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>"I'm gonna go back to being an indie"
Well that didn't last long

>> No.48656475

All of /lig/ says it's indy, but almost all of them belong to something like Mythic or MSM or GGPartners. At a certain point it's stupid to be completely indie.

>> No.48656551

>>48656475
Or even GirlsFC

>> No.48656565

/myth/ when?

>> No.48656605

>>48656565
As soon as it's vtuber related.

>> No.48656609

>>48656551
That's just a friend group. I think Geega is the biggest and she's MSM.

>> No.48656646

>>48656475
How does being in a group makes you an indie? Doesn't she have to follow the guidelines or something in order to join Mythic?

>> No.48656652

>>48656475
It's not indie

>> No.48656662

>>48656352
It has been really funny to see schizos argue that vshojo is a corpo for the past year due to autistic seething at kson and then say that mythic are indies despite them having the exact same business model and get mad whenever someone suggests otherwise

>> No.48656753

>>48656646
The only requirement is to be above 750 ccv

>> No.48656791
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48656791

It's funny how the failed vtuber company know as vshojo now backpedals on its own definition as a vtuber company.

>> No.48656821

>>48656352
mythic is not going to reach 2025

>> No.48656829

>>48656352
Yep Kson is leaving next, looks like mythic just gives you more money

>> No.48656834

>>48656352
lol. How much did she get for this? A few million?

>> No.48656856

>>48656662
Mythic is the most parasitic and nefarious one of them all. It's managed in the background by Hollywood big wigs. Disney types.

>> No.48656859

>>48656475
>GGPartners
It's GGTalent. GGPartners is some gambling thing.

>> No.48656871

>>48656352
The whores aren't loyal to their company? Of course not. That's what you get for hiring literal prostitutes and western twitch thots.

>> No.48656878

Does that make Hololive, Nijisanji and Mythic the 3 biggest vtubing agencies in the world?

>> No.48656980

>>48656878
is mizkif a vtuber retard?

>> No.48656981

>>48656662
They're both corpos. There, problem solved.

>> No.48657013

Ooof, getting those Soros bucks.
Probably a good move, gotta milk it dry.

>> No.48657020

>>48656829
If I were a company I'd never hire Kson. She just openly doesn't care about the companies that hire her and stick their neck out for her. She also unironically believes vtubers should own all their assets and should be able to pick up and leave at any point for whatever reason they want. Why join a company at all only to openly state you're not loyal? Just be fucking indie at that point.

>> No.48657028

>>48656878
It's not vtubing related you retarded monkey.

>> No.48657067

>>48657028
Then what the fuck is it?

>> No.48657114

>>48657067
youtuber agency
they have a handful of vtubers but none of them are full time, and a lot of fleshies

>> No.48657136

>>48657067
Machinima but for Twitch. What's so hard to figure out?

>> No.48657160

>>48657028
It's not? Could've sworn they recruit a lot of vtubers recently
>>48656980
are all their talents mizkif?

>> No.48657212

>>48656980
>hiring fleshtubers means you aren't a vtuber agency
I guess Vshojo doesn't count either.

>> No.48657241

>>48657020
>She also unironically believes vtubers should own all their assets and should be able to pick up and leave at any point for whatever reason they want.
Yea that would really clash with Mythic where the humans talents literally sign their soul to the owner and can't leave unless they kill themselves

>> No.48657240

>>48657160
Be less retarded. It's not vtubing related. Or go back to l3ddit. This shit is the epitome of content cancer.

>> No.48657254

>>48656352
>Betrayed 4chan after getting popular thanks to their support
>Betrayed SJWs and even herself for being a loli, the very thing she swore to destroy
>Betrayed some of her parasocial fans by shamelessly announcing she has a boyfriend
>Betrayed Vshoujo by leaving
>Betrayed her own words by joining Mythic instead of staying indie for a while
I'm impressed by her consistency in betrayal.

>> No.48657317

>>48656662
They're corpos that market themselves as indie. Paramore was an example of that in the 2000s being a record label band that marketed itself as indie.

>> No.48657322

>>48656980
>hololive is not a vtuber organization because yagoo works there

>> No.48657387

>>48657136
so it will fall just as hard?

