here now" ther are gonna be a lot of wild reactions.
Plus being on vshoujo is actually going to fuck her numbers.
The OG vshoujo members all had their thing going. The only new members are Kson, who has lost in her transition. Nazuna, who is also a shell of her former self. And Haruka, not sure how she's doing but she was already a vshoujo orbiter so she's the only one I'd expect to do better.
Vshoujo is already falling apart.
Perhaps they are going to take this as a chance to restructure things.
Is Nazuna owned by Nazuna? All the OG Vshoujos came with their own characters so it's easy to assume they are part of the agency but retain ownership. But Nazuna was born within Vshoujo, she's closer to a traditional corpo vtuber than an odd case like the vshoujo girls that were indies.
This new girl is the same sort of deal as her.
Vshoujo expressed interest in expanding in Japan.
I could see this as being a step towards turning Vshoujo into a more traditional corpo that will recruit and poach girls and give them new characters and basically own them just like Holo and Niji and everyone else does and start recruiting to build up the JP group.
And since they lost a bunch of girls on the EN side they might need to refill those sluts too.
I don't have much hope in this tho, they managed to lose 3 of their founding members in one go, I don't think Vshoujo's management is actually good enough to pull this shit of successfully.

>>49020296
Anon no! What are you doing!? Now they're gonna call you a numbermonkey...

>>49020296
Yep, numbers. Her numbers are shit and getting worse because people increasingly dislike her. Part of that is her faggot fanbase.

>>49002350
>Left the scene over harassment over a distinctly western problem
>Come back to a strongly western vtuber group
I'm holding doubts.

>>49020379
Weird cope given that the monkey thread took her out of their SC count because she kept mogging their favorite vtubers every month.

>>49020848
Is this true?
lmao

>>49020848
What a strange sight, witnessing a kgumi talking shit out of their asses.
She was taken out of that statistic mainly because of her rampant streams as a fleshtuber, colliding with the interests of the board's rules and to follow the moderation's activity regarding that matter in order to avoid being banned. nothing else.

>>49021333
Smells like cope to me

>>49020848
Down and down with no end in sight. Embrace those 900ccv karaoke streams with pride like a real deadender. Don't be a coward!

>>49021626
Seethe

>>49021626
that's genuinely a whole new level of has been

>>49021778
Yeah, no shit. We can tell you are.

>>49021956
>no u
kek

>>49022028
Her career dying is pretty funny.

are we still talking about pikamee or has the thread fully devolved into "kson and vshojo bad"?

>>49022134
Just Kshart bad right now.

>>49022134
It's still the pikamee thread but I enjoy arguing with the Kson anti while at work

>>49021333
>>49021626
>>49022096
fun fact: kson would have beat every single holo in scs last month if membership streams counted, she got like $10k in a single one :)

>>49022771
As one would expect of the ex-most-superchatted-girl-in-the-world

>>49022134
A part of me simply despises the thought of Pika becoming kikeson's leech, that is all.

>>49023158
>i hate that my chuuba made a genuine great friend who she loves hanging out with
/vt/ moment

>>49020338
You don't watch anyone from vshojo. You don't watch pikamee.

>won't join Hololive because doesn't want to sing and dance in front of crowds
>won't join Niji because they're niggers
I guess vshojo really is the only option

>>49020848
>Weird cope given that the monkey thread took her out of their SC count because she kept mogging their favorite vtubers every month.
LMAO, that's incredible.

>>49002193
>Pikamee joins Vshojo JP
>every twitterbrain that's been lying in ambush jumps out and goes "Aha! Transphobe! Lolicon! Gotcha!"
>Vshojo loses another talent
Pika got seriously burned for approaching the Twitch scene with a Japanese mindset. I doubt she'll want to interact with the platform ever again, much less join a Twitch/EN-focused agency.

>>49024326
If you ever watched pikamee you'd know that she sometimes streamed on twitch

>>49024430
Yeah, and look at where it lead to.

>>49024430
>I doubt she'll want to interact with the platform ever again

>>49024430
that loli abomination was not Pikamee

>>49024493
obviously it's twitch's fault people got mad on twitter
she was unknown in the english speaking community until that fateful day when she made a twitch account

>>49024564
>she was unknown in the english speaking community
>unknown
???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5P1IzjagzI

>>49024675
i was being sarcastic

If this is true, kson needs to be stopped. How could she morally justify dragging someone who got harassment and death threats just for saying she was going to play Hogwarts Legacy into a company that did nothing to defend one of their talents going through the same thing, and even had other talents side with the harassers?

>>49024430
I think what anon means is that the wizard game drama is still fresh in peoples' minds. And twitterfags love to dredge up old dirt to drag people down.

