/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>48284413
Did Elon give Gura her blue check back? lmao

>>48284472
Goopy Gumbus...

>If she wanted to stream and spend time with her chumbies she would have streamed. If she wanted to stream and couldn't she would have said something. As simple as that. There is no need for retarded cuckposters with their rrats or whatever is going on here. It's not really that complicated. The reason for why she doesn't want to stream or actually communicate with her fanbase in any meaningful way doesn't matter at all.

>You can't do anything about the reason whether it's a good reason or simple laziness. The only way for a fan to connect with their oshi is through streams. And if there are no streams whether you are a genuine fan or a retarded gray or a seething anti whatever you say or do doesn't reach her. The only person in a relationship between oshi and her fans that has any power to change it in any way is Gura herself. If she wants to have a relationship with her fanbase that is genuine, transparent and is build on mutual trust she can have it. If she doesn't want that she can just abandon all attempts to actually connect with her fanbase which is what's going on right now. And some people can shout that she doesn't owe anything anyone and de jure they will be right but honestly de facto an idol or any other celebrity for that matter is responsible for their fanbase. These people love you, want to help you, support you in your endeavors and any celebrity is nothing without their fans. It's the whole point of being an idol. What is idol without their fans? Just a regular person. “You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.” as Antoine de Saint-Exupery wrote which is something I took to heart when I was a child.

>The way I see it everyone who has a moderate position on the issue will simply leave sooner or later depending on their patience. Patience however DOES run out and the only people who will stay will be antis, trolls and completely deluded people that will wait for her to "change for the better" until the day she graduates no matter if it happens this year or ten years down the line. And it's already happening, you only need to look at the latest comments to see that.

Thoughts?

>>48284413
Western vtubers are i... kekaroo

>>48284413
Source on that Gura no Ko art?

This is why you don't oshi vtubers whose VA is older than 19.

We cool, chumbies?

discord thread

>>48284413
>"oshi no ko is anti idol, guys!"
>decide to watch ep 1
>fan kill his oshi
>his oshi forgive him
So, if i rape gura, she will forgive me too?

>>48285026
If you don't like how Gura treats her fans then you should send feedback to Cover: https://cover-corp.com/en/contact

There's no point in seething on some niche image board that maybe less than 0,1% of hololive fans use.

>>48288107
>implying they care about feedback that doesn't come from companies or investors
roru rumao even

>>48284589
Guess we know his oshi then.

>>48289874
Anyone with over 1M followers who was verified before the update got their verified status back.

>>48287620
yes go do it

>>48290625
Still says it's a "Paid" verification funny enough. Guess he's trying to get people to buy the scam. Not enough smoothbrains buying their "I'M IMPORTANT" sign I guess.

>>48287620
>>his oshi forgive him
I haven't watched that shitty anime. How does she forgive him if she's dead?

>>48291600
She reincarnated

>>48289817
They do tho... I once reported a doxx video and it got deleted 2-3 hours later. Though this was back in early 2021

>>48292090
Obviously they only care about stupid shit like that, they don't care about actual feedback about their talents. Gura doing what she does is obvious proof of it since me and other people have sent feedback several times about it in the past few months. Cover is rotten to the core, not as much as niji or vshoujo but they aren't much better, they would rather spend assets to damage-control the yabs of their stupid talents rather than preventing the yabs educating their talents.

>being an idol means you have to stream videogames everyday
ogey, sister

>>48292269
You idiots really do overthink this.
Gura still makes money for Cover. That's literally all this boils down to. They have absolutely ZERO reason to have her do ANYTHING, including even just fucking streaming, because the retard chumniggers will keep their memberships up and buy her merch, while they continue to bitch and moan.
Look at any company in history, what gets them to change is hitting their profits. That's it.

You want Gura to start streaming again? Convince the chumbies to stop fiscally supporting a streamer that makes next to no content. Subscriber count isn't an excuse, either, all these girls have been basically set for life from just a few months of working at Cover, as evidenced by their complete lack of financial woes and monster PCs. So really they all have zero reason to stream, if they've already made more than enough money than they'll ever need.

So once again, you want Gura to start streaming? Convince retards like this >>48292701 that she should. Until then, Cover's gonna keep raking in the money, while you tards rage on a mongolian sand sculpting forum.

>>48284413
its over

>>48292797
I blame the merch obsessed manchildren. If they spent that money on super chats rather than on useless plastic toys, maybe Cover would consider telling Gura to be more active on her channel but no they HAVE TO buy the fucking toys, they HAVE TO own physical goods to virtue-signal on social networks, they feel that supers are just a waste of money, funny that technically speaking Gura gets a better percentage from supas than she gets from merch. If only merch wasn't the largest income.