>> No.48657448
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>>48657322
this totally totally looks like a vtuber company sis

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>>48657387
No, because it's managed by really big money. They're all connected.
https://www.night.co/talent

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>>48657254
>betrayal
>in business
Stay in school

>> No.48657511

>>48657448
cover has like 300 employees and only 50 are vtubers

>> No.48657544

>>48656352
Why should we care?

>> No.48657557

>>48657240
>It's not vtubing related
It's an agency
That hires vtubers

>> No.48657593

>>48657557
You should.
Kill yourself.

>> No.48657649

>>48657448
Pokeaim jawline is incredible

>> No.48657673

Grifters gonna grift.
How long until she ditches them too?

>> No.48657681

>>48656878
UTA is the biggest vtuber corpo by a landslide actually

>> No.48657686

>>48657448
Just call it /mythvt/ or some shit.

>> No.48657707

>>48657477
kys

>> No.48657827

Are real popular indies a dying breed?

>> No.48657895

Mythic is a fuckingg discord group, not an agency

>> No.48657902

>>48657593
Mythic has more vtubers in it than vshojo does.

>> No.48657970

>>48657895
>vshojo is a fuckingg discord group, not an agency

>> No.48658074

>>48656352
How long until she leaves this one too?

>> No.48658200

>>48658074
>noooo you have to have loyalty to your boss

>> No.48658291

>>48657902
You're bootlicking the absolute worst of Hollywood machinations. A bunch of you are being really fucking retarded with this shit and it's blowing my mind.

>> No.48658364

>>48657476
all of the people on that site look like they groom children but that's also every youtubers goal

>> No.48658375

>>48658291
>i don't like it so it's not a vtuber corpo
that's not a very good argument

>> No.48658398

>>48656352
Watching her streams is a chore at best, but if you did watch you'd know they literally swooped in and offered her a deal she felt she couldn't refuse within an hour of her announcing that going indie was a better choice than sticking with Vshojo.

>> No.48658407

>>48657488
Businesses talk, they can easily destroy any startups or flakes.

>> No.48658730

>>48657476
>Rich entertiners are managed by even richer managers
Wow, what a surprise

>> No.48658738

>>48657557
Vtubers who happen to be in Mythic = topical
fleshtubers regardless of being in Mythic or not =/= topical

Understand?

>> No.48658849

>>48658200
Well, it's not a good look for the vtuber economy if vtubers need to constantly change bosses all the time.

>> No.48658867

>>48656878
Even if you want to entertain the idea of Mythic being a VTubing agency, them being EN and having little to no influence / impact on the industry puts them at T3 or lower on the VTubing tiering scale.

>> No.48659080

>>48658398
>literally swooped in and offered her a deal she felt she couldn't refuse within an hour of her announcing that going indie was a better choice than sticking with Vshojo.
Anon, they were already following her like most of their members. The offer had already been made. Pink cat left VShojo for Mythic.

>> No.48659101

>>48656352
>girl known for betrayal, hypocrisy, being a grifter who truly hates her own fans is instantly hated here
>first betrays her fans again by leading on as a pretend-lesbo for a few years and then pulling the aethel shit
>then betrays vshojo as well

Do you faggots who were in denial going "w-well her old fans were pedos they deserve it" or "she started on 4chan but you're totally evil incels so you deserved it" finally see what we were getting at now? That the core issue is not a personality or taste or ethical thing but a serious character flaw? Have you learned something, finally? Are you feeling it Mr. Krabs?

>> No.48659230

>>48656821
You really think zoomers are smart enough to recognize a ponzi scheme?

>> No.48659310

>>48658849
>one change in 3 years
>"constantly"
>people moving to better paying jobs is bad for the economy
naruhodo

>> No.48659405

>>48656352
why you surprise? she lies and 180 on everything every time.

>> No.48659467

>>48659310
Keep your head in the sand and tell yourself things are alright forever then, fucking retard.

>> No.48659642

>>48659310
The issue is she said only days ago she was gonna remain indie and now does this.

Like, what is even the fucking point of lying only to clearly break it days later? That suggests it's fucking pathological on her part, she does it just to do it. People wouldn't have even been that mad or surprised if she said she was hopping ship to Mythic, but no, she for some reason decided to lie again about a rather important thing regarding her career just to what, get people to let their guard down for a couple days? Why? No really, why.

