/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Of course not.
She always wanted creative freedom but the mangement never fucking let her.
She did everything right, graduating and moving on while still being in touch with hololive. Im happy for her.

>>4889328
I dont know man, she has received a lot of spam, death threads, etc and cover not only didnt help but made things worse when they gave some chinks mod permissions during a stream. I wouldnt blame her if she was just tired of this all. Hope she can be happy wherever she decides to go

>>4889328
10% antis targeting your friends.
60% cool idea getting blocked by management again
30% wanting to do something new

>>4889328
Yes, she even cried about it on stream, well not because of the mean comments exactly but she completely lost her shit in that apologize stream from when cover banned her members and modded the chink spammers, kanata even came into her room to help her, and she ended the stream sobbing right after

Huh... yes? she cried about that shit before.

>>4889328
>Thin skin
People have killed themselves over less, anon

>>4889328
fuck off.

>>4889328
>Do people really believe that Coco of all people would be the kind of thin-skinned girl to graduate because of mean chinese comments?
Let's see you handle that kind of shit for 8 months or so

>>4889328
she was attacked by a Chink on Japan, anon. She also got stalked by one of them.

People are using chink spam and administrative incompetence as eeasons because they are problems that can be solved like hiring mods and firing managers. But a change in creative direction is different because that means some of them may or may not agree with this and thus ultimately leave Hololive as well. Which means more graduation. You can already see that Coco has been playing games on her alt that you thought she would on her alt but won't. But if she starts a series that is like Asacoco revamped then you know this is the case.

>>4889328
This isn't about her. It's about her co worker. She can take the spam but she hate to see her friends being targeted because of her. Get this through your thick skull.

>>4894613
Play games that you thought she would play as Coco bug don't. She plays them on her alt

>>4889328
They weren't just mean comments. They were literal death/rape threats. Bug people are unstable so she is rightfully scared that one will come harm her.

>>4889328
Doesn't matter if you're thin-skinned if your bosses are

>>4889328
I can’t help but get the impression people are intentionally memory holing that time she broke down on stream cause management gave spammers mod and they began banning long time viewers. Sure you could argue it's a combination of things, and I’d be inclined to agree with you on that, but ignoring the role of chink spamming harassing for months on end and attacking others when she had the audacity to hang out with her friends when talking about her reasons for graduation seems willfully dishonest.

>>4889328
It's a diversion. The real issue is that Coco was power harassed and isolated until she agreed to quit, at which point they allowed her a last hurrah. This is also why she hedged her bets with her milfdom channel, because she knew the writing was in the wall courtesy of garbage management.

The antis didn't do this. It was cover the whole time. They threw her under the bus to avoid taking responsibility for not discussing Chinese geopolitics with their employees and then martyred Coco in hopes of getting Chinese sponsorships simply because she was American.

You can tell this was the case because Haachama, a native japanese girl from an influential family, got off without consequences. Even ollie, who moaned like a whore while getting fucked on stream, suffered no consequences because she's also a rich indo bitch.

This was unbridled corruption, jingoism, power harassment and targeted anti-americanism on full display. Fuck the antis. This is cover's doing and they're solely responsible for Coco's graduation.

>>4889328
Mean comments lol

This board is purely filled to the brim with braindead Chink insects it actually amazes me that too many Chink CCP bug bots here keep doing damage control and shilling for CCP

>>4889415
based

>>4894892
Ching chong pinp pong

>>4889328
How does cover's cock taste?

>>4889328
>no one talk about 2ch haters power
ogey

>>4894955
>>4889415

ching ching chnng ling xiang

Chink insects on damage control mode

>>4894921
I see you're talking about >>4894964

>>4894989
chink defends cover
t. zhang logic

seriously where're you come from?

>>4894892
She wouldn't have graduated from creative differences alone. That is her personal cope and rrat.
Antis started everything. China was the reason for the harassment, which then led to power harassment etc. from Cover.

>>4894992
no im sure you are a mutt/anglo chink defending chinks camouflaging it with using dumb geopolitical rhetoric. otherwise a dumb sjw. i dont trust anyone who doensnt even criticise chink spammers or pretends to not know about it, chink bug.

>>4889415
I will be honest, she was fucking stagnant for a long time, the same fucking reddit jokes week in and week out. And Asacoco? What's stopping her from pre recording videos and doing anything with them whilst still following guidelines? She was still under the same rules as Haachama who went out for a mindbreak journey for her audience

>>4895122
haachama actually got in big trouble with her videos, and was thinking of quiting as well,

asacoco is completely banned, and coco herself was placed on a higher restriction list,

you guys are fucking retards if you think she enjoys reddit reviews

>>4894892
>for not discussing Chinese geopolitics with their employees
Ayy lmao zhang convincing post but you ain’t fooling no one.

>>4894892
Stop taking asian Keemstar's words for facts, or at least provide evidence, something that he didn't.

>>4889328
it's more management throwing her to the Wolves, Why be in a company when there's literally no benefit and only downsides?

>>4895148
It worked out in the end, the rules made sure that "depictions of self harm" wouldn't be okay, but they still let her continue on until the finale, and what? Are you saying that Coco, the "genius limit pusher" just keeled over instead of actually doing something creative to get around the management?

>>4894892
>isolated until she agreed to quit
She's been collabing with all sorts of people for months now. She missed some stuff sure, but that was a direct result of chink harassment - the same chinks that you completely absolve.
>Fuck the antis.
You clearly are an anti. I get people saying cover played a part in it, though personally I don't much agree, but claiming that they are solely responsible is simply deranged. Let's be honest, you're just trying to maximise the damage this does to hololive, either because you don't like hololive for whatever reason, or you're a thirsty dramafag drowning in rrats.

>>4895270
they aren't absolved here. They just aren't what's important. If your landlord tears up your roof right before a hurricane and then your apartment gets flooded, you don't blame the fucking weather. The Chinese are weather.

>>4895122
chink shut up. you dont even know the kanatas version of asacoco also got canceled.

go back to your chink colony, chink insect

>>4895361
>They aren't absolved here.
>Now here's why they shouldn't take any blame.
Fuck off zhang.