>>49024564
This is what lack of proper management does btw. When HoloJP wanted to also stream on Twitch there was pushback by management to wait until they could sus out any issues with the platform and ended mostly just making accounts without using it too much. Anyone with half a brain cell would've known someone innocent as Pikamee going to Twitch would eventually ended in disaster.

>>49002350
That "lore" and narration could have been written by AI for how shit it was.

>>49024857
i like the contrast between /vt/fags' idea of twitch as an evil entity that no vtuber can handle and then you actually go on twitch and it's people making ligma balls jokes and posting pictures of billy herrington

>>49023158
What's the deal with Coco/Kson fans calling all her friends leeches?

>>49025359
anon?!

>>49025359
So 49023158 derisively calls Kson "kikeson" and you think they are a "fan"?

>>49004943
>the drama that caused multiple girls not to renew contract
Causation is not correlation. The only thing feeding this narrative is /vt/ drama and schizoposting. There are a dozens of reasons they would choose not to recontract, including dissatisfaction with merchandising/upper management, internal troubles, or undisclosed financial reasons. The fact that the board is screeching about the wizard game as THE reason is ironically as braindead as the people who were angry about the game in the first place. Vshoujo was a pretty loose association of western indies and freelancers in the first place. And besides that, Pikamee said she was planning on graduating well before the Hogwarts shit happened anyway. If she's reincarnating it's probably because she wants to own her own model.

>>49025359
Are you okay anon?

>>49002193
get fucked.

>>49011731
it's just hopium. dont hold your breath.

>>49025173
Twitch is an evil company not because of the streamers but because of the abhorrent double standards that have always been prevelent that and Amazon bought them out for a trifle

>>49020436
she was set to graduate before she announced to stream that game, but don't let that inconvenient fact harm you precious narrative

>>49019861
>Anyone who wants her to Collab with men is essentially saying that they want her to hurt her fans

>>49025883
and you choose to belieb that? the PR guided statement?

>>49025883
That doesnt excuse the shitty behavior of twitter troons like you faggot. Keep that in mind

>>49025721
The saying is supposed to be "correlation is not causation"
You can't just flip them because causation inherently IS correlation

>>49025737
No.

>>49002193
Pikamee is an idiot if she joins Vshojo it's such a bad fit for her
Kson fuck off

>>49026068
it's more likely than her choosing you leave her passion behind because of something you're blowing out of proportion
like, unironically why wouldn't you have an easier time believing she already wanted to graduate and go to a bigger company that can accomodate her popularity, where her best friend works, over the idea she quit one of the few things she's qualified to do for good because people were mad she might stream a game?

>>49002193
is there a SINGLE REASSON to believe the girl in the animation is Pikamee? why the thread?

>>49002193
How hard is it to moderate chat...
Honestly all you needed was 1 admin with a ban hammer bonking people who even remotely question there choose in games.

>>49027774
It wouldn't have mattered since the uproar was more notorious at Twitter than it was on YT.

>>49026628
>it's such a bad fit for her
And yet no one offers any alternatives. She ejected from VOMS for good reasons. Niji is a black company. Hololive is pointless for anyone who is already successful. Exactly where else would she go? Be specific

>>49027625

>>49027625
Nothing concrete, no. Just a lot of coincidences and lack of known possibilities of who the new vtuber to be.
Somehow I doubt Pika got over her crippling depression that was making her not stream prior to wizard game in just over a month.

>>49028104
the depression was due to her making the hard choice to leave

>>49028027
The only replies you'll get are "Hololive" or "should have stayed indie"

>>49028021
It all comes down to her feeling completely blindsided by the whole thing. She didn't know the trannies had been gunning for anything HP related for years, when the blow up happened she had no idea what it was about or if there were any merits to what they were saying or not. She was one of the first people that was targeted too, she didn't have any examples from other people on how to handle it, etc.

It legit scared the fuck out of her, but after she came back she was a little bit shaky for the first day or two, until she understood how much support she really had, and then she streamed pretty much every day for a solid month and during her graduation stream she was a rock. Basically I'm saying I don't think they'll ever get to her like that a second time, you only get hit by a storm of incomprehensible bullshit like that once.

>>49028150
No, threadreader. I'm talking about before she even announced that she was going to stream the game. She had just come back from a long break and flat out said she was depressed.
Coincidentally, she also said she was going to take a break from twitch and focus on youtube for a while, which makes all the twitch rrats in this thread even more retarded.

>>49028371
>I'm talking about before she even announced that she was going to stream the game. She had just come back from a long break and flat out said she was depressed.
yes... that's when she was making the decision to graduate

i wonder which vtubers are reading these threads and laughing

>>49028027
Cytube

>>49028747
I guess thinking about leaving it all behind and having to start over would make anyone depressed

>>49010255
Someone made a Discord dedicated to documenting the Hogwarts Legacy situations when mods started deleting threads that mentioned it.