>> No.48659659

>>48659467
>two talents leave vshojo to join mythic
>"it's so over, vtuber economy is in shambles, nothing is ok now get your head out of the sand retard"
>two talents leave cover to become indies
>"everything's fine they're just stupid"

>> No.48659702

>>48657448
Why do the first two dudes look exactly the same.

>> No.48659719

>joining Asmongold

lol
lmao even

>> No.48659742

>>48657476
>>48658364
Saw a YT thumbnail of Mr.PedoBeast making a very obvious cocksucking gesture recently. Do not let your kids watch and report his channel, they are legit gay pedophiles grooming children.

>> No.48659877

>>48659642
the sad truth that you have to accept is that mythic are indies, and so are vshojos

>> No.48659934

>>48659659
Why are you still replying to me? Are you braindead? Did mommy and daddy drop you on the head as a baby?

>> No.48659996

>>48659934
wow that's a great argument, you have convinced me. i concede

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48660011

This is so cursed

>> No.48660151

>>48659996
Why do I need to convince you that you're retarded? It's plainly obvious.

>> No.48660408

>>48660011
Asmongold + Shylily + Vei + Soda team up in WoW when?

>> No.48660672

>>48657488
I wish every frog poster would blow their own brains out. Worse than trannys.

>> No.48660723

>>48660672
Based.

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>>48659642
>The issue is she said only days ago she was gonna remain indie and now does this
First time?

>> No.48661016

>>48657448
Are they just hiring everyone or what?
I looked at their roster and it just looks like they picked up every semi big name

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48661254

>>48656352
Jesus Christ what gigantic fucking bitch.
Indie my ass, these bitches didn't leave over bad contracts, it's just that Vshojo impeded them from leeching off all the big Twitch clique.

>> No.48661405

>>48661254
Yup. I wonder what Kson is thinking right now.

>> No.48661454
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48661454

>>48656352
>Nyanners and Nux in the same agency
Every passing day, my anticipation for Mythic's total collapse grows stronger.

>> No.48661467

>>48661016
Yes. I honestly suspect it's money laundering scheme

>> No.48661493

>>48656352
>Mythtic
Why did they name it this way?

>> No.48661512

>>48660672
I agree brother. It was used to be acceptable, but then the chemicals in the water turned all the frogs gay. In order to stay halal, it is imperative that all frog posting be stopped.

>> No.48661558

>>48661016
They are bloating quickly, and likely trying to monopolize on Twitch’s partner changes for their own sake (monetarily),

>> No.48661602

>>48661016
I don't have an issue with them fishing for biggies, it's the objectively right thing to do as any corpo.
I don't understand what makes them so good that literally everyone accepts, though. Sure they have some 3views who would otherwise struggle, but Fillian, Saruei, Veibae, IKeepItTaco, Sodapoppin would 100% do just fine as actual indies.
What do they offer that it makes the deal?

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>>48659877
>mythic are indies, and so are vshojos
Nyanners herself disagrees

>> No.48661791

>>48661493
I'm guessing it's a reference to World of Warcraft, where mythic is the highest level difficulty of content that only the best players can do so I imagine this translates to them believing, in a marketing sense, that they're hiring only the "best" for mythic.

>> No.48662002

>>48659642
Listen here you retard: this is not the same because a company looking for streaming sponsoring deals / opportunities it's more focused on marketing for others while Vshoujo was some sort of indie vtuber union that was focused in paper in promoting the talents and looking for partnership with japanese companies to make merch. This mythic deal is way more impersonal and less intrusive than the vshoujo deal when they apparently had this talent freedom on paper but they're actually managing how the talents presents themselves for the sake of the deals with the japs, and that's why Nazuna was vetoed from playing the wizards game or streaming on youtube like she wants and has to go back to her mike persona to do it, the other vhores either pandered to the trannies or got fucked like Silver, also the new contract must be even more restrictive and that's why 3 of them jumped ship.
A deal to promote products or get some ads it's not the same as they're aren't going to manage the talent like vshoujo did, they just want to have a roster of streamers with numbers so they can sweet talk other companies and get good deals. They're gonna get anyone with numbers.

>> No.48662060

>>48661602
My guess is either a signing bonus or the name recognition. The stipulations and boons of their contracts are unknown, leaving me to believe that Mythic are just dropping piggy banks on the “talents” to collect them, which is packaged with being familiarized next to the larger names in the business.