Holy shit. Why they are so many Covershill here? How many RMB did Yagoo paid you?

>>4895418
nobody is defending cover, you braindead chink bug. just squishing you chink insects

>>4889853
You can point out people who have never worked a day in their lives by them calling coco thin skinned.

>>4895264
They forbid her from doing anything with EN for months after the collab ban was lifted. She was in the EN recruitment video for godsake. It's clear Cover was making her time at Hololive a drag.

>>4895522
the main cause of that is chink insects, you fucking chink scum

>>4895522
They were trying to isolate EN and the rest of hololive from the bugman abuse. It's a pretty obvious thing to do, and coco herself mentioned more than once being reluctant to collab because she didn't want her friends to get infected with the chink curse. Rewriting this as if coco desperately wanted to collab but the evil corporation was stopping her to bully her is just a retarded rrat, it's all in your head.

>>4894622
>Coco = Rengoku
>Coco is stronger than you'll ever hold to be. Much stronger.
>Chinks didn't win against her
>She kept her friends safe
>She fought to the very end
>So no one would be sad
>Coco is the true victor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwriFosLRww

>>4889328
no, but I believe there definitively are thin skinned naive employees of Cover who think they can get back their sponsorships if they just manage to fire the dragon

>>4895597
Please, you sound like a little bitch being so intimidated by those bugs. Cover being so greedy to want bug bux, now that's the problem we might be facing. Even if the zhangs aren't involved, there's something seriously going wrong inside Cover if one of their most influential chuubas is leaving on their own accord. She did so much to grow and promote Hololive, and in the end they had nothing for her. Lack of support at best, sabotage at worst. Their motives remain unknown but there's always bugbux.

>>4895418
Cover did nothing wrong

>>4895753
Ching chong ping pong peng. Not criticising Chink bug spammers in the slightest.

>>4895122
Kanata's asacoco got canceled after 1 episode. Pekora, Marine, and Korone didn't even see the light of day. The only one who has a recurring creative series is Polka. Just her. She already said for months that her projects are getting rejected. We have been waiting for a new show.

>>4895449
Nice try Covershill. I hope Yagoo paid you enough to feed your family in Shenzhen.

>>4895639
>Rewriting this as if coco desperately wanted to collab but the evil corporation was stopping her to bully her is just a retarded rrat, it's all in your head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiuR2Gga60
>I do want to collab with the ENs, ask them!
>Maybe someone is stopping us
>Guess someone hates me!
It's not a rrat if its true. The bugs were never a threat to EN, it was just some blanket excuse for literally everything even months after the raids passed. What? Are they supposed to be on constant alert that bug raids could affect them months after 3 EN girls hit 1 mill subs? Now that's retarded.

>>4895885
To be fair Watame was doing WataUta for quite some time (and probably only quit cause of Coco leaving), and has seemingly moved on to an exercise show. It seems like after the big yab happened on Asacoco management is far more hawkish about these recurring shows and their content.

>>4894587

yeah why are people so retarded.

do people not realize why they choise a very secure place to move and why coco bought a tazer?

>>4895752
Like what of sponsorships are they missing? Azur lane and Muse Dash? They have shills from square enix, Capcom and xbox. Do you really think they need that money? Anyone does not need a master's degree to know that their popularity are coming from their reputation as a brand. Which is of course the company that dropped China. If they come back it will cause so much outrage they will lose more than what they have earned. And Yes. They have earned millions of dollars since leaving China

>>4895408
the only zhang here is you insect

>>4895264

haachama literally has a senator as a father,
her family is rich as hell,

same reason why she was allowed to get away with the taiwan incident.

haachama is allowed to get away with a lot of things that can get people fired,
same with miko as well,

>>4895954
Watame is so good cloacking her oji mode I am impressed. Her projects are always harmless.

>>4895911
you can share the perspective "cover>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chink insects" with me at leas, cant you. after solving the chink vermin plague issue, we can mindlessly and openly criticise cover ofc. the first issue here is however how to eradicate chink bugs since the insects are much fucking worse than covers management. ofc you can share this with me unless you are a filthy braindead ccp bot. so for starters, lets talk about how to kill all those chink bugs.

>>4894587
holy shit please spoonfeed source

>>4896007
I'm a zhang because I'm blaming the zhangs, instead of absolving them like the other retards that are trying to do as much damage to hololive as they can? Sure, makes sense.

>>4889328
No, not at all, which is why she was fine taking the abuse for so long. The breaking point was when they started going after her friends (the recent Aqua incident). She was fine shouldering that burden herself but she couldn't stand to see her friends suffer.

>>4896025
whoa, what the rrat on Miko?

>>4896089
Noone was suffering. Flare showed that. Only Korone cried because she's turning on member chat before. Noone actually cares if there is spam on chat because filters can be set.

>>4889328
she did cry about it at one point

>>4895927
>The bugs were never a threat to EN

haahfhahfhhah
chink, thats NOT how to run business. "it aint happening so its safe" is a shut-in neets view

Cover cucking her ideas, not doing enough to protect her and other members from zhangs, yeah it's no wonder why she wanted to graduate

>>4896137
I'm talking about Aqua specifically. Aqua is obviously not all mentally there and took the abuse very hard.

>>4896102
she's sick

>>4894892
This

>>4896137
Everyone was more concerned about Coco. Flare said she was more concerned that Coco might think it was her fault when in fact chinks are just retards. That is why it makes sense for Coco to not want to show up in big events. But everyone has been so accommodating to include her in. But since official holo activities are invite only not mandated, if she declines management can't do shit. This has been the setup for several months now. So that means chink shit is the least of her reasons to leave.

>>4896192
Well yeah, we all knew that. I was wondering why he thinks Miko has the clout to get away with stuff that can get other people fired. Is it just pity because she is going to die soon?

>>4895927
Same clip:
>They have to be defensive because of the things that happened to me (zhangs)
>If it was me in holoEN and someone like me wanted to collab, me or my manager might say no, it's too dangerous, don't do it
>It's OK to be defensive because we're working as a team.

