/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48526476
>Fucking retard celebrating the bigger cancer
At Vshojo are vtubers, this garbage is the twitch clique with e-celeb trash

How could ProjektMelody's best friend do this?
She took Vshojo's money to do damage control for them and then bails on them.

I don't really care for vshojo but i don't understand why everyone is jumping on mythic
>less than 3 month old org
>signing basically everyone they can
>already something like 70 members
They are spreading themself so thin and have no proof of their business model working
And if all those streamers are signing their contracts must be really good for streamers meaning they won't get that much return, seems like a big gamble signing with them to me

>>48527083
if you look closely all of them got sponsored by ACR, clash and Mihoyo
they're raking in cash

Mythic is what VShojo wanted to be

>>48526476
TRAITOR

It's joever...

>>48526476
I knew nothing about Filian until like a week ago, but the more I hear about her the more she becomes my most hated person in all of VTubing.

Could we maybe just ban all discussion of twitch vtubers?

>>48527300
oh nonono

>>48527377
Anon... they're the only ones the jannies watch

>>48527377
Sure, after we ban your 400 lbs ass

>>48527426
What exactly does this prove?

>>48527083
Most of these internet companies are fake. They're like eSports orgs, none of which have ever made any money, but the CEOs get to pay themselves 6-7 figure salaries and buy Ferraris on the back of VC investment. They won't be around forever.

>>48526929
sounds perferct for Filian

>>48527300

>>48526929
are you implying Vshojo is any different? roru

>>48527083
Mythic functions like a streamer support org that helps with connections and sponsorships. You don't join them like an agency it's more like a partnership where they recommend and get a streamer some deals in exchange for a cut of the profits.

her model is not even original...

>>48527678
Don't the sponsors that want to pay streamers good money mostly contact them personally? And that's why all the streamer ads are Raid Shadow Legends, GFuel and crypto scams? What real service does Mythic provide?

>>48527678
>it's more like a partnership where they recommend and get a streamer some deals in exchange for a cut of the profits.
So, like an agency

>>48527913
>1.8m subs with a $25 model
the 2views with their 2-3k custom models must be SEETHING

>>48527957
Connections to said sponsors. Companies normally would ask content creators that interest them but Mythic apparently has various sponsors on call that they can talk to and point towards a particular creator.

Pic related is who they connections with and talk to

>>48527913
>nearly at 2m subs on YouTube based off nothing but her performance and entertainment VALUE and a recoloured rindo

NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO PAY 10K TO TWITTER TRANNY RIGGERS AND ARTISTS

>>48528041
Agency minus being officially employed, having a manager, etc.

>>48527426
>subcount
name a more useless statistic
Mori has 2.2 million subs and struggles to get 5k CCV
There are many sub-1 million chuubas that get better views than her

>>48526476
She was already in Miz's house so not really a surprised

>>48526476
Hasbro down another 2points!

>>48528271
no VRChat sponsor?

>>48528608
she'll be a 5view by the end of the year
the question is if it's as a OTK fleshstreamer or with her new model

>>48527426
>>48527548
Okay, on accident I said Filian, but I meant Froot. Both F names and I don't watch them. My bad.

>>48526476
>makes a stream to talk about vshojo drama
>days later this
what did zoomer mean by this

>>48529235
she's good friends with Mel and did her a solid

E-CELEB thread

I only watch Hololive and JP indies
I genuinely have no idea who this is

>>48529517
Third most popular EN vtuber

>>48529517
based
>>48529400
THIS IS AN E-CELEB BOARD WHAT DO YOU MEAN

>>48528271
I don't see any prima face reason to have a middleman in streamer sponsorships. Probably brands' marketing teams can find the best streamers to sponsor all on their own, and any middleman is just going to extract revenue from one side or the other for very little advantage. All of these companies already have sponsorships in the streamer space without relying on middlemen and I'm confused as to what Mythic is supposed to offer.

>>48528271
I dunno, most of these are gaming companies or mostly third rate companies compared to shit Cover deals with, like the fucking government for example

>>48528271
>square
>bungie
>logitech
ok yeah makes sen-
>Shell
the oil and gas company? the fuck?