>> No.48662294

>>48661454

look at it this way if mythic ends up being a massive shitshow we'll have entertaining things to funpost about

>> No.48662359

>>48662002
>Vshoujo(it's wrong spell)
>indie(but Vshojo is a corp)
>vtuber(but they stream only on twitch)
>promoting the talents(but when?)

>> No.48662469

>>48657511
>this level of retard
Yep, that's hololive hater alright.

>> No.48662481

>>48656352
they know where the cool guys are

>> No.48662711

Will vei and silver join mythic

>> No.48662791

>>48662711
vei already joined like two months ago

>> No.48662855
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48662855

>look up mythic talent

It's fucking tipsout

https://twitter.com/MythicTalent/status/1630613814142959616

Yeah I'm thinking this isn't going to last long

>> No.48662863

>>48656352
>Vshojo said it is not a Vtuber corp, but an indie Vtuber union.

>> No.48663308

Donnie Darko in shambles

>> No.48664163

>>48657448
>Clark Kent
Oh no no no Athel sisters I don't feel so good

>> No.48664572

>>48656352
Most indie creators still have some type of agency they're a part of. Most streamers in general even a fourth of her size have one and all they do is find sponsors, it doesn't mean she's got backing for any of her actual content

>> No.48664598

>>48660011
why is vei listed as vtuber/variety but shylily is listed as variety/vtuber
this upsets my autism

>> No.48664693

>>48664598
Because Vei is dating Soda

>> No.48664719

i dont think people really cosider a talent agency breaking some "indie code". youd be hard pressed to find a streamer half her size that doesnt have one. Even indie game devs have publishers and work with outside sources.

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>>48656352
lmao....get fucked Froot

>> No.48664869

>>48662469
maybe you shouldnt have brought up your crutch if you knew you were gonna lose

>> No.48664989

>>48661602
Because Twitch is introducing new changes to sponsorships where they take an even larger percentage of the bounty board money now.

>> No.48665034

>>48664869
Why even post if your going to say something like that anon? Did you think it was a funny or a gotcha?

>> No.48665050

They're not even a VTuber agency, so why is /vt/ allowing threads? Does this mean we get Asmongold generals now?

>> No.48665106

>ITT: Anons can't comprehend that having a manager doesn't mean you're not an indie

>> No.48665162

>>48661602
Look at literally any content creator talent agency. There's people with tens of thousands of viewers who have representation and management because it means it's something they don't have to do themselves and they can just focus on going live and doing whatever it is they want. This isn't some new concept, it's been around for decades even before streaming.

>> No.48665192

>>48665106
personal manager? maybe
belonging to a rapidly rising brand ran by the big names? this is the opposite of an indie.

>> No.48665246

>>48665106
no indie means you have to sift through email after email and DM all your editors, artists, collaborations, account managers, sponsors, and everything yourself or it doesnt count!

>> No.48665261

>>48665050
Because there’s vtuber in mythic. A lot of them.

>> No.48665272

>>48665050
numbers threads are allowed and they aren't vtubers
same goes for yagoo and management discussion

>> No.48665344

>>48659230
im not to into it but how is it a ponzi scheme?

>> No.48665383

You made her btw, don't get mad now.

>> No.48665406

>>48665192
So is jerma not an "indie streamer" or something because he has a talent agency? the guy does everything on his own but he's still part of same agency as XQC.

>>48665344
Clearly no one here is either since no one's paying Mythic anything

>> No.48665420

>>48664719
>youd be hard pressed to find a streamer half her size that doesnt have one
They're not indies, but it doesn't matter because there's not any autism about separation between corporate streamers outside of vtubers.
>Even indie game devs have publishers and work with outside sources
They're not indies either, they just want both the indie label and the official publisher label to get ahead of actual indies

>> No.48665523

Damn there’s a lot of retards up in here

>> No.48665627

>belongs to a group with the biggest streamers in the world and also the backing of Amazon
>clearly an indie
>belongs to a company of 6 people that is worth $5000 (the cost of the models)
>not an indie
It's that simple

>> No.48665851

>>48665523
Welcome home, anon.

>> No.48666086

OTK used Vei to poach talent from Vshojo for Mythic, pretty obvious now.

>> No.48666165

>>48666086
They told her she was getting screwed and she told the others. Mythic has a contract team to protect talents from exploitive contracts.