>>4896204
If noone noticed, she was in holofest. Everyone was okay with her there. She was probably manhandled with love by Miko and Mio to join. This is peak chink spam.

>>4896184
This is a mix of apex retards and chinks. Mostly apex retards.

>>4895698
Coco is guts. Cover is Griffith. The covershills are casca. Nijiniggers just got vindicated to the fucking moon. Cover really was a black company the whole time.

>>4895828
What? You want me to bow down to the almighty bug? Not if your life depended on it. I refuse to give them that credit. In fact if I had a button that would obliterate the entirety of West Taiwan I would press it without a second thought. What I can't understand is why Cover would fail so drastically at supporting one their most popular and beloved talents. I mean they failed her hard, full stop. What's that pastebin that's been floating around for a year? "things cover should do for their talents"? It's alarming how much truth there was in that.

>>4896162
You're an ESL so this might be hard for you to understand. The Chink spam to the EN viewers would be like pissing in an ocean of piss. But do go on about how to run a business, I'm sure the 'small indie company pls andastandu' agency would love to hear your ideas.

>>4896277
Holo sports fest i mean

>>4896322
you are either an amerimutt sjw indie vtwitter loser or a chink bug. chink bugs and sjws share the same anti japan perspective sjws see japan as more "problematic" than chink commie trash.

>>4896233
Yagoo told her she's the protagonist of Hololive anime so she might die near the end but it should be pretty heroic.

>>4896322
You know that all of the girls heard her reasons right? They tried multiple times to find resolutions to whatever it is that is pushing her to graduate. All of them conceded because in the end Coco wanted to graduate. She wants to move on. She wants to be an indie. She's happier as Kson. Just accept that. Be it chinks. Be it incompetence. Be it lack of creativite freedom. Be it all three. In the end none of those matter because Coco herself wants to move on now. That's the point here.

>>4896244
>If it was me in holoEN and someone like me wanted to collab, me or my manager might say no, it's too dangerous, don't do it
Oh I saw that part, and I still think it was cope. In another zatsudan she said EN management was straight up ghosting her, leaving her to speculate as to why. I believe she realized how bad it sounded when she hinted that management was treating her like shit, and tried to spin it as their way of 'protecting the new talent'. At the very least it shows Cover was not communicating with Coco.

Hololive is the next dotlive and gamebu. They flew too close to the sun, got greedy and pissed away all the good will they had with fans by abusing one of their most globally popular talents into quitting.

Thinking of the talents who invested so much to build up the company is heartbreaking. They finally made it only to have Cover itself shit all over everything they accomplished and burn their brand image to the ground.

If the talents literally burn cover Corp to the ground, I genuinely don't think a single tear would be shed.

>>4896322
>why Cover would fail so drastically at supporting one their most popular and beloved talents.

are you fucking dumb? have you ever actually seen the real chink insects spamming in the jp chats? seems youve never seen it.

>>4896460
All three major possible reasons for her to leave had resolutions that can be done to resolve them but she's giving up now and ending things with a bang. She wants to move on. She already said that she's going to be a super star after Coco. Let's just accept that.

>>4896460
Yeah I'm sure there was no pressure on her whatsoever.
Either way, once this month is over if we start getting regular activity from lady K and it's somewhere in between her old content and the dragon's I expect most people will move on.
If she reincarnates even better.
If she makes her own group a million people will cum buckets.
Either way I'm going to be watching Hololive less.

>>4894892
You mean when Ollie got fingerblasted during phasmaphobia or was there another occurrence?

>>4896494
Unfortunately I don't see it being talked about in official channels at all. There's no mention of the CCP anniversary stuff, it's all just, "Oh how sad that Coco wants to move on, but let's be positive, nothing to see here"
Cover will probably get away with it

>>4896494
pure anti, nijinigger, or zhang. Hard to tell which one you are.

>>4896460
You're absolutely right. Her roommate's channel grew 5 times since her announcement, so I'm happy for her. But in regards to OP, looking back at the last 6 months, there's no way it was JUST the bug spam. There might be something else that will eventually lead to another Holo leaving, but I'm done speculating.

>>4896534
and don't forgot that the Canadians also have a national holiday!

I really hope that she was just a bit frustrated by some of the shit that happened & found a better opportunity elsewhere that is more stable long term than vtubing that she decided to take on.
Reality fucking sucks and that probably isn't true, but the truth will eventually come out. I can only hope whatever position she is in makes her happy

>>4896523
As far as I can tell, there was a lot of pressure from the girls themselves begging her to stay. Luna was so astounded that she would even consider it.

>>4896559
>there's no way it was JUST the bug spam.

funny that posters like you always try to underestimate chink bugs and dont know anything about holo jp other than coco and haato. eop monkey argument.

>>4896468
>Everything that agrees with the rrat is true and should be interpreted in the least charitable way possible.
>Everything that disagrees with the rrat should be disregarded.
Yep, that's usually how rrats go.

>>4894989
I really don't understand why people on this board keep implying blaming cover equals defending bugs.

Sure, those mindless drone is annoying, but it is cover's decision to deny coco on the official channel, prohibit EN collabs, "mistakenly put bugs into the mod list" and more.

>>4896505
ESLchama, your critical thinking skills. What has Cover done to protect the jp chats? Oh that's right, they "accidently" made them moderators of Coco's chat. Huh, interesting.

>>4896460
I get massive false flag vibes from this, so it's more than obvious by now that the shills are cover antis. Possibly nijiniggers. The only reason they're so annoying is because they're spouting off the official company position. When your antis are false flagging your company with your own public narratives, that's when you oughta know how massively you're fucked up.

Cover has never had more than 0 days without scandal, and I think Coco's graduation just eviscerated the last few droplets of patience people had for them. When you fuck everything up in terms of talent management and then axe a beloved staple, the line between incompetence and malice completely disappears. Cover's failure will go down in vtubing history and be forgotten until the next flash in the pan startup repeats these mistakes all over again.

>>4896596
Yeah, the reaction of the other members kind of destroys the "Cover mistreated her and forced her out" rrat. They were genuinely shocked and tried to convince her to stay.