Shame that these people have literal children mentality with the attention span of a fruit fly, when Gura finally graduates to retire for life and make a family (and she will), they will just move on like nothing happened and disappear, yet these people have the highest decisional power when it comes to Cover and their talent because merch is unfortunately a big source of income for Cover, besides the events and sponsorships.

Cover and their talents lack soul, they only care about profit as you say and I know all too well.

>>48293059
And I'll continue buying toys. Stay mad, poorbud. I hope Gura has another good break.

>>48293314
And I pray I never meet you irl because then it would be your last day with your head attached to your shoulders.

>>48291600
>doesn't watch it
>called it shitty
Anyway, while she's in the midst of losing blood, she forgave unicorn-kun, saying this was the retribution for her sins. She remembered unicorn-kun's name and thanked him for coming to her handshaking event.
Unicorn-kun does not expect her apologetic reaction (because people usually react like "no why would you do this to me? I didn't do anything wrong" when stabbed)
Unicorn-kun regrets murdering her and commits an hero on the spot.

>>48284413
That “d” over her mouth that she’s salivating for? Mine

>>48293388
It's shitty because the premise is that all unicorns are rapists waiting to happen and it's a series funded by Nijisanji who is shit incarnated (that's why the loaded premise).

>>48293498
It's actually funded by Hololive Production desu. The story is actually based on Hoshimachi Suisei's (my kamioshi) song and music video, Template.

>>48293314
Yeah sure I'll bite.
The only streamer I watch are VODs of this one guy who plays weird niche shit. I don't really give a shit about most vtubers outside of clips, they're pretty boring if you watch them live. I just browse this board because some of you are so depraved and dysfunctional that it's interesting seeing you all in action. Kind of like reading some Ichi the Killer or Chainsaw Man shit, where the whole point of the stories is the characters are pieces of shit.

>>48293498
The main character is a Unicorn/Gachikoi
he has numerous moments where he explains the appeal of idols and why not all of it is bad. The assailant is also played more for tragedy than disgust, as one:
>he was manipulated by the guy who sent him to Ai
and two
>he immediately regrets what he did, showing he was just a mentally unstable person in a vulnerable position, taken advantage of by someone far more malicious and evil, and didn't actually think through his actions

The MC recognizes this and has never even mentioned the guy who did the stabbing, despite being on a decade's long revenge quest to kill the man who killed his mother.
You only dislike Oshi No Ko because you can't handle someone pointing out the more negative aspects of your own character, specifically the dark sides of extreme parasocialism, and entitlement to the idol's entire life outside of when she's on stage.

>>48293613
This anon forgot to mention that it’s also based on the fact that suisei gave birth to my twins

>>48288107
>antis actually caring about constructive feed backs instead of bot harassment
Lol!!!

>>48293706
>negative aspects of your own character
Shame that nobody bothered to address the negative aspects of idols who manipulate their fans for money and make them feel loved and needed, using lies and fake fragility, only to betray them as soon as they find the cock that fits the best for their cunt.

How dare somebody point this kind of things out... women can do no wrong, right?

>>48291792
???

>>48293815
No that's in the manga too. Ruby outright has a negative growth arc, where she does exactly what you're saying, and her scummyness gets rightfully pointed out. Nobody's free from getting criticized in it
Have you even read it?

>>48293772
>if you don't like to get ghosted by your oshi you are anti
The absolute state of this board.

>>48293943
Nobody gives a fuck about that part of the story and you know why? because it was structured purposely to make parasocial unicorns look bad, that's why the first thing you see is not the events that led to the murder but only the murder where the fan is the monster.
By the way, no I didn't read this garbage because I don't support authors that try to make me look like a psychopath for pointing out that my oshi streams once a week if she remembers about it and disappears for weeks or months without warning, completely disregarding the loyalty of her fans and all the support they gave her for almost 3 years.

>>48284589
He gave it to most twitters users with 1mil+ followers

>>48294087
How do you know it's so shitty if you've never read it?

>>48294277
Because I actually read the first 2 chapters of the manga when the fantranslation came out but nothing else besides that because I hated everything about it. It's a series clearly made by somebody who wanted you to feel bad for the idols who have to "endure so much" and "suffer" for not being able to "experience love" due to their fans being "obsessed psychos" who could murder/rape them given the right chance.

>>48294383
But how do you know it's so bad if you never read it?
I absolutely loathed Zetman, and didn't really like Ichi the Killer all that much, but I did read them to completion. It's not like I haven't dropped an anime before, myself, either, but you know what I say about those ones I never finished?
I say I lost interest, or it wasn't for me, because I literally do not know what happens in the rest of the stories.