>> No.48666187

>>48665406
Jerma definitely has changed since he is part of that agency, from sponsored streams promoting Warner Bros crap to a bunch of super forced collabs that obviously he had no input on any of them.

>> No.48666332

>>48666165
Can't see, since they weren't taking anything from them, unless they were getting shafted on sponsors, and I'm guessing that mythic has the luxury of having an extremely broad amount of talent so they can take a lot less, but make more because they have so many people signed up.

>> No.48666406

>>48666187
He's been part of it for a year at most and a lot of those things happened before joining. Meds.The agency has zero involvement over who he does and doesn't collaborate with, they find him sponsorship opportunities and get him better deals and he takes them if he wants them.

>> No.48666453

>>48657448
Are the top two guys just the same person with different glasses?

>> No.48666460

>>48666187
He talked about choosing between doing sponsorship streams and not doing them. He was as upfront about his motivations as possible, well before joining.

>> No.48666463

>>48666187
you know he takes those sponsors to fund the larger streams right? they require crew, actors, accommodation in some cases, venue fees, etc. they dont just appear out of thin air

>> No.48666661

>>48659101
>Do you faggots who were in denial going "w-well her old fans were pedos they deserve it" or "she started on 4chan but you're totally evil incels so you deserved it" finally see what we were getting at now?
How many times do I have to admit you were right before you shut it anon

>> No.48666749

>retards unironically saying the group is indie
LMAO what is this cope

>> No.48666822

>>48657649
for sure. strongest chin in competitive pokemon

>> No.48666847

>>48666749
What is this agency doing for them that ruins the "indie cred" that a similarly sized streamer with no agency has? Sending sponsorship emails?

>> No.48666861

>>48662711
Veibitch joined even before leaving Vshojo. I recall she even said Mythic overlap with Vshojo meant nothing.
Baffling how these opportunistic whores got no backlash at all

>> No.48667081

>>48666861
why are people here so upset that people want to make more money

>> No.48667106

>>48656565
Holomyth already exists.

>> No.48667191

>>48666847
Do they have contracts with said group?

>> No.48667192

>>48667106
do they really

>> No.48667252

I had to check what my /vt/sisters are up to

>> No.48667256

>>48666847
>a similarly sized streamer with no agency has
let met guess, you think pokimane is an indie too?
you think mr beast isn't tied to big wig corpos either right?
you people are absolutely delusional and are easily fooled

>> No.48667257

>>48656352
She still following veibae around I see.

>> No.48667358

>>48656791
Did they actually changed it? is there a comparison? I don't believe it unless there's a clear comparison or proof that was changed

>> No.48667370

>>48667081
You can go ahead and sell out, but don’t expect me to not call you a sellout.

>> No.48667372

>>48666861
Sounds like a good business move to me

>> No.48667460

>>48666861
Why would there be backlash? Vei said she left because it no longer made any financial sense to be in vshojo anymore. That’s a good reason to leave.

>> No.48667522

>>48667256
So answer the question, what is this agency doing for the vtubers in the group that ruins their indie cred.

>> No.48667530

You need to realize that Twitch is such a shithole that if you don't join a club you will get fucked in the ass by some rainbow haired diversity hire that will fuck up your channel and account just to justify its paycheck. You need the legal protection of the corpo which in reality is just a racketing scam at the end of the day.

>> No.48667571

>>48667370
So what should they do? Continue on with no representation and no management, team, or employees to handle the ever-growing backend that content creation inevitably requires as you grow? I genuinely want to know.

>> No.48667581

>>48667081
I don't respect materialist whores.

>> No.48667624

>>48667530
you do realize no one in the org can prevent you from being banned right? several of the members have eaten bans including the main OTK members

>> No.48667693

>>48667624
And the bans don't stick or expire after just a few days. That's because the corpo leans on Twitch. I wouldn't be surprised if they were in bed together just to squeeze their streamers like a game of good cop and bad cop.

>> No.48667803

>>48667571
>inevitably requires
You act as though react “content” is a difficult field.

>> No.48667801

>>48667693
i can't tell if this is a schizo, troll, or serious and /vt/ is the only board this happens on.

>> No.48667924

>>48667803
It isn't but the more time you spend finding and working with editors, account managers for different video platforms, sifting through bullshit and legit sponsor opportunities, handling the "real" content and events, etc the less time you spend streaming.