>>4896587
Just watch an archive of Kson. She just had her birthday the other day. She's doing absolutely fine. She's over 400k subs now

>>4896596
I'm not doubting that her colleagues wanted her to stay and wanted to help. It's also functionally irrelevant, beyond the bit of moral support that it is.
If the entirety of management is a squad of braindead "profit driven" fuckheads that abuses her and wants her gone that's what matters. Some nice words from friends aren't going to offset months of fights with management.

>>4896646
Which is exactly what they would be told to say. There's really no way to know for sure.

>>4896508
You mean she could start her own chuuba agency as a side project and Cover would be just fine with that?

>>4889328

i mean she streamed almost for a full year after the taiwan incident. and she announced it weeks ahead of time. she was always a troublemaker but its not entirely her fault that shes being Kojima'd now. Cover may survive but this blow will leave a mark.

>>4896233
she didn't audition, she was select picked by management and has a select few privileges the other members don't, also shes been in the company before hololive was created as well

>>4896625
how casual are you? you literally know nothing about what was going on there and youve never seen chink insects spamming in real time ofc. or just pretending.

go back to your chinky chinky chink colony, chink bug

>>4896527
Yeah. Moaning, breathing heavily and laughing nervously for two whole hours culminating in a thank you kiss. She probably got off on getting pleasure while streaming. Makes towa look like even more of an angel. This was unironically the canary in the coal mine, in more ways than one.

>>4896685
If nothing else happens as a direct result of this and no dirt comes out Hololive will manage. It's a hit but one they can absolutely survive.

>>4896626
Chill with your hyperbole. Lol. You don't know anything yet. We have to wait what happens after a month or so. If Kson starts regularly streaming in YT, acts like usual and No CN market shills happens then we know that everyone was overreacting with their rrat. That it was just Coco really wanting to graduate and do her own thing on her own terms.

>>4896460
>>4896508
>lets just accept it
>lets just accept it

>lets just accept it

>lets just accept it
>Anonymous 06/10/21(Thu)15:28:58 No.4896460▶>>4896508 >>4896523 >>4896559 >>4896626
>>4896322
>lets just accept it
>lets just accept it

>>4895954
>big yab happened on Asacoco
what was that again? it's been a while, I'm drawing a blank

>>4896626
How does your mind become so twisted that you actually believe the people defending cover are the cover antis, and you, the guy that thinks cover is evil and must be destroyed, are not a cover anti? Genuinely curious about the shit you must go through in life to make you this way.

>>4896726
Accept it? I'm livid, but the fuck do you want ME to do other than distance myself from Hololive and follow lady K?

>>4896684
You must not be aware of thd people that graduated from holostars. They are doing their own roommate stuff. Even holostar roomates and Polka's roommate as well

>>4889328
No, I think it's a combination of all. The harassment, friend's getting targeted, uncooperative management & little creative freedom. Maybe even money cause she have enough.

>>4896649
I figure everything will end up ok for her (especially since the Kson account blew up since the announcements). I just hope the whole thing was her choice & not some push by Cover to attempt getting back into the Chinese market greedly on my part because if they do try crawling back to China my oshi will be be gone in just a few months

>>4896747
Mind you. I'm not defending Cover. They absolutely have had incompetent managers but I am moving on already at this point. Because mitigation can only really happen if the other person wants to cooperate which means Coco wanting to stay. But she doesn't. She repeatedly said in many ways and forms to other girls that she doesn't want to anymore. Cover still needs to fix their internal issues so that these kind of stuff won't happen. Especially the creative liberties that they can do. I swear, Pekora is one meltdown away from quitting.

>>4896827
There is absolutely no way this is to go back to China. They burned that bridge. If they tried not only would they fail in China, they would lose the home market and the west too.
No fucking way. Fuck cover but they're not THAT stupid. And they're fucking stupid, that's how retarded of a decision that would be, even for them.

>>4896729
nothing. hes a typical EOP Chink cunt

>>4896729
The hanging Kanata one with a forest background.

>>4896859
If 4chan retards like us can read the room, imagine people that do this for a living. They made a stance. They have to stick to their guns. Unless they are THAT stupid. Meh.

>>4896729
Exactly. It was a nothingburger. She put up youtube analytics that showed Taiwan vpns were tuning en masse and chinks threw a shit fit over the consequences of their own actions. Then Cover management started this whole fiasco when they blamed Coco for it.

China expected them to educate their talent on one China policy given that cover was in bed with China, and cover juat didn't. That's why they needed a patzy to save their own asses. Haachama was too rich so Coco had to take all the blame for both their snafus. It didn't work and cover had to cut off China anyway. That led to months of retaliatory power harassment until Coco broke down and agreed to resign.

If chama stays in hololive her reputation is shot for benefitting from class privilege. Fubuki looks like a liar and a whore if she stays. The rest of the talent look like selfish amoral sellouts. Cover permanently demolished the reputations of their entire roster all to avoid admitting to China that they didn't actually care about the one China policy. Had they just done the dogeza in private themselves, the issue would've been put to rest quietly.

>>4894989
Chinks are subhumans and should be exterminated, but Cover absolutely fucked this up.

>>4896859
It would almost definitely lead to a massive exodus of talent & a lot of the fanbase ditching. I just doubt Cover's ability to make decisions as a company that badly.

>>4896827
ching chong peng ping pong long?

>>4896615
>Coco literally says management won't respond to her leaving her to speculate why.
You must have a lot of unanswered emails for you to think of that as a rrat. It's not normal, anon.

>>4896707
I have no doubt your schizo mind is convinced you've seen every Hololive stream in the past 6 months, but at worst the spam was walls of text composed of incomprehensible ELS blabbering (much like your posts.) Nightbot and an active moderator was literally all it took to snuff their raids out. But that support never really came. Why? I'm surprised you haven't been quick to blame YouTube, but your ESL brain has to work overtime to talk to me, so I'll forgive that.