>>48294521
Manga have very aggressive NTR -> no need to read all of it, skip

>>48294614
Why do you need to tell us? It's fine to not like it and not read it, I'm just pointing out the obvious that you're full of shit for claiming to know how the rest of something you never read is

>>48294521
As I said, it's a series finely crafted to make fans look bad and as a fan of a vtuber who is also an idol (or so she wants me to believe), I feel that it's a bunch of shitty garbage that belongs in a garbage dump. I don't care if 177 arcs later they make the fans look good for 0,7 nanoseconds of the series, the premise is that parasocial fans are bad and dangerous while idols could never do wrong and they're just poor victims of the system.

I can see why western whores would enjoy this series so much, like Kronii and Calli. Everybody wants to feel like an idol and live with the benefits of an idol, the bloated ego thanks to the thousands/millions of fans who love you like crazy, all the money they trow at you, shining on the stage... shame that there isn't a western whore who wants to put in any effort to prove they actually deserve all of the above, they all want ti easy and handed to them on a silver plate, because this is the mentality of the average entitled western whore. The fans are just stepping stones and disposable wallets.

>>48294769
But you didn't read it

>>48294918
>ina poster
>defending oshi no ko
The irony of your post. Now I want to read it even less.

>>48294740
I can tell whatever I think should be told to express my feelings and thoughts, so it's fine on my end. I'm sure some people will read my posts and it'll be useful for them. I see it's not useful for you, although I see you spitting bad words and pointing at "obvious" things without any argumentation. So it's not like you don't care about what I said either.

>>48287620
>"oshi no ko is anti idol, guys!"
Don't know where did people get this idea from when a number of idolfags like Suisei praised the manga. Maybe it is if you consider Aka's dumb propaganda he is shoving in his mangas, but you can like the series while still ignoring all that shit

>>48294383
>An event happens for the series to expand its world
>Literal premise is that not everything is as cut-and-dry or straightforward as it seems to the outside
>One obsessed fan in a moment of mental weakness exposes the idol to the truth of her existence and makes her realize the fault in her ways
>"This pro-idol and anti-fan!"
Anon why are you just taking one story and pretending that it's a completely different story just to dislike it. If it's not for you it's not for you. Just like chumbuds don't have to pretend that Gura loves any of her fans or wants to stream. Honestly, if she put "Idol" in her twitter bio and she's embracing the title, if she doesn't stream video games, I don't care. If in her world she's like Wa-Suta, an idol group, and not a woman who's probably pushing 30 who plays video games for a living, then fine. I was never a Gura fan, I don't have a place in the fight, but it's been interesting trying to dissect what's been going on in the Gura timeline

>>48294769
You're kinda making it seem like the anime has a point. If you're the template for a fan, the story in the anime is on point.

>>48294968
Why would I be upset if you spent your time doing things you like, instead of things you hate

liar

>>48295249
>you're just as sick as that fan who murdered his oshi
You are the kind of people this story is aimed to, a white knight in search of approval or an entitled whore whichever you are.

What is the point of this thread

>>48295411
Yeah I'm a white knight even though I think Ai herself is a loathsome character. You are so blinded by your rage that you never even try to understand anything or anyone other than yourself, if you also had courage you'd probably end up doing something that'd land you in prison with a mind like that.

>>48295461
random seethe thread that doesn't make sense, the usual

>>48284413
Don't idols have to do something - anything?

>>48295642
They have to lie to you.

>>48284413
>Reddit anime meme
Go back

>>48294769
>The premise is that parasocial fans are bad and dangerous
So it's basically Homobeggar the anime? I'll pass.

>>48295540
>you never even try to understand anything or anyone other than yourself
>you'd probably end up doing something that'd land you in prison with a mind like that.
do you even read your own posts before posting them?

>>48295825
Funny you say that since it was written by a Nijifag who is a massive Hololive anti. Just in case anybody was wondering about his motivations.

>>48295905
I do. You might think you are being very clever here after you came up with that zinger, but you have made no point. Are you seriously going to try telling me that just blindly hating shit and seeing everything from only your own perspective is something mentally stable people do?
I mean obviously you could be lying in every single one of your posts about what your perspective is, but you can't really fault me for trusting you.

>>48295942
Even if you ignore Oshi no ko, the fact that aka tried to push feminist shit in Kaguya should have told you to not take his propaganda seriously, while you can still like his work. I swear Akatards are mentally ill

>>48295942
This is a rrat.
He's been a fan of Coco for a long time.