>>48529015
is too hard to put in your mind Mythic is not a company/streamer house deal for these people they are announcing?
everyone chuuba that signed up with mythic still indies

>>48530154
Holoboard, anon, nobody here understands anything else

>>48527083
>why everyone is jumping on mythic

Really fucking rich people are behind them and OTK and other "influencer" groups. They get paid a shitton.

>>48527678
isn't this exactly what people said vshojo was early on?

>>48526476
We've known about her being in mythic for like a month bro and she was never in vshojo.
UOK?

Who is she? First time ever hearing about her

>>48530154
that has nothing to do with Mythic

>>48530380
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

>>48530453
Indie vrc streamer

>>48529690
Apparently Twitch is legitimately ass in letting both a sponsor and streamer know about potential business opportunities. Mythic serving as the middleman makes it easier for both to make deals and it helps smaller streamers or streamers who have issues getting sponsors a lot. For example Vshojo apparently had a hard time securing deals for everyone likely due to Mel being a sex worker and such, Mythic meanwhile helps by having on call connections and can hook up someone whose not advertisement friendly.

Theirs less relying on chance for a random Sponsor to contact you by just having Mythic call one and directly sending one to you.

>>48527083
Mythic isn't a Vtuber agency, they're not spending ungodly hours per talent making deals and having meetings planning inter-agency events, they just go to big brands with their portfolio of talent tell them "we can guarantee x-engagement on a campaign for you, we ask for $$$" then they give a cut of that $$$ to whomever they give the ad-deal to within their pool of signees. AFAIK they can also help with sourcing good merch deals too and they have some coaches you can talk to but they're not really that relevant for growing your brand really.

>>48527678
This seems like that MCN shit every youtuber got conned into and most of them were scams

>>48530380
Yeah except Vshojo did it poorly and functioned more like an exclusive Vtuber club instead of a simple sign up and your good to deal.

>>48527957
Brands don't want to keep track of 1000s of content creators, if they can negotiate a rate with just one big pool of talent they'd much rather do that. Same way legacy agencies like UTA negotiates sponsorships by shopping around their portfolio and promising engagement based on past metrics.

>>48530731
Here's hoping it's not a rip off like Machinima was back in the day.

>>48526476
>a corp got Filian
Fuck, it's unironically over for everyone else.
That bitch is too strong. I thought Hololive would get her for EN3.

>>48530731
The more I hear about Vshojo's business model the more I see the similarities to Machinima but 100 times dumber since they tried to make it exclusive, at least machinima knew that they needed to sign talent at a high rate to keep the cashflow growing to show VCs that their net revenue was high, profitability be damned.

>>48527678
>>48528041
>>48528349
Are we timelooping?
Why does it feel as if we're timelooping?

>>48530865
>Machinima
That's a name I haven't heard in a while.

>>48530982
Because we are.

>>48527083
Sounds like a ponzi scheme for a few big wigs to scam some people out of a bunch of money while providing "support" then make off like bandits. I think the trash taste fags were involved in something similar a while back.

>>48530917
She's too good for Holo. Since a lot of her appeal is her physical comedy and acrobatics it makes no sense to nerf her for over a year with L2D before giving her a 3D model. They'd have to carve out a huge exception to their usual process and debut her as 3D for it to even be worth considering..

>>48526476
>>48527083
>>48527678
Youtube used to have tons of middlemen companies like machinima that existed as a gateway to monetization.

They all crumbled when the services that they utilized made monetization easier and cut them out of the picture. These streamer groups/vtuber corps are the same and they won't last if they can't hold onto ip's.

>>48531076
That's 100% it, they're using the fact that content creators don't want to bother having their own teams or hunt down personal agents for this crap and make it a "free service" by basically pocketing the majority of whatever ad-deal they get and give the scraps to the talent that will still thank them in the end

>>48530453
she's a super witty and athletic vrchat chuuba
most of her content is slapstick comedy, dancing and YLYL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5-ZJP3o4E

>>48530667
>>48530380
>>48530743
So basically if vshojo just let literally anyone in it could have survived because it would have a large collective ccv and view count to swing around and get sponsors, but they didn't and now it's dead

>>48531076
>>48531308
All twitch has to do is lower the huge cuts they take from their bounty board system and this mythic thing becomes pointless.