>>4896847
I agree, cover certainly has flaws that they need to fix. But these guys with the
>cover is evil and must be destroyed. Everyone that defends them is an anti. Burn it down. BURN IT ALL DOWN.
Have to just be antis, dramafags, or zhangs themselves right? I don't believe for a moment these people genuinely liked hololive before this stuff happened.

>>4896494
now that i think about it, this is spot on. all of them grew to be extremely successful, was loved by other vtubers and fans alike, but then management and talents come into disagreement and have conflicts, leading to talents leaving the companies. in other words, fuck corporations

Cover touched China when they should have touched grass.
Anyone defending management or PRC isn't a human being.

>>4896924
rrat

>>4896933
ogey zhang.

>>4896859
>Fuck cover but they're not THAT stupid. And they're fucking stupid, that's how retarded of a decision that would be, even for them.
They were stupid enough to graduate Coco just to avoid doing the dogeza themselves. They are stupid enough to re-court Chinese money. Their talent will suffer immensely from the backlash. The fucking feels, man. To think cover would betray their entire roster. What absolute scumbags.

>>4889328
>>4889415
I know you are autistic retards that dont interact with women but take it from someone who has at the very least talked to a few women that outgoing "strong" women can be just as fragile as the most introverted ones. Most women aren't built to take that sort of harassment no matter how false and bullshit it is. Really more than the bugmen it was the lack of support from Cover that would have really hurt, moderating the chat would have taken almost zero effort and could have been done for free via autists from her fanbase. Cover is 100% to blame.

>>4896943
This is bait btw. Just want people to know that

>>4896391
The difference is that when Miko said the N word, hololive got popular, but when Coco said the T word, chinks lost their minds for almost a year.

>>4896897
not only cover because realistically speaking, the main issue is actually an internet security issue. unless youtubes chat is improved the fundamental issue is never solved.

also why is this board low key defending youtube and their woke trash? nobody is pointing out that youtube didnt upload other holo memebers chat. they somehow only updated cocos chat. i know they were testing shit there but they didnt make any move for a month

>>4896983
What is funny is that there is actually a subscriber filter. Mori used it. Chinks disappeared.

>>4896983
We know Youtube is shit, slow and usually every update they make is for the worse.
That they even had a decent solution to test is uncharacteristic for them.

>>4896983
Sorry this experimental feature was rushed to deal with your wheelbarrow garbage.
Please enjoy it soon coming to all deliveries.

>>4889328
For a day, week, or even month? No.
Eight straight months of concentrated retardation of sub human insectoid chinks? Yes. Being constantly bombarded, or rather your presence causing your coworkers and friends to be bombarded will do you in quick.
Though, more likely it isn't the sub-human insectoid chinks in her chat that brought her down, but the sub-human insectoid chinks in management.

>>4896959
How many of the people sperging out about this even watched coco? She's had members of her fanbase as moderators in her chat for months.

>>4896959
Dude. The chinks issue was done a couple of months ago. Where have you been. Spam can easily be filtered out. No holo member actually cares about putting chat on member's mode. This aint bilibili.

>>4896911
im an esl ofc. however im super fluent in japanese. you dont even realise that your eop argument always centers around coco and haato and rrats against cover management from your fucking dumb woke and chinky perspective and try to criticise holo jp more than chinks. go back to the anglo/chink cesspit reddit seriously.

>>4897042
>>4897056
I swear. All of these people are just coming from the Narutard vid that listed a copypasta that happened all since Jan2021. All issues were already resolved long before she made her decision.

>>4897056
The wheelbarrow still rolled against all friends of Coco. Wherever they found a crack, the bugs swarmed like in your message.

>>4896711
What are you talking about, anon ?

>>4897102
This bug talks in a mirror.

>>4897109
Are you dumb? It happens. Noone gave a shit. She's been featured in other channels long before they she had mods. They just put member only on

>>4896527
Source?

>>4889328
no, but the stress of the constant garbage interfering with her stream every damn time can wear on her.
it definitely isn't though, the comments on her followup stream and from other holos imply this would've happened regardless. she's likely seeking higher ambition.

>>4896924
The most horrifying thing is the fact that nijisanji, the biggest CCP cocksuckers around, don't suffer these issues. You might not even be able to blame China for this one. This appears to be more of an issue with cover's own inherent managerial inadequacies given that it's uncomfortably similar to the dotlive and gamebu scandals. And we know it's not universal to startup agencies because voms, 774 and tamaki's gang are all doing well.

Antis were literal criminals violating CCP law. The actual CCP agency doesn't mistreat its own English speaking vtubers. Other startups didn't light themselves on fire like Hololive. When taken in totality, the end stage of Coco grief is accepting that China really dindu nuffin and that her benefactors at cover corp were the true villains all along.

>>4897154
Block comments = solution. The idiocy of a subhuman.

>>4897151
Sure thing dramafag

>>4896983
They literally just needed looser regulations on the girls appointing mods. When Suisei temporarily modded a few of her long term members, it immediately cleaned up her chat.

>>4897102
Something needs to be done about him. I'm sure Hololive and Nijisanji have enough clout with youtube that if they approached youtube together they could get him permanently blacklisted from the site. That way his only method to spread his tabloid bullshit would be some blog that only like 20 people would visit.

She is leaving for the other girls sake, the fucking chinks have been spamming in their chats also
and Cover is just overall incompetent as a company to just fucking try to stop it
from what it sounds like Mio and maybe others tried to get her not to leave

>>4897181
Without denial. Grass.

>>4897190
First tool of the bug is suppression.

>>4897096
I'm also ""super"" fluent in Japanese, but that's just irrelevant. The OP is dedicated to the topic of Coco and why she left, hence why we're talking about that. I'm not even sure there's a language barrier at this point, you're just stupid.

>>4897184
>>4897180
Because we all know that the spam was easy to fix. Management took long enough to fix it but it was fixed. Suisei was so nonchalant about it. Noone gives a shit chinkman. You can delude yourself that you did something though. Keep doing that.

>>4897206
>Mio and maybe others tried to get her not to leave
Crabs in a bucket

>>4897056
>>4897042
>>4897102
>ITS PURE COINCIDENCE GOYIM THAT THE MAIN TARGET FOR CHINESE HARASSMENT IS THE ONLY ONE TO GRADUATE
Do you seriously expect anyone to believe this narrative bugmen?