>> No.48668025

>>48667522
Someone in an agency which labels themselves as "talent management" isn't exactly an indie.
They're giving up their independence for something.

>> No.48668050

>>48667924
You’re wasting your time on these people anon. They don’t want to understand they just want to hate.

>> No.48668055

vei is a bitch because it's her entire personality not because she joined not-otk

>> No.48668092

pomf pomf kimochi
mythic offered more money

>> No.48668205

>>48668025
And I ask what is this agency providing that ruins the "indie cred" that a different streamer with 1500 viewers and no talent agency would otherwise have? Are they not indies because they have editors, artists, or other streamers helping them behind the scenes as well despite not being in an agency? Even Shylily was considered indie before joining and she's got a manager.

>> No.48668286

>>48668205
NTA, but he just said why, retard. They lose their independence. Remember what "indie" is short for?

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Literally what the fuck is this Mythic shit?
Scrolling through the account all the tweets are just announcing that someone joined.

Is it a corpo like Holo/Niji? A sponsor like fucking GFuel or some shit? Literally what is it I don't get it. And why would vtubers join it if there's so many non/vtubers in it

>> No.48668374

>>48668205
Define indie because you clearly have a different concept

>> No.48668528

>>48668363
it's just a group of content creators and some of them happen to be vtubers. Again, the most likely reason to team up is to have an easier time securing some sponsorship

>> No.48668642

How long until vtubers are signed to CAA and WME?

>> No.48668691

>>48668374
A streamer that's making their own content (even if it's shit) without what they can and can't do or play being influenced by an outside source. No one's preventing them from collabing with someone, from using an emulator, from saying something the company disagrees with, etc. For all intents and purposes there's no difference between a 500 viewer streamer that's in Mythic and one that's not in Mythic since you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway unless you were told.

>>48668528
They probably get a better deal if they can get multiple people from the same group to do them too because it means they have more of the realty on Twitch.

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>>48668205
independent = unafilliated, either does everything on their own or pays for everything from their own pocket.
Now, if an agency does even one thing for you, which is - it's done by their own staff instead of yours, you are no longer independent.
It can't get any easier, so if your brain bankrolled by Asmongold to astroturf on this shithole can't comprehend this, it's pointless.

>> No.48668789

>>48668696
and how does someone sending them sponsorship emails affect your perception of them compared to someone who has to waste time and sifts through them on their own?

>> No.48668812

>>48668691
>A streamer that's making their own content (even if it's shit) without what they can and can't do or play being influenced by an outside source. No one's preventing them from collabing with someone, from using an emulator, from saying something the company disagrees with, etc. For all intents and purposes there's no difference between a 500 viewer streamer that's in Mythic and one that's not in Mythic since you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway unless you were told.
So if a streamer can do literally anything they want even while they're actually employed in a company they're still an indie, now I see.

>> No.48668821

>>48668789
>Now, if an agency does even one thing for you, which is - it's done by their own staff instead of yours, you are no longer independent.
Retard.

>> No.48668827

>>48656856
Ironically that makes them the more stable option then

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>>48660011
Can these grifters just leave vtubing for good already?
You've ruined it enough. I'm not even mad, i'm just tired at this point.

>> No.48669335

>>48667924
I have my doubts about that. A singular manager tailored to you can do this without much incident, provided they don’t suck at their job. Needing a network of established in-house connections versus wanting the benefits of said network are two different things.

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I hate but find it incredibly funny how this whore was only popular because of some ancient /b/ simps forcing her on all popular boards and kickstarted this whole slut eceleb career.

Nyanners was a mistake.

>> No.48669602

>>48669540
Luckily anons learned from that and didn't do the same with Kiki.

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>>48669242
Can these grifters just leave vtubing for good already?
You've ruined it enough. I'm not even mad, i'm just tired at this point.

>> No.48669724

>>48669653
I miss Marineschizo, he actually tried.

>> No.48669781

>>48669653
I see no males here so it's fine.

>> No.48670010

How does this 3 month old company have so many people running interference for it? Must be paid shills. If you're part of a talent agency your not independent. Simple as.

>> No.48670122

>>48670010
In mere weeks Mythic is going to topple Vshojo as the #1 Company with Vtubers in it on Twitch.
It's literally over

>> No.48670280

>>48670122
Western chubas were always cancer and even JP aren't that special anymore.