>>48531387
Yes, Vshojo was horribly managed from the start with no real direction and their management must've been complete morons.

>>48528271
why is a gas company sponsoring them?

>>48526476
haha lmao
V is no longer stands for vtuber but for vrchat now. Time to get back to your board, posers.

>>48529874
Its the way of the future. Even if all the oil is gone, there will be a future where Shell plc exists and sponsors everything, much like how redbull sponsors anything even tangentially related to energy drinks.

>>48531611
>V is no longer stands for vtuber
anon?

>>48529874
You should take a moment to look into gas companies, the things they invest in is fucking wild and they always end up on top.

>>48531255
she's at 6k subs right now
her base salary would have to be enormous

>>48530917
why would they need a shorts spammer? Subs is only thing she might be good for, too close to regular twitch dudes otherwise.

>>48528088
ackshully its a 60 dollar model

>>48527083
Because all the vtubers were getting such shitty sponsor deals that Mythic claimed them to help them maximize profits.
Apparently when asked, there people getting extremely different amounts of money and all those people had relatively similar stats.

>>48531073
Beautiful.

Next thing we know, a former talent from a big corpo of japanese origin joins their ranks under a completely new name and model.

>>48531323
The thing that stands out to me for her is how ridiculously quick she is in coming up with some pun or dumb joke like instantly. Half the time it's funny just from the timing being quick enough to shock you when she says some outrageous shit

https://youtu.be/NKv3gEyjypM?t=2

>>48527083
because it's everything indies want out of an agency without being, well, an agency that asks for partial rights to their identity.

>>48533778
George, george, george of the jungle, watch out for that knee.

>>48529874
>the oil and gas company? the fuck?
I grew up in Houston and boy howdy. Lemme tell ya. You would not BELIEVE the random things that energy companies throw money at just because they can.

>>48527300
Her fans are the worst. Annoying, loud, underage.

>>48531387
Pretty much yeah. Members leaving would still hurt but at least if they let more people in they had more of a safety net to fall back on.

>>48526476
Didn't she get felt up on stream

>>48531611
>V is no longer stands for vtuber

>>48526476
FUCKING SELLOUT

I love grudgeposting
>>45165090

>>48533778
How dare she make a joke about St. Floyd!

It's nauseating seeing anons continue shilling for the ultimate sellout bitch Fillian. Stop sucking Disney's cock.

>>48530982
cause people (even kson) said this literal same shit about Vshojo

>>48533778
Wasn't even offensive, it was just lame.

I like Filian. She is just fun and happy and doesn't have the extreme mental illness the plagues most of these vtubers. (She still has mental illness though)

>>48538842
I dont watch fillian I just hate vshojo

>>48530917
She would be handicapped at holo. She wouldn't be able to do flips and flash her panties as a live2d

>>48539549
You should really, really hate the people behind Mythic.
https://www.night.co/talent

>>48539809
Most importantly, she wouldn't be able to watch YouTube videos, which makes up at least 50% of her content.

>>48530641
It’s not twitch or YouTube’s job to inform you that’s why all competent streamers have a social media presence. You can also send the well known sponsors your analytics it’s not complicated.

>>48529690
The reason mythic exist because OTK had too many sexual assault/rape allegations so they made this to have the sponsors be under a different name. Most people invited attend the vshojo, trash taste, otk streamer parties. Most of the people who joined are like OTK, pretty much advertiser poison because of their near pornographic branding while the others are people who are failures that don’t know how to become successful being a streamer. Despite what I said it is a good thing and besides the cuts they take from said sponsors the only real problem would be more allegations popping up.

tldr; Mythic makes it so these people are no longer advertiser poison

>>48530667
>not really that relevant for growing your brand really.
Just like Vshojo KEK

>>48540823
>You can also send the well known sponsors your analytics it’s not complicated
Sez the 4chan NEET Guru, also meds.

So which vtubers are with Mythic? Their site sucks and is missing some people

>>48527083
All I know is that I can't wait until they collapse under the weight of their own greed.

>>48527678
so absolutely literally VShojo 2.0?

>>48529517
quite literally the biggest western indie

>>48538242
Can't have graduations if the talents just fucking leave instead

>>48527083
Remember way back in the day when Machinima would sign basically everyone to a contract with shockingly good deals for the talents? It's just like that but for streaming.
Also, Mythic has to add more talents to cover up their connection to rapists.