>>48296112
So you're saying that I'm not allowed to hate a series that tries its best to make me look like a psychopath because... because? because you need to feel approved in your discord female friends? because you think that defending this series will make your oshi happy? because you think women will see you in a better light for defending entitled and manipulative idols? why should I not hate what you use only to bloat your fragile ego?

By the way, it's you the one who made a biased assumption about parasocial fans, not me, and you did it in an attempt to discredit my opinion for the reasons stated in the first half of this post of mine.

>>48296173
>Fan of Coco
You aren't helping your point here at all.

>>48295942
Why do you chinks make up lies that are so easily verifiable?
https://twitter.com/akasaka_aka/status/1267105357270093824?t=rEIYVpX8KqoodlWGs8Wm-Q&s=19

>replying to 'idol culture bad' postings
I hope you at least sage your post

>>48296409
Zhang spotted.
Coco will always be beloved. Kson is not the same.

>>48296445
You realize that saying you like Coco is basically admitting you are a Hololive anti right?

>>48296445
>'idol is le bad'
>friends with married idolfag that imposes no male interaction policy in her small vtuber corpo
Hypocrisy of the highest order

>>48296445
>Akasaka Aka
He should get the Shadman treatment. He is that much of a hack.

>>48296339
You're obviously allowed to hate it. Just don't come here pretending like you're not an unstable weirdo for not only hating it but being strongly against it despite never even reading/seeing it.
Hating a piece of media is fucked up in general when you're talking about actual hatred and not something along the lines of "this is so bad". It is what you call "impotent hatred". Engage in too much of that and you'll mind break yourself.

Also you don't come across like a psychopath at all, you're more of a sociopath if I were able to diagnose people over the Internet (I can't). As a psychopath you wouldn't be seething about this shit online, you'd be hatching a plan on how to get what you want while pretending to be normal. Psychos are chameleons.

>By the way, it's you the one who made a biased assumption about parasocial fans, not me, and you did it in an attempt to discredit my opinion for the reasons stated in the first half of this post of mine.
This is projection, you're literally saying that I'm doing this in order to make women approve of me in the paragraph that precedes this in a vain attempt to discredit my opinion. I have never made any assumptions about parasocial fans, every single post I've made has been about YOU specifically. Not some nebulous group of parasocial fans.

>>48284413
What has it got to do with Gura?

>>48296519
>>48296590
>liking the girl that freed hololive from chinks is le bad
Fuck off chinks. Learn the difference between vtubers.
>>48296498

>>48289874
The only holo who didn't lose their checkmark in the period between them losing it and Elon giving it back to those with a million plus followers was haachama, somehow.

>>48296743
Aka really is a hack. His only writing style is beating you over the head with his shitty "message". He presents no nuance in anything.

>>48284413
I recently came to understand that there are a lot of bullshit things that happen behind the scenes that PREVENT the person from streaming and doing shit even if they want to.
Sometimes it's reasonable, sometimes its not.

>>48291397
Pretty sure it’s half for advertising half to fuck journalists.

>>48296783
Coco's fans have become some of the most hardcore Hololive antis out there. Preeching about Talent Freedom and stuff like that. Fuck off Dragon Cuck.

>zero mention of Coco in my post
>got replied to and called chink
Twittertards really are something else.
>>48296743
Lmao, so glad I listened to /a/ and decided not to read this

>>48296693
>for not only hating it but being strongly against it despite never even reading/seeing it.
I read the first 2 chapters and the message it tries to convey is pretty fucking obvious. I will never endorse garbage that was made to make me feel bad for loving my oshi and getting butthurt if she treats me like shit, the story implies that fans who get butthurt are criminals and should get closed in a psychiatric ward. Don't say it's not true because it's so fucking obvious, no matter how many times you regurgitate your 4 words "you didn't read it", nothing will change this simple fact that anybody with a functioning brain can easily understand.

>YOU specifically
That's because I'm butthurt about my oshi treating me like shit and you assumed that someone who gets butthurt about this is no better than a criminal, again for the same reasons stated in my previous posts and don't say it's not true, if you're an idol fan or at least have an oshi you would understand this.

>>48297069
>first 2 chapters
All I needed to read.
The story pretty quickly changes and turns around to be pro-idol / unicorn, but fags that can't even get past chapter 10 won't know that.

>>48293943
Unless this happened somewhere between the reveal of the father’s hobby and the latest chapter that’s not true. Where did she trick fans and then get called out for that.

>>48297106
Are we looping? >>48294769

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

>>48297237
>Trusting a book by its cover and first few chapters
Damn, zoomers these days.