>>4897173 is DARVO at work. Take notes, folks.

>>4897468
You're missing the point (at least my point). I'm pointing out that coco had mods therefore it isn't cover's fault for not having mods like the anon I replied to claimed. Personally I think the chinks are responsible for most of this, and the remaining "blame" for the graduation is simply coco's personal/creative choice. I think the people sperging at cover are retarded.

>>4897702
Cover literally made the antis mods first "by mistake" touristchama.

>>4897224
じゃあ、今から全部日本語で会話すっか。まあ100パーセントお前の負けになるけど

I never gave a fuck about her in the first place. JP hags are all boring trash.

>>4897702
clueless retard, why are you wasting your time debating over shit you know nothing about?

>>4897836
くたばれカス、日本語で勝負って小学生かお前は

>>4898659
レスするまで時間かかりすぎwww
つーかなんでお前ずっと中華のこと必死にかばってんの?この掲示板、素で五毛が多すぎて、もうぶっ壊れてるとかしいいようがない。多分intよりも酷いな

>>4889328
She probably found herself a rich man to grift off in real life.

>>4898722
俺はお前をリプしたやつじゃない
お前の日本語の自慢が子供っぽいすぎるだけだ。そんなにすごいことではないからな＾＾;
あと、
お前は一生日本人になれない

>>4894892
Meds asap you sound like a lunatic

>>4889537
100% dont want to waste your double college degree entertaining some fucking anon as a cringe anime girl.

>>4898812
じゃあ首つっこんでくんな。自慢もくそも最初にESLどうこう言い出しのが、その五毛だろ。それに実際に日本語でしゃべらないと、黙らないからな

>>4896626
>fuck everything up in terms of talent management and then axe a beloved staple
malice and axed your talent out of her will was what up8 did to Oda Nobuhime. For whatever incompetence cover did, it's all on Coco to decide her graduation. dont cope to hard and move on goddamit! she is not fuckin dead ffs!

Timeline
-From what Suisei shared is that Coco was already sitting on this idea of quitting. Probably because of the spam.
-Choco, Mio and Miko all tried to stop her from leaving multiple times. I think it's believable that this is true because they did do a number of collabs where Coco was in.
-Suisei shared that management did everything that they could to stop her. Maybe the live 2D updates and costumes. Chink spam rectification. Lamy also shared that she knows that Coco and Rushia had a contract renegotiation that gave both girls a better SC cut.
-Botan shared that they even though they knew Coco was graduating they didn't take it seriously because she hasn't told the date. This is probably how all of them treated it. They were hopeful they wouldn't push through.
-Last month we got a surge of depressed holos. So this can be confirmed when Coco announced the date of her graduation and when she will officially announce it.

So this can be said that 50% is Chink spam because Coco waited until the problem was fixed. Which it did. 50% restrictions because Coco did go on to express that her projects isn't going to see the light of day because they were being denied. If she had something to hold unto aside from Meme review. I think she may have stayed.

>>4899089
>Timeline
>-From what Suisei shared is that Coco has been sitting on this idea of quitting since last year. Probably because of the spam.
>-Choco, Mio and Miko all tried to stop her from leaving multiple times. I think it's believable that this is true because they did do a number of collabs where Coco was in.
>-Suisei shared that management did everything that they could to stop her. Maybe the live 2D updates and costumes. Chink spam rectification. Lamy also shared that she knows that Coco and Rushia had a contract renegotiation that gave both girls a better SC cut.
>-Botan shared that they even though they knew Coco was graduating they didn't take it seriously because she hasn't told the date. This is probably how all of them treated it. They were hopeful they wouldn't push through.
>-Last month we got a surge of depressed holos. So this can be confirmed when Coco announced the date of her graduation and when she will officially announce it.
>So this can be said that 50% is Chink spam because Coco waited until the problem was fixed. Which it did. 50% restrictions because Coco did go on to express that her projects isn't going to see the light of day because they were being denied. If she had something to hold unto aside from Meme review. I think she may have stayed.

>>4896494
You do not understand. Gamebu and dotlive didn't have mass of redditor fans who will eat anything up. Cover will get away with all the shit they did to coco

The only thing I’m confused about is the graduation itself. If Coco had 1mil+ subs and was the top donation earner on YouTube, why would she willingly quit? But the other side to this is that if cover forced her to, why would they be getting rid of one of their most popular talents and money earners? None of it adds up.

>>4899172
She quit but was pressured into it. If you ever worked in a hostile place you know how it is.
Cover doesn't want her because she "makes trouble" for the shareholders.

>>4899219
Yeah I'm actually puzzled people don't recognize the signs. I've been in shitty workplaces where I quit to take a much worse paying job because it just wasn't worth the significant mental stress working the job put on me.

>>4899089
>50% restrictions
that 50% is your woke rrat. funny you woke chinky retard always ONLY talk about what happened to coco even though other members projects often get canceled too. the reasons are many, you cant expose the details, but you always have to defend woketube and their puritanical standards ofc as well. so all of your "i hate cover so much" fact checks always have to be either woke or chink leaning.

go back and tweet that shit on twitter, woke vtwitter

>>4899172
Suisei just confirmed that everyone even Cover was trying to do their best be it in such an incompetent level to stop her from leaving as early as last year. So all the costume updates, holoalt and SC profit cut change for Coco was probably to appease her. She still decided to go. Possibility of it being that she is just not getting approved to the projects that she wanted. She has been vocal about it and fans has been waiting for a new asacoco. If she had something to hold unto she may have stayed. As far as earning, she gets bigger cut being indie. She has been testing for months streaming as Kson. When she opened the memberships for her YT and a lot joined in, that was probably an indicator for her that her fans will still support her

>>4899258
What are you on about. Coco's main draw is her creative content. Not streaming games. Her not being able to move forward with what she wanted probably put a lot weight on her leaving. All of the projects that got cancelled were all for talents that were gaming focused like Pekora and Korone. Marine does a lot of zatsudans but mainly games as well. Coco did all of those but her draw was asacoco and the meme review

>>4899172
>>4899219
For Japan, it's more acts of ostracism than outright bullying or harassments. Neglect, ignore, and exclude is how it's being done.