>>48542407
https://www.twitch.tv/team/mythictalent

>>48528271
i really fucking hate when people post this kind of pics and the only fucking shit you get is once ina blue moon sponsor maybe with a pc part company as the biggest shit you have
and genshin collab.
This conections dont refelct on the quality of spnsors they are going to get becasue for the big companies here mythic is jsut a bunch of streaemrs to add to the group to give them sponsors. the fucking rail mihoyo game that everyone is playing is an example, just shotgun those sponsors and ny mythic being a big org they will get a share of those that get targete by it.
just pure blatant marketing.
While i do think that vshojo lost their edge i dont think these guys are gonna get them nenedos or pass to vtuberfest or other shit mouse and nyanners got last year.

>>48540823
>it so these people are no longer advertiser poison
the kind of people they are inviting is gonna make that hard, fucking nux and fefe are there i think.

>>48542924
>literally 3 views
this is exodus of people leaving waiting to happen by next year.

>>48527083
>we are giving you NINTY PERCENT of your reevnue rather than 60 which others do
>OH NEET WHERE do i sign
>2 months pass
>so where are those sponsors
>lol get in line nerd.
literally a scam not by contract but how they will opperate.

>>48543836
another case of the ones at the top getting first pick ie. almost everything. which ones do you think they'll leave for the scrubs at the bottom?

>>48527957
>contact them personally
They can. But if they can hire a third-party to do all the work for basically the same amount, then why not? This way they don't need to dig up everything from the person to see if there is any yabs, and in case there are, they can just wash their hands and say it's the third party's fault.

I'd oshi Froot before I'd ever follow this e-celeb shitshow company.

>>48542745
But enough about NijiEN

>>48527083
It's not vtuber group, retardino. It's your typical streamer support company and that's how they operate. There will be no fancy lore or content from them as company, they are there just for tech, marketing and eventual legal support.

>>48538347
If someone thinks it's in bad taste to make a joke about a man who was murdered by a government representative in public in the middle of the day, it means they think he is a saint.

>>48526476
Well, trash belongs to trash. It doesn't matter which pile of trash she joins.

>>48526476
>it's fucking OVER
you could say that again

>>48539809
Miko and Sora both have ok only 3d models, no 2d at all. Roboco may also be in this cl uh b, but I am not sure.
Anyways, there is presedent in hololive of a chuba having only 3d models.
Anyways, don't really care, just felt the need to correct some misinfo.

>>48556952
it's fucking OVER

I went through the mythic creators list and they had alot of vtubers and a legion of literally who FPSfags

They fucking hired fefe and camila lmao but dont try and recruit actually good chuubas like grimmi

>>48531076
Oh it's better than that. This is a shell cover agency for OTK whose sponsors got squeamish and wary after the numerous rape allegations. It's not a surprise that every OTK member is a member of Mythic as well.

>>48543477
Yeah, they have StarForge on there which is just OTK's computer company. How much money laundering do you think that allows them to do? FTX all over again.

>>48543540
They won't care. Most them are padding to facilitate the lie that this isn't Mizkif's shell op.

>>48562096
>company's reputation sunk to the ground
>rebrand and hire everyone back
>nobody cares anymore
I was about to ask if normalfags are that stupid but they are

>>48562796
Even better, it appears OTK has all their sponsors back so Mythic is pointless.

>>48526476
Oh isn't this the racist girl who runs around with her 3D model?

>>48563093
Latina.

>>48563139
Doubtful. Could you prove that?

>>48563288
Fluent Spanish speaker.

>>48563434
So she's a spaniard. I knew she was a white girl but didn't know which one. Also, I said latino as in either a native or black spaniards are not latino.

>>48563616
Oh you're just trolling. Nevermind.

>>48561919
fefe and grimmi? what's next? grubba? blobby?

>>48563718
Right, lazy bitch. That's what trolling means... Asking a question and laying down a fact.

>>48563952
Whatever dude.

>>48540350
Huh, so that's why i'm seeing youtubers making their own products now.
Imagine vtuber energy drinks.

Mythic sounds like a league of legends team from the early 10s. It sounds so antiquated that I don't think it will do well at all.