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>>48669781

>> No.48670601

A lot of chuubas who quit their corpo to "go indie" immediately jump to a new copo within 2 weeks. See Kaneko Lumi and Yuri (Rip)

>> No.48670951

>>48659702
That's raycis. One is brown (french).

>> No.48671202

>>48657511
All those employees exist to directly or indirectly support the vtubers. The vtubers are the product being sold. Stop being stupid.

>> No.48671230

>>48656856
Mythic versus Jewcorp fight lets goooooooooooo

>> No.48671290

>>48670010
by that logic the biggest indies have like 500 ccv lol
literally all of them are part of something similar to this

>> No.48671343

>>48670455
Mafia is based so he doesnt count

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>>48656352
>"I just decided it made more sense being independent"
>this happens 24 hours later

>> No.48672088

>>48671290
>by that logic the biggest indies have like 500 ccv
I fail to see the problem

>> No.48672163

>>48657448
Looks likea bunch of losers lmao

>> No.48673460

>>48670601
Lumi and Yuri had no intention of being indie from the start. It was a ruse.

>> No.48673499

has the stink of big media trying to corner twitch like they did to youtube years ago. hopefully some content creators learned from previous cancer, like Polaris and Machinima(probably not)

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>>48671639
People are really hung up on semantics and loose definitions, huh.

>> No.48674139

>>48656662
They’re both corpos.

>> No.48674219

>>48659742
Anon you're on /vt/

>> No.48674376

>>48668205
>>48668691
Anon you can't just make up your own definitions for things

>> No.48674389

>>48674032
wait mythic is indie?

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>>48674389
No they're a subsidiary of Avon and Yum! brands, so no more Taco Bell ads for Gura, sorry.

>> No.48675639

>>48661016
I don't know if you remember Machinima but this this with Mythic is the exact same thing.

>> No.48676072

>>48661016
It’s just a streamer talent agency, I think every streamer that gets a decent # signs along to one to get a manager to scrape sponsor deals for them. Example would be United Talent Agency with pokimane or all of OTV

>> No.48676672

So is Veibae a member of Mythic? I see in the Mythic general she is listed as a member but there hasn't been any announcement like with Nyanners? Is she scared to backtrack after that big twitter post she made about going indie and not joining OTK?

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>>48668092

>> No.48678897

>>48656551
that’s not an actual org, it’s more like a friend circle

>> No.48679315

>>48676672
shes been in for months at this point, this isn't news.

>> No.48679955

>>48656791
To think mowtendoo stopped making goat tier ytp for this shit

>> No.48681799

>>48679955
He hasn't consistently made good YTPMVs in like, 7 or 8 years. Seriously, go watch his Kill la Kill video and tell me that's even remotely comparable to your average mid-2000's Avast Your Ass YTPMV.

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>>48656352
Is it really THAT surprising?

>> No.48684029

>>48660672
What could possibly be worse than trannys? Go home annon you're drunk.

>> No.48684111

>>48684029
Rabies is probably worse, but that’s just me

>> No.48684519

>>48656352
imagine being in the same group as Nux lol I can imagine the awkward atmosphere

>> No.48685698

>>48657020
Unironically, Mythic might be more of Kson's taste more than Vshojo

Vshojo, since it was created with Hololive as template, still tries to build sense of "family", and sense of them working as a team. But Vshojo works as more of Talents Front Company rather than anything, paying vshojo with merchs cut for tech support.

None of those kind of things are at Mythic. Its more purely Talent Front Company. No sense of family or anything, just pure tech and admin support.

even Ironmouse signed-up with other agency.

>> No.48685810

>>48685698
>>Ironmouse signed-up with other agency.

Would you mind explain this pls

>> No.48686386

>>48656662
asmond is unironically retarded so most of the audience (especially the ones /here/) are going to vibe with him, but he hates anything anime related, although he always forces himself to pretend the oposite, this company looks fake af, it will be a great shitshow in a few years.

>> No.48686964

>>48657448
>>48657448
>>48657448
Ay nice to see Joey getting sponsors

>> No.48687013

>>48656352
So what's mythic another agency?

>> No.48687218

>>48685810
She signed to UTA a while ago.