>>4899115
If you want to add to rrat, you might as well add this https://streamable.com/1fq1y4
Kanatan said 「決めることがあるからでしょ」 which now can be rrat into decision to stay or go (after this stream was around the time her side content came back streaming).

Also, not being invited to New Year's countdown on the Holo main channel and Coco outright saying "I didn't know, I wasn't invited" was an open back-and-forth from JP culture. You just don't do that, from both sides.

>>4899258
Other members pissed the fuck out too over that. Pekora was extremely upset on her member chat over it. I'm not Marine oshi so if anyone can add her reaction to her projects being cancelled, please do.

>>4899361
i dont want to be on either side of the rat here but we got very recently Korone staying up all night because something Marine was doing got fucking shit canned for <reasons>, which Marine had actually been sinking her own money into, and time, and effort. Then back in September we had Subaru's 3d birthday get shitcanned, which required Mio and some troops to get Subaru over that, which Subaru had been preparing for with dance lessons and singing lessons for like four five months before the event. I guess with asacoco, coco could have just been making it in her apartment, and so it requires a lot less than a fully booked studio, but like fuck this fuck that at the expense of the talent's feelings has been happening / does happen / continues to happen

>>4899361
Coco did meme review after she got restricted though. Her early appearances are collabs after collabs I think

>>4899479
What was Cover's stated reason for Subaru's birthday stream cancellation?

why is it called graduate just say I'm leaving or something

>>4899528
The only thing I know about the event is that they just couldnt do it at time, and then they i guess couldn't get her into the office ever again after the date because the studio was seriously booked for an entire year. i mean fuck maybe it was subaru's fault because she ran didn't think to tell them i'm going to go do dance lessons for five months to do my birthday stream and so told them too late. but, like, throwing my hands up

>>4899548
It's cultural difference, like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae

>>4899361
>Coco's main draw is her creative content
only coco? really? creative? tell me your standards of being creative as a vtuber. you talk like others arent creative except for....ofc your eop idol haato.

> Pekora and Korone. Marine does a lot of zatsudans

heh? do you even know most of those zatsudans are "superchat reading" that also coco was doing. asacoco is just hololive news. if making a unique content/collab means being creative, then, miko is probably the most creative person in holo jp since she constantly produces a weird funny collab. also for example, arent pekoras mc streams and contents creative compared to cocos? what about marines funny collabs like this? she can draw shit herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgd4-yRdR8U

i enjoy coco and haato, but im honestly fed up that you eops only treat coco and haato as creative gods or something like that.

>>4899479
That's why it ain't exactly all the spam that made her decision.

>>4899493
I know. But she couldn't anything more. She has been teasing for months that she wants to do more.

>>4899603
Why would you get pissed at eops? Kek. eop contributed to our oshis getting bigger supachats. It's good.

Coco is dating/is about to be married. She has enough money to support herself and her future family so she is leaving Hololive to pursue her role as a future mother

>>4899603
Are you on drugs? Noone is comparing who is more creative. It's the content itself that they want produce or show is the problem thus they were tanked. So was Coco's proposals

>>4899652
that would actually be rad, but how did kanata impregnate her

>>4899172
Ye, this is similar to what Konami did to Hideo Kojima. Instead of outright firing him, they make his workplace become so hostile that he left the company on his own accord.

>>4899647
i dont shit on eops if they arent sharing shit with chink insects. they however are being total useful idiots without realising they are supporting chinnks anti japan agendas.

>>4899655
tell me your standards of being creative then. asacoco is just a hololive news stream. i liked it but it doesnt need to be seen as "gods work"

>>4899826
it all makes sense. cover masterfully crafted all of this shit just to get us attached to their characters so they could then turn them into pachinko shit. fuck!

i felt really bad man, like i got stab in the heart but if that's her decision then let's respect it

seriously without her hololive wouldn't be big to the west and think its some weird shit japanese people enjoy

She just got tired of Cover's incompetence. Shitty ass company is too busy sucking off chink's dick and can't protect their talents.

>>4899829
Noone is saying it's God's work you fucking retard. We are talking about Coco and her reasons to graduate which means we are talking about her possible motivations to do so. She clearly has been stagnating and is only being carried by her meme review. She was also teasing projects that she said she wanted to do. None of them was approved. It's obviously creative differences that didn't align with the new content policies that Cover has. Her content is her own. You can't fucking compare that any other Hololive. There projects getting rejected as well is also just an indication that their projects didn't conform to the policies and safeguards that the company set for them. Do you fucking understand that? Or is that too many big words for you??? You dumb shit.

>>4900286
not only did cocos projects get canceled but also many others. dont you even know about it? you eops only watch coco and haatos streams. have no clue at all about other members and what theyve been doing. if you want to grow out of eop rrats, simply, learn japanese and more about hololive jp before sperging out.

>>4900398
Just because their projects were cancelled does not mean she's not allowed to fucking complain about it nor have it as a motivation to move out. If all of your friends commit suicide, will you fucking commit suicide too? This is not a fucking hivemind. There are several reasons why people stay and move on. And as far as Coco, all of her struggles were all about the spam and her projects being rejected.

>>4900398
You're so blinded by your hatred you don't realize your point backs up Coco. If everyone is getting their projects shitcanned, maybe management sucks and Coco is the only one with the courage to exit because of that?

>>4900621
Coco has extra restrictions put on her that others don't have to deal with.

>>4900593
you are moving the goalposts too much. your main argument was "cover cancels its members projects when they are creative", and you blame cover for being anti creative and criticises the "anti-creative" restrictions, and the worst victim is coco", right? your "victimisation" of coco however is absolutely baseless. the restrictions have applied to every members project. also woketards like you always blame cover first, not chinks. which has really made me wonder why. basically, chink insects canceled her projects/collabs. if there werent chinks cover wouldnt have had special issues with them.