>>48297043
Classic Aka, lol, he is a hack. The twitter tards eat his shit up though since they enjoy being pandered to.

>>48297388
>pretending to not understand the implications of certain events being shows earlier or later in a story

>>48284413
Her twins? my onaholes.

>>48297106
No it isn’t. Ai was pregnant and the idea was that all fans should love her anyway as seen by the doctor and more importantly she was 16. They become idols and characters liken it to slaves because of the 3 important rules all of which would have kept ai alive. First concert was to show having fans isn’t important if you have someone else you care about. Let’s go to later examples the red head plans to sleep with a director to get a role in his movie paparazzi catches it and the world’s to blame for making people like this. Nothing actually happens because the director decides against it but she’s under 18, he’s in his late 20s and has admitted to doing it with multiple girls for roles. Call me old fashioned but I think girls should be legal when sleeping with guys that are 20 and up. Hate paparazzi but he would have put the guy away and made money rare scenario that he is not in the wrong. So no it’s not pro unicorn and it’s not even pro idol it’s only pro main character.

>>48296907
Themes and what not are not even close to his strong suits. He’s good at character writing and smart observations. He was better in the beginning of kaguya

>>48297043
He's dragged Kaguya-sama for far too long.

>>48289817
I mean, back in the day, I actually told Cover on the feedback form that they needed to shut down the HoloCN branch and that it was better to rip off the bandaid than to keep appeasing people whose main psychological motivation is getting off on making foreigners bend to their will.
I obviously don’t think my comment was the one that tipped the scales, but they did shut down the branch a few weeks later.

>>48298242
he did? I tried Kaguya and couldn't bear how he needs to explain absolutely everything that is happening

>>48284413
how does she not realize how torturous this is for chumbies?

>>48300298
Actual chumbies got a members stream 2 days ago

>>48300374
>blatantly lying
I'm sure she's gonna fuck you so hard! she literally cannot wait for you to show her your dick after seeing how you defended her in this thread. You're literally her favorite white knight.

It was 4 days ago retard kys also she said she was gonna stream 2-3 times this week and the week is over. Kys twice.

>>48300590
Holy shit calm down tranny chama, its an anime girl, how does she make you so mad?

>>48299433
Nah, the narrations are actually the good part, but IshiMiko was executed so badly that even Reddit got pissed by it

>>48301144
It was a retarded Ishigami arc where there's an arbitrary time limit.

>>48284413
is a hint she is working at Idol as yuyu.

>>48301370
Meme?

>>48301144
if those are the good parts then I'm glad I dropped it early

>>48293498
Yeah that's why it's based. Fuck unicorns

As a psychologist I hate people who pretend to know what is a pshyco or another mental I'll.

Fuck you guys

>>48305779
>another mental I'll.
Most competent psychologist lmao

>another week of canceled streams
This is unbearable. Just say you hate your fans like Ina did and give it a rest.

Gura can do what she wants as long as Cover approves. Simple as. No need for these threads anymore.

>every normalfag in the world watching dramashit instead of a real idol show

>>48308650
I doubt you're gonna say the same thing when Cover actually wants to discipline her one day

gura doko...

>>48311319
maternity leave
sorry about that anon, I forgot the condom…

Gura had the most guest appearances in 3D lives for en and among the top in the company. So idol is still fair

You know, what if she did get pregnant at he house party of her own free will?

>>48313000
Picrel.

>>48285026
>The reason for why she doesn't want to stream or actually communicate with her fanbase in any meaningful way doesn't matter at all.
Anon are you not interested to know why Gura keeps going radio silent? I doubt the NDA would allow her to explain but this new normal has been going on for over a year.

>>48296966
if you hate your job, there's always reason to not do it. For as much people say that Gura and Mumei are the same person, they have one huge difference: Mumei has every reason not to stream, but still streams and Gura has every reason to stream, but doesn't.

>>48294383
Congrats, there's 114 more to go

>>48293815
Anon, if you don't understand it's fake then you really have noone to blame, but yourself. Just think of idol worship (as in statues), the statue is just a statue, but it represents an ideal something of higher meaning and that's where the appeal comes from.

>>48293953
Take a hint anon if she's ghosting you, she doesn't want you around, it's time to move on.

Did this anon really self-insert as the stalker or something and get mad about oshi no ko?
They show tons of fans just being normal people and there was only one unicorn like fan that went too far, the same dude killed two character.

>>48294769
If it makes you feel better Kronii liked the parts you hate and disliked the direction
the manga went after that. You'll probably like or feel neutral towards the manga if you continued reading it.

>>48295942
Aqua is his oshi.

>>48296519
Noone even thinks this, why are the chinese like this