>> No.48687303

>>48656352
>joins same agency as veibae days after leaving vshitshow
>same agency has people they have problems with such as nux and bunny_gif
LMAO....mythic gonna be desperate if they poach Froot next

>> No.48689099

>>48656352
I hope her first-born child dies at birth.

>> No.48689285

>>48687013
pretty much but they're part of a bigger picture of something more sinister.

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>>48667460
>Vei said she left because it no longer made any financial sense to be in vshojo anymore.
And you believe that fucking imbecile when Twitch revenues were leaked?
Veibae has a fuck ton of money despite she's a lazy bitch that barely streams.
Bitch left because she wants to be a millionaire with even less effort.
When you make this much, doing so little, at so little cost... that's not business, that's pure greed

>> No.48690919

>>48656352
follow the money. It's like any other job. Work hard and true, anons.

>> No.48691025

>>48665106
>>48665420
Actual autism. Jump in front of a train.
>>48665523
SEAnig infested the thread.

>> No.48691302

I swear to God I stepped into a /pol/ thread

>> No.48691350

>>48667801
Happens in politics why can't it happen here?

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>>48661016
>>48690554
>When you make this much, doing so little, at so little cost... that's not business, that's pure greed
Because they're funded by picrel. They sold their soul.

>> No.48691555

>>48685698
kson doesn't do mobile shit game sponsors despite being offered them
she likes the "sense of working as a team"
also mythic has no presence in japan at all

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>>48690919
>follow the money

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>>48656662
explain?

>> No.48692301

>>48691915
>taking nyanners' word
>like how you'd take a car salesman's word that their [insert car company here] have the best cars.

>> No.48692529

>>48691787
So not only are they not going not corpo and pretending to be indies, they are going omega extra corpo.

>> No.48692681

>>48656352
> anon believe that any indie don't have any form of company behind them
Indie is just some random world that only exist to attract some retarded anti-corpo fag. All the indies you all watch and have more than 100 viewers for half a month are as indie as any hololive members.

>> No.48692687

>>48657254
>betrayed 4chan
Gee, wonder why

>> No.48692781

Should have went to the South Side.

>> No.48693729

>>48656551
if that's a corpo then i can retroactively go back and call yokomeshi the first corpo to implode.

>> No.48694174

>>48657254
you forgot betrayed her ex by hiding him only to drop him for someone more presentable

>> No.48694224

>>48691787
Christ, the horror

>> No.48694389

>>48656352
>I just decided it made more sense for me to be independent
>Being independent, being in charge of my own stuff, being a solo, so to speak, as opposed to being a part of a group or a unit
How does one take her seriously after that?

>> No.48695052

>>48660011
i hate what former niche entertainment has become

>> No.48695087

>>48694389
You instead ask yourself how anyone fell for it in the first place.

>> No.48695756

>>48686386
Asmondgold is one of the most pathetic cucks in existence fr fr

>> No.48695793

mythic is just the real start of bigger companies centralizing streamers. they’re a small part connected to megacorps like everything else in the world. in 2023 streaming is basically budget-hollywood. the time to get into streaming has long since passed unless you want to do it solely as a hobby. mythic has been slurping up every mildly big vtuber they can because they’ve gotten so big since the pandemic and this is the big play by western companies to cash in on it and take control of it until it’s ultimately regulated the same way tv channels/personalities are. this ultimately happens with every new form of media.

>> No.48695998

>>48690554
Holy fuck why i'm still working and contribute to society when people without any skill or talent make so much more? I will now anti every Vtuber on principle

>> No.48696232

>>48667530
>this
it's protection racket ether you join us or we cancel you

>> No.48696260

>>48695998
Every machine needs cogs to work anon.

>> No.48696953

>>48696260
I guess so

>> No.48696996

>>48656352
What the fuck is Mythic?

>> No.48697554

>>48656475
/lig/ refuses to acknowledge the fact that they're corpo because their cognitive dissonance prevents them from coming to terms with the fact that their oshis aren't indie.

>> No.48698332

This thread is nothing but pure autism holy shit

>> No.48698430

>>48695793
Sensible VT take?

>> No.48698592

this isnt a company, its a twitch group with hundreds of streamers in it

>> No.48698679

if they own their IPs and aren't restricted by someone else then it's all meaningless

>> No.48698965

>>48656352
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.48699029

>>48698592
>twitch "group"

>> No.48699396

>>48656352
She's joining Xbox?

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>>48698592

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