>>4900621
>everything is bad
>only complain
then stop watching hololive. its not for you clearly. i also watch niji jp and nori-pro. you should move to others.

Coco definitely doesn't have thin skin, but everyone has their limits, and that stream where she broke down in tears and had to be comforted by Kanata was probably the moment when she realised she couldn't keep doing this shit forever. It doesn't matter how thick your skin is, months of non-stop harassment on all of your social media, nobody allowed to interact with you or even allude to you without suffering the consequences, and management being anywhere from useless to actively detrimental will cause anybody to break down eventually.

>>4898895
How does someone with a double degree end up as a cartoon dragon?

what songs will you be listening to on the day to commemorate? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sjEKigR2GY

>>4889328
I believe she got pregnant.

>>4889328
According to every fucking HL girl talking about this, Managment desperatly tried to convince Coco to stay but she is dead set on leaving. This is all her choice. We're about to get unchained roommate!

https://youtu.be/JBGJFqWfbEs

Just think, Coco seems really happy about this. Do you think if there was bad blood that Coco would remain silent. She'd go scorched earth and it'd be more devastating than anything Kiara will probably pull.

>>4889328
Not as far as I can imagine. But once you take Creative differences (can't even do asacoco anymore) and extra stress/annoyance from Cover's incompetence into account I can't say I'm surprised that she wants to look for greener pastures.

>>4902697
shut up eop vtwitter. go watch some chink vtubers

>>4889328
I think most adults with careers change jobs every couple of years, and that's very normal, especially in entertainment.
The bullying didn't even register. Why let anons live rent free in your head?

>>4894892
>targeted anti-americanism
Based! I love Cover now.

>>4889328
my guess
>she is not that concern about those ccp comments but rather the shit she has to put up in the long run
>Cover did not match her expectation in various ways
my guess that is. she left the company like any normal human being. she feels uncomfortable being in the company she worked for. that or she found something better than hololive

>Do people really believe that Coco of all people would be the kind of thin-skinned girl to cry because of mean chinese comments
>Do people really believe that Coco of all people would be the kind of thin-skinned girl to break down because of mean chinese comments
>Do people really believe that Coco of all people would be the kind of thin-skinned girl to go on a hiatus because of mean chinese comments

>>4902648
>Managment desperatly tried to convince Coco to stay
What like that Willy Wonka meme?

No, please don't go....anyways

The mean bugmen comments came from the investors, so yeah.

>09:16:26 Taishi Ch. 神代大使 [EN] Coco: When I can't smile anymore, I can't make you guys smile.
>09:16:58 Taishi Ch. 神代大使 [EN] Coco: The main reason why I can't stay with you guys is because I can't make myself smile anymore.....

>>4889328

Sponsors told Cover to stop aggravating chinks. It's that simple.

Even if Coco is one of the most profitable girls in Hololive there are too many potential contracts in china. It will probably take months but they will normalize relations with chink corps.

>>4905088
will never happen, dumb chink insect

>>4905054
NOOOO THATS FAKE!
FAKE!
REDDIT SAID COCO IS LEAVING ON HER OWN WILL!
AND WE SHOULD BE HAPPY!!!!111!! AND STAY HIV POSITIVE!!!!!
THATS RRAT!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

>>4905157
I'm not even asian retard. This is way too obvious and you will all feel like idiots in few months when they go back to collabing with Yostar and Mihoyo.

In all seriousness she seemed burned out for a while. Other than meme reviews she barely did anything.

>>4905429
she was literally banned from everything
what did you expect

>>4905054
>abuse someone for 8 months every day
>they quit
>SEE ITS THEIR OWN DECISION

>>4902428
office life isn't that attractive you know

>[EN] Coco: So, the question of "Then why can't you tell us why you're graduating" remains.
>[EN] Coco: There is still quite a lot that I can't say, of course.

>[EN] Coco: There have been people who didn't think I'd make it.

>[EN] Coco: When I can't smile anymore, I can't make you guys smile.
>[EN] Coco: The main reason why I can't stay with you guys is because I can't make myself smile anymore.....

>[EN] Coco: There are so many projects I wanted to do but couldn't get around to.

>[EN] Coco: I feel nothing but gratitude to management for creating a place like this for me.
>[EN] Coco: There's no one to blame.

>[EN] Coco: It's just that the direction I wanted to head was different from where management wanted.
>[EN] Coco: It's partly on me, of course. I caused mgmt so much trouble.
>[EN] Coco: I feel sorry about that too.
>[EN] Coco: No, mgmt didn't do anything wrong!
>[EN] Coco: I was thinking, "The fans might think this fun!" and skipped steps, etc.
>[EN] Coco: Haha, you do hear it with bands a lot, right? "We disbanded due to creative differences."

>[EN] Coco:I did work that I thought you guys would love, and I shaved off years of my own life for it.
>[EN] Coco: And it's not like the work will disappear.
>[EN] Coco: This place really, really gave me so much.
>[EN] Coco: I might have gotten a bit too big.

>[EN] Coco: If I didn't graduate, the worst-case would that I would continue be streaming without enjoying it myself.

>[EN] Coco: I know that I'm the kind of person where ppl either love me or hate me.
>[EN] Coco: If there are ppl who want to take advantage of this opportunity to attack me..... I'll still take it as their expression of love for me.

>[EN] Coco: Hololive is a very, very precious place to me.
>[EN] Coco: I don't want it to disappear after I'm gone. I don't want it to be taken down.

>>4905429
she wasn't burned out she couldn't do anything because hololive is too chicken shit to approve anything subversive.
she's not the only girl that couldn't do any big projects, pekora marine and korone all gor denied, all huge names that ended up having emotional breakdowns because they couldn't do what they wanted to do.
coco should start her own vtuber agency with whores and whisky so basically vshojo

>>4902428
i know someone who is an actual md that decided to stop working at the hospital and become a youtuber.
the reason he gave me was: the hours were better and the pay was nearly triple what i did, plus it was more fun.
i don't think it matters what your education is, if you can have a fun job that pays a lot you'll take it even if its "beneath you"